Russia is "pregnant" with Stalin

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Russia is "pregnant" with Stalin In the last decade there has been a real renaissance of Stalinism. At the beginning of 1990, few would have thought that this could happen against the backdrop of the triumph of the ideas of liberalism and the "European choice" of the Russian Federation.

In bookstores you can find a lot of works that evaluate the activities of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin from the positive side, debunk the most diverse “black myths” created about him and his era. Here and a series of books by A. B. Martirosyan "200 myths about Stalin", and very fundamental works of Yuri Mukhin ("The murder of Stalin and Beria", "What is Stalin killed for?", Etc.), the work of V. Karpov "Generalissimo" and many others. others. In recent years, the image of Stalin is increasingly seen on posters, public and private transport, etc. A real shock for many people who believed that Russia was already thoroughly desovetizirovana and detalinizirovana, were the results of the project "Name of Russia", when Stalin almost won a victory. And this is after the period of “perestroika” and 90's, when he was declared a real “bloody monster”, guilty of almost all the troubles of Russia and its peoples.

Stalin, Stalinism firmly entered people's memory, and now not only older people, but also young people are positively thinking about him. For them, the era of Stalin is the time of great victories, achievements, the period of the highest power of the USSR-Russia in the world. And the time of Gorbachev and Yeltsin was the epoch of the destruction of a great power, which maintained stability on the planet, the time of the destruction of almost all the great achievements of the Soviet Union.

“Perestroika” and “reformers” needed to convince the population that the Soviet period, and especially Stalin's time, was “lost” for Russia and its people. They say there is nothing to regret about him, there were only repressions, terror, “cleansing”, millions of vain victims, an exorbitantly high price for the victory in the Great Patriotic War, an “iron curtain”, a shortage of sausage, etc. In their opinion, it was Stalin who was to blame that Russia was separated from the "world community", advanced centers of culture.

Initially, the majority of the population took these “exposures” with interest. But soon works began to appear that, on the basis of facts, figures, proved that anti-Stalinist accusations were often nothing more than bad fiction or fulfillment of a certain social order. Thus, during the years of the “purges” of 1937-1938, for which Stalin was especially hated, the “fifth column” was eliminated; the Germans themselves actually recognized this fact later. The “Trotskyists”, who were destroyed or camped, were the legacy of the dim era of the revolution and civil war period, and they and their owners were not happy about the restoration of the power of Russia-USSR. There is no doubt that Tukhachevsky, Bukharin, Zinoviev, Yagoda-Yehuda and other similar "comrades" were enemies of the USSR and its people.

It was under Stalin that the country was raised from the ruins, prepared for a terrible war of survival, won it and was able to recover so quickly, accelerating for a dash into the future, in the 21 century, that the whole world was simply shocked. The Stalinist system won the most effective system of the West - the dark genius of the Third Reich. Under him, the foundations were laid for the best education system in the world. People believed in a bright future, about the time when there would be no crime (just remember the images of the film “The Meeting Place cannot be changed”, read the Weiner Brothers novel “The Age of Mercy”) and other public vices.

In 1990, the country experienced such a pogrom, which could not be arranged by the hordes of Hitler. Without war, agriculture and industry were destroyed, millions of people died. These facts unwittingly began to lead people to the idea that in Stalin's “damned era” life was better. The country then quickly grew stronger, its scientific, educational, industrial and military potential grew at an unprecedented rate.

Stalin's personality provoked respect in people - he really worked like a “slave in galleys,” according to 14-16 hours a day, he knew how to choose associates for top government posts, did not think about honors, bank accounts, lived modestly.

And everyone saw the result of his activities as a “leader”. Hundreds, thousands of schools and resorts, libraries, museums, houses of creativity, stadiums, factories, power stations, roads were built and opened. He returned a number of territories that our empire lost during the collapse of the Russian empire. And "perestroika" gave without a fight, war "the mother of Russian cities" - Kiev, "the city of Russian glory" - Sevastopol, White Russia. For a single moment, in terms of stories, The “democratizers” tore the great power into specific khanates and princedoms, which the Russian princes, kings, generals, simple warriors, and laborers built for centuries. With one stroke of the pen 8 December 1991, the “glorious sons of the Fatherland” - Boris Yeltsin and Gennady Burbulis (RSFSR), Stanislav Shushkevich and Vyacheslav Kebich (Byelorussian SSR), Leonid Kravchuk and Witold Fokin (Ukrainian SSR) - destroyed a shield and Rahman fighter, he was destroyed by a number of pellies, hepherdians, hepherd watered with the blood of our ancestors. Only in the Great Patriotic War, our civilization lost 27 millions of sons and daughters. Russia was rejected territorially almost in the 17 century.

The heyday of "democracy" according to the Western model led to the collapse of science and education, the degradation of culture and its replacement by surrogates for world pop culture, a difficult situation in medicine. The army of the Russian Federation with great difficulty was able to put out the flames of the Chechen war, although not long ago the Soviet Army was the most powerful force on the planet.

As a result, it was liberals, democrats, desovetizers who were credited with reviving Stalin. They did everything themselves so that the Russian people would not forget it. And even more than that, by their monstrous theft, rampant lawlessness and corruption, "optimization" of basic social systems, the democrats by constant lies have achieved that Russia, the Russian people, figuratively speaking, are now "pregnant with Stalin." For many ordinary citizens, such a person at the head of Russia would have gotten rid of the nightmare of the last 20 years, when the great civilization robbed by the “reformers” found itself on the backyards of the world (when in a country like Qatar, its ambassador was simply beaten) war and dismemberment. That is why, if Vladimir Putin begins to pursue a policy of nationalizing the country's most important industries, restoring the model of a socialist state, clearing the most odious individuals during the period of the domination of liberals, oligarchy, he will meet with massive popular support.
Conversation with Stalin



Scourge of god.

The question of Stalin is not as simple as many think. The author and director is Anna Moskvina. The film tells about the great man of the twentieth century I.V. Stalin, about his struggle with the world behind the scenes: with her agents in Russia and with the external aggressor - fascist Germany (1939-1945 years).

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  1. wk
    +38
    9 December 2011 06: 47
    "Mountains of garbage will be thrown on my grave, but the wind of history will sweep them mercilessly."
    I. In Stalin.
    Sorry for the fact that I do not remember exactly, but close to the text.
    1. +38
      9 December 2011 07: 01
      The Testament of Stalin

      "After my death, a lot of rubbish will be placed on my grave, but the time will come and sweep it away. I have never been a real revolutionary, my whole life is an ongoing struggle against Zionism, the goal of which is to establish a new world order under the rule of the Jewish bourgeoisie ... To achieve this, they need to destroy the USSR Russia, destroy the Faith, turn the Russian sovereign people into Rootless cosmopolitans.

      Only the Empire can oppose their plans. If it doesn’t exist, Russia will perish, the World will perish. Stop utopias. It’s impossible to invent anything better than a monarchy, which means it’s not necessary. I always worshiped the genius and grandeur of the Russian tsars. We cannot go anywhere from autocracy. But the dictator should be replaced by an autocrat. When the time comes.

      The only place on earth where we can be together is Russia. Reforms are inevitable, but in due time. And these should be reforms - organic, evolutionary, based on traditions, with a gradual restoration of Orthodox self-consciousness. They are based on realism and common sense. Very soon, wars for territories will be replaced by "Cold" wars - for Resources and Energy. You need to be prepared for this. Mastering new types of energy should be a priority for our scientists. Their success is a guarantee of our independence in the future. An army can be strong only when it enjoys the exceptional care and love of the people and government. This is the greatest moral strength of the army, the guarantee of its invincibility. And the army must be loved and cherished!

      I'm lonely. Russia is a colossal country, and around not a single decent person the Old Generation is completely infected with Zionism, all our hope for youth. The time has come to announce a new crusade against the international, and only the new Russian Order will be able to head it, the creation of which must be started immediately. Remember: the world does not need a strong Russia, no one will help us, you can only rely on your own strengths

      I think that the order should be given a name - the Order of Alexander Nevsky with the motto: God is not in power, but in Truth

      About the tasks of the Russian Order
      The main and determining this unification of all forces in the struggle is for Great Russia
      - Education of the management elite.
      - Propaganda of patriotism, the Russian national idea, the truth of history, the defense of Orthodoxy
      - Preparation of conditions for the restoration of the Russian Empire and autocracy
      - The fight against Masonic and Zionist influence in Russia, - its extermination
      - The dominant role of the Russian people - foreigners and Gentiles must know their place
      - Nomination of your Tsar from the Russian Order - when the time comes

      What should be a member of the Russian Order? Loyal to the Russian idea, to love the truth, to believe in success, courageous, responsible, obligatory, modest, sober and wise do not need to know much, you need to understand a lot of disciplined, able to keep a secret. Communist Party members are not capable of this. This party has ceased to be Russian. Attitude to the Russian Order should be conspiratorial, until the time comes when it is time to open up in the face of world evil
      I did what I could, I hope you do more and better
      Be worthy of the memory of our great ancestors

      January-February 1953. Joseph Stalin.
      1. mar.tira
        -11
        9 December 2011 08: 44
        Quote: GRIGORIY1957
        nomination from the environment of the Russian Order of his king - when the time comes

        Unfortunately, the king was imposed on us, so far he is not ours!
      2. +1
        9 December 2011 09: 47
        Is this what Stalin really wrote?
        1. -2
          9 December 2011 10: 15
          where from ... where would he read this letter ...
          1. 0
            16 March 2012 04: 15
            PLANS OF THE LEO OF TROTSKY (BRONSTEIN)

            "We must turn Russia into a desert inhabited by white blacks, whom we will give such a tyranny that the most terrible despots of the East never dreamed of.
            The only difference is that this tyranny will not be on the right, but on the left, and not white, but red, for we will shed such streams of blood that all human losses of capitalist wars shudder and pale. The largest bankers from across the ocean will work in close contact with us. If we win the revolution, crush Russia, then on the funeral debris it will strengthen the power of Zionism and become such a force in front of which the whole world will fall to its knees. We will show what real power is.
            Leon Trotsky (Bronstein)
      3. Gur
        -1
        9 December 2011 10: 32
        What the hell?? You do not give out your ideas for Stalin ..
      4. Anatoly
        +12
        9 December 2011 11: 13
        We must look in the internet. If these are really the words of Stalin, then this is almost a guide to action. I would support!
      5. Tyumen
        -2
        9 December 2011 14: 38
        Quote: GRIGORIY1957
        The predominant role of the Russian people - foreigners and Gentiles must know their place


        Gregory, did you write this testament at DPNI?
      6. ballian
        0
        9 December 2011 18: 56
        It's funny how this garbage scored 25 points. , and no one even bothered to see where it came from. Stalin neither said nor wrote anything of this.
      7. ballian
        +2
        9 December 2011 19: 03
        It's funny how this "Testament of Stalin" composed by the Nazis scored 25 points. , and no one even bothered to look - where is it from? :))))
        Stalin neither said nor wrote anything of this.
        1. +8
          11 December 2011 10: 42
          Stalin took Russia with a plow, and left with atomic weapons.
          1. +3
            15 December 2011 04: 33
            Quote: garun35
            Stalin took Russia with a plow, and left with atomic weapons.

