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Tankers will go to the Arctic

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The construction of a giant shipbuilding complex, which will produce supertankers and floating platforms for oil and gas production on the offshore shelf in the Arctic, has begun.

It is created in the Far East on the basis of the Zvezda plant. In scale, the new complex will surpass even those industrial giants that existed during the Soviet era.

Within a few years, Russia itself will begin producing super-large ocean tankers and special ice-class vessels that can operate on the Arctic shelf.

In fact, our country can create the first and most powerful Arctic fleet in the world. Nikolay Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, told the Rossiyskaya Gazeta on how the construction of the Far Eastern Shipbuilding Center will affect the economy and security of the country.

Nikolay Platonovich, you were at the construction site of the future shipbuilding center in the Big Stone. What role does the emerging complex in Primorsky Krai play in ensuring national security?

Nikolay Patrushev: The commissioning of Zvezda IC will help ensure national security and state interests in the field of maritime activities.

By 2020, the Zvezda will begin production of tankers with a tonnage of 350 thousand tons and other equipment for the Arctic
It will be the largest and most modern civilian shipyard in Russia and the first one focused on large-capacity shipbuilding, which in the Soviet Union was concentrated in Ukraine in the city of Nikolaev. IC "Star" will work to ensure economic security.

It is assumed that by the year 2020 Zvezda will begin to produce tankers with a displacement of 350 thousand tons, gas carriers, ice-class vessels, special vessels, elements of offshore platforms and other equipment for energy projects on Russia's offshore shelves.

The fact is that the Russian shelf - especially in the Arctic latitudes - is the main zone where we should expect the most noticeable increase in oil resources and reserves, the discovery of large deposits. This makes the construction of oil platforms and fleet for its development.

How is construction going? What problems do you have to face?

Nikolay Patrushev: The full commissioning of the whole complex of shipbuilding complex production is planned to be completed at the end of 2024 of the year. At the same time, the input of the first production workshops is planned from the second half of 2016 onwards. We are talking about the warehouses of metal and equipment, the block of body production and painting chambers, workshops for the consolidation of blocks of housing, saturation, outbuilding embankments and other objects.

Equipment installation is now being completed, suppliers are fulfilling their obligations. There are a number of problems that need to be addressed. These are the questions that have arisen in connection with the imposition of economic sanctions against Russia. There are also difficulties depending on climatic conditions, on difficult logistics and lack of personnel. Following the results of my trip to Primorsky Krai on the progress of the construction of IC Zvezda, I reported all the problems of the enterprise to the President of Russia.

The reaction of the head of state certainly followed, because it was Putin who in 2013 ordered the creation of a shipbuilding center?

Nikolai Patrushev: Of course. Construction of IC "Star" is under constant control of the president. Recently, Vladimir Vladimirovich held a meeting on the implementation of the project for the construction of the Far Eastern Center for Shipbuilding and Ship Repair. The President set the task to resolve issues related to the creation and commissioning of priority facilities of production, energy, transport and social infrastructure.

Instructions were given to increase the level of coordination and efficiency of the activities of government bodies and interested oil, shipbuilding and other companies.

In addition, it was entrusted to develop a promising strategy for the development of the production base on the basis of the formed portfolio of orders for ships and marine equipment.

By the way, Rosneft, Gazprom, NOVATEK and Sovkomflot have already signed agreements of intent with the Far Eastern Shipbuilding and Repair Center, which provide for the placement of orders for the construction of ships, drilling platforms and civilian marine equipment at Zvezda. . These same companies suggest that in the near future a long-term plan should be developed to load the enterprise for the period up to 2035. The issues of delivery of large-format steel sheet for the manufacture of vessels are considered.

It is planned that after commissioning, about 7500 people will work at the shipyard. This is a good number. Therefore, the task has been set to provide the plant with qualified personnel and create comfortable living conditions for them.

The meeting also noted that the appearance in Russia, on its Pacific coast, of its own shipbuilding cluster will give a significant multiplier effect for a number of related industries. As a result, a significant impetus will be given to the complex socio-economic development of the regions located within the Far Eastern Federal District and the Arctic zone of our country.

Help "RG"


Russia conducted large-scale full-scale geological and geophysical studies in the Arctic Ocean to study the geological nature of the Mendeleev Range and the Lomonosov Ridge, a bathymetric survey, and seismic studies. In October, the last 2014 of the year (as part of the preparation of the application) expedition to the Arctic - geological and geophysical studies in the basin of the Podvodnikov and Amundsen basins - beyond the 200 miles. The high-latitude expedition crossed the North Pole, where previously there were no such studies. In general, the Russian Federation claims to 1,2 million thousand square kilometers outside the established 200-mile economic zone.

The site extends more than 350 nautical miles from the coast and contains estimated hydrocarbon resources of 4,9 billion tons of standard fuel. According to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, offshore the seabed and its subsoil are "the common heritage of mankind." However, the state can expand its economic zone if the seabed outside it is a natural continuation of the continent. Denmark, Canada, Norway and the USA also claim to the territory under the Arctic Ocean.
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  1. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 28 February 2016 05: 31
    +7
    Within a few years, Russia itself will begin producing super-large ocean tankers and special ice-class vessels that can operate on the Arctic shelf.
    Eh, it would be faster, at a pace! That case when you can not delay!
    1. MASK
      MASK 28 February 2016 05: 46
      25
      Great investment, finally ...! Enough to store them in American papers already. On tankers a lot of things can still be transported
      1. Kostyar
        Kostyar 28 February 2016 06: 06
        11
        Great news! Oh, in the other areas it would be just as grand, it would be a heroic contribution to the future of our children !!!!
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 28 February 2016 07: 14
          +5
          "SUPER TANKER" for the NSR cannot have (in the near future) a displacement of more than 70 tons.
          Do not get fooled by the PR action to "master" the budget for the NSR.
          http://topwar.ru/91019-lider-vmesto-lenina.html
          Our money in South Korea http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/topic19942.html
          Tanker "CAPTAIN KOSTICHEV" http://www.korabel.ru/fleet/view/34088.html
          Tanker "PAVEL CHERNYSH" http://www.korabel.ru/fleet/view/34091.html
          Go under "OUR" the flag of Liberia and Cyprus, respectively .................. am
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 28 February 2016 10: 05
            +4
            Quote: Serg Koma
            "SUPER TANKER" for the NSR cannot have (in the near future) a displacement of more than 70 tons.
            Do not get fooled by the PR action to "master" the budget for the NSR.
            http://topwar.ru/91019-lider-vmesto-lenina.html
            Our money in South Korea http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/topic19942.html
            Tanker "CAPTAIN KOSTICHEV" http://www.korabel.ru/fleet/view/34088.html
            Tanker "PAVEL CHERNYSH" http://www.korabel.ru/fleet/view/34091.html
            Go under "OUR" the flag of Liberia and Cyprus, respectively .................. am


