Ministry of Finance will test recipe 12-year-old, or Viva Kudrin

In the autumn of 2015, government economists predicted a rise in oil prices to 45-50 dollars per barrel by March of 2016. There are only a few days left until March, and there is clearly nothing foreshadowing a barrel jump on 15 over a dollar. And this suggests that the regular forecast of government economists from the Ministry of Finance, as well as from the Ministry of Economic Development, was not justified. But initially it was under 45-50 dollars for the oil barrel that the budget for the current year was imposed.

In government and economic circles, apparently, they also decided that for the remaining 3-4 of February days, a barrel of oil is unlikely to jerk up sharply in terms of prices, and therefore began to look for ways to replenish the Russian budget at current oil prices. And on the eve - February 25 - the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation told how the agency is going to “work” with the budget revenues and specifically with the ruble in the event of a very long oil price hinge at 30-35 dollars per barrel.

The initiative of the Ministry of Finance is that the Russian ruble must be maintained in the event that oil prices remain low. To do this, Anton Siluanov’s office proposes to create a budget rule according to which hydrocarbons sales proceeds to the Reserve Fund and National Welfare Fund will be sent solely at prices for “black gold” from 40-50 dollars per barrel. If oil prices fall below this level, the Ministry of Finance proposes to sell incoming petrodollars to provide support for the Russian ruble.

Statement by the Deputy Minister of Finance, Maxim Oreshkin, publishes department site:

This is not only a way to ensure a stable fiscal and tax structure in the medium and long term, but also the only effective way to isolate the volatility of the real exchange rate from oil price fluctuations. With an oil price of $ 40 – 50 / bbl the budget should save and the government should start buying foreign assets. Since these purchases are funded by budget savings, this will not bear inflationary effects, unlike direct purchases of currency by the Bank of Russia.

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In other words, representatives of the main financial department of the country are trying to make an attempt to give stability to the ruble regardless of the very low price level of the barrel. In fact, this is a repetition of the 12-year-old initiative, when the Ministry of Finance proposed a budget rule regarding the sale of foreign currency derived from the sale of oil, with the price of this oil up to 20 dollars per barrel. Then the bar rose, and in 2013, this kind of rule was finally revised. Then they decided to take the average price per barrel for 10 years with the simultaneous level of the budget deficit of 1% of GDP.

If you translate these economic thinking studies of the Ministry of Finance into an understandable language, it turns out that government economists have once again signed the firmness of the ideals of Alexei Kudrin and his “Kudrinomics”. Kudrinomics here means an economy of such a nature, in which any income received above budget plans goes exclusively to the pot, to these or other reserve funds, and in the currency variant. No spending on the development of the real sector. None! On the one hand, it is exactly the reserve funds that give the relative stability to the Russian market today, but with this approach it is completely incomprehensible when government economists are going to invest these very super-profits (if they appear again) in the mentioned real sector?

The Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade actually say that the main task is to expect oil prices to rise, but they don’t say, so how much should a barrel of oil cost so that revenues from its sales go to the development of industrial production while simultaneously increasing the competitiveness of Russian goods and global markets.

So, we can hardly expect planned investments in the real sector, although, by and large, this is not the case of the Ministry of Finance. The task of the modern Ministry of Finance is extremely simple - to reduce the level of government spending and, if possible, save money. Save for "black day". But what government economists think is “a rainy day” for the economy - a mystery.

Another thing is that the government’s industrial sector is not particularly depressed by the fact that the last person’s statement in the Ministry of Finance once again includes the previous categories: a barrel of oil, reserve accumulations, attempts to curb inflation using the method of chains and ticks. There is nothing in the statements of the deputy head of the Ministry of Finance that at least somehow concerned the stimulation of the industrial sphere, and the industrial sphere itself is silent, taking a position in the style of “that will, that bondage is all one.” And such silence is surprising, if only because over the past 4-5 years a steady trend has finally emerged, when the main budget revenues are no longer oil and gas. To display the situation - the statistics of the Ministry of Finance:

About 10 years ago, the level of oil and gas revenues exceeded 50%. In January 2011, it was already 44,1%. And in December 2015, the level of oil and gas revenues declined to about 42,9%.

It turns out that over 10 years, the decline in the share of oil and gas in the country's economy was about 7%. Frankly speaking - not the most outstanding result, but the main thing here is the designation of a trend. And this trend is unequivocal. And if so, then why once again try to develop budgetary rules, which are sharpened exclusively for the petrodollar, which ceased to dominate the Russian budget, and under the fact that super-profitability should be allowed only in stockings, and without hydrocarbons is enough ... In the end, when will initiatives arise aimed at changes in the economy, in which the balance between the oil and gas sector and the real production sector will be designated? .. So far, the answer is Unfortunately not. And it is unlikely that it will appear in the near future, because “Kudrinomics” still rules, as if pushing to the fact that even “minus” 3% of GDP per year is like normal ...

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[My address]

As my mom used to say: "Skinny work is like stealing."
And even more interesting, Medvedev put it in an interview with a German newspaper before a trip to Munich - they say 15 is not enough for major changes in the economy.
PS This is read in the Expert for 12.02.16, but in our media a word about it.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Aleksander

A hundred years old will not be enough for him.

other interests ...

[Sensatus]

"To be a musician, skill is needed
And your ears are poorer,
The Nightingale answers them. -
And you, friends, no matter how you sit down,
Everybody's not good at musicians. "

But where is our nightingale?

[varov14]

Kirdyk seems to be soon to be our nightingale, something on other sites of patriots is almost not visible. Bringing domestic politics to the swamp.

[snifer]

drive them to the neck, these economists.

[gergi]

When this Great Bidmintonist opens his mouth, and begins to broadcast frantically, I want to break the television box. How long ?! How long will this misunderstanding teach us how to live right? The most brilliant deed of this iPhone will be the resignation. If this epoch-making event occurs, bow to him to the ground, and wind in the back.

[Aleksander]

Quote: My address

Medvedev in an interview with a German newspaper before a trip to Munich - they say 15 years is not enough for dramatic changes in the economy.

A hundred years old will not be enough for him.

[NIKNN]

The fall of the ruble began with the fact that MP Milonov demanded that a member of Apollo be removed from the hundred-ruble note. There was no need to insult the deity ...

[stopkran]

The caricature is old, but relevant today.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Aleksander

A hundred years old will not be enough for him.

I hope he does not last so long.

[larand]

Quote: Ingvar 72

I hope he does not last so long.

He will leave, come the same. The system will not allow a smart professional. It will be difficult for rats to plunder the country.

[Al_oriso]

The professional has nowhere to come from.

Either the road is closed to a professional, otherwise when it appears, all our current government will be forced to sign incompetence.

[smart Fox]

But there was Primakov.

[valerii41]

Medvedev like, and Nadezhdin on Wikipedia assesses the situation

[valerii41]

Medvedev like, and Nadezhdin on Wikipedia assesses the situation

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: My address

And even more interesting, Medvedev put it in an interview with a German newspaper before a trip to Munich - they say 15 is not enough for major changes in the economy.

yeah ... after the Second World War, 16 years was enough to fly into space, but now it’s not enough to do something on earth ...

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

yeah ... after the Second World War, 16 years was enough to fly into space, and now it’s not enough to do something on earth

After the war, the Minister of Finance was A. Zverev, and the head of the government was I. Stalin.
These people had a clear and long-term plan for the development of the state, including replenishment of the state budget. Moreover, it was independent of the export price of oil - it somehow managed with internal resources. Does the current government of the Russian Federation have at least a semblance of such a plan? I doubt it very much

[Amurets]

Investments! Investments. Investments?
Oil prices! Oil prices. Oil prices?
This is how our government works. Gypsy fortunetellers at the market more accurately guess

[Achilles]

After the 90s, all products (90%) were tinkering with from abroad (all plants were destroyed) in order to change the trend, as many say, it is necessary to build factories and factories and then the economy will grow, this is all true, but how to do it when almost all of our market is clogged with products from abroad and, moreover, cheaply, all our stores buy from abroad, let's say we built factories, how will we sell products when all our stores are oriented to abroad? (there are elites in the country that are so simple they will not allow us to develop when everything is tied up abroad) Stalin is a tough dictator, but at that time his actions contributed to the growth of the economy and, moreover, in a short period of time but with the help of tough measures I repeat, but this method is already in the past. After the sanctions imposed by the West and after the counter-sanction (import substitution), this factor can help us, but it cannot give a result in two or five years (to build plants we need serious investments, but where can I get them? + We need technologies, where a large percentage we buy from the West), it takes a lot more time here, if our government does not take advantage of this moment, then in this case we do not need such a government. This must be clearly understood.

