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Media: in the 2020-ies in the composition of the Pacific Fleet will be four "Boreas"

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In the next decade, the Pacific Fleet will have four strategic submarines of the Borey type, reports MIC with reference to tass.


Media: in the 2020-ies in the composition of the Pacific Fleet will be four "Boreas"


“Based on Pacific submarine forces fleet in Vilyuchinsk, there is now the Alexander Nevsky submarine, which arrived there last fall from the Northern Fleet, ”the agency’s source in the defense industry recalled.

“In August-September of this year, a similar transition under the Arctic ice from the Gadzhievo base to Vilyuchinsk with 16 Bulava missiles on board will be made by the second Borey Vladimir Monomakh,” he said.

"It is planned that at the turn of the 2020-s, the Pacific Fleet will receive two more fourth-generation Borei-class missile carriers armed with the Maces, built on the improved 955A project," the source added.

According to him, the new submarines "will form the basis of the naval grouping of Russia's strategic nuclear forces in the Far East in the coming decades."

“They will more than compensate for the withdrawal from service in several years and the cancellation of three outdated strategic submarines of the 667BDR project,” said a source.

At the same time, he noted that "four more Boreas will receive the Northern Fleet."

As previously reported, the Boreev series will consist of 8 submarines: three are already in the Navy, four boats are being built, and the final eighth should be laid this year.
Photos used:
C. Kundyvusa / bastion-karpenko.narod.ru
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 28 February 2016 12: 48
    13
    How nice to read such news!
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 28 February 2016 13: 15
      +9
      Picture for clarity.
    2. gispanec
      gispanec 28 February 2016 16: 35
      +5
      Quote: oleg-gr
      How nice to read such news!

      what news ??? ... where is the news ?? ... the main word in the article WILL.... this is not news but dreams .... but when they become part of the Russian Navy ..... then yes ... then this is good news
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 28 February 2016 12: 49
    +5
    Finally, the Pacific Fleet will receive a full-fledged gain! But we must not forget about surface ships. Destroyers and frigates are needed as air. Moreover, the fleets of Japan and China in this region are constantly being seriously strengthened. Plus, the Americans are constantly present. So we are doing everything right.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 28 February 2016 12: 54
      +3
      That's for sure. One cannot forget about the Far East.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 28 February 2016 13: 00
      0
      Let us hope that these plans will be realized without delay.
  3. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 28 February 2016 12: 53
    +6
    Not enough, over time, 667BDRM will be decommissioned and only 8 Boreev will remain, which is not enough considering all sorts of repairs, etc. etc., when the submarines are decommissioned. The United States has 14 Ohio, 2 of which are constantly under repair, a total of 12 combat-ready submarines (6-7 submarines are simultaneously on combat patrol), and as I said above, in 7 years there will be 8 strategic submarines. At least 10 Boreans would be built ...
    Russia has never saved on strategic weapons. So not only is the Bulava inferior to Trident-2 in combat load, not only are the Boreas built with 16 missiles (although Borey-A was promised to build from 20), so also the number of the series is small ...
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 28 February 2016 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      At least 10 Boreans would be built.

      It would be good, but most likely it will not work out - they will finish with them and will be engaged in other ships.
    2. shinobi
      shinobi 28 February 2016 13: 18
      10
      The matter is in quality. The mace is inferior, but its warheads have 100% passability of any modern and promising missile defense, which is not expected from the tridents. Critical damage to the United States requires 126 warheads, one full volley of Boreas. For the complete destruction of 250-300.8 boats are more than enough. Moreover, Dolphins with their Sineva and promising Liners have not been removed from service. The number is not always the main thing. What difference will kill you alone a brick falling on his head, or one ton?
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 28 February 2016 17: 44
        +3
        Quote: shinobi
        Moreover, Dolphins, with their Blue and promising Liners, have not been removed from service

