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Media: the new Chinese radar will track "even the most invisible American aircraft"

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The new Chinese radar, which is being built on the island of the disputed archipelago, will allow you to track any American aircraft, writes columnist Dave Majumdar in The National Interest.


Media: the new Chinese radar will track "even the most invisible American aircraft"


"China, in all likelihood, is building a new high-frequency radar on one of the artificial Spratly islands, which will allow Beijing to track even the most invisible US military aircraft, including Lockheed Martin's F-22 Raptor and F-35 Spirit and even Northrop Grumman's B-2 Spirit ", - quotes the browser RIA News.

Earlier on the construction of the island, allegedly, high-frequency radar reported authoritative research center "Center for Strategic and International Studies".

“The so-called high-frequency radars use wavelengths up to a meter, which makes it possible to see any aircraft using stealth technology. The size of all operating stealth aircraft of the US Air Force is large enough so that they are not detected by high-frequency radar, ”writes Majumdar.

In the event of hostilities, the Americans will have to destroy such radars, “before launching rockets around China,” the author concludes.
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  1. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 24 February 2016 17: 43
    24
    It is time for China to fill out the second island for an installation that will shoot down the most invisible US aircraft, then the third for an installation that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft into smartphones for sale in the United States.
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 24 February 2016 17: 48
      37
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      then a third for a facility that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft
      for pouring the fourth! then the fifth ... until they reach the states on foot like ants, in a string. billion. With nun chucks laughing
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 24 February 2016 17: 53
        +5
        Quote: Pravdarm
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        then a third for a facility that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft
        for pouring the fourth! then the fifth ... until they reach the states on foot like ants, in a string. billion. With nun chucks laughing

        It’s a pity not to correct, it is correctly said - logic !!!
        1. st25310
          st25310 24 February 2016 18: 45
          +1
          And the most invisible Russians will also track?
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 24 February 2016 21: 42
            +3
            There are no absolutely "invisible" aircraft. They will be detected only at a shorter range. And the VHF radar, I think, is even more effective. The fulfillment of the combat mission of detection and guidance depends on the sensitivity of the radar receiver, power, their optimal settings, preparation of calculations, etc. And radars of the centimeter range have the best characteristics in terms of resolution and determination of precision parameters.
          2. RUSIVAN
            RUSIVAN 24 February 2016 22: 24
            +8
            Recently, Ukrainians have mastered the advanced technology "STELS"; their planes have not been seen for a long time ...
            1. poquello
              poquello 24 February 2016 22: 34
              +1
              Quote: RUSIVAN
              Recently, Ukrainians have mastered the advanced technology "STELS"; their planes have not been seen for a long time ...

              Why do you stipulate them? Dill has invisible special forces technology.
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      3. Wheel
        Wheel 24 February 2016 18: 37
        +8
        Again Mujamur - the most knowledgeable ykperd!
        Well, everything knows everything! laughing
        And even the fact that the meter range is high-frequency ... laughing
        Although for the radar, this frequency is low-frequency ...
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 25 February 2016 22: 22
          0
          After the English colonization, the Indians (many) in the genes settled slavish worship of white masters, to this day not weathered ...
      4. RUSIVAN
        RUSIVAN 24 February 2016 22: 22
        +1
        There for the fifth, it’s just that every Chinese needs five shovels to throw into the sea and Opa Island)
    2. poquello
      poquello 24 February 2016 17: 49
      +3
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      It is time for China to fill out the second island for an installation that will shoot down the most invisible US aircraft, then the third for an installation that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft into smartphones for sale in the United States.

      I just didn’t understand, and without the island the radar doesn’t work?
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 24 February 2016 17: 51
        +3
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        It is time for China to fill out the second island for an installation that will shoot down the most invisible US aircraft, then the third for an installation that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft into smartphones for sale in the United States.

        I just didn’t understand, and without the island the radar doesn’t work?

        Raise it higher ... Doesn’t work without smartphones. The circle should close.
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      3. Vita vko
        Vita vko 24 February 2016 18: 18
        +2
        Quote: poquello
        I just didn’t understand, and without the island the radar doesn’t work?

