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Western media reported that began with the problems of Russia with ammunition in Syria

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The X-34 anti-ship missiles seen on the Su-35 Russian aircraft indicate that the Russian Federation Airborne Forces have problems with ammunition in Syria, Look opinion portal Strategy Page.




“The X-35 missile entered service in the 2003 year and is similar to the American Harpoon missile, but lighter (520 kg versus 728 kg) and has a smaller range (130 km compared to 224 km). X-35 can also be released from helicopters, airplanes or coastal batteries, ”the resource notes.

According to the newspaper, "X-35 has never been used in a combat situation." This "rocket can be used against ground targets, but it is too expensive compared to conventional guided bombs," he writes.

“There have never been many guided bombs in Russia, and there are too few pilots who would have experience using them,” says Strategy Page, noting that “the Russian group in Syria quickly exhausted its supply of guided munitions.”

“For a long time, Russia believed that such weapons could only be used in rare cases. The requirements of the operation in Syria were such that by the end of 2015, the munitions of recent production and old stocks were not enough. And in 2016, there are more and more reports that Russian combat aircraft use unguided bombs, which makes Russian military aircraft more vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire, and the meaning of using X-35 appeared, ”the portal concludes.

The newspaper reminds that almost from the very beginning of the operation, the Pentagon began to criticize the work of the Russian Federation of Spacecraft, arguing that Russian aircraft in Syria do not use high-precision ammunition, which leads to civilian casualties.

As Vladimir Putin stated earlier, they began to blame Russia even before the first combat aircraft took off.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Svyatogor
    Svyatogor 25 February 2016 08: 55
    78
    Another "fennec" was invented. Soon, in response to the flights of our strategic bombers, they will declare that all our "dryers" and "moments" have broken down.
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 February 2016 08: 57
      63
      They have big problems if journalists become military experts.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 25 February 2016 09: 05
        43
        Quote: cniza
        They have big problems if journalists become military experts.

        Yes and let. Let THEIR journalists tell them how weak we are ... Hitler also told ...
        "If you are weak, show your opponent that you are strong. If you have a lot of strength, show that you are weak. If you are far away, show that you are close. If you are close, show that you are far away."

        ... "War is a way of deception"
        Sun Tzu came up with everything about these journalism long ago. So let ....
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 25 February 2016 09: 06
          +2
          Western media reported on problems with ammunition in Russia
          1. comprochikos
            comprochikos 25 February 2016 09: 31
            57
            Fools do not understand that we are running a program in full swing for the disposal of obsolete ammunition. Why waste them in the landfill when you can bury hundreds of dushmans in one?
            1. Darkmor
              Darkmor 25 February 2016 09: 44
              70
              And these western anal sexItics does not arise in the head a simpler thought?
              Since the X-35 has never been used in combat, why not try it out?

              Given that we use the Syrian TVD as a testing ground for a variety of weapons, this is not surprising. And the abundance of new or untried weapons in battles there is a direct confirmation of this.

              They will launch this missile in an alternative mode of hitting targets at some house with jihadists, then analyze the picture from the drone, the deviation upon hit, and after the capture of the settlement, our "military advisers" will photograph this entire house (or what remains of it) from the inside.
              And in the end, all this will affect the new x-40, which, someday, will probably fly to a house or a boat in which there are those who wrote an article about the lack of ammunition from the Russian air force in Syria.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 25 February 2016 10: 45
                +6
                Quote: Darkmor
                Do these Western analysts have a more simple idea in their head?

                Mae bi. Someone went the wrong way and the X-35 just indicates a safe forwarding?
                Not the easiest thought
                1. Pravdarm
                  Pravdarm 25 February 2016 12: 21
                  -15 qualifying.
                  Or maybe ours went to a ceasefire due to the fact that they swept away the part of the ammunition reserved for the war ?! And already he can afford it! And it is not known what and how it will be further!
                  From this perspective, has anyone considered this issue?
                  1. HMR333
                    HMR333 25 February 2016 13: 26
                    15
                    Do not write nonsense if you are illiterate in this matter !!! the bombs used in Syria in Soviet times are so numerous in warehouses that your hair would stand on end when you see how many there are 10 Syria there! Moreover, these munitions have a suitable shelf life and it is much cheaper to use them in Syria than to dispose of them! and new ammunition arrives at the defense depots! Moreover, in Syria, flight crews undergo training in combat rather than training conditions for the same money as for exercises + aviation tests in combat conditions, this gives knowledge and skills + advertising for further sale at salons that’s affordable for what you say beats! Moreover, the destruction of any threat is more important than money, because if the threat goes into the category of realities, then you will lose even more money and lives and enough to exalt the money like manna from heaven!
                    1. Uncle
                      Uncle 25 February 2016 14: 50
                      -9
                      Quote: HMR333
                      Soviet-made bombs in Syria
                      You then read the article:
                      The X-35 missile entered service in 2003
                      Well, what is the Soviet Union in 2003?
                      1. co-creator
                        co-creator 25 February 2016 16: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle
                        Quote: HMR333
                        bombs used in Syria still Soviet-made You read the article:
                        The X-35 missile entered service in 2003. Well, which Soviet Union in 2003?