        by the 20th year they will remove and there will be only 8 boreas, and against each borea there will be 3 moose .... and this is a very worthless indicator ...
    3. le-s-ha
      le-s-ha 28 February 2016 13: 39
      +3
      In addition to carriers of nuclear weapons, sufficient forces of the surface and submarine fleets are also required to cover the deployment areas, which is now, I hope temporarily, tight. The situation is different with the ground component; new RS-26 and RS-28 systems are being developed, as well as the Barguzin BZHRK. there are no special problems with covering such complexes in the vastness of Russia. Perhaps in the future, with the saturation of the fleet with modern surface and submarine ships (perhaps such intentions will be announced after the start of the entry into service of Project 636.3 boats from a series of 6 units for the Pacific Fleet), the situation will be adjusted towards an increase in the number of underwater nuclear weapons
    4. Talgat
      Talgat 28 February 2016 16: 36
      +1
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      Not enough, over time 667BDRM will be withdrawn from the fleet and only 8 Boreev will remain


      But, reading all the news on SSBNs, I understood differently - only BDRs are displayed, and BDRMs remain along with Boreas

      That is, there will be 8 Boreev and some stake in the remaining BDRMs (with SIneva-Liner - how they upgraded liquid ones)

      And when BDRM is written off - then the number in Boreev will already be more than 8 - after 2020

      But in general. agree. for a continental power, the basis of security is still not SSBNs - but ground-based Strategic Rocket Forces - including railway complexes
  4. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 28 February 2016 12: 53
    -1
    From one kind of breathtaking!
  5. altman
    altman 28 February 2016 13: 06
    +2
    Most likely the series will continue, just so far no one looks. Of course, the BDRM will go away, which means that there will be a replacement ..
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 28 February 2016 13: 24
      +4
      Surely before the end of the series of Boreev, something new or modernized will be launched into the construction.
      Parity will not allow anyone to violate.
      Parity is our life insurance.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 February 2016 13: 07
    +2
    I’m looking at the photo, but he’s from my nine-story building. Well, however, the colossus.
  7. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 28 February 2016 13: 18
    -1
    Good but not enough, eight would have been needed only for the Pacific Ocean, and also the Atlantic and Indian Oceans.
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 29 February 2016 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Good but not enough, eight would have been needed only for the Pacific Ocean, and also the Atlantic and Indian Oceans.



      And what is the total number of "allowed" warheads? Carry only a few missiles on board?
  8. xam0
    xam0 28 February 2016 13: 19
    +1
    The good thing is that with current affairs in the economy, the budget for the army is not cut, they understand its significance in today's realities. And the fact that so far is not enough in the series, so no one forbids, when improving the situation in the economy, even before ordering such handsome men, or maybe they will create something even better by then. We must move forward and work, then we will have everything.
  9. Yugra
    Yugra 28 February 2016 13: 26
    0
    Boreas-guaranteed retaliatory strike on mattresses. I do not see other serious enemies at the KTOF ...
  10. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 28 February 2016 13: 52
    0
    honestly, I don’t believe it! Let them look at the calendar and remember that we have submarines, like floods, ships are essentially long-term construction. Maybe by 2030, then I will believe.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 February 2016 14: 00
      +1
      In 4 years all boats will be built.
  11. hartlend
    hartlend 28 February 2016 13: 59
    +1
    They will more than compensate.
    I suggest everyone to avoid the use of the word interest. This is essentially usury, the loan rate by which a Jew robs a non-Jew.
  12. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 28 February 2016 14: 00
    0
    Good news! Such boats in service with our Navy are quite capable of "cooling the hot heads" of America, Britain and other "evil spirits"!
  13. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 28 February 2016 15: 13
    0
    For those who are few, I think you need to wait until the construction program is announced after 2020. After all, they cannot completely stop the construction of strategists. They can only slow down the pace of launching new boats by switching to multi-purpose ones. A break in construction is fraught with a loss of competence. I think no one will allow this.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 28 February 2016 15: 37
      0
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      They can only slow down the pace of launching new boats by switching to multi-purpose