            I definitely agree ... hi

            Quote: MASK
            Great investment, finally ...! Enough to store them in American papers already. On tankers a lot of things can still be transported


            There is an example of "Effective" investment - the Vostochny cosmodrome request

            Until we learn how to control expenses (up to the execution), deposits will be unprofitable ... request
          2. Cron1982
            Cron1982 29 February 2016 14: 09
            0
            But what about this one?
            266000 cubic meters of liquid gas, translate into tons, approximately 150 tons.
            More information on the Marine site http://seaman-sea.ru/supertankery/item/120-tanker-lng-mozah.html
            And a whole series of tankers for transporting liquefied gas.
          3. Cron1982
            Cron1982 29 February 2016 14: 17
            0
            One more. built for Gazprom.
            http://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/01/2014/900345.shtml

            almost 100 tons.
        2. Serg koma
          Serg koma 28 February 2016 07: 22
          +4
          Quote: Bone
          Oh, in the rest of the areas would be just as grand

          The cost of a shipyard similar to HONDAI will be several times more expensive than the Vostochny cosmodrome ...
          "
          Sewing will suit you
          Where is the money Zin ???"
          Vladimir Vysotsky
          drinks
        3. Giant thought
          Giant thought 28 February 2016 09: 23
          +5
          The main thing is that during the construction of this complex the situation of the Vostochny cosmodrome does not repeat itself.
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      3. guzik007
        guzik007 28 February 2016 07: 11
        +2
        Yeah, they vied screaming how Russia should get off the oil needle. But in the end, the entire industry is sharpened precisely for the raw material option.
        It seems that in klyamlya, they reconciled to the role of a cloth snout, which does not belong in the Kalash row, and decided that a tit is better in hands than a crane in railroad
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 February 2016 10: 10
          +3
          You just don’t talk about the entire industry, we have a lot of other industries that are also developing rapidly and they are not connected with oil.
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 28 February 2016 13: 16
            -2
            Quote: Vadim237
            You just don’t talk about the entire industry, we have a lot of other industries that are also developing rapidly and they are not connected with oil.


            Which for example?

            I see only a massive reduction in workers in absolutely all areas and a decrease in salaries.

            If 5 years ago my "then" direction of labor activity cost from 100+ and a sea of ​​vacancies, now there are near-zero vacancies and 25-30 thousand rubles ...
            1. gavrosh.ru
              gavrosh.ru 29 February 2016 04: 42
              0
              would have built roads, instead of pipelines, the pipe simply gives constant income, and to a limited circle of people fellow and they are the same roads for everyone (AS)


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      4. Ros 56
        Ros 56 28 February 2016 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: MASK
        On tankers, much more can be transported.


        And turn on your imagination and think what can be transported on container ships?
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 28 February 2016 14: 57
          +6
          Quote: Ros 56
          And turn on your imagination and think what can be transported on container ships?

          this...
      5. Maxom75
        Maxom75 28 February 2016 10: 57
        +3
        It is necessary to establish oil refining, otherwise we extract oil and send it for processing abroad, and then we buy the products of the second and third redistribution from there. The USSR produced gas no less than Russia, and exported 110 billion cubic meters to Europe, the rest went to domestic consumption and processing, and this was 120 billion cubic meters. Now 60 billion domestically, the rest is exported. In the USSR there was a terrible shortage of polymers, fertilizers and other processed products, so can it be worth increasing the volume of production of products of the third redistribution and selling it already abroad? There will be more money. Another question about the revival of the BVK project is cheap feed for the poultry industry, pig breeding, aquaculture, independent of droughts and world conditions (pure protein). So one plant is good, but only the beginning. It is necessary to raise the country and look less at liberal nonsense.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 28 February 2016 11: 29
          +1
          I don’t remember the exact numbers, but out of 500 million tons of crude oil, we export something around 200 million. I don’t argue, there is much to strive for, but the ratio is more positive than you write ...
          1. Maxom75
            Maxom75 28 February 2016 13: 36
            0
            What about gas? By the way, we also process oil to the level of fuel, and not to fibers and fabrics.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 28 February 2016 21: 29
              +1
              As far as I remember, fertilizers are made from gas from us. And we also seem to produce plastic ...
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 28 February 2016 21: 56
                +1
                Quote: Muvka
                As far as I remember, fertilizers are made from gas from us.

                They also do alcohol !!! it is a fact!
                1. Ros 56
                  Ros 56 29 February 2016 08: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  They also do alcohol !!! it is a fact!

                  Yeah, drinking. I think from where sometimes belching kerosene happens when you beat 200 grams laughing
    2. Serg koma
      Serg koma 28 February 2016 07: 35
      +8
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      Eh, it would be faster, at a pace! That case when you can not delay!