[cap]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

yeah ... after the Second World War, 16 years was enough to fly into space, but now it’s not enough to do something on earth ...

I will only add, without the dollar, partners' "investments", exchange rates, trends, computer brands and much more.
I remember the price per liter of kerosene 7kop, gasoline A-76 15kop. My ticket, from the machine tool builders' union, to the Black Sea for a month was 5 rubles. My father received a turner 110 rubles, mother 70 rubles. Pension grandfather 45r. I don’t remember how much oil cost. Sclerosis, probably. Posters hung with similar calls. Kudrin in those years, still could not go when Gagarin flew into space, what to ask from the child. What they taught, they got.
Something like that .

[Cartman]

Gas sales in the United States in 1950 were 42 percent higher than in 1945, and by 1950 oil consumption as an energy source exceeded coal consumption.

[maxbrov74]

Of course he is not enough. He has not yet privatized and sawed everything.

[INVESTOR]

The oil model of the economy is also not a bad model, the problem is that oil is traded for dollars, and the United States is manipulating the price, slowing down developing countries.

[atalef]

Quote: INVESTOR

Oil model of economy is not a bad model either

This is a bad model and not one of the highly developed countries has such a model.

Quote: INVESTOR

the problem is that oil is trading for dollars

This is not a problem - this is reality.
And if you don’t live with reality, you will have problems

Quote: INVESTOR

and the United States is manipulating price, slowing down developing countries.

Of course, for 12 years, prices were exorbitant - this is like the United States made it possible to develop, paying hundreds of billions for oil purchased (and the price was fair ), and now prices have fallen and robbery type.

[dark_flame]

Quote: INVESTOR

The oil model of the economy is also not a bad model,

I agree this is a good model for countries like Saudi Arabia, for all other countries this model is just the same bad.

Quote: INVESTOR

the problem is that oil is trading for dollars,

But was this a problem for the USSR? Oil has been targeting for dollars for a long time and why only now has it become a problem?

Quote: INVESTOR

and the United States is manipulating price, slowing down developing countries.

The largest importer of oil in the world is China (a developing country), and low oil prices are good for it, therefore, to slow down the development of China, which in fact could become the new world economy (and what kind of country is the world economy now?), prices up to no limit. This is where the root of the problem lies, China is very developing renewable energy sources, like many other oil importers. And if that goes on, then in a couple of decades, no one but the oil producing countries will need oil. Therefore, oil has fallen in price and will fall and will last so long as to freeze all these renewable energy projects.
Do not think that the Americans lowered oil prices to harm Russia; they have much more serious problems. Our economy is not suffering because of the Americans, but because of our government, which did not develop anything but two pipes, hoping that oil prices will always be above $ 100 always

[killganoff]

As my mom used to say: "Skinny work is like stealing."

And if you add theft to bad work ...

[starshina78]

Our government is like collecting stargazers. That some have that others have the same forecasts and thoughts, but there are no real cases. To listen to the Minister of Finance, and even better to the Minister of Economic Development, you will not immediately understand what he wanted to say. Clever, ornate, a lot of obscure terms, just to make the appearance of work and dust the brains of the population do not indulge in the most. But in reality, the Government can only cut, raise, and talk a lot - without real decisions and real affairs. So we can agree that we will remain without pants and not notice how.

[Skif83]

Life is not enough for these "figures", because during their "reign" they did NOTHING and hope that they will not do anything! And talking about something cardinal is utopia!
Apart from how to share oil and gas profits, they do not know how to do anything. What is presented with such fanfare for "successes" is nonsense.
After the war, the country was mainly rebuilt in 8 years. During the war, whole plants were raised in a bare field in a month.
And these ... bullshit.
Here, in general, a certain dvorkovich announced the possible sale of controlling stakes in the main oil and gas companies in Japan. I just want one of the most ardent KGB investigators to ask "sincerely": - Did you build all this?
No one, unfortunately ...

[gladcu2]

Skif83

With modern technology, industrialization can be carried out in 2 years.

Just imagine that the productivity of production has increased on average hundreds of times, not tens, compared with the period 50 years ago.

If Stalinist socialism survived, then in Russia the working day would be about 6 hours. The average income would be 50-80 k bucks per family.
Unemployment, in principle, would not be.

It makes no sense to work less than 6 hours, specialization is lost.

And birth control would have to be introduced.

And so, all the shit and the Americans too. There is no example to follow.

And liberals sell states in all countries. Evil spirits...

[They <b>accompany you</b>]

- they say 15 years is not enough for fundamental changes in the economy.

the Chinese do not think so
In China, the billionaire Liu Han was executed, who was convicted under 13 articles of the PRC criminal code. This execution was another proof that in the PRC everyone is equal before the law.

[parusnik]

"kudrinomics" still rules,Kudrin left, but his work lives on ....

[Gray brother]

Quote: parusnik

"kudrinomics" still rules, Kudrin left, but his work lives on ....

Judging by the quotes given in the article, the Ministry of Finance has a rather competent approach to the situation.
Only the mythical rise in oil prices is the so-called positive scenario, but there is still a negative one which for some reason is not mentioned at all in the article.

"minus" 3% of GDP per year is kind of normal ...

In the current conditions, this is really normal, I just don’t know how to just get a bunch of dough out of nowhere. If he knew, he would live like a king.

[atalef]

Quote: Gray Brother

"minus" 3% of GDP per year is kind of normal ...
In the current environment, this is really normal.

This not normal .
Look at China - its GDP growth has fallen below 6.5% and the whole world is on its ears.
Due to the fact that if China's GDP will rise below 5% per year is stagnation
You cannot equal yourself with the developed countries in the sense of raising the GDP, Europe 0.2-1% a year is not enough, the USA 2.5% is better, but it is DEVELOPED, economically established countries, their GDP cannot a priori grow at such a rate as China .
What China, what the Russian Federation needs to CAPTURE Europe and the United States-this requires an increase in GDP per year at the level of 5% +, as well as stagnation and a chronic lag.
And you say -3% as if normal, which is normal? This is actually -8% of the minimum required for progress indicators. This is the scum of the country's development at 2-3 years ago.

[Gray brother]

Quote: atalef

This is the scum of the country's development 2-3 years ago

If the economy is based on the sale of cheaper energy, then where does growth come from?
You can’t get anywhere from the recession - you can only taxi quietly.

And about China, it’s interesting in general. They have the same economy based on the sale of consumer goods of any kind and if they have a recession, then someone has begun to buy less.
And who actually has the problem is another question, because the United States has always bought the most goods from them.
I don’t know who is standing on my ears - except for stock speculators who were counting on growth. Yes, and to hell with them

[Vadim237]

Our budget revenues are falling not only because oil is getting cheaper, but also because the consumption of all goods and services has fallen, not only domestically, but also abroad.

[4ekist]

It’s deep to me ... what’s going on abroad, but what we have is not competent gentlemen are not in their place, this is visible to the naked eye.

[dark_flame]

Quote: Gray Brother

And about China, it’s interesting in general. They have the same economy based on the sale of consumer goods of any kind and if they have a recession, then someone has begun to buy less.

The recession may be due to overproduction of 1929 for example, and just in China now the same picture is observed.

[atalef]

Quote: dark_flame

Quote: Gray Brother

And about China, it’s interesting in general. They have the same economy based on the sale of consumer goods of any kind and if they have a recession, then someone has begun to buy less.

The recession may be due to overproduction of 1929 for example, and just in China now the same picture is observed.

In China, not a recession, but a slowdown. That is the same for China.
The problem of China is that the old model has exhausted itself, the yuan has been made convertible (this has been demanded for a long time, the 2 economy of the world cannot be with non-convertible currency) Now China is looking for new ways, namely, the involvement of 700 million peasants in the labor market and moving away from Shirpreba production. They just made peace.

[Gray brother]

Quote: atalef

They just made peace.

The world economy is built on continuous growth, and the planet is not rubber, someday the limit must come. Why not now?
Is oil overproduction or is it not a recession, but a slowdown?

[atalef]

Quote: Gray Brother

The global economy is built on continuous growth

Of course, and what's wrong with that?

Quote: Gray Brother

and the planet is not rubber, someday the limit must come. Why not now?

Sooner. Or everyone has already been fed, cured, learned, etc., etc.

Quote: Gray Brother

Is oil overproduction or is it not a recession, but a slowdown?

You know, I have a good example of this. Israel is a warm country, and storing food outside the window is somewhat problematic, therefore, when there was no refrigerator, it was just that every morning we rode on horses and sold ice and stored our products in an iron box on ice.
But then one refrigerator appeared, the second - they were expensive. And the owners of the factories did not itch and drive their ice, and this continued until the seller and his unfortunate horse understood - and the ice is no longer needed by anyone, and for free
Think about it.

