Su-34: Newest Russian Bomber

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Our new strike aircraft is designed to hit point-strong targets day and night, as well as around-the-clock search, detection, classification and destruction of surface and underwater targets in any weather conditions in the presence of active electronic countermeasures. Su-34 is called the immediate successor to Su-24, but the similarity of the indices and, in part, the assignment should not be misleading - there is no structural continuity between these combat vehicles. Su-24 was developed in 1960-ies as the Soviet response to the revolutionary F-111 family, created within the walls of the American corporation General Dynamics. The F-111 Aardvark in various modifications performed a whole range of tasks: from a tactical bomber to a reconnaissance aircraft and a strategic bomber (FB-111FA) and embodied several revolutionary technologies, such as: the use of afterburner dual-circuit turbojet, terrain tracking radar and variable wing geometry. The F-111 turned out to be such a good machine that the Soviet aircraft designers decided, if not to repeat it, then, in any case, to build an aircraft with similar capabilities based on similar design solutions. So there was a Su-24 - tactical front-line bomber.


Some statistics
The X-NUMX Su-83 (34 serial and 75 experimental pre-production samples) are in service with the VKS of Russia. One plane lost. 8 June 4 of the year when landing at the airfield in the Voronezh region at the Su-2015 did not open the braking parachute. The plane rolled out of the band and turned over.
Other pedigree


They also write about the Su-34 as a front-line bomber, and in this role it may well be used, but it is worth remembering that its prototype at the design stage was called the Su-27IB. IB means "fighter-bomber". Thus, our strike flagship is the constructive development of the Su-27 fighter, which was created in 1970 in response to the emergence of the American McDonnel Douglas F-15 Eagle. By the way, based on the F-15, they built a fighter-bomber, or, as they call it in the USA, the multi-purpose strike aircraft F-15E Strike Eagle (“Shock Eagle”), which, obviously, should be considered the closest American analogue of our Su-34.
Strike Eagle went to the first flight in the 1986 year, and in 1988-m was already adopted. The first flight of the Su-34 early prototype - “T-10В products” (aka Su-27IB) took place on 13 on April 1990 of the year. It would seem that the difference in time between the first flights of competitors was not so great, however, the Su-34 adopted the Russian army not two, but 24 years later, after it first “took the wing”. To explain the reasons for which our defense industry made such a pause seems superfluous.

Su-34: Newest Russian Bomber

Armored house
Protected with titanium armor, the spacious Su-34 cabin is perhaps one of the most interesting features of a strike aircraft. In the cabin you can sit, lie down and stand. There is a toilet and a mini-kitchen with a microwave. This is unprecedented comfort for aircraft of this class.

Nevertheless, the work has been done, and this can only be rejoiced. The “Aardvark” F-111, which once inspired the creators of the Su-24, has long been in museums, and our heroic “bomber” is still flying, although it has long been outdated. The factors of moral aging of the Su-24 include primarily its narrow specialization: now in the world military aviation There is a tendency to create more universal platforms. Our old bomber is too slow and low maneuverable to have any chances in an air battle against a modern fighter. After the Su-24 was shot down by an F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force, the Russian command decided to conduct all attack work only under the guise of Su-30SM fighters. The Su-24 is to launch rocket-bombing strikes against ground or surface targets, and to ensure the relative accuracy of strikes the aircraft has to (from outdated aiming systems) work from heights that are reachable for light anti-aircraft systems like MANPADS, and they are much larger likelihood may be in the hands of the same Islamic militant groups in Syria.


More wheels!
Due to the increased weight of the head part of the fuselage (compared to the Su-27), the front landing gear was completely redesigned. She moved forward and changed the scheme of its cleaning, providing also a pair of wheels instead of one.


Six-winged Seraph

Su-34, having one of the best domestic fighters as its basis, undoubtedly wins from Su-24 in maneuverability and is able to conduct accurate fire on ground targets, remaining at a safer height. The new aircraft also has more combat load (according to unofficial data, up to 12 000 kg against 7500), combat radius (1100 km against 560) and maximum speed (at high altitude 1900 km / h against 1600). At the same time, the Su-34 is quite far from the Su-27, which is noticeable even to an unsophisticated look. Su-34 - “triplane”, that is, in addition to the wing and stabilizers, it is equipped with two additional tail units located in front of the wing. This design improves aircraft maneuverability at low speeds. But it was decided to abandon the ventral carinae, characteristic of the Su-27.