        It is even more incomprehensible why "build" a radar on the island? There may be a translation error and a position is being prepared for the deployment of the m-band radar. Although you don't even need to make slides for it, you need a flat surface. Such radars are usually deployed within 8 hours.
      4. cap
        cap 24 February 2016 18: 33
        +4
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        It is time for China to fill out the second island for an installation that will shoot down the most invisible US aircraft, then the third for an installation that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft into smartphones for sale in the United States.

        I just didn’t understand, and without the island the radar doesn’t work?


        Ten Chinese carry radar, the remaining one hundred million pour islands in front of them. And so on until America. laughing
        1. poquello
          poquello 24 February 2016 18: 38
          +1
          Quote: cap
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Mama_Cholli
          It is time for China to fill out the second island for an installation that will shoot down the most invisible US aircraft, then the third for an installation that will recycle the wreckage of these aircraft into smartphones for sale in the United States.

          I just didn’t understand, and without the island the radar doesn’t work?


          Ten Chinese carry radar, the remaining one hundred million pour islands in front of them. And so on until America. laughing

          it's time to map the depths around the US to watch
    3. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 24 February 2016 17: 49
      19
      It seems the victim of the exam wrote an article
      meter wavelengths have low frequencies and not high .....
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 24 February 2016 18: 23
        +3
        I also have the same question immediately arose
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 24 February 2016 18: 36
          +2
          writes columnist Dave Majumdar in The National Interest magazine.

          It seems the victim of the exam wrote an article
          Yes, he is from the slums! Volume of Unified State Examination and Presentation of IT! I read the letters NI probably_, I used the purely voice Google! laughing
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 24 February 2016 19: 42
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
        It seems the victim of the exam wrote an article
        meter wavelengths have low frequencies and not high .....

        Even meter stations need a microwave generator. From here such a thought fell upon the victim of the exam.
        1. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 25 February 2016 17: 20
          0
          Quote: Tusv
          Even meter stations need a microwave generator. From here such a thought fell upon the victim of the exam.

          an attempt to explain to the author what a "microwave generator" is will most likely lead to the fact that at best he will fall asleep deeply ...
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 24 February 2016 18: 10
      +3
      Media: the new Chinese radar will track "even the most invisible American aircraft"

      Work is underway to modernize the radar, which will allow you to see the most-most invisible aircraft. laughing
      What kind of nonsense in the name of the news?
      1. poquello
        poquello 24 February 2016 22: 56
        +1
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Media: the new Chinese radar will track "even the most invisible American aircraft"

        Work is underway to modernize the radar, which will allow you to see the most-most invisible aircraft. laughing
        What kind of nonsense in the name of the news?

        and in general, the Chinese said it was a lighthouse
        Last week, China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi repeated the president’s promise. He explained that the construction of the islands in the South China Sea is for civilian purposes and that atolls and weather observation buildings are being erected, not military facilities.

        The representative of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Hua Chuning, repeated the words of the boss, but added that in any case, China has the right to do what it wants on the artificial islands in the South China Sea, because its rights to them are not subject to discussion.

        http://expert.ru/2016/02/24/k-raketam-i-samoletam-v-yuzhno-kitajskom-more-dobavy
        atsya-radaryi /? 26121
    5. PKK
      PKK 24 February 2016 18: 26
      +3
      Missiles fall from above from a suborbital flight, and then the first ones burst in space, blinding radars. The island stations on anti-ship and aircraft are imprisoned.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 24 February 2016 19: 35
      +2
      Amerikosy hoped that soon the entire population of the Earth would become similar to the natives and would threaten theirs with supermachines with only sticks and stones. The darlings miscalculated soon you will be like a chimp from a palm tree !!!!
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 24 February 2016 19: 36
      0
      I look at their planes and am horrified .. such ugly irons launch into the sky .. and the names .. Raptor .. anyway, like a flying elephant ... It’s not strange that every hotman removes them from the blue space ..
    8. YARUSSIAN39
      YARUSSIAN39 24 February 2016 20: 52
      +1
      such islands would be useful to us too)
      1. Egen
        Egen 25 February 2016 06: 40
        +1
        Quote: RUSSIAN39
        such islands would be useful to us too)

