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Who stole the stealth

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US court returns to the lawsuit against the Pentagon. Zoltek Corp. accuses the US military as well as its contractor of stealing stealth technology.

In the year of the twentieth anniversary of the filing of the first claim, Zoltek Corp. from St. Louis back to the old case. Rather, the company specializing in the development and study of composite materials, remembered him all this time, but only now she had the opportunity to try again to prove that the Pentagon uses the technology of "stealth", without paying for it. Or, quite simply, by stealing it.

The Court of Appeal decided to return to the Zoltek Corp. lawsuit filed back in March 1996. The court’s statement says that the judge mistakenly declared the Zoltek patent invalid, on the grounds that scientists allegedly and without a patent knew at what temperature the electrical resistance of the carbon fibers changed. We are talking about the technology "stealth", which allows using various materials and in particular carbon fibers to significantly reduce the possibility of radar detection of combat aircraft and other objects.

The Washington Court of Appeals ordered the Federal Claims Court to return to the lawsuit, in which Zoltek claims that the US government is represented by the Department of Defense, and government contractor Lockheed Martin Corp. violated his patents. The first "invisible" F-22 fighter is made of Tyranno carbon fiber, which was developed using Zoltek techniques. The same claims have been made by Zoltek and against Northrop Grumman Corp., which created the first “invisible” B-2 bomber.

The documentation to the Patent Office Zoltek filed, reminiscent of Bloomberg, in 1984 year. The patent dates back to 1988. In the same year, the public for the first time, by the way, was shown a B-2 bomber, in which the revolutionary technology "stealth" was used.

A federal claim court in Washington denied Zoltek a claim because it concerns state security. Based on this law, government contractors are immune from prosecution. Under US law, the lawsuit was initially filed with the US government and only after that was Lockdown redirected.

Since then, the lawsuit Zoltek "roams" between the Claim and Appeals Court, by the way, located in the same building. In 2004, the Claims Court invalidated the Zoltek patent. However, the Court of Appeals overturned this decision based on a letter from 1987 of the year written by an engineer from Northrop Grumman Corp. The author of the letter admitted that he first saw the "invisible" material, as it was developed by Zoltek.

Now the metropolitan judge is once again going to consider a complaint of patent infringement by Zoltek. The Pentagon does not hide its intentions to again resort to the tested protection - the law on state secrets and state security. In 2013, then Air Force Secretary Michael Donley emphasized in a letter to the court that this was a matter of state security and secrets that US enemies could use to create their own invisible aircraft.

It is curious that while the lawsuit was wandering between the Claiming and Appellate Courts, the company Toray Industries Inc. bought Zoltek in 2014 for the 584 million dollars. So, in fact, Japanese businessmen are currently suing the US government.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 February 2016 06: 59
    +4
    The Pentagon does not hide its intentions to resort again to the tried and tested defense - the law on state secrets and state security.

    Unscrew, pentagosh, they are not in the first. Such a nation fellow if they steal it, they don’t confess! bully
    1. Sergey-8848
      Sergey-8848 27 February 2016 07: 11
      +7
      Precisely because this nation can be called a nation of skimmers and lawyers, no one will pay anyone. Only lawyers of both sides will benefit, they just have the freedom to compete. It is because of their fees that the company will go bankrupt, so that from now on it will be discouraging to sue the "pentagon".
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 27 February 2016 10: 52
        +8
        The latest fifth-generation American fighter created using Stealth technology and stuffed with electronics to the eyeballs costs an amazing amount of money ... - Almost like laying a kilometer of asphalt in Moscow.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 27 February 2016 08: 58
      +1
      Of course they will get out. We knew before, but the evidence is a mystery. From the Boeing shot down over Ukraine, they also know who shot down and also a secret.
    3. atos_kin
      atos_kin 27 February 2016 10: 23
      +2
      Such a nation