            LIKE THAT...
      8. ULTIMA RATIO REGUM
        -27
        9 December 2011 22: 54
        Bullshit. How can a Georgian take care of the Russian people? Stalin was a great strategist, politician, but he always had us .. for all the peoples of the USSR ..............
        1. Terminator
          +16
          10 December 2011 07: 35
          Georgian Stalin is more Russian than thousands of Russians in their passports in power now!
        2. +1
          14 December 2011 21: 09
          ULTIMA RATIO REGUM] Bullshit. How can a Georgian take care of the Russian People? Stalin is a great strategist, politician, but he always had us ... for all the peoples of the USSR ..............
          But Catherine the Great also did not consider herself German. You won’t be good for everyone.
        3. +1
          15 December 2011 04: 36
          THIS IS HIS TOAST FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE ...
      9. +2
        11 December 2011 10: 39
        Next to Stalin was his Putin-Beria! It’s a pity that it was not possible to replay the party scum. I hope this time this does not happen.
      10. erik777
        -1
        12 December 2011 19: 24
        No, Stalin did not write this, although his words may be about Zionism. Stalin could not write all this according to his ideology, here we are talking about Orthodoxy, but the whole structure of the USSR was based on atheism, a mountain of churches and temples were destroyed by nobody especially needed and they built housing, roads, etc. And here we are talking about some kind of proclamation ...
    2. m.metis2011
      +13
      10 December 2011 01: 58
      Worthy person !!! And it’s worthless to pour mud on it, it humiliates us and our Motherland.
  2. Radmir
    +12
    9 December 2011 07: 03
    God grant that Putin does not mess around at the most crucial moment, now the time has come "Either Pan or Disappear"
    1. +10
      9 December 2011 08: 31
      Quote: RaDmiR
      Putin didn’t fuck at the most crucial moment,


      Wrong level. Stalin died leaving his family a salary in his desk, and the country a strong army and a powerful industrial base. He did not have 4% of Gazprom
      1. +8
        9 December 2011 09: 00
        Whatever you say, Vadim, but Stalin also had a lot of mistakes both in foreign and domestic politics. There are no ideal leaders
        1. Shrucher
          +9
          9 December 2011 11: 15
          Mistakes can be fatal and not very, systemic and random - in the first versions - it’s like a kadafi, a knife in the ass, a bullet in the forehead and chaos and ruin in the country, and secondly - an empire, a leading nuclear power, which the Trotskyists have finished with rats for 40 years
        2. ESCANDER
          +11
          9 December 2011 11: 38
          One thing I’ll say is our story, is it good or not. And Stalin did not run past it.
          The king is dead, long live the king.
        3. +7
          9 December 2011 14: 14
          Andrey, I do not deny this, but only the one who does nothing is not mistaken.
          1. Evil Tatar
            0
            25 February 2012 15: 26
            Quote: RaDmiR
            God forbid that Putin does not fuck at the most crucial moment

            The main thing that would not be eliminated, in any manifestation ...
            Today I watched on RenTV Final program with Marianna Maksimovskaya ...
            Damn it, four "fat men" - heavyweights ... of Russian politics, the best representatives of the Russian ellite, damn it ... A girl "from the forest", a "daring lad" and a bunch of other gomns - pieces of a creative ellite, so to speak.
            They made a farce there, as Leontyev said ...
            The choir shouted about the illegitimacy of future elections, the cocks went pram, only they did not fight with their breasts ...
            I am cautiously waiting for March 5th, I will feel comfortable arranging THESE, as the Evenk boy sang, for us and our beloved women - all the people on March 8th ...
            Faster it would all end.
        4. +2
          11 December 2011 10: 45
          , with his own wife there are mistakes at night, and with such a big country, moreover, one who does nothing is not mistaken.
        5. +2
          11 December 2011 21: 59
          Yes, Stalin also had mistakes. There are lees to every wine. But balance is important.
          Stalin accepted Russia in complete economic, and even political devastation, and left behind him the country that won the worst war in the history of mankind, and the second world economy.
        6. 0
          15 December 2011 04: 55
          Quote: urzul
          Stalin also had a lot of mistakes both in foreign and in domestic politics.

          YES, BUT THE COUNTRY DEVELOPED ...
        7. serge348
          0
          25 February 2012 14: 16
          It's not a mistake that he does not do anything.
        8. 0
          31 October 2019 00: 59
          Quote: urzul
          Whatever you say, Vadim, but Stalin also had a lot of mistakes both in foreign and domestic politics. There are no ideal leaders

          He was not always right tactically ...
          But strategically, Stalin never made a mistake ... !!!

      2. slan
        +2
        9 December 2011 22: 15
        Vadivak,
        I have not met a better definition.
    2. -3
      14 December 2011 21: 13
      These "medveputy" have already got everyone!
  3. zavesa01
    +28
    9 December 2011 07: 11
    It was a truly great human being. Land him rest in peace. History always dots and.
  4. +4
    9 December 2011 07: 26
    With great difficulty, the Russian army was able to extinguish the flames of the Chechen war, although until recently the Soviet army was the most powerful force on the planet.

    what does power have to do with it? the author thinks that for so many years the war lasted, because the army is weak ??? and is there a reason?
    1. +3
      9 December 2011 18: 16
      The reason is that in the highest echelons of power, and most likely not only there, there are people interested in this war. On it they make their "gesheft".
    2. -1
      15 December 2011 05: 02
      Quote: Gleb
      what does power have to do with it? the author thinks that for so many years the war lasted, because the army is weak ??? and is there a reason?

      HE DID THIS PROBLEM EASY ...
  5. MIKK1972
    +8
    9 December 2011 07: 40
    Stalin left, good or bad, you can argue, but they don’t argue with history, they study it in order to use experience.
  6. Capture
    +6
    9 December 2011 08: 37
    Insightful, honest, thought-provoking note!
  7. +16
    9 December 2011 08: 51
    My father (from simple northern peasants, fought on the Leningrad front, later rose to the rank of major) always said that Stalin was a great man. I, with good bundles of ideological "noodles" on my ears, tried to argue with him. Imagine, in 50 years, some one will argue that the United States brought happiness to the peoples of Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, etc. But evil Russia inflated oil and gas prices and tried with all its might to destroy and conquer the poor European Union. Even now, half of the world believes it. At 50-60. the partocracy had to hide its sins. So they tried to make black out of white. But the PEOPLE inwardly sense the truth, especially OURS. This amerikosy can sell anything - eat and not choke.
    1. +3
      9 December 2011 09: 10


      I would like to hear-who and why hung up noodles? I mean the dirt that poured on Stalin
      1. +8
        9 December 2011 09: 58
        Obviously, you did not live at that time. And we had to study the materials of party congresses both at school and at the institute. And Solzhenitsyn alone is worth it. Few people know what he was sitting for. Ordinary fascist. He regretted that Stalin could not agree with Hitler, he fought with him and Russia suffered such losses. And then, from America, he called for a campaign against Russia. This Judas was presented to us as a martyr and a prophet. The party democracy of that time had such leverage that the current authorities did not even dream of it!
        1. 0
          9 December 2011 10: 25
          It’s obvious that I found that time .. and it was our best education in the world, that very Soviet literature — which I read — the most reading people in the world, that noodles were carried ... that particular party was pouring dirt on Stalin. Can you name me at least one gene . secretary, after the death of Stalin, who would say that this is a terrible slander? Maybe the party organizers, the Komsomol members at the meetings said that Stalin was good and all this is a lie? Maybe the teachers, for ten years at school, insisted that this was a monstrous provocation? who poured all this? weren't the people themselves led by those communist party members of Stalin? and all these liars were probably Jews? What can Solzhenitsyn remember?
          I can tell you about fellow villagers ... with whom I lived on settlements in Kazakhstan ..
        2. +2
          10 December 2011 13: 00
          ALL HUMAN RIGHTS DEFENDERS ...! ! !
        3. ballian
          -5
          10 December 2011 17: 51
          You are lying - Solzhenitsyn was not in prison for that. I am amazed at how much you have to be a dense commie to refer to "what was taught in 1970"
          1. ballian
            -4
            11 December 2011 00: 46
            By the way, I ask you to record - minusers did not refute the obvious - for what specifically (everything is written verbatim in his case) Solzhenitsyn put me in denial of an obvious liar - the scoops without any arguments just quietly started to reap the minus - you prove your wretchedness with these minuses.
            1. 0
              11 December 2011 11: 57
              Again chatter.
              What have you denied?
              This is unproven blah blah on your part!
              How do you like to humiliate your opponents so to speak "for the eyes" - "SOVKI without arguments SILENTLY INSTINCTIVE ............ proving your WORTH.
              You have nothing more?
              What are you-world + door + ball
          2. +1
            11 December 2011 01: 10
            YOUNG (IT'S FAST DIGNITY, THERE IS TIME TO REMEMBER) AND STUPID ...
          3. -1
            11 December 2011 11: 50
            How do you know why Solzhenitsyn was winding up?
      2. Shrucher
        +5
        9 December 2011 11: 22
        The cowardly, unfinished Trotskyist Khrushchev began a massive discrediting of the leader for several reasons: the main two: - sick hypertrained pride (Stalin often humiliated him due to his some narrow-minded personal qualities); - concealing the truth about his monstrous crimes during the times of purges and repressions, for example, while "acting" in Ukraine, he is the only authorized representative who demanded an increase in the limits of execution lists.
        1. +1
          11 December 2011 12: 05
          Khrushchev-FIRST JUDAH !!!
          Rename Stalingrad to Volgograd .................
          He dreamed of being a marshal (after the death of the leader), and Zhukov and other marshals did not sign
          So died
          1. 0
            11 December 2011 14: 44
            Quote: submariner
            Khrushchev-FIRST JUDAH !!!

            and in cattle with Zhukov acted, bastard!
          2. -2
            15 December 2011 05: 09
            Quote: submariner
            He dreamed of being a marshal (after the death of the leader), and Zhukov and other marshals did not sign
            So died

            BUT THIS BECAME, AT LEAST AND NOT MARSHAL, BUT BECOME ...
      3. -1
        14 December 2011 21: 21
        These were the machinations of Khrushchev N.S. to get to the top of power, and then it went, let's go ... / a series of books AB Martirosyan /
  8. 0
    9 December 2011 09: 10

    I would like to hear-who and why hung up noodles?
  9. Kostyan
    -46
    9 December 2011 09: 10
    a mustachioed dumb, narrow-minded person, a secretary snitch, a fiend of hell, a demon, an executioner, a coward and a provocateur .... no one brought so much grief to Russia like him ...... and to those wise men who flounder here about his greatness, I advise imagine yourself dying of hunger in a camp or on a collective farm, working without a passport for work for free ..... so you don’t dare to bring nonsense here ... great man ... Judas and the bastard ... stupid insignificance building the country literally on the backwoods ... nowhere else in the world was there that ... even in a shitty Nazi Germany ... well, sheep ...
    1. MIKK1972
      +7
      9 December 2011 09: 41
      They don’t say so about the dead, even a ram can offend a dead lion. Doesn't foam drip from your mouth?
    2. SL.Kocegar
      +10
      9 December 2011 09: 50
      I agree with the author, Gorbach killed more people. Those homeless people and drunks on the streets of his hands are the business, these are people who did not endure the blows of his perestroika
      1. 0
        10 December 2011 13: 04
        GORBACHEVA UNDER COURT ...! ! !
        1. +1
          14 December 2011 21: 28
          Quote: GRIGORIY1957
          GORBACHEVA UNDER COURT ...! ! !