Another striking feature is that flattened nose (radome radome). This design feature is related to the fact that in comparison with SU-27, the Su-34 has an expanded cockpit. As in the Su-24, the crew of the aircraft consists of two people, which are located on the seats in one row. This arrangement takes a direct start from the development of the T-10KM-2 deck training aircraft (also based on the Su-27). By the way, there are also two pilots in the F-15E, but they are sitting behind each other.

Between the seats there is a passage in which one of the crew members can lie down and rest. It is assumed that the plane will make long-distance voyages with in-flight refueling - a retractable rod is provided for this, so a short rest may turn out to be useful. In the back of the cabin there is a toilet and a mini-kitchen for heating food. Here you can even get up to full height.

Entry into the cabin is not carried out in the traditional way - through a lantern, but up the ladder through a hatch in the niche of the front landing gear. By the way, due to a change in the design of the cabin, the front desk has been redone and reinforced. Unlike the Su-27, there is not one wheel on it, but two wheels located next to each other. For the first time to protect the crew cabin was made in the form of a titanium armored capsule. The cabin is sealed and “inflated” - to the height of 10 000 and the crew will not need high-rise suits.

Compared with the Su-27, many other significant improvements have been made to the design. Strengthened wing, added two additional suspension points for weapons (12 vs. 10). In general, the Su-34 is much heavier than its base model - its maximum take-off weight is increased about one and a half times (up to 45 000 kg), which makes it possible to carry more fuel (up to 12 000 kg) and more weapons.

For greater security of the aircraft in addition to the main radar (В004 with a passive HEADLIGHT) located under the duck nose, an additional radar is installed in the extended aft beam, facing the rear hemisphere. When enemy targets are detected in the air, the Su-34 can attack them with the help of the standard X-NUMX-mm HS-27-30 cannon standard for the Su-30 family, as well as with the use of small-capacity air-to-air missiles (P-1) and average (P-73) range. The nomenclature of air-to-surface weapons is quite numerous and includes both adjustable bombs such as KAB-77, KAB-500, and unmanaged (C-1500, C-25, C-13) and guided (X-8, C -25L, X-25, X-29, X-31, X-35 (V), X-58 (M)) missiles.


Battle check
Su-34 is able to perform combat missions at any time of the day, in any weather and climatic conditions. Currently, 12 machines operate as part of a Russian air group in Syria.

Winged electronics

However, the effectiveness of strikes depends today not only on the quality and range of ammunition, but also on aiming systems and, in general, on the “advancement” of on-board electronic equipment. In addition to radar with a range of sight on ground targets 120 km and with the possibility of simultaneous firing at four targets, the avionics include the Khibiny-10В electronic warfare system (radio reconnaissance, active jamming), as well as thermal imaging and television aiming systems.

It should be noted that electronics, unlike a airframe or engines, is in some sense the Achilles' heel of our aviation, and the defense industry as a whole. It is known, for example, that on export versions of Russian combat aircraft sold to countries such as India or Malaysia, avionics of foreign structures are installed. Despite the fact that the Su-34 was officially adopted only in 2014 year, the first batches of a promising strike aircraft began to arrive in the troops already in the zero years of this century. In the first years of operation of the Su-34, various “childhood diseases” of the machine came to light, and they concerned, in particular, the unstable operation of the radar and the sighting system, which became a serious obstacle to delivering high-precision strikes.

At the beginning of this decade, following the results of the first years of use, including (unofficially) during the Russian-Georgian conflict 2008, the aircraft underwent modernization, receiving, in particular, new high-temperature engines AL-31-M1, an updated radiation warning station and a gas turbine auxiliary power unit. It is also reported that as part of the upgrade, navigation and aiming systems were updated, and their capabilities are now being tested in the course of air strikes against targets in Syria. At the same time, it is known that Sukhoi Design Bureau is developing a new, modernized version of the strike aircraft, Su-34M, which, in particular, provides for the installation of more advanced avionics systems. The new modification should be ready for 2016 − 2017 years, and the same Novosibirsk Aviation Plant, which builds the basic version, will start its production. Subsequently, the entire cash park Su-34 will be upgraded to the level of the Su-34.