      Most likely it will. Yes, and it's time to finally lay destroyers
  14. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 28 February 2016 15: 56
    0
    It is very remarkable that Russia implements the rearmament program ahead of the 2020 deadline, we have always been able to do this, it will be so.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 28 February 2016 16: 07
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      It is very remarkable that Russia implements the rearmament program ahead of the 2020 deadline, we have always been able to do this, and so will

      Does not fulfill - the year 2029 - also fits into these terms.
  15. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 28 February 2016 17: 52
    0
    at the turn of the 2020s, the Pacific Fleet will receive two more missile carriers of the fourth generation of the Borei class, armed with Maces, built according to an improved project 955A»
    And what will be the difference between the boats of this project with the index "A" from their predecessors? Something with missiles will upgrade or improve stealth, autonomy, radars, etc.?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 February 2016 19: 05
      +2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      And what will be the difference between the boats of this project with the index "A" from their predecessors? Something with missiles will upgrade or improve stealth, autonomy, radars, etc.?

      No one dares to give reliable information. And here is what our media write:
      This is a contract for the construction of five strategic submarines of project 955A of the Borey class with enhanced nuclear missile weapons, at least 50% of the systems and components of which are completely new and have no analogues in Russian shipbuilding, ”a source in the military-industrial complex said. The volume of the contract exceeds 100 billion rubles, and the entire series of eight submarines of the Borey class, including and the last five, should be built before the end of 2018.
      The contract was concluded for 124 billion, the terms have moved to 2020.
      The improved design of the new strategic nuclear submarines (NPS) 955A ("Borey-A") does not imply an increase in the Bulava ballistic missiles on board, there will be 16 of them, a high-ranking representative of the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) told RIA Novosti.
      Earlier, almost all Russian and foreign media reported that the new Russian submarines of Project 955A, unlike Project 955, will be armed with 20 Bulava missiles.
      "Project 955A differs from the classic Borey (Project 955), but not in the number of missiles on board - there are 16 of them left. Accordingly, the displacement of the boat remained the same," said a representative of the military-industrial complex.
      At the same time, he stressed, the 955A project certainly has great differences. "In particular, the boats of this project are distinguished by a lower level of physical fields, respectively stealth, more modern means of communication, detection. They have improved crew habitability and survivability," said a representative of the military-industrial complex.
      At present, the construction of the first Borey Project 955A "Prince Vladimir" is underway at the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk. A total of eight nuclear submarines of projects 955 and 955A should be built.
      Projects 955 and 955A were developed at the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering (St. Petersburg). The lead nuclear submarine Yuri Dolgoruky is already in service (in 2012).
  16. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 28 February 2016 19: 22
    0
    "Sarmat" is not only ideal for replacing the R-18, but also the R-39 (if the R-28 is executed in the sea version), that is, for placement on the "Sharks"! Along with the restoration of the Barguzinov, this "gift" to our Western "partners" should really "please"! Then in general it will be possible for the "Sharks" not to dive - from one species of these "fish" any foreign admiral or politician gets a "bear disease" ?! As for the Borei project missile launchers, they are excellent boats, but they are a transitional stage to more secretive and armed next-generation boats - 988 with a hybrid power plant! wait ....
  17. Energy
    Energy 28 February 2016 20: 55
    0
    The Army and Navy are our allies for all time.
  18. Old26
    Old26 28 February 2016 21: 06
    0
    Quote: Talker
    But was it possible to first release the required number of Boreans and achieve stable launches of Bulavs, and then destroy the Sharks?

    And here "Sharks"? And what to do with them, especially since there are no missiles to them?

    Quote: KudrevKN
    "Sarmat" is not only ideal for replacing the R-18, but also the R-39 (if the R-28 is executed in a naval version), that is, for placement on the Sharks

    To replace P-18??? Do we have such a rocket ??? And of course, to replace the P-39. By all means. Instead of a solid rocket with a length of 16 meters, a diameter of 2,4 and a weight of 90 tons, put a liquid rocket weighing 140-150 tons, with a length of 10 meters more and a diameter of a meter instead of a solid rocket boat 3. Will you rebuild the boat with holy spirit ??
    Why make a "Sarmat" in a naval version, when there is the latest modification of the R-29RMU, more modern than the "Liner"

    Quote: KudrevKN
    Along with the restoration of the Barguzin

    Generally, "Barguzin" is not being restored. It is being rebuilt. It is impossible to restore what was not

    Quote: KudrevKN
    As for the Borei project missile submarines, they are excellent boats, but they are a transitional stage to more secretive and armed boats of the next generation - 988 with a hybrid power plant! wait ....