                        So the article is illiterate, which is what HMR333 pointed out. 80% of sorties are made by SU-24 and SU-25, and they throw KABA using SVP-24. Su-34s are operating and testing various modern missiles and ammunition. That is, even if these "smart" ones are in short supply, the KABs will last for another hundred years.
                      2. crazyrom
                        crazyrom 7 March 2016 07: 45
                        0
                        you just need to publish photos of bottomless and endless arsenals with these bombs accumulated since 70x.
                    2. PSih2097
                      PSih2097 25 February 2016 22: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: Uncle
                      Quote: HMR333
                      Soviet-made bombs in Syria
                      You then read the article:
                      The X-35 missile entered service in 2003
                      Well, what is the Soviet Union in 2003?

                      respected HMR333 indicated that the remaining ammunition for the Air Force in our mobile warehouses is not only in Syria, but also in Libya and Iraq, even Qatar with the UAE and the Saudis will be enough ...
                      You can’t tell - you yourself saw how many tank shells are still being stored, and aviation BP should be stored, as I understand the problem in logistics ...
                  2. Pravdarm
                    Pravdarm 25 February 2016 16: 12
                    -4
                    Quote: HMR333
                    Do not write nonsense if you are illiterate in this matter !!!
                    Fuck you poking, wise guy !!! And not just me!
          2. Poppy
            Poppy 25 February 2016 09: 58
            16
            and, by the way, ours quite rightly believe that the range of use of high-precision weapons is limited - the quantity of ammunition is more important in a war, which means simple bombs are needed
            moreover, our planes can also use high-precision mugs with high precision, which Westerners cannot
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 25 February 2016 14: 25
              +1
              Quote: Poppy
              that our planes are able to use high-precision simple land mines, What Westerners Can't

              Why don't Westerners know how? They know how, even ... At hospitals, weddings, water pumps, tractors ... ....
              1. Kondor13
                Kondor13 25 February 2016 20: 59
                +1
                I’ve taken it straight from the tongue, and the Americans either get to their hospitals or weddings with their highly accurate ones
          3. tso1973
            tso1973 25 February 2016 10: 21
            +6
            so the article somewhere was that in Syria, a kit is being tested that allows you to make a correctable bomb out of a regular bomb, and it’s also cheaper and bombs to remake the sea!
            1. Altona
              Altona 25 February 2016 11: 38
              +2
              Quote: tso1973
              so the article somewhere was that in Syria, a kit is being tested that allows you to make a correctable bomb out of a regular bomb, and it’s also cheaper and bombs to remake the sea!

              --------------------
              SVP-24 ... It allows you to optimally choose the moment of dropping a conventional bomb, taking into account all factors - aircraft speed, altitude, wind speed. There are no such "high-precision" ammunition there. The main mass is conventional free-falling bombs, but under the control of the SVP-24 system.
            2. shkil2010
              shkil2010 25 February 2016 11: 56
              +1
              SVP-24:
              http://warfiles.ru/show-105853-operaciya-v-sirii-osobennosti-nacionalnogo-podhod
              a.html
          4. seregatara1969
            seregatara1969 25 February 2016 10: 35
            0
            and check in battle for accuracy and shelf life
          5. avebersek
            avebersek 25 February 2016 22: 47
            0
            I agree. Plus, you need to check weapons, but what about combat? By and large, the wing-surface was in stock. And the dates since 2003 probably fit)
          6. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 26 February 2016 02: 42
            +1
            Quote: comprochikos
            Fools do not understand that we are running a program in full swing for the disposal of obsolete ammunition.

            They all understand. The US in Iraq had such a program when Saddam was hanged. Shooting is much cheaper and more useful than disposing of ...
        2. guzik007
          guzik007 25 February 2016 09: 31
          +3
          Well, if urka is ideal for you ....
        3. Thrall
          Thrall 25 February 2016 09: 57
          29
          By the same logic
          Russia uses the VSK in Syria, because it does not have Shock Armored Trains, there is no qualified personnel for them, and no attention is paid to the development of cavalry. laughing
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 25 February 2016 10: 18
            +4
            Quote: Thrall
            By the same logic
            Russia uses the VSK in Syria, because it does not have Shock Armored Trains, there is no qualified personnel for them, and no attention is paid to the development of cavalry. laughing



            It's time to go back to the carts
        4. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 25 February 2016 10: 10
          20
          They have big problems if journalists become military experts.
          Our experts are no better ....

          Pavel Felgenhauer, referred to in the press as the “Russian military observer and analyst” (by the way, a biologist by education): it turns out, the Caliber rockets, which Russia scared the whole world, DISPOSABLE.!
          1. comprochikos
            comprochikos 25 February 2016 10: 17
            11
            Disposable rubber product this horseradish analyst
            1. nov_tech.vrn
              nov_tech.vrn 25 February 2016 10: 42
              +2
              the rubber bomb keeps jumping ...
          2. bovig
            bovig 25 February 2016 13: 20
            +2
            Quote: Rostov Dad
            They have big problems if journalists become military experts.
            Our experts are no better ....

