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Kurdistan really loomed independence



The shock waves of the war, which now engulfed a significant part of the Middle East, are reaching the furthest corners of the planet. The global media covers in detail the actions of the Iraqi army and the Syrian government forces. The activities of the "Islamic State" (IG), banned in Russia, and the Syrian armed opposition does not remain without the attention of journalists. In this interview we will discuss the struggle of the Kurdish militia, which is fighting more effectively than the troops of Iraq and Bashar al-Assad. My interlocutor, the representative of the Democratic Party of Kurdistan in Russia, Khoshavi BABAKR, agreed to give a general assessment of what is happening in Syria, Iraq and adjacent territories of their neighboring countries.

IRAQ AREA OF PEOPLE


- Mr. Babakr, please tell us about the party that you represent in our country.

- I here represent the Democratic Party of Kurdistan (KDP). It is mainly located in Iraqi Kurdistan and is the most numerous party of the regional government of Kurdistan, representatives of our party are majority in the government. Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani is the chairman of the KDP.

- Are you from Iraq? Can you say that you also represent the Peshmerga military organization?

- Yes, I'm from Iraq. Kurd from iraq. Our party is part of the government, in fact, is the ruling party at the moment, and the peshmerga is the Kurdistan (Iraqi) armed forces, and there are a lot of members of our party among these forces. You can say that I represent the Peshmerga.

- What are the objectives of the Democratic Party of Kurdistan? Does its program have the task of achieving independence for Kurdistan? Is KDP the only party in Iraqi Kurdistan?

- In Iraqi Kurdistan governs a coalition government. But KDP during the last election won a majority of votes and is the ruling party according to the results of the elections. In addition to us, the government includes the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Islamic United Party.

Kurdistan President Barzani is consulting with a coalition of Kurdistan political parties, a referendum is planned to be held, at which the question of complete independence from Baghdad will be put forward. And as a result of the referendum, concrete steps may be taken to gain independence, but how, when and how this will be carried out, as long as there is no complete clarity, painstaking work is underway on this. The decision of the referendum will not give an opportunity to immediately withdraw from the composition of Iraq, a long preparation is ahead for the success of such an action. Why are we sure we will get independence? Everything is obvious, Iraq is actually divided into three almost independent from each other region: the country of Shiites, the country of Sunnis and the country of Kurds. The south of the country before Baghdad belongs to the Shiites, the center is Sunni, and the north is Kurdish territory.

- Tell us more about the Peshmerga and your main opponent on the IG battlefield.

- The organization itself appeared at the beginning of the twentieth century; it is translated into Russian as “pesh” - go forward, merg means death, that is, “go to death”. As you can see, consonant with the Russian language, with the words on foot and dead.

Until 1991, the Peshmerga was a partisan movement, then the question arose of the need to create a regular army, its name was left the same, but qualitatively this organization was completely transformed. An army structure and a combined arms organization appeared. We even have aviationTrue, only transport helicopters. The number of peshmerga is about 200 thousand people. In the future, after the formation of the Islamic State, weapons for the peshmerga came from the Czech Republic, Hungary and other countries of the former Warsaw Pact, which now joined NATO. This is mainly an old Soviet weaponremoved from storage. Germany supplied anti-tank missiles "Milan". (Armed with a peshmerga tanks T55 about 200, T62 - about 170, T72 - about 30, PT76 - about 70; BMP - about 30, armored personnel carriers - about 250; anti-tank RPGs, LNG, PRUTS, air defense systems MANPADS, memory, ZSU; miscellaneous barrels and rocket artillery. - HBO). Turkey does not supply weapons.

The total length of the front with the IG is 1200 km. The number of fighters in the IG, in my steadfast conviction, is no less than 100 thousands. The “Islamic State” unites not only the Salafis, but also those who are ready to fight against the expansion of the West and the Shiites, whose aggressiveness they are sure of. Therefore, we must be aware that a significant part of the Sunni world really supports the IG and does so in accordance with their beliefs.

As for weapons, the IG, in possession of Mosul in 2014, seized a huge amount of weapons and military equipment, which was prepared for two or three divisions of the Iraqi army by the US military. According to my data, the Americans put their new weapons for these divisions (the Iraqi General Staff confirmed that the IG got 2,3 thousand armored vehicles HMMWV, Humvee. - NVO). Peshmerga in 2014 year faced with the problem that the militias of the IG were much better armed. In the future, thanks to the actions of the coalition aviation and the Russian space forces, most of this IG technology was lost as a result of air strikes. And besides tanks, other armored vehicles and artillery, IG got helicopters and airplanes, but the Islamists in the battle could not use this aircraft, for what reason I don’t know. Initially, most of the Gulf countries supported the IG not in a state, but as a private donation, but in significant quantities. Only Oman was not noticed in this (the state religion of Oman is Islam of Ibadah, the third direction in Islam, different from Sunni and Shi'ism. - NVO).

SPACES OF ONE PEOPLE

- Tell us about the Kurds.

- The Kurds are now in number in the Middle East region only behind Persians, Arabs and Turks. According to very approximate data, more than 20 million Kurds live in the south-eastern part of Turkey, and this is 90% of the total Kurdish population in Turkey. In Iraq there are 6 millions, in Iran there has not been a census for a long time, but according to 30 years ago, there are about 10 millions, now, I think, much more. About 10 million millions of Kurds live in Syria. In Syria, the smallest part of Kurdistan, the largest is in Turkey, then - Iran, then - Iraq. The Kurds have two main dialects - the northern and southern Kurmanji, the second is also called turuni. Kurmanji carriers poorly understand the Turaini speakers, but still understand. In addition, there is now an opportunity to communicate via the Internet, receive information on television, and thanks to other media the difference between dialects is not as strong as it was before. By religion Kurds are mostly Sunni, Shafi maskhab, there are followers of Sufism, Naqshbandi, Kadiri and others. Sufism in Kurdistan has been very common since antiquity, as well as in Syria and Iraq. Barzani, the ancestor of Naqshbandi, was born in Kurdistan. The Sufis, though Sunni, borrowed a great deal from Indian beliefs. Hence the tolerance of the Sufis to other religions. In Barzani, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and Gnostics always got along peacefully with each other. There are also Shiites who mostly live in Iran, to a lesser extent in Iraq. There are Yezidis, this is an ancient belief, they are also called fire worshipers, there are about 3 thousands in Iraq. Another religious trend, the Kakei, living in Kirkuk, has its own beliefs in the Khavraman area on the border between Iraq and Iran - these are different Zoroastrian communities. There are also Alawites, they are not Muslims, they, it seems to me, belong to one of the Gnostic teachings and have embraced Islam only externally. What they profess is unknown, but for some reason the Iranian ayatollah recognizes them as Shiites. Although the Alawites do not have mosques and they do not pray like Muslims. It seems to me that they initially resisted the expansion of Islam, but in the end, in order to survive, they were forced to accept the outer shell of Islam.

- Is there any religious discord among Kurds?

- AT storiesOf course, there are many examples of such discord, especially irreconcilable hostile relations used to be between Muslims and Yezidis. At the beginning of the IG’s activities, it included Sunni Kurds, but according to the data I have, most of them died, the rest left the IG ranks. They were not trusted in Daesh, suspecting that they were cooperating with us, so they either sent them to the most dangerous sectors of the front, where it was impossible to survive, or simply executed them. If now there are Kurds in Daesh, there are very few of them there.

