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Why is Ukraine again threatened to Donbas war?

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Ukrainian Square rattles in all directions. Invented peremogi make laugh not only Russians, but also Europeans. And the Ukrainians themselves are more and more often asking themselves a simple question: why is it becoming more and more difficult to live every day in a country of constant victories?




Why do they say the famous “the whole world is with us” on TV screens, and the hryvnia “lose weight” every day? And the money that they promise after each meeting Poroshenko or Yatsenyuk with Western colleagues, and do not give?

And all this against the background of the growing authority of Russia. Against the background of real progress in the construction of the state in the Donbas. It is already difficult to hide how the front-line cities of Donbass live. Ukrainians began to compare the front Donetsk with their towns. Compare prices and salaries. And it turned out that the comparison is not in favor of a stub of a former rich country.

The West is coming up with obstacles for the offensive of the “great dream of Ukraine” - a visa-free regime. The widely publicized benefits for Ukrainian producers on European markets turned out to be zilch. There are benefits, but there are no buyers. Europeans do not want to buy Ukrainian goods. I have nowhere to go.

And then there's the full-blown political crisis. Coalition collapse. Mutual douche of former political friends. And this crisis really threatens to “jerk” that chimera, which President Poroshenko proudly calls “the established system of power.”

Against this background, statements of Ukrainian politicians from among the “deputies of top officials” about a revenge in the Donbas and in the Crimea suddenly appear. Military rematch.

The first such statement was voiced by the adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Ivan Varchenko. On the air of one of the Ukrainian channels, he bluntly stated that Ukraine will someday return the territories by military means. Even the script has already been tested. The famous "Croatian version".

"Sooner or later, but Ukraine’s confrontation with the Russian occupier will end in a military operation. I hope that in terms of success, it can be compared with the operation of the Croats in 1995, the liberation of the Croatian territory ..."

Last year, after the next “boilers,” President Poroshenko himself voiced such an idea. Then the whole problem was, in Poroshenko, in bad military equipment and armament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And then this problem was solved. West promised to put the Ukrainians such weaponwhich will ensure victory. And even set. What set, we remember. Scrap metal at the prices of new cars. Therefore, the talk about the "Croatian version" stalled.

The next "little man with a fist" was the vice-speaker of the Ukrainian parliament Oksana Syroid.

“First we must go through liberation, that is, the Ukrainian army and the Ukrainian administration must be brought there. Then de-occupation should be in the broad sense of the word, with the withdrawal of Russian agents and the establishment of border control. And only then can we start preparing for the elections. And only after Amnesty may come of this. But besides amnesty there must also be punishment ... "

To say that Syroid is not aware of the Minsk agreements is impossible. Position does not allow to be "not in the subject." So, the vice speaker voiced the position of the Ukrainian authorities on the implementation of these agreements. It means that the politicians of Ukraine will not only not fulfill what they agreed on, but also make claims now not only to Russia, but also to the West.

Moreover, Syroid even draws a scenario for Ukraine, if the agreement is fulfilled. And this scenario is the destruction of the country.

It is clear that, purely as a woman, Oksana is trying to put pressure on pity for European and American politicians. Even somewhere "play along" to Putin. The President of Russia has repeatedly spoken about the desire of our country to preserve the united Ukraine.

But at the same time, and more is clear. The destruction of Ukraine can, although purely theoretically, prevent the appearance of an external enemy. Whatever Ukrainians may say today, in their souls they love their country, their land. They do not like the government, politicians, parties, movements. But the country is loved. And they will go to protect it from any external enemy.

Is there a chance for a Croatian military operation? Alas, but the Ukrainian "hawks" poorly know even what they are calling for. And all these statements are more like attempts to stay visible. Stay at the imperious trough.

I wonder what will happen to any of today's Ukrainian "chieftain" if he says that the Donbass and the Crimea are lost for Ukraine? It seems to me that such a statement will be the end of a politician. Trample their own colleagues. At the same time, everyone understands the correctness of such a statement.

In order to analyze further the "dreams" of Syroid and Varchenko, I recall some of the nuances of the operation in Croatia. Operation "Storm" was planned in the Pentagon for a long time. To conduct it, the Americans were actively preparing the Croatian army. Instructors and specialists from the best American divisions were sent there. In addition, all communications systems were taken under American intelligence control. Including diplomatic channels. All intelligence information came from the Americans.

But even such efforts did not allow the Croats to advance successfully. The Americans had to go for direct aggression. That American aircraft destroyed the radar in the Serbian Krajina. And all this against the backdrop of enormous pressure on Belgrade.

So, the Crimea. The possibility of a military operation in the Crimea for Ukraine is zero. Any forceful impact will force Russia to strike such a force that parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area will simply be demolished from their positions, or more correctly, they will be completely destroyed. And to involve some parts from the mainland of the country is not even required.

The grouping of the Russian army in this region can independently conduct combat operations with any adversary. Everything's there. From all types of aircraft to quite serious naval forces.

Any sneeze in this direction will be a disintegration catalyst for Ukraine. We do not even need to attack. No one will destroy the Ukrainian cities and villages, the Ukrainian people. Enough army units. And everyone understands this. Even the most warlike of "maydaunov."

Now about the Donbass. First of all, about the morale of the population of this region. For two years, ukrovoyaki so many abominations there are freaked out that today all the people will have to fight with them. We often talk about some not very clear actions of the leaders of the republics. But, states are being built. The people live. And the majority even do not want to hear about joining Ukraine.

Militarily. The superiority of the Ukrainian army today is enormous. Practically, the economy of Ukraine today is working for war. In the republics, however, they are oriented toward building a peaceful life. On life in general. However, the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is such that this army cannot fight. "Hats throw" tried. Boilers remember. Though they are trying to betray defeat for victory.

But most importantly, today is not 1995. And Moscow is not Belgrade. And Putin is not Yeltsin. It is doubtful that Russia will leave the republic without support. And these will no longer be humanitarian convoys. This will be real military assistance. And then in the Ukrainian media will no longer write "separate areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions." There will be a full-fledged region-republic.

It is impossible to talk today about the impossibility of resuming active hostilities. The logic for politicians of Ukraine is a little-known thing. And on emotion it is quite possible to order "start smashing." But I described the results of this order.

To preserve power, Kiev today is very necessary to be "on the front pages of the Western media." Just do not really work. Ukraine brought too many problems to its "friends." And these problems need to be addressed. No one agrees to live worse only to feed some kind of parasite. And Ukraine today turned into such a parasite. The country that lives on handouts and the alms of others.

A hungry parasite goes or steal or rob. And here it will be necessary to show him that this is not worth doing. It hurts.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 1 March 2016 06: 10
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    You can maintain an artificially initially unviable body in this world for a long time, but it is completely pointless! The project - Ukraine - as a state entity is completely incapacitated for historical reasons! The West, and specifically the Anglo-Saxons all the time are trying to create something in these lands to the peak of Russia without understanding the important things that you cannot force a part of the whole to act independently, make the hand be independent of the body! This is a chimera! Therefore, you want someone or not, but the fact remains - Ukraine, this is Russia! Belarus, this is Russia, Kazakhstan, this is Russia, Dagestan, this is Russia, Kamchatka, this is Russia ... The historical, evolutionary laws of the development of ethnic groups and civilizations are as absolute as the laws of physics, only their implementation takes much longer!
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 1 March 2016 06: 33
      +9
      Now about the Donbass.

      The Novorossiya agency spoke with the writer and military expert Konstantin Schemelinin about the likely outcome of the hostilities.
      Militarily. The superiority of the Ukrainian army is enormous today.

      - What are the strengths of the parties?

      - APU - about 100 thousand soldiers, VSN - about 40 thousand soldiers.

      It will be a colossal mistake for Kiev that in the event of a war, the Ukrainian army will not have to confront the VSN army of 200-500 thousand soldiers. Moreover, an equally big mistake for the militia will count on the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to quickly increase their army to 500-1000 thousand soldiers. Truly, the war in Ukraine has not yet begun.
      However, the state of the Armed Forces is such that this army cannot fight.

      Who will win this war?

      - Donetsk. Military calculations say that the total combat power behind Donetsk is about 7 times greater than the total combat power behind Kiev.

      - When can active hostilities resume?

      - With a probability of 90%, it can be predicted that a large war in the Donbass will erupt between May 25 and June 20, 2016. This time is most favorable from the point of view of weather conditions, therefore, until May 15, it is not worth waiting for a big war.

      http://www.novorosinform.org/comments/id/1299
      1. zurbagan63
        zurbagan63 1 March 2016 06: 45
        23
        How boring are these predictors. Every three months they’re vanging and nothing happens. The frame will say: face, and then it starts ...
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 1 March 2016 08: 10
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          Quote: zurbagan63
          How boring are these predictors.

          The author is a little mistaken, here on this topic.
          To maintain power, Kiev today really needs to be "on the front pages of Western media."