        hmm, Jules Verne back in 186 .. which he wrote "The Floating Island". The same Chinese, if memory serves, developed such projects in the 80s. Several years ago I met a project of a floating island in the Internet, which does not care about the tsunami - it seems Japanese. What for then to fence a garden, in the sense of an island to build ... probably just garbage must be put somewhere))
  2. Giant thought
    Giant thought 24 February 2016 17: 46
    +1
    And with us, not entirely new radars see these so-called invisibles, so there is something to meet uninvited guests.
    1. Mixweb
      Mixweb 24 February 2016 17: 53
      +2
      Quote: Thought Giant
      And with us, not entirely new radars see these so-called invisibles, so there is something to meet uninvited guests.

      March 27 1999 of the year during the war in Yugoslavia, the invisible F-117 Night Hawk US Air Force aircraft was shot down by the old Pechora anti-aircraft missile system P-125. The first 5В27Д rocket, launched at the Kirov Plant named after the XX Party Congress in 1976, tore off the wing of the American fighter, the second hit the fuselage. Pilot Dale Zelko ejected, hid in the forest and a few hours later was evacuated by helicopter by American special forces.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 February 2016 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: Mixweb
        Pilot Dale Zelko catapulted, hid in the forest and a few hours later was evacuated by helicopter by American special forces.

        Worthy of imitation.
      2. Alexei
        Alexei 24 February 2016 18: 05
        +2
        Quote: Mixweb
        The US Air Force F-117 Night Hawk stealth plane was shot down by the old R-125 Pechora anti-aircraft missile system.

        You can’t shoot down American planes with such rubbish. We need to feel sorry for the nerves of the kitchen strategists who had long since scrapped Russian military equipment.
      3. Awaz
        Awaz 24 February 2016 18: 26
        +1
        here is the same factory of the 23th party congress, there is a modern Avitek and on its territory in one of the shops they built a site from Almaz Antey))), which we all read about on February XNUMX))))
      4. heccrbq8
        heccrbq8 24 February 2016 19: 26
        +1
        Do you know the difference in optical and radio guidance? Probably not ...
  3. gas113
    gas113 24 February 2016 17: 47
    +5
    High-frequency with a wavelength of several meters .....!? Who invented this? It always seemed to me that the higher the frequency, the shorter the wave ... Who knows?
    1. Nord2015
      Nord2015 24 February 2016 17: 51
      10
      Quote: gas113
      High-frequency with a wavelength of several meters .....!? Who invented this? It always seemed to me that the higher the frequency, the shorter the wave ... Who knows?

      The article very incorrectly indicates "high frequency radar" and then a wavelength of several meters. The higher the frequency, the shorter the wavelength. VHF radars see stealth aircraft. There are over-the-horizon radars that operate at fairly long wavelengths (at relatively low frequencies), but serve only for early warning, they cannot direct anti-aircraft missiles, since the accuracy will be plus or minus bast shoes.
      1. gas113
        gas113 24 February 2016 18: 57
        +1
        So my eyes were cut by "high-frequency with meter waves" absurdity or translation error
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 24 February 2016 18: 51
      +2
      Quote: gas113
      Who is in the know?

      On a phased array, you can play it.
      And so, in general, in old complexes, there is a survey radar from which you can’t hide because it works in the meter range and shows a healthy bast in the air in any way.
      And besides him, there is a guidance radar which, by itself, can .. let the plane go invisible (or maybe detect it if the calculation is correct), but if a signal was received from the surveillance radar, then the calculation knows for sure that the enemy’s bastion is in the air and anyone will find it and carry out guidance for the reflected signal, one hell changes.
      Death pin to pre-vultures.
    3. gas113
      gas113 24 February 2016 18: 54
      0
      Thanks for the info !!
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 24 February 2016 19: 19
        0
        Quote: gas113
        Thanks for the info !!