          And how he was praised on his anniversary, as a national hero of the All West
          1. 0
            15 December 2011 05: 17
            Quote: alekSASHKA-36
            And how he was praised on his anniversary, as a national hero of the All West

            JUDGE S.KU ...! ! !
    3. Anatoly
      +8
      9 December 2011 11: 16
      Congratulations! this is the most inappropriate and stupid comment in the last week! You Kostyan school would end, but life a little.
    4. +6
      9 December 2011 12: 36
      You S_U_K_A shameful! Well, shut up! If not for him, Russia would not exist now!
      I’d dunk you in the toilet a couple of times for these words! K-o-z-e-l damn stupid! You mark here! Went nahhhh resource!
      1. Lech e-mine
        +7
        9 December 2011 16: 27
        CALM. WHEN SHOULD WE PLACE ON THE LANTERN.
    5. -2
      9 December 2011 13: 58
      What a chemically pure set of fairy tales and legends.
    6. patriot464
      +11
      9 December 2011 17: 22
      Quote: Kostyan
      a mustachioed dumb, narrow-minded person, a secretary snitch, a fiend of hell, a demon, an executioner, a coward and a provocateur .... no one brought so much grief to Russia like him ...... and to those wise men who flounder here about his greatness, I advise imagine yourself dying of hunger in a camp or on a collective farm, working without a passport for work for free ..... so you don’t dare to bring nonsense here ... great man ... Judas and the bastard ... stupid insignificance building the country literally on the backwoods ... nowhere else in the world was there that ... even in a shitty Nazi Germany ... well, sheep ...


      Valeria Ilinichna, you should not worry so much. Or didn’t you eat a pill today?
      1. BYRY
        0
        9 December 2011 22: 44
        it looks like one to one.
      2. 0
        10 December 2011 13: 07
        +100 ... NOT IN EYEBROW, AND IN EYE ... lol
    7. BYRY
      +1
      9 December 2011 21: 34
      Yes, the brow just wants more skulls on shoulder straps, because of this he wrote such a comment. Hunting will not stand out with the mind, but with skulls.
      1. 0
        9 December 2011 21: 35
        BRAINS HIM LIKE A FLOCK OF PICKERS!
        1. m.metis2011
          +1
          10 December 2011 02: 04
          wink sprats, more organized in their thoughts and actions
      2. Terminator
        0
        10 December 2011 07: 42
        Right! Skulls are the same symbol of SS.
    8. 0
      11 December 2011 07: 22
      I wrote something little, I suppose I drowned in my pus?
    9. -1
      11 December 2011 12: 17
      Kostyan
      Damn, while in Latin I typed your name, I almost broke my fingers.
      Hey, do you have a weak nickname in Russian?
      Or the owner does not understand and the dough does not pay wink
      And so it’s already clear not only to me why you charged this blizzard.
      Well, your vocabulary is not great!
      At school you probably were taught poorly, and your parents didn’t check the lessons, there are a lot of mistakes, it hurts your eyes.
      But seriously, thank you, at least I neighing today, excellent !!!
    10. 0
      15 December 2011 05: 12
      Quote: Kostyan
      a mustachioed stupid, narrow-minded person, a secretary informer, a fiend of hell, a demon, an executioner, a coward and a provocateur ....

      BRAVE...?
    11. serge348
      +1
      25 February 2012 14: 36
      What about Peter 1? Peter is also standing on the bones. History will put everyone in their place. And the Judas and the bastards-this tagged and EBN. And everything happened in the world. The Yankees destroyed the indigenous population, England and France, too, did not give out gingerbread when capturing the colonies.
    12. Evil Tatar
      0
      25 February 2012 15: 59
      Quote: Kostyan
      nobody brought so much grief to Russia like him


      Is under his surname executed or exiled, stands his aphthograph?
      People were killed by their fellow citizens out of envy, out of fear (the more you substitute, the fewer options that will come for you), having served themselves before the authorities, out of thirst for power - at least in a small village, in a village, on a vegetable warehouse, in a district committee, in a factory, in a factory, etc. Competitors were removed, husbands of beautiful women were removed, in order to take advantage, to cling to beauty, so that others envy, fear ...
      And this whole story did not happen overnight, but was created over the years ...
      Atheist people, without honor, conscience, without virtues, tore meat in pieces from the body of the Motherland, and crawled along the corpses up to power, strayed in packs, created their own morality and forced others to become like themselves ...
      Who considered the losses compared to the two times, under Stalin (not counting military losses) and under the Democrats over the past 20 years?
      Nothing ... They will soon calculate ...
      Today, if the authorities could, the executions would have the right to be ...
      There are individuals who cannot be left alive, otherwise many will die.
      It's just that the time is different in the world, democracy, permissiveness rules the ball ... Everything borders on anarchy, but I want monarchy and dialectics, under the flag of the people's father - the Tsar.
  10. -4
    9 December 2011 09: 27
    Stalin worked for the country, and Putin - for himself (my opinion). Stalin had nothing of his own, except for a smoking pipe. According to various foreign publications, Putin, from $ 80 to $ 200 billion, is the richest man in the world. Russia for him is a source of fabulous enrichment and satisfaction of his manic power ambitions. Read the list of his actions in accusing V.Ilyukhin (flooding the Mir station, closing the reconnaissance center in Cuba, destroying railway missile systems, transferring an island on the Amur from the master's shoulder to China, etc.), everything is in the interests of the country was it done?
    1. +8
      9 December 2011 09: 49
      The attribution of billions does not indicate their presence, where are they? Germans said? Kasyanov? they certainly will not lie
    2. dimarm74
      +4
      9 December 2011 09: 58
      I completely agree .... There can be no hopes for Putin, people of the wrong scale .... and they have a team of oligarchs and thieves ... they wanted to spit on everything, they live by the principle - after us, even a deluge! And about I.V. Stalin, everything is correctly written. Yes .... no one argues, he also made mistakes, but we must remember that Stalin took the country with a plow, and left it with an atomic bomb! as the sworn "friend" Churchill said. And under I.V. Stalin, the number of Russian people grew constantly, what kind of genocide in this case can we talk about. But since the 90s of the last century, the real genocide of the Russian people began!
      1. Sergh
        -7
        9 December 2011 10: 20
        I don’t know who lived here under Stalin to draw all the pros and cons of someone else's printed text, I only know one thing, the books that are served to us, all this is a waste, that on the one hand, that on the other, but you quote them.
        My grandfather said, even in the last century before perestroika, "... the second time I don't want to live under Stalin!"
        And he told me about this one, i.e. TU life of the mountain, in vain did not record on the tape recorder how they worked, what they ate and how many times a week !!! So, it’s not bad here to retell articles of the era, how many people, so many opinions, it is better to shut up!
        1. mar.tira
          -3
          9 December 2011 13: 02
          Quote: Sergh
          better to be silent!

          I support you! And now I live in that region where there are graves and memorial crosses, with a reminder of the horror that was then. For hundreds of kilometers there was blood, and the suffering of innocent, exiled, and executed people. This is, in the name of fight against Zionism or something, such victims? Something I don’t want to go through!
        2. goga5
          0
          11 December 2011 13: 03
          It is necessary to make public the data on Russia's loss of life for the period from the Civil War to June 1945 (if such data exist), as well as the structure of these losses.
    3. +1
      9 December 2011 14: 49
      Why is he (Putin) so intractable with the custodians of his capital? There is something strange in your words, they have a "leash" in their hands and he walks by himself.
    4. +7
      9 December 2011 18: 40
      Probably, we do not know a lot and it is not for us to judge, but for the next generations. Agree that you often have to take unpopular measures. Especially when the country fell into ruin at the end of 1999. The same thing happened after the 1917 revolution, which was not arranged by the Bolsheviks, by the way, but by the "crap" from the Constituent Assembly, it was they who achieved the abdication of Nicholas. The same "shitcrats" in 1991 danced on the bones of the Soviet Empire. Unwind 12-15 years in your memory and remember what was happening in the country. I do not know what is there with billions, but the country is slowly reviving and gaining strength. And for this alone, a huge gratitude to GDP.
    5. m.metis2011
      -3
      10 December 2011 02: 05
      angry am disagree
    6. sir
      -1
      11 December 2011 12: 28
      Stalin had nothing but absolute power, and this costs much more than money. But the schools and Stalin didn’t have Putin either. Stalin and his team squandered artistic values, Putin and his team were material.
    7. Evil Tatar
      0
      25 February 2012 16: 19
      Quote: Colonel
      Stalin worked for the country, and Putin worked for himself (my opinion).

      I would have looked at you, if you had a chance to get into a "spider bank", without a ruble in your pocket ...
      Is it possible to lead the seven-bankers and the oligarchy, with pockets full of holes?
      Or do you represent Putin in a shabby jacket, with bags under his eyes, palms worn from oars, and a room in the basement of the last building in the Kremlin, which runs the proteges of the fat super-beaver beavers? But who would take him seriously?
      They would crush then quickly and into the tavern, to the heifers.
      What is your uncle Zyu, and his other heavyweights, who do not deny themselves anything, although around for the people, for the hard workers ... Grandmas promise everyone ... People however are not their own.
      Well, let’s lead to 30 silver coins? Or how?
  11. I627z
    -13
    9 December 2011 10: 05
    All the "good" from Stalin was obtained with such blood that the game is not worth the candle. Kollos on feet of clay is his achievement. Which collapsed without a bloody bridle. Take at least a split in society.
    I understand that those who worship him did not put anyone (for example, according to the order) from their ancestors? Or do you not know? Or do you not want to know?
    1. +4
      9 December 2011 12: 10
      Do not attribute to one person the classic moronic Russian-bureaucratic-sycophantic fanaticism of courting the authorities. It was not Stalin who was chasing the large numbers of revealed enemies of the people, but the people of the very stratum that is now reporting to Medvedev and Putin about the fulfillment of "PUTIN'S PLAN" with overfulfillment.