Be that as it may, until the T-50 (Su-50) is put into mass production, the Su-34 remains the most advanced combat aircraft in service with the Russian HQs. Possessing a number of serious advantages over similar aircraft of the previous generation and in many ways not yielding to foreign competitors (and surpassing them in some way), the Su-34 will undoubtedly play a significant role in strengthening the country's defense capability. And the elimination of deficiencies and design flaws is a question of the growth of the technological competence of our defense industry.
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  1. +3
    28 February 2016 05: 49
    an additional radar is installed to the aft beam, facing the rear hemisphere Is it already installed? it’s just being finalized
    1. +3
      28 February 2016 17: 14
      In the aft beam auxiliary power unit (GTE)
      1. +5
        28 February 2016 22: 17
        Quote: kot11180
        auxiliary power unit (GTE)

        TA14-130-35

        located closer to the keels.


        he does not need a RP fairing on a beam


        where the "man in white" he is


        here at the bottom comes the "exhaust pipe" then chz 4 slots out

        1. 0
          3 March 2016 22: 59
          The article is not bad, but the author needs to work on the presentation. Then he writes that with the Su-24, there is no continuity, in the next paragraph that "constructive development."
    2. +5
      28 February 2016 20: 56
      Quote: Evgesh91
      Is it already installed? it’s just being finalized

      N-012 - radar (development of NIIR "Rassvet", manufactured by "Pulsar"), tested on radar-27 (Su-27M)
      everything is:





      and access hatches and RP beam fairing

      they planned to place it on the Su-35, again in the tail boom


      ------------------------
      On the SU-34M is likely to be adapted small-sized radar MF2


      1. 0
        29 February 2016 11: 21
        Quote: opus
        On the SU-34M is likely to be adapted small-sized radar MF2

        This is already in the course of a full-fledged AFAR.
        Isn’t she really small?
        1. +2
          29 February 2016 11: 57
          Quote: silver_roman
          This is already in the course of a full-fledged AFAR.


          This is generally a slot antenna, not even a PFAR
        2. +2
          29 February 2016 13: 31
          Quote: silver_roman
          This is already in the course of a full-fledged AFAR.

          The Ka-band MBRL radar module MF2–1 is the main part of the radar with a frontal slotted waveguide antenna array (VCHAR) with mechanical scanning.


          Quote: silver_roman
          Isn’t she really small?

          the mass of a small-sized dual-band radar "Kogitor" (MF2)
          will not exceed 55-60 kg and it will have a range depending on the task - from 0,2 to 28 km in the Ka-band и up to 160 km in the X-band.

          It is possible to supply radar in a single-band version. In this case, the mass with the Ka-band module will be about 23 kg, and with the X-band module - no more than 35 kg.

          Fazotron-NIIR Corporation plans to adapt the MF2 radar for installation on a modernized two-seat attack aircraft Su-25UB. The radar provides all-weather use of the attack aircraft, including at night.

          Quote: Falcon
          This is generally a slot antenna, not even a PFAR

          MF2–2 module of the X-band side view ...
          and this is a "piece" of radar Zhuk-AE / FGA-35 with AFAR(of course not 1148 pieces of PPM)


          KRET apparently does not see the difference (m / y gap and PAR)

          http://kret.com/product/10152/
  2. +21
    28 February 2016 06: 03
    Today seems like a night when the most amateurs post their "articles"
    After "The factors of obsolescence of the Su-24 include, first of all, its narrow specialization: now in the world military aviation there is a tendency to create more universal platforms." - you don't have to read further. The author is absolutely not in the subject of what is happening in modern aviation.
    1. +4
      28 February 2016 09: 11
      Our old bomber is too slow and low maneuverable to have any chances in an air battle against a modern fighter. After the Su-24 was shot down by an F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force, the Russian command decided to conduct all strike work only under the guise of Su-30SM fighters. The Su-24 is to launch rocket-bombing strikes against ground or surface targets, and to ensure the relative accuracy of strikes the aircraft has to (from outdated aiming systems) work from heights that are reachable for light anti-aircraft systems like MANPADS, and they are much larger they may be in the hands of the same Islamic militant groups in Syria.



      It killed me, who skips such articles?
    2. +3
      29 February 2016 07: 42
      Today seems like a night when the most amateurs post their "articles"
      After "The factors of obsolescence of the Su-24 include, first of all, its narrow specialization: now in the world military aviation there is a tendency to create more universal platforms." - you don't have to read further. The author is absolutely not in the subject of what is happening in modern aviation.

      source take a look, popmey am
      there are always "adequate" articles.
  3. 0
    28 February 2016 06: 26
    It is worth noting that it is electronics, in contrast to the airframe or engines, in a sense, the Achilles heel of our aviation, and indeed the defense industry as a whole. It is known, for example, that on the export versions of Russian combat aircraft sold to countries such as India or Malaysia, they are equipped with avionics of foreign designs.


