Who teaches our children? Associate Professor, MGIMO: "NATO arose as a response to the Warsaw Pact"

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After the “Duel” program of Vladimir Solovyov’s “Duel” program on TV channel “Russia 1”, where Vladimir Zhirinovsky and Nikolai Zlobin opposed each other, the question arises: in our modern universities, “associate professor” is exactly an academic title and the corresponding position or all the same category from the immortal film "Gentlemen of Fortune" - a nickname? And this question arose by no means idle, because what sounded on the air of 18 in February reminds us of a real theater of the absurd.

Those readers who watched the next “Fight” broadcast, I think, immediately understood what was going on. Those who, for various reasons, did not see the ether with Vladimir Solovyov on the mentioned date, it is necessary to clarify what and how it was. In the TV program, as usual, the main characters in the studio presented their views on the situation in the modern world. In the course of the program, issues of opposition to NATO and Russia, the conduct of the counter-terrorist operation in Syria, geopolitical conjuncture, etc. were actively discussed.

After 56 minutes, the microphone was in the hands of the invited expert, whose comments made him doubt its expert adequacy and led to the appearance of the question that was identified at the very beginning of this material. The man who took the microphone in his hands (and this person turned out to be MGIMO associate Nikolay Topornin), with a clever air, he gave this, which, as they say, fit to precipitate. After a verbose reflection that the American coalition began its operation, although it was late, but still earlier than the Russian one, and that there is no point in supporting Bashar Assad in Syria, because, you see, they are not supported in the United States and the European Union, Mr. Topornin, addressing Vladimir Zhirinovsky, announced the following:

Why nobody goes for Russia, not a single country? You say that NATO surrounds the Russian Federation. I agree with you ... But, sorry, NATO arose as a response to the Warsaw Pact, and then the Warsaw Pact included many countries ...


Who teaches our children? Associate Professor, MGIMO: "NATO arose as a response to the Warsaw Pact"


SHTA ???

How, how, excuse me, dear Associate Professor of MGIMO, did the Western military bloc arise? How is the answer to the Warsaw Pact? .. This is “historical"Turn ... I would like to recall the statement of the well-known movie hero:" When you say, it seems that you are raving. "

For your information:

First. NATO is a military-political (as they call themselves) bloc of states of North America and Europe, whose creation began on 4 on April of 1949, and the expansion continues to this day.

Second. The Warsaw Pact Organization is a document that formalized the creation of the military-political union of the socialist countries of Europe, dated May 14 of 1955. The Warsaw Pact ceased to exist 1 July 1991 of the year.

The third. Nikolai Borisovich Topornin - an expert on financial, customs, budget and banking law of the European Union, EU and CIS integration, constitutional law of the Russian Federation. Candidate of Law, Associate Professor. Topornin delivers a course of lectures on EU banking law at MGIMO (University) of the Russian Foreign Ministry. He is the author of numerous scientific publications, heads the European Information Center, and serves as the head of research projects for undergraduates and graduate students. Graduate MGIMO. He has worked at the university for over 25 years.

From biography and “portfolio” Topornina: speaks English, French, Spanish and German. Trained and taught at European universities: Rotterdam (Netherlands), Brussels (Belgium), Frankfurt am Main (FRG), Osnabrueck (FRG), Berlin (FRG), Paris (France), etc. More than 15 worked in the information office for years Council of Europe as a director. He teaches at the departments of European and constitutional law MGIMO.

If a person who has graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in the country and, moreover, has worked in it for a quarter of a century, does not seriously know that the NATO military bloc was formed at 6 years before the Warsaw Treaty Organization (ATS), and that it was the ATS that was a rather late response to the creation of NATO , then for the future of Russian diplomacy it becomes, to put it mildly, alarming. After all, if Nikolai Borisovich Topornin is in a multimillion-dollar television audience, in which, as it happened, there are people with a knowledge of history, with an impenetrable look who is able to present a lie as a basis for discussion, then what does Mr. Associate Professor and Ph.D. in law teach his students who have chosen diplomatic service as one of the most important components of protecting the interests of the Fatherland? It can be assumed that at the lectures by Mr. Topornin, a parallel world reigns in which students are confident that NATO was formed “as an ATS response” and that NATO expansion today is a “protective measure against Russia's steps.” And the whole nightmare is that Associate Professor Topornin, who trained in various Russian and foreign universities, doesn’t teach at the school of the “God Kuzi” sect, but at MGIMO, the university that defines the face of Russian diplomacy and virtually the entire diplomatic school.