      17 Jan 201310:45 (i.e. THREE years ago)
      Further from the site "morehod.ru" http://www.morehod.ru/forum/kajut-kompanija/v-sostav-sovkomflota-voshel-unikaljn
      iy-supertanker-t26867.html
      .... Evgeny Ambrosov. In other words, Russia needs to build its own modern shipyard. A place for her has already been chosen - the city of Bolshoi Kamen of the Primorsky Territory. The first vessels, however, of the middle class, will leave the slipways in 2014, and by 2018 Russia will be able to produce tankers with a displacement of up to 350 thousand tons

      In the morning they ring about this ..........
      The question is, will there really be such a shipyard in Big Stone? Because on TV showed men with sledgehammers,
      by straightening a sheet of iron and collecting a ship up to 30 thousand tons ??
    3. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 28 February 2016 07: 54
      +1
      A huge shipyard is great.
      Maybe it will reach hundreds of small ones. The river-sea fleet, probably, already all the resources came out!
      And there thousands of cargo and passenger ships are needed.
    4. Blondy
      Blondy 28 February 2016 08: 34
      +2
      Well, I'm a blonde bitch, all of this is good, but try to feel the difference in the environmental consequences of a supertanker accident near the equator and beyond the Arctic Circle. I can even give a hint from high school that the rate of a chemical reaction exponentially depends on the temperature of the reaction medium.
      1. hrych
        hrych 28 February 2016 10: 06
        +7
        By the way, the ecosystem during the development of the Northern Sea Route will really change, namely, it will lead to an increase in the number of marine mammals, the number of which depends on the presence of wormwood, in particular, beluga whales try to support them for breathing and to prevent ice breaking with their backs, wormwoods are located at distances of kilometers. often they do not have time to do this and die en masse in terrible agony, and with the whole flock, and also at the wormwood there is always an eternally hungry white bear. Orcas themselves prey on belugas themselves, and the abundance of belugas and killer whales is directly proportional. Seals, etc. again use supported whales from freezing with wormwood, because frail and do not have the mass and power to break the ice. Those. in this paradoxical ecosystem, the beluga whale is unique and everything rests on it, there were still sea cows, but their pomors destroyed, however, they were also not able to maintain a kilometer-long net of wormwood. So, ice caravans in the Arctic are simply happiness for belugas and, accordingly, everyone else, their number will increase due to this, and therefore the number of seals using wormwood belugas will increase, the number of white bears and Arctic foxes, like predators and scavengers, etc. will also increase. By accident and pollution, again bonus, the worst thing from an oil spill on ice-covered waters is the formation of a molecular film with all the consequences (in the absence of unrest, in particular in the bays), and in case of unrest, i.e. in waves the release of clots to the shore where coastal marine animals, birds, etc. are completely killed, in the north this is impossible due to ice, and the ice-free period is a sea with severe excitement. In chemical processes, the dissolution of petroleum products at a low temperature is again smaller, plankton and fish swallow less rubbish than in the same coastal zone, and the current will smear the clumps of rubbish without forming a film and without dissolving on ice and the weather will freeze them, i.e. isolates in ice before thawing, the process is more extended in time and space, respectively, the toxic concentration is again less wink .
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 28 February 2016 13: 31
          0
          Quote: hrych
          the ecosystem during the development of the Northern Sea Route will really change, namely, it will lead to an increase in the number of marine mammals, the number of which depends on the presence of wormwood

          To do this, based on your narration, you need to CONTINUOUSLY maintain "clean water" along the entire length of the NSR - otherwise there will be a trap for the same belugas, after all, you won't give them a command - "forward", "back", "stop". The number of these, in this situation, will be greatly reduced, and also add screws, chemical exposure from all kinds of emissions (and God forbid accidents) and banal household waste.
          For reference: The length of the Northern Sea Route from the Kara Gate to Providence Bay is about 5600 km
          PS How to make polynyas at such a distance with alternating "breaths" of beluga whales?
          1. hrych
            hrych 28 February 2016 13: 46
            0
            There is a current called the Gulf Stream, some of which carry water, say from the area of ​​active shipping i.e. from the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea, etc., so it drags garbage into the Arctic literally a million times more than the northern caravans. Unfortunately, the oceans are not completely divided into separate Atlantic and Arctic, and as communicating vessels is a single whole. And not from ships, but from hundreds of megacities and tens of thousands of towns located on the coast and every hour polluting the world's waters with their sewage. Beluga whales, by intellect, are considered after a person literally in second place, and some human beings in the southern countries are not only completely superior and they won’t be able to climb under the screws. And the fact that thousands of beluga whales at different times are already simply saved by our icebreakers is a fact http://argumenti.ru/print/talks/n320/145615
            1. hrych
              hrych 28 February 2016 14: 02
              +2
              And the scheme of the Gulf Stream direction is such and, according to tradition, the Englishwoman shits at him ...
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 28 February 2016 13: 16
        0
        Quote: Blondy
        try to feel the difference in the environmental consequences of a supertanker accident near the equator and beyond the Arctic Circle

        It is many times more difficult to eliminate an accident (and consequences) in hard-to-reach places.
        Quote: Blondy
        that the rate of a chemical reaction exponentially depends on the temperature of the reaction medium.

        An accident occurred in the fall (for example), during the period of active ice formation ... How do you imagine the consequences and ways of eliminating the disaster? Before the equipment and people arrived, EVERYTHING was already under the snow. How will you look for bottling places? When and where (considering "migration" wink ice) Will you look for oil film in spring (summer)?
        Question by the way
        Quote: Blondy
        from high school

        - where the so-called "oil slick" after ice formation, on ice, or under ice?
        1. hrych
          hrych 28 February 2016 13: 50
          +1
          Quote: Serg Koma
          - where the so-called "oil slick" after ice formation, on ice, or under ice?

          Nowhere. A liquid film with a thickness of molecules can only form on the surface of another liquid, neither on ice (the solid state of matter), nor on the boundary of ice - solid and liquid - water, this cannot be formed.
  2. novobranets
    novobranets 28 February 2016 05: 35
    12
    In my opinion, Russia needs a military icebreaker fleet, armed with missiles and helicopters. Not cheap, but the decor requires.
    Sorry, gentlemen, that’s not the topic, but the news is very interesting. It looks like the petun is being drained, and who? own lord.
    CNN: “BARAK OBAMA ACCUSED UKRAINE AUTHORITIES TO OWN PEOPLE GENOCIDE”

    "Speaking in Washington to representatives of the Business Roundtable, US President Barack Obama accused the Ukrainian authorities of unleashing genocide against his own people," the CNN radio station reported.