Kurd solidarity

- Do you somehow interact with Syrian Kurdistan?

- Yes, in part. We assisted them in Kobani, when his defenders were bleeding, when there were battles for each house - the Peshmerga units came to the aid of their Syrian brothers. In mass media, information is slipping that at present the ties between Syrian and Iraqi Kurds have cooled considerably, but this is not so. Whenever possible, we help them economically, politically and militarily. Including weapons.

- Do you interact with Turkish Kurdistan? With the Kurdistan Workers' Party?

- Yes, we are in contact with the Turkish Kurds. But we have a special relationship with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), many consider it a terrorist organization, but not us. In Turkey, this party is in an underground position and is waging an armed struggle with the Turkish authorities, and we are not in conflict, on the contrary, we cooperate with Ankara politically and economically. We are pursuing a very cautious, balanced policy with our northern neighbor. In Turkey, we also interact with the legal pro-Kurdish party, this is the Party of the Peoples of Turkey, which won more than 11% of votes at the last election and won seats in the Majlis (Turkish parliament. - IEE). It is the official parliamentary party, which acts openly in the political struggle by legal means. In addition to Turkey, the PKK is considered terrorist by Iran, the countries of the Persian Gulf.

- Do you have connections with Iranian Kurds?

- Very careful work is also going on with Iranian Kurds. The fact is that more recently they have rather actively fought with the Iranian authorities. We are talking about two factions of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan and two factions of the Komal party - the association of workers of Kurdistan. After the 1991 of the year, when the regional government of Iraqi Kurdistan was formed, under pressure from our side, the parties I mentioned stopped the armed actions against the Iranian authorities. This contributed to the stabilization of the situation inside Iraqi Kurdistan. In any case, from Iran’s side, hostile actions against us have ceased. A truce was announced between us and the Iranian authorities, which continues to this day. We keep in touch with the listed political parties, but we have limited contact with them, with restraint, first of all we show them that we will not tolerate their armed uprisings against Tehran if they arise. Thereby we encourage them to a peaceful political path of struggle for their rights. They have bases and representative offices in Iraqi Kurdistan. There are Kurdish parties in Iran that defend the rights of the Kurds with parliamentary methods. We maintain economic and political contacts with both Turkey and Iran. For example, the annual trade turnover with Turkey is 12 billion US dollars. Not only our oil goes through us, but also Iraqi oil. We also have close political and economic relations with Iran.

SYRIAN KURDISTAN

- Tell us who is in charge of the Syrian Kurdistan militia, who supports him?

- There are several political parties. There are parties that do not take part in the armed struggle, such as the National Kurdish Council of Syria. The armed forces are led by the Party of the Democratic Union. The militia was called the Syrian Democratic Army (ATS). Women fight on a par with men (SDA has about 65 thousands of bayonets. - HBO). This army was formed with the help of PKK militants who gained considerable combat experience in confrontation with the Turkish authorities. Their weapons are not very powerful, armored vehicles and artillery are few, they fight mostly with small arms and with enthusiasm. I know that the Americans threw their weapons through the air several times. There is information that Damascus also armed them. They buy weapons in Syria and Iraq, now you can buy any small arms, including modern samples. Syrian Kurds are mostly Sunni, but thanks to the activities of political parties, which are essentially non-religious, the population was able to turn away from radical Islam in the direction of social values. Many political parties have a left-wing orientation, some took Marxism-Leninism as an ideological base. As an example, the PKK. Therefore, we can say that the main ideology of the Syrian militia is a kind of Kurdish socialism. The ATS is based on Syrian Kurds, but there are some volunteers from Turkey, Iraq and Iran.

- There are two sites that control the Syrian Kurds: the large eastern and significantly smaller in size western, and between them the IG wedged in, which in this segment has access to the Syrian-Turkish border. Do these areas somehow interact with each other, do they have the same or different leadership?

- Yes, they interact, moreover, the Kurds managed to make significant progress in the direction of Aleppo, an airport was taken, and Azaz, in turn, passed through the road connecting Aleppo and Turkey. The entire length of the Syrian-Turkish border 822 kilometers, and 700 kilometers border the Kurds with their armed forces. This border is the line of the Cold War, where fighting is not conducted, except when the Turks subject to fire or air strikes the positions of the Kurdish militia, but to cover this line is necessary, and this delays considerable forces that could be used against the IS. When the Turks bombard the Syrian Kurds, the latter have to exercise restraint and not respond with fire to fire, in order not to provoke a Turkish invasion. After the start of the Russian VKS operation in Syria, the frequency of these attacks was reduced, and after the incident with the Russian Su-24, the Turks completely stopped air strikes on SDA.

- There is information about the possibility of the start of the land operation of Turkey and Saudi Arabia in Syria. If they embark on such an expansion, do you think Syrian Kurds are ready to fight the Turks and the Saudis?




- The Kurds have repeatedly proved that they are ready to act decisively to repel an attack by an aggressor. There were cases when they invaded Iraqi Kurdistan, and the peshmerga was ready to fight with them. One such incident occurred during the civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan (the civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan lasted from May 1994 to 24 in November 1997 of the year. The Turks launched an invasion of 1997 in the year. - IEE). Now it’s impossible even to assume that the Turks will invade Iraqi Kurdistan is impossible, since Ankara and I have warm relations. As for the Syrian Kurds, it is possible that they are ready to fight the Turkish military, but only if the Turks themselves attack them. ATS does not pose a danger to Turkey, although it maintains relations with the PKK, so the Turks do not need to seriously attack them. It seems to me that even in the event of an invasion of the Turkish army, clashes between the Turks and the Syrian Kurds will be sporadic.

- Do you think the Turks are carrying out plans for the occupation of some part of Syrian territory?

- Ankara considers Northern Syria a zone of its geopolitical interests.

- This is due to the fact that there are densely Turkmen?

- In fact, this is just an excuse, there are not so many Turkmen there. For example, earlier the Turks stated that a million Turkmen live in Iraqi Kurdistan, in fact they counted only a few thousand. I think that in Syria the Turkmen population is also insignificant. But the Sunni Arabs who live here, in a large number of people, treat the Turks as if they were their co-religionists. The Turks supply the Sunni so-called moderate opposition with weapons and ammunition. Frankly, these moderates are no different from the radicals. Of course, you can isolate from this mass some groups that do not suffer from the Islamists, but simply are the forces of local self-defense, by the way, the Kurds are cooperating with them. But you know, these groups are very weak and can do little to help in a decisive fight against IS.

- Tell us about the features of combat training peshmerga and ATS. Who trains them, how does it teach, how effectively does the Kurdish militia fight?

- If we look at the overall picture, it is clear that it was the Kurds, both Iraqi and Syrian, who achieved the greatest success in the war with the IG. The Syrian government forces are less successful in this struggle, and the Iraqi army is at its worst. In Iraq, the Kurdish militia entrenched on the Dahuk-Erbil line. The Peshmerga is successfully advancing to the cities of Shengal and Khavija, Mosul is surrounded.

Kirkuk in our hands. At the same time, the Peshmerga continues to advance.