After Mr. Topornin’s statements, Zhirinovsky told the “Associate Professor”:
Do you even know what you are saying? NATO was created in 49, and in response to the creation of NATO in 55, we are creating a military bloc called the Warsaw Pact by place of creation. And you teach at MGIMO? !! I will call MGIMO - you are working there the last day. These are doctors of science, they teach our young people ... If a person teaches at MGIMO with such knowledge, then this is wildness.


Topornin mumbled that for such knowledge Zhirinovsky at MGIMO "would get a deuce". Two who? - Docent Topornin? ..

Of course, Zhirinovsky, as a politician, can be treated differently, but how to treat Mr. Topornin after that is the answer obvious ...

And for some reason, it seems that Associate Professor Topornin consciously said what he said - about NATO and ATS. In his mentioned parallel world, it should be considered that the West is trying to otbryvatsya from our "aggression", and graduates of the main institution of Russian diplomacy need to consider it so ... That is, future diplomats should, a priori interpretation, "repent for their actions "For NATO (according to Topornine) is a kind of sacrifice.

And how many more such candidates and doctors entrenched themselves in our universities? How many more “topornin” are trying to drive into the heads of modern students that they have nothing in common with Russian and world history, consciously replacing facts. The main question: for the sake of who is doing this? Awesome incompetence (if so, how such people go to universities), or still a thoughtful game of reformatting historical science, as a result of which, trying to not pay attention to this kind of "work", new kozyrevschina may appear in national diplomacy. And what is the cause of the kozyrevism - Russia has already experienced the full potential of itself.

PS Comments on the material about the program “Duel” on Facebook page are closed. Is the assistant professor trying to hush up? Not enough courage to speak and communicate with the audience at least in social networks? ..

Topornina Speech Begins About 56: 31 (Channel Material "Evening with Vladimir Solovyov"on YouTube):

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  1. +98
    25 February 2016 06: 11
    Everything is already clear from the photograph. Such experts now rule Ukrainians
    1. +173
      25 February 2016 06: 12
      Who teaches our children? Associate Professor, MGIMO: "NATO arose as a response to the Warsaw Pact"
      I have been waiting for this article for a long time ... there is an answer: for example, such as Nadezhdin (sorry to swear on the site), by the way, he was a member of the initiative group to nominate ex-Yukos head Mikhail Khodorkovsky for deputy, then as a prostitute he went from hand to hand (to the parties) of the Union of Right Forces , Just cause .. and still warmed up in the EP! in 2012 he was already an observer at the elections, and as they say, from Putin! and wants to join the Duma at 16! - he also teaches at the university, lectures at the Department of Law, created at the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT) .... what will he teach and what will he sow in the minds? we are at the "top", as if not everything is in order ...
      1. +146
        25 February 2016 06: 30
        By the way, I forgot one more pig face: Iosif Reichelgauz - Russian theater director, teacher; People's Artist of Russia (1999) Professor Russian University of Theatrical Art (GITIS), creator and artistic director of the Moscow theater "School of modern play" - rare
        1. +132
          25 February 2016 06: 37
          Topornin mumbled that for such knowledge Zhirinovsky at MGIMO “would have got a deuce”
          - from article

          But, probably, indeed, as Topornin hums, "Zhirinovsky would have received a deuce" in the current MGIMO.
          It seems that the case of the traitor to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Yeltsinoid period, Kozyrev, lives and wins in the preparation of MGIMO for future diplomats?
          Your affairs are sad Russia, the USE has sprouted in leading universities, among associate professors and doctors.
          1. +28
            25 February 2016 07: 42
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Topornin mumbled that for such knowledge Zhirinovsky at MGIMO “would have got a deuce”
            - from article

            But, probably, indeed, as Topornin hums, "Zhirinovsky would have received a deuce" in the current MGIMO.