      No need to do more or faster - you need to do as much as it should, but with high quality.
      1. Tyumen
        +1
        9 December 2011 14: 06
        Quote: IrbenWolf
        classic moronic Russian-bureaucratic-Lisoblyudsky fanaticism of service to the authorities.


        Great said! These lines are suitable for any system in Russia.
        1. +2
          9 December 2011 18: 44
          Another Pushkin A.S. at one time he wrote: "There is nothing more terrible than the zeal of a Russian official - senseless and merciless ..." Isn't that the trouble? And everyone pokes a finger at one, looking for the last one ...
    2. +2
      9 December 2011 17: 12
      Quote: I627z
      All the "good" from Stalin was obtained with such blood that the game is not worth the candle.

      Yes, but you take into account the real result and how long it was achieved!
      Tsarist Russia before the First World War in terms of industry and technology was one of the most backward in Europe!
      They fought with French tanks, British planes, American ships! Even native "Mosinka" in batches in the states ordered! Nagant revolvers, Maxim machine guns, Renault armored cars, Nieuport aircraft ...

      Speak with blood? Maybe ... But in terms of the industrial development of the USSR, for 15 years, the path that England traveled 150 has passed!
      And if there weren’t these 15 years of sweat and blood, what would we have fought in the 41st ?!
      And how would it all end?
      Is it worth such a "game"?
      1. -1
        9 December 2011 18: 27
        quote = Serjant] Tsarist Russia before the First World War in terms of industry and technology was one of the most backward in Europe! [/ quote]
        You are biased, it is understandable that historians of the USSR spoke about backwardness, but they are backwardly too far behind somewhere, but did Sikorsky build his planes in Europe?
        it is worth adding submarines, mine work, but you never know ...
        1. -1
          9 December 2011 23: 40
          Quote: Denis
          You are biased, it is understandable that historians of the USSR spoke about backwardness, but they are backwardly too far behind somewhere, but did Sikorsky build his planes in Europe?

          I did not write about "complete backwardness" ... re-read, please.

          And we are talking specifically about "industry and technologies", i.e. about industrial infrastructure that allows mass production.
          Yes, Sikorsky was developing planes in Russia, but there were Newpors and Albatrosses in the army!
          1. -1
            10 December 2011 23: 43
            a little is not accurate, but one of the most backward is not even complete?
            Quote: Serjant
            the armies were Newpores and Albatrosses

            a "Ilya Muromets" http://statehistory.ru/1409/Pervyy-v-mire-bombardirovshchik-i-passazhirskiy-samo
            lyet-Ilya-Muromets / and the seaplane m-5 http://avia-rest.przd.ru/g/gr_m5.php fought in the Papuan?
      2. -1
        11 December 2011 02: 22
        Yozhkin cat! Applause Sergeant! At least one person who said about Stalin’s main achievement!
        sergeant, And if there were not these 15 years of sweat and blood, what would we have fought in the 41st ?!
        And how would it all end?
        And we wouldn't exist at all! We would only have ashes in the ovens! And that would not last long! And not even from us, but from our grandfathers and grandmothers! This is such a "game" not worth the candle!

        I627z-Ended!
  12. +2
    9 December 2011 10: 06
    There is no doubt that Tukhachevsky, Bukharin, Zinoviev, Yagoda-Yehuda and other similar "comrades" were enemies of the USSR and his
    aroda. with this all-over-clear-struggle for power

    but Stalin's participation in the planting of the director of a small plant, the chairman of a distant collective farm, etc. it is highly doubtful whether their competitors "on the sly" took part in this, making the Kremlin purge on a smaller scale?
    1. Gur
      +5
      9 December 2011 10: 50
      Here I am talking about the same ... All the atrocities are attributed to Stalin, terrible millions, in fact, the figure is fluctuation in the region of 700 thousand. And now those who are outraged even by these numbers ... I say ... let me understand for everyone ... let's pick up the archive, see why, why, and whether he himself participated in these atrocities, if he didn’t slander his neighbor for getting his living space , position or because he filled your face. And others did not zeal in getting the next rank, position, or suppress their sins, and made this move quick, and as a result they themselves got there, with the help of even more zealous ones. And I think that many would calm down. It’s easier, of course, easier to poke on Stalin and say that he is to blame. Of course, he is not ideal, but the USSR raised or made to rise. And that citizen above, about camps and a collective farm for workdays .. so I’ll tell you .. don’t bring the case .. the stories will repeat .. and when the country needs to get out of the anus .. you will be forced to work for a crust of bread .. and not even hesitate, at least voluntarily at least in the camp.
      1. 0
        10 December 2011 13: 21
        Quote: GUR
        Stalin and say that he is to blame. Of course, he is not ideal, but the USSR raised or filled rise

        ... And Gorbachev has omitted, under the court of the rich ...! ! !
        1. -2
          16 March 2012 04: 28
          Quote: GRIGORIY1957
          ... And Gorbachev has omitted, under the court of the rich ...! ! !

          DISCOVER ...

          HISTORY EVERYTHING IS EQUAL TO DISCUSS ...! ! !
  13. serge
    +2
    9 December 2011 10: 16
    Yes, the people are waiting for the purges.
    1. -1
      16 March 2012 04: 29
      Quote: serge
      Yes, the people are waiting for the purges.

      THIS IS AN APPROVAL OR SORRY ..?
  14. bashir141
    +1
    9 December 2011 10: 27
    Kostya, I'm one of those smart people. And tried to imagine. And for some reason I only represent you in the zone.
  15. I627z
    -7
    9 December 2011 11: 09
    Gur, and you talk funny. First, we will drive the country into the anus, and then "heroically", with blood, we will pull it out at the expense of others.
    1. Gur
      +2
      9 December 2011 12: 24
      Yeah .. funny ... don't look down. Just look for me who is "yourself", and who are "others" ?? And to whom do you style yourself to "yourself" or to "others"? If you belong to these "themselves" then I think you do not need to strain too much .. for you in the west everything is already prepared and your stash is already waiting. It is not "others" who have driven the country into the anus and continue to do so. But with the blood of this "other" when "they themselves" will fall down, if they have time, of course, they will have to raise who heroically and who it will be everyday. For these "others" have nowhere to go, they live here on.
  16. +5
    9 December 2011 11: 44
    My grandfather once said: "Under Stalin, I got out of bast shoes and put on my boots ..."
  17. Roomata
    -3
    9 December 2011 12: 34
    Frank ordering article,
    "C" is in no way comparable to "n"
    Another attempt to impose the image of the savior of Russian democracy
    neither "p" nor "m" did even 10 shares of good, from what was done by comrade "C"
    they don’t solve anything, there’s another person helping them to go in the right direction
  18. Vladimir S
    +16
    9 December 2011 13: 05
    I want to express my opinion about Stalin. For some reason, there are no serious studies of his reign. This is a unique person who created a stable political system, an economically developed state, an unrivaled social security system for people, a clear law enforcement field, a single general educational, scientific and cultural. The system of social elevators, career growth, was created by the best engineering school in the world, penetrated into all spheres of life, was interested and knew almost everything at the expert level. As a politician, he had a fantastic gift of foresight and had brilliant managerial and organizational abilities. As for the executions, I have my own, based on documentary facts and materials, data that allow me to conclude about myself. I would have shot more, God forgive me. If there had been no Stalin, there would have been neither Russia, nor Russians, nor Russians. This is an obvious fact for me, which is undeniable. Also once , in his youth he was sinful - he succumbed to the commissars' verbiage about the bloody tyrant, with perestroika and glasnost then a lot of dirt, lies and lies came. The commissars told us the horror films from Solzhenitsyn’s books and we believed. The young ones were green, they didn’t really understand the subtleties, yes and then there was no opportunity to get an alternative opinion somewhere. With age, and most importantly, the experience of the leader came to perceive the full size of Stalin. And this is not the end. Here I recently learned that under Stalin it turned out that there was a private business! By the time of his death, the territory of the USSR there were more than 140 thousand artels who had nothing to do with the state national economy and brought considerable income to the treasury. Why are they silent about this? I understand that, compared to Stalin, all political figures are just ants, but don’t be so jealous and distort the truth.
    1. mitrich
      -2
      9 December 2011 15: 05
      Vladimir S,
      is it possible in more detail about the executions, I mean, of course, not what you would have done if you were in the place of IV Stalin. I, too, had to leaf through some documents of that time, but before setting out my point of view on repressions, I would like to read yours. Honestly, it would be extremely curious to read ...
      1. mitrich
        0
        12 December 2011 22: 56
        Vladimir S,
        Without waiting for your authoritative opinion, I will allow myself to take the liberty of expressing my own opinion. Perhaps, colleagues who are interested in the history of their native state will join in the discussion.
        My ancestors were not among the repressed, so there are no personal grievances towards Stalin. By the way, his maternal grandfather served in the Kolchak army as a private, had a record about it in his military card (not preserved), but was NOT injured (which is surprising, from the point of view of perestroika "historians", isn't it?). On the other hand, he personally held in his hands a photocopy of the execution sentence against his grandfather, dated 1938, shown to me by a friend. I repeat, personally, not from words. Sheet A4. Not approved by the prosecutor (no signature). The wording of the accusation - two paragraphs (a spy of almost 5 intelligence services, which had no other interest in how to reconnoitre in a bear's corner in the Urals), the verdict - SHOT, three signatures of the members of the CCO NKVD, below a handwritten note - "THE JUDGMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED". According to a friend who was leaving the "case" of his ancestor, it consisted of two sheets of denunciations and the above verdict. Yes, there is also a rehabilitation decree dating from the 1950s.
        Is it legal, I want to ask you and other colleagues? In my opinion, the answer is so obvious. In my opinion, we are all bold in our judgments, until the denunciation of the bastard broke his career or the opera’s shoe on the kidneys drove in. This is also the time.
        About Stalin. The personality is great and ambiguous. There is no point in arguing about greatness, since Churchill himself admits the enemy of the Soviet people. In my foreign policy, in my opinion, it’s a genius in general. He did not give an inch of his native land, he also expanded the borders. The collector of Russian lands.
        Was collectivization, according to which I have the following opinion, as a native of a kulak family: it was produced by such methods and the peasantry was trampled into such mud that the people RUN from village to city, naturally, not the most stupid and not drunkards. Industrialization was declared, workers began to be required, but how to organize this market, if the country is a peasant, how to move a person who has become attached to the earth, if he DOES NOT WANT? A revolution was declared in the countryside, the people and ran to the cities. And still runs, dreaming about "civilization".
        Repressions. Understandably Stalin's desire to get rid of the "fifth column" on the eve of the World War, the onset of which he, as an intelligent person, could not help but foresee. But the leader's performing skills on the ground clearly let down. Tukhachevsky, Yakir and the entire "Leninist guard" to boot me do not mind, they are their 9 gr. since the Civil War, they deserved it, but there were also Rokossovsky, and Gorbatov, and Meretskov? This is one of those who were pulled out of the dungeons in time. And how many failed? Or, do you think, a happy ending happened for all innocently convicted?
        I believe that the truth, as always, lies somewhere in between. Maybe after 300 years we will begin to consider Stalin an ideal politician, like Peter I (who was also not a darling by nature), but personally I am not ready for this yet. Stalin cannot be watered with mud or put instead of icons. In these senses I I like my time better. Here are some thoughts about that.
        1. slan
          0
          12 December 2011 23: 42
          And you never know the gravestones with young faces dated "your time"? But is it a matter of principle for a person: was he shot by the verdict of three members of the NKVD, or at the whim of one "not working anywhere", or just bleed out while the ambulance was driving for three hours, or maybe he was unsuccessfully met in 94 NG in Grozny? ... Or is it better not to be born at all? ..
          I don’t know what is better and fairer. But from the point of view of statistics, and common sense, the sentence of the trio is by no means the most unworthy members of society — the lesser of evils. Your friend’s grandfather’s sentence is certainly deliberately fabricated, but did you know what really stood behind him? Not the fact that it is exceptionally equally frankly false libel. But think about what sentences you can write to the current figures, whose documents are all clean, is it worth giving specific examples?
          Of course, with such a system, innocent victims are inevitable, I do not argue. But the world is generally cruel in nature and sometimes you come to the conclusion that the greatest evil is still more likely Gorbachev's inaction than the most ill-conceived actions of the same Stalin.
          Yes, of course, there are no unambiguous figures, and there shouldn’t be, for that is what people are.
          1. mitrich
            0
            12 December 2011 23: 58
            slan,
            I will not argue. The opinion is stated.
            It never occurred to you that if Hitler died, say, of a heart attack, in August 1940, a couple of months after the Wehrmacht parade in Paris, would his role in the historical memory of the German people be completely different than now? But all you had to do was die 4,8 years earlier feel...
            This is me about the role of personality in history.
            1. slan
              0
              13 December 2011 00: 09
              But I did not argue. I also probably assess the role of Hitler differently, because I never thought so. Everyone has their own truth, everything is relative, if you stole a ram .. if you have it .. I'm not ironic.
              ps yes I agree with you, just thinking out loud
  19. L. konstantin
    0
    9 December 2011 13: 40
    I have not read the article. but I will say that Stalin was the most successful leader. who would not say and write about him. Now I would put Stalin at the "helm" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    achieve such results in a breakthrough of the military-industrial complex in a short time. to restore the country after the war. and finally defeat this very war! Great Man! and P and M and taken together before him like cancer to China
    1. ytqnhfk
      -2
      11 December 2011 02: 09
      I read it! I thought! I’ll write this: when you do a big thing and, besides, you’re new, you often have to strain very hard so that everything will work out and still doing it 5 times faster and better! Imagine if now such a person comes to power, how many will he immediately shoot? And will drive you to the camps? I’ll return to the beginning of my commentary. Stalin was on the threshold of war and he had no time to confront the incomprehensible! he, as a surgeon, cut out not “Russians!
  20. +1
    9 December 2011 13: 49
    no matter how it was, but only two of the most abused secretaries-general, Stalin and Brezhnev, did not tear the country in parts
    Andropov and Chernenko, you yourself do not understand
  21. +7
    9 December 2011 13: 52
    it was the Greatest historical person, and Ours, and all that he did, even as some say at the cost of many lives, was done for our good, and Gorbach and others like him shook all this downwind to please the West, and did not give a damn about the lives spent and the forces of the people-this is many times greater crime ........ Vissarionovich - a competent figure, perhaps an underrated genius ..... now I would
    1. Radmir
      +6
      9 December 2011 15: 05
      I subscribe to every word. On my own behalf, I will add, but now the "tagged" one is sitting in London and from there he pushes that he expresses concern about the situation in the Country, who can shut up and sit quietly all his life so it is for him - such a Country has been fucked up = (no shame, no conscience ...
      1. -1
        10 December 2011 13: 29
        Quote: RaDmiR
        I’ll add from myself, but now BEAR "marked" sits in London and from there podvyvivaet that expresses concern about the situation in the country, who really shut up and sit quietly all his life so it is him - such a country pros_ral