Syrian Kurds are also moving forward, not as fast as we, but still. The city of Kamyshlo has long been in their hands, Kobani released. Now they moved up to Azaz. There used to be three disparate territories that were controlled by Syrian Kurds, now the two eastern sites are combined into a large area, from where the militia continues to advance towards Aleppo.

The Peshmerga will continue to advance to the main bed of the Tigris River to the west, to the south to the line of Mount Hamrina — these are all Kurdish lands, and we want to regain them. For example, Tigris divides Mosul into eastern and western parts, and so the eastern half of Mosul is Kurdish. There will be no further attack on these historic borders of the Peshmerga, we don’t want animosity between us and the Sunni Arabs and don’t lay claim to their lands. If the Peshmerga invades the territory of the Sunni Arab tribes, it will meet there with desperate, determined resistance.

Syrian Kurds are also planning to attack in order to lift the blockade from the western sector called Afrin.

The tactics of the Peshmerga and Syrian militia are no longer partisan, despite the fact that these formations cannot yet be called a regular army. There are two military academies in Iraqi Kurdistan, where command personnel are trained in the cities of Tahoe and Kalacholan, near Sulemaniyah. The Peshmerga, as an active armed force, distinct from the partisan formations, has been operating since the 1991 year. When there was a danger of expansion by the IG, these forces were not enough. A new slogan was issued, calling on the population to go to war and protect their homeland and, if necessary, die for it. The new militia was formed from volunteers, based on the Kurdish military traditions, but this is not enough for a modern war. We turned to Western military experts, who took upon themselves the training of our soldiers and the training of units in modern battle tactics. In addition to the Americans, military instructors from Germany, Italy, Canada and other countries participate in the training of our militias.

ABOUT POSSIBLE SECTION OF SYRIA

- Do Syrian Kurds plan to become independent from Damascus?

- It all depends on the situation that will develop as a result of the development of military operations. Of course, the Kurds want to self-determination, they want to create their own state, but the desired is not always achievable. We are thinking about the possibility of uniting Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan. There are publications in the Western press, which offer maps showing the results of a possible separation of Syria and Iraq. After all, not only the Kurds tend to unite. Syrian and Iraqi Sunni Arabs are also not averse to creating their own united independent state. The fact is that in the days of the Ottoman Empire, the borders did not divide the Kurdish people or, say, the Sunni Arabs who inhabited the upper part of the interfluve of the Euphrates and Tigris. The borders of Syria and Iraq, carried out under the Treaty of Sevres, cut the territories inhabited by Sunni Arabs and Kurds, without taking into account the interests of these peoples.

(According to the results of the First World War, in which the Ottoman Empire fought on the German side and was defeated, among other treaties the Treaty of Sevres was signed in 1920, in the city of Sevres, near Paris. It was an agreement on the division of the Ottoman Empire, which left only a small part territory, the northern half of the modern Central Anatolian region and the western half of the current Black Sea region of Turkey. The remaining vast lands were given under the protectorate of the victorious countries of Great Britain, . Uu, Italy, the United States on the Treaty of Lausanne 1922 years were defined modern borders of Turkey, Syria became a French mandated territory, and Iraq came under the protectorate of London, the independence of these countries acquired after the Second World War -.. IEE).

Therefore, it is highly likely that in the event of the division of Syria and Iraq, the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds will create a united independent state. The same state is likely to be proclaimed by Sunni Arabs, now living in the adjacent territories of Syria and Iraq. They have one religion, some cultural values ​​and traditions, one language.

So the territories that are now occupied by the IG can be further given to the independent state of the Sunnis, by the way, this is achieved by the Sunni countries of the Persian Gulf.

- What nations of modern Syria can create independent states in the event of its collapse?

- Now the Kurds have declared the creation of autonomy, but so far as part of Syria. Maybe Syria will become a federation or a confederation, then the Kurds will continue to be part of it as an autonomy. But in the event of the collapse of Syria, they will seek to unite with Iraqi Kurdistan. Of course, in this case Alavistan will stand out, these are coastal and western territories, which are mainly inhabited by Alawite. Undoubtedly, the Druze will strive to create their own independent state, and this is the south-western lands of modern Syria. This ethnic group is supported by Israel and Jordan. For Jerusalem and Amman, the state of Druze is necessary to ensure the security of borders with problem areas, which are still part of Syria. The Israeli Defense Minister recently suggested a possible division of Syria. I will tell you an interesting fact, which very few people know. Druzes by origin are also Kurds, but they have identified themselves on the basis of a religious community. At the time of Hafez Asad, the Druze occupied high posts in the Syrian army. Now some tribes support his son, but mostly Druze tend to autonomy and neutrality. In Syria, there are still Armenians, Assyrians and Circassians, now they support the Assad regime or are fighting against jihadists within the local self-defense forces, but they do not claim to create their autonomies.

ON POSSIBLE FOREIGN INTERVENTION AGAINST SYRIA


- If Turkey and Saudi Arabia still decide on a land invasion of Syria, what could this lead to?

“If they invade the lands of the Sunnis, they have the opportunity to conduct the invasion quite successfully, so they may be perceived as allies.” In the territories of the Alawites or the Kurds, they will have to fight seriously, practically not counting on success. But in the first case, they will practically accomplish the task of dividing Syria. Again, there are many risks in this option. Such an invasion will not remain without the reaction of the Russian military, unless there is a preliminary agreement on it. According to Euronews, such an invasion could lead to a third world war. I have no idea how such Ankara and Riyadh can do this without the consent of other participants in the war. Well, of course, the coalition forces can support them, but there are still Russia and Iran that will be strongly opposed to such actions.

By the way, Saudi Arabia conducts military exercises on the border with Iraq, which is very unhappy with Baghdad. Naturally, the reaction followed, the Iraqi troops are on high alert.

One thing I can say for sure: Turkey and Saudi Arabia, under the pretext of fighting the IG, strive to observe their interests in the region, while they are unlikely to actually fight against the Islamists. It is possible that they simply want to hinder the advancement of real IG opponents deep into Sunni territories. But here I want to make a reservation that I do not have accurate data on the cooperation of Ankara and IG. The only thing I can say for sure: for a long time, Turkey has not actively opposed the IG, which indirectly contributed to its strengthening.

I can’t say anything about the information that Turkey supplies IG with weapons and ammunition. There were only the facts of the supply of weapons of moderate opposition, which then successfully migrated into the hands of the IS soldiers. It is known that the border between Syria and Turkey, where there are no Alawite or Kurdish militia, is practically transparent, of course, it is possible for penetration through both weapons and replenishment in manpower for the IS. The Turkish authorities have repeatedly made a statement that they cannot reliably control the entire border. I don’t try to judge how sincerely Ankara made these statements. In the Russian media there have been many reports that Turkey buys oil from the IG. And here it is impossible to say anything unequivocally, this oil passes through many intermediaries, so the end customer may not know whose oil it really is. We were also accused that the IS through our country supplies oil to Turkey, but this is really not the case. Iraqi Kurds supply their oil to Turkey, the oil pipeline in this direction is only one and its capacity is not enough. And oil revenue for Kurdistan is very important, so we use motor transport for these purposes and in very large quantities.

- If Turkey invades Syria, how will the Syrian Kurds behave?