[Gray brother]

Quote: atalef

Think about it.

Sellers of refrigerators ousted ice producers. They drove ice while demand was. So what?
There is no alternative to oil and cheap gear with electronics yet.

Sooner. Or everyone has already been fed, cured, learned, etc., etc.

But there is no such goal. People are divided into consumers and holodrozhtsev. Moreover, there are more hungry people than consumers and their number is constantly growing, and there’s nothing special to sell to them because they have no money.
I am glad that there are refrigerators in Israel now, but this has nothing to do with the crisis of consumption.

[vlad_vlad]

Sellers of refrigerators ousted ice producers. They drove ice while demand was. So what?
There is no alternative to oil and cheap gear with electronics yet.

It is amazing how people of different countries and centuries fall on the same errors.
England / Germany 19th and 20th century - "there is no alternative to coal ..."
IBM chief Watson in 1943 - "the world market for computers in the future - maximum 5 pieces ..."
US President Hayes in 1877 - "The telephone is an interesting thing, but nobody needs the fuck ..."

Gazprom - "Slanzevaya oil and gas is a deception ..." I’m all waiting for Gazprom to say sorry, we were mistaken

[SIT]

There was no overproduction. The Great Depression was made very simple - 30% of all money was withdrawn from circulation and they were not enough. There are goods, but no money - that’s all overproduction. Any Central Bank created according to the Rothschild model can do this, and the Fed is this model in its purest form. The purpose of the crisis is the purchase of cheaper assets by the initiators of the crisis. For example, the state of Pope Kennedy during the Great Depression grew 2.5 times.

[gladcu2]

SIT

Have you watched Zeitgeist on YouTube?

:)

[gladcu2]

Dark

Overproduction is the loss of solvency of consumers.

Money in the financial sector, which is not a consumer.
This is the so-called crisis of capitalism.

In fact, this is the lack of state control over the financial sector. Stupidly bought the government.

[siberalt]

To make 8%, you need to change the system and remember about five-year plans, and not guess at the coffee grounds. The country of ministers - fortunetellers, damn it!

[Finches]

Unfortunately, most of our economists in the leadership are brightly degenerated liberals - Westerners! They think not according to the state, but in a private ownership! Their ideals and interests lie far beyond the borders of Russia ...!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

Unfortunately, most of our economists in the leadership are brightly degenerated liberals - Westerners! They think not according to the state, but in a private ownership! Their ideals and interests lie far beyond the borders of Russia ...!

Unfortunately, there are simply no economists.
Yes, and which economists? And how to cut the loot?

[atos_kin]

Yes, they are just Timurovtsy. (Hello Amur.)

[Mikhail m]

The level of oil and gas revenues decreased due to the fall in oil prices. So the government's credit for this is minimal. As long as “effective managers” are at the helm, and not specialists who know production, no shifts in the direction of kudrinomics are expected. (See the composition of the government.)

[gaura]

If we count in rubles, then incomes have even increased, because the ruble sank even more

[atalef]

Quote: gaura

If we count in rubles, then incomes have even increased, because the ruble sank even more

In Zimbabwe, in general, all multi-billionaires. Is there a billion dollar worth a penny or is it already a trillion?

[Gray brother]

Quote: atalef

In Zimbabwe, in general, all multi-billionaires

There is no longer its own currency, they have long switched to American dollars.

[atalef]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: atalef

In Zimbabwe, in general, all multi-billionaires

There is no longer its own currency, they have long switched to American dollars.

And ceased to be billionaires, .. again pin .. ods are to blame.

[Gray brother]

Quote: atalef

And ceased to be billionaires, .. again pin .. ods are to blame.

Why are you to blame? They didn’t give them bucks, the locals were just tired of rolling cars with waste paper in order to buy bread.

[to persuade]

Always dreamed of becoming a multi trillionaire ...

[Amurets]

Quote: Mikhail M

As long as “effective managers” are at the helm, and not specialists who know production, no shifts in the direction of curling is expected. (See the composition of the government.)

Until the Constitution is changed or the economic block of laws is amended, not a single manager will do anything. Under the current system, the State Bank will sit on gold and foreign exchange reserves and the state will be without money. An example of the United States with its FRS. The same model is accepted in Russia .It is necessary to tax imported products, we mean those that are produced or can be produced in Russia. To alleviate the tax burden of industrial enterprises. Dramatically, at times increase taxes on the export of raw materials from the country and lower taxes on finished products. Those are foreign or international companies that they manufacture products in Russia completely, receive the same taxation as the Russian ones, but now we need to tax these screwdriver assembly enterprises with the same taxes as the Russian ones, even if they pay the same prices for imported components as for spare parts. . Participation in the WTO does not give any benefits to anyone besides the oil and gas complex, which raises prices for any reason.

[yuriy55]

I agree. The root cause of all evils is the economic laws of development invented in the West for Russia, which were successfully implemented with the help of American advisers by our false democrats during the drunkenness and coronary bypass surgery of the EBN ... Now there is nothing to complain about. Capitals are exported by law, the same taxes are paid by law to all, even responsible (or not) for committed crimes ) according to law...
It is necessary to nationalize the Central Bank, hold a referendum on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, conduct an audit of the property of persons specially "gifted" with capital ... Somewhere to tell cunning guys that their time has passed, take your savings, and what is a national treasure will belong the people and this will be governed by representatives from the people (state) ...
If this is not done, then until the end of the century we will be humming a cheerful "seventieth" tune and cheerfully surprise with new economic gems, referring to the Western experience of managing ...

[atalef]

Quote: yuriy55

I agree. The root cause of all evils is the economic laws of development invented in the West for Russia

The laws are the same everywhere, like the multiplication table or the Pythagorean theorem.
It's just that in Russia they are trying to redo them in their own way

Quote: yuriy55

Capital is exported by law, the same taxes for all are paid by law, even responsible for crimes committed (or not) by law ...

And who takes out capital and why? Ask yourself why people do not want to leave money in Russia, even though 6-8% receive absolutely no real numbers for any highly developed country for the same foreign currency deposit.
In our country (as an example, 0.25% - per annum) - like investing, making money from scratch 6-8%, but they are exporting it on an equal footing. Why?

Quote: yuriy55

representatives from the people (state) will manage this ...

The State Duma

Quote: yuriy55

referring to the western economic experience ..

There is something to refer to, they live by far better.

[atalef]

Quote: Amurets

Until the Constitution is changed or the economic block of laws is amended, no manager will do anything. Under the current system, the State Bank will sit on gold and foreign exchange reserves, and the state will be without money

The state bank must be independent. Otherwise, no one will have money.
The state will eat everything. Zimbabwe to you as an example

Quote: Amurets

The same model is accepted in Russia.

In the whole civilized world

Quote: Amurets

Imported products must be taxed, meaning those that are or may be produced in Russia

What do you think the local manufacturer will do in this case? That's right, in the absence of competition will raise prices.
It is necessary to make sure that domestic products are better than imported ones - then the questions will disappear by themselves

Quote: Amurets

To alleviate the tax burden of industrial enterprises.

And where will the money come from in the budget?

Quote: Amurets

Those foreign or international companies that manufacture products in Russia in full receive the same taxation as Russian, and now we need to tax these screwdriver assembly enterprises with the same taxes as Russian ones, even if they pay the same prices for imported components as for spare parts

This will increase the cost of production and worsen its competitiveness.
Bottom line - they will transfer them to Vietnam, and all those laid off will sit on unemployment benefits i.e. on budget money.

Quote: Amurets

I. And mandatory exit from the WTO. Participation in the WTO does not give any benefits to anyone except the oil and gas complex, which lifts prices for any reason

Well, even less taxes to the budget of the shopping mall, export duties for neither WTO members are higher.

[Amurets]

Quote: atalef

The state bank must be independent. Otherwise, no one will have money.

The State Bank should not depend on the US Federal Reserve, and now it is the other way around, as soon as the Americans are tight, the State Bank of Russia urgently buys US debt.

[Starik72]

Mikhail, it seems to me that these "managers" have simply forgotten the arithmetic, and they know only two actions, DIVIDE and REDUCE. And they completely forgot the rest of the ADD and MULTIPLED actions. Oh no, add to YOUR POCKET, they remember this action by heart!

[bad]

Ministry of Finance will test recipe 12-year-old, or Viva Kudrin

..maybe the Ministry of Finance will have enough to test something all the time? we are not laboratory mice .. for gruel, yes for bunks and so that with the confiscation of these "testers" ..

