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Expert's comment to the video that captured the TOW-2 ATGM hit the Syrian T-90A tank

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The video of the TOW-2 rocket hitting the T-90 tank of the Syrian army that appeared on the network aroused a wide discussion among users. Publications appeared with titles like “hit the first tank T-90”. However, according to the expert on armored vehicles Alexey Khlopotov, there is no evidence that the vehicle was hit.


Expert's comment to the video that captured the TOW-2 ATGM hit the Syrian T-90A tank


Expert commentary leads Messenger of Mordovia:

“If we carefully watch the video, we see that initially, the tank fired single shots from the NSWT in the direction of the threat.

The system "Curtain" for some reason did not work, although the illuminators of the optic-electronic countermeasures complex were open. It's hard to figure out where to hit. Perhaps in the frontal part of the hull or tower.

A subsequent fire and or explosion, apparently, was not observed, because otherwise, it would be a continuation of the fire show video for militants. It can be seen that the gunner-operator survived and left the tank.

That is, there is no evidence that this tank was hit or somehow seriously damaged. It is possible that even he moved away from the place of defeat under his own power in order to repair external injuries in the rear. ”



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  1. maxiban
    maxiban 26 February 2016 18: 51
    166
    I read on other media that the tank itself had left. One thing I can say is that if the tank had really been hit, then the broads would definitely have shot it.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 26 February 2016 18: 57
      +2
      Quote: maxiban
      I read on other media that the tank itself left


      Don’t share the link?
      1. maxiban
        maxiban 26 February 2016 18: 58
        +3
        http://defendingrussia.ru/a/tank_t90_vyzhil_posle_popadanija_amerikanskoj_rakety
        _video-5245 /
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 10
          17
          There, the same roller is inserted and the tank is not fixed. And therefore, this is just the speculation of the author of the note from that site the link to which you provided.
          1. Darkmor
            Darkmor 26 February 2016 19: 16
            335
            Well, what exactly is fuss?
            T90 is not invulnerable, they could have knocked it out.
            In this video, I am inclined to think that the ATGM exploded about DZ - otherwise no one would get out of the tower.
            But even if he had been knocked down, what would have changed it? It can be knocked out of an RPG as well - if you get it right.
            Rather, this video is for the internal consumer of ISIS - to raise morale. Apparently our new tanks pressed them tightly, since they do such an installation only to show that they can be knocked out.
            I even think that the video is so short because further on the video the tank went under its own power behind the obstacle - otherwise why not shoot a "dead tank" for 10-15 minutes to make it more convincing?
            P.S. By the way - where did you get the idea that the TOW flew over the tank?
            Here 2 clips from 2 different cameras are mounted - they could be shot at different times in different places.
            This is so, by the way, do not blindly trust everything that you see.
            1. maxiban
              maxiban 26 February 2016 19: 19
              66
              And therefore, this is just the speculation of the author of the note from that site the link to which you provided.

              I agree, there is no retreat video, as well as the video of the tank’s ignition, detonation of bk, etc. Therefore, having connected the logic, I think that it is simply not profitable for terrorists to publish the entire video, because .... (hereinafter referred to as speculation).
              1. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 28
                33
                Quote: maxiban
                Therefore, having connected the logic, I think that it is simply not profitable for terrorists to publish the entire video, because .... (hereinafter referred to as speculation).


                I agree that it is quite possible that this is so. It would be nice for journalists working in Syria to talk to the "guards" from this crew, so that they tell how it was (if they are alive and everything is in order with them). And the car itself is worth showing at this time. Purely so that the Yankees and Babai would break off their salivation and wet balls. laughing
                And break so that the whole world knows about it. wink
                1. Pravdarm
                  Pravdarm 26 February 2016 19: 32
                  67
                  Do not guess and do not spoil your mood!
                  Better take a look and be happy for ours! drinks
              2. WKS
                WKS 26 February 2016 22: 12
                11
                Quote: maxiban
                it’s simply not profitable for terrorists to publish the entire video because .... (hereinafter referred to as speculation).

                The tank left the shelter and at full speed crushed the camera that was filming it together with the operator.
              3. qwaigon
                qwaigon 26 February 2016 22: 35
                0
                How does this curtain work in general, does it automatically turn on for laser irradiation or should it be constantly on?
                Curtain-1 is an electro-optical counteraction system consisting of 4 key components:
                4 sensors for detecting laser radiation, range 0,65 ... 1,6 microns;
                ATGM control channel radiation detection sensor (ATGM);
                smoke grenade launchers (12 units);
                two infrared searchlights, weather station sensor [1].
                If the laser rangefinder is not used, then how does the curtain work?
                1. PKTRL
                  PKTRL 27 February 2016 01: 27
                  +2
                  Answer qwaigon

                  Curtain-1 is an electro-optical countermeasure system

                  Electro ..?! Oh .. (literate ..) !? You are our electrician. Maybe an electro-optical ..? The rest of the information was "honestly" scraped from the Internet! wink
                2. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 27 February 2016 23: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: qwaigon
                  how does this curtain work in general


                  The "Curtain" must detect the launch of a guided projectile and put obstacles.
                  The aiming of the projectile may be:
                  a) Homing on a laser spot. The negative point is that modern sensors easily detect such an induced spot. The gunner is forced to substitute for the shot (to be in direct line of sight). Counteraction - the creation of many false targets (laser spots).
                  b) Remote-controlled wirelessly (usually a radio channel). On the plus side, the gunner may well stumble before a shot, or even control it through a television monitor. Counteraction - radio interference.
                  c) Remote controlled via a wired channel.
                  A negative point is the range limitation (along the length of the wire coil). Countermeasures - NONE.

                  So if the projectile was controlled by cable, no Curtain could interfere with it.
                  1. goose
                    goose 29 February 2016 10: 04
                    0
                    Old TOW, and most likely this was just with the coil. Obviously, the frames did not turn on the curtains. The only thing that is not clear is that the crew should have seen the launch and managed to shoot smoke grenades in time.
            2. Asadullah
              Asadullah 26 February 2016 20: 03
              15
              In this video, I am inclined to think that the ATGM exploded about DZ - otherwise no one would get out of the tower.


              Yeah, it’s about onboard. And he got out pretty smartly, there was still smoke. I think, just in case .....
              1. 72jora72
                72jora72 27 February 2016 08: 21
                +8
                And he got out pretty smartly, there was still smoke. I think, just in case .....
                Better to burn out than burn inside the armor .....
              2. EFA
                EFA 27 February 2016 14: 56
                11
                So yes, he got out not because the khan came, but out of habit, because in obsolete tanks and combat experience of their crews, as well as communication between them, the rule is one - hit, alive - break out.
                1. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 18: 11
                  0
                  Can I assume? I think he did not close the hatch to the end, so he got his ears torn.
            3. Pereira
              Pereira 26 February 2016 20: 47
              0
              As for the operation of remote sensing, I agree. Most likely it is. Otherwise, everything would be sadder.
              But where is the vaunted "Blind"? How many enthusiasm on this occasion sounded, how many caps took off at the zenith!
              Or is all the talk about her just another shouting, but in fact there is no "Curtain" on the tanks in Syria?
              1. svp67
                svp67 26 February 2016 21: 08
                12
                Quote: Pereira
                But where is the vaunted "Blind"?

                It stands in a regular place, but for some reason does not work. these reasons are worth understanding. What is it, human or technical factor?
                Quote: Pereira
                But in fact there is no "Curtain" on the tanks in Syria?
                The Shtora complex does not represent something daunting and top secret, so there is this complex on the Syrian T90
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 26 February 2016 21: 25
                  -137 qualifying.
                  In short, there is, but it does not work. This is the same as not. With which I congratulate all of us.
                  The fools again liquidated themselves.
                  It turned out like our brothers from the Outskirts. They shouted for overpower, got harassment.
                  1. Stirbjorn
                    Stirbjorn 26 February 2016 21: 37
                    17
                    Quote: Pereira
                    In short, there is, but it does not work. This is the same as not. With which I congratulate all of us.
                    The fools again liquidated themselves.
                    It turned out like our brothers from the Outskirts. They shouted for overpower, got harassment.
                    Apparently, the "Shtora" was turned off by a careless crew. Here is a video in the same Syria how it works: http://videochart.net/video/0j445.3945886051b0a71791ca4664fde2
                    1. The comment was deleted.
                    2. romanru4
                      romanru4 26 February 2016 23: 14
                      +2
                      That is exactly what happened. There are simply no options.
                    3. svd-xnumx
                      svd-xnumx 27 February 2016 00: 39
                      13
                      Here is a video in the same Syria how it works
                      This video is not from Syria, but from the BMP-3 tests before being delivered to the United Arab Emirates.
                    4. Homo
                      Homo 27 February 2016 01: 42
                      -12 qualifying.
                      Quote: Stirbjorn
                      Apparently, the "Shtora" was turned off by a careless crew.

                      Or maybe everything is much simpler?
                      1 - The tank is in the open (attracts attention).
                      2 - There is one person in the tank (if there are less losses).
                      3 - Shoots from a machine gun (Shells apparently unloaded).
                      5 - "Blind" is disabled (For the purity of the experiment).
                      Maybe this is a test for "lice" TOW. Here I am, shoot and we'll see who takes it! wink
                      1. Homo
                        Homo 28 February 2016 02: 55
                        +4
                        Minus is your right. And what am I mistaken? Explain to the stray and syrom my mistakes! hi
                      2. piotr534
                        piotr534 28 February 2016 17: 44
                        0
                        Yes, in fact, in everything (2 - There is one person in the tank (If there are fewer losses)., 3 - Shoots from a machine gun (The shells were apparently unloaded)., 5 - The "Blind" is disabled (For the purity of the experiment) And with the "curtain" turned on, the purity of the experiment would be wrong? request
                      3. Homo
                        Homo 28 February 2016 19: 50
                        0
                        Quote: piotr534
                        And with the "curtain" turned on, the purity of the experiment would not be the same?

                        Certainly not the same, if not "Blind" is verified!
                    5. shasherin.pavel
                      shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 18: 15
                      +2
                      This is not a target for three pennies, to substitute it under a rocket! And one person jumped out, because the rocket (seen in slow motion) is hooked casually on the roof, and this hatch apparently didn’t close until the end, so it was a bit embarrassing. If I got well, I wouldn’t move my limbs so quickly.
                    6. Homo
                      Homo 28 February 2016 19: 52
                      0
                      Quote: shasherin.pavel
                      This is not a target for three pennies, to substitute it under a rocket!

                      Well, yes, during the tests they beat and more expensive equipment.
                      Quote: shasherin.pavel
                      but this hatch apparently did not close until the end

                      In your opinion there in Syria on the T-90 first-year old horses fighting?
              2. Pereira
                Pereira 27 February 2016 03: 07
                -14 qualifying.
                This is a record of demonstrations. This video has already been exposed. It doesn’t.
                1. co-creator
                  co-creator 27 February 2016 03: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: Pereira
                  This is a record of demonstrations. This video has already been exposed. It doesn’t.

                  Does it work or not? It works on the video, but why it doesn’t work for the Arabs, you need to ask the crew of this tank .. Che you don’t quack?
                2. Pereira
                  Pereira 27 February 2016 10: 24
                  -1
                  Above svd-73 wrote what kind of video it is.
                3. Pre-cat
                  Pre-cat 27 February 2016 15: 33
                  +6
                  Quotation: blooded man
                  Does it work or not? It works on the video, but why it doesn’t work for the Arabs, you need to ask the crew of this tank .. Che you don’t quack?

                  Arabs do not have much of ours. The same anti-aircraft missile systems in Egypt, during the war with Israel, could not cope with Jewish Phantoms. Until they threw equipment with operators there. Up to the starting calculations. After which the Israelis pushed their tails. In the same Egypt, according to the memoirs of the Central Intelligence Agency, in the late 70s and early 80s, the Soviet Strela MANPADS were stored in warehouses in such conditions that successful launches on the fingers could be counted. And in Syria, in the 70s, 80s, our advisers noted that not all fighters can fully use the capabilities of Soviet technology. Including due to careless maintenance. And then there was probably more order in the Syrian army than now.
          2. lelikas
            lelikas 26 February 2016 21: 39
            28
            Quote: Pereira
            In short, there is, but it does not work. This is the same as not. With which I congratulate all of us.
            The fools again liquidated themselves.
            It turned out like our brothers from the Outskirts. They shouted for overpower, got harassment.

            If you go into the elevator, but don’t press the button, it won’t go, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have a motor. Easier to explain?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 26 February 2016 21: 43
              -78 qualifying.
              If the elevator did not go, I don’t care if it has a motor.
              Am I explaining in an accessible way?

              But from the elevator I would ask properly. As with the one who promised me a working elevator.
              1. Konstantin Yu
                Konstantin Yu 27 February 2016 07: 54
                +7
                Comedian, ha.ha ... went into the elevator and called the elevator to press the button .... if this goes so, who needs to be called into the sartier so that the pants do not bother? ... And if in the case, the question remains: why?
              2. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 27 February 2016 17: 10
                +2
                Look, your posts are very reminiscent of a very old joke about a Jew and God: a Jew asked God for a long time to win the lottery, at last God could not stand it, and answered: Abram, but at least you ONE buy a lottery ticket !!!!
            2. Turkir
              Turkir 26 February 2016 22: 16
              +2
              In my opinion, nowhere is easier. lol
            3. 97110
              97110 28 February 2016 21: 25
              +2
              Quote: lelikas
              If you go into the elevator but don’t press the button

              It is necessary on the 11th floor in Rostov. I live in my own house, in our village of houses above 5 floors. no. Therefore, I am doing the usual operation of dialing 11 on the phone, computer, etc. - I press button 1 twice. The elevator does not go anywhere. I had to remember a stormy youth and look for button 11.
          3. Locksmith
            Locksmith 26 February 2016 22: 00
            +7
            Quote: Pereira
            In short, there is, but it does not work. This is the same as not.

            Was he sitting in the tank? Precisely from this side? ... n, evil is not enough for your 7th column. am
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 26 February 2016 22: 09
              -48 qualifying.
              And what's wrong, tanker? That the tank is not going - garbage. Is there a main motor?
              And what is an 7 column? These are those who do not shout cheers with or without cause?
              I can advise on the classification of columns. Better, read it here:

              http://topwar.ru/59640-shest-kolonn-rossii.html
              1. Dewa1s
                Dewa1s 29 February 2016 11: 46
                +1
                These are the ones who shout "fucked up polymers" with or without reason
          4. papik09
            papik09 27 February 2016 01: 32
            +8
            Quote: Pereira
            They shouted for overpower, got harassment.

            What? Very smart? Yes? am I even switched to Ukrainian ...
          5. Skifotavr
            Skifotavr 27 February 2016 02: 06
            15
            Quote: Pereira
            In short, there is, but it does not work. This is the same as not. With which I congratulate all of us.
            The fools again liquidated themselves.
            It turned out like our brothers from the Outskirts. They shouted for overpower, got harassment.

            Something tells me that if the crew were Russian, then in the first place everything would most likely work, and secondly, the militants would not have had time to release the rocket at all. Even at the very beginning of the Syrian venture, many warned that in crooked hands, Russian weapons may again show themselves not from their best side and the "partner" propaganda will not miss an opportunity to take advantage of this. You need to come to terms with this.
          6. Pereira
            Pereira 27 February 2016 03: 12
            -47 qualifying.
            It seems that with my comment I hit the ducks not in the eyebrow, but in the balls. The day was not in vain.
            1. co-creator
              co-creator 27 February 2016 03: 40
              20
              Quote: Pereira
              It seems that with my comment I hit the ducks not in the eyebrow, but in the balls. The day was not in vain.