        Yes, I was also impressed.
        What was written there?
  4. Kent0001
    Kent0001 24 February 2016 17: 49
    +2
    Wipe down the Yankees. Your air superiority is illusory, and it is only in the minds of your "exceptional" warriors and the old senile McKenain. The whole long-term show-off from stealth technology is down the drain ... I'm already silent about our air defense forces ...
  5. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 24 February 2016 17: 49
    +4
    Well, the Chinese are just gushing, unfriendly steps towards the United States recently. I wonder how they will react? Sanctions? Or just threaten a finger?
    1. Blondy
      Blondy 24 February 2016 18: 52
      0
      Quote: Observer 33
      Well, the Chinese are just gushing, unfriendly steps towards the United States recently. I wonder how they will react? Sanctions? Or just threaten a finger?

      This is from Russia, except for the Soviet RD180 they have nothing to buy. With China you can’t spoil sanctions like that, not to mention any textiles with smartphones, the Chinese have bought many companies like DELL, and they have a trillion and a half US debts.
  6. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 24 February 2016 17: 53
    +4
    Damned Chinese in the United States had so many hopes for the F-35. laughing
    1. poquello
      poquello 24 February 2016 17: 59
      +2
      Quote: Primus Pilus
      Damned Chinese in the United States had so many hopes for the F-35. laughing

      they now have a different excuse - a common brain on all f35, it's like Lame have Kalenusians, bald as a knee
  7. corporal
    corporal 24 February 2016 17: 54
    +2
    In the event of hostilities, the Americans will have to destroy such radars “before launching missiles in China”
    But doesn’t the destruction of such a station mean the automatic launch of Chinese missiles in the USA?
  8. igorek4515
    igorek4515 24 February 2016 17: 56
    +5
    I wonder how they will react? Sanctions? Or just threaten a finger?

    To impose sanctions on China ..? this is unlikely .. Shtatniks are well aware of what this might turn out for them .. China has long been not a country that could be strangled by sanctions .. if even a country like North Korea cannot be strangled by sanctions, then China ..
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 24 February 2016 18: 09
      +1
      So here I am, about that. What should they do now ...?
  9. Sultan Babai
    Sultan Babai 24 February 2016 17: 56
    +2
    Only Americans believe in the impeccability of stealth technologies, the rest simply create the appearance that they believe ... And the king, as they say, is Naked !!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 February 2016 19: 08
      +2
      "the rest are just making it appear they believe." ////

      And for the "appearance that they believe" the rest have constructed and want to start
      production of a very expensive stealth fighter T-50 ... smile
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 February 2016 19: 50
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        designed and want to start
        production of a very expensive stealth fighter T-50 ...

        We don’t care what, we are not going to fight with China, so their radar is not terrible for us. laughing
      2. poquello
        poquello 24 February 2016 22: 15
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "the rest are just making it appear they believe." ////

        And for the "appearance that they believe" the rest have constructed and want to start
        production of a very expensive stealth fighter T-50 ... smile

        and what did you want, fashion is a cruel thing
      3. kush62
        kush62 25 February 2016 04: 47
        +2
        voyaka uh Yesterday, 19: 08 ↑ New
        "the rest are just making it appear they believe." ////

        And for the "appearance that they believe" the rest have constructed and want to start
        production of a very expensive stealth fighter T-50 ...

        Do not take other people's money. From your American friends we always expect only meanness.
  10. MASK
    MASK 24 February 2016 17: 57
    +2
    I think the Chinese are lying ... (again something was stolen ...)))
    1. cap
      cap 24 February 2016 18: 38
      +2
      Quote: MASK
      I think the Chinese are lying ... (again something was stolen ...)))