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: bad

.. may be enough for the Ministry of Finance all the time to test something? We are not laboratory mice .. for gruel, yes for bunks and so that with the confiscation of these "testers" ..

and the president is pleased with the work of the government and appreciates it positively.
paradox

[4ekist]

Work as a team shorter ....

[Gardamir]

? We are not laboratory mice ..

Soon the election, here's a look. who you are.

[atalef]

Quote: Gardamir

? We are not laboratory mice ..

Soon the election, here's a look. who you are.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he has information about the preparation by unfriendly forces abroad of intervention in the autumn elections to the State Duma. Putin's speech is published on the Kremlin website.

"I read your documents, which are regularly prepared, both in a generalized form and specific indications that, unfortunately, our enemies abroad are also preparing for these elections, as our people say," the head of state said to to employees of the Federal Security Service at the collegium of the department on Friday, February 26.

"Therefore, everyone should know that we will work to protect our interests persistently, in accordance with our law," said the head of state, quoted by TASS.

[Al1977]

Quote: bad

.. may be enough for the Ministry of Finance all the time to test something? We are not laboratory mice .. for gruel, yes for bunks and so that with the confiscation of these "testers" ..

This is in Russian, from the heart. In the civilization world, the head of state and the entire government are re-elected. ALL decisions are consistent with the President, who has doubts about this? Is the president dumber than all of you here? If so, then 86% of the population disagree with you. They are also stupid, too, to transplant them, if they chose such power?

[yuriy55]

Quote: Al1977

Is the president dumber than all of you here?

You, my dear man, most likely the representative of 1% of the Russian population incorrectly pose the question. Feels United Russia preparation. It is incorrect in form and content.

Firstly, 63% of voters chose Putin, which does not mean 6% ...
Secondly, ratings are such a volatile thing: today you are upstairs, and tomorrow ... one god knows ...
Thirdly, your powers, unlike the presidential ones, do not allow you to speak out for the remaining 85, 999999% of the population.
Fourth, our President is smart enough to make the right decisions ... only, probably (with absolute accuracy) that not clean people who are very far from real knowledge on the essence of the issues report to him. This is a room, brought up by the luxury of Caudle, who did not even go hungry in 1991-1993, who did not even have a machine gun, which did not earn her hump (I had the opportunity to work as a loader and a fireman ... just in case) not a single ruble she doesn’t know how to live without elementary living conditions, which even now, having appeared at the top of the pyramid of power, is carrying some nonsense about some oil prices and sanctions ...
The President is literate and smart, but does not know the real state of affairs in the regions. Nobody simply reports it to him. And even if he does report, then he personally will not do anything in such a huge country ... And his delegates, who are entrusted with duties and responsibilities by their "impeccable diligence", are known to us, as are the deadlines for fulfilling these instructions ...

[atalef]

Quote: yuriy55

Fourth, our President is smart enough to make the right decisions ... only, probably (with absolute accuracy) that not clean people report him to the state of affairs,

Well, yes, and he doesn’t have Internet and he was banned in Google

Quote: yuriy55

This is a room, brought up by the luxury of Caudle, which did not even starve in 1991-1993 years,

Of course, they were in the cooperative Lake, probably got so many * fishing rods * that, unlike many, they no longer required fish.

If you want to help the hungry, give him no fish, give a fishing rod.

Quote: yuriy55

The President is literate and smart, but does not know the real state of affairs in the regions. Nobody is reporting to him about this. And if he reports, then he himself will not do anything personally in such a huge country

But why then do you need it?

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: yuriy55

Firstly, 63% of voters elected Putin

This is from the voter turnout of 63,6%, and they drew the turnout in 70%, so of the total number of voters, not everything is so obvious

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: Al1977

ALL decisions are consistent with the President, who has doubts about this? Is the president dumber than all of you here? If so, then 86% of the population disagrees with you. They are dumb too

Yes, here's the news for you, vote:
The Federation Council on February 26 approved a federal law providing for an increase in excise taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel from April 1 to 2016. According to the Ministry of Finance of Russia, this will increase the federal budget revenues by 90 billion rubles in 2016 year, and also provoke an increase in fuel prices by an average of 5 percent.
The adopted regulatory act amends the Tax Code of the Russian Federation. In connection with these changes, the excise tax rate per liter of gasoline will increase by two rubles, per liter of diesel fuel - per ruble.

[atalef]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Quote: Al1977

ALL decisions are consistent with the President, who has doubts about this? Is the president dumber than all of you here? If so, then 86% of the population disagrees with you. They are dumb too

Yes, here's the news for you, vote:
The Federation Council on February 26 approved a federal law providing for an increase in excise taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel from April 1 to 2016. According to the Ministry of Finance of Russia, this will increase the federal budget revenues by 90 billion rubles in 2016 year, and also provoke an increase in fuel prices by an average of 5 percent.
The adopted regulatory act amends the Tax Code of the Russian Federation. In connection with these changes, the excise tax rate per liter of gasoline will increase by two rubles, per liter of diesel fuel - per ruble.

Well tomorrow the rating will be 92%

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: atalef

Well tomorrow the rating will be 92%

we have 146

[Wolka]

all one irreplaceable Medvedev swamp, enough to rely on oil and gas, it is high time to bring to light alternative energy sources and modern production technologies

[Al1977]

Quote: Volka

all one irreplaceable Medvedev swamp, enough to rely on oil and gas, it is high time to bring to light alternative energy sources and modern production technologies

And who are you proposing, who are these people, who will immediately introduce innovations and ensure economic growth, they will transplant thieves, they will raise pensions, they will reduce taxes, they will build roads and pay 5000 euros each. You can have a couple of names, although I have a concept, I will vote for them.

[4ekist]

And who will output? Mr. Chubais or what?

[Good cat]

Chase "effective managers" with a rag!

[Starik72]

I agree with you. Good cat! Under Stalin, all of these Chubais, Kudrins, Siluyanovs, Dvorkovichi and others like them would have long been sawing trees at a logging site, with confiscation of property from them and their relatives. So draw conclusions, dear participants of VO! Under STALIN there were 12 Sovnarkhozovs, that is, ministries. And what time is it now? Who will answer? And no one is responsible for anything.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Starik72

Under Stalin, all of these Chubais, Kudrins, Siluyanovs, Dvorkovichi and others like them would have long been sawing trees at a logging site, with confiscation of property from them and their relatives. So draw conclusions, dear participants of VO! Under STALIN there were 12 Sovnarkhozovs, that is, ministries. And what time is it now? Who will answer? And no one is responsible for anything.

And these Chubais still continue to "drink blood" from the people and first of all it is necessary to "dispossess" them a little.
The highest proportion of wealthy people of the level of oligarchs in Russia is among Mountain Jews. This and other similar conclusions were reached by the journalists of the website Lenta.ru on the basis of a project they carried out to study the ethnic composition of the richest citizens of Russia. The research was based on the Forbes magazine rating "200 richest businessmen in Russia", the ethnic structure of which was analyzed.
The share of Russian oligarchs is 44,5% of the total capital of the 200 richest people in Russia. But it should be noted that the percentage of Russians among the entire population of Russia reaches 80,9%. The share of the Jewish rich in the "total capital" of the oligarchs is less than that of the Russians - 21%, but this despite the fact that the number of Jews in Russia does not exceed 0,11%. As for the Ukrainians closing the top three, their respective indicators: 12% - in finance and 1,4% - among the population of Russia.
http://izrus.co.il/oligarhi/article/2014-10-28/25893.html

[VNP1958PVN]

Judging by the increasing demoralization of the population, we have another bureaucratic oligarchic victory!

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: VNP1958PVN

Judging by the increasing demoralization of the population,

The Ministry of Energy has developed a new methodology for calculating the price of heat, based on the calculation of the so-called “alternative boiler room” price.

We are preparing for a new increase in heat prices - do not go to the grandmother wange)))

[atalef]

Quote: afdjhbn67

Quote: VNP1958PVN

Judging by the increasing demoralization of the population,

The Ministry of Energy has developed a new methodology for calculating the price of heat, based on the calculation of the so-called “alternative boiler room” price.

We are preparing for a new increase in heat prices - do not go to the grandmother wange)))

Alternative boiler room?
Hey . Nikolay !!
You are absolutely right when words like - reform, alternative boiler room appear. PLATO (toll is not to be called the same), spiritual bonds.
Remember in Chonkin, Lyushka Myakisheva speaks at a meeting, we, all as one, in someone else's territory --- and the people sideways - sideways and rushed to the store. So far, prices have not increased or something is left.