              Well, apparently I received 10 hryvnias from Stets and there was enough for beer.
            2. MMX
              MMX 27 February 2016 11: 17
              -7
              Quote: Pereira
              It seems that with my comment I hit the ducks not in the eyebrow, but in the balls. The day was not in vain.


              I’m also brushing a staged video. Looks like a T-90 ad. Like, even with the shutter off, he TOU 2 clicks like nuts ...
            3. nemec55
              nemec55 27 February 2016 15: 32
              +2
              It seems that with my comment I hit the ducks not in the eyebrow, but in the balls. The day was not in vain.

              No, just d'il and that's it, that's the people's reaction to you d'il.
              People are sitting on the site trying to find out what where and how and what kind of stuff comes office manager and bam everything is in the kennel. I don’t even correct the error so that the text matches your mind.
            4. ty60
              ty60 28 February 2016 00: 34
              0
              You hit. Specifically. And in the party and in the shit.
          7. SklochPensioner
            SklochPensioner 27 February 2016 05: 35
            10
            fools, pereira, God forgive me!
            "Uryakaly" - who is this, your mother? Express yourself more clearly!
          8. nemez
            nemez 27 February 2016 15: 09
            -1
            This is the T-72B "slingshot" - learn to distinguish between tanks !!! T-90 can only be scratched with such garbage.
          9. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 27 February 2016 17: 07
            0
            Damn, zaminyusili! but he says it right! guys, before you put + or - read the post, think, well, and then .... fool
          10. ty60
            ty60 28 February 2016 00: 21
            +3
            Moshe Dayan was without an eye before .. Another would be to knock out-catching at night!
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 26 February 2016 21: 43
        10
        Quote: Pereira
        all the talk about it is just another shouting, but in fact there is no "Curtain" on the tanks in Syria?

        So that ours - but do not run it in combat conditions ?! It can not be! wink
        Rather, just, the half-trained crew does not know how to use all the possibilities so far .. they could simply "forget to press the button" - and here's the result.
        The knowledge of "invulnerability" dampens, as you know, guys could relax too. hi
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 26 February 2016 21: 52
          -45 qualifying.
          I would love to watch a video with the "Curtain" working. Where is it? So far, only promises of invulnerability. When it will be, I will shout the loudest hurray. Until then, call me. While I ask questions, was there a boy?
          1. gal
            gal 26 February 2016 23: 37
            +4
            http://videochart.net/video/0j445.3945886051b0a71791ca4664fde2
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 27 February 2016 03: 01
              -15 qualifying.
              This is an advertisement for ketchup. It doesn’t.
          2. Nightrain
            Nightrain 27 February 2016 14: 57
            11
            And I, not with pleasure, but would have looked at the video with a burning T-90, if there were such, but that's the bad luck of such net. But the T-90 is already at the forefront. What have you got to the bottom of the "curtains"? There is nothing supernatural in it, and when the hatches are open, as in this case, it turns off. Obviously, by the way the video is cut at the most interesting place, that the T-90 most likely survived the hit, you did not have a holiday this time, do not try to jump out of the trousers, only you look funnier.
      3. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 26 February 2016 22: 52
        16
        a few months ago I saw a video here, how from TOV they closed up some T50 in a column on the road in the field ... it jumped so that on a whole hectare the dust rose in a column, but 10-15 seconds before the ignition of BC 2 or 3 a member of the crew jumped out and ran away from the tank, although it was clear that the tankers were smoking on the move (but judging by the speed of their run, they got off to a minimum) ... why is it: a naked shiny "kolobok" with open hatches and without hints of remote control as a result burned out , but almost the entire crew (I hope the mechanic also survived) managed to scatter ... glory to the Soviet steelworkers
      4. romanru4
        romanru4 26 February 2016 23: 13
        21
        Stupidly forgot to include. These guys are still those! With an open hatch in the tower on the line of fire! Well done! DZ worked - shell shock through the open hatch to the whole crew!
      5. co-creator
        co-creator 27 February 2016 03: 34
        +9
        Quote: Pereira
        Or is all the talk about her just another shouting, but in fact there is no "Curtain" on the tanks in Syria?

        You do not quack. and ask the guys from CAA why they don’t close the hatches and do not turn on the curtain.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 27 February 2016 10: 21
          -10 qualifying.
          I? There was nobody to do it except me?
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 26 February 2016 21: 32
      17
      ATGM exploded about DZ - otherwise no one would get out of the tower.


      Holy truth.

      The tank is wrecked (in battle, anything can happen), BUT NOT DESTROYED!
    3. RED_ICE
      RED_ICE 26 February 2016 21: 54
      +5
      I support! A crew member may have taught a light concussion or simply got scared and left the tank.
    4. romanru4
      romanru4 26 February 2016 23: 10
      20
      I would hang those "tankers" by the balls. And more correct their teachers for STE place. Not only was the tank put in the line of fire just as a target, but also the hatch in the tower was not closed! Even if the remote control is triggered, the crew is guaranteed a shell shock.
      Exit to the line of fire - shot - withdrawal from the line of fire. A thousand times everything has been worked out for a long time! Apparently this is neither the teachers nor the tankers themselves at all. They went out and stood there - they were waiting for when they hit us!
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 27 February 2016 03: 47
        12
        Quote: romanru4
        Exit to the line of fire - shot - withdrawal from the line of fire. A thousand times everything has been worked out for a long time! Apparently this is neither the teachers nor the tankers themselves at all. They went out and stood there - they were waiting for when they hit us!

        Minus for teachers. Life has proved that it is unrealistic to train Arabs. Allahu akbar has an answer to everything, or if in Russian - what to be, that cannot be avoided.
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 18: 24
          0
          But why do they act on the T-55, after a shot they change their position ... I think this is bullshit, since it is impossible to distinguish the T-72 from the T-90 on the record.
      2. Fast_mutant
        Fast_mutant 27 February 2016 09: 59
        +8
        Quote: romanru4
        Exit to the line of fire - shot - withdrawal from the line of fire.


        My whole experience of tank battles is WoT. And I perfectly understand that roll-out-BACH-roll-in ... And this is taking into account the fact that nothing heavier than a photon will fly out of the monitor! It’s good that it’s not one shot. And here, in real life, the guys do not think with their head at all? So the crew can easily not live to victory. They themselves will die, and the equipment will be ruined. Used to hammer nails with microscopes ...
        I watched the video several times. IMHO flew into the tower. If only in the case, khan to the guys, because they set up the side, and not the forehead.
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 18: 26
          0
          Quote: Fast_mutant
          IMHO flew into the tower

          Enter the settings (gear), set the speed to 0.5 and see where it flew, you can put it to 0.25 even more clearly.
    5. shooter18
      shooter18 27 February 2016 00: 05
      +1
      Krasava, competent koment!
    6. raptor1975
      raptor1975 27 February 2016 02: 15
      -17 qualifying.
      I can’t understand why they constantly talk about the outdated ATGM TOU, there is an American JAWELIN whose infrared homing head can hit either directly from the top (there is its Israeli counterpart, even better than JAWELIN), it can easily disassemble our T-90 , the Russians have no such ATGMs - they are expensive ...
      1. zulusuluz
        zulusuluz 27 February 2016 08: 45
        +4
        Everything would be fine, but what to do with the tens of thousands of previously released ammunition? Throw it away? So throw away your furniture, burn down the house, and there, you see, the "bright future" is not far off. The world is improving ...
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 27 February 2016 14: 22
        +2
        Quote: raptor1975
        I can’t understand why they constantly talk about the outdated ATGM TOU, there is an American JAWELIN whose infrared homing head can hit either directly from the top (there is its Israeli counterpart, even better than JAWELIN), it can easily disassemble our T-90

        Maybe because there are no Spikes or Javelins in Syria?

        Quote: raptor1975
        Russians have no such ATGMs - they are expensive ...

        Well, yes they are expensive! It’s the same as shooting expensive heads of the GOS, apparently they decided to hit the tank with two Cornets cheaper and more reliable.
      3. goose
        goose 29 February 2016 10: 43
        +2
        Quote: raptor1975
        Russians have no such ATGMs - they are expensive ..

        Thinking with your brain? Is the optical head expensive?
        Well, read something about the Javelins, and about Spikes, and about our missiles.
        And then study the location of the reservation and DZ on the T-90, there on the roof it is just from such missiles.

        Now the only missile, against which no tank in the world stands, has the following scheme - any guidance system, the main thing is to fly over the tank. Optical, usually duplicated system, detecting the tank from below. The striking element is a "shock core", preferably 2-3 pieces, i.e. the accuracy is not the best. The only opposition against this is Armata. But ... it costs several times more, and the probability of hitting a tank by a missile in ideal conditions is no more than 60%. Therefore, NATO is not yet ready to give up missiles, which are aimed bluntly at the figure of the tank, and bluntly at the laser beam - the hit percentage is above 90%. It is highly likely that it is in this battle that the affected tank will no longer take part.
    7. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 27 February 2016 02: 31
      +1
      judging by the illumination of the terrain in different frames it is
    8. PAM
      PAM 27 February 2016 09: 41
      +2
      without the continuation of the video or a visual explanation of the consequences of the hit (by the exploiters of the T90 tank), all the rest is speculation, but the questions are why the "curtain" system was not used and why the hatches of the commander and gunner (who received the hike as a min.concussion (from the external detonation of from the tank covered his ears with his hands) were opened in a combat situation (fired from a machine gun) should not be ignored.
    9. nemez
      nemez 27 February 2016 15: 05
      -1
      Why does everyone believe that this is a T-90? in my opinion this is a t-72b "slingshot", it has no curtains.
      1. Valera999
        Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 17
        0
        Because it is a T-90. Horror YES !!!
    10. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 28 February 2016 13: 42
      0
      Here 2 clips from 2 different cameras are mounted - they could be shot at different times in different places.
      Professional?
    11. Savanord
      Savanord 28 February 2016 15: 55
      0
      Yes this staging
    12. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 17: 53
      +1
      If you reduce the viewing speed in the settings, then you can see that the rocket hit, not even in the forehead of the tower, but casually along the roof, I think that it would have been a little higher and generally a miss would have turned out. On one camera, the sky is in cirrus clouds, on the other it’s pure, the color and quality of the shooting are different. And one more thing: when an Arab shoots, it takes about 7 seconds from shot to scream, and when a tank is shot, from shot to shot 5 seconds. They didn’t work correctly.
    13. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 February 2016 18: 19
      0
      Quote: Darkmor
      Well, what exactly is fuss?
      T90 is not invulnerable, they could have knocked it out.
      In this video, I am inclined to think that the ATGM exploded about DZ - otherwise no one would get out of the tower.
      But even if he had been knocked down, what would have changed it? It can be knocked out of an RPG as well - if you get it right.
      Rather, this video is for the internal consumer of ISIS - to raise morale.
      P.S. By the way - where did you get the idea that the TOW flew over the tank?
      Here 2 clips from 2 different cameras are mounted - they could be shot at different times in different places.


      1. Wanted to test the tank in the war - test. Work moment.
      2. I agree, most likely the DZ worked. The gunner was shell-shocked, he held on to his ears, but he moved confidently, not in haste.
      3. Well, not to raise "morality", what kind of morality is there, but morale. However, it may be slang.
      4. Yes. Like any creativity, the author has the right to his opinion. He sees it and so mounts the movie. It is enough to look at the sky (clear blue at noon and evening cloudy, backlighting of clouds from the bottom).
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  3. adept666
    adept666 26 February 2016 19: 24
    37
    The same roller is inserted and the tank is not moving away. And therefore, this is just the speculation of the author of the note from that site the link to which you provided.
    Let's say the tank is hit. This is, in principle, inevitable in modern warfare, because PTS have reached a level of development simply colossal, but what is remarkable, we were constantly shown pictures of how the towers of our tanks allegedly hit by the PTS of our "friends" or from the defeat of their tanks and when we showed in the video that their tanks also amaze (Abrams, for example, or Merkava) we were told all the time, well, they were amazed, but the crew was intact, the tower did not fly away, the crew escaped, and in your "trash" 100% die. What do we say that the towers fly away when the tank is blown up from the inside, i.e. retreat and abandon the tank, and the attackers lay checkers and undermine, they tell us this is all garbage, because Western tanks have better protection, and ours have everything from the evil one. Here is a direct hit of a serious ATGM from close range to the T-90 turret, watch 1:07: 1: the turret is in place. 2: The crew is alive. Well, about the severed towers ... the video below The towers mean the Abrams do not fly off))) Well, well ...
    1. What a
      What a 26 February 2016 19: 41
      +8
      Where is the black man? How without a black man? That is why the Hussites blew up the tank.
      1. adept666
        adept666 26 February 2016 19: 47
        +6
        Where is the black man? How without a black man? That is why the Hussites blew up the tank.
        Negro is not tolerant right now. Aren't you in the know? Now even white in the USA are African-Americans, and you are talking about some black man laughing
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 26 February 2016 20: 10
          +9
          Quote: adept666
          Negro is not tolerant right now. Aren't you in the know?

          I think about the automatic loader said ... laughing
          1. adept666
            adept666 26 February 2016 20: 31
            13
            I think about the automatic loader said ... laughing
            It is understandable, but again, we are miserable and backward with nothing to be proud of here, we use and develop the outdated kinematic system, and in the USA, an ultramodern highly organized organic weapon supply system has been created and is actively used for about 50 years.
          2. goose
            goose 29 February 2016 10: 48
            0
            Quote: PSih2097
            I think about the automatic loader said.

            An African-American-type loader, a product of socio- and bio-technology, is nevertheless less effective than a mechanical loader of any type. But it can wash the tank, carry the guard, remove the pot from under the tank commander.
        2. akims
          akims 27 February 2016 17: 59
          +2
          instead of black you can ruberoid
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 26 February 2016 20: 10
        +6
        Quote: Che for
        Where is the black man? How without a black man? That is why the Hussites blew up the tank.

        Blacks on the development of a loader, hands sew wassat
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 26 February 2016 21: 40
        +2
        Quote: Che for
        Where is the black man? How without a black man? That is why the Hussites blew up the tank.

        Negro was sent to prison, as usual ....
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 27 February 2016 13: 16
      +2
      the Abrams don’t fly off))) Well, well ... ,,
      this is all Surkovian propaganda; the tower cannot fly away from the overlords.
  4. DMB_95
    DMB_95 26 February 2016 19: 25
    15
    On the video there is a fact of hit on the tank. DESTRUCTION of the tank is not. A living tanker will not appear from the destroyed tank. Unfortunately...
  5. cosmos111
    cosmos111 26 February 2016 19: 57
    10
    Quote: wanderer_032
    There, the same roller is inserted and the tank is not fixed.

    for personnel .... is there a penetration of the armor or not, there will still be infa ....
    you decide what the consequences will be .....
    1. adept666
      adept666 26 February 2016 20: 12
      33
      for personnel .... is there a penetration of the armor or not, there will still be infa ....
      If there was a clear penetration, then the tower certainly would not have flown away, but no one would have left 100% of it. I think they got a splash, DZ worked normally, smoke, decided to leave the car in a fever.
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        1. adept666
          adept666 26 February 2016 20: 38
          14
          THEY WITH THE OPEN BATTLE HAVE SITTING THERE TO ALL OF THE CONTRUSION
          Something about a fighter departing from a hatch does not seem to be contused, do you even have a little idea what a contusion is and how does a person with such barotravms navigate in space?
          1. i80186
            i80186 26 February 2016 20: 47
            +6
            Quote: adept666
            Something about a fighter departing from a hatch does not seem to be contused, do you even have a little idea what a contusion is and how does a person with such barotravms navigate in space?