        ... UNDER HIS COURT ...! ! !
      2. L. konstantin
        -2
        11 December 2011 20: 45
        I support! God avenged him! you know how!
  22. zavesa01
    -2
    9 December 2011 14: 16
    A couple of questions to Kostyan:

    How much could be obtained in a workday, What was the internal situation in Russia when IW Stalin took power, How many the USSR lost the people in the Second World War and when the last cards were canceled, How much Soviet science was ahead of the West, How infrastructure was developed under the rule of Stalin, Prod. basket in the year 50.

    Answering these questions, answer one more question: In what years did this happen in Russia.
    1. +2
      9 December 2011 18: 43
      Quote: zavesa01
      How many USSR lost people in WWII


      But the USSR itself did not lose


      Quote: zavesa01
      and when the last cards were canceled


      the card system in the USSR was canceled earlier than in England, where the fascist invader did not set foot.
    2. 0
      9 December 2011 23: 06
      A workday is not a working day, but a certain amount of work, the norm: to mow a certain area, weed or plow. Advanced workers earned dozens of workdays per day.
      In 1939, a minimum was established of what had to be worked out on the collective farm, from 60 to 100 workdays per year.
      With the outbreak of war, the minimum workdays was increased to 100-150 workdays per year.
      Example:
      For one workday in the farm Dawn in the 1937 year, the collective farmer received: 30 kg of grain, 5 rubles. 80 cop., 65 gr of meat, 65 gr of wool, 2,3 kg of hay.
      The family of the collective farmer Ustyantsev, earning 760 workdays, receives 1500 pounds of bread and 4000 rubles of money. 4000 rub at that time the money is not at all small.
      1. ballian
        -3
        10 December 2011 18: 10
        At least in Wikipedia, type "workday" and see how many people received your "blessings" And there is no need to drive about the leaders here. The usual stimulating propaganda like spud 6 acres of potatoes in an hour and you will be happy.
        1. -1
          11 December 2011 13: 40
          Open Wikipedia and read:
          In 1935, the second section was introduced into Article 15 of the "Model Statute of the Agricultural Artel", which recommended that the collective farms distribute income according to the results of labor.
          Based on these changes, on each collective farm for all agricultural work, the board developed and the general meeting of collective farmers approved the standards for the development and pricing of each work in workdays, taking into account the required qualifications of the worker, the complexity, difficulty and importance of work for the collective farm. At least once a week, the number of workdays worked out is recorded in the collective farmer's work book. Advance payments and the final distribution of income between collective farmers are made solely by the number of workdays worked out.
          In 1936, the average output per collective farm yard was 393 workdays, in 1939 the output increased to 488 workdays. At the same time, payment for workdays began to depend on productivity.
          There was a zonal trend in the amount of payments for workdays and in the structure of such payments. On collective farms engaged in industrial crops (cotton growing), payments were higher and more in cash. For example, in 1935 in Tajikistan, on the Bolshevik collective farm, each family received an average of 10 thousand rubles of income, and the family of Salikhan Dadaev, who worked 1593 workdays, received 22 rubles. income (303 rubles per workday). On the collective farms of food production (in Ukraine, in the middle zone of the RSFSR), payments were significantly lower and mainly in kind.


          And inappropriately here to drive ....


          Study the primary sources.
    3. L. konstantin
      -2
      10 December 2011 15: 14
      if I answer you!

      1. no less than now.
      2. not the best after the Bolsheviks. bt 2 bt 7 ms 1. by the end of the war, is 3 is 4 object 262 is 7 believe me a significant breakthrough for 6 years.
      3. Russia WWII lost peoples not because of Stalin.
      4. Soviet science was not ahead of the west but not behind, and in some cases even ahead. remember Katyusha.
      5. too lazy to look. but prices were dropping.
  23. +3
    9 December 2011 14: 34
    The communist idea is beautiful! I would be a supporter of KP, but the idea is too utopian, for its implementation it is necessary to have IMMEDIATELY millions of crystal clear associates. Otherwise, the anointed will spoil and discredit all the efforts of a small group of apostles of this idea.
    I can’t agree, I don’t understand how the leaders of the modern Communist Party simultaneously honor Ulyanov and Stalin. The first was an agent, saboteur, adventurer, revolutionary, enemy of Russia, in short - a moral freak. The second devoted all his activities to eliminating the consequences of the first, continued the work as a real Russian Emperor, assuming responsibility for the country.
    Repression ?! But what about? Regularity: revolutions end with counter-revolutions, read the history of the world. Civil war is the worst of all, the "enthusiastic activists" of such a war had to be cleaned out almost completely. World War II is the second act of the tragedy conceived and begun in 1914. Who conceived it? Yes, the one who "won", that is, won a lot of capital. The one who acted according to calculation, and not on emotions. And we washed in blood, paid a great sacrifice for a great sin - for the betrayal of the country and ancestors in 1917.
    Revolutionaries continue to play on emotions. The fools have no mind, their actions are governed only by emotions. And spread your brains yourself. Is it possible to make society better by denying experience, breaking it down and starting over? I am sure that it will be "wandering around an unlit warehouse with a rake", and not "weeding a vegetable garden."
    There is no perfection, unfortunately it cannot be, but improvements can only be made evolutionarily, gradually doing their work and passing it on to smart heirs.
    (If someone reproaches pathos, then discard pathos, catch the point)
    1. -2
      9 December 2011 15: 06
      It is not necessary to reduce the entire Russian revolution only to the tricks of foreign intelligence, the liberals scold Lenin no less than Stalin, maybe all the same it was not so as they say. And be that as it may, Lenin managed to organize people and wrest power from the hands of wimps poking the country (by the way, the pre-revolutionary situation is somewhat similar to the current one). so Lenin and Stalin should not be opposed to each other.
      1. -3
        9 December 2011 15: 32
        I don't see the abilities of this character. Many favorable "coincidences" happened along the way.
        1. Gur
          -1
          9 December 2011 17: 12
          In one more, white bone, blue blood, that also lost a candle factory or a mill ?? Judging by your post, do you, as a character, have anything to surprise us with? Nature did not rest on you, and overwhelmed you with a lot of abilities ?? You know several languages, graduated from school brilliantly, excellent advocate and the masses are following you? Judging by the post, vryatli. Quoting the vomit of "idiologists" of the mind does not need much. Well, if you are already so enlightened .. tell us stupid .. whose agent was Lenin, whose deversant ?? And you must have successfully equated all this crap with a revolutionary. About people like you gryat "The dog barks the wind carries." Your thought about Stalin -Russian Emperor looks even more stupid, yeah, you canonize him yet .. Make society better without the experience of the past? Well, probably yes, when from the head of a slave, you need to remove everything slave and make him think and live like a free man, without his "joyful past." That is exactly what all those "moral agents, agents, saboteurs, adventurers" tried to do. And it even succeeded, only people like you, with your little soul and vitality (well, after all, they survived somehow, they probably didn’t live badly yet) zaparoli and pakhabili all that light that they tried to give you. And who did we (you) actually betray in 17th? What ancestors and what country? And usually people like you, talking about the Second World War, add that it would be better to surrender and now drank beer and drove their cars. So what about betraying yourself ...
    2. Tyumen
      -1
      9 December 2011 15: 43
      Quote: Kite
      I don’t understand how the leaders of the modern Communist Party honor both Ulyanov and Stalin at the same time.