            ... MGIMO?
            Moscow State ... Here it is - the key word: STATE! Here it is who needs it - the state!
            ... And which state? ...
            1. +45
              25 February 2016 09: 10
              Quote: CONTROL
              ... And which state?

              Apparently - we have two parallel states. Hostile to each other.
              1. +40
                25 February 2016 09: 19
                Quote: EvgNik
                Quote: CONTROL
                ... And which state?

                Apparently - we have two parallel states. Hostile to each other.

                Yes, everything is simple - at key universities, unions and groups of "young, promising ...", consulting commissions, advice on the development and analysis of something there ... and the like were created for "theirs grants"! With "their" money, of course - and with the prospects, with them, gentlemen - how can it be without prospects ... in Hawaii there, or in the Caribbean ... somewhere in the States or in London ...
                So - state, yes! but - not THIS state ... but THAT!
                ... yes, and Moscow today - as one rural peasant told me just now (the director of a bo-o-o-lsh agro-complex) - "the capital of our Motherland of theirs"! ...
                1. +44
                  25 February 2016 09: 55
                  I propose to throw off the world and start building the "Filosovsky steamer". Immerse all these assistant professors on it in bulk and send them to their beloved shores. You can consider the creation of a "Filosovskaya torpedo"
                  1. +57
                    25 February 2016 10: 29
                    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                    By the way, I forgot another pig's face: Yosif Rayhelgauz
                    Yeah! When I see this disgusting face, my spine quietly vomits! Solovyov is quietly registering on the side of the "liberals". I cannot listen to him. as well as Stankevich and others. "THESE".
                    1. +38
                      25 February 2016 14: 39
                      Solovyov is right in inviting such characters. People need to see the level of liberalistic "thinkers".
                      1. +11
                        25 February 2016 23: 27
                        And how many more of these candidates and doctors have been dug in our universities?

                        Aleksander Sergeevich Tsipko (August 15, 1941, Odessa) - Soviet and Russian social philosopher and political scientist. Chief Researcher at the Institute of International Economic and Political Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Doctor of philosophical science. One of the ideologues of "perestroika" (according to his own statement. Professional "Provocateur" - as K. Dolgov called him in one of the broadcasts.
                      2. +7
                        26 February 2016 11: 06
                        Strange as it may seem, modern provocateurs, scoundrels, Russophobes, who often occupy serious positions, come from the "Central Committee of the Komsomol". Tsipko from 1967 to 1970 worked in the propaganda department of the Central Committee of the Komsomol. One can immediately recall the Russophobes: Dalia Grybauskaite and the FDJ secretary of one of the scientific institutes of the Academy of Sciences of the former GDR, who is responsible for agitation and propaganda, Mrs. Angela Merkel. In the NSDAP "red" shape-shifters were called "steaks", there were also enough of them.
                      3. +4
                        26 February 2016 16: 26
                        There is nothing strange in this.
                        These are opportunists
                        In the USSR, they were in the Komsomol and the CPSU.
                        Power has changed, they are immediately reforged by a shement to the party of power.
                        Granny Merkel from such.
                        All the top of the border out of these.
                        And we have a lot of these.
                        I think now ideological less than sorry.
                      4. +2
                        26 February 2016 21: 03
                        Excuse me, but among the military, all sorts of Komsomol leaders may have been normal people. For civilians, all these liberated Komsomol secretaries of the late eighties are uniquely two-faced, cynical citizens. Here they have matured all these Tsypko, Yushchenko, Raykhelgauz by the way Yulia Timoshenko from among them. Many ... bad people crawled out of this "Komsomol" sinecure.
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                  2. +7
                    25 February 2016 12: 50
                    It’s better than the Filosovo barge. Then you don’t need a torpedo ...
                  3. +11
                    25 February 2016 14: 46
                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    Immerse on it in bulk all of these associate professors and send them to the shores of the heart of their hearts.