            Top to bottom does not begin to confuse. In addition, what kind of barotrauma, how much shell shock? Easy? And what would prevent him with a light concussion to freely get out of the tank?
            1. adept666
              adept666 26 February 2016 21: 15
              +8
              Top to bottom does not begin to confuse.
              Seriously? Engaged in boxing or melee? If so, then when you skip to the jaw and knock down, this is just a slight shell shock (if you're interested, read about the nature of the knockdown).
              And what would prevent him with a light concussion to freely get out of the tank?
              You know, if you want to understand what it is (easy shell shock), then option number one (let's say it’s safer for health) get up exactly 10 quick turns with your body around the axis (like a top), immediately take 10 centimeters from your ears and don’t bump yourself on them, and then try to walk in a straight line (I'm not talking about the hatch laughing ) Option 2 (traumatic, I do not recommend trying it if the hearing is expensive): take your hands 20-25 centimeters from your ears and slap yourself strongly on them with your mouth closed. With this option, at best you can crawl the first time.
              1. i80186
                i80186 26 February 2016 21: 16
                +2
                Quote: adept666
                Seriously? Engaged in boxing or melee? If so, then when you skip to the jaw and knock down, this is just a slight shell shock (if you're interested, read about the nature of the knockdown).

                He was engaged in the combat use of tanks. smile
                Quote: adept666
                You know, if you want to understand what it is (easy shell shock), then option number one (let's say it’s safer for health) get up exactly 10 quick turns with your body around the axis (like a top)

                Head with a run against the wall, hit, well, to get a slight concussion. And there will be a light concussion for you. Symptoms are not distinguishable. laughing
              2. adept666
                adept666 26 February 2016 21: 38
                +8
                He was engaged in the combat use of tanks. smile
                As my coach said, until you feel the effect of a blow, you won’t learn to beat.
                Head with a run against the wall, hit, well, to get a slight concussion. And there will be a light concussion for you. Symptoms are not distinguishable
                I know what a light concussion is and believe me, concussion and concussion (there were both) were two different things and the disorientation in space under these influences is also different. Well, and as for your advice, well, hit the take-off run and see how you even get out of the hatch with a concussion within a few seconds after the impact laughing
              3. avia1991
                avia1991 26 February 2016 21: 51
                +6
                Quote: i80186
                Engaged in the combat use of tanks

                Basically, theoretically, judging by the comments .. And the explosive concussion in practice is hardly received. You’ll move, of course - but you won’t get out of the car so vigorously!
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 26 February 2016 22: 01
              14
              A light concussion is not an easy slap in the ass! He was engaged in boxing and missed a full blow to the jaw, got up and continued the fight for the tenth second, but first depicted a bug turned upside down (felt glued to the floor, moreover, the floor took upright position for some reason), and when he got up, he continued the fight with the judge without seeing who looms before your eyes! Therefore, constant training on emergency leaving the machine is important.
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            4. Locksmith
              Locksmith 26 February 2016 22: 21
              +8
              Quote: adept666
              With this option, at best you can crawl the first time.

              The inventor, even with a serious tumor of the middle ear, with a normally functioning brain from the second attempt, the system completely correlates the deviation and brings the body to the desired position.
              If the brain is poorly functioning, the peripheral nervous system — our original brain, such as DOS by WINDOWS — takes over the leadership. smile , the goat understands that this works many times faster, but not for long.
              This phenomenon is remarkably consistent with sports, for example, 3D piloting of helicopter models, it is really impossible to understand what is happening, but if you know the basics, then everything becomes clear.
              A person who has done something mechanically 5000 times will never forget it, and most importantly, this can happen without the participation of the central nervous system.
              This is surprising, but understandable - the reaction of the central nervous system of a very well trained person = 300 ms = 0.3 sec, plus muscle reaction, the reaction of a trained pilot -50-70 ms INCLUDING MUSCLE REACTIONS !!, this is 0.05-0.07 sec!
              The whole sport is based on this. wink
            5. adept666
              adept666 26 February 2016 22: 48
              +2
              The inventor, even with a serious tumor of the middle ear, with a normally functioning brain from the second attempt, the system completely correlates the deviation and brings the body to the desired position.
              Of course, I understand that by writing a lot of letters with a claim to a certain scientifically grounded component, you hope to impress someone here as a "knowledgeable" person, but alas, you do not know anything about the shell shock.
              If the brain is weak, the peripheral nervous system takes over
              She certainly accepts I will not argue, only with a concussion the first blow just hits her (I also refer to the peripheral one as the sensory one), it turns off and you do it at least 100500 times the repetition will not save you even with a normally working brain because it just has nothing to process and issue the appropriate commands, if you draw your analogies with operating systems, then if the port to which your keyboard is connected does not work correctly or does not work at all, then the OS will not be able to print letters or print a crap.
        2. Yuri. Kaliningrad
          Yuri. Kaliningrad 27 February 2016 21: 35
          +2
          If possible, I will share my experience: about "top with bottom", at this moment, you don't even remember, if at all, you remember anything. In case of a concussion, YOU ARE NOT X ... SOMETHING - NOT IN-MA-ESSH-L-L-L-L-L-L !!! said that at that moment consciousness began to come), AND ... O-W-E-N-L D-O-L-G-O THE LIGHT TURNS OFF !!! Then it "seemed" to me that it lasts forever, although, according to the words, I did not regain consciousness! Then I woke up. :))) Now something doesn’t hold up -det- :))) at all, and the cyst on the back hasn’t grown for 13 years!
          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 18: 42
            0
            I treated one decompression concussion of the spine on a train, and then in the morning he said that for the first time after Afghanistan he had slept all night without whistling in his ears. True, after the first such contact, I did not sleep half a night, an unpleasant story to take on other people's shell shocks.
          2. gavrosh.ru
            gavrosh.ru 29 February 2016 03: 08
            0
            treat right now? the question is not idle
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 26 February 2016 21: 20
      +1
      The helmet could smooth out the concussion, but the blow and the explosion are felt by the whole body, the shock is unambiguous, the hatches are open, and just in case it is sometimes better to leave the car "for a while", it’s just something, ammunition for example ......... ...
    3. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 26 February 2016 21: 38
      +7
      Just the same hunched fighter holding his head in his hands and practically falling from the tank to the ground is very similar to a shell shock. If I saw correctly, then:
      - before entering the hatch is open;
      - after a hit like a fighter throws him back and gets out.
      That means the shockwave slammed shut, which reduced the impact on the crew through it. Although I could be wrong. For the design of the rotary mechanism of the heavy hatch on the T-90, I do not know.
      1. adept666
        adept666 26 February 2016 21: 55
        +5
        Just the same hunched fighter holding his head in his hands and practically falling from the tank to the ground
        1: of course I got it on the ears, almost 5 kg of TNT flew in (that's no joke wassat ), but it’s not a concussion or even easy (read what shell concussion at least on Wikipedia or something smile ) 2: There, the distance of fire is 500-600 meters, most likely the snipers are working, after the vehicle is hit, it is quite natural that they can sit and wait for the tankers to appear from the hatches, so you need to get out and "fall" off the armor as quickly as possible, if he was disoriented, then he would not have been able to get out of the hatch so quickly, all the more he would not have been able to understand where to run (and he ran correctly into the shelter that precisely closes the ATGM position) and by the way, he did not fall out, but ran on bent legs very evenly smile
        - before entering the hatch is open; - after a hit like a fighter throws him back and gets out.
        Which, even with a slight concussion, is physically impossible, since he would at least come to himself for a minute.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 26 February 2016 22: 05
          +4
          Training, training and the desire to live work wonders! A person on autopilot can do a lot of things quickly and correctly without the presence of a reasonable understanding! And in a familiar environment and without vision.
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      2. Sinbad
        Sinbad 27 February 2016 13: 20
        +2
        If the design of the hatch is the same as on the T72, then the non-locked hatch, as we can see, could shut (not close) the shock wave. After hitting, the hatch will open again, since it is spring loaded with a torsion bar. And my own feelings: if during the movement one of the hatches is open and not locked, it hangs, then when it is slammed shut on bumps, sometimes you get an unpleasant blow to the ears, even in the headset. And then the explosion ....
      3. goose
        goose 29 February 2016 10: 54
        0
        Quote: abrakadabre
        That means the shockwave slammed shut, which reduced the impact on the crew through it. Although I could be wrong. For the design of the rotary mechanism of the heavy hatch on the T-90, I do not know.

        Whatever the design, the front of the shock wave unambiguously overtook the lid and drove over the ears, except that the impact was shorter.

        But through the relatively narrow opening of the hatch, this front should be greatly weakened. And if also a headset, then there should not be a concussion.

        Alternatively, the person in the headset could easily "attach" to some protruding device in the tower.
    4. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 26 February 2016 22: 30
      +7
      Quote: adept666
      Something about the fighter flying out of the hatch does not seem

      Here, another point is important - the cops always with a successful defeat of the BBM and MBT captured in the video, show how the BC explodes, the car burns, the crew dies, etc. And here is the hit, the gunner jumped out and that’s it (sic!). Judging by the lack of continuation and bragging, MBT after this episode left the position on its own.
      1. adept666
        adept666 26 February 2016 23: 02
        +1
        Judging by the lack of continuation and bragging, MBT after this episode left the position on its own.
        Probably.
    5. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 27 February 2016 00: 48
      +1
      Something about a fighter departing from a hatch does not seem to be contused, do you even have a little idea what a contusion is and how does a person with such barotravms navigate in space?
      Does he hold his head in his hands so that the headset doesn’t fly off? That's exactly what people who are shell-shocked, stunned, press their palms to their heads.
      1. adept666
        adept666 27 February 2016 09: 17
        +1
        This is exactly what people who are shell-shocked, stunned, press their palms to their heads.
        It was stunned that, naturally, 5 kg of TNT nearby fluttered, and with a concussion even mild, for several minutes he would only try to understand where he is)))
    6. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 28 February 2016 18: 34
      0
      Quote: adept666
      such a concussion and

      It is as if the eggs (not chicken) were in the ears and removed with two pans.
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 26 February 2016 21: 46
    +4
    Quote: adept666
    decided to leave the car in a fever.

    Why are you talking about one tanker in the plural? The video shows how one tank leaves a tank.
    1. adept666
      adept666 26 February 2016 22: 28
      +2
      Why are you talking about one tanker in the plural? The video shows how one tank leaves a tank.
      1: the video is incomplete, and the cut, judging by the ATGM video, flies to the upper left part of the tower, the gunner sits there, he crawls out of the hatch two seconds later (the commander simply wouldn’t have time). Since he survived and is not disoriented, then everyone else is just fine. 2: The driver leaves the car through the sunroof in the bottom, so we wouldn’t have seen this in the video, but since the car didn’t move, it means he also got out. 3: There was a commander who could stay in the car and try to suppress the PDO on his own or left a little later, which is not reflected in the video. I draw conclusions based on logic simply.
  • Locksmith
    Locksmith 26 February 2016 22: 07
    +2
    Quote: adept666
    decided to leave the car in a fever.

    Well, yes, they (the Arabs) always strive to leave the car, even without engaging in battle = however, namaz came, and then a "fox" was drawn nearby, these are not my fantasies, this is a war experience "painted" under the Khokhloma by our military experts. wassat
    1. adept666
      adept666 26 February 2016 22: 34
      +2
      Well, yes, they (the Arabs) always strive to leave the car, even without engaging in battle = however, namaz came, and then a "fox" was drawn nearby, these are not my fantasies, this is a war experience "painted" under the Khokhloma by our military experts.
      Judging by the video (I mean to others), far from everything and specifically in the SAR, the tankers are quite professional and desperate, so I suggest that the philosophical part be omitted, the same Germans at the beginning of the Second World War also didn’t really heroes and left the cars with even not always serious injuries it doesn’t make them bad tankers - they didn’t fight for their Motherland then, but attacked, but when we drove them away for the Don and then they too began to fight to the last without leaving the burning tanks, realizing that Berlin was behind them.
  • Valera999
    Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 30
    -1
    Moreover, there is DZ, in general, Tou is enough to ignore the DZ on the T-90. Then just did not penetrate the T-90 Tou.
  • abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 26 February 2016 21: 31
    +4
    Both the pose of the tanker who got out (as he hunched up and holding his head literally fell from the armor to the ground), and the hatch opened before the hit speak of such a normal shell-shock. No more. Which is not surprising. At such a close distance, a powerful charge of explosives exploded - from the DZ and the rocket itself. Judging by the video, DZ worked normally.
    And if the hatch were closed, the tank could fire an otter with a shell. Moreover, the tower is already turned in the right direction. Little flood and hold.
    But someone on the line of fire is either hot (an open hatch), or the sea knee-deep ...
  • Saburov
    Saburov 27 February 2016 00: 13
    +9
    Quote: cosmos111
    for personnel .... is there a penetration of the armor or not, there will still be infa ....


    Judging by the frames of the video and photo, the DZ worked (this is clearly visible on the fire cloud when hit), he simply sprayed the cumulative, no penetration of the main armor was observed, otherwise the car would have puffed up (smoked). And the gunner-operator most likely received a light concussion (I know for myself, the discomfort in Burdenko was lying around with an explosive tram). At the expense of the Curtain, it was most likely turned off, although the illuminators were open, or the crew was trying to turn it on right now, based on the logic that the tank was under the cover of buildings. Based on all this, it is possible to draw a preliminary conclusion that the crew is poorly trained, firstly, there is no question of maneuvering, if the battle is in an ambush, then the position and viewing angle for the entire crew are poorly selected. And finally, what happens after penetrating the main armor by cumulative .
    1. Saburov
      Saburov 27 February 2016 00: 17
      10
      In fact, even the old T-72s are well protected and I will personally say from my experience that I would go into battle if I choose from all the tanks in the world, namely on 72, since I know this machine well and am trained on it. So the best defense and weapons are between the seat and the tank.
  • Photon
    Photon 27 February 2016 00: 43
    +2
    As a gunner-operator BMD in the distant past, I can say that, this is not very similar to getting ATGM. The visual effects of a cumulative projectile are much more modest. I didn’t see the work of dynamic protection in real life, but judging by some videos, this is it.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 27 February 2016 06: 02
      -2
      Quote: Photon
      The visual effects of a cumulative projectile are much more modest.

      well, YES .... defeat of the T72 tank in northern Aleppo, 16.02.16 in Tanur "TOW 2 ....
      1. dzeredzavkomimu
        dzeredzavkomimu 27 February 2016 17: 38
        +1
        mmmmm, and where can it be seen that this is t 72?
  • yushch
    yushch 26 February 2016 20: 09
    39
    Quote: wanderer_032
    There, the same roller is inserted and the tank is not fixed. And therefore, this is just the speculation of the author of the note from that site the link to which you provided.


    I was very much surprised not by the fact that the tank left, was it or not it will become clear later. I was very surprised that in the fifth year of the war the crew of the tank stupidly put it on the fire director and froze. On the set from Syria, you can clearly see how normal tankers constantly perform a maneuver with a departure to the OP, a shot and instant retreat to cover. The T90 crews were additionally prepared, there was infa about it, a concrete gouging of the crew that would lead to more tragic consequences.
    1. adept666
      adept666 26 February 2016 20: 19
      10
      that in the fifth year of the war, the crew of the tank stupidly put him on the fire director and froze.
      They seemed to be aiming someone, the tank is not a man to peek around the corner, we now know where they were shooting from, and those who were in the tank then sitting from where they know they are on the direct track or not, it could fly from such an enemy from anywhere this is a guerrilla war in urban conditions in its purest form.
      1. i80186
        i80186 26 February 2016 21: 00
        +4
        Quote: adept666
        They seemed to be aiming someone, the tank is not a man to peek around the corner, we now know where they were shooting from, and those who were in the tank then sitting from where they know they are on the direct track or not, it could fly from such an enemy from anywhere this is a guerrilla war in urban conditions in its purest form.