          To maintain power, an external enemy is needed, otherwise the government itself will become the enemy, but for now there is an evil and terrible Russian Putin, Gunpowder and his team will successfully rob their country.
          Now about why the enemy is still needed in the person of Russia, and so hastily promoting this program. I think that the calculation is not made on the generation of 40-year-olds, but on those who are over 10 years old, in 5-10 years, with a "successful" scenario in education and propaganda, they will receive dragon teeth, which, not knowing kinship, will throw themselves at everything Russian like chain dogs.
          Something needs to be done with this, and already yesterday. ((((
          1. domokl
            domokl 1 March 2016 08: 49
            +6
            Quote: Sirocco
            To maintain power, you need an external enemy,

            In a normal country, yes. but this is Ukraine. Here at the beginning there was an IMF loan .. Otherwise, there will be nothing to fight with an external enemy .. fellow
            1. Pravdarm
              Pravdarm 1 March 2016 09: 31
              +4
              I think they need to wrap themselves in sheets and crawl quietly to the cemetery!
              Or wrap them!
              I am "FOR" No.-Maidana!
              To these maydaunov generally burst into dust!
              And the sheets would stay clean!
              1. visitork67
                visitork67 1 March 2016 20: 49
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                , let them burrow in place, otherwise the traces of them will stink very much. We don’t need such PCBs, and we don’t need to give out sheets at all, even if only NATO helmets and chevrons remain from the clothes on them.
            2. Sirocco
              Sirocco 1 March 2016 15: 26
              +8
              Quote: domokl
              .. Otherwise, there will be nothing to fight with an external enemy ..

              How not at all? Here is a new part of the Marlezon ballet performed by Ukrainian dancers, I don’t know how to laugh or cry, although they laughed heartily.
              Lhagvasuren Namsrai, press officer of the Mongolian Embassy in Russia, confirmed that reports of Ukraine’s demand for Ulan Bator to pay compensation for the destruction of Kiev by Baty’s troops in the 13th century were not a joke.

              Namsray confirmed the information that the country's parliament received an official letter from the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanding payment of compensation for the destruction of Kiev by the troops of Batu Khan, writes the People’s Correspondent.

              “The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine wrote an official letter to the Great State Khural (parliament of Mongolia) that in the 13th century Khan Baty (grandson of Genghis Khan) organized the genocide of the Ukrainian people. Ukrainians demanded compensation. And everyone wrote about it on Russian sites, Mongolian sites, ”said Namsrai.

              “Then our correspondent asked our chairman of the Great State Khural: was the letter really? And our chairman of the Great State Khural replied that, in general, Kievan Rus was in the history of the Middle Ages, then there was no Ukrainian state. And if the Verkhovna Rada writes all the names of Ukrainian citizens who fell under the genocide, their families, we will be ready to pay, ”the press attaché added.

              Recall that in May 2015, the media reported that the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a resolution “On the genocide of the Ukrainian people in the 13th century by the criminal regime of the Mongol Empire” and sent the Mongolian authorities a demand to pay compensation for the destruction of Kiev. However, some media outlets presented this message as a joke.

              Chairman Khurala Zandaahuugiyn Enkhbold called the resolution of the Ukrainian parliament “the propaganda cliché of Ukraine regarding Mongolia.” “The world did not know and never heard of any Ukrainian nation, especially in the era of the heirs of the Great Temujin,” he noted. “Millions of dead Ukrainians in the 13th century are the fruit of the unhealthy imagination of Ukrainian deputies.”

              Enkhbold added that “Mongolia is ready to compensate for the loss of Kiev by Batu Khan, but only to the victims, or to their families.” “We look forward to the announcement of the full list of victims,” said the chairman of Khural.

              Source: http://rusnext.ru/news/1456829819
          2. VB
            VB 1 March 2016 15: 21
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            The participation of Russia in a civil war on the outskirts implies an extreme cruelty towards the vanquished. There is no other way, where to put them? Remember the year 1920. Are we ready for this?
        2. domokl
          domokl 1 March 2016 08: 47
          +3
          Quote: zurbagan63
          The frame will say: face, and then it starts ...

          laughing Those. The brain is not needed at all. It is enough that this abamka and other "upper" ones have it .. Well, also a position ..
      2. baudolino
        baudolino 1 March 2016 07: 52
        +9
        In autumn, Obama ends the deadline, and this is now the most important date. Kiev elites are in limbo, waiting for the wind to blow.
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS 1 March 2016 09: 38
          0
          Quote: baudolino
          In autumn, Obama ends the deadline, and this is now the most important date.

          US foreign policy will not change.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 1 March 2016 12: 59
            0
            US foreign policy will not change. ,,
            Sashka’s policy never changes, but the question is, what will be profitable for them tomorrow?
        3. andj61
          andj61 1 March 2016 11: 21
          0
          Quote: baudolino
          In autumn, Obama ends the deadline, and this is now the most important date. Kiev elites are in limbo, waiting for the wind to blow.

          In the fall, only elections will be in the USA. And Obama’s deadline only ends on January 20 of next year ...
      3. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 1 March 2016 08: 04
        +4
        You counted 500 thousand here, a million ..? Are you in your mind ..? Sorry ... They mobilize 40 thousand mobilized, can not. People rot, literally rot. In the trenches. This army has grown, is not capable of moving ...
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 1 March 2016 08: 51
          +3
          Quote: Observer 33
          They are 40 thousand mobilized to dress, can not.

          but why put on what he came to the military enlistment office - in that he went to war ...
        2. lysyj bob
          lysyj bob 1 March 2016 09: 37
          +7
          Quote: Observer 33
          They mobilize 40 thousand mobilized, can not


          Dressing cannon fodder is not the goal for the western curators of this ridiculous project. The entire territory of the outskirts and all resources have long been divided by the owners of American money. There are two problems. The first is the population of these territories. Second, they are Russians. They do not want to fight the Russians, because the Russians will eventually come to their homes. It remains only to divide the Russians and play them against each other. Let the "Russians cut the Russians." The more Russians are killed, the better for the Anglo-Saxon reptilians. And for this you do not need to dress and feed, it is enough to brainwash and arm. It is quite possible to call a million to the Armed Forces, but how they will fight is not important. It is important that land with the most fertile soil and other resources be freed from the population, which can then be seized.
          1. with
            with 1 March 2016 09: 47
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            It turns out that it is better to defend against the Anglo-Saxons. Go on the counterattack. And if the Kremlin’s propaganda for the rich Ukrainians is believed to be bad, then Belarusians should be involved. Lukashenko trusts the people there more than Poroshenko. It is necessary to withdraw Ukrainians (the same R1a) from power Strangers.
          2. kotvov
            kotvov 1 March 2016 13: 02
            +2
            Calling a million in the Armed Forces is quite real, but how they will fight is not important. ,,
            that’s what you think. They understand that this weapon can and will turn in the other direction. A hundred thousand is easier to control, although they can’t cope with it very much.
          3. Cap.Morgan
            Cap.Morgan 1 March 2016 19: 59
            0
            They won’t scratch a million.
            Run away.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 March 2016 10: 10
          +1
          In this, the so-called army of Ukraine, there are already more than half drunks and drug addicts, and the rest of the rabble are scumbags and urks.
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 March 2016 05: 20
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            Quote: Vadim237
            already more than half drunks and drug addicts, and the remaining rabble - scumbags and urki.

            And you can’t argue ... The army in a period of stability should do something .. And sitting on the front and Matyuki towards the enemy will definitely lead to herring vodka ...
      4. Evgeny RS
        Evgeny RS 1 March 2016 09: 08
        +1
        What APU will equip 1 million soldiers?
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      6. RUSS
        RUSS 1 March 2016 09: 37
        +1
        Khokhlam desperately needs external aggression, so it is unlikely that the scenario of destabilization, provocation and aggression against the Crimea is incredible? Yes, it is possible, but from those who are now in Kiev you can expect what is pleasing. Recall the Foklands, who in Britain expected this from a civilized Argentina, but this was already in recent history.
      7. Baloo
        Baloo 1 March 2016 20: 54
        +1
        Kiev Liquidation Commission for Ukraine is going to settle at its own expense "Syrian" refugees fool . Where can the poor go in a poor country with a crumbling economy and growing unemployment? belay How much time does it take for Canadian and American instructors to prepare another batch of smoked cannon fat from "Syrian" refugees to be sent to the ATO zone am . Summer will be hot.
        Good luck in the battles of Donbass. drinks
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      9. Serg81
        Serg81 2 March 2016 10: 33
        +3
        Moreover, an equally big mistake for the militia will count on the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to quickly increase their army to 500-1000 thousand soldiers. Truly, the war in Ukraine has not yet begun. what 1mil. a man, an army is not only people, but armaments, if now around 250 thousand in Ukraine throughout Ukraine people and they cannot be properly armed and trained, then it can be said that Ukraine will be able to mobilize about 1 mil. man is stupid. In 2014, the patriotic upsurge was the largest in Ukraine over the past 25 years, and then 6 waves of mobilization to all power structures had to be carried out. If the war is limited to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, then, as in 2014, people like cockroaches will flee Ukraine from mobilization.
    2. DIMA45R
      DIMA45R 1 March 2016 06: 48
      +2
      The project - Ukraine - as a state entity is completely incompetent for historical reasons!
      Not quite so, in its current form, it is a rotting rotting body. But as an ally of a strong Russia, it will live quite successfully. The reason for the reversal of Ukraine is the democratic grandmothers of the USA (according to plan, for the purpose ...) + a weak Russia for a whole generation, with the same democratic grandmothers of the USA to destroy everything and everything ...
    3. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 1 March 2016 07: 37
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      You can maintain an artificially initially unviable body in this world for a long time, but it is completely pointless! The project - Ukraine - as a state entity is completely incapacitated for historical reasons! The West, and specifically the Anglo-Saxons all the time are trying to create something in these lands to the peak of Russia without understanding the important things that you cannot force a part of the whole to act independently, make the hand be independent of the body! This is a chimera! Therefore, you want someone or not, but the fact remains - Ukraine, this is Russia! Belarus, this is Russia, Kazakhstan, this is Russia, Dagestan, this is Russia, Kamchatka, this is Russia ... The historical, evolutionary laws of the development of ethnic groups and civilizations are as absolute as the laws of physics, only their implementation takes much longer!