      What nation? There is no mova, instead of a coat of arms they use a seal, a flag in the colors of the Russian tricolor. No wonder they support hohlopiteks, I suppose they are learning. laughing
      1. rati
        rati 27 February 2016 16: 24
        +3
        The land was stolen from the Indians and they themselves were upekli on the reservation, the blacks are being shot and they do not bear any responsibility, the name "football" was stolen for their game. They cannot do otherwise. Brains like that - inside out.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 27 February 2016 07: 25
    +4
    I remember reading an article about stealth technology. And how it even appeared. By the way, the article was from a Western publication. And it was clearly said that the forerunner of all was the work (the dissertation I don’t remember already) of a Soviet scientist on the scattering of radar rays! It was after reading this Americans began to develop information with their first stealth, the first of which stl Ф-117 hi
    So we can sue the Pentagon too wink
    1. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 27 February 2016 11: 53
      +2
      This scientist is Ufimtsev. The article was published in an open source, unclassified. With the knowledge of the secret services, of course. A scientific article, not a patent, is not patented in the USA. Ufimtsev then dumped in the United States.
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 27 February 2016 16: 27
        +4
        there was not even an article there, but a decent book of the "Radio" publishing house, which the adversaries quickly appreciated, copied and reproduced at home. And then, on the basis of this theory, they began to make F-117 / In the early 90s, Ufimtsev left at the invitation of the United States, where he lectured at some American university. Then he returned to Russia, before that stunned the Americans that all this "invisibility" was not such when using several other technologies for detecting and recognizing an air target. The film on this topic was quite interesting.
      2. rati
        rati 27 February 2016 22: 56
        +3
        So look at the conclusion from the film about stealth technology and about Ufimtsev. The last page was simply removed from the scientific work, where it says "invisibility technology, if possible, then only in a narrow range of radio waves." Therefore, in Yugoslavia, the "cool and invisible" was shot down, because in the old Soviet-made technique it was very visible - "bast shoe on the floor of the screen."
        http://topwar.ru/26667-zoltan-dani-pobeditel-samoleta-nevidimki.html цитата:
        As it was later established, the F-117A was shot down on March 27, 1999, about 40 kilometers from Belgrade, with the 3rd battery of the 250th Air Defense Brigade, which defended the capital. This battery was commanded by Colonel Zolton Dani. The pride of American military aviation was the victim of a S-125 air defense missile system, which was created in the USSR in the late 1950s. So the most famous American plane was shot down over Yugoslavia by the Soviet air defense complex, commanded by an officer who studied at the Minsk Higher Engineering Anti-aircraft Missile School of the Air Defense Forces.
  3. Professor
    Professor 27 February 2016 08: 02
    +9
    Zoltek Corp. ordinary patent trolls. We decided to earn extra money. And as far as I know of such creatures, they will succeed.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 27 February 2016 09: 00
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Zoltek Corp. ordinary patent trolls. We decided to earn extra money. And as far as I know of such creatures, they will succeed.

      Can you describe in a nutshell, otherwise it is not entirely clear?
      1. Professor
        Professor 27 February 2016 09: 36
        11
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Can you describe in a nutshell, otherwise it is not entirely clear?

        The judge decides everything. This is not math. Let's look at both options.
        Why nothing will burn out with the suit:
        1. A patent for physical phenomena is not valid. For example, one cannot patent that water boils at 100 degrees Celsius or at what temperature the electrical resistance of carbon fibers changes.
        2. Northrop Grumman Corp. will show documents subsidized earlier than 1984 showing that she herself led the development of this technology.
        3. The subtlety of patenting is that it is perfectly legal for me to copy a patented product if I do not sell it to anyone else. So to speak for personal use. As far as I know, neither the F-22 nor the B-2 were sold to anyone else. However, the "third" party here can be called the Pentagon.
        4. Americans may refuse to disclose any information whatsoever to a foreign state (Japanese), citing state secrets.
        5. The limitation period for the "crime" has expired.