        Well, apparently they knew it. The barrel looks exactly at the ATGM, from the KPVT they shoot there. Apparently they took and drove off the ATGMs, moreover, on the T-90, for protection. A rocket flies at a speed of only 300 m / s, a range of about 1200. Most likely the rocket was not even the first. Perhaps they thought that they had already paid off, so they stood. Maybe because the curtain is turned off. Perhaps the hatches are open because they got out to see.
        1. adept666
          adept666 26 February 2016 21: 31
          +6
          Well, apparently they knew it. The barrel looks exactly at the ATGM
          If they knew, they would shoot, and not stand bluntly. Most likely, it was assumed that there was someone there (for example, there was fire contact from that side with units of the SAR), as if the disguised position of the ATGM was not so easy for tankers to open at a distance of 400-500 meters. Moreover, even if they knew that there was someone there, again, it was far from the fact that there was an ATGM position, they just ran into the PDO, the TOU is of course a portable system, but this is not an RPG, its position must be prepared in advance (if it is not on "wheels ") The range for conventional anti-tank grenade launchers is significant, so they were not afraid, but the whole body did not shine. It is easy to theorize on the couch, and there war is a task that must be completed at any cost.
          from KPVT shoot there. Apparently they took and drove off the ATGM
          Yeah, except for the ATGM there’s nothing to shoot there ... She’s alone in that direction with no options))) Is the ATGM machine gun for you? We went to extinguish))) One shot, then the terrorists dismantle and change their position, too, are not fools and nobody will extinguish PDO tanks for this sniper, there is artillery and aviation.
          The rocket flies at a speed of only 300 m / s, a range of about 1200.
          How did you determine the range? belay
          Most likely the rocket was not even the first
          Well, aki Kalash is direct).
          Perhaps they thought that they had already paid off, so they stood
          If you knew that there were ATGMs and stood there, then it’s not even unintelligence, it’s just some kind of suicide. I think on the T-90 there go the best crews who have vast experience in tank battles in the city.
          Maybe because the curtain is turned off.
          Against systems with guidance over the wire, the curtain is useless.
          Perhaps the hatches are open because they got out to see.
          Where and what to look for? laughing
          1. i80186
            i80186 26 February 2016 23: 49
            +2
            Quote: adept666
            Yeah, except for the ATGM there’s nothing to shoot there ... She’s alone in that direction with no options))) Is the ATGM machine gun for you? We went to extinguish))) One shot, then the terrorists dismantle and change their position, too, are not fools and nobody will extinguish PDO tanks for this sniper, there is artillery and aviation.

            Well, actually the main goal for the tank, after the enemy tank, as it were. Or should the infantry be sent to the fortified position in the forehead? Usually tanks are needed for this, and even if there was not just a tank, but a tank, tank and infantry platoon, it would still have to go and attack. That's why she and the war, they usually do it there, go on the attack. Or because of the peter it was necessary to ask a couple of planes to fly in? Have you heard about reconnaissance in battle, for example? laughing

            Quote: adept666
            How did you determine the range?

            4 seconds from launch to hit, rocket speed known 300m / s.

            Quote: adept666
            Well, aki Kalash is direct).

            2 rounds per minute if anything at TOU. Definitely not the first, apparently the first was launched through the still-working curtain and received in response from the gun. Then we went to take a closer look.

            Quote: adept666
            If you knew that there were ATGMs and stood there, then it’s not even unintelligence, it’s just some kind of suicide. I think on the T-90 there go the best crews who have vast experience in tank battles in the city.

            You just don’t absolutely understand what war is. In your opinion, the infantryman does not need to attack in any case, if the enemy has a machine gun, and even more so a machine gun. laughing

            Quote: adept666
            Where and what to look for?

            As if through binoculars it is usually better seen than through surveillance devices, all of a sudden. And the curtain needs to be turned off, like if you open the hatches, or it generally happens there automatically, so that the smoke grenade would not be automatically shot into the head. Well, I didn’t have a T-90A, I definitely won’t tell the procedure. smile

            Did you see the real tank, or just play toys? At least read books about the war. smile
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 27 February 2016 00: 31
              +6
              Quote: i80186
              2 rounds per minute if anything at TOU. Definitely not the first, apparently the first was launched through the still-working curtain and received in response from the gun. Then we went to take a closer look.

              For the first time in the world tank building on the serial domestic tanks T-80UK (1987) and T-90 were installed KOEP TShU-1-7 "Shtora-1". The Shtora complex provides warnings to the crew about laser irradiation of the tank in the spectral range of 0.7-2.5 microns and provides protection against ATGMs with IR-coordinators (types "Toy", "Milan", "Hot", "Dragon", etc.), by setting up active jamming, as well as complexes with laser heads with passive homing - such as the guided projectile "Koperhead", KUV "Lahat", ATGM "Hellfire", etc. by setting up multispectral aerosol curtains that extinguish laser radiation.
              The complex also allows you to quickly search for an attacking TCP, not only with the aim of passive protection with a curtain, but also with the goal of suppressing a TCP with fire from your own weapons. After determining the direction to the laser emitter, the complex provides an alert to the operator and, upon his command, the sight turns in the direction of exposure until its line of sight is aligned with the direction to the emitter.
            2. adept666
              adept666 27 February 2016 10: 00
              0
              Well, actually the main goal for the tank, after the enemy’s tank, as it were

              So they were engaged in the combat use of tanks? Oh well... laughing
              Or should the infantry be sent to the fortified position in the forehead?
              This is not a fortified position, but a PDO (disguised firing position), which the tank cannot open, for such purposes it is a white hare against a black background. Such a thing is put somewhere behind the fence (only a small part sticks out) and they wait, the bait platoon starts reconnaissance in battle and then retreats, bringing the tank to the PDO, a shot-defeat of the tank, a change of position and no second shots are just like snipers have.
              4 seconds from launch to hit, rocket speed known 300m / s.
              278m / s and this is the maximum speed, the average trajectory is 240-250 m / s. And the video shows that about 1000 meters range.
              That's why she and the war, they usually do it there, go on the attack. Or because of the peter it was necessary to ask a couple of planes to fly in? Have you heard about reconnaissance in battle, for example?
              Well, just like Chapai drafts bare! Scouts or snipers open the position of ATGMs, then if I’m a sniper, then I work off by myself hitting elements of ATGMs or operators, if the scouts then they direct artillery (you can of course direct the tank, but then it would taxi out from behind the wall, shoot and roll back and so continued to shell the position). In the same way, the positions of snipers are affected if there are none in the unit or their qualifications are insufficient. Now it’s not 42 years that reconnaissance in battle with tanks is carried out at an ATGM position. laughing
              2 rounds per minute if anything at TOU. Definitely not the first, apparently the first was launched through the still-working curtain and received in response from the gun. Then we went to take a closer look.
              I suppose you held a candle there? You have a rich fantasy)))
              You just don’t absolutely understand what war is. In your opinion, the infantryman does not need to attack in any case, if the enemy has a machine gun, and even more so a machine gun.
              Well, where do I go to you theorists laughing
              As if through binoculars it is usually better seen than through surveillance devices, all of a sudden.
              Yeah, they just do the commander with the gunner that they climb on armor with binoculars, in those conditions it is 1000 times more likely to run into a sniper than at a PDO ATGM.
              And the curtain needs to be turned off, like if you open the hatches, or there generally happens automatically
              Well, tell me a connoisseur, as if a curtain that hadn’t even been turned off helped in this case?
              Did you see the real tank, or just play toys?
              Saw.
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 27 February 2016 22: 08
            +3
            Quote: adept666
            How did you determine the range?

            In the video, from the moment of launch until it hits 4 seconds.
            Speed ​​280-320 m \ s. Approximate distance 1200m.
        2. Old old
          Old old 27 February 2016 00: 10
          +4
          Well, apparently they knew it. The barrel looks exactly at the ATGM, from the KPVT they shoot there

          The KPVT is the main BTR machine gun, the tanks have the NSVT anti-aircraft machine gun (old Utes or new Kord).
          1. i80186
            i80186 27 February 2016 00: 25
            0
            Quote: Nursing Old
            The KPVT is the main BTR machine gun, the tanks have the NSVT anti-aircraft machine gun (old Utes or new Kord).

            Well, yes, yes, I generally had a DShK. Reflexively confuse KPVT and NSVT. smile
    2. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 26 February 2016 20: 49
      +4
      Quote: yushch
      On the set from Syria, you can clearly see how normal tankers constantly perform a maneuver with a departure to the OP, a shot and instant retreat to cover. The crews of the T90 were additionally prepared, there was infa about it, a concrete gouging of the crew that would lead to more tragic consequences.


      It’s also not entirely clear to me why, after detecting the enemy’s infantry position, the tank didn’t open artillery fire with OFS to cover everyone at once (well, or to scare the babaev well). Measurement of the range to the target, plus the activation of the AZ for this is necessary. 10-15 sec. Press the trigger for another 1 seconds. And goodbye babai, along with the TOU.
      In addition, the commander and gunner tried to cover the CCA position with fire from PKTM and KORD. It was possible to give mech.vod a command to retreat back for cover, based on the situation. Moreover, this should have been done if there was a technical malfunction of the MSA, or AZ, or some other kind.
      It is quite possible that the crew relied on the high security of the car, once it continued to stand, substituting the car under fire from the ATGM TOU as in a dash.
    3. zennon
      zennon 26 February 2016 21: 52
      -5
      Quote: yushch
      I was very surprised that in the fifth year of the war the crew of the tank stupidly put it on the fire director and froze.

      And I was surprised that they turned off the "Curtain". With a working curtain, it is not realistic to set the TOU.
      1. rJIiOK
        rJIiOK 26 February 2016 22: 32
        +1
        And where does the curtain work here?
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 26 February 2016 23: 24
          -8
          Quote: rJIiOK
          And where does the curtain work here?

          Yes, here is a flash at 40 second, this is probably the shot of the curtain towards the projectile.
      2. goose
        goose 29 February 2016 11: 30
        0
        Quote: zennon
        With a working curtain, TOU is not realistic

        What is true, even with wires lead?
  • avia1991
    avia1991 26 February 2016 21: 36
    +5
    Quote: wanderer_032
    tank withdrawal is not fixed. And according to this, this is just speculation

    Good. Tell us what you personally saw in this video? Or here, in your opinion, not speculation?
    This is similar to a picture falling into dynamic protection: a lot of noise, fire and smoke - but in fact the armor fused from the outside, and the crew’s perfect mat ..
    I'm not talking about this particular case, it's unclear here. But it’s too early to lower the “finger down”. At least, the obvious consequences of the hit - fire, explosion of ammunition, immovable, after a while, a tank - is not observed here!
    Weak for any statements - don't you find?
  • SSR
    SSR 26 February 2016 21: 37
    +2
    Quote: wanderer_032
    There, the same roller is inserted and the tank is not fixed. And therefore, this is just the speculation of the author of the note from that site the link to which you provided.

    The broads cut this part of the video, it was not profitable for them to show the entire video.
    PS
    Sometimes read comments on the videos themselves on the resources.
  • Reklastik
    Reklastik 26 February 2016 22: 17
    +1
    but the page is missing ... http://defendingrussia.ru/a/tank_t90_vyzhil_posle_popadanija_amerikanskoj_rakety
    % 20_video-5245 /
  • Res_Ullus
    Res_Ullus 27 February 2016 00: 13
    +1
    REFERENCE PAGE 404
  • behemot
    behemot 27 February 2016 09: 45
    0
    the article at the link: "The footage shows how the stunned Syrian tanker got out of the unharmed T-90, and then left on it."
    the same video, "left" on it not
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  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 26 February 2016 19: 23
    35
    hit TOW-2 ATGM in the Syrian tank T-90A

    The conclusion is this: the praised TOU-2 does not take the T-90 export sample EVEN with the protective systems turned off! Now, let them put their own know-how to check on America. Well, you yourself know where! laughing good
    1. johnny
      johnny 26 February 2016 19: 56
      +9
      T-90A is not an export sample only.
    2. adept666
      adept666 26 February 2016 20: 08
      +7
      The conclusion is this: the praised TOU-2 does not take the T-90 export sample EVEN with the protective systems turned off!
      So they are useless in this case, TOW is controlled by wires or by radio, i.e. the operator is aiming, but not "fire-forget", but the dynamic protection worked for 5+
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 26 February 2016 22: 27
        +4
        Quote: adept666
        dynamic protection worked at 5+

        I agree with you 100%. Otherwise, the detonation of ammunition and fuel tanks. God grant that two crew members survive.
        1. goose
          goose 29 February 2016 11: 55
          0
          Quote: kapitan92
          I agree with you 100%. Otherwise, the detonation of ammunition and fuel tanks. God grant that two crew members survive.

          Why would they rush if, according to the instructions, the shells are only in the combat unit in the floor, and the tanks are not empty, in another place and without fuel vapor?
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      1. adept666
        adept666 26 February 2016 20: 34
        +6
        GETTING TO THE TOWER Forehead THERE IS THE MOST STRONG ARMOR IF EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SHOCKED ON THE BOARD
        If my grandmother had eggs, then she would be a grandfather, as you know. And yet, the forehead of the T-90’s tower, specifically in the area of ​​the gun’s mask (and judging by the video, it flew there), is one of the most vulnerable spots, because there the DZ is poorly profiled.
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 February 2016 23: 26
      +1
      It was the 90th 90th years of release - the earliest modification.
  • Samaritan
    Samaritan 26 February 2016 20: 36
    +7
    And here is a movie where tow unexpectedly goes into the ground: http: //m.rg.ru/2016/02/26/amerikanskij-ptur-oslep-ot-sirijskogo-skvorechni
    ka.html
    1. adept666
      adept666 26 February 2016 20: 43
      +4
      here is a movie where tow suddenly goes into the ground
      the operator’s curvature is nothing more, once again the TOU guys are our Baby only with good optics and more convenient controls, he doesn’t have a guidance head, he is guided by the operator through a wire or radio channel. The Americans and our friends wanted to do with TGSN Jews with a semi-active head on a laser beam, but these are projects so far. Even in this video you can hear the wire unwinding.
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 26 February 2016 22: 27
        +1
        The rocket tracer is observed by the operator in the infrared range, if the tracer is illuminated by the "Curtain", then straight-handedness will not help, the target is not visible!
        1. adept666
          adept666 27 February 2016 15: 22
          +1
          The rocket tracer is observed by the operator in the infrared range, if the tracer is illuminated by the "Curtain", then straight-handedness will not help, the target is not visible!
          Something you have mixed everything) The tracer on the rocket, it is in the TOU not even for the operator, in principle, but for the automatic stabilization system so that it understands the spatial position of the ammunition in flight, the rocket on the wire - feedback for issuing control commands. At the operator's optical system, he only guides the crosshair. SHTORA-1 is a system for warning and suppression of laser radiation, the TOU does not follow the laser path, the only thing that the Shtora can drown out is the laser rangefinder of the installation, thereby complicating the operator's control (the distance to the target will have to be calculated "by eye"), and the target is visible and completely not bad for myself.
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      3. ARES623
        ARES623 26 February 2016 22: 58
        +7
        Quote: adept666
        once again guys TOU this is our Baby only with good optics

        Man, do you even imagine the control of Baby? The baby has manual control, this means the operator directly controls the rocket with a joystick. Before the first practical launch, you need to make 1500 electronic ones on the simulator. It is very difficult. Baby - 1st generation ATGM. Toe is the second generation with a missile retention automatic on the line of sight. You need to know the materiel if you link ...
        1. adept666
          adept666 27 February 2016 13: 30
          +1
          Man, do you even imagine the control of Baby? The baby has manual control, this means the operator directly controls the rocket with a joystick.
          Imagine. Can you imagine at TOU the operator also controls the rocket with the joystick and also directly with the handles fellow
          Before the first practical launch, you need to make 1500 electronic ones on the simulator.
          In order to shoot with TOU you also need to practice as if)
          Baby - 1st generation ATGM. The toe is the second generation ... with an automatic rocket hold on the line of sight ... You need to know the materiel if you refer ...
          That's it, if you refer, then you need to know what kind of beast such automatic hold on the line of sight smile So this is where the crosshair operator directs the rocket there and flies (and the processor itself calculates the path and corrects the flight, i.e. the operator does not need to constantly steer, but only direct the crosshair to the object, which you can imagine moving? smile ) therefore
          once again guys TOU this is our Baby only with good optics и more convenient controls, he does not have a guidance head, over the wire or radio channel, it is directed under operator control
          Those. as it were written here, the principle of operation of the guidance system is the same as that of Baby (the operator points and corrects the aiming at the target), and the control system is improved (better joystick, better optical system and automatic stabilization of the trajectory). And this commentary was not written as a comparative analysis, but as an explanation of the principle of action and that the CURTAIN in such a scenario is powerless.
          1. ARES623
            ARES623 27 February 2016 15: 17
            +3
            Quote: adept666
            Exactly if you are referencing, you need to know what kind of beast such an automatic hold on the line of sight means, and this is where the crosshair operator directs the rocket there and flies (and the processor calculates the flight path and corrects the flight, i.e. the operator does not need to constantly steer, but Only direct the crosshair to the object, which can you imagine moving?