      These perverts in Kiev still had to be replaced yesterday, so much dirt was poured so much blood from the banderlogs in our direction, I am sure our special services are preparing good days for these villains, I think people have matured in Ukraine, you just need help!
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 1 March 2016 08: 05
        10
        A hungry parasite goes or steal or rob. And here it will be necessary to show him that this is not worth doing. It hurts.
        Need to work. He cannot - teach, does not want to - force. Well, as a last resort - the last resort - to his land. At least some good .... ???
        1. domokl
          domokl 1 March 2016 08: 52
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          Quote: Dembel 77
          Need to work

          It is necessary ... And where? Factories close, in all areas reduction. Similarly, we can say the inhabitants of our single-industry towns. Get ready and go somewhere to work ... Only where and who needs them?
          Russia consists not only of Moscow ... On the periphery with the job now ass
          1. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 1 March 2016 10: 46
            +1
            ..... Russia consists not only of Moscow ...

            ... That's right !!! .... good

            ... On the periphery with the job is now an ass ...

            .... This is putting it mildly .... angry
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            2. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 1 March 2016 16: 41
              -5
              Quote: aleks 62 next
              ..... Russia consists not only of Moscow ...

              ... That's right !!! .... good

              ... On the periphery with the job is now an ass ...

              .... This is putting it mildly .... angry

              Every 10 from Russia now either lives or works in Moscow.
            3. Rustic i ......
              Rustic i ...... 3 March 2016 12: 56
              0
              "... On the periphery with work now ass ...
              .... That's putting it mildly .... angry "
              Well, where did this information come from? Why write something about which we do not have complete information? Yes, indeed, a person who does not have work skills and does not have a specialty may experience difficulties with finding a job, but in the end you can try yourself in low-skilled jobs. If the applicant has work, the desire to work only as the director of the enterprise, and no less, then these are the problems of the applicant, and not the state.
              1. Cro-Magnon
                Cro-Magnon 3 March 2016 16: 35
                +1
                Exaggerate about the directors do not! But if you are a narrow qualified specialist, you were losing your job, then after a low-paid and low-skilled job you will not be able to find a job in the same specialty ... You will not be able to do this with the personnel psychology of the employer!
    4. SANAY
      SANAY 1 March 2016 08: 57
      +3
      Ukrainians are worried that they are not shown on TV in Europe and are not given money. Yeah, brother! Sucks them, they can decide on stupidity. Not the stupidity that they were doing and are doing, but the real stupidity, if you jerk at Russia.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 1 March 2016 09: 12
        11
        Ukraine today has turned into just such a parasite. A country that lives on the handouts and alms of others.

        What is true is true:
    5. VeterS
      VeterS 1 March 2016 09: 30
      29
      It is a tragic illusion to consider Ukraine a part of Russia, and Ukrainians ... well, almost Russian. The real results of such an error we observe today, but they were also yesterday, as we tried not to notice them, swimming in the illusory perception of non-Russia! I have more than 40 years of service in the KSF and I have gone from a miner, commander of the BS-3 to a submarine commander. All my experience says that the Ukrainian in essence, as well as complexity, is a BOP. (A naval joke, a crest before lunch thinks what to crap ** from the ship, and after lunch how to get it out).
      Poroshenko, Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and ... other, other other ... their *** bed, they are not from Mars, they are from the USSR! FROM THE USSR !!! And this is an indisputable fact. The conclusion is unequivocal, Russia has an extremely dangerous and unpredictable enemy on its Western (and only Western?) Border. And it is very dangerous, but in fact - it is criminal to consider Ukraine, like most of its population, as lost sheep. The ENEMY hits in the back. And the enemy, as you know - DESTROY! (Provided, of course, if your home is dear to you, and not the smelly green loot) ...
      1. Wind_zl
        Wind_zl 1 March 2016 09: 40
        +4
        Harsh but fair. I confirm!
      2. oldzek
        oldzek 1 March 2016 10: 02
        +3
        you're lying. there are no nations bad and good. there are people dermo. I served in a multinational regiment and had the opportunity to observe and compare.
      3. gross kaput
        gross kaput 1 March 2016 13: 07
        +2
        Quote: VeterS
        I have over 40 years of service at the KSF and the path from a miner,

        And unfortunately he didn’t make his mind, or was he just a provocateur? It is almost impossible for Russia to find a "purely Russian" interpenetration for many centuries is so extensive that in fact one nation lives on the territory of the European part of the former USSR, I was born and raised in Moscow, my father is Ukrainian, my mother is Russian with 1/8 of Tatar blood, my wife is half a Kuban Cossack woman, also with an admixture of Tatar blood, but nevertheless my son is RUSSIAN. And for stupid provocateurs, I’ll explain my father worked at a military plant as the head of the shop and for all the time he did not steal a nut, he fought with the head of the plant who, despite the fact that by name and place of birth, the "Russian" steal mercilessly for what in the end and sat down.
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 1 March 2016 20: 03
          0
          From Russia, a dozen such Ukraine can be cut.
          And in each, with the appropriate processing, there are "Ukrainians".
        2. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 02
          0
          I will subscribe to EVERY word !!!
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    7. siberalt
      siberalt 1 March 2016 09: 35
      0
      Yeah. That’s why at yesterday’s "quickie on Budy" they strongly worried that sanctions could be lifted from Russia in the summer. It seems that they began to understand that there is no alternative to "Minsk-2" and something urgently needs to be done, because all responsibility for Donbass will fall on Ukraine. They would like Russia to give them money to rebuild destroyed cities and return the LDNR to them on a silver platter laughing
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      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 1 March 2016 09: 52
        13
        Newswick proclaimed the good news ...laughing

        Rejoice svidomye, "God" is back! laughing
    8. VB
      VB 1 March 2016 15: 14
      +5
      You are absolutely right in everything. Just projects called Ukraine and Belarus are already initially anti-Russian. Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and goes on about the local kings, for the sake of their well-being, trying to divide one people. Under the kings, there was only a designation of the geographical territory and the owner of the passport: Little Russia, White Ross, Great Russia. Everything else is from the evil one.
    9. atalef
      atalef 2 March 2016 10: 52
      -3
      Quote: Finches
      You can maintain an artificially initially unviable body in this world for a long time, but it is completely pointless! The project - Ukraine - as a state entity is completely incompetent for historical reasons!

      You can say anything you like about legal capacity or not.
      Well, suppose - it is not capable 9 although it is clear that this is exclusively your opinion), what next?
      An alternative?
      It is not the state of Ukraine that will not fall apart, no one is interested in this, and first of all Russia. maybe with a sort of collapse, Russia will have to sort of attach these parts to itself - not only will this be perceived far from unequivocally, but Russia itself will not pull it

      Quote: Finches
      The West, and specifically the Anglo-Saxons, all the time try to create something in these lands to the peak of Russia without understanding the important things, that you cannot force a part of a whole to act independently, just as you cannot force a hand to be independent of the body!

      Do you continue to be sure that Ukraine is part of Russia?
      Quote: Finches
      ! Therefore, you want someone or not, but the fact remains - Ukraine, this is Russia! Belarus, this is Russia,

      You can call it what you want - in reality it is not.
      Quote: Finches
      , the evolutionary laws of the development of ethnic groups and civilizations are as absolute as the laws of physics,

      Well, as with Bgoslavia, the Turkish Empire, Austria-Hungary, Czechoslovakia, the Mughal Empire, you can list and list.
      Countries are fragmented. there are new unions, etc., etc.
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    11. user
      user 2 March 2016 11: 50
      0
      You can maintain an artificially initially unviable body in this world for a long time, but it is completely pointless!


      It is not meaningful until the two main resources, the pipe and the earth, are sold. That's when they will have new owners and then Ukraine will not become a state within its current borders.
  2. izya top
    izya top 1 March 2016 06: 14
    10
    Why is Ukraine again threatened to Donbas war?
    there’s nothing to eat. don’t explain it with the stupidity of the rabbit and debilism of piglets. and so everything is clear-Donbass and Putin are to blame request
    1. The black
      The black 1 March 2016 06: 27
      +3
      Correctly. To maintain power, Kiev today really needs to be "on the front pages of the Western media." Just do not really get it. Ukraine brought too many problems to its “friends”. And these problems must be solved. No one agrees to live worse just to feed some kind of parasite. And today Ukraine has turned into just such a parasite. A country that lives on the handouts and alms of others. A hungry parasite will either steal or rob. And here it will be necessary to show him that this is not worth it. It hurts.
    2. atalef
      atalef 2 March 2016 10: 53
      0
      Quote: iza top
      Why is Ukraine again threatened to Donbas war?
      there’s nothing to eat. don’t explain it with the stupidity of the rabbit and debilism of piglets. and so everything is clear-Donbass and Putin are to blame request