    And the reason is not that they do not want to "shine" ahead of time their avionics? What makes you think that our avionics are worse? winked
    1. 0
      28 February 2016 10: 47
      On the contrary, by the way, this suggests that there is access to foreign equipment and components.
  4. +3
    28 February 2016 07: 01
    Subsequently, it is planned to upgrade the entire existing Su-34 fleet to the Su-34 level.
  5. +12
    28 February 2016 07: 09
    . There is a toilet and a kitchenette with a microwave. This is unprecedented comfort for aircraft of this class.

    if anything, it is called a "toilet". and in fact there are two laughing
    1. +3
      28 February 2016 08: 35
      Quote: rpek32
      if anything, it is called a "toilet". and in fact there are two

      There probably is a mistake, on the SUNBATCH, and the SANBAN SHOULDER be ...
    2. +15
      28 February 2016 10: 24
      Quote: rpek32
      . There is a toilet and a kitchenette with a microwave. This is unprecedented comfort for aircraft of this class.

      if anything, it is called a "toilet". and in fact there are two laughing

      Better sanbach than aviation diapers, as in NATO countries.
  6. +4
    28 February 2016 07: 21
    I am not a wizard. I'm just learning (s)

    Our new strike aircraft It is intended for the defeat of point highly protected targets day and night, as well as for round-the-clock search, detection, classification and destruction of surface and underwater targets in any weather conditions in the presence of active electronic countermeasures.
    And it's great!
    But the question involuntarily arises: before destroying the * underwater * (the one that is under water, and not on the supply!) Target, it must be detected. Visually, under ideal conditions of water transparency - up to 50-60m, and then what? ARLS? So even SDV only at 10-12m penetrate into this electrolyte ...
    So how does he detect boats under water?
    And the second thing. If it is used only as a platform for the delivery of weapons to the area of ​​an underwater target, and uses it for VII (control center of another system), then the AN-12 can also be considered anti-submarine (for the destruction of underwater targets!) For the same reason. On it you can load even more GB and the field with RGABs more "sow!"
    If one of the Stalinist (sorry, Putin!) Falcons knows more on this issue, please share, PLZ!
    Sincerely, hi
    1. +3
      28 February 2016 07: 27
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      If one of the Stalinist (sorry, Putin!) Falcons knows more about this issue,

      Well stop digging sad Urrraaa !!! laughing
      Hi drinks
    2. +3
      28 February 2016 22: 29
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      So how does he detect boats under water?

      the same as helicopters / aircraft PLO radio-acoustic and p-telemetric discharged buoys
      see weapons nomenclature SU-34

      see "beacons"

      Radio-acoustic buoy RGB-1A

      Passive Type Aircraft Radio-Acoustic Buoy to detect submarines in a submerged position by the noise they create and to transmit relevant information on the radio line about the presence of the submarine within its radius of action.
      TX: cable length = 35-70 m, detection range of PL = 2 km, continuous operation time = 2,5 hours, radiation work time = 45 minutes, self-destruction time = 3 hours, communication range = 40 km, discharge height = 200-2000 m, weight = 15 kg, discharge speed from the carrier = 700 km / h, splashdown speed = 35 m / s, wave height = up to 5 points, set = 24 pcs.

      well and so on
      Radio-acoustic buoy RGB-25


      Radio-acoustic buoy RGB-55A

      Radio-acoustic buoy RGB-16-1


      Радиоtelemetric buoy RTB-91

      A stand-alone disposable device for removing and transmitting data on board an aircraft on the vertical distribution of the speed of sound propagation in sea water used in the search for enemy submarines.
      TX: the range of measuring the speed of sound propagation = 1400-1550 m / s, communication range = 40 km, operating time = no more than 10 minutes, readiness for work = no more than 3 minutes, dumping height = 200-2000 m, weight = 13,5 kg, self-liquidation time = 6 hours, communication range = 45-60 km, dropping speed = up to 700 km / h, sea salinity = 19-40%, wave height = up to 5 points, hydrostatic pressure = from 0 to 20 kg / cc, depth of continuous determination of the vertical distribution of the propagation velocity of sound = 5-200 m, buoy weight = 14,5 kg, set = 2 pcs.