    “Despite the comprehensive support provided by the United States to Ukraine, unfortunately, we are forced to state that the situation in this country has worsened and continues to worsen. The allocated funds disappear in an unknown direction, but not to restore the country's economy.

    Apparently, the government of Ukraine is not able to solve the tasks to ensure a decent life for its citizens. Corruption flourishes in all areas of its activity and unwillingness to carry out its functions to develop industry and improve economic indicators. Http://politobzor.net/show-83288-belyy-dom-vpervye-nazyva


    et-veschi-svoimi-imenami-i-ot-etogo-stanovitsya-strashno.html
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2016 05: 54
      +8
      I read the article.
      I read the comments.
      And the question arose, what kind of banana do you agree with him in this case ?????
      It turns out there will be nothing, khan of Russia right? The trouble of Russia in a large number of very stupid people.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 28 February 2016 09: 34
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The trouble of Russia in a large number of very stupid people.


        One last name is worth it! And why are you surprised when it is said: Russia has two troubles, fools and roads
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 28 February 2016 12: 08
          +2
          Quote: Ros 56
          Russia has two troubles, fools and roads

          And if one trouble can be dealt with using the paver, then what to do with the roads is unclear. laughing
  3. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 28 February 2016 05: 39
    +6
    Well, that's right, I remember how "carrots" imported along the SevMorPuti were sneaking around, but wouldn't it be enough? And then already one liberalist here has agreed - like, let's call America and Canada to develop the Arctic, like, like with Antarctica ... Do they even have nuclear icebreakers? Diesel is not rolled, not.
    That eccentric liked Putin's answer, without a pause: "WHAT, a brake, or what?" ...
  4. Termit1309
    Termit1309 28 February 2016 05: 44
    +4
    Quote: novobranets
    Apparently, the government of Ukraine is not able to solve the tasks to ensure a decent life for its citizens.

    For the elderly Julia, luck finally turned to the right place. wassat
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 28 February 2016 06: 08
      +1
      Of course, she will not become a president with a criminal record, but she has been aiming for the prime minister’s bench for a long time. It looks like the witch pulled her secret strings leading to Washington.
    2. evil partisan
      evil partisan 28 February 2016 07: 08
      +4
      Quote: Termit1309
      For the elderly Julia, luck finally turned to the right place.

      Yes, and she herself did not disappoint on the move, she turned to the Master in the right place ...
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 28 February 2016 07: 17
        +3
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        , the right place turned to the Master ...

        And asked the owner? Suddenly he needed another place?
        Hi drinks Beater laughing
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 28 February 2016 07: 50
          0
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Suddenly he needed another place?

          Well so tea turned as it should and ... repeat
          Hi, you shit! drinks
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Beater

          You, a colleague, have beguiled me with someone ... winked
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 28 February 2016 08: 00
            +2
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            You, a colleague, have beguiled me with someone ...

            There are special agents who do not need a certificate No. They will be recognized by their jacket yes Has forest bugs changed at home and already incognito? But the fly agaric in your ear with a double twist wassat
  5. xSprut
    xSprut 28 February 2016 06: 24
    +2
    Where big ships are built, there you can build aircraft carriers
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 28 February 2016 07: 14
      +2
      He, Mikhalych! Apparently, the governor of the Samara region also thought the same way when he recently ordered the production of iPhones to be launched at the refrigerator factory.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 28 February 2016 07: 26
      +2
      Quote: xSprut
      Where big ships are built, there you can build aircraft carriers

      And to steal a lot of money. Http://s125.ru/news/details/24550 One link. Http://www.novayagazeta.ru/columns/67219.html this is the second link. Well, who is interested, look for links "Accounts Chamber Russia "
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 28 February 2016 09: 13
        +5
        Quote: Amurets
        Quote: xSprut
        Where big ships are built, there you can build aircraft carriers

        And to steal a lot of money. Http://s125.ru/news/details/24550 One link. Http://www.novayagazeta.ru/columns/67219.html this is the second link. Well, who is interested, look for links "Accounts Chamber Russia "

        In short, I understood everything - nothing needs to be done. You don’t need to build anything, because anyway, everything will be stolen and in general everything is useless. Any undertaking is doomed to failure.

        I suggest that in order not to suffer, just lie down and die the whole country.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 28 February 2016 14: 07
          +1
          Quote: Gray Brother
          In short, I understood everything - nothing needs to be done. You don’t need to build anything, because anyway, everything will be stolen and in general everything is useless. Any undertaking is doomed to failure.

          If you are at odds with the economy, consider how much the delivery of materials across the whole country will result in? Everything has always been more expensive here. Your plants here have been cut once or twice. And you will have to buy everything abroad or lead through the whole country. And where to get labor such production volumes? In the Far East, you must first attract the population, develop the mining and processing industry, instead of the destroyed one, at a new technological level, and then build such plants.
    3. gjv
      gjv 28 February 2016 07: 39
      12
      Quote: xSprut
      Where big ships are built, there you can build aircraft carriers








      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 28 February 2016 13: 34
        +1
        Tanker Kirill Lavrov

        Countries whose flag served: Russian Federation
        Displacement (surface / underwater): 70 tons
        Dimensions:
        length - 260 m.
        width - 34 m.
        draft - 13,6 m.
        Speed: 16,0 knots.
        Powerplant: 2 Azipod-type rotary helical-steering columns.
        Crew: 35 people