      Yes, because Ukraine absolutely does not need to return the Donbass.
      She needs conflict and spending on Russia's shoulders. That's all.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 March 2016 06: 17
    +1
    You have to pay for victories. And the louder you shout "Victory!", The more you pay. Loud that would not growl in the stomach.
  4. Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 1 March 2016 06: 18
    +7
    Oksana Syroid became the vice speaker of the Ukrainian parliament. Everything fell into place. There are no people or even humanoids in power. There are SYROIDS !!!
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto 1 March 2016 06: 21
    +5
    "This is an excellent neighbor for Russia. Now you can work further." ©
  6. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 1 March 2016 06: 23
    0
    I think, against the background of the already inevitable continuation of the sanctions, Russia, in the event of an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, should openly declare the Minsk Agreement to be broken by Kiev and the genocide of the Russian population of Donbass, and openly provide assistance with all necessary supplies and military advisers, as well as urgently release on vacation all the Buryat horse marines.
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 1 March 2016 09: 11
      +1
      It will be so. There is no doubt about that.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 March 2016 06: 24
    +3
    But the bitch’s offspring, a little bit from Rashen’s, has nothing left - either to fight, or they will tear their own to pieces. So he is spinning a snake! fellow
  8. forester
    forester 1 March 2016 06: 27
    10
    Ukraine has not turned into a parasite today - by and large, it has always been just that for them and explains the inclusion of the Crimea and a number of industrialized regions of the RSFSR in the USSR
    1. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 1 March 2016 07: 39
      +1
      I remember even in the first year at the school I was surprised to hear from fellow Ukrainians: Ukraine feeds all of Russia! And then I did not know what to answer.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 1 March 2016 08: 58
        +6
        Quote: armored optimist
        I remember even in the first year at the school I was surprised to hear from fellow Ukrainians: Ukraine feeds all of Russia! And then I did not know what to answer.

        then I remember how, as a child, every year we went to relatives in Ukraine and every time they brought them money, bought animals at fairs, and now you can talk about everything with the exception of politics and the Crimea and the war, then you immediately become an invader , padded jacket and colorado.
        And a cousin directly said thanks to you for everything that you have done for us, but don’t come to us anymore - we’ll kill you.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 1 March 2016 10: 13
          +5
          but don’t come to us anymore - we’ll kill you.

          I would continue this topic. Who else has the same kindred greetings?
        2. Armored optimist
          Armored optimist 1 March 2016 11: 29
          0
          Alas, then our political workers did not raise this topic. As it was not customary to talk about what and how much has been done for the Union republics. They did not fight this creeping nationalism at that time.
      2. Old
        Old 1 March 2016 10: 59
        +1
        for sure. Similarly) But the Ukrainian SSR produced a lot of food. Lived well. We argued before the fight then. There were still children.
    2. atalef
      atalef 2 March 2016 10: 55
      -2
      Quote: forester
      Ukraine has not turned into a parasite today - by and large, it has always been just that for them and explains the inclusion of the Crimea and a number of industrialized regions of the RSFSR in the USSR

      Ukraine was not a parasite, and your mention of the Crimea (as it seems about the region as a donor is generally ridiculous).
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 1 March 2016 06: 29
    +4
    Why is Ukraine again threatened to Donbas war?... Yes, because ..the money runs out, the government, the volunteers, the warriors, and the new war has new money .. possible loans, donations, robbery ..
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 March 2016 06: 47
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      Yes, because .. money runs out, with the government, with volunteers, with warriors,

      No, no and NO! The reason is that someone has too much!
      The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported excessive nutrition of military personnel
      http://sputnikbig.ru/ukraina/item/8004-minoborony-ukrainy-soobshchilo-ob-izlishn
      em-pitanii-voennosluzhashchikh
      1. tank64rus
        tank64rus 3 March 2016 19: 09
        0
        Gentlemen snickered at our prison camp as much as 70 kg. Rotenfuhrer on the scales of the next ten.
      2. tank64rus
        tank64rus 3 March 2016 19: 09
        0
        Gentlemen snickered at our prison camp as much as 70 kg. Rotenfuhrer on the scales of the next ten.
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 1 March 2016 06: 38
    +3
    What Ukraine did brilliantly succeeded in is to become a zone of instability and military conflict, giving its territory for the realization of US geopolitical interests. In this respect, the country is truly unique. Without any external aggression, without declaring war on anyone, he is engaged in the destruction of his own citizens.
  11. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 1 March 2016 06: 44
    +2
    First you need to notify Russia that we will have to accept at least hundreds of thousands of refugees, and many thousands who deserted from the battlefield. And those who remain in the high school in the event of hostilities will no longer be able to escape - the dead can not run
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 1 March 2016 06: 45
    +1
    But most importantly, today is not 1995. And Moscow is not Belgrade. But Putin is not Yeltsin.


    There is another option ...
    What if POROSHENKO at the official level asks for a NATO country such as the one provided by RUSSIA ASADU.
    Then what to do?
    what to do if a NATO country starts to bomb DONBASS and dill, using aviation support, dare to rush into an attack on militias.
    1. aba
      aba 1 March 2016 07: 33
      +9
      what to do if a NATO country starts bombing Donbass

      Do you really believe that ?!
      I think there are no such crazy people.
    2. domokl
      domokl 1 March 2016 08: 55
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      what to do if you bomb

      This is the beginning of the third world war ..
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 1 March 2016 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      What if POROSHENKO at the official level asks for a NATO country such as the one provided by RUSSIA ASADU.

      even such scumbags like Poles with Romanians will not climb, because it will no longer be a local conflict ...
    4. Conrad
      Conrad 1 March 2016 10: 04
      +2
      But such a question for you: but against which enemy
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      POROSHENKO at the official level will ask any NATO country for support, such as the one provided by RUSSIA ASADU.

      Assad asked for support against an internationally recognized terrorist organization. And what is such an internationally recognized UN adversary that Poroshenko @ ko is fighting?
      And Poroshenko is considered the official representative of Ukraine only with the help of Russia! This is what you probably shouldn't have done!
    5. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 1 March 2016 11: 40
      +1
      You are joking. All of a sudden, coalition planes will start falling, shot down by "beeches" that have come from nowhere.
      There is no war with the barmel men, read the technologically developed country behind Donbas.
    6. Serhio
      Serhio 1 March 2016 23: 02
      0
      In this case, the Donbass may ask for help from Russia.
  13. Mitrich76
    Mitrich76 1 March 2016 06: 51
    +3
    For the Ukrainian government, war is only an opportunity to remain in power. The peaceful construction of the state did not work, and they did not particularly try. Tried to sell more expensive.
    It almost happened - they used them as best they could, but now they just don’t want to pay.
    It's too late to create something. All that remains is to inflate military hysteria and again get involved in hostilities. Then they will again "fight with the Russians", for this they will try to beg for something. And, at the same time, to postpone their own overthrow.
  14. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 1 March 2016 06: 58
    +2
    And Ukrainians themselves more and more often ask themselves a simple question - why in a country of constant victories it becomes more and more difficult to live every day.
    Yes, if you thought. It’s easier for them to blame a neighbor for all their troubles. Just psychological infantilism.
  15. Reader
    Reader 1 March 2016 06: 58
    0
    There is nothing left .. only the war, but the war will not help Kiev and VSU. It will not be victorious for Kiev and the university, or rather .. victorious for VSN.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 March 2016 07: 01
    +2
    Why is Ukraine again threatened to Donbas war?

    And what remains to do Kiev ?. In Ukraine, everything is bursting at the seams, not a single obligation has been fulfilled, corruption, already terry nationalism, huge dissatisfaction. Here, according to a proven methodology, only war is needed. And, in my opinion, Kiev will already be victorious anyway or end in the final defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The main thing is to start, and there, how the curve will output.
  17. VP
    VP 1 March 2016 07: 03
    10
    However, the state of the Armed Forces is such that this army cannot fight.

    And why such a conclusion?
    No shells or fuel?
    So there it is.
    Shaved in the APU do not know how to trigger? Why so complicated?
    Are they drinking? And because of this, they are not standing on their feet and will not be able to go on the attack?
    They will not be able to create 3-4 times advantages of forces and means in any areas of the breakthrough?
    I don’t understand why everyone is purple about the fact that Svidomye methodically pump up their forces around Donbass, why in response to this they casually throw “they cannot”.
    Donbass is not a huge continent - if you concentrate twenty thousand in some place and strike in a vulnerable place, supporting it with a simultaneous blow in another place of the front, then there may be problems even if Kiev throws those avatars that stand there. And there are not only avatars there, there are ordinary warriors who have been holding automatic weapons in their hands for several months.
    They cannot bear New Russia, of course. But to greatly complicate the situation is quite.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 1 March 2016 08: 00
      0
      Quote: VP
      However, the state of the Armed Forces is such that this army cannot fight.

      And why such a conclusion?
      There are no shells or fuel ....
      .... And there are not only avatars, nevertheless, there are ordinary warriors who have been holding automatic weapons in their hands for several months.
      They cannot bear New Russia, of course. But to greatly complicate the situation is quite.

      But this will be the last complication in the Donbass.
      After that, there will be no one to complicate.
      The bombing of the barmalei in Syria completely showed the capabilities of our army and, most importantly, the decisiveness of the use despite the howling of the West. Once a ride in Syria, then a ride in the Donbass. The precedent is created.
      1. VP
        VP 1 March 2016 08: 22
        +3
        And what does the possibility of our army and Syria in general?
        In Syria, we are invited by a legitimate government and no one can reproach us with this at all.
        Do you propose that Russia openly use the power of the entire army against a neighboring state or what?
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 1 March 2016 09: 26
          0
          According to this precedent, the junta can request help from the Turks in the fight against "terrorists". We are bombing Turkomans, what prevents the Turks from bombing Donbass, based on this precedent ???
        2. Conrad
          Conrad 1 March 2016 10: 31
          0
          Quote: VP
          In Syria, we are invited by a legitimate government and no one can reproach us with this at all.