[Gardamir]

PLATO (do not name the toll)

Today it seems on Russia-24 showed the survey data. so 51% are happy with another tax

[Gomunkul]

so 51% are happy with another tax

Well then, for them, another good news.

Moscow. February 26th. INTERFAX.RU - At a meeting on Friday, the State Duma adopted on first reading and in general the law on increasing excise taxes on gasoline of various classes, diesel fuel and middle distillates.
Amendments to the Tax Code suggest increasing from April 1, 2016

[atalef]

Quote: Gardamir

PLATO (do not name the toll)

Today it seems on Russia-24 showed the survey data. so 51% are happy with another tax

So is it at the request of the workers?

State Duma deputies on Friday adopted in three readings a law on increasing excise taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel from April 1, 2016, Interfax reports. The Federation Council approved the law, adopted in three readings by the State Duma.
This measure is forced. The proposed additional increase in excise taxes is one of the solutions, among others, to mobilize federal budget revenues, "Deputy Finance Minister Yuri Zubarev said at a meeting of the State Duma.
the price increase due to the excise tax will be within the predicted inflation rate, namely 7-8%, "the deputy minister said.

[Starik72]

Nikolay. And in Belarus, we equated the maintenance of the elevator to the square meter of the apartment I occupied, so both YOU and US have enough headshots.

[Oml]

No one thinks what will happen in 15 years. The rich need to grab now and that's it. Until the state turns rigidly to issues of planning and control, there will be no sense.

[Vadim237]

In 15 years, it will be the same as now the rich will get rich, the poor will get poorer and the market economy will die out - there is confidence that we will get out of this crisis in 4-6 years, and maybe sooner.

[Amurets]

Quote: Vadim237

there is confidence that we will come out of this crisis in 4-6 years, and maybe sooner.

Where? Anus diarrhea? Or slavery to Geyrope and Am?

Quote: bad

maybe it will be enough for the Ministry of Finance to test something all the time? we are not laboratory mice .. for gruel, yes for bunks and so that with the confiscation of these "testers" ..

It is there that we can test the recipe for GMO gourd, on the organisms of our "Effective Managers".

[4ekist]

With our "leaders" and in 100 years we will not get out.

[atalef]

Quote: OML

No one thinks what will happen through 15 le

Is thinking

In 15 years, Russia will become a comfortable state for life, in which no one will be interested in oil prices and the dollar. Such an opinion on Wednesday, January 13, was expressed by the Minister of Economic Development Alexei Ulyukaev, speaking at the Gaidar Forum in Moscow, RIA Novosti reports.

https://lenta.ru/news/2016/01/13/sweetdreams/

[koroed]

For some reason, there is a unity of people and government: instead of working, they closely monitor fluctuations in oil and dollar prices and prefer to keep their savings in dollars and euros, rather than in national currency.

[yuriy55]

Quote: koroed

At least something is the unity of the people and the government ...

In our country, not only the people and the government are united, we are united, practically, everything - from small to large. We are all sitting at a large feeding trough ...
One trouble: there are few places near it, and all the spoons are different ...

[Pvi1206]

The predictions of government economists are based on fortune-telling on the coffee grounds. Therefore, they never come true. The president made Sergei Glazyev his advisor, but he is pursuing an economic policy that is opposite to his recommendations. The fact is that GDP still remains highly dependent on the people who brought it to power. This is Chubais and so on. And this company works for the interests of the West, not Russia. Rather, VVP will not run for the next term than betray its “comrades”. But life will show: if we live longer, we will see.

[Oml]

All these investments in foreign securities and funds are also useless. As well-known traders burn, according to the experience of all these early investments, they "pissed away the people's money." These investments will be opposed by billions of dollars of Western competitors and opponents, various Soros, etc.

[nrex]

Quote: koroed

For some reason, there is a unity of people and government: instead of working, they closely monitor fluctuations in oil and dollar prices and prefer to keep their savings in dollars and euros, rather than in national currency.

Well, not on the Maidan, our overseas partner. (judging by the flag) Let's get through, we definitely don't need revolutions. Have ate. One Krajina is enough. Control over every penny leaving our country. Control at customs terminals for goods and customs officers. And to judge embezzlers as traitors to the fatherland. And then "red slippers" as a mockery of the people. Shame.

[Taygerus]

until we return the planned economy and capital punishment for embezzlement in especially large sizes, there will be no sense whatsoever, and let the liberals be put on a ship and sent to the Mariana Trench, let them carry out reforms there

[Gardamir]

until we return

Who will return? Anyone who claims that Russia is doomed to liberalism and erects monuments to the destroyers of the state certainly does not want a planned economy.

[fa2998]

Quote: bad

maybe the ministry has enough time to try something all the time?

Quote: Good cat

Chase "effective managers" with a rag!

Quote: Good cat

all one irreplaceable Medvedev swamp,

In short, the prime minister and the government are to blame for everything! And there are NO MORE officials in the PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLIC that are guilty of the fact that we are led by "managers from the swamp", nobody else needs to be driven away with a "rag"! Or you are embarrassed to develop the idea!

[Nix1986]

To our great regret, we have recently had such representatives of the authorities that the main quality of the president is considered by the majority of the people "if only the athlete does not drink." It would be more correct to say that the majority of the people do not want the best president, but are afraid of much worse.

[atalef]

Quote: Nix1986

It is more correct to say that the majority of the people want the president not the best, but they are afraid of much worse.

Does anyone exist in all of Russia better?

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Nix1986

It is more correct to say that the majority of the people want the president not the best, but they are afraid of much worse.

Does anyone exist in all of Russia better?

No, don’t even linger on ,,,, IF THE BORNE BAD EVERYTHING WOULD NOT SPORT SO TALE AT ALL))))

[Nix1986]

It is naive to think that in a country with a population of 140 million people there is no literate manager. It is another matter that now the entire system with a vertical of power, a puppet opposition and an environment for the cultivation of state personnel in the form of a YEDRO completely suppresses any attempts to change something, which is disadvantageous for several nobles. On this occasion, a clear answer was repeatedly given "the results of the privatization of the 90s will not be revised." in fact, an amnesty was declared. Everyone will draw conclusions from this phrase himself, but they are clearly defined.

[atalef]

Quote: Nix1986

It is naive to think that in a country with a population of 140 million people there is no competent manager. It’s another matter that now the whole system with a vertical of power, a puppet opposition and an environment for cultivating government personnel in the form of a UDR is at the root of any attempts to change something that is disadvantageous for several nobles

Well, that would not loosen the vertical

Quote: Nix1986

On this occasion, a clear answer was repeatedly given: "the results of the privatization of the 90s will not be revised

And why, frankly? Learn to manage it, or do you think the new ones will be better?

[Nix1986]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Nix1986

On this occasion, a clear answer was repeatedly given: "the results of the privatization of the 90s will not be revised

And why, frankly? Learn to manage it, or do you think the new ones will be better?

Then, to put it mildly, the assets as a result of this privatization were not bought at fair value. But the incident is that the question was addressed to people, many of whom are the owners of these assets. Therefore, the question is relevant and understandable from a legal point of view, but it is rather rhetorical and the answer is already known.

[atalef]

Quote: Nix1986

Moreover, to put it mildly, assets as a result of this privatization were not bought at fair value.

Another redistribution? And now they will be bought at fair value? And if they don’t buy it?
And who will buy it? Suddenly, after 10 years, it would seem to someone that the last time the price was * not fair *
?

Quote: Nix1986

Therefore, the question is relevant and understandable from a legal point of view,

The question is not atyual from any point of view, a country that does not respect private property - has no future.

[Nix1986]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Nix1986

Therefore, the question is relevant and understandable from a legal point of view,

The question is not atyual from any point of view, a country that does not respect private property - has no future.

I think that in any country with a developed jurisdiction in the relevant section of legislation there is such a clause "An agreement as a result of which private property was obtained in violation of the law is considered invalid and the parties to such an agreement must return everything received under this agreement to each other." Something like this. But in general, the question was rhetorical, the point is not who and how knows how to manage property (if Schumacher knows how to drive better than me, this is not a reason to take my car away from me), but the fact that it was obtained illegally, causing harm to the state. It's just that the very fact that we had such a robbery and in fact declared an amnesty for it is a fat spot in our initial history and legal field. But I repeat once again, all this is a rhetorical question, this has already happened and nothing can be changed here.

[Gardamir]

Does anyone exist in all of Russia better?

It depends on what is meant by the word "better". If you wait for a magic fairy. who comes and rasfeyat everything, then probably not. But those who at least start a turn, from the invisible hand of the market, to the people's-state economy. I think there will be.