    Already know the name of the new missile boat project? Does Rubin know about her? And why not the 998th project. Can you share your sacred knowledge?
  19. kmv.km
    kmv.km 28 February 2016 23: 56
    0
    The epic "Borey-Bulava" for me is best characterized by one of the old "winged" phrases (conditionally successful, real or fictitious - I don’t know) of the President of My Country: "I took my balls - the butter disappeared."

    The problem of the USSR Navy - "boats for missiles" HAS TO BE SOLVED in the Borey-Bark set - the boat and missiles are made by PROFESSIONALS TOGETHER !!!!
    I apologize for the generalization, of course, the "LIQUID" project "667 BDRM Dolphin - ICBM R-29RM ... (Sineva, Liner)" - UNIQUE !!! (COULD IT BE LIMITED?

    What is the FACT "Borey-Bulava" ?: - The submarine GOT (characteristics, construction speed, quantity) !!! A ROCKET ??? !!! To impose a huge part of the country's security on the system with the reliability "FAU-2" ??? !!!

    Little questions for the subsequent "minus" of this site?
    a) only I have the phrase "We doomed the fact that she will fly anyway "caused, to put it mildly, bewilderment ??? This word, in which dictionaries do not look, will not add optimism ... Come on, the affairs of bygone days ...
    b) only I have a video of the last test of pins, "salvo - two pieces, even my slippers laugh (CRY) from this, because they know about the tests of the USSR Navy with a funny nickname (Behemoth)", caused the feeling that a little more. ... And ....
    the President of Our Country (with all due respect to him) had to utter one more "winged" phrase (UNCONDITIONALLY FAILURE): "Another boat sank" ...
  20. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 29 February 2016 04: 31
    -1
    Reason for reflection to mattresses. We go, we are already near !!!!
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 29 February 2016 05: 30
    -1
    A good club for the especially dull Yankees, teaches and treats gently and strongly, the first time and forever ...
  22. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 29 February 2016 06: 30
    0
    Uv. Mr. "Old 26"! If you are really familiar with the process of creating and designing weapons, especially with the basics of military SUBMARINE shipbuilding, then you should know - is the prototype or the previous generation of this type of ship class used as the initial "tracing paper"? And don't they reinvent the "wheel" "anew" !? The same applies to the trains - the ghosts of the Strategic Missile Forces with a Satan-class missile according to NATO's R-18 classification! It takes about 25-30 years to create a new generation of submarine cruisers from the issuance of the "order" to the raising of the flag, that is, today what I saw as a cadet while studying at VVMIOLU at the corfak is embodied in the "hardware"! Therefore, for me there is nothing new and "innovative" in "Boreas"! Also, my relative for a long time (80 -90) was deputy head. designer "Makeyevka" in Miass, so we can discuss the characteristics of the ICBM, for example, I think that the "Sarmat" weighs not 140 -150 tons, but 95 - 100?
  23. Old26
    Old26 29 February 2016 09: 50
    +1
    Quote: kmv.km
    b) only I have a video of the last test of pins, "salvo - two pieces, even my slippers laugh (CRY) from this, because they know about the tests of the USSR Navy with a funny nickname (Behemoth)", caused the feeling that a little more. ... And ....

    A spectacular test that showed that you can shoot all the ammunition at once. And about two missiles. So in "Begemot-2" out of 16 launched there were only TWO missiles, the rest were imitators, with a flight time of about 25 seconds.