      Of course, not so much how much on the Tu-142M3

      However....
      1. +5
        28 February 2016 22: 41
        However, the container with radio-acoustic buoys RSL-NM-1

        as on Ka-27PL (without containers / containers essno)

        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And the second one. If it is used only as a platform for delivering weapons to the area of ​​an underwater target, and uses it according to the Institute of Civil Aviation (another command system), then the AN-12 can also be considered anti-submarine (to destroy underwater targets!).

        not allowed.
        On the AN-12 no SLA and no pylons for suspension, and the radio channel for receiving data from the buoy is the same NO
        No
        Universal small-sized torpedo UMGT-1

        Anti-submarine bomb PLAB-250-120


        APR-2 aircraft anti-submarine missile

        Designed to destroy submarines at depths of 8 to 600 meters, reaching speeds of up to 80 km / h.
        TX: weight = 560 kg, travel speed = up to 115 km / h, travel depth = 8-600 m, warhead mass = 60 kg, self-liquidation time = 15 min., ASN response radius = 11,5 km, ANDC reaction radius = 0,5-2 m, the conditional probability of hitting a target like PL = 0,8.


        And on the SU-34 there is
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        If someone from the Stalinist (sorry, Putin!) Falcons

        PLEASE do not consider me a "falcon" ("Stalinist" / "Putin") belay
  7. -2
    28 February 2016 08: 38
    In 1990 (as far as I remember), my friend who worked at Chekalda (NAPOiCH) told me what kind of factory was there when a Sukhoi IIB succumbed to a board computer with the Su-27IB, so the phrase
    Su-34: Newest Russian Bomber
    I always have a bitter smirk.
    1. +2
      29 February 2016 02: 09
      Quote: Mera Joota
      I always have a bitter smirk.

      but there is more new
      Quote: Mera Joota
      Russian bomber

      ?

      or something we missed?
  8. +4
    28 February 2016 10: 38
    Guys! Su-34 is a very good plane, I really like it !!! But the first flight was April 13, 1990. Calling it new is the pinnacle of cynicism. So can declare those who still receive prizes, titles and orders from the inheritance of the USSR, but he himself can not do anything sensible. angry
    1. 0
      28 February 2016 11: 23
      Quote: da Vinci
      Guys! Su-34 is a very good plane, I really like it !!! But the first flight was April 13, 1990. Calling it new is the pinnacle of cynicism. So can declare those who still receive prizes, titles and orders from the inheritance of the USSR, but he himself can not do anything sensible. angry

      Well, firstly, now airplanes, despite computer modeling, have been developed for decades.
      This 100 years ago everything was done on a hunch, on the knee ..
      Second - the airplane glider does not become obsolete for a long time. The filling is changing - engines, electronics ... so that the aircraft, despite the long design time, can be quite modern.
    2. +2
      28 February 2016 17: 39
      Of course, he wrote that "expert", but nevertheless:
      The first flight of the early prototype Su-34 - “T-10V products” (aka Su-27IB) took place on April 13, 1990. It would seem that the time difference between the first flights of competitors was not so great, however, the Su-34s were adopted by the Russian army, not 24, but XNUMX years after it first "took to the wing." It seems unnecessary to explain why our defense industry took such a break.
      1. 0
        28 February 2016 17: 50
        Simple calculations. 24 years - a lot or a little? 1917 + 24 = 1941. 1945 + 24 = 1969. Now compare the level of development of engineering and technology: 1917 and 1941; 1945 and 1969! Feel the difference!!! And Stalin has nothing to do with it. wink
        1. +2
          29 February 2016 00: 16
          Uh ... what are you smoking? What does Stalin have to do with it? what People had nothing to eat. What nah defense? Not immediately the research institutes and factories were generally not clear on what! I don’t know about you, but I perfectly remember the time when the majority ate almost only what they managed to grow in the garden. I won’t say anything about the city, I lived in the 90s in a village and a small town, not much different from the village. So cross out from the development history, about 10 years and another 5-8 years, make an amendment to the beggarly military budget, which was being built up far from at once.
    3. 0
      29 February 2016 10: 18
      Quote: da Vinci
      But the first flight - April 13, 1990

      In one year with the F-22 :) Khryaptor - old stuff?
    4. +3
      29 February 2016 14: 38
      Quote: da Vinci
      But the first flight was April 13, 1990. Calling it new is the pinnacle of cynicism.
      An airplane is not only a glider, but also its filling. And she was constantly changing. Engines changed, the cab, the arrangement of units, the shape of the tanks changed. I’m silent about what is connected with weapons.