- It seems to me, despite Ankara’s strained, almost hostile relations with the Syrian Kurds, the latter will fight with the Turks only as a last resort, with an urgent need to defend their territories. On the part of Iraqi Kurdistan in the event of the start of hostilities between the ATS and Turkish troops, military support is possible, but only in the sense that we will help in the fight against IS, so that our Syrian brothers do not have to fight on two fronts. But against Turkey, the militia of Iraqi Kurdistan is unlikely to start military actions, it is contrary to our interests at the moment. Imagine what will happen if we enter the war with Turkey, the whole region will be in flames of a fierce war, and the Kurdish militia is clearly inferior to the Turkish army. As a result of this war, we risk losing everything we have achieved lately. Here, a simple political interest, it is better to lose part than all that you have. Another thing is Turkish Kurds, they will almost certainly start action, because they have nothing to lose. But I would like to stress once again that Iraqi Kurdistan does not intend to fight against Turkey.

- How do you assess the Turkish army in its current state?

- The Turkish army has recently been undoubtedly one of the strongest not only in the region, but also in a wider area, including the Transcaucasus, Central Asia, and the Middle East. Among the NATO countries, this army was at the forefront. In general, it remained so, taking into account one fact: the army was the leading political force in Turkey itself, but it was, its significance was even stated in the Turkish Constitution, the military had the constitutional right in the event of a political crisis to take power for a short time . Erdogan, as is known, deprived the military of former political influence, carried out purges in the army, many high-ranking military commanders turned out to be behind bars. I doubt that the military is so easy to forget. In addition, the elimination of part of the senior officers did not pass without a trace and, of course, weakened the armed forces of the country to some extent.
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  1. MASK
    MASK 27 February 2016 06: 21
    +2
    So here is Erdogan! This is for you downed Su-24 .. And this is just the beginning!
    1. Sensatus
      Sensatus 27 February 2016 06: 37
      20
      Kurds are the second largest nation after the Russians, divided into several states. And combining them into one can only be welcomed, in my opinion. Like the unification of the Russian people.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 27 February 2016 09: 57
        +6
        Did the Kurds have a state in general? Kurdistan is only the territory of their promise. Kurds lived together with Armenians, Turks, Syrians and other neighboring tribes. They quickly multiplied and made up the majority. For centuries, they have been cutting neighbors, and those of them. Amazing people! Once they have maintained their identity, the mind is incomprehensible. If Assad helps in the liberation of Syria, then they deserve their autonomy. Maybe from here Kurdistan will begin as a state. But only whether Iran, Turkey and Iraq need this is a big question.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 27 February 2016 11: 03
          +4
          The Kurds never had their own state. Not fused. They did not survive tribal strife. And then the British cunningly cut the border. For centuries, the conflict in the Middle East has been planned.
          The creation of the Kurdish state would be nice if this happens on Turkish territory and will shorten Erdogan. But about the unification of all Kurds, the big question. Not the fact that this will benefit the region and our allies there.
          The Americans are not in vain courting them, they are clearly preparing an alternative to Turkey and an instrument of pressure on Iran and Syria.
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 27 February 2016 15: 47
            +3
            I agree with everything! Not quite only because of this (I understand that this is "not quite"):
            The Kurds never had their own state.
            Kurdistan as an independent state was recognized by the international community on August 10, 1920, within the boundaries established by the World Arbitration Court.
            Kurdish state education exists only in Iraqi Kurdistan. In addition, in the 1920s. on the territory of Turkish Kurdistan for 3 years there was a self-proclaimed Ararat Kurdish Republic. In the years 1923-1929. on the territory of Azerbaijan (the so-called “Lachin corridor” with its center in the city of Lachin, between Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia) there was a Kurdistan district, in 1930 - the Kurdistan district (Kurdistan district). In 1946, the Mehabad Republic was proclaimed in the territory of Iranian Kurdistan for a short time. Among the Kurds, the idea of ​​creating a “Greater Kurdistan”, that is, an independent state throughout the ethnic territory of Kurdistan, is very popular, and as a first step, giving the rest of Kurdistan the same status as Iraqi Kurdistan that enjoys wide autonomy.
            Despite the absence of a state, large media holdings are at the disposal of the Kurds. To date, the Kurds have more than a dozen satellite TV channels, such as: Rozh TV, MMS, Nauroz TV, Komala TV, Nauroz, Kurdistan TV, KurdSAT, Gali Kurdistan, Zagros TV, Tishk TV, Kurd 1, Sterk TV, Nucha TV and others.
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah 27 February 2016 18: 33
          +1
          But only whether Iran, Turkey and Iraq need this is a big question.


          The only question is who will sacrifice their territory for the sake of Kurdistan. It can take place only during the extensive war in the BV, with the blessing of the leading powers of the world. But in any case, the creation of Kurdistan is equal to the collapse of Turkey. Today it is unlikely. But tomorrow, who knows.
      3. padded jacket
        padded jacket 27 February 2016 11: 54
        +4
        Quote: Sensatus
        Kurds are the second largest nation after the Russians, divided into several states. And combining them into one can only be welcomed, in my opinion.

        If peacefully, then - yes, and if by military means - this is a new big and bloody war. And if, for example, in Syria and Iraq, the Kurds achieved great autonomy, for example, Iran and Turkey are unlikely to sacrifice their territory and part of their sovereignty. So far only wide autonomy is possible, and even then only in Syria and Iraq.
      4. sherp2015
        sherp2015 27 February 2016 17: 03
        0
        Quote: Sensatus
        Kurds are the second largest nation after the Russians, divided into several states. And combining them into one can only be welcomed, in my opinion. Like the unification of the Russian people.


        If the Kurds will cooperate with Russia, then why not help them create their own state ... Especially now at such a time))
      5. pine tree
        pine tree 28 February 2016 01: 06
        0
        This is a good argument!
      6. Raptor_RB
        Raptor_RB 28 February 2016 10: 20
        0
        If the Kurdish state can be created, then we will become one of its most important allies, with the prospect of becoming the main military, political and economic partner. Thus, in this extremely important region, we will have a completely clear new center of influence, very powerful and friendly. If not to say - the center of the projection of force. So to unite the Kurds into a single state, everything possible must be done!
    2. afrikanez
      afrikanez 27 February 2016 06: 59
      +2
      As the saying goes: Here’s your grandmother and St. George’s Day! Finished demoniac. angry
    3. The black
      The black 27 February 2016 07: 24
      +9
      It is obvious that tens of millions of Kurds, scattered across Syria, Iraq, Iran and, above all, Turkey, have got a real chance of independence. Erdogan welcomed the "Arab spring", but does not want it at home. He is not ready to follow the Iraqi precedent - the creation of a semi-state entity - Iraqi Kurdistan. Erdogan's donkey stubbornness and his imperial ambitions led to the fact that he lost an ally in the person of Assad, with whom he always found a common language on the Kurdish issue. Simply put, the states have put Erdogan on his ass; now he will not be able to implement his ideas. But Kurdistan - to be. If before the downed SU Russia in general tried not to get involved in this conflict, now I think it will definitely support the Kurds. So, really
      this is just the beginning!
    4. akribos
      akribos 27 February 2016 11: 01
      +5
      I see, many did not fully read the article, Erdogan, these Iraqi Kurds support him, judging by the article.
      1. 72jora72
        72jora72 27 February 2016 15: 08
        +1
        I see, many did not fully read the article, Erdogan, these Iraqi Kurds support him, judging by the article.
        And not surprisingly, the so-called "president" of Kurdistan, Barzani, is kissing on the gums with Erdogan, and Turkey is funding Iraqi Kurds and arms.
        Pi, Si. And the Iraqi Kurds have no warm feelings for Syria as such, and the Syrian Kurds in particular, have none.
    5. EFA
      EFA 27 February 2016 14: 32
      +5
      The interview said that ONLY Turkish Kurds will clearly fight against Turkey, Iraqi Kurds are cooperating with Turkey, even the figure of 12 billion USD annually is announced.