    Quote: KudrevKN
    Uv. Mr. "Old 26"! If you are really familiar with the process of creating and designing weapons, especially with the basics of military SUBMARINE shipbuilding, then you should know - is the prototype or the previous generation of this type of ship class used as the initial "tracing"? And do not reinvent the "wheel" !?

    I do not mind what you write about "tracing paper". Indeed, no one reinvents the wheel. I am against your arbitrary treatment of indices and characteristics. Why is this? from ignorance or desire to show the opposite, what do you know? So alas, it turns out the opposite of what you wished for

    Quote: KudrevKN
    The same applies to trains - the ghosts of the Strategic Missile Forces with a Satan-class missile according to NATO's R-18 classification!

    Respected!!! On trains NEVER there were no class rockets "SATAN". This is the first. Stood SOLID FUEL missiles RT-23UTTH (NATO classification software - SS-24 / PL-4 during tests at the test site, according to the classification of WWS / START - PC-22, according to the classification of GRAU - 15ZH61)

    Secondly. Putting on a railway platform is not only a LIQUID rocket, but also weighing 210 tons - TOP OF MARASMA. There were problems with the 105-ton, what should have been with the 210-ton ???

    Thirdly. Missiles, according to the NATO classification "SATAN" never had a designation P-18. They were designated according to the classification of WWS / START as PC-20according to NATO classification - SS-18, according to the classification of GRAU - 15А14/15А18/15А18МCommonly Used Name - R-36M / R-36M UTTH / R-36M2. You invented some P-18

    Quote: KudrevKN
    Therefore, for me there is nothing new and "innovative" in "Boreas"!

    And someone claimed that there is?

    Quote: KudrevKN
    therefore, according to the characteristics of ICBMs, we can discuss, for example, I believe that the "Sarmat" does not weigh 140-150 tons, but 95-100?

    With numbers on hand? Do you have them? Only indirect data may be used. But even in this case, the weight you are talking about contradicts the statement of our MO.
    And they were told that the rocket heavy, hundred-ton class. Even knowing only this, the weight you have indicated does not correspond anymore, because under all contracts a missile with a starting weight of more than 105,6 tonnes. And everything else in the same way
  24. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 29 February 2016 22: 01
    0
    Old 26! Probably I will not open "America" ​​to you by stating. that our MO (military industrial complex) had to make "Borey" several units in ... a titanium case ??? And here the "authoritatively declaring" "strategists and tactics" were not guided by "an increase in combat effectiveness" and a decrease in hull weight with an increase in the working depth and speed of the underwater course, but by stupid commercialism in the development of budget money - instead of 38 billion in the steel version - 57 " yards "rubles in titanium !? Is it about numbers and awareness? As for the numbers (digits) in the numbering of missiles, the ICBM fleet from the very beginning was called products with the letter D "! For example," D - 4 "," D -5 "," D -9 "and" D 15 "! Do you know which "D" refers to which "R"?
  25. Old26
    Old26 29 February 2016 22: 39
    0
    Quote: KudrevKN
    Old 26! Probably I will not open "America" ​​to you by stating. that our MO (military industrial complex) had to make "Borey" several units in ... a titanium case ???

    It is possible though:
    Firstly, as far as I remember, the last boats with titanium hulls were made in the mid-1s, that is, 80 years ago. Are there any backlogs of buildings - HZ.
    Secondly, it is completely incomprehensible why to have a missile carrier in a titanium case. Yes, the diving depth will be greater, but why, if you shoot SLBMs, it will still be from a certain depth. In this case, savings of 2 billion with a completely unknown increase in efficiency. As far as I remember, I wrote about numbers and awareness not in relation to prices, but in the fact that you are quite free to use numbers, in particular in product names

    Quote: KudrevKN
    As for the numbers (digits) in the numbering of missiles, the ICBM fleet from the very beginning was called products with the letter D "! For example," D - 4 "," D -5 "," D -9 "and" D 15 "! Do you know which "D" refers to which "R"?

    Of course I know, but you shirk again. It was about the fact that you carried nonsense regarding the ICBM Strategic Rocket Forces. About boat there was no talk. Nevertheless, if necessary, I will answer you.