Vitko: this year Black Sea people will receive two submarines and two patrol ships

The two newest diesel-electric submarines and two sentries will receive the Black Sea Fleet in 2016 g, RIA News commander's message fleet Alexandra Vitko.

“This year we get two submarines, two patrol ships. If earlier we talked about the arrival of new technology as a distant future, now it is already present. Honestly, now we have a difficulty recruiting crews for these new ships ",

told Vitko.

According to him, the Day of Defender of the Fatherland in Sevastopol is “combined with the campaign for the recruitment of servicemen for contract service”.

The representative of the Black Sea Fleet, Vyacheslav Trubachev, explained to the agency that “Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen will send the guard ships to 2016”.

“As for the submarines, the Novorossiysk and Rostov-on-Don are already here, and the next ones, the Old Oskol and Krasnodar, are supposed to arrive this year, the crews are already undergoing training,” he added.

“Two small rocket ships with Caliber complexes, Serpukhov and Zeleny Dol, were received by the Black Sea RF this year, with the second ship performing operational tasks in the Mediterranean these days,” Trukhachev recalled.

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[Civil]

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

I am glad that the military-industrial complex is not idle and there are orders for years to come!

[cniza]

Quote: Civil

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

It is clear that more, but at least something, there should be six in all.

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Civil

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

I remembered a story about Khrushchev when the military offered to surpass America in armaments.
Khrushchev then answered - Why, why would they see our bare ass?
In general, there is truth here, weapons are needed, but not at all costs.

[MASK]

Quote: Civil

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

Everything has its time! The main thing is not quantity, but quality ... hard now.

[Giant thought]

With a slight delay, the replenishment at the Black Sea Fleet will nevertheless come, I hope that in the next years the replenishment of warships of the Black Sea Fleet will go on schedule.

[dmi.pris1]

It all depends only on ourselves .. Let's move on from victorious media reports on import substitution to real cases — there will be ships.

Quote: Civil

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

[Denis Obukhov]

Here Sergey Kuzhugetovich made friends))) How now Ukrainians will introduce a sea blockade?
Everyone urgently knit rafts and buy boats (if anything, the brothers from Somalia will help)! Sala Ukraine!))))

[Nahum]

It seems to me that the time has come to recreate the Azov Flotilla! The sea (the Meotian Swamp) has long ceased to be our inland. High-speed missile boats would not be in the way, well and so, something with a small dive. Of course, I’ve been entranced as a couch (the admiral - all the more), but I cheer for Russia))) We must do everything that m. useful to her.

[Denis Obukhov]

And where will Gorshkov go interesting? Also have to accept this year. The armament will be more generous than the ships of the project 11356 Essen and Grigorovich. Apparently the watchmen decided to leave the Black Sea Fleet (frigates) only to project 11356. But also not bad. For two years, 6 new with UKKS Caliber.

[Homo]

Quote: Civil

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

What problems, get involved. Find money, build factories, roll up your sleeves and build 100500 combat units in a year. Weak? Then do not shake the air with useless words.

[midivan]

More is needed, so we are late with the replacement ...

Honestly, now we are facing difficulties in recruiting crews for these new ships, ”

not behind the hill to recruit teams, everything is good in moderation

[P81]

Reinforcements URA !!!) Our fleet is of course ancient in terms of surface ships, we need to urgently and efficiently update!

[ALABAY45]

Well, how, ancient ?! I think that after the "calibration" of the Middle East, NATO admirals will not join your opinion ...

[Mista_dj]

The Black Sea Fleet, and the Caspian Flotilla, didn’t mock caliber.
Now, the Black Sea squadron needs to be urgently updated.
Turks with mattresses - generally do not see the coast (((

[Wiruz]

The Black Sea Fleet, and the Caspian Flotilla, didn’t mock caliber.

Sit down, Dmitry, deuce.
Black Sea Fleet also bearded Caliber fry. To be more specific, the Rostov-on-Don submarine, making the transition to the Black Sea, released 4 missiles from its underwater position. May Google come with you!

