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Emotional reputation Erdogan



The name Tayyip Recep Erdogan has become almost a talk of the town. His name did not leave the leading lines of the events of the Middle East in recent years, beginning with the beginning of the civil war in Syria and to this day. In the name of "janissary in a tie," you can safely lead the list of people of the year. However, the rating topic is likely to be questionable.

An analysis of the latest developments of the political course of the President suggests that the Turkish establishment is often guided not by political foresight and common sense, is not the position of his country in the geopolitical field, and emotions. Feelings and sensations.

Let us recall the most important events in the Middle East in recent years and consider the position of the Turkish neo-osman to these events.

The war in Syria: the rejection of the Assad regime was originally due to several reasons. First, T. Erdogan, relying on the overthrow of the Assad regime, wanted to get absolute support from the United States (which he did not receive in the end, even in the Kurdish question). Secondly, there is one party - the Kurdistan Workers Party, which heads the list of the most dangerous for the integrity of the Turkish state and ... which enjoyed the great support of the Assad family (son and father of Hafez Assad). Thirdly, the Asad family is Alawites, and Erdogan is famous for his ardent Islamist ambitions. Syria with Assad is a situation in which Erdogan can forever say goodbye to his imperial ambitions. But Syria without Assad is the last chance for the Turkish leader to reanimate his reputation and claims for regional leadership. However, the main basis of non-acceptance by Erdogan Assad has no logic - the desire to restore the former empire and expand the boundaries of the territory. It is a grievance based on sensations and irrational dreams of US support. Emotions, emotions and emotions once again made Erdogan stay with his nose.

Kurdish problem. In one of my articles (http://cont.ws/post/185562), I gave a lot of rational arguments in favor of the opinion "It is more pragmatic for Turkey to agree to give the Kurds autonomy." These arguments include the financial costs of the armed struggle against the Kurds, the loss of the status of a democratic state, the undermining of the tourism sector, the destruction of energy and economic relations due to explosions of gas pipelines, the lives of thousands of people, finally, etc. A whole set of disadvantages for Erdogan. However, the President continues his trill. And this trill is devoid of pragmatism. The Turkish leader (the leader of a state that was once part of the Great Ottoman Empire) cannot give the largest ethnic group a part of the historical ethnic territories. And this unwillingness is also emotional and devoid of common sense.

Turkey - Russia. On November 24, a truly significant event occurred in relations between the two countries - the Russian SU-24 shot down by the Turkish side. The true reasons for such a reckless act on the part of the Turkish authorities are not known until now and Turkey is also paying the price so far (including sanctions and the development of Russian-Kurdish relations). Despite the fact that the Turkish leader is turning the arrows on NATO, it is absolutely clear that such orders can be issued only by a representative of the highest echelon of power, that is, the President of the country, that is, Tayyip Recep Erdogan. This is another illogical event led to the fact that Erdogan received two more enemies - in the face of Russia and NATO, in addition to the already existing regional neighbors of opponents.

Turkey - Israel. The event with the Russian plane is very similar to 2010, when Israeli special forces attacked the Turkish flotilla in the Gaza Strip. On emotions, Erdogan ordered the Israeli ambassador to be sent immediately from Ankara, in one fell swoop ordered to stop all types of economic cooperation and air traffic.

Another trait Erdogan has is ambition, which is often compared with the character of a Russian leader. Here is what the expert analysis center of Stratfor writes: “While Europe and other parts of the world are ruled by nondescript mediocrity, Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been boiling with ambition for ten years now. Perhaps there is only one more leader of a large country who is creating such a dynamic force field around him: this is Russian Vladimir Putin, with whom the West also feels extremely uncomfortable. ” And what were the ambitions of Erdogan?

become EU member
expand presidential powers
to create a neo-Ottoman Empire
become a leader in the Middle East and the transit center.