[Al1977]

Quote: Gardamir

Does anyone exist in all of Russia better?

It depends on what is meant by the word "better". If you wait for a magic fairy. who comes and rasfeyat everything, then probably not. But those who at least start a turn, from the invisible hand of the market, to the people's-state economy. I think there will be.

And with the "national-state economy" it will also be possible to simply buy a car, an imported TV and a telephone, and go wherever I want to rest? Or it will be like in the USSR, my parents stood in line for a car for 15 years .. If everything is like in ..pardon Europe and more money, then I am "for" both hands. If you wait for the USSR ... then perhaps I'm for the market))) I somehow became akin to a foreign car))

[Gardamir]

And with the "national-state economy" it will also be possible to simply buy a car, an imported TV and a telephone, and go wherever I want to rest? Or it will be like in the USSR, my parents stood in line for a car for 15 years .. If everything is like in ..pardon Europe and more money, then I am "for" both hands. If you wait for the USSR ... then perhaps I'm for the market))) I somehow became akin to a foreign car))

We visited the USSR, now we live in the Resource Federation. Who's stopping us from looking for a middle ground?

[Al1977]

Quote: atalef

Does anyone exist in all of Russia better? belay

Volodin, who is the deputy head of the administration. I have already said that Russia is Putin, Putin is Russia, therefore there will be no Russia without Putin))) It is not too late, we need to develop cloning and make clones of our GDP so that they rule forever, well, Medvedev’s clones ... well, what would the tandemers arrange once every 12 years))

[Alex_59]

In principle, I did not see anything terrible in the read, except for the lack of redistribution of income from oil and gas revenues to the development of industry. This is of course terrible. The current rulers do not want to remember Uncle Joe. And under much worse conditions he bought almost all the necessary technologies around the world, due to which he suddenly: the atomic bomb and the first man in space.
The fact that there is a budget of 42% depends on oil is the little things in life. MET and oil and gas taxes are calculated according to such a complex scheme that as a result, when oil prices fall by 3 times, we have a drop in budget revenues of only a few%.

[Nix1986]

Well, why there is no support for the real sector, recently only again our VAZ automobile mausoleum screamed for gigantic losses and again right now they will throw part of the money to it. For fun, go to drive.ru, where the material cost of VAZ models and a similar class of other concerns and their wholesale selling price were laid out. The cost of materials lada xray 700 + TR I can logically explain nothing but rollbacks to purchasing managers in AvtoVAZ. So the real sector and the real real sector living at the expense of its profit, and not around the neck of the people are two different things.

[atalef]

Quote: Nix1986

lada xray in 700 + tr I can logically explain nothing but rollbacks to purchasing managers in AvtoVAZ. So the real sector and the real real sector living at the expense of its profit

You are trying to combine a not quite compatible, real sector and AvtoVAZ.
AvtoVAZ in general has its own world, its own universe, its own ideas about beauty, quality, price and signs of profitability. And they generally do not interfere with reality in any way.

[Nix1986]

That's what I wrote about in the conclusion "So the real sector and the truly real sector living on their own profits, and not on the neck of the people are different things." I don’t remember the exact date offhand, but in the year 98, when VAZ was part of the Russian Technologies holding, Volkswagen came out with an offer to buy it, and Chemezov did not even mind. But then he was told "SHA", and the media left the message that the country would not allow to die or go to another player of the country's pride - our auto industry (although when it became known how many deputies the director of VAZ had and that almost everyone had their own private plane, into the patriotic the exclamation "the pride of the country" could only be believed by someone who was stuck in a tank). On the human side, I feel sorry for the people working in Togliatti if the plant is closed, but on the other hand, this bottomless barrel and the VAZ's den of corruption is sitting on the neck of the whole country.

[CONTROL]

"... If you bring together nine pregnant women, the child will still not be born in a month!" ... where would it come from? ...
And, on the other hand, that he was born in a month - at least one! - you need to have many women with different gestational periods! Logically ...
... and in order to have many women with different terms - you need them - what? - yeah, have it! regularly, moreover ... What is technically not feasible with progressive impotence ... government officials, the Ministry of Economic Development, the Economy Anal Analyst ... financial ex-perds ... and other others ...
Or at least - stop guessing on the coffee grounds about the prices of oil, but - to extract it, for the internal market, for external consumers who buy it; to recall "... we are drowning with banknotes" - and to put pressure on (invest funds) on the development of petrochemicals; more actively target economic analysts-strategists at destruction (yes, exactly destruction, it was necessary to think about it for a long time!) Bretton Woods ... External market prices for oil and gas - they are in my head! in herself ...
... And physical strength in its pure form is needed only when working with a spoon! and even then - you still need to think about which end to keep it!

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

In my opinion, our entire economic bloc of the government with their advisers and assistants is just the time to drown in an oil tank. ..

[aleks 62 next]

..... In my opinion, our entire economic bloc of the government with their advisers and assistants is just the time to drown in the oil tank. ..

... ..... Do not drown .... The density of (oil) is large .... Although the idea is tempting ...

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: aleks 62 next

Do not drown ...

This substance finally does not sink

[Mountain shooter]

So that's the whole problem! The state does not have a mechanism for investing money in industry, except for the state order. And this is where effective managers "with saws" await. And nothing can be done about it. As soon as a government order appears, corruption immediately appears. All over the world, the USA is much grander than ours.
The high rate of the Central Bank does not allow you to take bank loans, and playing the stock exchange generates incomes higher than industrial production. Not so simple.
Here they are, the super profits from oil. But if they are simply "thrown into the economy", they will raise the value of the ruble, and it will become profitable to buy everything abroad, which we saw in the "fat years." Production in Russia was decrepit (including food) precisely because it was impossible to compete with imports.

[Corsair]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Here they are, the super profits from oil. But if they are simply "thrown into the economy", they will raise the value of the ruble, and it will become profitable to buy everything abroad, which we saw in the "fat years." Production in Russia was decrepit (including food) precisely because it was impossible to compete with imports.

And if you throw them into long-term projects, create large industrial facilities, technological R&D, etc. And for goods imported from abroad to raise customs duties, not all of course, mainly those that are impossible to produce at home.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Corsair

not all of course, mainly those that are impossible to produce at home.

Then all the same, do not raise everything)))))

[sergeyzzz]

Here's an interesting situation - everyone scolds the financiers, whose main task is to make a profit at any cost, poorly, but they can cope, but no one wants to remember that the industry should be dealt not with banks, but with a specialized ministry, which is never heard of and can not see. Where is it AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU !! You scold some, but others do not want to work. Where is their plan for the development of industry, applications for project financing? Maybe the same Kudrin would have allocated money to them, so nowhere!

[OlegYola]

How to bring the rating of GDP to 99%. At a meeting of the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia, to arrange a scuffle under the camera, with falling out, kicks from the hall;)

[Cap.Morgan]

The meaning of these articles, both this and the previous ones, is to interfere with the shit of rulers and admire Leninism - Stalinism.
Moreover, none of the current regulars of supermarkets does not want in their souls either to forest in the taiga, not to live in a hut, not to eat on cards ...
Friend!
Our rulers are all from the people! They all went to the same schools as we did, spent their childhood in the same slum dwellers, we have the most popular government in the world! Well there will be no other.
And the meaning of the bay? On Ukre boomed. Ukrainians wanted everything to be good. But it turned out as always.
Now answer honestly.
Which of you over the past year washed the floor in the entrance. Put on the wheels an overturned trash can? He took a shovel and scooped up snow at the entrance ...
Yes, no one.
Passed by, a tambourine - the rulers are to blame ... And then the rulers did it? You have to start with yourself, dear ones.

[Nix1986]

For 2015, he paid 2,6 million taxes only. I get up at 5 in the morning and come home from work at 8 in the evening. Do I have the right to criticize the government and ask for work? No. I didn’t bring down the forest and I don’t eat on the card. You stupid comment.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Nix1986

For 2015, he paid 2,6 million taxes only ...

What can I say? You bankers have their own quirks. You work with money, unlike those who stuff corns with more primitive, constructive work ...

[Nix1986]

My grandmothers near the entrance believe that I am: a killer, a bandit, a thief, a pimp. Marya Ivanovna, isn’t you an hour ???
PS I have nothing to do with banks. My contribution to GDP is real, you can touch it with your hands. I confess that there are no rich relatives, all that is is everyday work and health is no longer that, but of course you can’t understand this with calloused hands.
I already wrote about our mentality, my phrase had a different meaning, but you saw only that, sorry ...

[yuriy55]

I, dear, I, darling! Al did not recognize the profile picture?