            Pavel Felgenhauer, referred to in the press as the “Russian military observer and analyst” (by the way, a biologist by education): it turns out, the Caliber rockets, which Russia scared the whole world, DISPOSABLE.!

            Bah! Who would have thought?)))) How so? This means that those missiles that were launched by the terrorists are no longer there?)))))) What wastefulness!)))
        5. Homo
          Homo 25 February 2016 11: 52
          0
          Have you come up with anything smarter? fool
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 25 February 2016 10: 22
        +2
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Let THEIR journalists tell them how weak we are ... Hitler also told ...

        You can fuck anything. But, if the state is calm about the nonsense of its media, then this looks like a conspiracy between the state and its media. In other words - propaganda at the state level.
      3. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 25 February 2016 11: 27
        +7
        “There have never been many guided bombs in Russia, and there are too few pilots who would have experience using them,” says the Strategy Page,

        Enough of all Western bullshit to retype. Our bombs are over, and the old planes and pilots do not know how to ......
        And now the facts.
        The Western coalition of more than 20 countries has been bombing there with "high precision" for several years. The result: an increase in several times the territories seized by terrorists, an increase in the number of groups, the questionable quality and accuracy of the strikes themselves, there are several dozen "blunders" confirmed by the Americans themselves, weddings, hospitals, residential areas.
        Now Russia.
        The operation takes less than a year. More than 40% of the territory controlled by them, which is about 200 settlements, was recaptured from the militants, the oil business from the territories controlled by the Aerospace Forces was practically blocked, a significant numerical reduction in the number of groups, the incredible accuracy of "inaccurate" ammunition and the pace of the Aerospace Forces operation from ONE base, which cannot a coalition with a dozen bases nearby. And finally, a ceasefire, by all parties, and at the same time the Aerospace Forces does not stop its work on the "recognized" groups.
        Here are the facts. And we need to pay less attention to Western "hacks". T.K. everyone has long understood the western media have lost their objectivity long ago, and now they have also lost their last mind ...
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 February 2016 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          And we need to pay less attention to Western "hacks".

          So the "scribblers" that is, propagandists are on different sides of the barricades. For example Oliver Stone and Dorenko
        2. weksha50
          weksha50 25 February 2016 11: 54
          +4
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          Now Russia.
          The operation lasts less than a year.
          .


          Sorry, I will try to increase the emphasis of your comment: "The operation is taking less than six months"... Since September 30, 2015 ... So the efficiency factor looks twice as steep ...
      4. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 25 February 2016 12: 07
        0
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Sun Tzu came up with everything about these journalism long ago.

        One would like to recall the famous quotation of Leonardo da Vinci on this occasion: when questions of morality and external threats are attracted to politics by the ears, Mao Dzedong will not do without fake quotes.
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    3. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 25 February 2016 09: 10
      15
      Quote: cniza
      They have big problems if journalists become military experts.

      "For some reason, Mr. Cook recently said that the ceasefire in Syria is a test for the Russian authorities. I would advise Mr. Cook to moderate his ardor and focus on activities related to the organization he represents. That is, the Pentagon. Although, sure to do this to him, unlike his predecessors without knowledge of military affairs, is not easy. So he seeks to compensate for his failures with loud mistakes... You have to be more modest. And more professional, "- said Konashenkov at a briefing by the Ministry of Defense on the agreement between Russia and the United States on a ceasefire in Syria.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20160225/1380054199.html
    4. Now we are free
      Now we are free 25 February 2016 09: 13
      11
      Let the generals from the Pentagon not worry if we ambush ISIS and the "Moderate" and decommissioned "Voevods" - "Satan" R-36M (in NATO classification), of course, not with nuclear warheads, but with conventional ones. Even simple kinetic energy (if you charge the Voevoda with blanks, it will be enough to turn a small town or a column of terrorists to dust ... Mass multiplied by the speed of falling from space works wonders ... laughing
      There are several advantages:
      1) The old man R-36M is finally the same-LIKE! (The missile deserved it, because for how many years our peace has guarded, it would be necessary to respect it too)
      2) The reaction of the "Probable partners" is not difficult to imagine, and their ambition if they put it in ... will certainly diminish (after they see that the Russians ... against terrorists with BALLISTIC missiles)
      3) Strategic Missile Forces will conduct field tests
      4) In the mines, a place will be made available for "Sarmat" (RS-28), a worthy successor to the affairs of his father, "Voevoda".
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 25 February 2016 09: 25
        +5
        The X-34 anti-ship missiles seen on Russian Su-35 aircraft indicate that the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria began to have problems with ammunition, leads the Look of the opinion of the Strategy Page portal.