        Arctic tanker Tanker Kirill Lavrov of project R-70046, with a deadweight of 70 tons, serial number 000 - the second vessel in a series of ice-class tankers being built on JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" for Sovcomflot OJSC.
  6. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 February 2016 06: 25
    14
    He added the article, since I myself live in Vladivostok and consider these shipyards near us.
    But ... but. The cost of living here may well be slightly lower than in the notorious "north".
    But salaries are not at that level.
    Yes, and the social one is limping on both legs,
    about the fare to the west of Russia, there is also something to work on.
    This is to the question of whether anyone will go to us to live and work here.
    Well, local officials are still used to living according to the wild laws of 90's.
    So if the state really wants to make
    competition for South Korean and Chinese shipyards, it’s worth working here,
    and not at all in terms of the construction of production.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 28 February 2016 06: 33
      +1
      I hope that something will change. hi
      In the Far Eastern Federal District, the implementation of several ambitious projects aimed at radically improving the economic situation and improving the quality of life of the population has begun. The head of the Ministry for the Development of the Far East, Alexander Galushka, tells about what tasks to be solved and what tools are used for this. Http://www.russianskz.info/economy/7706-tochki-rosta-dalniy-vosto
      k-stano
      vitsya-mestom-prityazheniya-trudovyh-resursov-i-investiciy.html
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 28 February 2016 07: 45
      +2
      Quote: Zomanus
      So if the state really wants to make
      competition for South Korean and Chinese shipyards, it’s worth working here,
      and not at all in terms of the construction of production.

      The question is where to get Ship Power Plants? BMZ, the only plant in the USSR that produced large diesel engines, now produces equipment for Russian Railways. I looked at the factory’s website: it’s not smelling like DKRN 74/160 diesel engines at the factory. Experts do not want to find fault with it as it’s just a kind of ICE.
    3. fif21
      fif21 28 February 2016 08: 37
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      It’s worth working here, and not at all in terms of the construction of production.
      Patrushev was not in vain appointed! Let's see how the construction of the FSB differs from the construction of the Moscow Region wassat I wonder how much contractors, subcontractors, designers will "saw off" or wassat
    4. kote119
      kote119 28 February 2016 09: 16
      +2
      Quote: Zomanus
      to the question of whether anyone will go to us to live and work here.

      I agree with you, there are not enough specialists in shipbuilding specialties in the European part of Russia, but there are a lot of specialists for such a global shipyard, and very good specialists are needed to get competitive products
  7. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 28 February 2016 06: 27
    +2
    Well, now it’s clear where Russia will build its new aircraft carriers.
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 28 February 2016 10: 25
      0
      I look it's just some kind of fetish. Aircraft carrier. Pimp your budget !!!! Why tanks, why planes, why ships? Swell the money now, you get a steel trough years through tsat.

      You story with the submarine Ash did not teach anything? 20 years built despite the fact that the pl on Sevmash were on the stream. And built for 1.5 yards of greenery
  8. Lumumba
    Lumumba 28 February 2016 06: 32
    23
    That is why all the well-known media write only about chernukha and about Nemtsov, Onalnoy and other Mr. noliberasnya? And not a word about new plants and production, about the work of ordinary people? So, they launched the European satellite the other day in Plisetsk, not a single bastard wrote. And the day before, a crane operator died in Yekaterinburg, why didn’t anyone organize processions and pathos of funeral services in her, did they arrange in Nemtsov’s memory? But the deceased person literally built for the country and people much more than all our liberals combined. Sheer hypocrisy and filth. I hate freaks who dare to mud their own country. I do not like? Suitcase, train station, Europe (USA).

    "Ugh b-d ... I hate hepatitis press." (c) Rustaveli
  9. Termit1309
    Termit1309 28 February 2016 06: 39
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And the question arose, what kind of banana do you agree with him in this case ?????
    It turns out there will be nothing, khan of Russia right? The trouble of Russia in a large number of very stupid people.

    Because back in the 20s of the last century, they proved that a person, if he is not alone but in a crowd, is a completely controlled being. What he throws well, he will think and will.
    For an example remember 80-90. The military are stupid, they walk in formation, hazing is crippling our children ....
    Several Leberasts were simply provided with green light and financing, and such a good result.
    From recent. Taburetkin urod, ruined the army and stole everything. Of those who planted this neck squealing, did anyone remember past defense ministers? Pasha Mercedes remembered? He stole much more. But how right pasan shared, with good and right people. But Serdyukov, although the person is not pleasant, did not let the good and right people in big uniforms steal. And they stole a lot and there were a lot of them.
    And a good, competent order was made to very good specialists. And now a lot of people at the word Serdyukov begin to show signs of zombies - foam, hysteria, rejection of a different point of view. For the sake of verification, you throw a test bone - Grachev. For most, the identity is unknown. Soviet Union-Serdyukov-Shaigu. Good-bad - good again. And that's it - the memory is erased further.
    1. fif21
      fif21 28 February 2016 09: 00
      0
      Quote: Termit1309
      For the sake of verification, you throw a test bone - Grachev. For most, the identity is unknown. Soviet Union-Serdyukov-Shaigu. Good-bad - good again. And that's it - the memory is erased further
      Yes, the people remember the ministers of defense and Ustinov, and Yazov (USSR), but they had no reason to "cut". They had EVERYTHING! And in the country of victorious capitalism, what a priest and parish! for Yeltsin Grachev was good, for Medvedev-Serdyukov, for Putin-Shoigu. hi
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  10. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 28 February 2016 06: 39
    +4
    The construction of a giant shipbuilding complex, which will produce supertankers and floating platforms for oil and gas production on the offshore shelf in the Arctic, has begun.