          We offer not to wait much and when the state becomes unlawful (which, however, has already happened once)
          Quote: VP
          openly use the power of the whole army against

          The government of national traitors and accomplices of external invaders illegally came to power in the person of the SBU, the so-called National Guard and traitors to the motherland in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!
          Thus, help the people of Ukraine get rid of the occupation regime of most of the country!
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 1 March 2016 13: 23
            +3
            Quote: Conrad
            The government of national traitors and accomplices of external invaders illegally came to power in the person of the SBU, the so-called National Guard and traitors to the motherland in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!
            Then the truth was the election and the elected government, in the person of Poroshenko, recognized the whole world, including Russia. So earlier it was necessary to use this when the legitimate president Yanukovych was with us, but now he’s not going to give a ride
          2. aleks700
            aleks700 1 March 2016 20: 50
            0
            The government of national traitors and accomplices of external invaders illegally came to power in the person of the Security Service of Ukraine, the so-called National Guard and traitors in the Armed Forces
            I remind you. Russian President One of the First to Recognize Parashenko as Legal President
          3. aleks700
            aleks700 1 March 2016 20: 50
            0
            The government of national traitors and accomplices of external invaders illegally came to power in the person of the Security Service of Ukraine, the so-called National Guard and traitors in the Armed Forces
            I remind you. Russian President One of the First to Recognize Parashenko as Legal President
    2. Conrad
      Conrad 1 March 2016 10: 22
      +5
      Quote: VP
      However, the state of the Armed Forces is such that this army cannot fight.
      And why such a conclusion?
      No shells or fuel?
      So there it is.
      Shaved in the APU do not know how to trigger? Why so complicated?
      Are they drinking? And because of this, they are not standing on their feet and will not be able to go on the attack?
      They will not be able to create 3-4 times advantages of forces and means in any areas of the breakthrough?

      I want to believe that you really do not understand why such a conclusion. I’ll try to explain for you. If that does not judge strictly.
      The army is not a technique and its quantity, it is not a crowd of people dressed at the very least in some kind of uniform with some kind of weapon. The army is, first of all, an organization. And it does not win the victory by concentrating any masses of people and technology anywhere! And the correct introduction into battle, correctly trained and in the right place at the right time, combat units. At the same time, the subunit must be supported by all types of combat and logistical support. All this is very difficult to calculate (the level and volume of calculations is comparable to the design of an aircraft). Moreover, it must be coordinated with a bunch of organizations. (At the same time, we all see the level of executive discipline in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and related organizations!) The HQ is engaged in all this! And the headquarters are gray, inconspicuous officers with an intellect comparable to that of Lomonosov (at least in one weight category). This is a huge strain in Ukraine. And seeing what is happening there now, I strongly doubt that such a category can appear there in the foreseeable future! And without the headquarters: "... twenty thousand in some place ..." these are 20 targets with the possibility of passive resistance!
      1. VP
        VP 1 March 2016 11: 22
        +3
        If you have a battalion and the enemy has a platoon, then you will take out the enemy, regardless of what the headquarters is and how many Lomonosovs are in it.
        Moreover, I doubt that in Lao PDR everything is so very brilliant both with discipline and with the level of management and staff culture. And the level of training of the fighters does not differ beyond the clouds, under Debaltseve the loss ratio was by no means tenfold.
        Do not throw caps at the enemy, for two years there too someone could learn something, there are not Arabs fighting.
        1. DimerVladimer
          DimerVladimer 1 March 2016 12: 26
          +5
          Quote: VP
          If you have a battalion and the enemy has a platoon, then you will take out the enemy, regardless of what the headquarters is and how many Lomonosovs are in it.

          I remember that 90 Pskov paratroopers held back 10 times superior fighters - disavowing your statement.

          And then military art - this is somewhat different than just calculating the ratio - there is technical equipment (without which there is nowhere), the possession of these weapons, combat coordination, and most importantly - the motivation on which combat stability depends. The Ukrainian army is not very good with combat stability. The guys from Donbass are motivated to the full - and they proved that the platoon can stand against the battalion.
          And if the fixed platoon is strengthened with 5-6 company machine guns, a mortar battery, and to hell with it, pick it up from a position with a competent commander ...
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 1 March 2016 13: 29
            -2
            Quote: DimerVladimer
            I remember that 90 Pskov paratroopers held back 10 times superior fighters - disavowing your statement.
            What was it that disavowed there? -Height was taken, and the company died
            Quote: DimerVladimer
            The guys from Donbass are motivated to the full - and they proved that the platoon can stand against the battalion.
            After Minsk, motivation fell strongly, many volunteers from Russia returned. The outcome of the clash of the LDNR army, with the superior forces of the ukrovermacht, in the current realities, is absolutely not clear.
        2. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 08
          0
          What are you? !! It's true ? Then remember the Pskov paratroopers !!!
      2. Avtopilot
        Avtopilot 1 March 2016 14: 56
        -6
        This is a huge strain in Ukraine.

        Straight strained, and at LDNR, as if, an excess of mind and intelligence?
    3. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 1 March 2016 11: 55
      +2
      Only you forget that 20 thousand attackers can be delayed / suppressed by superiority in artillery and its competent use (as in Debaltseve).
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 1 March 2016 13: 32
        0
        What 20 thousand ?! Near Debaltseve, in fact, the militia attacked, and the ukrovermacht defended in the amount of 4-5 thousand
        1. DimerVladimer
          DimerVladimer 1 March 2016 14: 25
          -1
          What are the "militias"
          I meant that the BTGs, in a smaller number, attacked the superior enemy and, with overwhelming artillery fire, took Debaltseve. And that in the news "shone" militias - so it should be.

          Of course, I'm sorry for the civilians, a couple more cities taken in this way and the population would definitely not "welcome the liberators" ...
          Unfortunately, in addition to assault, siege and destruction - military science does not provide for other methods of seizing cities. In any case, the local population suffers. Therefore, after the shelling of Mariupol, everything fell - you don’t need captured Mariupol with huge civilian casualties - you can set the whole population against yourself.
        2. Avtopilot
          Avtopilot 1 March 2016 14: 59
          -8
          actually militias attacked


          in general, it’s not only militias, tank units on the side of the BCH guess where they came from


          And that in the news "shone" militias - so it should be.


          a relative reported, then militiamen were buried both in their town and in the surrounding villages, after Debaltseve.
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 1 March 2016 21: 54
            +4
            Quote: Avtopilot
            tank units on the side of the BCH


            But aren't they drilled on polar bears? laughing Svidomo is a diagnosis! fool
            1. Avtopilot
              Avtopilot 1 March 2016 22: 04
              -3
              exactly, vacationers on their tanks on vacation)))
              1. andj61
                andj61 1 March 2016 22: 30
                0
                Quote: Avtopilot
                exactly, vacationers on their tanks on vacation)))

                Do Ukronegras come out of hibernation? wink
          2. n.kolesnichenko
            n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 14
            +1
            And you listen CAREFULLY Poroshenko’s speech at this time - you will understand who was advancing !!!
    4. Cleric
      Cleric 1 March 2016 16: 26
      +1
      High concentration of troops in a limited area is dangerous. It is covered by MLRS and artillery
  18. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry 1 March 2016 07: 05
    +2
    Yes, they are just clowns. Already 2 years.
    1. Scout
      Scout 3 March 2016 12: 19
      0
      notice evil clowns
  19. hohkn
    hohkn 1 March 2016 07: 09
    +2
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    what to do if a NATO country starts to bomb DONBASS and dill, using aviation support, dare to rush into an attack on militias.

    I think there will be enough air defense systems of the old models in the reserve warehouses ...
  20. samarin1969
    samarin1969 1 March 2016 07: 14
    +3
    I do not remember that Ukraine ceased to threaten the Donbass and Crimea ... Politicians of Ukraine speak back to what they plan.
    The population of the wreckage of "Square" was assured that the armament of the Russian Federation was rubbish: as soon as some "chips" were turned off at the command of the United States, then all the SU-35s would fall to the ground ... ...

    In assessing the prospects. agree with zurbagan63"Obamka will say: face, and then it will begin ..."
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 1 March 2016 07: 54
      0
      Quote: samarin1969


      In assessing the prospects. agree with zurbagan63"Obamka will say: face, and then it will begin ..."

      In a few months, Obama will go into oblivion. He does not need a failed adventure in Ukraine.
      There are enough of their donkeys. Some end the conversation with the saying "Glory to Ukraine". Like Heil!
      Here they say what we are. Brave to horror.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 1 March 2016 09: 27
        0
        Republikans have long been calling for the open supply of weapons to the ukrovermacht, so it’s still unknown what will happen after Obama
  21. Saffron
    Saffron 1 March 2016 07: 23
    0
    Everything is simple and logical, Ukraine is so predictable that every next imbalance in the political sphere or economy is followed by a distracting maneuver such as aggravation in the Donbass or blockade actions with hoo-patriotic throws
  22. pts-m
    pts-m 1 March 2016 07: 58
    +6
    Ruin, like that drunk. Having gotten into the bite of a worthy fighter, he mooed lying in the mud, which still figured out his opponent. The Germans would have let such an enemy long ago. And the Slavic soul of Russia still extends a hand to them in the form of forgiveness of loans and many more things. And this is against the background of a deterioration in the existence of the common population of Russia.
  23. brisk
    brisk 1 March 2016 07: 59
    -17 qualifying.
    The article is cheap propaganda designed for fools. Bad in Ukraine, and hryvnia cheaper? And in the Russian Federation, what, already at full speed, is the rise of the welfare of the people and a strong national currency? For a long time 84 rubles were equal to 1 dollar? For a long time, for a long time ... So long ago, that already on January 21, 2016 this year was this unpleasant event. And now all that has already sunk into oblivion ... Well, how about it, how can it be ... Today is March 1, already forty days ... This date, it should be noted, is remembered ... laughing You can, of course, talk about the stub of Ukraine, but more likely comparisons with the stub of New Russia pass. Not even with a stub of New Russia, but with a stub of Donbass in the form of the people's republics of the DPR-LPR.
    1. VP
      VP 1 March 2016 08: 43
      +5
      We eat the last hedgehogs under glass, og
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 1 March 2016 13: 15
      +2
      The article is cheap propaganda designed for d.a.kov ,,
      thank you for enlightening us. where are we without your bright and enlightened thoughts. don’t forget, come in, teach us crazy.
      1. brisk
        brisk 1 March 2016 17: 17
        -2
        Quote: kotvov
        kotvov (1) Today, 13:15 ↑
        The article is cheap propaganda designed for d.a.kov ,,
        thank you for enlightening us. where are we without your bright and enlightened thoughts. don’t forget, come in, teach us crazy.