            I explain on the fingers: the "baby" is controlled by the operator via wires according to the so-called three-point principle - the target-projectile-target, in the same way the SS 11. To replace it, they developed BGM 71 TOW with semi-automatic control by wires according to the principle of two points - the target - target. So if we are to compare, then by Bassoon or Metis.
            1. adept666
              adept666 27 February 2016 15: 28
              0
              I explain on the fingers: the "baby" is controlled by the operator via wires according to the so-called three-point principle - sighting-projectile-target
              What do you explain to me on the fingers, what have I already painted for you? request
              So if we compare, then the Bassoon or Metis.
              Um ... do you read what you comment on? It was for someone:
              That's it, if you are referencing, you need to know what kind of beast this automatic retention on the line of sight is smile :) So this is where the crosshair operator directs the rocket there and flies (and the processor itself calculates the path and adjusts the flight i.e. the operator does not need to constantly steer, but only guide the crosshair to the object, which can you imagine? smile).
              Those. as it is written here, that the principle of operation of the guidance system is the same as that of Baby (nOperates and corrects targeting by the operator), and the control system is improved (better joystick, better optical system and automatic path stabilization). And this comment was not written as comparative analysis, but as an explanation of the principle of action and that the CURTAIN in such a scenario is powerless.
              Or did you just decide to show off your knowledge of the topic and write a comment for the sake of comment?
              1. ARES623
                ARES623 27 February 2016 15: 45
                +1
                Quote: adept666
                Or did you just decide to show off your knowledge of the topic and write a comment for the sake of comment?

                To show off knowledge with such comments as yours, sorry, no wonder. If you are very sensitive to criticism, then this is your problem. But if you are writing to be read, then try to be precise about such questions. I do not want to offend you, but such errors add up a false picture for those who have not seen the real hardware, but are interested.
    2. goose
      goose 29 February 2016 11: 56
      0
      control wires at the start are clearly visible in the sun.
  • figwam
    figwam 26 February 2016 21: 29
    +4
    Why "Shtora-1" did not work, why "Cloud" was not used, it should be so.
    1. ermak.sidorov
      ermak.sidorov 26 February 2016 23: 17
      +1
      fly off to the side just like at a training ground in a commercial =) thanks for the video!
  • aba
    aba 27 February 2016 02: 28
    0
    By the way, it is claimed that getting into Abrams from ATGM Competition

    1. goose
      goose 29 February 2016 12: 02
      0
      These are not tanks, obviously BC pulled on Abrams
  • PKK
    PKK 27 February 2016 02: 31
    0
    It is surprising that the tank was unacceptably long motionless at the sight of anti-tank weapons. There is no cover. Either it is dead or tankers are not trained, which cannot be, the untrained crew will not be allowed to come close to the tank. Not a word about why the tank is motionless stood under fire, contrary to the tactics used in Syria.
  • PKK
    PKK 27 February 2016 02: 32
    0
    It is surprising that the tank was unacceptably long motionless at the sight of anti-tank weapons. There is no cover. Either it is dead or tankers are not trained, which cannot be, the untrained crew will not be allowed to come close to the tank. Not a word about why the tank is motionless stood under fire, contrary to the tactics used in Syria.
    1. aleksey980
      aleksey980 27 February 2016 17: 04
      +1
      Quote: PKK
      Either deaf or tankers are not trained

      Or staging.
  • MASK
    MASK 26 February 2016 18: 58
    17
    Before the "truce" ... The show begins! Like "do not be afraid of Russia .." This is how they are killed ... Well, try the barmaley!
  • Darkoff
    Darkoff 26 February 2016 19: 09
    17
    Let's hope that each case is understood by specialists in place and conclusions are drawn.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 26 February 2016 19: 12
    16
    Quote: maxiban
    I read on other media that the tank itself had left. One thing I can say is that if the tank had really been hit, then the broads would definitely have shot it.

    And these donkeys (daish-donkey in Arabic) do you know any other combinations of sounds besides alauogbar? It seems that behind the scenes a crowd of goblins! lol
    1. sichevik
      sichevik 26 February 2016 19: 36
      +8
      Quote: GSH-18
      Quote: maxiban
      I read on other media that the tank itself had left. One thing I can say is that if the tank had really been hit, then the broads would definitely have shot it.

      And these donkeys (daish-donkey in Arabic) do you know any other combinations of sounds besides alauogbar? It seems that behind the scenes a crowd of goblins! lol

      And what about donkeys, that baboons, that raguli are the same everywhere. With the convolutions strained. Some always scream alauogbar, others scream about saluronil - the heroes lied !!! That some, that other monuments ruin. Continuous insanity.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 26 February 2016 19: 40
        +3
        Quote: sichevik
        And what about donkeys, that baboons, that raguli are the same everywhere. With the convolutions strained. Some always scream alauogbar, others scream about saluronil - the heroes lied !!! That some, that other monuments ruin. Continuous insanity.

        Slag is having fun .. But not for long! laughing
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 26 February 2016 21: 52
      +6
      daish donkey in Arabic


      MUCH INSURED!
    3. northern
      northern 27 February 2016 14: 34
      +1
      barmalean language

      1. "shaitan" is the only legal expletive
      2. "allayavbar" - all other words
  • HARDDEN_KMV
    HARDDEN_KMV 26 February 2016 19: 38
    +3
    and not removed because of further unnecessary "movements"! The main thing is that the tank was saved by the crew and the people who were alive inside! And it is clear that the complex of optoelectronic suppression is "sleeping"! Not weird? The Syrian army, knowing that ISIS is using anti-tank weapons (and it goes without saying in most of the laser) did not include a means of protection ...
  • sufix
    sufix 26 February 2016 20: 08
    +5
    Explain, maybe I don’t understand something. As far as I know, TOU-2 flies 3-4 meters above the ground, flying over a target causes an explosion of directional action. Thus, the tank is defeated from the least protected side - from above. Now the question is: what kind of rocket flies into the front of the tower, if it should fly over the tank?
    1. i80186
      i80186 26 February 2016 20: 46
      +4
      Quote: sufix
      Explain, maybe I don’t understand something. As far as I know, TOU-2 flies 3-4 meters above the ground, flying over a target causes an explosion of directional action. Thus, the tank is defeated from the least protected side - from above. Now the question is: what kind of rocket flies into the front of the tower, if it should fly over the tank?

      TOW-2 are different. And they can also fly in different ways. You are talking about TOW-2B, yes there is an impact core, but even it does not replace, but simply complements TOW-2A.
  • RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 26 February 2016 20: 22
    +4
    Not the fact, as the barrel was noticed, it was brought to the operator, one crew member crawled out, the rest remained, my personal opinion "Wahhababakhs" were afraid of return fire, so they quickly left without waiting for their death, or maybe they waited ...
  • gergi
    gergi 26 February 2016 20: 52
    +5
    Luke didn’t close it, he’s got it over his ears. But there was no penetration, otherwise no one from the inside would have jumped out.
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 26 February 2016 21: 05
    +4
    "Curtain" is not included. Syrian tankers slept in one boot. DZ worked. I'm sure the tank left by itself. If not, they wouldn't cut the video. I am also sure that when the "Curtain" is turned on and the rocket goes up, they will definitely not publish such a video.
  • Locksmith
    Locksmith 26 February 2016 21: 58
    +2
    Quote: maxiban
    One thing I can say is that if the tank had really been hit, then the broads would definitely have shot it.
    On this side, the one who painlessly climbed out of the tower "sits". If only there had been a serious defeat, no one would have got out from there, the cannon divides the compartment in half, so I think that as our "partners" say -... nothing terrible happened, everything is in the normal mode .... losses -0 !!!
  • RDX
    RDX 27 February 2016 01: 07
    +2
    you need to contact Anna News in order to enlighten on this issue
    1. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 27 February 2016 02: 34
      +1
      Quote: RDX
      you need to contact Anna News in order to enlighten on this issue

      There is, thank God, among the tankers of the Syrian army real professionals.
  • pine tree
    pine tree 28 February 2016 01: 26
    0
    someone even in an.g..l.s.o.s..s..s.o ... ii. said on TV that he can’t ride
  • GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 28 February 2016 13: 39
    0
    I read that the tank itself left
    Most likely, even if we assume that they have run out of battery or run out of memory on the device, they still quickly find something else for such a moment.
  • iliya87
    iliya87 29 February 2016 16: 54
    0
    And where is the link? which you attached is a standard video which is on all resources and it is not visible on it how the tank leaves. Did you watch the video itself? Or just read the article title?
  • tiketa55
    tiketa55 29 February 2016 18: 47
    0
    Don’t worry, the curtain worked fine, just the commander collapsed and ticked out of the tank.
  • Kars
    Kars 26 February 2016 18: 51
    68
    Until the video appears in the trophies of the barmalei, the tank is considered to have gone under its own power.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 26 February 2016 18: 57
      +9
      Well what to say. It is not clear and the tanks are all knocked out. Wait for your mother, wait for your mother. (game)
  • sever.56
    sever.56 26 February 2016 18: 53
    50
    Let those who rejoice, looking at these footage, remember how the vaunted Abrams in Iraq and Yemen had their towers torn away from being hit by old RPG-7s, and the crew turned into stuffing. There was no explosion of the BC, the tanker got out. If the barmaley had footage of the tank burning, its turret was torn off - it would certainly have been posted.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 26 February 2016 19: 00
      +7
      Quote: sever.56
      the tower was torn off from getting from the old RPG-7 ...!

      And for this reason, the SGA began the production of counterfeit RPG-7! However, like the AK-47 with modern body kits! In a word, thieves!
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 26 February 2016 19: 16
      +7
      Quote: sever.56
      remember how the vaunted "Abrams" in Iraq and Yemen tore the towers from being hit from the old RPG-7
      Well, let's say, not from the RPG-7, but from the Soviet anti-tank missile systems of the "Fagot" type, developed in the 60s of the last century. Which is also impressive.
      Quote: sever.56
      There was no explosion of the BC, the tankman got out.
      Or panicked, or shell-shocked. The second is most likely.
      Quote: sever.56
      If the barmalei had shots of how the tank was burning, its tower was torn off - they would certainly have been laid out.
      Without a doubt! The screams "Allahu akbar" are not proof of the destruction of the T-90.
      1. Alex 1972
        Alex 1972 26 February 2016 19: 31
        +2
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Or panicked, or shell-shocked. The second is most likely.

        Most likely both.
      2. sever.56
        sever.56 26 February 2016 19: 33
        0
        I will not argue with you, but in the program "Military Secret" on Ren-TV, one of the plots was devoted to this, with footage, as in Iraq, it was from the RPG-7 that the Abrams was destroyed. The tower was thrown ten meters away. Yes, and I saw this on other resources.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 26 February 2016 21: 50
          +3
          It is impossible to throw away a multi-ton tower with an RPG-7 charge without detonation of a BC, in whole or in part. The charge is too small and it is consumed outside the tank. On the formation of a cumulative jet.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 26 February 2016 19: 16
      +4
      Quote: sever.56
      If the barmalei had shots of how the tank was burning, its tower was torn off - they would certainly have been laid out.

      It seems to me in the next couple of minutes, the jubilant goblins turned around when the "wrecked tank" turned the tower in their direction lol Another lohopropaganda donkeys.
  • rafaelich
    rafaelich 26 February 2016 18: 54
    12
    It is clear that a spectacular explosion of barmalei added to the vidos
    the tank was not injured at all, despite the shutter off (no red lights)!
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 26 February 2016 19: 14
      0
      Everyone writes about the "curtain" that is disabled .. what is it and why is it disabled?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 26 February 2016 19: 18
        14
        Shtora-1 - a complex of electro-optical active protection
        It protects against:
        anti-tank guided missiles using laser target illumination;
        artillery weapons having a fire control system with a laser rangefinder;
        anti-tank guided missiles with a semi-automatic command guidance system.
        Composition:
        4 sensors for detecting laser radiation, range 0,65 ... 1,6 microns;
        ATGM control channel radiation detection sensor (ATGM);
        smoke grenade launchers (12 units);
        two infrared searchlights, weather station sensor.

        For more details see http://btvt.narod.ru/4/shtora1/shtora1.htm

        And here is what a non-disabled (working) "Curtain" looks like when shooting:

        The fact is that the range of cameras is wider than that of the human eye - and captures including IR (I once checked this "at home" - whether the IR LED of the remote control works). Therefore, it is immediately clear whether the searchlights (and the complex) are working or not.
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 26 February 2016 20: 49
          +6
          Quote: Alexey RA
          The fact is that the range of cameras is wider than that of the human eye - and captures including

          that's for sure ...

          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 26 February 2016 21: 00
            +3
            Quote: cosmos111
            that's for sure ...


            Greetings. Thanks Andrew for the pictures. Helped a lot.
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 26 February 2016 21: 58
              0
              Quote: wanderer_032
              for the pictures. Helped a lot.

              Alexander hi
              always glad .... true more expensive than talk .....
              read what the "effective manager" is about this ...

              info s:http://vz.ru//politics/2016/2/26/724642.html
        2. qwaigon
          qwaigon 26 February 2016 22: 44
          0
          How does this curtain work in general, does it automatically turn on for laser irradiation or should it be constantly on? If the laser rangefinder is not used, then how does the curtain work?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 29 February 2016 10: 07
            0
            Quote: qwaigon
            How does this curtain work in general, does it automatically turn on for laser irradiation or should it be constantly on? If the laser rangefinder is not used, then how does the curtain work?