      I would not flatter myself at the expense of the Kurdish united front against the intervention of the Arab coalition or its individual members in Syria.

      And after reading the interview, I got a completely different impression, there is nothing to rejoice at, because after the end of the war or the "victory" over the igil, the division of territories will begin, which will most likely be the beginning of a new war, or several major regional conflicts.

      Judging by the interviews, even the Kurds now have no unity in their goals, and even less so in the methods of achieving these goals. The ambitions of the leaders of various Kurdish groups should also be taken into account.

      In the interview, there are words about a possible war between the Iraqi Kurds and Turkey: "it is better to lose a part than to lose everything." And in my opinion, this means that the Iraqi Kurds will simply merge the Syrian and Turkish Kurds if the Turks press them too hard. In fact, in the interview it was stated directly that help in the event of an attack by Turkey on the Syrian Kurds can not be expected.

      So it’s too early to rejoice for the Kurds, this is also another bvnka with snakes and scorpions.
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  3. venaya
    venaya 27 February 2016 06: 30
    +6
    we will talk about the struggle of the Kurdish militia, which is fighting more effectively than the troops of Iraq and Bashar al-Assad

    The Kurdish militia is ethnically monolithic, which cannot be said about the troops of Iraq or the troops of Bashar al-Assad, this is one of the reasons. A hundred-year-old desire to have any form of independence has accustomed the Kurds to more thoughtful actions, hence their difference from the rest of the combatants also comes from.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2016 06: 31
    0
    “Kurdistan has a more than sustainable future,” the NSN comments on the situation. President of the Institute for Middle East Evgeny Satanovsky. - Firstly, they have enormous reserves of gas and oil, which are quite easily removed through Turkish territory to the European market. Secondly, actually, the state was promised the Kurds almost a hundred years ago by the League of Nations. And in this regard, the Kurds have every reason to say that they were finally, with a great delay, given the promise. Their only problem is to negotiate with the Turks. But, of course, they will agree on the transit of hydrocarbons. Where will they go ?! ”
    1. Hello
      Hello 27 February 2016 07: 27
      +5
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      “Kurdistan has a more than sustainable future,” the NSN comments on the situation. President of the Institute for Middle East Evgeny Satanovsky. - Firstly, they have enormous reserves of gas and oil, which are quite easily removed through Turkish territory to the European market. Secondly, actually, the state was promised the Kurds almost a hundred years ago by the League of Nations. And in this regard, the Kurds have every reason to say that they were finally, with a great delay, given the promise. Their only problem is to negotiate with the Turks. But, of course, they will agree on the transit of hydrocarbons. Where will they go ?! ”

      Comrade Satanovsky is a little disingenuous that Kurdistan would need to agree with the Persians somehow. I doubt that Iran would gladly give its land to Kurdistan. So be with high probability Iraqi Kurdistan and Syrian-Turkish. Assad, by the way, is also not happy with this happiness. wink
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2016 07: 41
        +3
        Quote: Hello
        Assad, by the way, is also not happy with this happiness.

        Assad will have to swallow, because it is better than what it is now.
        1. Hello
          Hello 27 February 2016 08: 44
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Assad will have to swallow, because it is better than what it is now.

          It depends on whom he listens more, if it’s possible he will swallow you, but if the Persians will pull the rubber. Iran doesn’t need such an undesirable precedent, they are confident that it is possible to defeat Kurdish independence wink
          1. andj61
            andj61 27 February 2016 09: 26
            +5
            Quote: Hello
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Assad will have to swallow, because it is better than what it is now.

            It depends on whom he listens more, if it’s possible he will swallow you, but if the Persians will pull the rubber. Iran doesn’t need such an undesirable precedent, they are confident that it is possible to defeat Kurdish independence wink

            If the Kurds still had common interests .. what
            And then Iranian Kurds are largely Shiites, and they don’t find a common language with Iraqi. And the Iraqi Kurds of Barzani and the Turkish Kurds have too different interests: Iraqi cooperate with the Turks, and the Turkish are very much at war with them. In general, the Kurdish problem blows up the Near and Middle East, from Syria to Iran. hi
      2. Professor
        Professor 27 February 2016 07: 57
        10
        ... and also he does not agree on how the Kurds will seek access to the sea that lies through Latakia.

        Kurdistan and the Armenians are not very happy about the Kurds living in eastern Turkey.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2016 08: 43
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          ... and also he does not agree on how the Kurds will seek access to the sea that lies through Latakia.

          Kurdistan and the Armenians are not very happy about the Kurds living in eastern Turkey.

          Professor, me and you, many may not be happy! Does it bother us? lol
          1. Professor
            Professor 27 February 2016 08: 49
            +6
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Professor, me and you, many may not be happy! Does it bother us?

            Neither my nor your fate depends on the desire of other countries. The Kurds are a completely different matter. On the one hand, Russia wants to annoy Turkey, which so far only gets off with tomatoes, on the other, it does not want to quarrel with Iran or Armenia.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2016 16: 23
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Neither my nor your fate depends on the desire of other countries.

              accepted, but amended is the fate of countries, does not depend on us ...
              Quote: Professor
              On the one hand, Russia wants to annoy Turkey, which so far only gets off with tomatoes, on the other, it does not want to quarrel with Iran or Armenia

              well ... with Armenia, we are unlikely to quarrel, although ... the world is changeable, and with whom to "ally" Iran? with the USA? I don’t think history shows, it’s not worth it. But now, impossible things, it would seem, are becoming reality, so you should not renounce ... hi
              1. Professor
                Professor 27 February 2016 18: 24
                +2
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                well ... we’re unlikely to quarrel with Armenia, although ... the world is changeable,

                I spent my childhood and youth in Armenia. With local relations living in a military town developed in different ways. Nationalism in Armenia rolls over and therefore Armenians there account for more than 98%. In short, from love to hate is one step.

                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                and with whom should Iran "ally"?

                Iran has never allied with anyone. They were always interested only in their own benefit. Today it is profitable for them to "be friends" with Russia, and tomorrow they can be "best friends" even with the USA, even with China.
                1. Andrey Yuryevich
                  Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2016 18: 53
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  I spent my childhood and youth in Armenia. With local relations living in a military town developed in different ways. Nationalism in Armenia rolls over and therefore Armenians there account for more than 98%.
                  Oleg, with all due respect, when was this? the situation has changed, and possible opponents become impossible partners. (I'm certainly overly optimistic) Armenian nationalism to whom? to the Kurds? so there are all sorts of Kurds, like Russians and Jews. to the Russians, did not catch the shadow of hatred or hostility (personal opinion), on the contrary, the most positive thing now. in short, for the Armenians, I’m rather sure than not, but for the Persians ... alas, I’m not putting my extra ruble here, I’m afraid I will be against the army ... for garlic, I would rather believe a Jew than a Persian. ..or even in 1914, immediately after Turkey’s entry into the war The Iranian government issued an official statement of neutrality.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 27 February 2016 19: 21
                    +2
                    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                    Oleg, with all due respect, when was this?