[Mista_dj]

You are not setting the deuce, Alex.
And google you rendered a disservice ...
Need to read - Navy Charter, everything is written there!
"Rostov-on-Don" at the time of the inter-naval transition and stay in the Mediterranean - was attached and was part of the "formation of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean."
This is a very important nuance in the context of the situation around the Crimean Peninsula.

It is related to the Black Sea Fleet upon completion (!) Of the inter-naval transition.
So the Black Sea Fleet did not dare, neither formally nor actually)
I ask you to learn the mat.chast!

[Chief Officer]

Hmm ...
But this is true!
At the time of the transition, the boat was indeed assigned to the "Mediterranean Squadron" ...
And it turns out that the Black Sea Fleet is not at work)))
And there are no problems with the passage of the straits, the Turks would have wanted to, so there’s nothing to cling to)

[Don36]

Personally, I am waiting for the transfer to the Russian Black Sea Fleet of the newest corvette `` Agile '', which they promise to complete and transfer to the fleet in 2017. This ship is armed with missiles (2 * 4 ,, Caliber ''), has modern air defense systems (16 missiles of the air defense missile system ,, Redoubt ''), anti-aircraft weapons (Packet-NK) and artillery (1 - 100 mm AU A-190 (332 shots) and 2 six-barreled 30 mm AU AK-630 (6000 shots)). In the video, the Guardian corvette "Savvy" of the Baltic Fleet of Russia, armed with missiles

[Wiruz]

Personally, I am waiting for the transfer to the Russian Black Sea Fleet of the newest corvette `` Agile '', which they promise to complete and transfer to the fleet in 2017. This ship is armed with missiles (2 * 4 ,, Caliber ''), has modern air defense systems (16 missiles of the air defense missile system ,, Redoubt ''), anti-aircraft weapons (Packet-NK) and artillery (1 - 100 mm AU A-190 (332 shots) and 2 six-barreled 30 mm AU AK-630 (6000 shots)). In the video, the Guardian corvette "Savvy" of the Baltic Fleet of Russia, armed with missiles

The future of project 20385 is generally foggy. Recently, someone on the site stuttered, they say, the Thundering will be completed in half with grief, and the Agile one will either go into a deep unfinished building, or even be taken apart

[Don36]

If someone stutters, then this is not treated, and on the corvettes of project 20385 they will simply install domestic diesel engines, instead of the planned German ones, as on the original project 20380

[Wiruz]

If someone stutters, then this is not treated, and on the corvettes of project 20385 they will simply install domestic diesel engines, instead of the planned German ones, as on the original project 20380

Yeah. Only so that you know, the MO rejected the further construction of the 20385 series! Like, the price is too high for such a performance characteristics. Like, UKKS with Caliber and Onyxes are not needed on the corvette (although, IMHO, PLURs are very necessary on the corvette), but instead of such a corvette, frigate pr.11356 can be bought for almost the same money.
And now the question is: will separate engines for two corvettes be developed ???

ZY: Yes, and stuttering is completely treatable. I know for myself

[Don36]

The fact is that all the corvettes of project 20385, the construction of which has already begun, are being completed, but my fantasies are not of interest to me. Disputes about what the Russian fleet should be like all the time, but to start building ships, and then not finish building them, is a crime, It’s necessary to judge for this. Such was the case in the 90s, money was spent, but there were no ships, because supposedly everyone was friends, but reality put everything in its place.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Wiruz

The future of project 20385 is generally foggy. Recently, someone on the site stuttered, they say, the Thundering will be completed in half with grief, and the Agile one will either go into a deep unfinished building, or even be taken apart

The main engines of the Kolomensky Zavod production will begin to arrive at the Shipyard in the first quarter of 2016. Their delivery is carried out as part of the import substitution program - MTU (Germany) engines had previously been installed on the corvettes of this series under the project. Now Almaz Central Design Bureau, the project developer, is completing its adjustment taking into account the replacement of engines and their manufacturer. For the Kolomensky Zavod, this type of engine is serial, it has made a number of improvements in terms of operational characteristics, including increased reliability.