            It's simple: the Curtain includes 2 systems that work independently.
            The first consists of laser radiation sensors and grenades and is designed to automatically counter anti-tank systems with a laser guidance system. This system detects laser tank irradiation and automatically shoots grenades into the sector, placing an aerosol curtain that hides the tank and scattering laser radiation. This system really only works when irradiated and, allegedly, does not work when the tank’s hatches are open.
            The second system consists of 2 "dual purpose" IR illuminators. They can serve both for target illumination at night, and for countering ATGMs with guidance via wires or radio channel - by suppressing feedback from ATGMs to launchers (IR radiation "clogs" the sensor on the launcher, which determines the current coordinates of the ATGM). This system protects the tank in the "bow sector" of the tower and must be turned on manually (after which it works continuously until it is turned off).
            Let me quote Baron:
            In the "Illumination" mode, one of the emitters is switched on, fixed with a stopper in the position when the light axis of the emitter is set parallel to the axis of the gun barrel. The optical diffuser is removed, and a filter is installed in its place. In this case, the radiation divergence diagram of the illuminator narrows to a level that ensures reliable operation with a night vision device. Search and target recognition are performed in the same way as in the prototype, by orienting the gun barrel towards the target and a radiator connected to it through a parallelogram mechanism.

            In the "Counter" mode, scatterers should be installed on both emitters, and the emitters themselves must be turned through an angle a, corresponding to half of the radiation divergence angle b, and fixed again. The turn of two symmetrically installed emitters relative to the axis of the gun barrel allows you to obtain a protection sector.

            The emitters are switched on manually by the operator, for example, when approaching the zone of a possible attack from the enemy. After switching on, the radiation flux from the source formed by the reflector passes through a red filter (KS-19 glass), which filters out ultraviolet and visible radiation to a wavelength of 0,7 μm. The red filter is hermetically mounted on the case of the emitter, that is, at the place where the infrared filter was heated in the prototype, heated from the radiation source, which led to a decrease in its transmission in the range of 0,8.1,0 μm and, as a result, to a decrease in the efficiency of the barrier interference. The red filter has better stability during heating than the IR filter, removes a smaller fraction of the radiant flux energy, and the removable IR filter or diffuser installed behind it is in more comfortable conditions due to the presence of an air cavity that reduces heat transfer from the red filter.

            When using a searchlight installation in the “counteraction” mode at a distance of 2,0-2,5 km from the object, a continuous ATG suppression zone with IR coordinators up to 680-840 m in front is created.
    2. Alex 1972
      Alex 1972 26 February 2016 19: 28
      +1
      Quote: rafaelich
      despite the shutter off (no red lights)!

      Not the fact that the curtain was shut off.
      On YouTube, people wrote down the opinion that the barmalei fired direct fire and did not turn on the laser range finder, or this is a more modern version of the TOU which does not have laser guidance at all.
      1. Herman
        Herman 26 February 2016 19: 47
        +4
        The tou does not have a laser rangefinder at all, no modifications, except only in self-propelled ones.
      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 26 February 2016 20: 52
        +2
        Quote: Alexey 1972
        On YouTube, people wrote down the opinion that the barmalei fired direct fire and did not turn on the laser range

        more consistent with the truth ... they write with 800 meters shot.

        info s:http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/26-february-short-range-800m-tow-strike-anni
        hilating-t72
    3. Pajamas
      Pajamas 26 February 2016 19: 32
      -1
      What does the "curtain" have to do with it if the guidance in this case is by wire.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 26 February 2016 19: 56
        +8
        Quote: Pajama
        What does the "curtain" have to do with it if the guidance in this case is by wire.


        this is wire management
        and the calculations for this very control are based on the identification of the location of the missile ir-marker in space.
      2. figwam
        figwam 26 February 2016 21: 51
        +3
        What does the "curtain" have to do with it if the guidance in this case is by wire.

        The TOW operator directs the sighting mark on the tank, launches the rocket, then the operator's task is to keep the crosshair on the target, at this time the launch complex issues control signals over the wire to the rocket trying to combine the infrared glow of the rocket located in the rear with the sighting mark. When the T-90 "Blind" is on, TOW will see a large illumination in the same infrared range as in the rear of the rocket, so the system loses sight of the rocket and can no longer control it, the rocket goes to the side.
      3. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 26 February 2016 23: 45
        0
        Quote: Pajama
        What does the "curtain" have to do with it if the guidance in this case is by wire.

        The missile guidance is command, semi-automatic, carried out by the operator, control is carried out by wire (in the latest modification - TOW-2B Aero with a radio channel).
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought 26 February 2016 18: 54
    14
    Even if the ATGM hit the tank, the crew remained alive, you can see how the person leaves the tank, which means the armor is strong, but it's a shame that the "Shtora" did not work, or maybe it was inoperative, but the battles are serious, and she received damage.
    1. opus
      opus 26 February 2016 19: 17
      12
      Quote: Thought Giant
      it's just a shame that "Blind" does not сworked

      "Curtain" did not work


      The Shtora-1 complex provides: jamming in the form of modulated infrared radiation affecting the semi-automatic missile control system; automatic shooting of an aerosol-forming grenade in the direction of the laser illumination source and overlapping this direction with an aerosol curtain, determining the direction to the laser illumination source and issuing a command to turn the tank tower in the indicated direction, light and sound signaling when the tank is irradiated with laser target guns and rangefinders, setting a masking aerosol curtain in front of the tank.


      Launch of protective grenades from the T90 tank at the UralExpoArmz-2001 exhibition


    2. tomket
      tomket 26 February 2016 20: 53
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Even if the ATGM hit the tank, the crew remained alive, you can see how the person leaves the tank, which means the armor is strong, but it's a shame that the "Shtora" did not work, or maybe it was inoperative, but the battles are serious, and she received damage.

      And no one thought about why a seemingly whole tankman escapes from a whole tank? The durability of the crew was not at the level.
      1. rammjager
        rammjager 26 February 2016 22: 10
        12
        Oh dear. And how many hits in the tank have you personally experienced?
      2. Valera999
        Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 35
        0
        Are you sure that this Syrian ran away ???
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 26 February 2016 21: 15
      +4
      Quote: Giant thought
      Even if the ATGM hit the tank, the crew remained alive, you can see how the person leaves the tank, which means the armor is strong, but it's a shame that the "Shtora" did not work, or maybe it was inoperative, but the battles are serious, and she received damage.

      I am not special, but I think that with a direct hit in a tank such a large volume of explosion would not be. The explosion covered the whole tank. So DZ worked ...
      1. rammjager
        rammjager 26 February 2016 22: 14
        +1
        I don’t understand what the problem is. They knocked out a tank! And WHAT? This is a war. There are sometimes tows. We haven’t heard of these Curtains.
  • Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 26 February 2016 18: 57
    24
    As everyone noticed, the hatch was open during the hit, the guy was completely concussed, so he broke.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 26 February 2016 19: 37
      +1
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      As everyone noticed, the hatch was open during the hit, the guy was completely concussed, so he broke.

      It was hot along the way .. not Siberia however lol The guy just jumped out to smoke while the commander with the gunner (this is not really present in the video of the goblins) turned the tower and pointed the gun at the idiots with the Mrakos pipe! am
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 26 February 2016 20: 17
        +2
        The gunner also jumped out like
  • xam0
    xam0 26 February 2016 18: 57
    42
    The "curtain" is not turned on, the hatches are open during the battle! There is still a lot of wisdom to drive the crew through the rear gate, there is something for them to work on, while all this carelessness you get rid of the Syrians. But all the same, the work of our specialists is noticeable - the number of destroyed tanks has dropped significantly lately. So the results are still there.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 February 2016 19: 04
      +4
      Quote: xam0
      the number of wrecked tanks in recent years has fallen significantly.

      Are there any statistics?
      1. xam0
        xam0 26 February 2016 19: 20
        +3
        Statistics are laid out monthly on tweets and on specialized forum forums on the military operations in Syria. Searched very easily if desired.
        You can also judge by the number of videos with the hit of tanks that are laid out on the Internet, it has fallen sharply over the past couple of months.
    2. figwam
      figwam 26 February 2016 22: 06
      +1
      The "curtain" is not turned on, the hatches are open during the battle!

      The hatches are specially left open, in case of defeat, the hatch can jam, the tanker does not have time to get out.
    3. Valera999
      Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 36
      -1
      But all the same, the work of our specialists is noticeable - the number of wrecked tanks in recent years has fallen significantly.

      Well, the specialists themselves managed 100% infa
  • Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 26 February 2016 18: 58
    +3
    Even if the tank is knocked down, so what? War ... And invulnerable equipment does not happen in principle.

    Is it true that with a successful hit, the T-90, like the T-72, detonates the ammunition and the crew comes with a tank?
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 26 February 2016 19: 19
      10
      Quote: Galich Kos
      Upon a successful hit, the T-90 detonates BC as well as the T-72

      Truth. Like all other tanks. yes Everyone has. Some are more inclined, others less, but inside they all have explosives and hundreds of liters of fuel.
      It all depends on what and where you got to. Sometimes even a few shells do not hit, but other times and anti-tank missiles or NSV inflict "unacceptable damage."
      It is foolish to think that the T-90 or even the MBT on the Armat platform is irreplaceable for the TCP.
      Another thing is that there is a concept probability of defeat ...
      And to get less, you must be able to fight.
    2. Forest
      Forest 26 February 2016 20: 08
      0
      As one smart person said, when they know where to shoot, even a washing machine explodes. The Iraqi and Saudi Abrams, too, have a tendency to urgently eject the tower when they are exactly getting into something exploding.
    3. Served once
      Served once 26 February 2016 20: 11
      37
      I myself am a tanker, a driver-mechanic. A tank is generally an iron box, with limited visibility and information about what is happening around. Rely on technology (electronics), but don’t make a mistake yourself. Training, knowledge, detailed elaboration of actions, and then no TOU is scary. And in battle ... Also, luck should accompany. It is difficult to become a single whole mechanic-driver with the commander (well, or the gunner, depending on the model). Both of them, by their actions, can either save or destroy the crew and the vehicle. the trigger of a machine gun or pressure on the gas pedal are symbols of success in the confrontation. "If you peer into the abyss for a long time, it begins to peer at you." This crew peered at my opinion for too long, but I have no right to judge. I was not there. everyone survived. hi
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 26 February 2016 20: 52
        +2
        Quote: Served once
        "If you gaze into the abyss for a long time, it begins to gaze into you"


        That's right. laughing And something bad can come from this abyss. Which is what happened.
        1. Served once
          Served once 26 February 2016 21: 16
          +8
          There are all kinds of cases. You crawl, crawl along these crooked streets. You think about a mine or a land mine. Suddenly, once in front of you, a boy with an RPG has grown recourse And then the dilemma is to press the pedal and turn it into mincemeat, or play in nobility. The first wins. I want to live.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 26 February 2016 21: 22
        +3
        Quote: Served once
        I am a tanker myself, a driver, a tank. In general, a tank is an iron box with limited visibility and information about what is happening around. Learning, knowledge, a detailed study of the actions, and then no TOU is terrible. And in battle ... There must also be luck. It is difficult to become a single mechanic-driver with a commander (or a gunner, depending on the model). And that and the other, by their actions, can either save or destroy the crew and the car. Timely pressed machine gun trigger or pressure on the gas pedal are symbols of success in the confrontation.

        I have crusts of a tractor driver, but not a tanker, but nonetheless, I read and watched that in dangerous situations, the driver puts the gear into gear and waits for the command. And in some cases it doesn’t wait, and after the shot it tears forward ... or back ...
        1. Served once
          Served once 26 February 2016 21: 34
          +1
          I can’t say anything about this. Different wars, different situations, different weapons. The equipment does not stand still. But with today's means of hitting armored vehicles, I personally don’t really want to hatch back into the hatch. And to include the rear or front is from The situation depends on. And the mechanic is a deaf and shell-shocked person. The best headset is a kirzach kick, in the back or on the head, depending on the model of the armored miracle that you are controlling at the moment. There are models in which they cannot reach wink
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 26 February 2016 22: 35
            10
            Served once
            But with today's means of defeating armored vehicles, I personally personally don’t really want to hatch back

            I don’t understand, before a shot of a VV you get out a tank silt? Are you reluctant to climb back after firing a tank or after hitting a tank?
            One movie hero said:
            -Main speed and fire!
            Shaw, still do not believe in speed and fire?

            1. Served once
              Served once 26 February 2016 23: 02
              +9
              A vivid example! I want a "seabass" Fortunately, there was where to go and pick up speed. Well, I was lucky that the bearded didn’t bury the land mine. As for me, I’m old already to ride along the hatches. Let the youth train. In my training, there was ensign Kravchuk. 150kg of weight, round belly. Afgan behind his shoulders. Trained us "pregnant cockroaches" to jump into the fur-water hatch. Well, we "gently" boot on a piece, then on the armor, then into the hatch. It turns out 1-2-3. He says, the very first shelling, at best 3 out of ten will have time to fly into this hatch. And he showed how to fly in there. The account was once, and he is already there. I am very grateful to him for the science hi
            2. Valera999
              Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 43
              -1
              Honestly, you already got it with this video. Even Abrams can not be punched in the forehead (and if exported, then even more so). The video shows that armor does not break into the tank at such angles, that's all, a filler to help.
      3. qwaigon
        qwaigon 26 February 2016 22: 47
        +2
        How does this curtain work in general, does it automatically turn on for laser irradiation or should it be constantly on? If the laser rangefinder is not used, then how does the curtain work?
        1. Valera999
          Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 45
          -1
          Or maybe the Curtain with open Hatchways cars. disconnected))
        2. Manul
          Manul 28 February 2016 02: 27
          0
          Quote: qwaigon
          How does this curtain work in general, does it automatically turn on for laser irradiation or should it be constantly on? If the laser rangefinder is not used, then how does the curtain work?

          There are different ATGMs. On those that are by wire, the Curtain does not work. The most interesting is this question, and the specialists are silent. As far as I understand, Shtora is not just infrared searchlights, but a "complex". That is, there is a "radar" that registers laser radiation, and maybe scanning the infrared range. If so, then the searchlights do not need to burn constantly. This very sensor will turn on the searchlights during the flight of the ATGM rocket.
  • wild
    wild 26 February 2016 18: 58
    +2
    The tankman jumped out of a panic, justified ... I am after a babah.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 03
      17
      Quote: wild
      The tankman jumped out of a panic, justified ... I am after a babah.


      He jumped out due to the shell shock that he received as a result of the undermining of the TOW warhead and the KDZ operation. The hatches were open. This is evident because he pressed his hands to his ears when he jumped out of the tank.
  • SG11
    SG11 26 February 2016 18: 59
    +4
    war is war. running the tank in battle. ours will draw conclusions. By the way, maybe this dynamic protection worked? are there any specialists here?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 26 February 2016 19: 34
      22
      The simplest conclusions:

      - beat hands, pinch fingers with a hatch, smash a hookah and pour the mate right in front of the crew. Hatches should be closed, it is driven in during training. Hatches are open, this can be seen in the video, as well as the jumping tanker covered his ears with his hands - a characteristic gesture for a concussion. The result - surely a numb wave struck, which would not have happened if the hatch had been closed, even when breaking through.

      - hit on the head with a manual on the technique, take an exam, conduct exercises. He stood in front of the position of the militants and did not take any action to counter and increase his own defense, such as moving from one building to another, with short stops to fire, turning on jamming equipment (not the fact that the Tou of this modification will lose the aim signal, but chance is better than nothing).
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 26 February 2016 20: 43
        -19 qualifying.
        The crew and the tank were lucky because fired from TOW-2 ..
        If the TOW-2B had been shot, no one would have got out of the tank (with the "curtain" disabled) ..
        Serve according to the Charter - you will win honor and glory.
        1. Don36
          Don36 26 February 2016 21: 03
          11
          Sorry, but your video does not show what kind of T-72 it is. T-72 built in the USSR and T-72 built in Iraq and called T-72 "Lion of Babylon" or "Sadam", this is a big difference. The export version of the T-72 `` Ural '' of the 1975 model did not have active armor and had thinner armor than the tanks that were used by the USSR. The most advanced model of the T-72, which was exported, was the T-72S, but it was inferior to the T-72B that went into service with the USSR army. The export T-72S, model 1987, had 155 containers of reactive armor, and the Soviet Army T-72B had 227 containers of explosive reactive armor. Since 1988, the T-72B (M) was produced, which became the most advanced modification of the T-72, produced in the USSR, but such tanks were not sold abroad, they went only to the USSR army. Regarding the T-90, we can confidently say that the armor is not broken, because the tanker crawls out of the hatch located exactly in the part of the turret where the missile hit. I would not be surprised if this is generally computer graphics and the whole recording is just a fake.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 26 February 2016 21: 53
            0
            Quote: Don36
            I would not be surprised if this is generally computer graphics and the entire recording is just a fake.