  9. +1
    28 February 2016 14: 12
    A good plane, needed and on time. Su-24 is long overdue to retire - to museums. Our compatriot, Belarusian Pavel Osipovich Sukhoi, has good students at the Sukhoi design bureau who make the world's best planes in their classes. An excellent design school remained. hi
  10. +1
    28 February 2016 14: 12
    It's a good tradition: once a quarter to tell "new" about "the newest Russian Su-34 bomber", comparing it to the F-15 Eagle. The Su-34 is of interest as a strategic bomber.
    I would like to hear about combat effectiveness (beneficial effect \ cost) in Syria.
    1. 0
      28 February 2016 19: 11
      Quote: iouris
      Of interest is the Su-34, as a strategic bomber.

      I beg your pardon, but it’s front-line.
      Quote: iouris
      It's a good tradition: once a quarter to tell "new" about "the newest Russian Su-34 bomber", comparing it to the F-15 Eagle.

      Relevant sarcasm! drinks
  11. +5
    28 February 2016 14: 22
    For greater security of the aircraft, in addition to the main radar (B004 with a passive headlight) located under the duck’s nose, in the extended aft beam an additional radar is installedfacing the back hemisphere.

    After reading up to this point, I came to the conclusion that the author is absolutely "out of the question." negative The article is a retelling of largely unreliable information circulating in the network, unambiguously "-".
    1. +2
      29 February 2016 03: 51
      Quote: Bongo
      After reading up to this point, I came to the conclusion that the author is absolutely "out of the box"

      And what is wrong?

      N-012 - radar




      The radar control system is designed for this, the "Argon" onboard computer pulls
      1. +1
        29 February 2016 06: 46
        Quote: opus
        And what is wrong?

        N-012 - radar

        Only on production cars it is not. No.
        1. +1
          29 February 2016 13: 07
          Quote: Bongo
          Only on production cars it is not

          I do not know.
          photo from the assembly.
          is it not serial?
          To the exhibition? She probably is not on those TWO first, so there are a lot of things on them.
          Why shouldn’t she be?
          N-012 - radar (development of NIIR "Rassvet", NPP "Pulsar" produces, if I am not mistaken, or OJSC "TsNPO" Leninets "), tested and installed on the radar control system-27 (Su-27M) in the ancient years.
          They wanted it on the Su-35, on some sides it was.
          Radar "Leninets V005"?

          N-012 - Radar for viewing the rear hemisphere of the Su-34
          N-014 - Su-27M rear hemisphere radar
        2. 0
          29 February 2016 23: 27
          Spies are not supposed to know ...
    2. 0
      29 February 2016 23: 26
      Well, whose cow would be mumbled .....
  12. 0
    28 February 2016 14: 53
    Be that as it may, until the T-50 (Su-50) is launched into serial production, the Su-34 remains the most advanced combat aircraft in service with the Russian airborne forces.

    Something did not understand. But what about the Su-35S? hi
    1. +1
      28 February 2016 15: 23
      and su 35, blink29? Are they less perfect?
  13. -1
    28 February 2016 16: 42
    Quote: 0255
    Quote: rpek32
    . There is a toilet and a kitchenette with a microwave. This is unprecedented comfort for aircraft of this class.

    if anything, it is called a "toilet". and in fact there are two laughing

    Better sanbach than aviation diapers, as in NATO countries.



    Then it’s easier to fly with an open fly, or no pants at all. laughing What makes diapers worse?
    1. +5
      28 February 2016 19: 05
      Quote: siberalt
      Then it’s easier to fly with an open fly, or no pants at all.

      Yes, you sho, dear ?! And if, God forbid, you have to eject ... without pants. Well this is some kind of shame. belay

      Quote: siberalt
      What makes diapers worse?

      Lack of diapers = lack of public procurement of diapers = lack of corruption. good
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  15. +3
    29 February 2016 06: 52
    And why did it suddenly become a tri-Su-34? Listen to you like this Su-27 biplane;) All this life, this design was called a monoplane (one bearing wing). PGO (front horizontal tail) in no way refers to the bearing wing, especially the stabilizer. An example of a biplane is our I-15 (2 carrying wings), the Fokker Dr. triplane I (three bearing wings).

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