      But the agitator (solodova) will appear, so she will sign you.
      In general, they wrote well, respect.
    3. ballian
      -3
      10 December 2011 17: 47
      what a perverted logic - Lenin's accomplice in ALL his affairs is good, but the fact that he was a country destroyed by the Bolsheviks, he was forced to pull out with wild barbaric methods from that shit and dead end and international isolation where he drove her - "good" :))))
      You are absolutely right - the communist idea is utopian because it completely ignores the person SUCH AS, to build the entire social and especially economic system on altruists who work for nobody knows who and they don’t give a damn about themselves - this is the root of the fact that this is utopia. said
      http://gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1215678173.php
      http://gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1215752891.php
  24. +1
    9 December 2011 17: 06
    Quote: Tyumen 35
    But the agitator (solodova) will appear, so she will sign you.

    What are you signing for me? I kind of didn’t carry out such political information with a historical bias ...
  25. -3
    9 December 2011 18: 48
    I would agree with the author of the article, if it were not for the conclusion he makes: “That is why, if Vladimir Putin begins to pursue a course of nationalizing the country's most important industries, restoring the model of a socialist state, with the“ cleansing ”of the most odious personalities of the period of liberal rule, oligarchy, will meet the massive support of the people. "
    Putin has repeatedly stated that he will not allow any changes in the chosen direction of Russia's development path. And although very few people already believe his words, one can believe this. He strictly fulfills this general line. Probably because it is directly in the sphere of HIS interests .... All his life he worked for the "family" of oligarchs, and now you expect from him that he will work for the people? You shouldn't consider our people so stupid, mister author ...
    The stories of the nationalization of unprofitable private enterprises are well known. The state buys up the shares squeezed by the oligarchs like lemon enterprises at inflated prices, restores them for budgetary (ours) money, and then for free sells the enterprise to another oligarch. Money is honestly shared between the oligarchs .... This is Putin's nationalization ....
    As for Stalin's will ..... In his will, he left us a great power, which we did not save for our children ..... Just do not load us with "secret wills" with Stalin's dream of restoring the monarchy .... These tales tell your grandchildren at night .... Pretty cheap jokes.
  26. -1
    9 December 2011 20: 48
    STALIN AFTER DEATH REMAINS THE Overcoat, Shmotka and a little money in Safe-A. The present power cannot steal.
    1. -1
      10 December 2011 23: 28
      Quote: kosmos84
      LITTLE MONEY IN SAFE

      it seems about a hundred in the table, so much went to the safe to clean
  27. yariksun
    +1
    9 December 2011 21: 01
    There is one very good saying that "If all untruths are removed from history, then the truth does not always remain, there may be nothing left at all." It is necessary to assess the activities of the head of the country according to the "end products" - the level of education, health care, science and industry, the army, etc. The hysteria surrounding the repressions of the Stalinist period is ignorance of the essence of the issue of the struggle against the "fifth column" inherited from Lenin, and the distortion of this whole struggle by obligingly cowardly officials of all stripes and ranks. It was not Stalin who pressed and fired with his own hands, but the cowardly "bosses" hiding behind the huge numbers of destroyed and arrested "enemies of the people" their professional insignificance and inability to single out real enemies. I reported my wife or cow where necessary to the one who needs it who really wanted a little zvuzdochku on shoulder straps, that in turn to the one who really wanted a company car, etc. Our people are ready to eat each other ...
  28. dobry-ork
    -1
    9 December 2011 22: 02
    Stalin is still a very controversial figure in our history. Yes, with him the country rose from the ruins of the revolution and civil war, but the people paid a big price. Often there were excesses in the field. My paternal grandfather sat in the camps for 5 years because of slanderous denunciations and left there with such poor health ... So my personal attitude to Stalin is somewhat negative
    1. slan
      0
      9 December 2011 22: 18
      And when did they plant it?
      1. 0
        10 December 2011 13: 25
        And for what?
  29. +3
    10 December 2011 05: 31
    The fact that Stalin raised a toast specifically for the Russian people is a historical fact.
    The fact that Stalin again hung Kutuzov on the walls of his offices, Suvorov with him made a movie about Nevsky - a historical fact. Before that, they were all revered as "exploiters of the working people"
    During the Battle of Stalingrad, he abolished the institution of commissioners. He returned the royal shoulder straps instead of the communist buttonholes.
    The fact that during his time it was precisely with the representatives of the "Leninist guard" that the ships of the former revolutionaries were sent to the Kolyma is also a fact. Stalin was never an admirer of Lenin.
    Pay attention to how the whole world is pouring mud on Stalin, but we don’t hear a single word of bad things about the main freak of the 20 century - Lenin.
    Why? Because Stalin returned to Russia its power,
    1. slan
      +3
      10 December 2011 10: 01
      Almost nothing is heard about Trotsky, Bukharin, Zinoviev either.
      And as if Stalin personally planted everyone.
    2. ballian
      -3
      10 December 2011 17: 17
      What's behind these conclusions ? Did Stalin personally tell you? Just removed the influential competitors (which themselves have been since the time of the Revolution), which could shake his sole power.
      When the Germans hit him on the ass - what was left for him - the Germans could not be defeated by the ideas of the world revolution.
      And in general, what a perverted logic - Lenin's accomplice in all his affairs is good, but the fact that he was a country destroyed by the Bolsheviks, he was forced to pull out with savage barbaric methods from that shit and dead end and international isolation where he drove her - "good" :))) )
  30. I627z
    -1
    10 December 2011 12: 49
    Gur. Firstly: I didn’t drink with you at Brudershaft, so that you would turn to you, but so be it.
    Secondly: in order to be taken seriously, do
    grammatical errors, at least not in every 10th word, otherwise it looks like you only learned to the 3rd grade.
    Thirdly: you obviously even finished three classes badly.
    Fourthly: You don't even need to prove with documents in hand that Lenin was an agent. The Russian Empire experienced DIFFICULTIES in the war, it was drained of blood, people rushed about in search of the best, and these "patriots" (the Bolsheviks led by Lenin) did not find anything smarter than to "plunge a knife" into their "beloved" Motherland. If this is not an agent, then who?
    Fifthly: until 1917 there was: Novgorod Rus, Kievan Rus ...... Russian Empire. This historical period is somewhat more significant than the dubious achievements (cards, deficit, treating people as "cogs", etc.) of the last 70 years, so they were betrayed.
    Sixth: "yourself" is you, the communists and the like, and you are Gur, since you hate everything that differs from your point of view and is ready to destroy such in the literal sense. In your brain there is at least a hint that a person can be of other political views, but still be a patriot?
    Seventh: the country was raised not only by "simple" hard workers, but also by "blue" blood, and the intelligentsia, and specialists from various fields, who did not go abroad, but remained. They stayed to raise the country, because, unlike you, they love any homeland, not just one that matches your ideas. And most of them remained. It just wasn't advertised for obvious reasons.
    Eighth: about the Second World War, in my not a small family, 7 people (grandfathers and grandmother) went through the whole war. These are different types of troops: infantry, aviation, tank troops, and artillery. EVERYONE returned. And some were born before the revolution. I, unlike you, did not betray my ancestors, therefore I love, respect and adore them for their feat of arms, before ALL, not distinguishing who was born before and who after the revolution, who was an ideological communist, and who sang "God Save the king. " Therefore, the next time about "Better to lose" it would be even better to remain silent.
    Ninth: Your envy about the "Factory" and "stash" is understandable, because you do not have this and cannot be either by origin, or by your talents, or by virtue of mental abilities (see paragraphs 2, 3 ). And so you want, really !!!
    Tenth: It is very sad that Education (even a cook can manage the state), History (life did not exist before 1917), even Common Sense (all your statements) are deplorable. But now the meaningless slogans and stupid provocation (about beer and cars) are always in price now
    PS In the process of writing, I discovered that I switched to "you", excuse me.
    1. Gur
      -1
      12 December 2011 11: 09
      I627z / I apologize for the familiarity. Maybe really .. my estate origin is not as great as yours, but I am not going to add your high-nobility to your nickname. As for my spelling .. so I will answer you .. that I have this problem with the army, where in communication with high-speed typing, grammatical errors are not significant, the main thing was, the speed and general meaning of the message, in numbers and mistakes were not allowed. With my education, thank God, everything is fine, the communists gave me the opportunity to learn, with normal teachers, with a normal system, without rewriting history, without reworking and transferring the primacy of the achievements of our and Russian science. As for the history .. I, without your digression .. I know about Novgorod and so on Russia, in contrast to today's delirium. And the achievements and significance of the latter is not underestimated by anyone. And I am no less moved by your stupidity when people like you ascribe all the "deeds" to the Bolsheviks and Lenin in particular, and the rest of the people seem to have nothing to do with this, and I repeat once again that because of a good life, brother does not go to brother like a father to a son. And it is not yet known how the First World War would have ended for Imeria. I think that would be cooler than cards. And the first to look like you .. stuck the knife liberals democrats during the February revolution. There is room in my brain for dissenters, and I respect the opinions of those with different political views.
      (their own and not brought by the money of the State Department), and I understand them when they do not agree with the system and politics of the country, while sitting in prisons, leaving the country, in general, they are fighting openly. And I won't see people like you, because you sat for the time being, grew up, studied, passed the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (if your age allowed it) and silently and completely agreed, lived at the expense of the entire people. And now, when the wind blew from the other side, did you see at once? And for you at once the communists, and the fact that they gave you and your relatives in large numbers, gave it became criminal. And I have no doubt if another wind blows again, your flag of consciousness, so to speak, will turn in the other direction, and you will sing another song, and you will find way to settle in and survive. And judging by your post, you are the "blue blood" and the intelligentsia that "helped" to build the USSR, and she also ditched it and continues to fuck Russia now. In my family, too, they did not eat up in food warehouses during the Second World War and not all returned. And it hurts me to look at my 95-year-old grandmother, who apologizes for the degeneration "from roaming" on the labor front and then raised the country from ruins, as a result receives a penny pension, and everything that she and my parents put their hands on is plundered, ruined and is anaphima and belongs to the protesters. And I have never heard curses or not contentment in the direction of the then CPSU, nor now when it is not. That with regards to my talents and accession, stash and factories, I have already answered people like you. With this, everything is fine with me, and my wife and three children have a car, an apartment and a "petty-bourgeois business" or rather the work that I had to do to myself, due to the fact that my native enterprises, as I wrote, were squandered. And I am also sorry that today's education leaves much to be desired, when the cook knew more than the current generation, and when today's enlightened people tell tales about that time in which they did not live, but they picked up the crap from people like themselves. And which "senseless slogans" are replacing with slogans and leaders from so far and close to the West. And unlike you, I believe that I betrayed my ancestors in the 91st by my docility, I have already voiced the reasons. And as one of the comrades wrote here on the site, in fact, we all betrayed who what, who his plant, gave it to pilfer, who the country, who the party. In general, that's all I wanted to tell you.
    2. Gur
      -1
      12 December 2011 11: 38
      I627z / I apologize for the familiarity. Maybe really .. my estate origin is not as great as yours, but I am not going to add your high-nobility to your nickname. As for my spelling .. so I will answer you .. that I have this problem with the army, where in communication with high-speed typing, grammatical errors are not significant, the main thing was, the speed and general meaning of the message, in numbers and mistakes were not allowed. With my education, thank God, everything is fine, the communists gave me the opportunity to learn, with normal teachers, with a normal system, without rewriting history, without reworking and transferring the primacy of the achievements of our and Russian science. As for the history .. I, without your digression .. I know about Novgorod and so on Russia, in contrast to today's delirium. And the achievements and significance of the latter is not underestimated by anyone. And I am no less moved by your stupidity when people like you ascribe all the "deeds" to the Bolsheviks and Lenin in particular, and the rest of the people seem to have nothing to do with this, and I repeat once again that because of a good life, brother does not go to brother like a father to a son. And it is not yet known how the First World War would have ended for Imeria. I think that would be cooler than cards. And the first to look like you .. stuck the knife liberals democrats during the February revolution. There is room in my brain for dissenters, and I respect the opinions of those with different political views.
      (their own and not brought by the money of the State Department), and I understand them when they do not agree with the system and politics of the country, while sitting in prisons, leaving the country, in general, they are fighting openly. And I won't see people like you, because you sat for the time being, grew up, studied, passed the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (if your age allowed it) and silently and completely agreed, lived at the expense of the entire people. And now, when the wind blew from the other side, did you see at once? And for you at once the communists, and the fact that they gave you and your relatives in large numbers, gave it became criminal. And I have no doubt if another wind blows again, your flag of consciousness, so to speak, will turn in the other direction, and you will sing another song, and you will find way to settle in and survive. And judging by your post, you are the "blue blood" and the intelligentsia that "helped" to build the USSR, and she also ditched it and continues to fuck Russia now. In my family, too, they did not eat up in food warehouses during the Second World War and not all returned. And it hurts me to look at my 95-year-old grandmother, who apologizes for the degeneration "from roaming" on the labor front and then raised the country from ruins, as a result receives a penny pension, and everything that she and my parents put their hands on is plundered, ruined and is anaphima and belongs to the protesters. And I have never heard curses or not contentment in the direction of the then CPSU, nor now when it is not. That with regards to my talents and accession, stash and factories, I have already answered people like you. With this, everything is fine with me, and my wife and three children have a car, an apartment and a "petty-bourgeois business" or rather the work that I had to do to myself, due to the fact that my native enterprises, as I wrote, were squandered. And I am also sorry that today's education leaves much to be desired, when the cook knew more than the current generation, and when today's enlightened people tell tales about that time in which they did not live, but they picked up the crap from people like themselves. And which "senseless slogans" are replacing with slogans and leaders from so far and close to the West. And unlike you, I believe that I betrayed my ancestors in the 91st by my docility, I have already voiced the reasons. And as one of the comrades wrote here on the site, in fact, we all betrayed who what, who his plant, gave it to pilfer, who the country, who the party. In general, that's all I wanted to tell you.
      1. -1
        15 December 2011 15: 51
        You argue with your conjectures (factories, blue blood, ...), and you also wanted to answer a question that you never had before, and that’s the confusion in words.
        Twenty years ago, we were all 20 years younger, and even if at that time there were as many sources of information, then the reason for our youth, we would have little interest in them. But getting older, not to comprehend your actions and beliefs - this is strange.
  31. 0
    10 December 2011 13: 00
    I read that Stalin is not Georgians but Ossetians
  32. -1
    10 December 2011 13: 48
    Quote: RaDmiR
    I’ll add from myself, but now BEAR "marked" sits in London and from there podvyvivaet that expresses concern about the situation in the country, who really shut up and sit quietly all his life so it is him - such a country pros_ral