Unfortunately, none of his dreams were destined to come true. And it hinders everything - the emotional temper, which implies short-sightedness, dependence on the United States, and also the fact that many decisions are made without common sense. Parting words to Erdogan: “Do not justify your actions with either politics or religion ... Nothing but common sense.”
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  1. EFA
    EFA 29 February 2016 05: 44
    12
    It seems to me that Erdogan is rather guided not even by emotions. All his actions can be described in a few words: urine hit his head.
    1. Barboskin
      Barboskin 29 February 2016 05: 50
      +5
      This is exactly what the West needs, then everything can be attributed to it.
      1. shibi
        shibi 29 February 2016 05: 57
        +4
        We don’t need such an Erdog!
    2. Finches
      Finches 29 February 2016 06: 26
      13
      By and large, Turkey is our centuries-old adversary and to believe the Turks, even taking into account modern realities, to us Russians, is somewhat imprudent! Erdogan wanted to experiment, hoping for the correct position of NATO and the United States, what would happen if he crashes our plane? I will even admit, he thought that the pilots would both survive - experimented! He realized that he was wrong, and most importantly, wrong in the US reaction! And then he had two ways - to apologize to Russia, pay compensation to the relatives of the dead servicemen, sit on the ass straight and do not shine or bite the lot! Here, I agree, exorbitant ambitions played a role, but Obama’s strange position, Putin’s clear position, did not allow Erdogan to go to the end - he did not dare to enter the territory of Syria and limited himself to shelling! Therefore, little by little, he becomes a political corpse in Turkey! Muslim brothers will not forgive him indecision, the population will not forgive economic problems!
      1. shibi
        shibi 29 February 2016 08: 14
        12

        Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov.
        In Ottomans, muscular memory at the level of reflexes should work with the memory of this person.
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 29 February 2016 11: 17
        +1
        Do not rush to bury him.
        Prezik Parashe was also taken away for a couple of months, and nothing - the smoking-room is alive and will do many more nasty things. And Erdogan, as a figure, where much more significant. He can still go all-in.
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 29 February 2016 20: 34
      0
      winked Urine in the head "this is emotions. Negative which.
  2. Obstacle
    Obstacle 29 February 2016 05: 51
    +1
    And the desire to convert a secular state into a religious one (it is possible that it is of an extreme orientation). (IMHO)
    1. Quager
      Quager 29 February 2016 10: 48
      0
      It seems that Erdogan wants to create an analogue of Saudi Arabia in Turkey, where he is the sultan and the power will be inherited by his descendants, the only oil he lacks, which is nearby in Syria
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 29 February 2016 05: 53
    +7
    Voluntarism in politics is unacceptable!

    - I’ll ask you not to express yourself in my house!
    -And what did I say?
    - !!!!!!!
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 29 February 2016 05: 57
    +6
    The event with the Russian plane is very reminiscent of 2010, when Israeli special forces attacked the Turkish flotilla in the Gaza Strip.


    Nothing of the kind ... our plane did not in any way threaten TURKEY ... unlike the Turkish militants who attacked the Israeli special forces.

    Hehe ... peaceful Turks, as always, were holding daggers ready to strike behind their backs ...

    The insidiousness of Turkish politicians has not changed since the rule of the Turkish sultans.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 29 February 2016 06: 53
      +6
      Quote: The same Lech
      The event with the Russian plane is very reminiscent of 2010, when Israeli special forces attacked the Turkish flotilla in the Gaza Strip.

      The insidiousness of Turkish politicians has not changed since the rule of the Turkish sultans.

      ... and the Englishmen, as a rule, "encouraged" the Turks to do all sorts of muddy affairs! The last two centuries - literally led their foreign policy - in the "shadow format" ...
  5. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 29 February 2016 05: 59
    +1
    "Do not justify your actions either by politics or religion ... Nothing but common sense."
    Well, here you can argue.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 29 February 2016 06: 55
      0
      Quote: Nikolay71
      "Do not justify your actions either by politics or religion ... Nothing but common sense."
      Well, here you can argue.

      Well, why?
      It depends on WHAT is considered "common sense"!
      ... and here again interpretations are possible ...
  6. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 February 2016 06: 00
    -4
    The author wishes that Erdogad did not create his empire, and the author does not care about the dead Syrians and Kurds, as well as Erdogad. minus article.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 29 February 2016 09: 05
      +8
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      The author wishes that Erdogad did not create his empire, and the author does not care about the dead Syrians and Kurds, as well as Erdogad. minus article.