        Less foreign observers and "tourists" should be allowed on our airfield in Syria!
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 25 February 2016 09: 32
        31
        1. In general, the mass times the squared speed. If anything.
        2. To beat the Voevoda in a non-nuclear performance is, to put it mildly, stupid, in terms of the result. The same can be achieved by flying 1 strategist with a pair of "Dads of all bombs". It will be orders of magnitude cheaper. And the result on earth will be many times higher.
        3. Voivode better to put satellites into orbit. If you really need to make room for new missiles.
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        2. Now we are free
          Now we are free 25 February 2016 09: 48
          +3
          Greetings Valery hi
          Quote: abrakadabre
          1. In general, the mass times the squared speed. If anything.
          I’m not going to deny the laws of physics. I’m talking about where it will fly directly to the head of the "Fighters for Freedom".
          Quote: abrakadabre
          2. To beat the Voevoda in a non-nuclear performance is, to put it mildly, stupid, in terms of the result. The same can be achieved by flying 1 strategist with a pair of "Dads of all bombs". It will be orders of magnitude cheaper. And the result on earth will be many times higher.

          So the article talked about the fact that the Russian Federation allegedly did not have enough aviation ammunition (why was my comment about the R-36M).
          Quote: abrakadabre
          3. Voivode better to put satellites into orbit. If you really need to make room for new missiles.

          I know and agree with this, but this does not deny the fact that the old man can be used in combat performance, + there are not so many satellites, unfortunately, but the Voevoda's service life is already coming to an end (it is possible, of course, to extend the operation, but still. ..).
      3. Wedmak
        Wedmak 25 February 2016 10: 21
        +3
        I'm afraid I will disappoint you. A small town is not enough to demolish. Yes, the funnel will be big, but not so much.
        The photo is not secret, the FSB does not need to be called.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 25 February 2016 13: 07
          0
          Quote: Wedmak
          Yes, the funnel will be big, but not so much.
          The photo is not secret, the FSB does not need to be called.

          Kura?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 25 February 2016 14: 19
            +1
            Kura?

            It seems so. The old photo, it seems this is from the War Voivode, although whoever disassembles them there ...
      4. silver_roman
        silver_roman 25 February 2016 11: 39
        +1
        it doesn’t make much sense to play voivode, because there the deviation from the target can be 100 meters.
        Kinetic shock will not be enough strength. unless the means of early warning of a missile attack by the Yankees become obsolete. laughing
        that and the mines seem to be not completely unified, because now the test launches of the Sarmat have been postponed due to the fact that the mines are not ready.
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    6. vlad66
      vlad66 25 February 2016 09: 21
      11
      Quote: cniza
      They have big problems if journalists become military experts.

      They won’t wait, they really have a problem, a problem with the brains.
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 25 February 2016 09: 35
        +2
        Quote: vlad66
        Quote: cniza
        They have big problems if journalists become military experts.

        They won’t wait, they really have a problem, a problem with the brains.


        And problems will begin with the ships ... if they jerk !!! They can’t even apply the correct interpretation to the situation.
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  3. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 25 February 2016 09: 00
    17
    the Russian aerospace forces in Syria began to have problems with ammunition, leads the view of the opinion of the portal Strategy Page.
    ..well, take us with your bare hands ..!
  4. Mahmut
    Mahmut 25 February 2016 09: 03
    +8
    That's right, this rocket has never been tested in combat before. So it's time to try and train their pilots. While there are real goals.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 25 February 2016 09: 19
      +3
      Quote: Mahmut
      That's right, this rocket has never been tested in combat before

      So that's the same. In my opinion, Turkish and other surface ships of the states unfriendly to Russia have problems. It doesn't occur to these "experts" from the Strategic Page (strategists, damn it) that the X-35 will be used for its intended purpose? Su-34s may well patrol the coastal waters of Syria.
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 25 February 2016 09: 36
      23
      Quote: Mahmut
      While there are real goals.
      At a press briefing by the Russian Defense Ministry on the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria on February 11, 2016 in Moscow, a video flashed on a wall screen showing a Su-34 front-line bomber operating from the Syrian airfield Khmeimim with suspended Kh-35U anti-ship missiles. Anti-ship missiles are not a type of weapon that is hung up "just in case." These are not air-to-air missiles. A logical question arises - why?
      One of the answers, knowing that the photo and info will get into the media, is to show the "Turkish partners" that our "armored train" is no longer on the side track.
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 25 February 2016 09: 55
        11
        In 2011 at the MAKS-2011 was presented the anti-ship missile X-35UE. The designers increased the missile range by 2 times (up to 260 km), the target capture range was increased 2 times to 50 km. RCC received a guidance system with IP, satellite navigation and active-passive radar. This has improved the basic performance of the rocket, its security and applicability. The overall characteristics remained unchanged, which opens up good prospects for the Bal-E and Uran-E complexes.
        Maybe they decided to "break in" in combat?
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 25 February 2016 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: kapitan92
        A logical question arises - why?