    It is created in the Far East on the basis of the Zvezda plant. In scale, the new complex will surpass even those industrial giants that existed during the Soviet era.
    May God grant everything to work and succeed. Not as they wanted, but as it should. And then it happens that it may be so. But still, we hope that 2 + 2 = 4 more clearly.
  11. Serg koma
    Serg koma 28 February 2016 06: 50
    +2
    Now a little back, to the "SIGNATURE EVENTS OF THE CIVIL FLEET OF RUSSIA" -
    "Significant event for the Russian civilian fleet held in South Korea - after completing all the tests, the new super tanker was given a name. The giant was named in honor of the famous maritime lawyer Anatoly Kolodkin. One of the most technologically advanced and environmentally friendly tankers in the world will soon go on its first voyage across the Baltic.
    In the morning, this gigantic, breathtaking vessel did not officially have a name, but now it has - “Anatoly Kolodkin”. It is named after an outstanding Russian lawyer in the field of maritime law. The traditional memory photo at Okpo, the South Korean port, is one of the most modern and high-tech tankers ready to embark on its first voyage.
    Yevgeny Ambrosov, First Deputy General Director of Sovkomflot, OJSC, said: “The innovation that was carried out in the design of this tanker is that it can take an increased amount of cargo — from three to five thousand tons more than other vessels with the same energy expenditure and capital expenditures. "
    The length of the new tanker - 250 meters, width - 46. This is more than three football fields. The vessel can immediately accommodate 12 tanks of crude oil, which is almost a million barrels, half the daily consumption of all of South Korea.
    All 20 sailors will have to cope with such a fella, but with modern technology it is quite real. Paper cards on board today are just a decoration, everything is done by a computer that provides so-called track control.
    Anatoly Kolodkin is not the first tanker built by order of the largest Russian company Sovcomflot. Today it is a major player in the market for offshore transportation of oil and gas, including, in areas with difficult ice conditions. The latest tanker is planned to operate in the Baltic.
    “We think that the construction of this series of vessels can be continued, but only under the condition of a more significant and significant localization of Russian content as part of the construction cost of the fleet,” noted Evgeny Ambrosov. In other words, Russia needs to build its own modern shipyard. A place for her has already been chosen - the city of Bolshoi Kamen of the Primorsky Territory. The first vessels, however, of the middle class, will leave the slipways in 2014, and by 2018 Russia will be able to produce tankers with a displacement of up to 350 thousand tons. "

    Only WALKS the seas "milestone event for the Russian civilian fleet"under the LIBERIAN flag .... AND WHEN THEN HERE IS the Russian civil fleet ????????? TTX and everything else" here http://www.korabel.ru/fleet/info/34034.html
    So it turns out and proud of the Russian civilian fleet in this (and not only in this) case Nothing.
    CONTINUED COMMENT BELOW.
  12. Serg koma
    Serg koma 28 February 2016 06: 50
    +2
    CONTINUED
    Now about the width of the "super tanker". The NSR is not for him, there is no one to carry out the tanker (even if they are built) in the near future, the laying of the lead icebreaker of the Arctic project took place in November 2013. Its delivery to the customer is scheduled for the end of 2017.
    Main characteristics (type LK-60): longest - 173,3 meters, width - 34 meters, displacement - 33,5 thousand tons
    " AND The 34-meter wide hull will allow tankers of up to 70 thousand tons displacement to be carried out alone in the Arcticovercoming three-meter ice at a constant speed. In a word, this is a modern ship that meets the requirements of the second half of the XNUMXst century. With rhythmic funding, shipbuilders will be able to by 2020–2021 build three new nuclear-powered ships. "http://topwar.ru/75744-v-peterburge-zalozhen-pervyy-seriynyy-led
    okol-tipa-lk-60.html
    Based on the foregoing, we can draw the following conclusions:
    1. "Super tanker" does not in any way refer to the Arctic, but is used as a kind of PR action in the Northern Sea Route, wedging in by its mention "By 2020, "Zvezda" will begin production of tankers with a displacement of 350 thousand tons AND OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR THE ARCTIC "
    2. The right hand does not know what the left is doing, the same applies to the cerebral hemispheres of the "leaders" of this project / PROJECT.
    3. "LEARN" more budget dough on the idea of ​​"national treasure" (how many times have already passed ...)

    PS Answers regarding the justification of the "advantageous" ("Anatoly Kolodkin") flag are not accepted. WHY NOT RUSSIAN ?, that is the question.
    1. gjv
      gjv 28 February 2016 07: 58
      +1
      Quote: Serg Koma
      WHY NOT RUSSIAN ?, that’s the question.

      What does the Ministry of Transport propose to stop the "leakage" of steamships? As transporters say, "the most cost-free mechanism." Namely - the adoption of a law on the creation in Russia of fundamentally different economic schemes for the activities of shipping companies. It is called the Russian International Register of Ships. The register in this case is not just a list, but also a kind of protection letter - the vessels entered into it fall under the protection of the state. Most countries in the world are pursuing such protectionist policies regarding their maritime industries. National ship registers have been established in Norway, Denmark, Great Britain, Germany. The neighbors have achieved results - dozens of ships sailing under "free" flags were returned under their native flags.
      The main transport department of Russia, by analogy with its Western counterparts, plans to ease tax and customs regimes. In particular, to relieve its shipowners of four basic taxes: VAT, property taxes, profits, transport. Instead, introduce a registration fee (1300-4000 dollars per year from the vessel, depending on the tonnage) and an annual tonnage fee (3000-10 000 dollars from the vessel). Plus income tax for crew members.
      According to experts, in general, the adoption of the registry law will allow 750 vessels to be lured under the Russian flag.
      At the same time, the value of registration income is projected from $ 1,3 million in 2004 (if the law, of course, comes into force at that time) to 4,5 million in 2010. The amount of income tax paid by crew members of vessels that can be registered in the registry will amount to $ 10,7 million in the first years, and by 2010 will increase to 59 million. Total budget revenues for these and other items for 2004-2010 estimated at 308,5 million dollars.
      It is even surprising that with such tempting prospects, the innovation found opponents. Yes, which ones - the Ministry of Taxes and Taxes, the very organizations that collect taxes and duties form the state budget. Why do not they want the money that could appear in the Russian fleet? Yes, everything is very simple - the innovation has not yet been tested, and a real reduction in taxes and fees already needs to be carried out.
      The authors of the bill do not share the opponents' concerns. The main question is rhetorical - how can one reduce what is not?