                    98% of the population is Armenians now. Last time I was in Armenia in 2008. Even then, the youth practically did not speak Russian. Russian communities living in Armenia from the time of Catherine almost ceased to exist ...

                    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                    nationalism of Armenians to whom?

                    To all. And to you as well.
                    Alright, enough about that.

                    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                    but for the Persians ... alas, yes, I won’t put my extra ruble here, I’m afraid I’ll be against the army ... for garlic

                    Not yet evening. You have to divide the Caspian.

                    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                    I would rather believe a Jew than a Persian ...

                    Do not believe the Jews. Cheat. They are. Here is an example of this:
                    1. Andrey Yuryevich
                      Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2016 19: 42
                      +1
                      [Quote]
                      To all. And to you as well.
                      Ok, enough about that. [/ Quote as you wish, but I have a different opinion.
                      [quote] It's not evening yet. You have to divide the Caspian. [/ Quote]shared with equals, not the case ...[quote] Do not believe the Jews. Cheat. They are. [/ Quote] Well, what can I say ...,advice - it always has a price ... even if you follow it ... wink
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 27 February 2016 19: 49
                        +1
                        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                        shared with equals, not the case ...

                        That's why they have not yet divided. Forces are gaining.

                        All the best to you. hi
                    2. andj61
                      andj61 27 February 2016 20: 58
                      +2
                      Quote: Professor
                      Not yet evening. You have to divide the Caspian.

                      Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan have long agreed on a partition. Turkmenistan and Iran expect to get more. But really for the last two it is only a desire, but not reality ...
                      Quote: Professor
                      Do not believe the Jews. Cheat. They are. Here is an example of this:

                      And what does Mikhail Mil have to do with it? Is that him? Man made wonderful helicopters - whom did he deceive? what
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2016 08: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: andj61
                        Turkmenistan and Iran expect to get more. But really for the last two it is only a desire, but not reality ...

                        Not yet evening. The Islamic state of Iran will strengthen militarily and economically and will speak differently.

                        Quote: andj61
                        And what does Mikhail Mil have to do with it? Is that him? Man made wonderful helicopters - whom did he deceive?

                        Here I am about this, then they say "I would rather believe a Jew than a Persian ..."

                        Quote: Barnaul, Altai
                        Dear Professor, Jews are sentenced to the Holocaust. The state of Israel will not be on the map in a few years.

                        For the 7th decade we have been hearing this song. Change the plate.

                        Quote: vyinemeynen
                        what for show off? Getting ready to shoot down?

                        This is just not show off. We are always ready to bring down the violator of our state border. Ask the Syrian Su-24 pilot. He will confirm. hi
                    3. Karlos
                      Karlos 28 February 2016 18: 56
                      +2
                      Professor, you are cunning or telling lies, the youth in Armenia speaks Russian not bad, even, I would say, good about the Russian community, that is, Molokans, they left back in Soviet times, for environmental reasons, and about nationalism, well, you know better, there even treated the Kurds normally, given the past, you probably have a personal dislike for them.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 28 February 2016 19: 20
                        +2
                        Quote: Karlos
                        Professor, you are cunning or telling lies, the youth in Armenia speaks Russian is not bad, even, I would say, good

                        Bad and even very bad. In Yerevan, even more or less, in Gyumri it is already very bad, and in small towns in general a paragraph.

                        Quote: Karlos
                        about the Russian community, that is, a Molokan, they left back in Soviet times, for environmental reasons

                        The Molokans, the Dukhobors did not leave at all because of the economy. They are used to living in harsh conditions. They left for completely different reasons.

                        Quote: Karlos
                        and as for nationalism, well, you know better, there even treated the Kurds normally, given the past, you probably have a personal dislike of them.

                        Probably more visible. In Armenia there were not only Azerbaijani villages, but also entire Azerbaijani regions. How many Azerbaijanis are there in Armenia now? The Armenians in Azerbaijan are 120 306 (2011). There are only 2162 Kurds in Armenia (2011), or 0,07% of the population of Armenia. Kurds in Armenia live in their villages mainly by subsistence farming. There are about 6000 Kurds in Azerbaijan. hi

                        PS
                        There is no personal hostility towards either one or the other.

                        PPS
                        In 1987-1994, 200 thousand refugees from Armenia arrived in Azerbaijan, including 170 thousand Azerbaijanis and about 20 thousand Kurds and other nations.
        2. andj61
          andj61 27 February 2016 09: 31
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          ... and also he does not agree on how the Kurds will seek access to the sea that lies through Latakia.

          Kurdistan and the Armenians are not very happy about the Kurds living in eastern Turkey.

          Not only Kurds are seeking access to the sea, but also Sunnis. But in fact, the Alawites actually live on the coast.
          The Armenians will certainly not be happy about Kurdistan. But if Turkey begins to crumble into parts, then the Armenians, too, quite possibly, will declare their interests - both about access to the sea (where else!), And about Mount Ararat, "temporarily located in the territory occupied by Turkey" (this is a phrase one Armenian guide back in the 80s). bully hi
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 27 February 2016 20: 03
            +2
            Quote: andj61
            "temporarily located in the territory occupied by Turkey"


            probably either you forgot a little, or the guide speaking a stranger language, confused word order - it will be correct:

            "located on the territory temporarily occupied by Turkey "
            Armenians are cunning and stubborn people, and the warriors are very good - I won’t be surprised if they achieve their goal. Well, if they begin to divide Turkey, they will not remain without a share!
            1. andj61
              andj61 27 February 2016 21: 02
              +1
              Quote: Weyland
              probably, either you forgot a little, or the guide, speaking in a foreign language, mixed up the word order - it will be correct:

              "located in the territory temporarily occupied by Turkey"

              No - and he spoke Russian very well - as well as French, and he said exactly this: "And now you can see the symbol of Armenia - Mount Big Ararat, temporarily located in the territory occupied by Turkey." wink
              And then we all appreciated SUCH humor .. fellow
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        4. siberalt
          siberalt 27 February 2016 11: 03
          +2
          The Kurds had different relations with the Armenians. Did not help. Can Kurds become Jews and populate them with Palestine laughing How will Israel look at this?
          1. Professor
            Professor 27 February 2016 12: 57
            +6
            Quote: siberalt
            The Kurds had different relations with the Armenians. Did not help. Can Kurds become Jews and populate them with Palestine How will Israel look at this?

            1. In Israel, there are many immigrants from Kurdistan.
            2. According to the laws of Israel, anyone who converted to Judaism has the right to repatriation.

            Quote: MASK
            If it weren’t for your war, you would be silent just ...

            This is not our war, but this does not mean that we are not interested in what is happening in the border state.

            Quote: MASK
            Hit Russia again in the back with the wrong hands ..?