    ... UNDER HIS COURT ...! ! !
  33. I627z
    -2
    10 December 2011 13: 48
    What is minus 1? Got something to say?
  34. I627z
    -2
    10 December 2011 14: 16
    Sergeant. In the year 41, we had 26000 tanks, 13500 aircraft.
    Fascist Germany had 4500 tanks and 4000 aircraft.
    Did it help much at the start of the war?
    About the quality of technology do not even start talking.
    It's not about quality, not about quantity, but about the readiness of the army for a defensive war and training of personnel. The army of the Russian Empire was prepared no worse than the Soviet one. And about the new technology in the Russian army, many examples can be cited (at least "Novik") only the Reds have no desire to study this. Alas
  35. 0
    10 December 2011 14: 46
    in November I read Zhukov's "Memories and Reflections". There it is very clearly written WHO and HOW was engaged in repression. These were men who were dissatisfied with their bosses, who were forced to plow, plow and plow, while they did not want to. Zhukov himself also almost thundered into the dungeons of the NKVD on the denunciation of one such dissatisfied. In fact, the entire repressive system was not built by Stalin, but precisely by such sycophants from the NKVD and lazy informers
    1. ballian
      -4
      10 December 2011 17: 08
      The system was built by Stalin - to deny this is beyond the scope, and it was built just like a repressive one designed to fight all kinds of internal enemies. Lawlessness did not fall from the sky. And Stalin's personal involvement has already been proved by many documents.
      1. -2
        11 December 2011 01: 22
        Quote: ballian
        And Stalin’s personal involvement has already been proven by many documents.

        Present at least one ...
        I ALREADY SPEAKED, "YOUNG (THIS IS SOON DIGNITY, THERE IS TIME TO UNDERSTAND) AND STUPID ..."
        1. ballian
          -3
          11 December 2011 02: 14
          Do you want me to spend my precious time allotted to me by God for the enlightenment of hamsters ?? I don’t give a damn - I am amusing myself on this site, at least believe that Stalin the Elf.
          1. +1
            11 December 2011 12: 28
            But you mean like opponents love hamsters !!
            You probably have less brains than these animals tongue
            Tomsk hamster wink wink wink
          2. -1
            11 December 2011 13: 44
            Your time is not as precious as you think. Judging by the level of your intelligence, then you should pay us this for the fact that we read your opus.
          3. Terminator
            -1
            11 December 2011 17: 30
            "... I'm having fun on this site ..." - so you should go to Petrosyan's site!
      2. -1
        11 December 2011 12: 26
        Again, chatter!
    2. slan
      -1
      10 December 2011 23: 30
      Zhukov "almost thundered" for looting - this version inspires me more confidence.
      1. ballian
        -5
        11 December 2011 01: 00
        Eh, it reminds me of something. Khodorkovsky was imprisoned only after he began to "yakat" (before that for a long time they did not notice "sins", although 70% of today's billionaires could be imprisoned for exactly the same charges.
        It is a fact that the "hoarding" among the Soviet genius (and honestly must admit the entire Soviet Army) flourished. It is a normal political move to use this to "lower" authoritative generals who can block the great Stalin and => who can remove him.
        1. slan
          0
          11 December 2011 11: 59
          Well, what's the analogy? Just then, the law was one for all. Why is 70% again?
          And there is no need to sprinkle "facts" here, what flourished there if there was just order?
          Stalin did not have any complexes that someone would "block" him there, he also instructed Zhukov to command the victory parade.
          No need to project their problems on others, not everyone has an inferiority complex with paranoia.
          1. ballian
            -1
            11 December 2011 13: 36
            I heard that Yasin spoke about this on the basis of the ideas put forward to Khodorkovsky, you can put two-thirds of the super-rich (the fact that they are far-fetched is another matter).
            You then lived to tell stories here? What is the law for everyone? Have you ever heard how many people were rehabilitated after Stalin's "justice"?
            Stalin consistently "removed" more or less independent personalities - Stalin broke Trotsky's boss, not because Trotsky broke something there, Tukhachevsky went there, Bukharin, Zinoviev ..............
            I am amazed that little people do not understand that Stalin achieved such power from scratch in a fierce political struggle, he is not the "anointed of God" who was put on the throne for his beautiful eyes, and no one gave him any guarantees to rule for life. His successor, Khrushchov, was not thrown out of power by aliens.
            1. -1
              11 December 2011 13: 49
              And how many people were rehabilitated in the 30s do you know?
              1. slan
                +2
                11 December 2011 14: 55
                By the way, yes.
                Reclaimed in their rights in 34 restored.
                And in the 90s, criminals were rehabilitated primarily up to the murderers of Pavlik Morozov.
                There is nothing to be confused with the post-revolutionary Jewish genocide and the cleansing of the country from these burrs.
      2. -1
        15 December 2011 05: 27
        Quote: slan
        Zhukov "almost thundered" for looting - this version inspires me more confidence.

        already one word "looting" stinks of Western "historians"
        it was, it wasn’t, it’s a muddy matter, and even if it was, it IS BY THE WINNER'S RIGHT
  36. I627z
    -1
    10 December 2011 15: 10
    Evgeny 46. In Soviet times, when I was in school, grade 4-5, in history lessons I was anathematized by the fact that in the Russian Empire the people were presented with their "oppression" as the activity of individuals. And the king is not to blame for anything, because he is not aware of what is happening. The Bolsheviks opened the eyes of the whole world that it was the tsar who was to blame for all the "troubles of the working people." These are textbooks on the history of the Soviet era.
    And here: Stalin is not aware of what is happening, that is, does not control the repression of the "beloved" people.
    As always, a policy of double standards?
  37. patriot64
    +2
    10 December 2011 23: 20
    Now it’s customary to scold Stalin. But this is our story! Under Stalin, there was no such crime and theft, as now,! There were a lot of minuses, but also a huge amount of positive ones! Stalin is right-Russia and the Russian people need a strong monarch ruler. Lenin ordered the last monarch to be executed and made a huge mistake. Russia is an imperial state.
  38. +2
    11 December 2011 11: 37
    How can we not have such a strong politician who would give a damn about a lot in terms of conversations from the West. Anyway, what to worry about as president, with enormous loyalty of the security forces inside the country, and with nuclear weapons in world politics !!!
  39. Motherland
    +3
    11 December 2011 12: 34
    Stalin clearly showed that even after the most terrible collapse, Russia could rise and become a strong power very quickly.
    1. goga5
      -1
      11 December 2011 12: 38
      ... at the cost of the lives of millions of compatriots.
      1. slan
        +3
        11 December 2011 18: 17
        At the cost of the lives of millions of compatriots, Gorbachev achieved the opportunity to appear in advertising pizza and give lectures. And under Stalin, the population grew.
  40. +5
    11 December 2011 12: 42
    Whatever and whoever they tell me about Stalin, I have my own opinion about him.
    Please compare the two political figures:
    1. Stalin-raised the COUNTRY from the ruins, won the war together with the people. (The West and the Vatican hate him and from their will their "messengers" are trying to brainwash us).
    2. Gorbachev-destroyed the COUNTRY, unleashed several regional conflicts, betrayed his comrades-in-arms (the West extols him and sets him as an "example" for our current rulers).