        Why a lawsuit may burn out:
        1. The plaintiff may push the chronology of filing a patent application and the appearance of the product at the Pentagon.
        2. The most interesting thing. The plaintiff is likely to demand from the court only a temporary ban on the flights of these aircraft "until all the details are clarified." This is exactly what patent trolls do. In this case, the Pentagon will urgently make a "compromise" and pay a large sum.

        PS
        A case from my practice. We make a tool that Western Digital uses to make hard drives. A certain patent troll has registered a patent for one property of our instrument, and in violation of our contract with him. That is, nothing shone against us in court. He sued for "patent infringement" not against us and not even against Western Digital, but against Wall Mart for selling products in which there is a patent infringement. Wall Mart has asked Western Digital that if they do not settle the issue with the plaintiff, then Wall Mart will remove all Western Digital products from its shelves. Well, Western Digital decided that it would be cheaper to pay the troll than to sue him for a couple of years and win a lawsuit.
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 27 February 2016 10: 13
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          The plaintiff is likely to demand from the court only a temporary ban on the flights of these aircraft "until all the details are clarified." This is exactly what patent trolls do. In this case, the Pentagon will urgently make a "compromise" and pay a large sum.

          Get lost ... the charms of the rule of law. But then again, they have been dragging this tyagomotin for a long time, why have they still not demanded to land all the stealth? Probably the judges came across normal?
          1. Professor
            Professor 27 February 2016 12: 51
            +2
            Quote: Mera Joota
            Get lost ... the charms of the rule of law.

            Yes, it’s better than when some chunusha declares: “We know how you got these permits” and using an excavator for your business, without trial or investigation.

            Quote: Mera Joota
            But then again, they have been dragging this tyagomotin for a long time, why have they still not demanded to land all the stealth?

            We do not know all the details, but to look for the decisions of the previous court in scrap.
    2. opus
      opus 3 March 2016 18: 43
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Zoltek Corp. ordinary patent trolls.

      Doubts gnaw me














      carbon fibers under the trade name Panex and oxidized acrylic fiber under the trade name Pyron = all this is Zoltek.

      7 (!) Factories around the world, Principal Subsidiaries: Zoltek Corporation; Zoltek Intermediates Corporation; Zoltek Properties, Inc .; Zoltek Rt. (Hungary).


      Since 1985, Zoltek carbon fibers have been used to make brake pads for airbuses. In addition, at the time of acquisition, Stackpole fibers were close to fulfilling a lucrative contract with NASA Z. selected as a supplier of carbon fibers for rocket nozzles.
  4. crasever
    crasever 27 February 2016 08: 20
    +6
    Who stole, find out. But who shot down - is known. This is Serbian Air Defense Colonel Zoltan Dani.
    1. opus
      opus 3 March 2016 18: 24
      0
      Quote: crasever
      . This is Serbian Air Defense Colonel Zoltan Dani.

      he or not he.
      the Serbs themselves cannot figure it out.
      The S-125 air defense system of the 3rd battery of the 250th Air Defense Brigade was shot down.
      3rd Division under the command of Colonel Zoltan Dani.

      The 250th brigade includes five missile divisions of air defense - three self-propelled divisions of missile systems "Cube" and two divisions of missile systems "Neva".

      In Yugoslavia, the U.S. Air Force lost (according to the Yugoslav Air Force) three F-117 aircraft.
      The first was shot down on March 27 at 20.55 (pilot-captain Ken "Viz" Dvili) at 32 km from Belgrade (near the village of Budanovtsi) by a Yugoslavian MiG-29 fighter (loss confirmed). Probably, during the attack, an OLS was used, because the pilot said that the attack was unexpected (the PDF did not work). While patrolling, the pilot saw an aircraft at a distance of 1,5 km, which was not detected by the onboard radar, and hit the target with the first missile fired.

      Another aircraft of this type, according to the Ministry of Defense of Serbia, was lost on April 5 during the attack of the Tsrevni Kot TV tower (no confirmation).
      May 20, the Serbs reported that over Kosovo Mig-29 (pilot Aliya Arizanov) shot down another F-117 (no evidence).