            You are a young man, beguiled. The Turks shot down your dryer, and we have not shot down your planes violating our airspace.
            1. vyinemeynen
              vyinemeynen 28 February 2016 03: 16
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              until they shot down.

              what for show off? Getting ready to shoot down?
              As far as I am familiar with Leningradskaya Street, under tomatoes, Putin did not mean tomatoes at all.
              Do they also have extra in Israel?
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 February 2016 06: 41
    +4
    Erdogan, as you know, deprived the military of its former political influence, carried out purges in the army, many high-ranking military leaders were imprisoned. I doubt that the military has so easily forgotten it.

    The chief ottoman will remember all his sins. And the military is a must. And he will run if he has time!
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 February 2016 06: 48
    +4
    fighting more effectively than Iraqi troops

    I completely agree with this part. Regarding the army of Syria, it would be more tactful to write that they have been fighting effectively recently. But Erdogan will be hurt by repressions against his military. and the Kurds will never forget the attempt to destroy them.
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 27 February 2016 06: 52
    +1
    One circumstance pleases:
    the independence of some becomes a reality as well as the isolation of others.
    Here it is a golden solution and the use of folk wisdom:
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
    good
    1. square
      square 27 February 2016 08: 55
      +4
      And if he can simultaneously become the enemy of your friend? With Iran and Syria, everything is not so clear. We cannot change friends, like gloves. We are not Americans. We were given the point of view of one part of the Kurdish people. It would be interesting what the Iranian and Syrian Kurds think and strive for. Moreover, from themselves, and not from representatives of Iraqi. The interlocutor of the author of the article is also a politician, they work with everyone and do not want to quarrel with anyone, moreover, they interact simultaneously with direct antipodes. I don’t know, I put the article a plus for informational content, but the aftertaste is somewhat ambiguous. It seems that they gave me a look at the picture from one angle, from where it is not visible.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 27 February 2016 16: 56
        +1
        The article is really interesting. Which, as expected, over the years of separation, the Kurds are no longer one nation. Therefore, there will be no single Kurdistan. Kurdish politicians themselves will take care of this. Allies to us can only be Syrian, and even then with reservations.
  8. Svetoch
    Svetoch 27 February 2016 06: 56
    +3
    Well, so many people like the Kurds have long been time to have their own state. I think the biggest problem the Kurds have and will be with the Turks. I wonder how Turkey will behave if Iraqi Kurdistan gets independence.
  9. MASK
    MASK 27 February 2016 07: 00
    +3
    In Russia, the Kurdish diaspora is quite numerous and influential (without show-offs ..) They just don’t like to make loud statements and stupid demonstrations .. And they work for the future! Thanks to Russia, their century-old dream can come true .. I am for the Kurds with all my heart (they are real warriors)!
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 27 February 2016 17: 01
      +1
      Emotions, nothing more. Kurds participated in the Armenian Genocide. Ah, this is a minus that you won’t erase so easily. Real defenseless soldiers do not cut.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 28 February 2016 00: 24
      +1
      Quote: MASK
      In Russia, the Kurdish diaspora is quite numerous and influential (without show-offs ..) They just don’t like to make loud statements and stupid demonstrations .. And they work for the future! Thanks to Russia, their century-old dream can come true .. I am for the Kurds with all my heart (they are real warriors)!

      One of the representatives of ethnic Kurds was the late thief in law Ded Hassan, who, according to some reports, provided all possible assistance to Turkish Kurds.
  10. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 27 February 2016 07: 01
    10
    I think Ararat needs to be returned to the Armenians. Kurds can be negotiated.
    1. MASK
      MASK 27 February 2016 07: 26
      +1
      Quote: armored optimist
      I think Ararat needs to be returned to the Armenians. Kurds can be negotiated.

      Great idea! (only quietly so far ..))))
    2. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 07: 27
      +5
      Quote: armored optimist
      I think Ararat needs to be returned to the Armenians. Kurds can be negotiated.

      As well as Kars and Erzurum.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 27 February 2016 11: 11
        0
        Yeah. Then Aleppo and Latakia at the same time. Yes, only the Armenian population to settle is not enough laughing Again with birth rate you can’t do without Kurds.
  11. Blondy
    Blondy 27 February 2016 07: 28
    +1
    Kurdistan really loomed independence

    Well, ears hung - this is the wishlist of the party leader. Independence on a silver platter is not even elevated by large uncles from across the ocean. The Iraqi Kurds are not ready, the Turkish have nothing to lose, and you need to ask Assad about the Syrian Kurds.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 27 February 2016 17: 06
      0
      Despite the fact that they are not going to fight with the Turks for the sake of their brothers. Slime.
  12. PKK
    PKK 27 February 2016 07: 31
    +1
    A smart leader can unite the Kurds, and if they stop listening to the Americans, they can create their own Country.
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 27 February 2016 07: 32
    +1
    Given the tolerance of the Kurds and the realization that they are one people .. I believe there is every reason that Kurdistan will eventually arise ..
  14. grandson of the hero
    grandson of the hero 27 February 2016 07: 40
    +6
    And if this (at least to some extent) is the representative of the Kurds, I would be very careful in friendship with these guys on the basis of the heard statements.
    Well, take an interest in history. Not so long ago, by and large. One hundred years in total. The Armenians and the Russian army remember with whose hands the Turks fought and who cut out entire settlements.
    But in general, they need oil and ways to sell it. Spit on the Kurds of Syria and Turkey with a high bell tower (or minaret). Only money, nothing personal, Kurdish brothers.
    So far, it seems, there are common goals. Separate common goals. But then what? Soup with a cat?
  15. grandson of the hero
    grandson of the hero 27 February 2016 07: 56
    +2
    In general, there is a very good example about this, and throughout the entire situation: the well-known film "White Sun of the Desert" and the famous saying: "the East is a delicate matter ..." Just about, what is the subtlety? He overwhelmed the entire gang-fraternity, both local and assorted mercenaries, women only left (the liberated women of the east). That's the subtlety!
    Do you speak peacocks? Oh!
    I just gave an example, consider expressed your point of view.
  16. bad
    bad 27 February 2016 08: 12
    +4
    Kurdistan really loomed independence
    .. I don’t know what the Kurds are looming, but if they have any independence, it’s only in addition to the mattress bases (in vain, why are the mattresses wet with nostrils there?) ..and this is not independence ..imho .. hi
  17. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 27 February 2016 08: 30
    12
    I would not be very happy for the Kurds, they are not friends to us, but simply temporary allies. Judging by the interview, the Kurds are not very friendly with each other.
  18. parafoiler
    parafoiler 27 February 2016 08: 33
    +2
    Exactly, it is not yet known how the Kurds will prove themselves in the future. They are not easy guys. Maybe that's why they were not given independence because it would not bring anything good to neighboring countries. God grant that I was wrong ...
  19. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 27 February 2016 09: 06
    +4
    ///..to the Syrian Kurds, the latter will engage in battle with the Turks only as a last resort, with an urgent need to defend their territories.//
    /// ,, But against Turkey, the militia of Iraqi Kurdistan is unlikely to start military operations, ///
    ///..that the Turks will invade Iraqi Kurdistan is impossible, since we have warm relations with Ankara. As for the Syrian Kurds, it is possible that they are ready to engage in battle with the Turkish military, but only if the Turks themselves attack them .///
    Something, I did not understand such Kurdish Leaders: There are those Kurds, we are those ... who are in the woods, who are wood and warm, and with Ankara, and with America, and with Russia, and Assad .... they are so fluffy , just horror .. Once with everyone, then there is nobody ... they are leading their game, Trust 0. one calculation.
  20. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 27 February 2016 09: 16
    +4
    After reading first-hand information about the problems of the Kurds, the following became clear. This people lives in different states, has religious differences and differently refers to the countries of their location. There is no general idea that could unite the Kurdish people into a single nation. And this means that for the formation of a common state they have a long way to go. If this process ever begins, then the struggle for power of various groups in the absence of a universally recognized national leader will follow. Problems, problems and problems ... Everything is the same as in the life of every person. And apparently, its meaning lies in the solution of such problems ...
  21. Professor
    Professor 27 February 2016 09: 48
    +2
    I liked the Panzerfaust 3 from the German Voentorg. They say they acquired 200 launchers and 2500 rounds to them. bully
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 February 2016 10: 02
      -3
      When you start delivering them to Spikes.
      1. Professor
        Professor 27 February 2016 10: 03
        +4
        We are not supplying weapons to anyone in Syria. This is not our war.
        1. MASK
          MASK 27 February 2016 10: 18
          0
          Quote: Professor
          We are not supplying weapons to anyone in Syria. This is not our war.