        Thank. I appreciate your bright and subtle humor! smile
        1. visitork67
          visitork67 1 March 2016 21: 17
          +3
          Flags and underpants often change, and you will be saved. Carefully follow the course, but do not forget to look back, it is not yet known where it will fly from.
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            1. n.kolesnichenko
              n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 28
              +2
              Have you changed the diapers already? Or do you like to walk in the black-and-white?
              1. brisk
                brisk 2 March 2016 18: 03
                -2
                Quote: n.kolesnichenko
                n.kolesnichenko Yesterday, 23:28 ↑
                Have you changed the diapers yet? Or do you like to walk in the black-and-white?


                Pampers, buddy, you'll change that. When you go on the attack to the trenches, for the staples.
            2. Serhio
              Serhio 1 March 2016 23: 40
              +5
              You are famously traveling svetlo! At 7-59 in Norway, at 17-17 in Italy, and at half-past ten already in the States. What kind of transport do you use?))
              1. brisk
                brisk 2 March 2016 18: 00
                -3
                Quote: Serhio
                You are famously traveling svetlo! At 7-59 in Norway, at 17-17 in Italy, and at half-past ten already in the States. What kind of transport do you use?))


                Do you need it? Well, I don’t ask you what and how.
          2. brisk
            brisk 2 March 2016 18: 33
            -2
            Quote: visitork67
            visitork67 Yesterday, 21:17 p.m. ↑
            Flags and underpants often change, and you will be saved. Carefully follow the course, but do not forget to look back, it is not yet known where it will fly from.


            The change will not help you. Without panties, it would be better.
        2. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 26
          +5
          What are you! , still appreciate something? You raguli wretched TORLED Ukraine - MY Ukraine, affable, generous, hospitable - and I will never forgive you for this !!!
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          2. brisk
            brisk 2 March 2016 18: 25
            -1
            Quote: n.kolesnichenko
            n.kolesnichenko Yesterday, 23:26 ↑
            What are you! , still appreciate something? You raguli wretched TORLED Ukraine - MY Ukraine, affable, generous, hospitable - and I will never forgive you for this !!!


            Ukraine does not exist! Hahland is. Can Kakland.
            1. Avtopilot
              Avtopilot 2 March 2016 19: 28
              0
              girls don't quarrel No.
    3. andj61
      andj61 1 March 2016 22: 32
      +3
      Quote: svelto
      You can, of course, talk about the stub of Ukraine, but more likely comparisons with the stub of New Russia pass. Not even with a stub of New Russia, but with a stub of Donbass in the form of the people's republics of the DPR-LPR.

      Congratulations! good There was a decent country, and after the Maidan there was only a bunch of bits ... request
      1. brisk
        brisk 1 March 2016 22: 37
        -4
        Quote: andj61
        Congratulations! There was a decent country, and after the Maidan there was only a bunch of bits ...


        Yah? A decent country? She seems to have always been called unfinished. Even in April 2008, in conversation with dear George.
        1. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 30
          +1
          It was decent when it was called the USSR !!!
          1. brisk
            brisk 2 March 2016 18: 08
            -1
            Quote: n.kolesnichenko
            n.kolesnichenko Yesterday, 23:30 ↑
            It was decent when it was called the USSR !!!


            Before, before you had to think! When Gorbachev and Yeltsin went under tanks in Moscow! Better yet, Kosygin should have been supported 20 years before!
    4. n.kolesnichenko
      n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 19
      +1
      How much hryvnia has fallen with the help of the whole world - to remind? Hear the USSR - write directly Ukraine and do not encrypt !!!
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      2. brisk
        brisk 2 March 2016 18: 28
        -3
        Quote: n.kolesnichenko
        n.kolesnichenko Yesterday, 23:19 ↑
        How much hryvnia has fallen with the help of the whole world - to remind? Hear the USSR - write directly Ukraine and do not encrypt !!!


        The hryvnia fell heartily, fell ... Did I seem to be wrong? And the ruble fell, in a year and a half, even at an even faster pace than the Ukrainian currency ... These two nags are running and competing, who will fall faster faster and deeper laughing
  24. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 March 2016 08: 05
    +3
    Obamka will not command anything to anyone. He is quietly "living out" his term, and his successors grappled with each other in the presidential race. Therefore, there will be NO sudden movements this summer. Mattresses are not up to Dill now. That's when the Clintonsha (not to be remembered by nightfall) gets to the White House - from then expect trouble. This hysterical woman can seriously remain in history as the FIRST US President - a woman and the last in US history.
  25. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 1 March 2016 08: 07
    +6
    Quote: svelto
    The article is cheap propaganda designed for fools. Bad in Ukraine, and hryvnia cheaper? And in the Russian Federation, what, already at full speed, is the rise of the welfare of the people and a strong national currency? For a long time 84 rubles were equal to 1 dollar? For a long time, for a long time ... So long ago, that already on January 21, 2016 this year was this unpleasant event. And now all that has already sunk into oblivion ... Well, how about it, how can it be ... Today is March 1, already forty days ... This date, it should be noted, is remembered ... laughing You can, of course, talk about the stub of Ukraine, but more likely comparisons with the stub of New Russia pass. Not even with a stub of New Russia, but with a stub of Donbass in the form of the people's republics of the DPR-LPR.

    Well, I did not notice a special collapse of the economy in Russia. We live as before, unless we buy less mink coats.
    From grocery stores, people, as before, are rushing full wallets of sausages and oranges.
    The main thing is that no one in Russia wants to go the Ukrainian way.
    1. brisk
      brisk 1 March 2016 17: 25
      -3
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      We live as before, unless we buy less mink coats.
      From grocery stores, people, as before, are rushing full wallets of sausages and oranges.


      Well, in Ukraine there are plenty of them now that full bags of sausages, grapefruits, pineapples and frozen squid are drawn from boutiques ... With liquors and a vodka ... I also did all this not so long ago. Yes, now he has become unemployed and put his teeth on the shelf. But then it’s my fault myself --- it wasn’t a fick at work, they wouldn’t have breathed ... I would have worked so far and the money would have been good for getting drunk and getting drunk.
      1. Cap.Morgan
        Cap.Morgan 1 March 2016 20: 11
        +1
        Quote: svelto
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        We live as before, unless we buy less mink coats.
        From grocery stores, people, as before, are rushing full wallets of sausages and oranges.


        Well, in Ukraine there are plenty of them now that full bags of sausages, grapefruits, pineapples and frozen squid are drawn from boutiques ... With liquors and a vodka ... I also did all this not so long ago. Yes, now he has become unemployed and put his teeth on the shelf. But then it’s my fault myself --- it wasn’t a fick at work, they wouldn’t have breathed ... I would have worked so far and the money would have been good for getting drunk and getting drunk.

        Hope you have temporary difficulties.
        I also changed 4 works recently, what to do ...
      2. n.kolesnichenko
        n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 33
        +3
        The word grapefruit is written without the "K" - the normal language has begun to forget.
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        2. brisk
          brisk 2 March 2016 18: 29
          -1
          Quote: n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko Yesterday, 23:33 ↑
          The word grapefruit is written without the "K" - the normal language has begun to forget.


          AND! Well, yes ... Thank you, I will consider.
      3. n.kolesnichenko
        n.kolesnichenko 1 March 2016 23: 42
        0
        The word grapefruit is written without the "K" - the normal language has begun to forget.
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  26. Million
    Million 1 March 2016 08: 22
    +6
    Ukrainians meat in a meat grinder, stuffing from which the USA makes
  27. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 1 March 2016 08: 42
    +2
    Ukraine followed the path of Japan in terms of choosing foreign policy goals and partners. The goal of the state will be the return of lost territories. But if the Japanese nation is a monolith, then there is no Ukrainian nation as such. Therefore, Ukraine can achieve its goal only if unified with Russia.
  28. morprepud
    morprepud 1 March 2016 09: 09
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    ... you cannot force a part of a whole to act independently, just as you cannot force a hand to be independent of the body! It's a chimera! Therefore, you want someone or not, but the fact remains - Ukraine, this is Russia! Belarus, this is Russia, Kazakhstan, this is Russia, Dagestan, this is Russia, Kamchatka, this is Russia ...!