        I heard the opinion that it’s possible against oil transportation barges that go along the river towards Turkey.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 25 February 2016 13: 11
          0
          Why bother spending such a river barge. What is simple enough.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 25 February 2016 13: 20
            0
            Again I heard that these x-35s are already with our minced meat, i.e. with replaced components in our.
            So they test in the realities of the database.
            Better than firing at the landfills.
  5. Skif83
    Skif83 25 February 2016 09: 14
    +9
    Yes, God forbid, let them think so! Let them underestimate.
    If only we do not rest on our laurels and do not overestimate ourselves. Because not everything is all right in our "kingdom". Payments slow down again, and letekha, as they sang to us, does not get a shit about 50 tyrs, not all of the starleys, etc. And the main thing in the army, as you know, is a person, and not a weapon in itself.
    Again, having a strong army requires a strong economy. And a strong economy and "twitter-government" are INCOMPATIBLE, apparently ...
    1. Kondor13
      Kondor13 25 February 2016 21: 09
      0
      I won’t tell you over the years, but they get at least 50 starlings, at least in CVO
  6. vkl-47
    vkl-47 25 February 2016 09: 16
    +4
    another run of these bombs like a go for a bath
  7. siberalt
    siberalt 25 February 2016 09: 21
    20
    The conclusion is sucked out of the finger. I read the article and burst out laughing laughing If someone bathes in champagne, this does not mean that he has run out of water.
  8. Giant thought
    Giant thought 25 February 2016 09: 23
    +3
    You would think that these bastards were in our arms depots. They are doing everything to defile our VKS.
  9. Jan Krumins
    Jan Krumins 25 February 2016 09: 29
    0
    Smelly Western media coming from shit ....
  10. vic58
    vic58 25 February 2016 09: 30
    0
    Come on, bearded "victims of circumstances" (as the Yankees call corrupt women) is not warmer from this))) As they say in the East, "the dog barks, the caravan goes ..." Let such a testing ground be tested hi
  11. GSH-18
    GSH-18 25 February 2016 09: 35
    +1
    Western media reported that began with the problems of Russia with ammunition in Syria

    So we must all believe. After all, everyone knows about the "invincibility" of these fabulous Western media! lol
  12. GSH-18
    GSH-18 25 February 2016 09: 43
    0
    The newspaper reminds that almost from the very beginning of the operation, the Pentagon began to criticize the work of the Russian Federation of Spacecraft, arguing that Russian aircraft in Syria do not use high-precision ammunition, which leads to civilian casualties.

    The usual western trijnezh. Russian stupid pilots fly on rusty planes and throw unguided bombs at hospitals shops and civilians fool laughing
  13. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 25 February 2016 09: 45
    +1
    Well, about the lack of a power supply, this is clearly not a fake ... remember a few months ago it was reported that defense enterprises switched to a three-shift ... And also during the bombing of Libya, I remember we were kidding when we reported that the French and British air forces had the same problems .... and collected bombs-rockets at all European bases .....
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 25 February 2016 10: 03
      +1
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      let's recall how several months ago it was reported that defense enterprises switched to a three-shift

      hi moved on several shifts in 2014 when the events began on Urkain.
      It was then that a significant "leap" took place, but even before that, everything went by the "forced" method in production, but in an even working regime.
  14. avt
    avt 25 February 2016 09: 49
    0
    Quote: Svyatogor
    They came up with another "fennec".

    Well, something like that - yes. It’s easier to give out
    The X-34 anti-ship missiles seen on Russian Su-35 aircraft indicate that the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria began to have problems with ammunition.
    What can I write about the readiness of the aerospace forces for round-robin defense from the sea, too, quite modernly, technologically, and not with free-falling bombs. That's what they write so as not to make Erdogan feel terrible in pants. Again they can’t rank 5 dollars as XNUMXth generation aircraft .... What a grief! Bitter to me .... Bitter! laughing
  15. Vend
    Vend 25 February 2016 09: 55
    0
    Ended, completely over laughing
  16. vezunchik
    vezunchik 25 February 2016 09: 56
    0
    Why is there a lot of anti-Russian information on the site ??
  17. sined0707
    sined0707 25 February 2016 09: 58
    0
    These are all their "Wishlist", it's great that our "partners" have already started reading mantras. As in the joke:
    - I do not want to poop,
    - I do not want to poop,
    - I do not want to poop,
    - ................
    - I didn’t stumble,
    - I didn’t stumble,

    Fuck them Volobuev, all over his face.
  18. Blondy
    Blondy 25 February 2016 10: 09
    +1
    Russia cannot do anything, it doesn’t have anything, and why did the almighty states, after declaring a ceasefire, find themselves in the position of a spectator from the VIP box: they can watch, they can vote too, but they don’t plan to do anything like that.
  19. YARUSSIAN39
    YARUSSIAN39 25 February 2016 11: 29
    0
    But they decided to skip the recent news that the Americans ran out of "smart bombs", and they again ask for money for new missiles, because the old ones are out, but there are no new ones
  20. silver_roman
    silver_roman 25 February 2016 11: 36
    +3
    like yeah, but you know what the thing is: they artificially undermine our authority. it is clear that for many it is obvious that this is a blatant lie, but sometimes such a lie, together with another nonsense, allows the Saxons to win over all new puppets to their side.
    I will say one thing: you can not leave unanswered any of their objections.
    ps the funny thing is that with the Allied coalition in Libya, ammunition began to run out after the first week of the database, we have been in Syria for almost half a year now.
  21. rpek32
    rpek32 25 February 2016 11: 47
    0
    oh god no. What to do now laughing
  • tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 25 February 2016 08: 55
    +7
    Yes, we somehow and without Western media will figure out what is enough for us and what is not!
  • Meckajiuhe
    Meckajiuhe 25 February 2016 08: 55
    14
    Morons .. Saw an anti-ship missile on a suspension - a conclusion, ran out of cheap ones)) Make sure that no bucket with bolts floats where they don’t ask ...
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 25 February 2016 08: 55
    +2
    Fortune telling is everything.
    1. 341712
      341712 25 February 2016 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: chikenous59
      chikenous59 (3) Today, 08: 55 New
      Fortune telling is everything.