            Fake, just in the previous video - where the tank explodes even before the rocket hits.
            1. Tra-ta-ta
              Tra-ta-ta 26 February 2016 22: 00
              -9
              Yes, you see how TOW-2B works for a start, and then minus it ..!
              Explosive package for him is not a problem ...
              Only the "curtain" .. (?) .. no reliable facts.
              1. lelikas
                lelikas 26 February 2016 22: 30
                10
                Quote: Tra-ta-ta
                Yes, you see how TOW-2B works for a start, and then minus it ..!
                Explosive package for him is not a problem ...
                Only "curtain" .. (?) .. no reliable facts

                Firstly - I’m not minus just like that, unlike hamsters and my minus is not here.
                Secondly, I know how it works.
                Thirdly, even the authors of this, ADVERTISING video themselves recognized that it was a fake and a tank they blew themselves. hi
          2. ammunition
            ammunition 27 February 2016 01: 25
            0
            Quote: Don36
            I would not be surprised if this is generally computer graphics and the entire recording is just a fake.


            More like a layout from regular rental. Well at least not from plywood laughing
          3. Valera999
            Valera999 27 February 2016 23: 47
            -2
            Specifically, everything is exactly what modification of the T-72 or T-90 (early) roof of the tower for Ptur is like butter for a knife
        2. Themi30
          Themi30 26 February 2016 22: 04
          11
          For distributing videos from this YouTube channel you need to give a ban!
          Tra-ta-ta
          ps this advertising video is very well-known and old, UVZ obtained recognition from this video that the tank was stuffed with explosives, so there’s no need to rub anything here, the tank was blown up.
          1. Tra-ta-ta
            Tra-ta-ta 26 February 2016 22: 23
            -8
            Do not be lazy and still study the mat.part of TOW-2B ...
            An Israeli rocket also hits from above. You are somewhere behind ... crying
            1. Themi30
              Themi30 26 February 2016 22: 42
              +4
              Tra-ta-ta
              Do not be too lazy to study the history of the hype around this video, otherwise it seems to me that you are the only laggard (10-15 years) here. Nobody disputed that the tank can be hit from above or that they do it in Israel, only then post a "normal video" in that case, and not this crap.
              1. Tra-ta-ta
                Tra-ta-ta 26 February 2016 23: 52
                0
                Here is the normal video:
        3. peter mechkaev
          peter mechkaev 26 February 2016 22: 58
          +5
          Well-known fake ... already long ago become history .. Exposed by him and filming .... Explosion of the tank was carried out by explosives inside the tank. And how everything is being conducted on it .. RIDICULOUS ALREADY ..
  • Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 26 February 2016 19: 00
    +3
    Quote: xam0
    There is still a lot of intelligence to drive the crew through the back gate, there is something to work on for their crews, while all this gouging will be revealed to the Syrians.


    So as if it was time to forget about the gouging. Tea is not the first year of war.
    1. shans2
      shans2 26 February 2016 21: 08
      +2
      Arabs do not study, this is a well-known fact, therefore, with selected tanks and a crowd of 10 to the 1st, they have never been able to inflict critical defeats on Israel.
  • wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 00
    +7
    Interestingly, why did the OFS crew not solve the problem?
    After all, it is clearly visible that the commander and gunner saw in the optics the calculation of the ATGM (well, or at least the enemy infantry). And at the same time they conducted aimed fire from PKTM and Korda.
    And why was the "Curtain" disabled?
    1. elmi
      elmi 26 February 2016 19: 13
      +6
      And why was it so diligently and calmly filming the TOW ATGM system? Obviously, they were preparing to make a sensation about the vulnerability of the t-90 But it didn’t work, but on the contrary the tank withstood the blow once the crew remained alive
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 23
        +6
        Quote: elmi
        And why was it so diligently and calmly filming the TOW ATGM system?


        I would not say that it is quite calm, the video shows how the PKTM and Korda bullets reach the positions of the babaevs where the operator is sitting. Probably he threw a thread through his vein, or smoked before shooting, well, just so that his hands do not shake. laughing His work does not look like a finished moron, very well removes mandyuk. laughing
    2. xan
      xan 26 February 2016 21: 10
      +1
      Quote: wanderer_032
      Interestingly, why did the OFS crew not solve the problem?
      After all, it is clearly visible that the commander and gunner saw in the optics the calculation of the ATGM (well, or at least the enemy infantry). And at the same time they conducted aimed fire from PKTM and Korda.
      And why was the "Curtain" disabled?

      They saw the enemy, but fired from a machine gun, and the tower was open - apparently they received an order to stand, or doubted the enemy. I read the recollections of WWII tankers, I remembered that if even one infantryman threatens a tank, the crew will not spare not only the shell, but also the entire ammunition, to destroy it, and if it will be necessary to retreat.
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 February 2016 19: 01
    -10 qualifying.
    The tank lives on the battlefield for 4 minutes maximum. The experience of the Great Patriotic War. And what did they show us? Like, how cool women are destroying cardboard Russian technology? Smells bad from this movie staging, or substitution.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 26 February 2016 19: 29
      16
      Quote: iliitch
      The tank lives on the battlefield for 4 minutes maximum.

      This is in a big nuclear war.
      In a small war, a serviceable tank, with competent crew actions and infantry interaction, lives much longer. A good example of this is the fighting in Grozny in 1994: as soon as they remembered the tactics, they began to work together with the infantry and manned the DZ - so immediately the loss of tanks began to fall.
      And in 1999, tanks generally showed survivability wonders:
      After successfully completing the task and after receiving a radio command to retreat, tank 623, which had previously rushed forward, began to retreat, not reversing, but turning around. Thus, he put his stern under fire from the enemy.
      Over the next short period of time, the car received 3 hits of anti-tank grenades from RPG-7:
      -first - into a metal barrel at the stern for additional fuel (in a combat situation on tanks, these barrels were always "dry"). The cumulative jet pierced the barrel through and through, but could not pierce the body of the tank.
      -second - on board the hull; It was neutralized by elements of mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal screens;
      -the third - in the lower part of the stern sheet, while the firing militant was "cut off" by a burst from a tank machine gun; the cumulative jet, having pierced the stern sheet, also pierced the lower part of the engine crankcase and "stalled" at the partition in the fighting compartment.
      Nevertheless, the tank under its own power with a broken engine crankcase (!), Walked another 300 m at high speed and took refuge on a neighboring street in the location of federal units. There the crew left the car and quickly left it. Tankers reported that oil-fuel fog had begun to accumulate inside the tank and that a fire and explosion could occur. Soon the engine stalled. But nothing caught fire and did not explode. During the day, the engine was replaced, the inlet from the cumulative grenade was brewed, and the tank again went into operation.

      At the beginning of January 2000, during the fighting to liberate the city of Grozny, 1 tr of the battalion was assigned as service forces to assault detachments of motorized riflemen of the 506th Guards. msp. In two days of fighting in the area of ​​the railway depot, the tank with side No. 611 was hit three times by the Fagot ATGM and six times by RPG-7 grenades.
      The hits occurred in the following parts of the tank.
      ATGM - to the left under the tower (all):
      - two - in the fuel tanks on the fenders under the tower, which during the fighting tankers always kept "dry". The tanks swelled and exploded, then the elements of the mounted explosive reactive armor on the tower worked, there was no armor penetration;
      -one - on board under the tower; it is reflected by the activated element of the mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal side screens.
      Grenades from RPG-7:
      -one - on top of the commander's hatch of the tower; a cumulative jet pierced the hatch and, without hitting the tank commander, went into the aft wall of the tower;
      -two - to the left in the upper frontal part of the tower; neutralized by triggered elements of mounted dynamic protection;
      -Three - on board the hull, 2 on the left and 1 on the right; all are reflected by dynamic protection elements mounted on rubber-metal side screens.
      As a result, not a single hit led to the loss of combat capability of the tank.

      (c) u_96 - an extract from an article by Gennady Zhilin published in the February 2006 issue of the magazine "Weapon's Word"
      1. xan
        xan 26 February 2016 21: 17
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        as soon as they remembered the tactics, they began to work together with the infantry and manned the DZ - so immediately the loss of tanks began to fall.

        Campaign against ATGMs and grenade launchers one DZ and works. How to go into battle without her?
    2. Awaz
      Awaz 26 February 2016 19: 41
      +2
      another story about a platoon who lives three days, remember.
    3. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 26 February 2016 22: 38
      +4
      Quote: iliitch
      The tank lives on the battlefield 4 minutes maximum

      What are you ?! And why none of the tankers and professional military does not confirm this nonsense?
      Why did the T-60, T-26 and T-28 on the Leningrad Front manage to serve the entire period of the blockade, and some tanks recaptured the entire WWII from 41 to 45? Why were the losses in tanks of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Afghanistan and in the Second FWM minimal? Do not repeat this tale.
      1. Lunic
        Lunic 27 February 2016 05: 01
        +1
        Rather, he means that the estimated lifetime of the tank in battle is 4 minutes. each combat unit (soldier, tank, armored personnel carrier, etc.) has an estimated "life" time in battle. based on this, the number of forces and equipment for certain combat missions is calculated.
        I also remember it was jarring when the battalion commander told us that the soldier lives only 3 minutes in battle ...
  • Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 26 February 2016 19: 04
    0
    Quote: wanderer_032
    Interestingly, why did the OFS crew not solve the problem?



    What's interesting? Ended up.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 13
      +8
      Quote: Galich Kos
      What's interesting? Ended up.


      Quite possibly.

      But where then, the valiant Syrian infantry who was supposed to cover the tank? Where is the machine gunner or sniper from the cover group? When the bogeyman induced TOW the very moment was to charge him between the horns in the optics. laughing
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad 26 February 2016 22: 30
        +1
        But where then are the valiant Syrian infantry?


        The trouble of Assad’s army is the lack of the necessary number of infantry. Who killed, and who - in Europe ... Girls train! This is not in Sweden - in Asia, s ... A shortage of human resources (4 years of war)
    2. Pajamas
      Pajamas 26 February 2016 19: 38
      +1
      Quote: Galich Kos
      Quote: wanderer_032
      Interestingly, why did the OFS crew not solve the problem?



      What's interesting? Ended up.

      and then dump is not fate?
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 50
        +1
        Quote: Pajama
        and then dump is not fate?


        And if there was no order to leave? As then? This is the army.
  • Lanista
    Lanista 26 February 2016 19: 05
    26
    The curtain was turned off, as can be seen by the idle floodlights.
    The DZ block was normally triggered, which can be seen in slow motion on scattered fragments of light color (these are fragments of the ATGM casing), as well as on bright, burning elements flying out of the cloud (this is the molten material of the cumulative casing of the munition, i.e., the reflected stream).
    There was no penetration, otherwise the gunner would not have run so briskly.

    This is the case when hit by an ATGM does not mean the death of a tank.

    The roller itself is mounted in such a way that it is not clear whether the shown ATGM launch (side view of the ATGM and its operator) and hit the tank are related to each other.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 15
      +3
      Quote: Lanista
      The roller itself is mounted in such a way that it is not clear whether the shown ATGM launch (side view of the ATGM and its operator) and hit the tank are related to each other.


      Everything is the same. Just shot from different cameras.
      1. opus
        opus 26 February 2016 20: 03
        +3
        Quote: wanderer_032
        Everything is the same. Just shot from different cameras.

        No, it is mounted.
        And in time and quality. It is clear.
        Quote: wanderer_032
        This is the case when hit by an ATGM does not mean the death of a tank.

        So generally unharmed (except for the smell that left the runaway).
        Syrian will ventilate his pants and return
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  • DrVintorez
    DrVintorez 26 February 2016 19: 06
    +7
    even if we take into account the declared characteristics (and the declared ones are usually much lower than the real ones) of tow tow, the question arises - why beat the tank in the forehead? he has the thickest, most effective armor there. it is clear that the tactical use of the ptrk calculation is not trained - taught to shoot and okay. the tank, even if it is damaged (and there are doubts about the destruction), it is impossible to write off irretrievable losses, there is no explosion of bk, there is no fire. if it were, it would definitely be captured by the operators, as in the case of the su-24.
  • vladstro
    vladstro 26 February 2016 19: 07
    14
    Something the barmaley are clearly cackling in disappointment after the outbreak. As always, they were expecting a fire or detonation, but then they just shot the dust like a piece of camel shit. yell, but here is such a bummer. Give us more powerful rockets, and then spoil the whole buzz "people".
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 26 February 2016 19: 10
    +5
    The video is not obvious that there was a hit at all. In slow motion, although the curtains are not visible, it is clear that the detonation occurred at a certain distance. It would be a break, no one would get out ...
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 26 February 2016 19: 14
    0
    There is something for designers to think about ...
    1. akribos
      akribos 26 February 2016 19: 35
      12
      To designers, ptrk? A wonderful example, resistance, our technology. The question is different, why does the tank stand openly, how did it get there at all (as if the flank had been specially set up, it would be clear if it moved, but it is static), where is the infantry, why is the calculation of the commander, it feels so good, although the elements camouflage, we don’t see this calculation (that’s a big one, the calculation is in full growth, it is noticeable). In general, someone according to the results will say that Russian tanks are easy to knock out, but I saw a high-quality product that did not explode, which did not tear off the tower, in which the tanker managed to escape. The tank is good, but there are questions to the action of the parties. Sincerely.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 26 February 2016 21: 45
        0
        You are a plus. To be honest, this is exactly the review I was expecting. Judging by this video, the tou worked on the remote sensing. There are comments on the effectiveness of the curtains. According to the video, it does not work very well. Failure? I don’t think. I suspect that the T-90 was impudently set up under the obsel, for an experiment.
  • cheap trick
    cheap trick 26 February 2016 19: 16
    +3
    https://youtu.be/Uj9rVGubZQE йеменцы мочат абрамсы из советских птуров
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 26 February 2016 19: 50
      +1
      also in the course of Abramasah, they do not see that they are being fired upon. Well, an oil painting on the subject of how the explosion itself and the tank itself should look after being hit. In our case with the T 90, the picture is completely different. Although there are many options for knocking out a tank
      1. cheap trick
        cheap trick 26 February 2016 23: 34
        0
        in Iraq they burned 12 abrams with RPG calmly! from 1 hit. the video was but I can not find.
  • bad
    bad 26 February 2016 19: 16
    +1
    there is no video of the affected tank, which means there’s no reason to be upset .. the operating conclusions will be made unambiguously .. apparently it’s not just that the t-90 was sent to Syria .. they will be tested and finalized as necessary .. crews need to be trained better ..
  • Zero73
    Zero73 26 February 2016 19: 16
    +3
    In general, nonsense ... The tankman was jammed - that's all the "losses". T-90, after repeated shelling with modern ammunition at a training ground in Russia, left that training ground on its own. And then there is some drippy TOW-2.
  • sso-xnumx
    sso-xnumx 26 February 2016 19: 17
    +2
    A. what? Do the best military experts work in Vestnik Mordovia? How many IN I read, all links to experts from this particular edition ...
    1. Lanista
      Lanista 26 February 2016 20: 05
      +2
      They just have front-line correspondents in Syria.
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 26 February 2016 19: 17
    +3
    I don’t know how I would behave after triggering a remote sensing with the sunroof open, but I know for sure how this episode sucks up the independent shell in Ukraine.
  • gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 26 February 2016 19: 19
    +3
    There, a second before the shot, something flashed on the tank, what was it?
    1. HARDDEN_KMV
      HARDDEN_KMV 26 February 2016 19: 27
      +3
      Rifle ... (bullets)
    2. DMB3000
      DMB3000 26 February 2016 19: 27
      0
      Quote: gfhjkm
      There, a second before the shot, something flashed on the tank, what was it?

      active defense
      1. opus
        opus 26 February 2016 20: 08
        -1
        Quote: DMB3000
        active defense

        no.

        here is the operation of AZ


        what are the "bunnies" in LJ

        Quote: gfhjkm
        There, a second before the shot, something flashed on the tank, what was it?

        flare on a panoramic sight

        or on the gunner’s sight / on the understudy’s sight

        or on the video surveillance device of the commander
    3. DMB3000
      DMB3000 26 February 2016 19: 27
      -6
      Quote: gfhjkm
      There, a second before the shot, something flashed on the tank, what was it?

      active defense
    4. donavi49
      donavi49 26 February 2016 19: 37
      +3
      Bunny. Or maybe from a machine gun he shot languidly. At the place of occurrence, the machine gun is most likely.
    5. Sultan Babai
      Sultan Babai 26 February 2016 22: 21
      +1
      machine gun fired on the tower. The curtain didn’t work exactly.
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 26 February 2016 19: 22
    +3
    I do not even know. But in this message the actual fact is laid out. The circumstances are outlined ...
    And then some post messages with such pathos, as if they were personally shouting "Alla, I'm in the bar" ...