    Whoever and whatever they say to me (hamsters from Tomsk lol ) I have my opinion
  41. +5
    11 December 2011 12: 57
    Well, maybe it's a fake. The Internet is full of places where this testament is literally dismantled and proved that I.V. Stalin could not write this. Many reasons, the style, not his speech, the relevant concepts. But there is officially recorded and not a little questionable speech of Stalin.

    SPEECH BY COMRADE JV STALIN
    AT THE RECEPTION IN THE KREMLIN
    IN HONOR OF THE COMMANDING WAR
    RED ARMY
    24 May 1945

    Comrades, let me raise another last toast.
    I would like to raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people and, above all, the Russian people. (Stormy, prolonged applause, cries of "cheers").
    I drink, above all, for the health of the Russian people because it is the most prominent nation of all the nations that make up the Soviet Union.

    I am making a toast to the health of the Russian people because he deserved general recognition in this war as the leading force of the Soviet Union among all the peoples of our country.

    I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people, not only because they are the leading people, but also because they have a clear mind, a strong character and patience.
    Our government had many mistakes, we had moments of desperate situation in 1941-1942, when our army retreated, left our native villages and cities of Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Leningrad Region, the Baltic States, the Karelian-Finnish Republic, and therefore left that there was no other way. Other people could say to the Government: you did not live up to our expectations, go away, we will set up another government that will conclude peace with Germany and provide us with peace. But the Russian people did not go for it, for they believed in the correctness of the policies of their Government and made sacrifices to ensure the defeat of Germany.

    And this confidence of the Russian people in the Soviet Government turned out to be the decisive force that ensured a historic victory over the enemy of mankind - over fascism.

    Thanks to him, the Russian people, for this trust!
    For the health of the Russian people! (Stormy, prolonged applause.)



    And here is another, little-known toast of Stalin:

    ... Leaving aside the issues of equality and self-determination, Russians are the main nationality of the world, she was the first to raise the flag of the Soviets against the whole world. The Russian nation is the most talented nation in the world [compare Russian and German capitalism in the sense of armament before October and now with us]. Everyone was beaten by Russians - Turks and even Tatars, who attacked for 200 years and failed to take control of the Russians, although they were poorly armed then. If the Russians are armed with tanks, aircraft, navy - they are invincible, invincible ...

    1933, May 2 Stalin's table speech at a reception in the Kremlin for participants in the May Day parade (Synopsis of R.P. Khmelnitsky)
  42. 0
    11 December 2011 14: 54
    I627z, I personally answer you. There can be no question of any policy of double standards. Why? Stalin sharpened the NKVD in search of enemies of the people, that is, those people who would be the fifth column. But the trouble is that many people have used this for their own purposes. This was already Stalin's biggest mistake - he did not give instructions to investigate every such fact. However, there may have been such an indication, but as a result of the "investigation" the guilt was proved. Well, after 1953, all the blame was thrown on Stalin - after all, the dead will not prove anything
  43. L. konstantin
    +3
    11 December 2011 20: 48
    not ** ren shorter here to procrastinate STALIN! zae ** whether! you didn’t live there and now you don’t wash his bones! if it weren’t for him, you wouldn’t be right now! and there would be a desert! with nuclear winter
  44. colonel
    0
    12 December 2011 00: 22
    I.V. Stalin:
    "Many deeds of our party and people will be perverted and spat upon, first of all abroad, and in our country too. Zionism, striving for world domination, will brutally take revenge on us for our successes and achievements. It still considers Russia as a barbaric country, as a raw material appendage.

    I know that after death a lot of garbage will be put on my grave. And my name will also be defamed, slandered. Many crimes will be attributed to me. But the wind of History will mercilessly dispel it.

    World Zionism will by all means strive to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The edge of the struggle will be aimed primarily at breaking this friendship, opening the outskirts of Russia. Here, I must admit, we have not done everything yet. There is still a big field of work.
    Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise. Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.
    In general, in the future development will go more complex and even frantic ways, the turns will be extremely steep. The point is that the East will be particularly upset. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.
    And yet, no matter how the events develop, time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the deeds and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come. They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due. They will build their future on our past "

    (I.V. Stalin. From a recording of a conversation with A. Kollontai)
  45. +1
    13 December 2011 01: 07
    December 5 - 75 years of the Constitution of 36 of the year. Nice to read. http://www.tarasei.narod.ru/konst1936.htm
  46. +2
    14 December 2011 23: 41
    I think the dispute is easy to resolve. We take our time and our country. Everything is thoroughly corrupt and the most common scumbags are in power. Imagine that you are personally the president and you know that in 3-4 years the Russian Federation will be attacked in order to seize resources and slaughter our rebellious people. Under these "managers" from EdRa, the country has a skiff, so these "managers" are firmly on the NATO hook, they all have compromising evidence over the hill. During the war, these managers will create chaos on the communication routes, cut off electricity, supply unusable ammunition, and morally corrupt the people. You understand that you need to do the cleansing, but you also understand that the same YedRosov managers from the NKVD-MIA-FSB will start doing the same cleansing. And while you there figure out the traitors among these cleaners (that is, you will not see their sabotage on real facts) and you clean up these "cleaners" yourself (as Stalin cleaned out Yagoda and Yezhov, but they had already managed to destroy a lot of real officers), they (the cleaners) will have time to bang a lot of loyal and good people!
    So - you understand that a bunch of innocents will sit down (because this is the order that will be given from abroad to these "cleaners" from the NKVD-KGB-FSB), that for this they can throw mud at you after your death, but you have only two exit - either go to these purges, or leave everything as it is, be pretty, lose this war in advance, while realizing that the West will clean up ALL YOUR PEOPLE. Let each of you make a choice for himself. For Stalin, he or for Tolerastiya.
    And there will be no other options. If a bureaucrat from Russian Railways works west, then no matter what your special forces are, it is important that he remains without ammunition. Remember the 1 Chechen and say that I'm wrong.
    Let everyone put himself in the place of Stalin and lose such a scenario in his head.
  47. -1
    16 December 2011 01: 31
    I look at Stalin's opponents there is nothing special to say. So I, too, at one time "sat on ..opu" when Stalin found fault and they asked me to put myself in his place. I believe that Russia should still officially refuse to denigrate his name and recognize his merits. And also not to confuse Stalin and Lenin - they are completely opposite personalities with completely different goals.
  48. Terminator
    0
    21 December 2011 19: 10
    Today is Stalin's birthday! Congratulations to all Russians!
  49. dmitri077
    -2
    29 January 2012 18: 07
    "Today is Stalin's birthday! Congratulations to all Russians!" - the main cry in a psychiatric hospital in modern Russia lol
  50. Georg Shep
    0
    29 February 2012 01: 08
    The most monstrous and brutal crime of Stalin and the entire communist system is not 37 years and not concentration camps throughout the country, but the physical destruction of the Russian peasantry 1929-1932. In the icy steppes of Kazakhstan and in the North, millions of our ancestors - the most zealous and economic Russians, together with their families - children and the elderly - died the backbone of the nation, the salt of the Russian land, died a fierce death. And this planned and large-scale communist crime of destroying our gene pool will never be erased from the human memory, from the Russian soul.
  51. -1
    16 March 2012 04: 46
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Everything borders on anarchy, but I want monarchy and dialectics, under the flag of the father of the people - the Tsar.

    I support you with both hands!!!
  52. slava.iwasenko
    0
    5 January 2013 01: 07
    Long live I.V. Stalin !!!
    1. 0
      2 May 2019 02: 50
      The Testament of Stalin

      "After my death, a lot of rubbish will be placed on my grave, but the time will come and sweep it away. I have never been a real revolutionary, my whole life is an ongoing struggle against Zionism, the goal of which is to establish a new world order under the rule of the Jewish bourgeoisie ... To achieve this, they need to destroy the USSR Russia, destroy the Faith, turn the Russian sovereign people into Rootless cosmopolitans.

      Only the Empire can oppose their plans. If it doesn’t exist, Russia will perish, the World will perish. Stop utopias. It’s impossible to invent anything better than a monarchy, which means it’s not necessary. I always worshiped the genius and grandeur of the Russian tsars. We cannot go anywhere from autocracy. But the dictator should be replaced by an autocrat. When the time comes.

      The only place on earth where we can be together is Russia. Reforms are inevitable, but in due time. And these should be reforms - organic, evolutionary, based on traditions, with a gradual restoration of Orthodox self-consciousness. They are based on realism and common sense. Very soon, wars for territories will be replaced by "Cold" wars - for Resources and Energy. You need to be prepared for this. Mastering new types of energy should be a priority for our scientists. Their success is a guarantee of our independence in the future. An army can be strong only when it enjoys the exceptional care and love of the people and government. This is the greatest moral strength of the army, the guarantee of its invincibility. And the army must be loved and cherished!

      I'm lonely. Russia is a colossal country, and around not a single decent person the Old Generation is completely infected with Zionism, all our hope for youth. The time has come to announce a new crusade against the international, and only the new Russian Order will be able to head it, the creation of which must be started immediately. Remember: the world does not need a strong Russia, no one will help us, you can only rely on your own strengths

      I think that the order should be given a name - the Order of Alexander Nevsky with the motto: God is not in power, but in Truth

      About the tasks of the Russian Order
      The main and determining this unification of all forces in the struggle is for Great Russia
      - Education of the management elite.
      - Propaganda of patriotism, the Russian national idea, the truth of history, the defense of Orthodoxy
      - Preparation of conditions for the restoration of the Russian Empire and autocracy
      - The fight against Masonic and Zionist influence in Russia, - its extermination
      - The dominant role of the Russian people - foreigners and Gentiles must know their place
      - Nomination of your Tsar from the Russian Order - when the time comes

      What should be a member of the Russian Order? Loyal to the Russian idea, to love the truth, to believe in success, courageous, responsible, obligatory, modest, sober and wise do not need to know much, you need to understand a lot of disciplined, able to keep a secret. Communist Party members are not capable of this. This party has ceased to be Russian. Attitude to the Russian Order should be conspiratorial, until the time comes when it is time to open up in the face of world evil
      I did what I could, I hope you do more and better
      Be worthy of the memory of our great ancestors

      January-February 1953. Joseph Stalin.

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