I have lived so much that I hear from almost everyone going to the polls about these real contributions to GDP and about honest work without blisters. To you personally, as a retired officer, I’ll say without mats and other offensive turns:

Quote: Nix1986

My contribution to GDP is real, you can touch it with your hands.

THOSE WHO POSITION ON THE PENIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALSO CONSIDER YOUR CONTRIBUTION REAL, AND THAT YOU CAN FEEL HIS HANDS ...

[dzeredzavkomimu]

well, well, well, and when our cards were canceled and in Europe after the war, enlighten, did you build barracks for your information, like temporary housing during some kind of construction, to cut down the forest? And who worked at the plants, plowed the land, went to the seas , he served in the army, taught children and treated people? Are you right, they all went to Soviet schools, and it didn’t fall off the moon, the proverb went to the riches, nobody canceled it, but it characterizes the worst manifestation of a simple person who has taken power, and all the people have nothing to do with it. Especially your exclamation touches-YES NO ONE! do you answer for your words? Or judge by yourself? Do you clean your yard or wait for a janitor, with the words, they pay him for it? There is no sense in the bay, you are right, but I’ll tell you according to ..secret .. all the current prosperity of the European Union was forged in the 70-80s by trade unions organized with organized crime who organized mass strikes and red brigades that killed bankers and other .. owners of factories .. for economic use, so there are such pensions and termination benefits and unemployment, and not because they are so good there, these bourgeois. Do you offer us such a path?

[faridg7]

That is, I have to pay utility bills, and then also go for the communal workers to work out this money? I’m curious, but then the janitor will come to me in the aggregate and will take the box for me, and will pour me the money for this?
No need to blame from a sore head for a healthy one. For example, I don’t have to start with myself here, I honestly work out my hard-earned money and there is a demand for them from me. And I’m interested in adjusting the demand from officials for my money

[Million]

In the fall of 2015, government economists predicted an increase in oil prices to the level of $ 45-50 per barrel by March 2016. Only a few days are left until March, and so far the jump in the barrel for more than 15 dollars clearly does not bode well.

The forest must be cut down by these "economists".

[Kudrevkn]

On December 9, the DAM said that the progressive personal income tax was not in a position to collect by his government, so there was no point in introducing (almost 1 trillion rubles?). Further, on January 25 - "we will not turn on the machine" ?, it is better to bankrupt Transaero, Bash Neft, AvtoVAZ, UVZ, Kurganmashzavod, Ural Az, etc. The economy is shrinking from a lack of money like pebbled leather, and Kinder 2.0 “valotilite” on black, not knowing where the bay is pulling and where will it take it? My "bratelnik" Kudrin of the same spill - to export grew. capital in the USA - that's the whole recipe! Naebullina and her friend Ksyusha, too, only dream of expensive oil and dream, instead of increasing processing capacities or at least modernizing them in a short time - even Dvorkovich understands - they need to sell goods with high added value (gasoline, kerosene), and not raw materials! But why organize and invest in production - he stupidly sold common oil, and sent the money to the US to his family and sit there - be smart about prices and quotes, value, etc. ????

[Gray brother]

Quote: KudrevKN

in order to increase processing capacities, or even modernize them at least in a short time, Dvorkovich understands that they need to sell goods with high surplus value (gasoline, kerosene), and not raw materials!

This kakbe rests on the shoulders of the oil workers, not the Ministry of Finance. And yet in Russia more than half of the oil produced is refined "at home", although these were mainly heavy fuels (due to the fact that the factories are still Soviet), however, before the crisis, Russian oil companies were concerned about the modernization of capacities and the depth of refining increased slightly.

12 companies - Lukoil, Gazprom Neft, Rosneft, TNK BP (became part of Rosneft in 2013), Surgutneftegas, Tatneft, Alliance, Bashneft, Slavneft ”,“ Gazprom ”,“ RussNeft ”and APG“ Yug Rusi ”(“ Novoshakhtinsky Oil Products Plant ”) - committed to modernize their refineries to switch to the production of better types of oil products. The relevant departments and officials have appointed to monitor compliance by these companies with the obligations stipulated by the agreements, and in case of non-fulfillment, to make decisions on initiating administrative cases using various sanctions ...

Currently, the modernization process is somewhat inhibited but not stopped.

[vladimirvn]

The world is used to using templates, it's easier. Kudrinomics was already there. Forgot? We collect up to a kopeck money in American securities, "otherwise they will rob us."

[Cap.Morgan]

Now we live on this money. These programs are financed from these funds, the rearmament of the army is the same ... you think where the money came from, but from there, from the Kudrinsk stash.

[NordUral]

I think that we all would live a little better if this stash had worked for the country and people all these years.

[afrikanez]

How frightened our "economists" suddenly decided that the oil price would be in the region of $ 45-50 per barrel, and even managed to adopt the budget taking into account such a price. This is a complete mediocrity in economic matters, we do not need such "fucking economists". let them go to Europe and save there

[atalef]

[quote = afrikanez] How frightened our "economists" suddenly decided that the oil price would be in the region of $ 45-50 per barrel, and even managed to accept the budget taking into account this price [/ quote]
Well, the chief said
[quote] Putin: the global economy will collapse while maintaining oil prices $ 80 / quote] - he can’t be wrong more than 2 times
[quote = afrikanez] we don't need such "fucking economists". [/ quote]
Neither shoot a pianist - he does not know how better.

[NordUral]

What not to dream about, if only not to engage in production.

[Geosun]

“So, it’s not necessary to expect planned investments in the real sector, although, by and large, this is not the Ministry of Finance’s business. The task of the modern Ministry of Finance is extremely simple - to reduce the level of government spending and, if possible, save money.”
Here is the only correct thought of the article. We do not live in the USSR, where everything belonged to the state, in Russia private property and it is businessmen who are guilty of only ruining enterprises, and not developing them.
But the state is to blame for the majority, and the business is all so white and fluffy, sandwiched from all sides.

[Vadim237]

In our country, state-owned enterprises are basically ruined by all kinds of appointees to the bosses, but businessmen are aimed at making their business prosper - because the guys created it themselves.

[SPACE]

Quote: Geosun

Итак ...

The only sensible comment
Much can be added to this, much has already been said, it is impossible to put everything in one comment, in general it is the topic of a whole separate article, which urgently needs to be written to clarify and eliminate illiteracy for people with an extremely overexcited sense of proletarism.
People simply don’t understand that there are no alternatives and there are no such people, leaders and wise men of red or white who would be able to quickly realize their Wishlist in the economy, industry and social sphere, in these conditions including and especially, if there is external pressure peacefully and without changing the political system!
And if all the same, to make such drastic changes and change the system, as stupid and nutty patriots of all stripes require, this can lead to:
In the first case, a civil war, because not everyone will agree with these revolutionary changes, including the alegarchs, will tear off all economic internal and external relations and markets, which will actually paralyze the economy, lead to a decrease in solvency and a decline in production, and a decline in welfare citizens, even greater poverty, unemployment, the decline in defense, the sale of everything and everything, including land of cultural property resources, may provoke the introduction of external forces, the loss of sovereignty and ultimately th section of the country.
And in the second, best version, if you're lucky, it will lead to the loss of civil liberties and the forced, in order to preserve statehood, the most severe totalitarian government. People will have to learn the slogans again, "we will overtake," party workers. Forget about trips to foreign resorts and imported clothes, etc.

[NordUral]

Your forecasts are not necessarily the only correct ones. It is possible in another way, without blood and horror stories about the system to walk.

[Belousov]

This is just the real 5 column. They are not gutturals like Navalny with Yashin, but these are the Kudrins, Grefs, Dvorkovichs, and other Nabiullins with Medvedevs and Chubais. And it covers them in this whole thing ... That's right, the sun-faced and moon-like luminous himself ...

[NordUral]

These are the throats - the smokescreen of the liberals.

[Nikolay71]

government economists have once again signed off on the inviolability of the ideals of Alexei Kudrin and his "kudrinomics"
But what about without Kudrin. After all, in some year he was recognized as the best finance minister of the world.

[vladimirvn]

Mind Russia - do not disturb!

[Izotovp]

Our greed factor goes off scale: how much is electricity for export and how much for the domestic market, hence the cost of railway transportation, and they want to eat VZD very well and so on ...
An example from one of these days: a man came to the craftsmen so that they would carry out preventive maintenance and a small repair of the gas reducer in the car. Those billed: 8000 rubles. The man was slightly surprised, went to the store and bought a new one for 5000 ... And there are a lot of such examples.

[Zurmansor]

kamenty as always deliver. we will return the planned economy, we will shoot the managers, we will revive Lenin. people, are you serious ???