Now "Thundering" the foundation is being processed for the main engines. A corps and a superstructure are formed at the corvette, mechanisms and equipment are mounted, priming and insulation of the premises are carried out. By the end of the first quarter, shipbuilders plan to begin electrical work. The launching of the ship and the start of testing will take place in 2017.

In total, four corvettes are under construction at the Severnaya Verf: two (“Thundering” and “Agile”) - under project 20385 and two (“Retrieval” and “Strict”) - under the improved project 20380. On Agile in the coming months, the formation of the corps will be completed. Also this year it is supposed to complete the formation of buildings two corvettes of the project 20380, their delivery to the Navy is planned in 2018.

[Wiruz]

KnightRider thank you I want to believe that I was wrong

[Manul]

Quote: Don36

artillery (1 - 100 mm AU A-190 (332 shots)

Maybe there are marine technicians here, many times have asked about this "hose". It is clear that it is for cooling the barrel, but the question is insanely tormented, why is it not done in the form of an additional casing? What if he will interrupt with fragments? All the same, metal will be more reliable ..
PS Oops. Seems to understand. An additional casing will require thermal insulation, with the previous one (probably supplying (and not vice versa) liquid, I assume) that will outrageously affect the final diameter of the barrel. I hope I just didn’t say utter stupidity that they would expel me from here And then the temperament of the comrades is hot. Especially on thematic (native) articles.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Mista_Dj

The Black Sea Fleet, and the Caspian Flotilla, didn’t mock caliber.

Do not get excited! pl "Rostov-on-Don" from Mediterranean, but from the underwater position, also pleased the bearded with its calibers. She is part of the 4th separate submarine brigade of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy. The second ship of project 636.3 "Varshavyanka".
December 8 2015 from a submarine from the Mediterranean Sea to the location of ISIS militants in Syria were hit by Caliber-PL cruise missiles from an underwater position

[Mista_dj]

"Rostov-on-Don" at the time of its stay in the Mediterranean - was part of the "formation of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean", and not a combat unit of the Black Sea Fleet.
She had an attitude to the Black Sea Fleet at the end of the inter-naval transition.
So the Black Sea Fleet - did not dare, neither formally nor actually)))

[Mista_dj]

The Black Sea Fleet, and the Caspian Flotilla, didn’t mock caliber.
Now, the Black Sea squadron needs to be urgently updated.
Turks with mattresses - generally do not see the coast (((

[Wiruz]

Reinforcements URA !!!) Our fleet is of course ancient in terms of surface ships, we need to urgently and efficiently update!

Hooray? Well, if you consider that, according to the signed contracts, until December 31, 2015, the Black Sea Fleet was supposed to receive six frigates pr.11356 (the last one was not laid down) and the same number of submarines pr.636, then this is more likely not a "hurray", but "a peremog ". Chi "zrada"? Who is your mind?

[gispanec]

Quote: Wiruz

Well, given that according to the contracts concluded, by December 31, 2015 the Black Sea Fleet was to receive six frigates pr.11356

sit down)) you are the same deuce ... do not read Wikipedia .... there is so much foolishness that you can drown ... 6 TFRs should have arrived before 31.12.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX !!! ... and then like Sialex .. so what? but what if?!!

[Wiruz]

Well ... I won’t argue, but for some reason it was always said about six frigates until 2016, and not until the end of 2016

[Stirbjorn]

They promised to accept Grigorovich in August last year from the beginning, and Essen until the end of 2015. These are data for the beginning of 2015. So, I absolutely see no reason for optimism. This year they promise to surrender Makarov, but January was already marked by a deadline

[Simon]

Beauty, our Black Sea Fleet is being strengthened! Let the Turks choke on their saliva!