      Yes Nah .... Judo is))))
      1. chikenous59
        chikenous59 25 February 2016 09: 44
        +1
        Quote: 341712
        Yes Nah .... Judo is))))

        I do not understand jokes)
  • VP
    VP 25 February 2016 08: 56
    17
    And the calibers were firing, presumably because the FAB-500 ended.
    And the strategists bombed because there is no fuel on the SU-24
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 25 February 2016 09: 22
      +3
      Quote: VP
      And the strategists bombed because there is no fuel on the SU-24

      I’ll say more: X-35s are used as free-falling bombs, according to Putin’s personal order.
  • axel320
    axel320 25 February 2016 08: 56
    -2
    We are waiting for a refutation ...
    1. VP
      VP 25 February 2016 08: 57
      +5
      Why do you need it?
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 25 February 2016 08: 56
    +4
    The performance of the air group on the goals of the Daesh speaks for itself ...
    Once again, we are convinced ... the topic is not important ... just to talk about how everything is wrong with us ... otherwise, apparently for myself and our American / European "success" is completely ashamed ...
  • cniza
    cniza 25 February 2016 08: 56
    +3
    As Vladimir Putin stated earlier, they began to blame Russia even before the first combat aircraft took off.


    Whine what you want, and the barmalei will be destroyed.
  • Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 25 February 2016 08: 57
    +1
    Come on! Has the ammunition from Transnistria been "disposed of already?"
  • Hubun
    Hubun 25 February 2016 08: 57
    +2
    It was not used in a combat situation, and they are using it, which is not clear. Gaining experience to the fullest.
  • Smoked
    Smoked 25 February 2016 08: 59
    0
    Well, Western experts know better of course.
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 25 February 2016 08: 59
    +2
    приводит Glance opinion portal Strategy Page

    Glance ... Opinion Strategy Page ... And then you can not read.
    1. sl22277
      sl22277 25 February 2016 09: 41
      0
      Likewise. I do not remember from them truthful and specific, in essence, information. Strategy Page is a deceitful, lame "creature". The word "journalist" itself is unacceptable to them, as windbags and talkers! (Verbal fornication. Or delirium).
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 February 2016 09: 00
    +1
    What powerful experts! Noticing such a missile, they instantly calculated that the VKS had run out of mines. Don’t worry, they will give you a ride, even if they’re over.
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 25 February 2016 09: 00
    0
    Judging by the examination of the couches, there would have been more such experts, I would have seen a rocket under the plane similar to an American harpoon, and now there’s a diagnosis with all the ensuing consequences, but I'm sorry, this is profanity and, if you want, propaganda, generally believe Western experts - do not respect yourself.
  • Gray brother
    Gray brother 25 February 2016 09: 01
    +1
    X-34 anti-ship missiles seen on Russian Su-35 aircraft indicate

    that Russia has anti-ship missiles and nothing more. Journalists cannot know for what purpose this or that weapon is suspended.
    Maybe planes patrol over the sea - Turkish pelvis scare.
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 25 February 2016 09: 01
    0
    “There have never been many guided bombs in Russia, and there are too few pilots who would have experience using them,” says Strategy Page

    Now it is. Combat experience in exercises is not always possible to obtain, such an opportunity cannot be missed.
  • salad
    salad 25 February 2016 09: 03
    +1
    Words of Lavrov !!!!! and NATA type resets guided ammunition ??
  • Aristide
    Aristide 25 February 2016 09: 05
    +1
    Why can new weapons be tested at the training grounds, but not in hostilities! For the X-35 missiles is just such a case. And the Western media are visionaries, just to tell the truth!
  • kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 25 February 2016 09: 05
    +2
    Most likely a demonstration of a "breech for perdogan" and other overly zealous "partners". Moreover, they are already successfully hammering down slippers with cast iron. wassat
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 25 February 2016 09: 06
    +2
    They’re smashing nonsense, well, stupid.
  • Papapg
    Papapg 25 February 2016 09: 06
    +3
    Quote: VP
    And the calibers were firing, presumably because the FAB-500 ended.
    And the strategists bombed because there is no fuel on the SU-24