      This was the case in 2004. 12 years have passed, and things are still ... Money defeats patriotism. Bareboat charter, mmm ...
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 28 February 2016 10: 10
      0
      Quote: Serg Koma
      to the "SIGNATURE EVENTS OF THE CIVIL FLEET OF RUSSIA"

      But what about Korean shipbuilders and Russian oil producers?
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 28 February 2016 13: 46
        +1
        Here I am about the same ... Read the article carefully, it says at the very beginning
        Quote: Serg Koma
        A landmark event for the Russian civilian fleet took place in South Korea - after completing all the tests, the new supertanker was given a name.

        What does Russia have to do with it? Liberian tanker, made in Korea, owned by "world capitalism" lol Oh yes, OIL is Russian!
        "Tunic English,
        Shoulder strap french
        Japanese tobacco,
        Omsk ruler.

        Chorus:
        Oh, my scumbag
        American,
        There will be no money
        I'll take it and sell it! "
        (1920g.) laughing
    3. cedar
      cedar 28 February 2016 11: 57
      +2
      Quote: Serg Koma
      PS Answers regarding the justification of the "advantageous" ("Anatoly Kolodkin") flag are not accepted. WHY NOT RUSSIAN ?, that is the question.


      "... The most beloved state flag among Russian shipowners ... is the Liberian one. More than a hundred ships carrying export cargoes sail under its flag. In money, a ship sailing under the flags of the country of Liberia or Belize pays ten times less taxes to their budgets than if it sailed under Russian taxes and "unfastened" 20 percent of the income tax, 35,6 percent of the unified social As a result, 94% of domestic foreign trade cargoes are not carried by our ships, while Russia, according to experts, loses about $ 2-3 billion annually.

      She loses on the fact that new vessels are being built less and less at domestic shipyards, despite the fact that the average age of the fleet is 20 years. It is as if a person was 70. If some eccentric book and build a ship under the Russian flag, then almost a third of the cost of the ship will go to him for customs and tax payments. Construction is carried out mainly by attracting foreign investment. And Western banks, giving money, put forward the main condition - register a vessel only in offshore. On the one hand, of course, it's troublesome. On the other hand, it is profitable. Of course, not to the state ... "
  13. evil partisan
    evil partisan 28 February 2016 07: 03
    +2
    I understand that Patrushev will oversee the construction of this enterprise from the Security Council, which indicates the particular importance of this project. Well, right. You’ll spoil such a hell ...
    1. MASK
      MASK 28 February 2016 07: 23
      +1
      Quote: wicked partisan
      I understand that Patrushev will oversee the construction of this enterprise from the Security Council, which indicates the particular importance of this project. Well, right. You’ll spoil such a hell ...

      I noticed it too! Now the whole "riffraff" is in motion .. The smell of big money! These bugs need to be crushed in advance, before they stick to the project!
      1. fif21
        fif21 28 February 2016 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: MASK
        Big money smelled! These bugs need to be crushed in advance, until they stick to the project!
        And who will build? wassat Ural Komsomol members (urks) or Transbaikal Komsomol members (convicts)? Rogozin also supervises Vostochny wassat How many already stolen there? Bedbugs need not be crushed, but motivated! You work honestly and well, get a bonus, you work badly and you steal, get a term with confiscation. hi
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      3. Cat man null
        Cat man null 28 February 2016 13: 40
        +1
        Quote: MASK
        Now the whole "riffraff" is in motion

        Who is this "riffraff" to you? Patrushev in any way? Nude negative

        Quote: MASK
        quietly bedbugs need to be crushed in advance, until they stick to the project

        Yes Yes..

        - build, how to "crush" - will you yourself?
        - And not a spear sticks to your fingers?

        Allow .. to doubt .. on both points laughing
  14. Lieutenant Izhe
    Lieutenant Izhe 28 February 2016 08: 04
    +1
    The West has banned the sale of oil and gas drilling equipment, and FINALLY "ours were bustling", and before that they received "bonuses" on their offshore accounts from orders for all equipment ...
    Those. without a "magic kick" in the drawbar "WELL, NO", s-ki DO NOT work WISHCAN !!!
    Only an endless bunch of laws are adopted and canceled, amendments are made, but ... the efficiency of their "lawmaking" ??
    PSPlusanul..new - POSITIVE!))
    1. cedar
      cedar 28 February 2016 12: 21
      +1
      Quote: Lieutenant Izhe
      The West has banned the sale of oil and gas drilling equipment, and FINALLY "ours were bustling", and before that they received "bonuses" on their offshore accounts from orders for all equipment ...
      Those. without a "magic kick" in the drawbar "WELL, NO", s-ki DO NOT work WISHCAN !!!
      Only an endless bunch of laws are adopted and canceled, amendments are made, but ... the efficiency of their "lawmaking" ??
      PSPlusanul..new - POSITIVE!))



      According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, Article 15, Clause 4, we have the priority of international laws over Russian ones! So the main law - the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in fact, external management has been introduced in our country through foreign consulting and audit companies. They are the ones who FULLY control our legislation and finances! This became possible after the loss of sovereignty after the defeat of the USSR in the Cold War! Where did you see that the winners would not tear three skins from the defeated! The Navy is one of those "skins".
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 28 February 2016 12: 43
        +2
        Quote: cedar
        According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, Art. 15 and 4, we have the priority of international laws over Russian

        This ... not really, to put it mildly ..

        Quote: Constitution of the Russian Federation, 15.4
        Generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than stipulated by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply

        I’m translating (a hundred times after all they chewed about it already !!):

        - The state of the Russian Federation has concluded (somehow) an international treaty. It happens? Yes. Is it okay? Also yes ..
        - The state of the Russian Federation undertakes to comply with this agreement. Which itself, (censorship), and concluded .. Is this normal? Yes!
        - if the agreement concluded (censorship) by the state of the Russian Federation stipulates that black is gray, and the Law of the Russian Federation stipulates that black is black, in the execution of this agreement (and only) black is considered gray ..