      Is everything normal with your eyesight ?! And with reading comprehension ?! Where did you see that "wishes that Erdogad did not create his empire"?! The author, in fact, is Kurdish by nationality and certainly does not sympathize with Erdogan!

      P.S. By the way, with the Russian language, you also have problems!
  7. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 February 2016 06: 03
    0
    moderators - why are my comments deleted? they have no mat, no threats or insults - what are the problems ???
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 February 2016 06: 09
      +1
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      moderators - why are my comments deleted?

      Show me where your comment is deleted?
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      -what are the problems ???

      The problem is your carelessness.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 29 February 2016 06: 14
        0


        smile something like this ... happens.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 29 February 2016 06: 56
      0
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      moderators - why are my comments deleted? they have no mat, no threats or insults - what are the problems ???

      ... in the moderators!
      1. andj61
        andj61 29 February 2016 08: 00
        +1
        Quote: CONTROL
        Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
        moderators - why are my comments deleted? they have no mat, no threats or insults - what are the problems ???

        ... in the moderators!

        In the poor eyesight of the user ... request
  8. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 29 February 2016 06: 16
    +2
    I wish this killer to go to the country of eternal hunting, nothing will help this tantrum.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 29 February 2016 06: 16
    +8

    The name Tayyip Recep Erdogan has become almost a talk of the town. His name did not leave the leading lines of the events of the Middle East in recent years, beginning with the beginning of the civil war in Syria and to this day. In the name of "janissary in a tie," you can safely lead the list of people of the year. However, the rating topic is likely to be questionable.

    And why are we so short-sighted, we opened mosques together, built nuclear plants, kissed gums ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 29 February 2016 06: 23
      +1
      And why are we so short-sighted, we opened mosques together, built nuclear plants, kissed gums ...

      Erdogan is not eternal ... anyway, it will be necessary to establish relations with the Turks, but without ERDOGAN.
      1. Delink
        Delink 29 February 2016 07: 00
        +1
        Erdogan is not eternal ... anyway, it will be necessary to establish relations with the Turks, but already without ERDOGAN


        Or it may not be necessary at all if they disappear from the face of the earth.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 February 2016 10: 19
          0
          How is this?
      2. genisis
        genisis 29 February 2016 10: 56
        +1
        relations with the Turks will still have to improve, but already without ERDOGAN


        And what segments of the Turkish population do not support Erdogan today? Kurds? Armenians?
        All Turks unequivocally support the policy of their president, they want to crush the Kurds, support the Syrian Turkmen (or who they are), restore the borders of the Ottoman Empire. And when Erdogan does not, Davutoglu will come, then Chavushoglu, then someone else, but the policy of Turkish Nazism will continue.
        The Turks did not repent for the massacre of the Assyrians, Armenians, Greeks. Do not repent for the captured Northern Cyprus. For the destruction with their active support of the Orthodox Serbia in its historical borders. For the dead, at the hands of the terrorists supported and sponsored by them from the territory of the Chechen Republic, Russian citizens.
        People repent when they feel guilty. The absence of remorse confirms that the mood of society and the president coincide completely.
        The ideas of "pan-Turkism" continue to advance in the world. It is naive to think that Erdogan is the only one who invented and implements them.
  10. SklochPensioner
    SklochPensioner 29 February 2016 06: 21
    +2
    Stratfor: "While Europe and other parts of the world are ruled by nondescript mediocrity ..." That's ... exactly!

    "Parting words to Erdogan:" Do not justify your actions by politics or religion ... Nothing but common sense. "
    Author Jamila Kochoyan "

    If Erdogan suddenly reads this article ... instant death from a flash of rage is guaranteed to him! smile
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 29 February 2016 06: 26
      +7
      If Erdogan suddenly reads this article ... instant death from a flash of rage is ensured for him


      Not that word ....
      Jamilya Kochoyan was born into a Kurdish family in Armenia in 1993, in the village of Shamiran. In 1995, her family moved to Russia, to the city of Novosibirsk.
      Kurdish ... lived in ARMENIA .... explosive mixture for Erdogan.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 29 February 2016 07: 06
        +3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Kurdish ... lived in ARMENIA.