    How stupid Westerners can’t understand in any way, and where are we going to put old samples for bandits and outdated samples. By the way, our special forces are training with hunting rifles, and now imagine if he takes an assault rifle! Yes, and our swimmers swim in pools without water. laughing
    1. cap
      cap 25 February 2016 10: 14
      0
      Quote: Papapg
      Quote: VP
      And the calibers were firing, presumably because the FAB-500 ended.
      And the strategists bombed because there is no fuel on the SU-24

      How stupid Westerners can’t understand in any way, and where are we going to put old samples for bandits and outdated samples. By the way, our special forces are training with hunting rifles, and now imagine if he takes an assault rifle! Yes, and our swimmers swim in pools without water. laughing


      No wonder. Fear has big eyes.
      It is good that during the "construction battalion" there was no Internet.
      The whole world would know: "Russian soldiers of the Stroybat special forces are ready to catch the enemy with their bare hands and bury them alive !!" laughing
      Something like that probably.
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 25 February 2016 14: 35
      0
      Quote: Papapg
      Yes, and our swimmers swim in pools without water.


      They also manage to dive there.laughing Olympic champion Dmitry Soutin was asked at the Comedy Club: "Have you dived from a 10-meter platform past the pool at least once?" The answer is obvious. And the next question - then why have our players already tapped all the bars? He laughed heartily.
  • alex-cn
    alex-cn 25 February 2016 09: 06
    +1
    write off obsolete in Syria is more effective than undermining at the landfill.
  • Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 25 February 2016 09: 06
    +2
    Well, notions so sucked from a finger! )))
    That's what I can say about their "nonsense"?!?
    - How grandfather?
    - Survived.
    - And what happened to him - a heart attack, a stroke?
    “No, he survived from the mind.”
  • Mera joota
    Mera joota 25 February 2016 09: 06
    +2
    And where did they notice that? Where is the photo? In the illustration, I somehow did not notice the X-35 ...
    And why did the AGM-84 become 700 kg? Harpoon and X-35 do not differ much in mass, of course, without a booster.
  • VeryBravePiggy
    VeryBravePiggy 25 February 2016 09: 09
    11
    And among the pilots of the VKS there is not a single Negro and Latinos. Racism! The Russians got rid of all their Negro pilots!
    What a bomb! A sensational headline for both newspapers and television.

    But seriously, poor people have written out. They don't know how else to kick Russia. We have to suck the "news" from the finger. Or from something else.
  • Achilles
    Achilles 25 February 2016 09: 09
    +8
    Western media are apparently stupid, they will not understand that the Russian Aerospace Forces has a Specialized Computing Subsystem (SVP-24) analyzes data on the position of the aircraft and the target, atmospheric pressure, wind speed and direction, dozens of other parameters and gives the optimal point of dropping unguided bombs into automatic mode, the technology works so well that from a height of six kilometers, ammunition deviates from targets by four meters, and all the talk about "stupid" bombs flying in the wrong direction is just nonsense
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 25 February 2016 09: 30
      +1
      Quote: Achilles
      and gives the optimal point of unguided bombs in automatic mode, the technology works so well that from a height of six kilometers the ammunition deviates from the targets by four meters

      And these bombs in our warehouses - like a fool shag. It’s a shame for the Americans that Hephaestus didn’t think of such a system themselves, that’s all nonsense!
  • Hooks
    Hooks 25 February 2016 09: 11
    +2
    Yes, there isn’t enough ammunition, and there’sn’t enough ammunition for such unworthy Western media.
  • Sanych
    Sanych 25 February 2016 09: 12
    +2
    We have enough ammunition for everyone, do not worry ... bully
  • triglav
    triglav 25 February 2016 09: 12
    +2
    And we will not pay attention to the blathering of the Western media. Let them stink - we have gas masks.
  • Flinky
    Flinky 25 February 2016 09: 19
    +2
    Sew, Sew. We love idiots.
  • kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 25 February 2016 09: 21
    0
    due to the successful operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria to this day, the Yankees and their slabbers no longer know where to get the substances for the fan. it was terrified by a ground operation and a second Afghanistan, then it was accused of destroying civilians, then our ammunition is old and stupid, and now they are over ... like V.S. Vysotsky’s: If only I could slope with ivy, I’m glad , If only something else ... Everything is not as it should!
  • valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 25 February 2016 09: 24
    +1
    In a combat situation, you have to try everything. This is not a training ground with targets, but real goals. So save on target environment.
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 25 February 2016 09: 26
    +2
    Fools did not think that one date (2003 year) explains everything, because the life of certain batches of missiles has come to an end, and the destruction / processing is much more expensive than putting them into action ...
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 25 February 2016 09: 35
      +1
      came to an end, and destruction / recycling is much more expensive than putting them into action ...
      --------------------------
      They take an example from our supermarkets, there, too, as the products begin to fade, then they immediately let them go to salads.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 25 February 2016 09: 29
    +1
    Thanks in the USSR, they drove freely falling bombs to the mountain, they can be bombed for about 5 years, just modern plants will have time to make modern missiles
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 25 February 2016 09: 30
    +1
    Another nonsense ... Any ammunition needs to be fine-tuned and tested for new systems .. most likely the Russians are experiencing new guidance and adjustment systems ...
  • Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 25 February 2016 09: 30
    +3
    It is not clear why the minuses were stuck to the article, although the respected author raised the mood in the morning. As for the missile, I don't know how effective it is in destroying a convoy with oil tankers or a jeep with a machine gun, I think it's enough, but it costs a lot, although from the point of view of the practice of combat use - why not. And for the demonstration of the "brilliant Osmanliss" to the fleet, it will also be used as a "information leak". About ammunition. In Afghanistan, they somehow hung bombs from almost 1944 on the Dryers. And nothing, worked fine. Bombs do not matter: a fascist, a dushman or a "moderate" thug.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 25 February 2016 10: 44
      0
      in Afghanistan, in some cases, high-explosive bombs of model 1946 were used. The airbombs of this particular model (1946) - the FAB-250TS and FAB-500TS were thick-walled, and were very effective at destroying targets in the mountains (rock shelters)
  • 0255
    0255 25 February 2016 09: 32
    +2
    Well, so it is necessary to check the X-35 in a combat situation, at least on the Ishilovites. It’s too early to check on NATO ships laughing
  • nord62
    nord62 25 February 2016 09: 39
    +3
    That’s the idiots! Yes, this good - NATO is enough for everything, it will remain! laughing
    And according to ISIS, it’s good to waste too much recycling. Although what kind of recycling is there - everything falls into the goal, and accordingly, bearded columns walk towards Allah! bully
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 25 February 2016 09: 41
    +2
    It turns out that it’s easy to understand the thoughts of Western so-called analysts, strategists and others. At the moment, they dream that in Russia the ammunition will end. This is not harmful. You can dream. wink
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 25 February 2016 09: 49
    +1
    Quote: salat
    and NATA type resets guided ammunition ??