      Everything is complicated with them.
      But 125 (S-125M1T "Neva") they left and modernized



      The Neva missile system was modernized, thanks to which an increase in the efficiency and economy of the system was achieved and the degree of protection of calculations was significantly increased, primarily due to the DP / P12 digital radar receiver, which made it possible to work from cover 500 meters from the radar itself. A new optoelectronic unit was installed in place of the 9sh33 Karat camera, a new laser rangefinder appeared, as well as the Israeli ATIS thermal imager, automatic target tracking, guidance and fire control systems.
      1. opus
        opus 3 March 2016 18: 32
        0
        nominally:

        Modernization with the help of the French and Philips
        has since 1999 been upgraded to the SNR-125M1T configuration, with a thermal imager and laser rangefinder, and some electronics upgrades like the TVK (television coordinator equipment), and was recently photographed at Jakovo, near Belgrade International Airport.





        -------------------------------------------------- ---

        1. On March 24, 1999, the MiG-29 of the Major Nebojsa Nikolic was shot down in the district of the n.a. Knicanin, Vojvodina Foursome F-16AM Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF). Missile AIM-120. Flying 30 seconds.

        The Americans say on this day two more MiG-29s shot down, but for lack of photo documents and confirmation from the Serbs, only one was shot down from the Dutch.

        2. On March 26, 1999, the MiG-29 of the major Zoran Radosavljevic was shot down over Bosnia in the area of ​​the settlement of Bogatic. Victory is attributed to the F-15C of the 493EFS / 48FW pilot J.Hwang. Missile AIM-120.

        3. On the same day March 26, 1999 MiG-29 Lt.Col. Slobodan Peric was shot down in the area between n.a. Lazarevac and Loznica in Bosnia. Victory is attributed to the same F-15C of 493EFS / 48FW pilot J.Hwang. Missile AIM-120.

        May 4, 4 MiG-1999 Col. Milenko Pavlovic was shot down by an F-29CJ from the 16th EFS 78rd EFS from Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, pilot M.Geczy. Missile AIM-23. The plane crashed in the area of ​​N.P. Valjevo.
        Serbian sources claim that the plane was shot down by its own air defense system Cube.

        etc.
        The losses of the Yugoslav MiG-29s are well documented (the dates, aircraft numbers and the names of the pilots are known): 4 or 5 were shot down by NATO, 2 or 1 were shot down by their own air defense (double digits, because parts of "Arrows", NATO claim 4 MiGs), 1 crashed during a fly-over and 4 were destroyed on the ground. In total, 11 aircraft were lost.


        The situation is controversial.


        1999 year. The war in Yugoslavia. Two Yugoslav MiGs patrol the airspace. While everything is calm, and pilots from nefig do the talking:
        - I bet you knock him down that crow rocket!
        - Yes, you can’t bring it down, it’s too small, it will not take aim.
        - And I’m manually! Bet 200 bucks?
        - Coming!
  5. aba
    aba 27 February 2016 08: 27
    0
    So in fact, Japanese businessmen are now suing the American government.

    Is it not fraught for Japan? All the same, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were in their history.
  6. bad
    bad 27 February 2016 08: 46
    +2
    heh..for mattresses, the theft of technology is profitable and not punishable .. they stole a Mauser charging system from 98k for their Anfield .. the Mauser brothers sued but Germany lost the war and the lawsuit was recalled ... that's how mattresses always behave ..
    1. Professor
      Professor 27 February 2016 09: 00
      -1
      Quote: bad
      .that is how mattresses always behave ..

      You are absolutely right. Two episodes immediately come to mind: how the United States stole the secret of the atomic bomb from the USSR and how they copied the Tu-4 calling it B-29. That is their whole point.
      1. iouris
        iouris 27 February 2016 09: 30
        +3
        Americans are sure that Ford invented the car. And in what Light did the wheel, the internal combustion engine, invent?
        At least two leading American aircraft designers are emigrants from Russia.
        Werner von Braun is an SS officer.
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 27 February 2016 10: 25
          +4
          Quote: iouris
          At least two leading American aircraft designers are emigrants from Russia.