    - 5 POINTS!
    1. Scout
      Scout 3 March 2016 12: 09
      +1
      if everyone who wanted to leave and those who left under the hands of Russia would live peacefully, build their own state, trade, then Russia would not have to strain because of who is there whose. The problem is that when they leave, they begin to understand that without Russia they are nobody and they have to invent their own significance. Historical processes are inevitable, and oddly enough science is the "psychology of nations" which says that there are offended nations as well as people, and those offended in their opinion unfairly start a war with the offender, wanting to raise self-esteem. This is exactly what we observe in the breakaway respected republic-states. Unfortunately, not everyone who is offended has enough sense to start thinking.
  29. aleks700
    aleks700 1 March 2016 09: 22
    -9
    parts of the Armed Forces in this area will simply be demolished from their positions, or rather, will be destroyed altogether.
    Yeah. Like ISIS. already many times completely destroyed And fled to CHURKEY. Win of course. But not with caps, but with a lot of blood. This hour is not 2014 year when in Ukraine there were 5000 combat-ready
    But Putin is not Yeltsin. It is doubtful that Russia will abandon the republic without support.
    Doubtful.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 1 March 2016 11: 01
      0
      01.03.16. Commentary from military commentator Boris Rozhin ("colonelcassad").

      "About an old mistake. Former ideologist of United Russia, Sergei Markov, is in touch." I admit that the refusal to send troops to the Southeastern regions was then a mistake. "Published (leak, but confirmed by the participants) the transcript of the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine dated February 28, 2014. They then learned that the buildings of the parliament and the government of Crimea were taken under the control of the Russian military. They are discussing what to do.

      1. Everyone spoke out against the entry of Ukrainian troops into the Crimea, against the order to shoot at Russian troops.
      The reason is simple, they were very afraid that Russia began to act and would go further in case of shooting.

      2. The Minister of Defense said that there are only 5 thousand combat-ready throughout the country.
      It can be seen that if Russian troops were brought into the Southeastern regions, then there would be no war. It should be added that, despite the fact that Kiev sent zapadents to Crimea, 90% of Ukrainian soldiers and officers, including the SBU, transferred to the Russian army.

      3. Turchinov took the toughest position, he alone demanded the introduction of martial law in the country.

      4. The decisive word was for Tymoshenko, she demanded that not a single tank leave the barracks.

      Then Tymoshenko played a big role, Turchinov and Yatsenyuk obeyed her out of habit. She wanted to become President, but the Americans appointed Poroshenko, and Tymoshenko was banned. 5. Turchinov's phrase "our western partners ask us not to make any sudden moves" is very characteristic. That is, the West did not drag out Russia at all, but rather feared that Russia would behave decisively.

      The conclusion is sad: the actions in the Crimea were absolutely correct, but the refusal to send troops into the then Southeast regions was our mistake. There would have been no war then, the West would not have intervened, the Ukrainian army would have gone over to the side of the "liberation forces." Everything became different when we allowed to suppress by force the resistance of the junta in Kharkov in April and Odessa on May 2.
      Although it is possible to understand our leadership, it wanted to avoid a big war.

      1. aleks700
        aleks700 1 March 2016 11: 02
        +4
        This, as it were, is not news, especially since despite the then cries of "no troops should be deployed", "Voentorg" and "North Wind" had to be used later in very significant volumes, and the costs of maintaining the DPR and LPR in the current realities turned out to be rather big ...
        But the moment, as they say, has already been missed and the final price of that decision will be more clear at the end of the war, no matter how it ends. The war will end successfully, of course they will say that you see - they donated in private in order to win in general. If the outcome of the war is deplorable, the story of the refusal to send troops to Ukraine with its subsequent section will naturally be called one of the main reasons for the defeat. Then the card will fall.

        Why is this topic raised again and again, including by people who are completely loyal to the authorities? Because one of the reasons for refusing to send troops at that time was the assumption that limited countermeasures in Ukraine would allow the situation not to fall into a new Cold War with the West. This assumption turned out to be wrong and a new Cold War began. But of course, even if this is considered a mistake, in a war, the authorities cannot admit it in any way, for this will undermine the belief that the authorities know what they are doing and are not mistaken in such matters. But the worm of doubt still gnaws at, and therefore, in most discussions about the general course of the war in Ukraine, those who write and speak again and again return to this issue, and the apparatus fuss of curatorial structures in Donbass and the alternation of alarmist and peacekeeping rhetoric in relations with the West, only spurs these disputes about the spring of 2014, which has not yet received a unified interpretation in terms of assessments of the prospects for the deployment of operations in South-Eastern Ukraine. I am sure that this topic will be raised and discussed more than once. "[/
      2. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 1 March 2016 12: 36
        +4
        An open expansion into Ukraine would give an occasion to call Russia an aggressor. It would lead to the consolidation of resistance and to a long guerrilla war (another Bandera underground, only more massive) - but do we need it?
        Time works against the current government of Ukraine, the worse they do, the better the locals understand what happened in their country.
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 1 March 2016 20: 38
          -1
          Open expansion to Ukraine - would give an occasion to call Russia an aggressor
          You may not be good, but Russia has been called the aggressor for 2 years. Given the rather powerful Russian propaganda, those who jump in Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk would now jump and shout glory to Putin. Although now they have no less reason to shout glory to Putin as the only guarantor of the existence of the outskirts.
          1. DimerVladimer
            DimerVladimer 2 March 2016 08: 39
            +1
            Quote: aleks700
            Maybe you do not taste, but Russia has been called the aggressor for 2 years

            Yes, as they call it - if Russia really wanted aggression - the Ukrainian army ceased to exist as an organized force within two weeks
            1. aleks700
              aleks700 3 March 2016 08: 44
              +2
              An open expansion into Ukraine would give an occasion to call Russia an aggressor.


              Yes, as they call it - if Russia really wanted aggression - the Ukrainian army ceased to exist as an organized force within two weeks
              So what are they called? Then why not roll out in 2 weeks?
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  30. Palladin
    Palladin 1 March 2016 09: 22
    0
    Quote: samarin1969
    Obama will say: face, and then it will begin ... "


    I think the Obama will sit on the priest exactly, he already crap for the past 2 years to the fullest, now he does not need this conflict, therefore Lavrov outplayed them in Syria because they drove themselves into a trap. If the Turks were not supported, then they will not harness themselves for Ukrainians.
  31. Corvetkapitan
    Corvetkapitan 1 March 2016 09: 25
    -1
    Given the frank Russophobia of the author of the article, I would like to wish him personally a meter by two, in the Donbass, and a speedy end to all Bandera Ukraine, with the complete liquidation of this state
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    2. RUSS
      RUSS 1 March 2016 09: 40
      0
      Quote: Corvetkapitan
      Given the frank Russophobia of the author of the article

      Are you about Alexander Staver? Who is he?
  32. Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 March 2016 09: 26
    0
    Just one question, why last year they did not allow the militia to reach the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, were there any forces, would they live like people now?
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 1 March 2016 09: 45
      +5
      Quote: Ros 56
      Just one question, why last year they did not allow the militia to reach the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, were there any forces, would they live like people now?

      What do you mean "not given." You either build your state and do as your conscience and interests dictate, or you play the geopolitical games of the "big brother". If the latter, then the task is 100% completed, an ongoing conflict that ensures that Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO in the foreseeable future. "Pushing" Donetsk into Ukraine in order to influence politically the situation in the country. Poroshenko should have severed relations with these republics long ago. They hate him there, all elections will be against him. Why this crap to him is not clear. And the war is also not beneficial to him, the death of people does not lead to an increase in the rating, exactly the opposite actions lead to this.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 1 March 2016 13: 09
        +1
        Quote: Al1977
        What do you mean "not given"


        No need to be naive and so straightforward, all adequates are well aware of how much and why. Or do you think that if LDNR stopped along the administrative borders, Kiev would have calmed down, yeah, wait.
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 2 March 2016 12: 06
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          Quote: Al1977
          What do you mean "not given"


          No need to be naive and so straightforward, all adequates are well aware of how much and why. Or do you think that if LDNR stopped along the administrative borders, Kiev would have calmed down, yeah, wait.

          The man asked a direct question "why they did not give it, although there were forces." You, as an adequate person, explain why the LPR and the DPR, expressing the will of their people and fighting against fascism, but we are talking about the official point of view, voiced by officials, did not "liberate" Mariupol, etc. and who didn’t allow it? - Kiev? Moscow? Obama? Erdogan -? Who did not allow the junta to be defeated? second question. And what happens in the territories that could not be liberated? All the same, the Nazis destroyed the Russians there or could not, but what is it on TV about this silence? How are things in Odessa? Kharkov?
  33. Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 1 March 2016 09: 45
    +3
    The dog barks, the caravan moves on. The clock for the Ukrainian "authorities" is ticking. We are already talking about the new Maidan, already Russian banks are entering the Ukrainian debt market with a vacuum cleaner, buying up debts of legal entities, the population begins to understand what has been done with them and are going to do. So we are waiting for spring 2016. I feel there will be a circus with elements of tragicomedy.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 1 March 2016 10: 11
      +2
      Quote: Ded_Mazay
      Russian banks are already entering the Ukrainian debt market in full, buying up debts of legal entities with a vacuum cleaner,

      Wow, this is sensational news. The banking system that most of all asks for money from the "anti-crisis plan" is buying up risky assets of Ukraine? Can you confirm this information? It looks like a fairy tale .. but I am not surprised at anything for a long time. Submit a link to the source.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 March 2016 10: 25
      +5
      It will be a tragedy. Collectors will beat out debts in favor of Russian banks and this will affect Crimea .... Business, nothing personal.
  34. netvrz
    netvrz 1 March 2016 10: 24
    +6
    Quote: armored optimist
    I remember even in the first year at the school I was surprised to hear from fellow Ukrainians: Ukraine feeds all of Russia! And then I did not know what to answer.

