Syrian air forces continue to exploit Su-22М4

Syrian pilots continue to make sorties on Su-22М4 aircraft, arming them, including with the ODAB-500PMV bombs, also known as vacuum bombs, reports in its article for Messenger of Mordovia Lev Romanov.

“Su-22 has been actively used in combat since the fall of 2012. According to pre-war estimates, Syria had about 40-50 of these machines. Taking into account the intensity of their use, 20-30 of such winged cars can remain in the flying state at the moment, ”the author of the words military expert Yuri Lyamin cites.

According to the expert, "Syrian Su-22 is based on three air bases: Shairat, southeast of Homs, Dumeyr, northeast of Damascus and Tiyas (Т4) between Homs and Palmyra."

Airplanes are armed with mostly unguided bombs and unguided rockets, such as 80-millimeter C-8 and, presumably, 122-mm C-13.

“Depending on the modification, the weight of the NAR C-8 is from 11,3 to 15,2 kg. Missiles can have different warheads: cumulative fragmentation with two thousand "arrows" to destroy manpower, volumetric-detonating, concrete-breaking, lighting, etc. The target firing range is about 2 km. At the maximum distance - scattering about 6 meters from the aiming point, ”the author writes.

“As for the C-13, this product can weigh from 57 to 68 kg. The mass of the warhead from 21 to 32 kg. The launch range is up to 3 km. Some modifications of this rocket can pierce a three-meter earthen overlap or 1 reinforced concrete meter, ”Romanov notes.

At present, 5 losses of Su-22 from 2013 are known for sure. The latter was shot down in September of 2015. Which one weapon against him was used, is unknown.

Comments

[Armored optimist]

It will be necessary to convey to them at least what we drove there. And slowly begin to train pilots.
And not for that, for money, but in debt.

[Tor5]

Very logical! With both hands for!

[Michael67]

Well done Syrians. Here is the strength of mind. On the old Soviet technology and quite productively. That’s what it means - the truth is on their side. Remember the materials about the pilots from the Malvinas Islands? How they gave the request to Anglo-Saxes on an ancient flying technique.

[Temples]

And slowly begin to train pilots.
And not for that, for money, but in debt.

No money, no?
Is money the main thing?
Then immediately with the American goats you need to discuss the price of surrendering Assad.
And then suddenly the Syrians have no money for training.

Help is now not held in high esteem?
Or who will die from this?

[atalef]

Quote: Temples

No money, no?

such a question could not be asked
The Syrians never paid for anything. and now already debts on 3 generation Asadov.

[cap]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Temples

No money, no?

such a question could not be asked
The Syrians never paid for anything. and now already debts on 3 generation Asadov.

This is a note of who pays for what.
“The United States has provided annual military aid to Israel since 1987. The FMF program with Israel is the largest of all similar programs currently implemented by the United States. Over the past 26 years, the United States has transferred an average of $ 1,9 billion to Jerusalem annually. Israel's FMF program allows Jerusalem to spend up to 25 percent of US funds on its own military programs, while all other countries receiving military aid are required to spend on purchases of US weapons and military equipment.

It should be noted that the true amount of US military aid to Israel is not known, since the amount of funding, services and supplies of military equipment are disclosed only for the FMF and DCS (direct arms sales) programs. Funding, including for military purposes, is also provided to Israel through the assistance programs of the US Department of State. "
With the budget of Israel,
revenues: $ 68.44 billion
expenses: $ 70.06 billion. Other statistics here:
http://guide-israel.ru/country/7212-ekonomika-izrailya-v-cifrax/
That's something like

[atalef]

Quote: cap

That's something like

And what does this have to do with

Quote: atalef

Quote: CERHJ

It is not true

Well then, confirm your allegations.

Quote: CERHJ

It’s just that there’s a stream of information that has nothing to do with the truth. The Syrians just paid

Great, info in the studio. What debts are repaid, loans, etc.

Quote: CERHJ

Itself was present, at one enterprise, when tanks were purchased, and they wanted to get DZ for a freebie at the same price. And they just paid hard currency ..

Did you attend? Did you hand over a suitcase full of money?

[gjv]

Quote: atalef

The Syrians never paid for anything. and now it’s already debts on

According to the IMF, the external debt of Israel for 2016 will be 59,687% of GDP, while the external debt of Syria is only 26,901% of GDP. In dollar terms, every Israeli needs only $ 12, and every Syrian owes as much as $ 312. International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database of September 2011, for countries

Indeed, in Israel, labor productivity and consumption are 33 times higher than in Syria ?!

What are the suitcases ?! Send money in barrels ...

[gergi]

Paid! Convertible money and goods! It is a fact.

[gergi]

And the Jews always took without asking, pi. Dili, if for a simple reason. And at once everything they see is considered their own. Shit people.