          The United States is a country of immigrants, anyone who has obtained citizenship becomes an American, and what origin is no longer important. Zvorykin, Sikorsky, Ponyatov and many others glorified the United States, and not Russia / USSR.
        2. rati
          rati 19 March 2016 20: 40
          0
          yeah, already the "Kalashnikov" is a purely amersky firm?
      2. cap
        cap 27 February 2016 10: 21
        0
        TROPHEUS AND THEFT
        TROPHY, th, m. Property, ammunition, equipment, captured from the enemy. War trophies. Hunting trophies (trans.: Dead game, animals).
        THEFT
        Theft - the secret theft of another's property - is recognized as a crime in almost all jurisdictions.
        In accordance with the principle of subjective imputation, theft is qualified as theft in cases where the person committing it believed that he was acting secretly, even if his actions were not secretly objective.

        - "Who is the witness?
        I am a witness! What happened? "(C)
        "What money? Who saw them?" (C)
        "There is a man, there is a problem - No man, no problem" (c)
        All of this series.
        And finally.
        "-Daddy! I finally won the lawsuit that you've been fighting for 20 years!"
        -Young son. Now I see you have become a lawyer.
        -From tomorrow you will feed yourself. "
        Something like that hi
      3. fider
        fider 27 February 2016 11: 05
        -2
        Professor

        No need to dig so deep - F-22 is copied from the T-50, moreover, about 20 years ago.
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      5. Ostwest
        Ostwest 27 February 2016 16: 56
        +1
        Who would doubt that the Omerians are a natural thief, but your examples are not entirely successful, that is, you have a doubt and it overcomes you.
      6. Wheel
        Wheel 27 February 2016 20: 34
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: bad
        .that is how mattresses always behave ..

        You are absolutely right. Two episodes immediately come to mind: how the United States stole the secret of the atomic bomb from the USSR and how they copied the Tu-4 calling it B-29. That is their whole point.

        Yes Yes Yes Yes!
        And what is surprising, the USSR is still suing about this! laughing
      7. Old old
        Old old 28 February 2016 02: 11
        +1
        You are absolutely right. Two episodes immediately come to mind: how the United States stole the secret of the atomic bomb from the USSR and how they copied the Tu-4 calling it B-29. That is their whole point.

        Yak-141 and F-35, "stealth" technology was mentioned above, AKM and "Galil", etc. etc. the list goes on and on.
        1. Professor
          Professor 28 February 2016 08: 06
          0
          Quote: Nursing Old
          Yak-141 and F-35,

          Well, yes the F-35 is not a licensed copy of the Yak-141.

          Quote: Nursing Old
          "stealth" technology mentioned above

          Stealth invented the Ufimtsev and vile Americans stole it.

          Quote: Nursing Old
          AKM and Galil

          Galil is not a licensed copy of AKM.

          Quote: Nursing Old
          the list goes on.

          That would be to look at this list as a whole. wink
  7. iouris
    iouris 27 February 2016 09: 34
    0
    First, Stealth is not invisible. Secondly, I remember that in the early 1990s, the congress heard a scientist from the city of Gorky about these technologies.
  8. KirAntiglobov
    KirAntiglobov 27 February 2016 10: 35
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: bad
    .that is how mattresses always behave ..

    You are absolutely right. Two episodes immediately come to mind: how the United States stole the secret of the atomic bomb from the USSR and how they copied the Tu-4 calling it B-29. That is their whole point.