    Before perestroika, I was in the Baltics. I went on an excursion to a knitwear factory with a group of tourists from Zhitomir. At the moment when we visited the finished goods warehouse, where it was possible to buy a terribly scarce and equally popular Riga knitwear, I heard one of the Ukrainians address the warehouse manager: "We are walking with our older brother too, show us something better." Moreover, the words "under the elder brother" were pronounced with such an intonation that very bloodthirsty desires appeared for me. But Kiev in those days, compared to Russian cities, was something like a paradise on Earth. And even then, the attitude towards Russia was only outwardly benevolent, despite the huge number of mixed marriages. Therefore, I do not see anything surprising that in a very short time, Russophobia has become the flag of Ukraine.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 1 March 2016 12: 59
      +1
      I agree, I was in Ukraine in the era of the USSR, sometimes I met hostility, but basically everything was fine.
  35. atamankko
    atamankko 1 March 2016 10: 30
    0
    The junta will behave like a cornered rat is predictable.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 1 March 2016 11: 02
      +5
      Quote: atamankko
      The junta will behave like a cornered rat is predictable.

      Nobody is driving the junta anywhere. Build and develop the country who is stopping you. The question is different - they do not know how, all people in power only know how to cut budgets. It should be stupid to change a couple of generations until these are gone. By the way, this also concerns many of ours. Everyone is shouting about reforms, but just the "well-fed years" have taught the government to think constructively, everyone is working on energy, justifying themselves by the fact that there is a crisis in the West as well. then we are not bad, the world is like that .. There are no fresh ideas and thoughts and there is no desire to change something. It's easier to say to yourself "but it will be worse", especially if the salary of at least 450 deputies plus benefits ... And in Ukraine too ... God grant patience to their people, and to us.
  36. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 1 March 2016 10: 33
    +1
    in Syria even the uncontrolled gangs of the world went tired of the war and these goblins won’t calm down all they need is a steaming so that they run to Galicia without looking back
  37. Batia
    Batia 1 March 2016 10: 58
    +1
    Quote: VeterS
    The conclusion is unequivocal, Russia has an extremely dangerous and unpredictable enemy on its Western (and only Western?) Border. And it is very dangerous, but in fact - it is criminal to consider Ukraine, like most of its population, as lost sheep. The ENEMY hits in the back. And the enemy, as you know - DESTROY! (Provided, of course, if your home is dear to you, and not the smelly green loot) ...

    I subscribe to every word. Making predictions is an ungrateful and not entirely correct action. In dill, inadequate society. You can expect any stupidity, aggression, etc. But prepare and be prepared for the worst case scenario. I’m ready, if only they would (before the resignation of 1,5 years).
  38. Thompson
    Thompson 1 March 2016 11: 05
    0
    The probability of war in the Donbass is increasing every day! This is due to the inability of the rulers to lead the country out of the crisis, or inability or unwillingness .. Therefore, they have recently begun to inflate tensions more strongly to blame Russia and fan the hysteria of war! And the war itself is necessary for them in any situation, from both distracting people from the problems and hardships of the independence and blaming Russia for this and then writing off everything to the war! we had the same thing under EBN in Chechnya until Putin came
  39. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 1 March 2016 11: 59
    +4
    With the resumption of hostilities in the Donbass, it will be time to stop pulling the cat by the tail and inflict such losses on the advancing troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after which it would not have been necessary to talk about the presence of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces. And that’s it, the problem will disappear. There will be a howl in the West, but there will be no problem. It is time to act decisively and really help the Donbass.
  40. Normal ok
    Normal ok 1 March 2016 12: 01
    +3
    Against the backdrop of real successes in the construction of the state in the Donbass. It is already difficult to hide how the front-line cities of Donbass live. Ukrainians began to compare front-line Donetsk with their towns. Compare prices and salaries. And it turned out that the comparison is far from in favor of the stub of a former rich country.

    Well, you can't write such frank nonsense. Sometimes I communicate with refugees from Donbass, they, in turn, closely communicate with the relatives and friends who have remained there. Refugees constantly monitor the situation on the subject "when it will be possible to return home." Some returned last summer when the truce was being carried out. But the overwhelming majority is firmly seated here (Odessa) and does not twitch. And this objective an indicator of where people, at the moment, live better.
  41. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 1 March 2016 12: 12
    0
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: Dembel 77
    Need to work

    on the periphery with work now ass

    And full.))))
  42. Fantazer
    Fantazer 1 March 2016 13: 55
    0
    If Fashington orders, they will go headlong and putting their heads on the chopping block of enrichment of the oligarchs, there is no doubt only because they are all ZOMBIES
  43. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 1 March 2016 14: 14
    +1
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    What was it that disavowed there? -Height was taken, and the company died

    Sorry guys ...
    Incompetent management is responsible for this, which could not provide timely support to the company.
    Not always depends on the battalion commander how his soldiers are covered, unfortunately the interaction is not better than in the Second World War.
  44. _my opinion
    _my opinion 1 March 2016 15: 04
    0
    Against this background, statements of Ukrainian politicians from among the “deputies of top officials” about a revenge in the Donbas and in the Crimea suddenly appear. Military rematch.

    ... beaten all numb ...
  45. Chulman
    Chulman 1 March 2016 15: 13
    -3
    Quote: oldzek
    you're lying. there are no nations bad and good. there are people dermo. I served in a multinational regiment and had the opportunity to observe and compare.

    He’s not lying! I served and just in everyday life talked with Ukrainians. I have never met such people: at the same table he will sit with you, turn away - he will spit on your plate !!!! And it doesn’t matter whether he is from Kiev, from Lviv or from Donetsk. I said so softly so that the comments would not be deleted!
  46. drags33
    drags33 1 March 2016 15: 17
    +3
    How absurdly b / Ukraine was created, so absurdly this project ends. This territory, once called Ukraine, already nothing and no one will save !!! Neither money (which no one is in a hurry to give ...), nor external management (who needs a stone around the neck?), Nor the help of neighboring countries (all neighbors want to regain their territories).
    So the ridiculous project "Ukraine" is closing by itself!
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 1 March 2016 17: 32
      0
      I would like to add that NOBODY is interested in a united and sufficiently large Ukraine. The West does not need such a large country because of the subsequent problems after the docking (a sample of the eternal problems with Poland). Not without reason did the west slash Yugoslavia before swallowing it. So it will be with b / Ukraine. Russia does not need the same, forever jumping on the Maidans and unpredictable large enough territory. In general, the United States is only here because of naughty Russia. In general, if the Ukrainian "elite" has not yet understood what will happen to the territory where they are YET masters, then it remains only to sympathize with their future grief. According to the speeches of the "chiefs" from the USA and the West, it is clear that they agree to the partition of b / ukraine, now it seems that bargaining is going on only where the LINE will pass.
    2. galakt
      galakt 3 March 2016 19: 18
      0
      supermodel ...
  47. maximus235
    maximus235 1 March 2016 16: 00
    +3
    Ukraine is burning again! Donbass is little things compared to plans to create a new coalition for Syria, led by Ukraine! Yes exactly.
    “The coalition created by Ukraine is capable of making a constructive role in the settlement of the Syrian crisis and accelerating the peace process. The work is just beginning, it is too early to talk about the states that will join it. But, according to preliminary results, representatives of Burundi, Somalia, Congo, Guyana expressed their consent. Namibia, Botswana, Cape Verde and Burkina Faso. After training our fighters by American instructors, we can carry out ground operations at the world level. Now, under the Verkhovna Rada, a specialized Committee is being created that will coordinate all work in conjunction with the Government of Ukraine. " - says Andrey Teteruk
    Yatsenyuk even discussed this in the cabinet.
  48. eyed
    eyed 1 March 2016 16: 19
    +5
    How many strategists and generals we have homegrown! Well, almost every second! And all the Russians!
    And I have a wife Khokhlushka with Nezhin. And the soup does not spit, and does not steal, and, finally, a good wife.
    And the children don’t drink - they don’t smoke, everyone is in good positions - but half-breeds, they should be reptiles ....
    What is now in Ukraine is a bitter copy of our 90s: there is war, and alkashi like Yeltsin and Soo.
    And prices, and crises, and housing and communal services, and pensions and so on and so forth ... Let's wait, get too fast.
    But here's what exactly - their 5-15 year old trifle - these are already enemies, especially losers in the future. Those who are more intelligent will make their legs in Europe, those who remain will be extremely hostile. I don’t know what to do with this, but in about 10 years we should expect nasty things from non-merchants, especially in the border regions.
    I'd love to make a mistake .... but, judging by what is happening with us now, we will not be able to attract Ukrainians to our side. There is simply nothing to attract, well, nothing - and that’s it!
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 1 March 2016 17: 39
      +4
      Dear HOW MUCH CAN YOU BE PERISHED? They have been "furious" for 25 (!) Years and there is no end in sight! And there is NOTHING to expect from there except for muck and enmity. There, even FORMER NORMAL people become INadequate! And you will "go mad" ...
    2. Scout
      Scout 3 March 2016 11: 56
      0
      and on ... to attract them?
  49. Black
    Black 1 March 2016 17: 14
    +1
    The Mongols knew !!! They felt they had to answer !!! Here it is!!!! Started!
    Ukrainians demanded the return of all yasak, 5000 garn girls and taken away lard with interest.
    Now Mongolia has problems - where to get so much fat !! ??
  50. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 1 March 2016 17: 33
    0
    To preserve power, Kiev today is very necessary to be "on the front pages of the Western media." Just do not really work. Ukraine brought too many problems to its "friends." And these problems need to be addressed. No one agrees to live worse only to feed some kind of parasite. And Ukraine today turned into such a parasite. The country that lives on handouts and the alms of others.
    such a passive igil ka