[Armored optimist]

You shouldn't run into. Would say "as a gift" would have driven from the other side. You need to fix it. Today they have Assad, and ten years later who? Demand, if you behave well, you can wait, but you need a bundle for memory.

[gergi]

It is possible for nothing. In the old days they did just that. Attitude to a freebie is easy to come, easy to go. Russians still bring, do not mind. They don’t feel sorry for them, but our people were hunchbacked, worked hard. And far from fucking salaries received. You, Mr. Khramov, can give them your salary every month. By friendship, purely to help.

[Irokez]

Quote: Michael67

How they gave the request to Anglo-Saxes on an ancient flying technique.

Well, this is not such an ancient technique (if you compare with the MIG-21) Su 24 and Su-17 (Su-22 in export), consider the same age. Before the collapse of the USSR, we were in service with the Warsaw Pact countries.
This is not a clean bomber or attack aircraft - this is a fighter-bomber and will bomb and stand up for itself if necessary.
Having covered with a bombing canopy he goes to the target along the route.

[gjv]

Quote: Irokez

and Su-17 (Su-22 in export) count the same age

This is necessary in order to consider, to look at the exact data on the forms. For different digits after the Su-22M ... the year of manufacture may differ by 10-12 years. And according to some information, the Syrians did the Su-20s, which were produced before 1975.

[gergi]

This old imperial equipment has such a margin of safety that it is still a formidable and effective weapon.

[alexmach]

It makes no sense. Debt will never be repaid. They can’t.
If the regime does fall to whom the S-400 and armor pumped? is it not to the Americans?

[Primus pilus]

An excellent aircraft for its tasks, the Poles are also still in service. He can use precision weapons.

[Pravdarm]

ODAB-500PMV bombs, also known as vacuum bombs

Let's! REPLACE terrorist clusters with a ringing void!

[gjv]

Quote: Primus Pilus

the Poles also still in service

The Ministry of National Defense of the Republic of Poland refused to modernize the Su-22 fighter-bombers and extend their service life. The resource of aircraft of this type is almost completely exhausted, and all of them will be withdrawn from service by 2016. “We decided that further modernization of the Su-22 is pointless. They are simply morally and technically outdated, ”said Polish Minister of Defense Tomasz Semonyak.
According to the developed plan for updating the country's air force, the Polish military department intends to replace all decommissioned Su-22s with shock unmanned aerial vehicles and multipurpose fighters. In mid-August 2012, the Deputy Minister of Defense of Poland, Waldemar Skrzyczczak announced that the military department intends to acquire 2018 new drone drone by 30. The devices are planned to be assigned to the 21st tactical aviation base in Svidin, located in the north-west of the country in the West Pomeranian Voivodeship. Now there are based Su-22 fighter-bombers.
As for the purchase of multi-role fighters, the American F-16s are preferable here, rather than the options for acquiring the expensive F-35s or European EF-2000 Typhoon aircraft. The Polish Air Force already has experience in operating F-16 fighter jets, and the necessary infrastructure has been created in the country for both providing it and training flight personnel and technical personnel. The main states from which the Polish side can acquire these aircraft are the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway today.
Poles prefer second-hand, but NATO.

[Vladimirets]

On the lack of fish and ... I wanted to write a Su-22 - an airplane, but, I'm afraid, they will not understand correctly. In short for barmaley enough.

[Armored optimist]

In short, on wires, they are repaired with a hammer and a file, smoked, probably with a resource thrice worked out. But they fly! This is our way!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: armored optimist

with three times worked out resource.

These are the newest.

[Papapg]

This report is the best advertisement for Russian weapons!

[samoletil18]

Sorry for the chopped and fried Su-17. They would pass the Syrians! Trained personnel are already available with many necessary components.

[V.ic]

Quote: samoletil18

Sorry for the chopped and fried Su-17

Then, IL-10, IL-28, those birds would be on the profile.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: V.ic

Quote: samoletil18

Sorry for the chopped and fried Su-17

Then, IL-10, IL-28, those birds would be on the profile.

Su-17-and there is a su-22-export option, where does the IL?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

su-17-and there is a su-22-export option

".... The developed design of the Su-17M4 and various weapons made it possible to interest the traditional consumers of Soviet weapons in the export modification, called the Su-22M4. Over the seven years of production, over 350 Su-22M4s were delivered to eleven countries. The Su-17s of various modifications and in the states that emerged in the post-Soviet space until the mid-1990s. "...

[V.ic]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Su-17-and there is a su-22-export option, where does the IL?