        And all request

        Where is the "priority of international laws over Russian", may I ask?

        Quote: cedar
        external management introduced through foreign consulting and audit companies

        Would you like to embarrass yourself, inquired what exactly these "audit and consulting companies" are doing .. it's not the topic, it's a no brainer ..

        Further comment is simply useless.

        Quote: cedar
        Favorite State Flag Russian shipowners... liberian

        Yeah .. since the collapse of the USSR approximately

        In general, it was still practiced in 1960's (before - I just don’t remember) .. shipowners from all countries of the world, where this is clearly not prohibited by law ..

        I repeat: it is very old and global practice.

        That's something like yes
  15. Concealer
    Concealer 28 February 2016 08: 13
    -2
    The construction of a giant shipbuilding complex, which will produce supertankers and floating platforms for oil and gas production on the offshore shelf in the Arctic, has begun.

    It is created in the Far East on the basis of the Zvezda plant. In scale, the new complex will surpass even those industrial giants that existed during the Soviet era.


    And what sea communications already belong to Russia? What is where this merchant fleet to swim and who has it to guard? Where will your super tankers go ????
    Honestly, it’s funny, sometimes it seems that our leaders believe that they are in England and lead the English Trade Empire. Anglo-Saxon logic just rushing.
  16. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 28 February 2016 08: 28
    +1
    How is construction going? What problems do you have to face?
    And for some reason, the main problem is modestly silent: theft and cutting budget money. I just live nearby, scandal after scandal (((
  17. Stas 86
    Stas 86 28 February 2016 08: 42
    0
    Great news smile
    It's time to show the Light RF market bully
  18. nemec55
    nemec55 28 February 2016 08: 52
    0
    While we are being sucked in by the withdrawal from the oil needle, the tops are stubbornly seated by the state, there’s nothing to it, it seems like we are trading, but as I understand it, as always, through one place and we won’t see the NEP in the near future
  19. user3970
    user3970 28 February 2016 09: 18
    -1
    Alexander Romanov (6) RU Today, 05: 54 ↑ New
    I read the article.
    I read the comments.
    And the question arose, what kind of banana do you agree with him in this case ?????
    It turns out there will be nothing, khan of Russia right? The trouble of Russia in a large number of very stupid people.
    Dear Alexander Romanov. Why rejoice? That the president is not responsible for his words? So his "dad" YOBN also promised to put his boss on the rail, if the ruble collapsed a week before the fact, so for the last 4 years he walked like a vegetable without a boss. A year ago, even the loyal GDPR Audit Chamber (Golikova, I think?) Publicly admitted that 2/3 of the president's proposals, voiced and sent for execution to the government, were not implemented. That is, the government headed by the DAM sent the president through the forest. And rightly so! The government is de jure subordinate to the president, and de facto to the US State Department in the person of Chubais. I have been saying for a long time that the GDP - the president of Russia - is a project of Chubais, or rather the US State Department in the person of Chubais. To give a dog to a poor girl in public is yes.
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 28 February 2016 09: 33
      +4
      The trouble of Russia is there are people like you, who ALWAYS try to delve into dirty linen, and then wishful thinking is given for reality.
  20. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 28 February 2016 10: 22
    0
    That's right, we have to stake and develop, we will always be in time on the continent, but in the Arctic they can intercept!
  21. xam0
    xam0 28 February 2016 10: 34
    +1
    If we want to build ships of the ocean zone, and even more so if you want to have a real aircraft carrier in the future, then we just need such a dock! And the timing of the readiness of the dock and the construction program of a large aircraft carrier just coincide. And here also India and China are interested in large aircraft carriers, and besides us they have no other reliable partners in this matter. The Chinese will be able to build themselves, but they will come to us for technology anyway, and among the Indians we are almost the only option (France is a competitor, but everyone has already seen how reliable they are). And in cooperation with India and China, it’s quite realistic to build a large aircraft carrier on your own and in the Far East, where it will have a place to deploy. In general, I think a very necessary construction from all points of view. And yes he will overcome the road going.
  22. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 February 2016 10: 57
    +4
    At current oil prices, the development of a complex offshore shelf
    considered unprofitable. And the northern shelf is exactly
    to the complex. "Shtokman" Putin suggested that all politicians master
    and businessmen with whom I met, (at prices of $ 100) - no one pecked.

    But building large tankers is still good. They can be sold, given on
    hire.
  23. cedar
    cedar 28 February 2016 11: 35
    +2

    gjv, thanks!
    Better to see once! Than read a hundred times that the mustache is gone ...
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 February 2016 13: 39
    -1
    Don't bother Russia with your mind! Tax is the favorite source of replenishment of the treasury of our officials. Fortunately, you don't need to think too much. Finding a source at the expense of something new, innovative, the development of advanced industries is not. But it is much easier to raise the price of gasoline, to increase customs and tax duties. The impression is that when a person gets "upstairs" his brains either dry up, or begin to work in the direction of, as it were, something to cut off a loved one for himself. What kind of curse hangs over Russia? God grant that this plant would start working.
  25. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 28 February 2016 15: 05
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    At current oil prices, the development of a complex offshore shelf
    considered unprofitable.

    Perhaps today it’s not profitable, but tomorrow, when the Middle East is covered with radioactive dust, it may become profitable. Your Saudi neighbors say a nuclear bomb has appeared ... and you are rumored to have hidden it. So. That you have to breathe there in a thin tube.
  26. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 29 February 2016 10: 30
    0
    This is really very necessary and important! After all, LNG is the future in the gas transportation industry. The whole world is reorienting itself to "these rails". And it is vital for us to jump into the last carriage of this train, which has already started. And no gas pipelines, Ukraine, Turkey and Bulgaria. Pay and take! Shortest distance, short time, favorable price!
    http://www.pro-gas.ru/gas/jamal/