[NordUral]

Very serious. Only shoot and revive no one. Let the dead rest in peace, and living liberals have enough work on the logging.

[Rostislav]

A lot, if not all, can be corrected by the universal introduction of just one rule - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for the work performed.
No more objective reasons for "didn't work out" are over. Only subjective ones remained, i.e. inability or unwillingness to work.
There is an unfinished house put into operation only on paper - ALL members of the commission who signed the acceptance certificate are subject to unconditional dismissal. And they’ll go much further, to Kolyma or to the labor exchange, it is up to the prosecutor’s office to decide.
And extend this practice to the entire "vertical". How long will the Siluanovs-Ulyukayevs-Nabiulins stay then? Yes, and very expensive, in the sense that it costs us very dearly, Chubais with its NANO-achievements in real, constructive affairs (not to be confused with theft, here are some achievements).
And then it suddenly turns out that for the revival of the country it takes no more time than it took Stalin after the devastation of the Second World War.

[NordUral]

It was precisely today that a certain Minkin, the light of the liberals, began to water Stalin again. And the rest of the participants in this Sabbath did not lag behind in this matter.

[stopkran]

Until the liberal HSE is thrown out of the government, like tattered cats, dances with a tambourine will continue instead of real economic management.

[16112014nk]

Quote: atalef

3% is normal

Regarding -3%, Medvedev says: "We have negative economic growth of 3%. "This turns out to be - negative, but growing!

[Ze Kot]

As usual, gasoline and gas will rise in price for the population and will raise taxes for small and medium-sized businesses ... They don’t know how to work differently.

[slaventi]

Quote: atalef

And you say -3% as if normal, which is normal? This is actually -8% of the minimum required for progress indicators. This is the scum of the country's development at 2-3 years ago.

Actually, it was 400 years ago. Under the USSR, GDP is 22% of the world, Under Tsar Nikolay1 8% of the world, Under the liberal government of Medvedev, 1,5% of the world’s GDP. And this year even less.
from and all arithmetic. Change the course to throw liberals, lower the Central Bank rate so here is the recipe.

[syndicalist]

Kudrinomics here means an economy of such a nature, in which any income received in excess of budget plans goes exclusively to the small box,

Since there are no incomes and are not foreseen in excess of the budget plan, Kudrinomics is impossible, that with Kudrin, that without

[lablizn]

When I hear blatant calls for the investment of state budget funds in the "real sector of the economy" (this sounds both from the government and from the business community, and now from the outside, how to put it mildly, analysts), it immediately occurs to me certain (not entirely good) thoughts.
What is meant by this overarching "real sector" anyway?
What are the specific sectors of a state or capitalist economy?
Maybe the notorious small and medium business?
Which, it should be noted, for some reason we focus mainly on beauty salons, fitness clubs, travel agencies and others, well, absolutely necessary, say for rural residents or working outskirts of cities.
You might think that we are not building new enterprises.
Are under construction! Not fast enough, the pace is not like in the first five-year plans, but the conditions, both geopolitical and socio-economic, are still different.
It is necessary to take into account the fact that during the 90s we raped what we are currently witnessing in Ukraine, and that the filling of the country's pension fund, to put it mildly, leaves much to be desired, and that the communal sphere, including Housing and utilities, also not at the proper level. All this is mainly on the shoulders of the state. the budget.
And screaming about investing in some kind of abstract "real sector" is pure demagoguery!

[They <b>accompany you</b>]

money in the budget is like water in a sieve taxes-bank-budget-organization-bank-england Russians have a lot of money just not from those ...
Ex-president of the Bank “Moscow Lights” Maria Roslyak sentenced to four years of the colony in the case of embezzlement 6.1 billion credit organization. Execution of sentence delayed by 14 years

[chunga-changa]

Someone else believes that this whole gop company works for the good of our country, and not in the interests of its foreign owners?

[hobot]

Of course, the Americans put theirs - our corrupt people at the helm, but did not calculate their strength - the power is too big - there are no reserves. But who will correct this all in the interests of the borders and the people is certainly a question.
And then the abolition of the death penalty and scarecrow by the 37th year the warhorse of the liberals.
Amendment of the constitution under dictation from the State Department.
Who in the country doubts the criminal activity of the Chubais team? And what does that change?
Do you go to the polls?

[Fastenkov]

And what is surprisingly sudden? If you plan on the basis of WORLD WORLD, then you need to invest in development. If there is no confidence in the peaceful course of future life, then it is necessary to accumulate reserves and raise the military-industrial complex. The situation is risky right now, so it's best to play it safe. And money from foreign "storage" to slowly extract ... ... there is enough to finance the industry.

[eyed]

But I’ll tell you what - our government guys are doing everything right! Very right, they could and even more correctly, they will succeed! That's just, damn it, a small question - for whom they are doing? And the same little answer - for yourself !!!
After all, if you sell oil, gas, wood, etc. in your own country for processing, then it’s also for rubles. And why the heck are they rubles? Prailnaya - not nada! Why the heck to produce something from raw materials, when you can gladly sell raw materials .... and bucks - here they are, alive and behind the cordon. And no troubles!
And the fact that there is not enough bucks at all is not sadness - they have enough. All this Codla provided for 300 years ahead. That's what I understand - right!
"Everyone will be rich! (Except the poor)" (C). (I forgot which movie, it seems about Kotovsky - an old film). A wonderful phrase! And this "covenant" is being fulfilled in our country perfectly well.
A lot more can be written on this Temko, but only if it is necessary. "The well-fed does not understand the hungry" - folk wisdom .....

[yuriy55]

I would like (until someone has thrown off his legs or somewhere gone away) to figure out the external debts of the Russian Federation, where they came from and how they fight with them:
According to the Central Bank, the total external debt of Russia as of January 1, 2016 is 515,254 billion dollars ...

These numbers are interesting:
Banks of the Russian Federation in 2015 managed to reduce external debts by 22,8% - from 171,45 to 132,349 billion dollars.

At the same time, the external debt of the Central Bank by January 1, 2016 increased by 8,7% - from 10,599 to 11,528 billion dollars.

The most ambitious external debts of Russia traditionally belong to “other sectors” - domestic companies, enterprises and organizations.
However, according to the results of 2015. a decrease in external corporate debt by 9,2% - from 375,386 to 340,633 billion dollars.

Yes, completely here:
http://global-finances.ru/vneshniy-dolg-rossii-2016/

[Signaller]

I would Kudrin- (Well, the pepper is clear in an exaggerated way. In general, to the entire economic block), I would fill in a destiveder enema and watch .... Whether the price will rise or not. I think in this case the prediction was more correct .. It felt more accurate on the toilet. And then all sorts of fat trusts like Ulyuk Bashi. "Volatility, turbulence, or whatever" gets in the way. As you know, a bad dancer, what prevents ???? Go away and not any problems ... No, they are sitting-Eggs that are they hatching ????

[Grave of B. Cross2]

Putin praised Yeltsin in the strongest epithets! And he opened the Yeltsin Center. And we fools thought that he would anathematize Yeltsin and his course towards the collapse of the country. Shish!

[tchoni]

But, if my memory serves me correctly, when the reserve fund was created, the main goal was to ensure the stability of the ruble. This was precisely its meaning. If the ruble is not stable, what is the point of a stabilization fund? EP's personal piggy bank? or who?

[Governor]

Quote: Nix1986

Well, why there is no support for the real sector, recently only again our VAZ automobile mausoleum screamed for gigantic losses and again right now they will throw part of the money to it. For fun, go to drive.ru, where the material cost of VAZ models and a similar class of other concerns and their wholesale selling price were laid out. The cost of materials lada xray 700 + TR I can logically explain nothing but rollbacks to purchasing managers in AvtoVAZ. So the real sector and the real real sector living at the expense of its profit, and not around the neck of the people are two different things.

And in rotting America, for the same money (at a more or less adequate exchange rate of 30k1) you can buy a Ford f150 like this.
Just for comparison. And to hell with gays, lesbians and other things - I dream of such a car...
The older generation will not understand me, but before you water the West, you should look at your achievements.

[serverny]

Quote: atalef

- his GDP growth fell below 6.5%

Decent economists know that if China claims growth of 6.5%, most likely real growth was 3-4% maximum. They learn GDP manipulation from the best Western economies (which, while shrinking the real sector by 3-4 percent, manage to show growth of 1-2%).

[serverny]

Quote: lablizn

They are under construction! Just not fast enough

They are being built slower than they are closing. The result is that the real sector of the economy is shrinking and no manipulation of the comrades who compile annual reports can hide this.

[NordUral]

It's time for you, liberals, to retire, or even better - straight to the graveyard, until you put us all to rest.