    Do not bother too much, barmalei. You will have a squirrel in your head, a whistle in the switcher, and a piece of fat on the grave. Tanks are not afraid of dirt, let alone such scum ...

    In war, as in war. We will be alive - we will not die!
    soldier
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 26 February 2016 20: 54
      +6
      Quote: yuriy55
      ... Tanks are not afraid of dirt, let alone such scum ...

      Quote: akribos
      A wonderful example, durability, our technology

      1995 year !!!!
  • Stoler
    Stoler 26 February 2016 19: 26
    +8
    what x. Does it cost as much time as a target?
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 26 February 2016 19: 33
      +3
      Quote: Stoler
      what x. Does it cost as much time as a target?


      Good question! Everyone was waiting for someone to ask him.
  • HARDDEN_KMV
    HARDDEN_KMV 26 February 2016 19: 26
    -18 qualifying.
    a tank on the battlefield lives 3 min. in Soviet times it was 30 minutes ...
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 26 February 2016 22: 44
      +2
      WELL WHERE THIS TALE COME FROM? !!!! If a tank "lives" for 3-15-30 minutes, then how does an infantryman live?
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 27 February 2016 00: 03
        +1
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        WELL WHERE THIS TALE COME FROM? !!!! If a tank "lives" for 3-15-30 minutes, then how does an infantryman live?

        My father went through the whole German, and then the Japanese military company. I washed with him in the bathhouse and did not even see a single wound. So everyone lives differently.
  • From Samara
    From Samara 26 February 2016 19: 27
    -11 qualifying.
    Unfortunately, the Syrians, like all Arabs, are bad warriors ... They did not detect TOW-2
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  • Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 26 February 2016 19: 28
    +9
    The gunner jumped out without a helmet, most likely he was sitting, and the hatch was open, so he got it in his ears and jumped out in pain. There was no penetration, but good science for the future.
  • free
    free 26 February 2016 19: 28
    +2
    you might think we were desperately convincing the whole world that our tanks weren’t knocked out, in principle, even here on those (although the t90 seems to me to be not badly damaged), you might think the mercenaries leopards and abrams withstand tau 2 without any problems, can we try?
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 26 February 2016 19: 31
    +1
    Quote: gfhjkm
    There, a second before the shot, something flashed on the tank, what was it?

    There, along the way, the machine gun worked.
  • raid14
    raid14 26 February 2016 19: 32
    +4
    What is now to guess on the coffee grounds, how "Shtora" and DZ worked, the main thing is that the BC did not detonate and the fire is not visible.
    But the big question is for tankers who, from excessive self-confidence in the invulnerability of the T-90, put the car in the ATGM destruction zone.
  • aiden
    aiden 26 February 2016 19: 39
    +3
    the tank stands at an angle to the firing, because of which the thickness of the armor increases, the tower is turned to the arrow, dz there. judging by the video, it’s just in the front of the tower and flew in and the dz worked. the gun may be damaged. and the shell-shocked crew jumped out, thinking that it would explode. the tank survived, I have no doubt
  • 3vs
    3vs 26 February 2016 19: 41
    0
    But professors from Israel, something is not visible with the comments ...
    The protection of the tank works, it seems, otherwise the cake should have been from the tank, and there
    a man escaped from smoke without any problems!
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 26 February 2016 19: 43
    +6
    If the women didn’t upload the video of the burning tank, then it’s not there. It also seemed to me that the crew from the machine gun drove someone alone.
    Tankers, please explain, open hatches is good or crucified .... in?
    After launch, the missile flew for 4 seconds, at a speed of 280-320 m / s it covered about 1200 m. Infantry can be counted from such a distance, but it’s possible to suppress the 50/50 probability in a timely manner. Pay attention to the dense building, and therefore the calculation chose the position successfully.
    And you still need more information. If, for example, "Abrams" burns, then it is immediately obvious ...
    1. From Samara
      From Samara 26 February 2016 23: 30
      -1
      Quote: Barkhan
      Tankers, please explain, open hatches is good or crucified .... in?

      I’m not a tanker, but I know that the hatches open so that the whole crew wouldn’t spread on the walls during an explosion inside with pressure ... but this also doesn’t save. The main thing here is to prevent the hatch from jamming and to jump out .. .
      1. complete zero
        complete zero 27 February 2016 15: 12
        +1
        it only acts against the cumulative charges .. armor-piercing or high-explosive fragmentation, no matter you have your hatch open or closed))))
      2. dzeredzavkomimu
        dzeredzavkomimu 28 February 2016 00: 50
        0
        I kept the hatch open, to quickly leave the car, if I stay alive after getting in and do not mess around in the steam with opening the hatch and quickly leave the car, and I’ll quickly pull it out if I’m unconscious, that's all my ..scientific .. the rationale was then
  • maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 26 February 2016 19: 55
    +1
    in my opinion, what is carrying the shells on approach is the arena ... and the curtain is a mask that masks a tank spraying in the air a cloud of special equipment that scatters all laser target designators and thermal imagers ... and makes it possible for the tank to leave the position .... but the arena it just in my opinion worked when the rocket approached the tank ... otherwise where is so much flame in the air ???

    and I say in advance - before putting me downsides - at least google what an arena is and what a curtain is! and the "red eyes" on the turret of the tank are generally called differently!
    1. Forest
      Forest 26 February 2016 20: 21
      +1
      There is no arena - this is a huge bucketroid above the tower. Infrared spotlights are included in the Curtain, grenade launchers are not the main function of this KOEP. An explosion is the triggered DZ + warhead missile itself and part of the fuel.
      1. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 26 February 2016 22: 45
        +3
        Quote: Forest
        There is no arena - this is a huge bucketroid above the tower.

        Since 2013, the Arena has long been no longer a bucket, but quite a compact thing.
        1. Forest
          Forest 27 February 2016 12: 41
          0
          Only it is nowhere to be found, except for exhibitions.
  • tforik
    tforik 26 February 2016 19: 59
    +3
    Judging by how the tankman cheerfully draped, everything is in order with the tank and crew !!!
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 February 2016 20: 01
    16
    The invulnerability of the T 90 played a cruel joke with the tankers. Deciding that they can do anything, they stand motionless under fire, not even turning on the "Curtain". Or maybe they already broke it and didn't notice. We got an ATGM in the DZ, because of the open hatches they got a lot in the ears. All this can be seen in the video. Barmaley are greatly disappointed - no fireworks happened. And the crew, if they wake up from a shell shock, must additionally knock on the skulls - they give a good technique, so fight "in full growth", and do not engage in the usual Arab garbage.
    1. le-s-ha
      le-s-ha 26 February 2016 20: 09
      +4
      I subscribe to every word. But perhaps the crew was busy firing from a machine gun (it is not entirely clear from the video of the flash from the shots or the glare from the optics glasses) so they got carried away. I think in the near future (most likely tomorrow we will see the "damaged" T-90 in a more readable picture), the Ministry of Defense will publish the details of the incident in the media. I bet a ruble against a penny on the fact that the ATGM did not pass the DZ, and the crew got off with a concussion and a slight fright
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 26 February 2016 20: 40
        +1
        Not a fact, there are fights now. This is Sheikh Akil (already found in the landscapes) - here on the map.

        There are Persians with Hazaras and Persians 200 senior officer - IRGC LT. Col Hamza Kazimi

        Babahi Fatah Aleppo or Liva al-Sukur - and they are concerned with a truce. If the tank was not evacuated, then most likely it was blown up on the retreat because, the ceasefire is already running out.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 February 2016 20: 54
          +1
          If it was ISIS that killed the tank — then there wasn’t any truce for them, the tank most likely left under its own power, as the rocket hit the optical element of the Curtain on the tower - and the driver’s mechanic remained alive.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 27 February 2016 14: 29
            0
            Babahi Fatah Aleppo or Liva Al Sukur - and the truce concerns them.
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 26 February 2016 22: 51
          0
          there are fights now.


          But mia mia, what a stupor! heavy....
  • maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 26 February 2016 20: 09
    +1
    and what kind of expert is this (in the title) who does not know when the curtain is used and when the arena is used ?!
    the curtain is used when it turns out that the tank has been detected and laser targeting is already underway ... the tank cuts the curtain, it sprays a cloud in front of the tank .. and the tank quickly drops from this position ...
    and the arena fires upon approaching the tank for several meters of ammunition (shell, ptur, rpg - she doesn’t care what) ... and shoots towards shrapnel roughly
  • guznorodov
    guznorodov 26 February 2016 20: 15
    +2
    Whatever the tank, it is, first of all, all the same iron and they need to be controlled, where is the infantry cover? Why did the tank fire at the target with a machine gun and not a cannon? Why didn't the blinding system of this ATGM work? Yes, everything converges to the fact that as in the joke "Chukchi and the telephone". The Arabs, as we do not praise them for their heroism, are still not enough in their brains. How can you so mediocrically fight those militants there for good with "gulkin's nose" in Chechnya there were more, and these are running in small groups. They show some kind of show, they would like to crush this klapovnik for a long time already, but this fuss is all rash for some reason.
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 26 February 2016 22: 54
      0
      fighters on good terms with "gulkin's nose"


      Assad does not have a horde of fighters either. Not enough for a solid front line. All the more so - for a decisive offensive. Continuous "Cossack robbers" through the ruins and steppes ...
  • loki565
    loki565 26 February 2016 20: 20
    +1
    THE COMMANDER AND THE HANDER AS MINIMUM CONTAINED, THE FIGURE WITH CLOSING THE HATCH IS INDEPENDENT
    1. le-s-ha
      le-s-ha 26 February 2016 20: 39
      0
      Perhaps it's not a matter of indifference, but of the habit of driving T-72 and other "oldies" acquired during the war years, the Syrians have no experience of fighting on fairly modern models of equipment with a full body kit in the form of dynamic protection, curtains and other arenas. Perhaps if you look at the situation from the outside, the crew got out (maybe the hatches were open so that it would be more convenient to get out, I don’t know) saving their lives just out of habit, it is possible that the car received a "scratch" and it would not be possible to stay inside for example, it is safer to exit from under the armor
  • maganaskan91
    maganaskan91 26 February 2016 20: 36
    +1
    Quote: gfhjkm
    There, a second before the shot, something flashed on the tank, what was it?

    Machine gun work.
  • TARAS BULBA
    TARAS BULBA 26 February 2016 20: 37
    +2
    "How it came and went" their attitude to the equipment put "for free" ... why be surprised
  • Radikal
    Radikal 26 February 2016 20: 45
    0
    Quote: HARDDEN_KMV
    and not removed because of further unnecessary "movements"! The main thing is that the tank was saved by the crew and the people who were alive inside! And it is clear that the complex of optoelectronic suppression is "sleeping"! Not weird? The Syrian army, knowing that ISIS is using anti-tank weapons (and it goes without saying in most of the laser) did not include a means of protection ...

    The penultimate, in my opinion, issue of the "VPK" (who is not in the know - the weekly "Military Industrial Courier") contains an article on the quality and training of the Syrian military personnel, and the difficulties that our military advisers have to face in their training. Just in the subject.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 26 February 2016 20: 45
    +2
    In theory, the tank was given not to anyone, but to the elite with combat experience. Questions - why with open hatches? Even beginners know that this should not be done if there is a remote control. Why is the "Curtain" off? In general, an empty translation of normal technology, all the junk from storage bases to be scalded with grates and to Syria, it will be more useful.
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 26 February 2016 22: 05
      0
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Questions - why with open hatches? Even beginners know that this should not be done if there is a remote control. Why is the "Curtain" off?

      Everything is clear with the hatches, our advisors should work it out again. But with "Curtain", this question is much more complicated than it seems in reality. Perhaps before leaving the "Curtain" was turned on. A real fight is, first of all, an adrenaline rush. It is quite possible that the operator in the park just turned off the system and did not pay attention to it. Then he will "swear" that he included. This is understandable, because a person simply does not remember the moment when he mechanically turned off the system. Unfortunately, such cases are not uncommon, but customers do not want to admit it. Ideally, such manipulations should be recorded and stored in the system memory. And if the car has survived, then the log file is compared with the story of the crew.
      There is such a thing that is officially called "protection against erroneous operator actions."
      As a rule, they don’t give money for it, and consider this an unreasonable rise in the cost of production.
      Ideally, the on-board computer should independently track the danger and turn on what is not turned on (by making an appropriate entry).
  • Achilles
    Achilles 26 February 2016 21: 03
    0
    It is very likely that the Arena system worked, and the tankman simply flew out of the tank from fright, and the video was apparently not complete, most likely the tank left under its own power, the Islamists usually take another 5-10 minutes after the tank was hit. savoring the results
  • Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 26 February 2016 21: 05
    0
    Quote: Strezhevchanin
    As everyone noticed, the hatch was open during the hit, the guy was completely concussed, so he broke.

    It just says that there was no penetration of the tank. You can assume as much as you like, but rather it is "propaganda" for ISIS. And, of course, the crew's lack of knowledge, if it's not a fake at all. Only a big explosion is visible in the frames, which indicates the triggering of the remote sensing, and since the hatch is open, it was more likely to receive a contusion from a pressure drop. Upon penetration, not only a pressure drop is formed, but also an instant increase in temperature, etc. Well, in general, I would hardly have jumped out.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 26 February 2016 21: 06
    +3
    Quote: adept666
    The towers mean the Abrams do not fly off))) Well, well ...

    Houthis - they are so Houthis! Tear off the "boss" Abrams - like two fingers on the asphalt! good
    In general, the Syrians, like most Arabs, have developed dependent sentiments. Throw maintainable equipment on the battlefield with thoughts - Russia will still give.
  • Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 26 February 2016 21: 42
    +1
    War. Everything is possible. Even the destruction of miracle weapons with the help of a bow and arrow. (With due luck and sloppiness ....) I do not understand the hype ...