    This children's sarcasm is not clear. That is, if, for example, a purse was pulled from Serdyukov, then he has already become a poor and unhappy victim and now he needs to be pitied?
    1. fider
      fider 27 February 2016 11: 13
      -3
      KirAntiglobov
      What is it that everyone doesn’t steal, and the Russians, too, because you didn’t know that atomic technology was stolen from the states by the help of two Jewish Amer’s communists?
      1. Ostwest
        Ostwest 27 February 2016 17: 17
        +2
        The Rosenberg case is highly politicized, there is so much invented and falsified that the example is unsuccessful.
        For Omerians, the theft process has been put on stream with the help of the Fed. They print candy wrappers, make an offer to an interesting person, pull them out and use them for their intended purpose.
        There is no comparison with people working for the idea, like the Rosenberg couple, despicably executed by vaunted Omirigan justice, despite numerous requests for pardon. The same A. Einstein.
        The secret of the bomb went through other channels, and we ourselves used these opportunities only to verify the results.
    2. Professor
      Professor 27 February 2016 12: 59
      0
      Quote: KirAntiglobov
      This children's sarcasm is not clear.

      Sarcasm about how in a stranger's eye some are able to discern, but in their own way they will not even notice the logs.
  9. X Y Z
    X Y Z 27 February 2016 10: 39
    +4
    Quote: iouris
    First of all, Stealth is not invisible ...


    It is not invisible, but subtle. As well as there is no stainless steel, but it is corrosion resistant. True, the correct names are not so spectacular and impressive affect the brain of the layman.
  10. gridasov
    gridasov 27 February 2016 13: 09
    +3
    Of course at some stage it is important to know the scale of the change in email. resistance not even of the carbon filaments themselves but of that part of the plastic that comes into contact with air at high flight speed. However, it seems to me that it is much more efficient to find materials with a high degree of ionization by this air, then the emitting or reflecting ability of the surface of the aircraft body and individual parts can be controlled by creating a fairly simple method of forming email. magnetic circuit of various parts and housing. This means that the surface potential can be controlled and changed in the required vector.
  11. zczczc
    zczczc 27 February 2016 13: 19
    +2
    scientists allegedly even without a patent knew at what temperature the electrical resistance of carbon fibers changes.

    yes they knew, in my youth I was studying the electrical properties of aviation polymer materials. It was sooo interesting.

    At least two leading American aircraft designers are emigrants from Russia.

    another was from Georgia, Alexander Kartvelishvili (Kartveli).
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 27 February 2016 13: 28
      +3
      I repeat that understanding the algorithms for such transformations of parameters and control techniques due to surface ionization in dynamic flight, this potential must be controlled, which means it becomes immune to the radar. Especially in those parameters of the "beam" that are known in advance. In a static state, materials and substances have been studied quite well, within the framework of the technologies used, but in dynamics and especially at hyperspeeds this is experimentally impossible, since different parts of the surface are at different degrees of ionization, as a highly dynamic and changing process
  12. Region 23
    Region 23 27 February 2016 16: 45
    0
    In the year of the twentieth anniversary of the filing of the first claim, Zoltek Corp. from St. Louis back to the old case. Rather, the company specializing in the development and study of composite materials, remembered him all this time, but only now she had the opportunity to try again to prove that the Pentagon uses the technology of "stealth", without paying for it. Or, quite simply, by stealing it.
    .
    The Pentagon is not fools to pay for the so-called stealth technology. who turned out to be helpless in front of Russian and Chinese air defense and missile defense systems.
  13. waleri
    waleri 28 February 2016 03: 06
    0
    Hello! I doubt that the Americans will win against Japanese businessmen. This is not RUSSIA, which pays everyone the slightest sneeze. It's a shame, of course. That ours cannot assert their property rights anywhere in the world. It's time to create your own lawyers from various branches of law of foreign countries. Take, for example, a court with M. Khodorkovsky Only because he encroached on the property of our citizens, including the provision of pensions, he personally is not pleasant to me, as well as his supporters to snatch more and grab an undeserved one. so i think
  14. Russian dream
    Russian dream 16 March 2016 08: 33
    0
    We are talking about stealth technology, which can significantly reduce the possibility of using various materials and carbon fibers in particular


    Hmm, PAK FA is hardly made from carbon fibers.