      They just "got it together" laughing .
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 24 February 2016 18: 03
    +3
    Now Obama will push speech and tear Chinese radars to shreds, like the Russian economy.
  12. Sergey333
    Sergey333 24 February 2016 18: 13
    +3
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    It’s time for China to fill in the second island, for the installation, which will shoot down the most invisible US planes,

    Pour right next to Miami to shoot down directly from the airfield laughing
  13. konetit
    konetit 24 February 2016 18: 16
    +3
    The Americans swelled so much money into their invisibility, and all of them are not lazy to see it.
    1. Egen
      Egen 25 February 2016 06: 34
      +1
      Quote: konetit
      The Americans swelled so much money into their invisibility, but they are seen by all and sundry

      why so! how was there a joke about a downed stealth over Yugoslavia?
      - "sorry bro didn't notice"))))
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 February 2016 18: 16
    +1
    Declare sanctions to China! Urgently! Yes, it’s the same as shooting yourself in the foot. No way. And who will dress, shoe and other all this endless camp of consumers under the striped flag? While there the Vietnamese with dancing unwind, break loose, the deprived laughing
  15. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 24 February 2016 18: 20
    +2
    I read who the author of this opus -Dave is a fly agaric smoker! Such nonsense is beyond human logic, and commenting on hallucinations is pointless.
  16. Hooks
    Hooks 24 February 2016 18: 21
    +1
    "Writing Columnist Dave Majumdar for The National Interest.
    Back in 1987, I read in "UT" (who remembers), for radars and "invisibility" - and how much has passed? The prize, as they say, to the studio:
  17. valent45
    valent45 24 February 2016 18: 22
    +1
    Everything is fine. It’s good that China is still in awe of Amer. The more Chinese islands, the better.
    Desirable chain across the Pacific to the US coast.
    1. KRIG55
      KRIG55 24 February 2016 18: 43
      +1
      Yeah, right across Japan with automatic takeover.
  18. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 24 February 2016 18: 40
    +1
    But if the plane is drawn on a piece of paper - the radar will still see it? wassat
  19. Mavric
    Mavric 24 February 2016 18: 46
    +1
    Maybe still a low-frequency radar (meter range), a high-frequency one is just well absorbed by the STELS coating (decimeter, centimeter range).
  20. Großer feldherr
    Großer feldherr 24 February 2016 18: 56
    +1
    Few people here understand the whole essence of the stealth technology, this is not an invisible hat at all and no one has ever demanded from such aircraft inconspicuous flights over the enemy's head, but unnoticed flying up to the missile launch distance is their vocation, which they are quite capable of, because high frequency radars do not have a high detection range.
    1. 1rl141
      1rl141 25 February 2016 00: 02
      +1
      Quote: Großer Feldherr
      because high-frequency radars do not have a high detection radius.


      What is considered a "high frequency radar"? And what about "low frequency"? And what is more "high-frequency" radar of the meter range or centimeter?
      I wonder for whom this Majmudar writes his opuses? For those who are like himself?
      Of course, we understand little about stealth technology, and we don’t need anything. We understand well in high-frequency and low-frequency radars. Oddly enough, for some reason they are all high-frequency for some reason.
      For a stealth specialist, a little reference.
      Radar 5n84 - station meter range. Wavelengths of the order of one meter. Easily detects aircraft at ranges of 500 km and above. Depending on the flight altitude, of course. Well, and also from other different factors.
      Radar 5n87 - station centimeter range. It is about 10 cm long. Detects aircraft at a range of about 400 km.
      For those with an armored train.
      The longer the wavelength, the lower the frequency of the transmitter. That is, 5n87 is more "high-frequency" radar than 5n84.
      And we don't care about these stealth technologies ... We have had "high-frequency" radars since the 60s.
  21. bad
    bad 24 February 2016 20: 54
    +1
    Quote: Wheel
    Again Mujamur - the most knowledgeable ykperd!
    Well, everything knows everything! laughing
    And even the fact that the meter range is high-frequency ... laughing
    Although for the radar, this frequency is low-frequency ...
    .. yeah .. he’s the smartest damn thing .. the main thing is to tear it off .. and it’s not necessary to wipe oneself ..
  22. Egen
    Egen 25 February 2016 06: 32
    +1
    Quote: Pravdarm
    for pouring the fourth! then the fifth ... until they reach the states on foot like ants, in a string. billion. With nun chakam

    ... remembered the school joke of the 70's:
    Announcement: Chinese astronaut in space !!
    - how did he get there, in China, after all, there are nothing missiles ?!
    - and so, go on to go on, go on to go and tama
    ))