[novobranets]

And how are things at the Pacific Fleet? I have not heard for a long time that something new would be sent there. Everything goes to the Black Sea and the Baltic. As if the skew did not come out.

[Wiruz]

On the Pacific Fleet full ... gluteus maximus
Three corvettes pr.20380 are being built, of which one seems to be transferred to the fleet before the end of the year. As for the new bookmarks, it’s still dull, it’s understandable - there are no engines. Perhaps the second pair of Project 22350 will go to the Pacific Fleet, but it will not be soon.

[cap]

The news came just in time for the holiday. Good news.
23.02.2016, 19: 42
In 2016, the Russian Black Sea Fleet will be armed with two diesel-electric submarines and two patrol ships. This was announced by the fleet commander, Admiral Alexander Vitko.
“This year we get two submarines, two patrol ships. If earlier we talked about the arrival of new technology as a distant future, now it is already the present. Honestly, now we are facing difficulties in recruiting crews for these new ships, ”RIA Novosti quotes the admiral.
The Black Sea Fleet will include the Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen patrol ships, as well as the Stary Oskol and Krasnodar submarines. It is also planned that later on the fleet will include the Admiral Makarov patrol ship.
Original news RT in Russian:
https://russian.rt.com/article/150239

[Wiruz]

But shouldn't Admiral Makarov be handed over before the end of the year? He seems to begin testing in March, then the Gos are just around the corner. The ship is serial, so for a long time I think it will not be delayed. According to the idea, by the end of the year they promised to introduce

[gispanec]

Quote: Wiruz

He seems to begin testing in March, then the Gos are just around the corner. The ship is serial, so for a long time I think it will not be delayed

if in this betray, then what will be transmitted in the next ?? ... only 2 submarines ?? ... not das ist buzzing ...

[Sars]

Please note: problems with personnel in the Navy (VKS- the same). An urgent need to resolve issues with the staff given the plans for the development of the army.

[Mountain shooter]

Little, little ... Although, after the Crimea, a powerful fleet in the Black Sea is already like that, that ... And there is no need. It’s enough to compensate the Turks, but there is nobody else there. And not foreseen. You have to stand in the Mediterranean Sea - this is an obvious fact.

[Wiruz]

You have to stand in the Mediterranean Sea - this is an obvious fact.

Well, you must admit that it is easier to go to the Mediterranean from the Black Sea than from the North. Therefore, to replenish the Black Sea Fleet with powerful ships, including 22350 / 22350M, it is simply necessary for actions within the Mediterranean compound

[gispanec]

Quote: Wiruz

Well, agree that it’s easier to go to the Mediterranean from the Black Sea than from the North

simpler is simpler ....., but it happened that the straits will be closed ... along with the fleet ... 6 Warsaw women + Alrosa, 6 (3 in fact) skr11356 ..., rk Moscow ( after the modif) well, RTOs, MPCs of 8 each ... and the old people shouldn’t be in a hurry to write off ... just don’t let them go further than black .. plus the UDC, and better a couple ... well, a couple of new frigates 22350 .. .betterly 6 ... oh dreams ... dreams ..

[Don36]

Project 22350 is crude, the transfer of the lead frigate `` Admiral Gorshkov '' to the fleet is constantly disrupted due to the unavailability of weapons systems. First, it was necessary to bring the weapon to mind, and then build a ship for it. For such art, the perpetrators must be brought to court.

[Wiruz]

So like Redoubt already shot. Moreover, sometimes even hit the target. No? Or problems with headlights?

[Don36]

The Redoubt air defense system is not one system, it is a complex of short, medium and long-range missiles. Short-range missiles are 100% ready, but everything else is questionable. Long-range missiles are not ready at all, they are completely raw and how much more will be required on their fine-tuning and whether they will be brought at all, this is a big question.