          If it weren’t for your war, you would have been silent just ... The essence of this massacre, to put BV cancer! Syria and Iran are against .. and Russia got involved at the last moment (realizing that it will be the next ..) But it’s very difficult to put you in (Fashington. And that’s not the point ..) Are you really all that bored and boring in Israel .. (always whining and hinting ..))) In the back again with the wrong hands, hit Russia ..?
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 27 February 2016 12: 13
            +5
            Quote: MASK
            MASK RU Today, 10:18 ↑

            Quote: Professor
            We are not supplying weapons to anyone in Syria. This is not our war.


            If it weren’t for your war, you would have been silent just ... The essence of this massacre, to put BV cancer! Syria and Iran are against .. and Russia got involved at the last moment (realizing that it will be next ..)

            Israel is 100% one of those who created and set the terrorists Daesh (IS) of Al-Nusra on Iraq and Syria, this state dreams (together with the USA) only one way to destroy and ultimately "destroy" our country as the main opponent of Washington and Tel -Aviva and along with Russia and all others who do not agree with the opinion of the United States and Israel.
            Israel made a choice: Assad-Tehran-Moscow block is more dangerous than ISIS
            Five years after the outbreak of the civil war in Syria, Israel finally decided on and chose the side in this conflict, deciding that the main threat was not Islamic radical Islam, but the stabilization of Assad’s power in alliance with Iran and Hezbollah, an informed military observer said Ediot Ahronot ”Ron Ben-Ishay from the words“ a very high-ranking source ”in the command of the IDF.
            http://news.israelinfo.co.il/politics/60609

            And the creation of a broad bloc to combat terrorism and the ever-growing US conceit about its exclusivity (remember Hitler's words about the German super-race or the Jews with their "God's chosenness") is quite possible.
            Iran considers it possible to create an alliance with Russia, Syria and Hezbollah
            Iran, Russia and Hezbollah defend the legitimate rights of the Syrians and protect Syria from terrorists, said the adviser to the Supreme Leader of Iran. According to him, the prerequisites for creating such an alliance have already been prepared.
            http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160203/1369139902.html
  22. Vadim237
    Vadim237 27 February 2016 10: 01
    +2
    It's all fine, of course, that the Kurds are fighting and the Kurds are moving towards independence - but what is happening in Yemen - the Hussites seem to be pushing away, and Alkaida and ISIS are taking over more of the country's territory. with the connivance of Saudi Arabia and friends from the coalition.
  23. atamankko
    atamankko 27 February 2016 10: 27
    +1
    Friends - I don’t know, but temporary allies - I understand.
  24. MASK
    MASK 27 February 2016 10: 38
    0
    I’m for Kurdistan (with the territory of Iraq, Turkey, Syria ..) I’ll come to an agreement! (If the Kurds calm the devils in the BV!)
  25. Winnie76
    Winnie76 27 February 2016 10: 56
    +4
    Uncle Julit. He does not want to quarrel with Turkey. Oil IG can sell, maybe not. They supply weapons - maybe yes, maybe no. Block the border - maybe they can, maybe not
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 27 February 2016 17: 48
      0
      Sell ​​and trade. Politicians m-la.
  26. askort154
    askort154 27 February 2016 11: 15
    +1
    The more you immerse yourself in the Syrian theme, the more you become convinced of the depth of the meaning of the expression: "The East is a delicate matter." It's a spider web.
  27. mayhem
    mayhem 27 February 2016 12: 02
    -1
    it’s time to create a Kurdish state about the Russian one, and soon Iran will begin to bend its fingers with a fan, it needs a counterweight, albeit small, but even better than nothing, we will undermine Turkey and everyone will not be able to joke with Russia!
  28. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 27 February 2016 13: 27
    +2
    WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY? IRAQIAN KURDISTAN? as far as I know, such a country does not exist. It's just the area of ​​residence of Iraqi Kurds. And how can it protect the interests of the Kurds if it says that they have good relations with Turkey at a time when the Turks are destroying their compatriots in Syria and Turkey. In my opinion he’s just a balabol.
  29. Crown
    Crown 27 February 2016 17: 43
    0
    They gave a ticket to the life of the state of Israel, and we will give Kurdistan.
  30. Weyland
    Weyland 27 February 2016 18: 22
    +1
    Now it’s impossible to even assume that the Turks will invade Iraqi Kurdistan, since we have warm relations with Ankara

    Yeah ... We also had a warm relationship with them! am
  31. Des10
    Des10 27 February 2016 19: 03
    +1
    "Islamic State" unites not only Salafis, but also those who are ready to fight against the expansion of the West and Shiites, in whose aggressiveness they are sure. Therefore, we must be aware that a significant part of the Sunni world really supports IS and does so in accordance with their convictions. "
    quite real words, and so on.
  32. Barnaul, Altai
    Barnaul, Altai 27 February 2016 22: 07
    +2
    "Brief translation" of the article:
    1) Until the Turkish Kurds begin to fight the Turks, there WILL BE NO Kurdistan!
    2) Until the Turkish Kurds begin to fight with the Turks - WE, Iraqi Kurds will trade oil with our enemies - the Turks.
    3) We Iraqi Kurds like Khokhly-for the money we will sell our country and compatriots ...


    About the comments PROFESSOR
    "this is not our war, it is not we who knocked your dryer down ..." and so on and so on
    Dear Professor, Jews are sentenced to the Holocaust. The state of Israel will not be on the map in a few years.

    Regarding Kurdistan - he should be after the big batch, which is yet to come.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 28 February 2016 00: 03
      +1
      Jews sentenced to the Holocaust. The state of Israel will not be on the map in a few years.
      Eugene, why are you so tough? Let there be Israel, it doesn’t interfere with Russia, moreover, their Orthodox are so funny! smile
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  33. misterwulf
    misterwulf 28 February 2016 18: 52
    +1
    In general, such a strange Kurd. And views at the level of syncretism: the unification of opposing views through compromise.