        - Yes, even with such an appearance and such a mind laughing All to the heap laughing But really, it’s really even nothing, but according to the subject matter, it’s absolutely not stupid.
        Py.Sy. I have a white beard, but there is no demon in the rib. This is me, by the way, khe-khe.
        1. oldzek
          oldzek 29 February 2016 10: 32
          +1
          nothing wrong for us to forgive. admiring beauty and mind is not shameful.
  11. Hooks
    Hooks 29 February 2016 06: 30
    +3
    Any tantrum rolls. And his reputation is one word - a rat!
  12. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 February 2016 06: 30
    -6
    The author pities Erdogad, and not the victims of his power, the dead Syrians and Kurds. The author is sorry that Erdogad did not create his empire. minus article.
  13. python82
    python82 29 February 2016 06: 35
    +2
    laughing In a word, about Erdogan: "Like a mad horse, it cannot stand for a minute." In general, this remark is not about horses.
  14. Hooks
    Hooks 29 February 2016 06: 39
    +5
    And also according to his emotional reputation!)
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 February 2016 06: 39
    +3
    The Turkish establishment is often guided not by political foresight and common sense, not by the position of their country in the geopolitical field, but by emotions.

    Moreover, emotions are off-scale both at Erdogan and at the prime minister. Two of a Kind. And besides emotions, arrogance, swagger, and too exaggerated aggressiveness constantly come through.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 29 February 2016 06: 47
      0
      Moreover, emotions are off-scale both at Erdogan and at the prime minister. Two of a Kind. And besides emotions, arrogance, swagger, and too exaggerated aggressiveness constantly come through.

      Such a number of negative qualities of the leaders of TURKEY will cost this country dearly.
  16. Senior manager
    Senior manager 29 February 2016 07: 29
    +1
    After the shooting of our aircraft, it became clear that Erdogan was not a politician or simply ended as a politician. Although cheeks will still blow out oh how.
  17. Combitor
    Combitor 29 February 2016 07: 31
    +1
    Erdogan, of course, is a guy with great ambitions and "wants" above the roof. And he thinks that Allah is holding an egg. Only, behold, Allah is high, and you will have to fall very quickly, the higher, the stronger the acceleration, and the weight of the falling body must also be taken into account. A big blot on the ground will turn out ...
  18. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 29 February 2016 08: 40
    +1
    Quote: St. Propulsion
    After the shooting of our aircraft, it became clear that Erdogan was not a politician or simply ended as a politician. Although cheeks will still blow out oh how.

    Turkish Saakashvili. First he asked for a lyuli, then he rushes about like a rat
  19. mik6403
    mik6403 29 February 2016 08: 48
    -1
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    And why are we so short-sighted, we opened mosques together, built nuclear plants, kissed gums ...


    And we continue to kiss Turkey in the ass ... MOSCOW, December 1 - RIA Novosti. The State Duma deputies voted against the protocol instruction, which proposed the committees of the lower house of parliament to work out the issue of freezing the construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant in Turkey.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20151201/1333805041.html#ixzz41X7OEqsO

    http://ria.ru/world/20151201/1333805041.html
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 February 2016 09: 15
    +1
    It’s just that a man made a lot of stocks in a row.
    Either he didn’t count, or he was seduced by someone's persuasion.
    While not the fact that Obama or NATO.
    There and maybe a bunch of singing along.
    But in short, he got out of the wrong foot, and pride doesn’t allow him to re-enter,
    and perhaps the same singers.
    Well, if he doesn’t get into the bottle, he will meet us,
    it’s possible that it will be possible to resolve the conflict.
  21. RomanS
    RomanS 29 February 2016 09: 34
    +1
    Each "head" of his country is responsible for where "the rest of the body" ends up. It is true that the leaders in Europe today are indistinct. It is also true where the carcass of Ukraine is today (starting from the head). But the measure of ambition and restraint is determined by pragmatism and common sense.
    Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been seething with ambition for ten years now. Perhaps there is only one other leader of a large country that creates such a dynamic force field around itself: this is Russian Vladimir Putin
    And this is a fundamental difference between Russian President Putin and Erdogan.
  22. Erg
    Erg 29 February 2016 10: 37
    0
    Erdogan must leave!