[Wiruz]

And what exactly do you mean by long-range missiles? Just some say that some 9m96m2, it is 9m96d, hits as much as 200-250 km. Others, in general, say that it is possible to put one 48th or 4 9m96m into the cell of Redoubt. Enlighten please

[Don36]

Now I don't remember the details with the names of the missiles, you have to surf the Internet, but the fact is that they wanted to make the air defense missile launcher on the frigate Admiral Gorshkov universal so that it could use a set of long, medium and short-range missiles, series, , Redoubt. "Today, only short-range missiles are ready, the readiness of medium-range missiles, in various sources, was estimated at 40-60%, long-range missiles are not ready at all, they are completely raw and all their firing did not end well. The frigate is armed only with air defense systems. short-range, it's fun to chickens, that's why the transfer of the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" to the fleet is delayed, although, perhaps, there are other problems. There was a problem with the artillery system of the main caliber 130 mm, but now they write that it has been solved.

[gispanec]

Quote: Don36

There was a problem with the artillery system of the main caliber of 130 mm, but now they write that it is solved.

the art was solved last year ... it remains to learn how to fly and direct the polymer-redoubt ... and of course the gas turbine ... that's really the most painful place ... Kolomensk-Rybinsk ...- stand-1 year of running-in improvements - in short, by the 20th year the first one may come out ... not earlier ... I can put a bottle (liter) of sanctioned viskar)) bets are accepted ... the referee needs))

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

There are factories in Crimea, for the Black Sea Fleet it is necessary to build warships on the peninsula. So to say on their own and the fleet replenish the Crimeans.

[Wiruz]

But what is left of these plants after 20 years of "happiness" under the zhovto-blakit flag?

[Hooks]

"Vitko: the Chernomorites this year will receive two submarines and two guard ...". And more likely someone else would have received from these devices!

[Knight Rider]

And BDK Ivan Gren, which fleet will go to?

[Wiruz]

At first they promised that at the Black Sea Fleet, then they began to talk about the Northern Fleet. As for me, so on the Black Sea it is now needed.

Although in general BDK pr.11711 is a stillborn project, outdated even before the start of construction

[Don36]

The BDK Ivan Gren was built for the Northern Fleet, at least this is the official information. Now the ship has been built and is undergoing mooring tests.

[Knight Rider]

And on the news they said that Makarov will be accepted this year

[Don36]

According to official data, the frigates of Project 11356, Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen are undergoing final state tests, and the frigate of the same type, Admiral Makarov, has been launched and is being completed afloat.

[Aandrewsir]

The Black Sea Fleet simply needs to be strengthened. Otherwise, Turkey is "Erdoganit" nearby!

[proud]

First let them hand over, and then they will report back. You can promise anything, and then - I am neither I nor the hut! We got already empty chatter!

[morprepud]

... two small missile ships with Kalibr complexes

- words are modest, BUT after these very "modest Calibers" they banged at the Syrian Majahideen, and slipped unnoticed through Iraq or Iran (?), and without deviating from the course (no more than 5 m!) ... So, the world community also needs regret with such expressions.
PS Yes, by the way, the "polite" also walked modestly across the Crimea! And they were not rude, and did not swear ... But they were simply offering, probably, to accept consent to a peace treaty?
HAPPY DAY OF DEFENDERS OF RUSSIA, gentlemen of the WAR !!!

[V.Kazakov]

I am very old. Will I wait until the destroyer is introduced into the fleet?

[Wiruz]

And I'm young, but I think about the same

Hmmm, but in 2011 we were told that in 2013 we can start building AV

[Spartanez300]

Without qualified sailors, ships are a useless heap of iron, though the iron is of good quality.

[Zomanus]

Damn, one Pacific Fleet against this background looks like an orphan.
But we also have a movement here.
Yapas with whales and minke whales, yunks launch different rockets ...
So we also need an update.

[alexmach]

Quote: cniza

It is clear that more, but at least something, there should be six in all.

must было be six ...