Dear, what is the difference between fighter aircraft and attack aircraft / bombers? In order for the "bird" to "peck grains" on the ground while in the air, it is probably necessary to "teach" it to do this? The first NORMAL front-line bomber = Su-24, the first NORMAL attack aircraft Su-25 / from the family of "dry" jet aircraft /. By the way, I watched the landing of the Su-25 regiment on the flight, I AMAZED by the practical organization of this operation / honestly! / Our "turntables" were based on a "piece of iron" next to the "concrete" for the Su-24. Have you seen with your own eyes in August / July? 1988 on a / e "Shprotava" SGV. Now, regarding your question: won't you dispute that a professional will do a job better than an amateur? If there are doubts, then let's "grind" this question into a "personal", so as not to clog the convolutions of the venerable visitors of this resource with emotions?

[quolta]

why the cut storage base of the Steppe Zabaykalsky Krai there to there from our regiment Su17 distilled with a reduction

[FID]

The latter was shot down in September 2015.

The last wife of the priest ... When the LAST plane is shot down, Syria WILL NOT have any planes. EXTREME plane shot down ...

[Black Colonel]

And to be honest, I am enraged by this ostentatious superstition. As if the Russian language is being bullied. The extreme can be left or right, or in a line in a line - left or right. And if we talk about the last shot down, it would be more correct to say "the last of the five shot down."

[FID]

Quote: Black Colonel

And frankly speaking, this ostentatious superstition infuriates me

I beg your pardon, but the "last" is also the "last path", etc. The latter means then nothing will happen ... Try to tell a submariner or sailor that he is leaving on the last voyage ... Better to be the EXTREME departures, flights, dives ...

[V.ic]

Last was shot down in September 2015.

An aviator would write "extreme"... Good disclaimer! God grant that there was last!

[triglav]

And what, at one time the car was cool!

[kugelblitz]

Normal aircraft for these conditions, and variable sweep helps to fly stably at low speeds. It carries decently gifts, the assortment is extensive, sights are certainly not ideal, but it will do.

[padded jacket]

Of course the plane is quite old and well-deserved and it is time for him to retire. I hope that after training SAA personnel, our VKS will give them the Su-24 Su-25 and Su-30 and S-300 air defense systems they will be needed by the Syrians not only to fight against terrorists, but also possibly to repel an attack by the aggressive regime of Tel Aviv.

[vv3]

SU-17M4 and its export version of the Su-22M4 is a newer aircraft than the SU-24M. M4 is fundamentally different from all modifications, including M3. It has a digital complex and allows navigational bombing with high quality without constant adjustments, like on the M3. Only short-sighted, or rather short-sighted, people could destroy these aircraft. From my point of view, this is a state crime. Once again, I’m talking about the SU-17M4. Its complex is sufficient for a simple attack aircraft and conceptually meets modern requirements. The same principles were implemented in it that on the modified SU-24M with Hephaestus. Learn the materiel before talking about the old ...

[bober1982]

You can’t compare the Su-17M4 with the Su-24m, it’s completely different machines, and they solved different tasks. At the expense of short-sighted people, and the more so an unknown state crime, you obviously got excited.

[vv3]

The Su-24 is used in Syria only because there are no such machines as the SU-17M4. This is not his theater of operations. The Su-24 was made like an attack aircraft, or rather molded. Only one shipboard inertial system MIS-24 with a full preparation time in the mode, double gyrocompassing "1 hour and 15 minutes is what it costs ... SU-24 made sense only as a carrier of nuclear weapons. I'm not getting excited Comrade, I assert ...

[bober1982]

The Su-24 was made as an attack aircraft, or rather sculpted.
What to comment here!

[xam0]

What a reliable and time-tested technique! And in capable hands, it just works wonders.

[vv3]

Continued .. This plane is very fond of pilots for a wide, comfortable cockpit, for ease of control and reliability. Su-24 for reliability and is not worth it. Two serious drawbacks: not very economical engines and resource limitations due to the rotary part of the wing - they wanted to eliminate on the next modification, but did not have time ... The complex of this aircraft is a model for a light aircraft in PMU. Conceptually.

[Michael67]

Quote: Irokez

Quote: Michael67

How they gave the request to Anglo-Saxes on an ancient flying technique.

Well, this is not such an ancient technique (if you compare with the MIG-21) Su 24 and Su-17 (Su-22 in export), consider the same age. Before the collapse of the USSR, we were in service with the Warsaw Pact countries.
This is not a clean bomber or attack aircraft - this is a fighter-bomber and will bomb and stand up for itself if necessary.
Having covered with a bombing canopy he goes to the target along the route.

I spoke about the Malvinas Islands, about the war between Argentina and the Anglicos. Their main aircraft was the Skyhawk fighter-attack aircraft.

[Denis Skiff]

they would have 4 pieces of new planes. well, there is su-25 or some other.