    Yes sir! With a density of 100 bombs per hectare, at least one of which will be highly accurate.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 25 February 2016 09: 52
    +1
    Bullshit is all that. Voentorg works without failures. And bearded, in which case, we unregulated zafigachim.
  • cap
    cap 25 February 2016 09: 54
    +1
    I waited a long time for getting to the ammunition. Finally I waited.

    “There have never been many guided bombs in Russia, and there are too few pilots who would have experience using them,” says Strategy Page, noting that “the Russian group in Syria quickly exhausted its supply of guided munitions.”

    “For a long time, Russia believed that such weapons could only be used on rare occasions. The requirements of the operation in Syria were such that by the end of 2015, ammunition of recent production and old stocks were insufficient. And in 2016, there are more and more reports that Russian combat aircraft are using unguided bombs, which makes Russian military aircraft more vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire, and it makes sense to use the X-35, "the portal concludes."

    It turns out that our pearls are too small, and the garnets are not of that system. Well, let’s see.
    bsp
  • Warm Padded Jacket
    Warm Padded Jacket 25 February 2016 09: 54
    +1
    What are those who want to check a lot of ammunition or a little?))
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 February 2016 09: 55
    +2
    The intensity of the bombing is high.
    Precise ammunition - bombs and missiles - expensive and their reproduction
    slow.
    For example, the USA in Iraq and Israel in Lebanon - the stock runs out
    for a couple of months.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 25 February 2016 10: 53
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Precise ammunition - bombs and missiles - expensive and their reproduction

      The cost of X -35 for 2010 is about 15 million rubles. The thing is expensive, but effective!
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 25 February 2016 09: 55
    0
    How bad are you "experts" know our mysterious, Kulibin soul? We can also drop false bombs with the effect of a "leaky barrel", which will cause mass defecation and abandonment of positions. Then, when the shaitans get used to it, the real ones will fly in pursuit!
  • Free Cossack
    Free Cossack 25 February 2016 09: 55
    +1
    ANAL-lytics again x..n wrote. Themselves say, "X-35 has never been used in a combat situation," well, why be surprised, you need to experience it sometime. And this of course means that we are out of ammunition, kerosene and fly. wassat
  • Concept1
    Concept1 25 February 2016 10: 00
    +1
    X-35 is an aspen stake in the ass of Erdogan! or to the side of his frigate ...)
  • Samoyed
    Samoyed 25 February 2016 10: 00
    +1
    Antiship showed: a good warning for the Turkish fleet. Cover the possible paths of provocation
  • BOB044
    BOB044 25 February 2016 10: 03
    +1
    Listen to them so in vain we live. Everything must be handed over to them and walking in bast shoes and poking around in piles of garbage. I can only tell them one thing, gentlemen from the West to suck you.
  • Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 25 February 2016 10: 04
    +1
    Western media laughing they don’t know exactly what problems we have with ammunition.
    1. avebersek
      avebersek 25 February 2016 22: 54
      +1
      Well, I have never been in a subject) But, a simple mathematical calculation shows that for the number of sorties since the beginning of the operation of the Aerospace Forces of the ammunition used by 2-3 tankers (and this is with a margin). What else were you dragging? and the schedule through the Bosphorus can be viewed in the internet, one can only guess. I want to think that Russia is there for a long time, and the General Staff has calculated all the options and prepared the necessary "surprises". All with the past!