                    And if this "Titanic", well, quite by accident, does not arrive at the port of destination, then no one will become very sad. I definitely won't.
                    1. +3
                      26 February 2016 17: 54
                      Quote: novobranets
                      And if this "Titanic", n

                      It will certainly be a disaster, but not a tragedy ...
                2. +1
                  25 February 2016 12: 16
                  Quote: CONTROL
                  So - state, yes! but - not THIS state ... but THAT!

                  So I am about the same!
              2. -14
                25 February 2016 10: 57
                Moscow and zamkadysh, as I understand it?
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                2. +14
                  25 February 2016 11: 27
                  Quote: Baikonur
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  By the way, I forgot another pig's face: Yosif Rayhelgauz
                  Yeah! When I see this disgusting face, my spine quietly vomits! Solovyov is quietly registering on the side of the "liberals". I cannot listen to him. as well as Stankevich and others. "THESE".



                  And I think, let them stay.

                  They express their faces so expressively that they form the right attitude to what they are trying to impress on us.

                  The same Nadezhdin, constantly gets into the groove, after he delves into his tablet.

                  About Gozman - in general, words are difficult to find except for the mat.

                  Sometimes it seems that these characters were specially contracted as "antiheroes", to scare away the audience.




                  1. +8
                    25 February 2016 13: 27
                    Quote: bulvas
                    Sometimes it seems that these characters were specially contracted as "antiheroes", to scare away the audience.

                    And they are not trying for us. There are also teenagers who look "make life with someone." And they see the glossy facial expressions and other attributes of "successful people". It is not for nothing that at all times the people convicted of treason have ended quickly and publicly. So that there were no thoughts ...
                    1. +2
                      26 February 2016 18: 08
                      Only immediately after death, turn into a cruel dictator, like Stalin ... The whole point is that when you defend the interests of the country, it means that you must, no matter how you twist it, begin to eliminate "partners" in politics, or with the help of "philosophical steamers ", or even more radical measures .. the same GULAG, where they forced the resistance of the formation to work for this system. But then they will then bite the history of their country. They will start erecting monuments to the "innocent victims of repression". And we will begin with the priests at the head to sprinkle and cry on the graves of all Chikatils - physical perverts and political enemies. The main thing is to bring the thought into people's heads: before the law was wrong, which means that the modern law may not be correct, and then it is not necessary to observe it. Previously, the police were not correct, which means that the police should be despised and hated. There is an ancient rule: Law is law! And anyone who violates it must be punished. Anyone who opposes the law and pushes the country to collapse for the sake of another country is a "traitor to the Motherland" and an "enemy of the people." This is not an opposition that opposes the government at the level of the constitution and tries to do better for the people than the existing government, because if it does worse, it will never be able to win the elections.
                  2. +8
                    25 February 2016 13: 54
                    Quote: bulvas
                    Sometimes it seems that these characters were specially contracted as "antiheroes", to scare away the audience.

                    I will add the following to the list. gentlemen: Nikolai Uskov (historian, Russian version of Forbes), Dmitry Nekrasov (lawyer, politician), Vladimir Ryzhkov (historian, politician). The list that often flashes in the media space can be continued further, but this is not the point. You cannot drive them underground so that they arrange partisanship, and Russia received some regular "Magnitsky list" for violation of human rights. The country should know its heroes in the face. Again, it's easier to keep an eye on when they're in sight.
                    1. +5
                      25 February 2016 22: 07
                      Quote: marna
                      You can not drive them underground so that they organize partisans

                      Of course not. There they will be more crap than ever. Therefore, not underground, but in places of deprivation of liberty, for socially useful work, such as planting a forest, or building railways.
                    2. +3
                      26 February 2016 18: 11
                      Quote: marna
                      "Magnitsky's list",

                      and Makarevich ... it was necessary to appeal to the president of the country with a cry: "Order the people to stop hating me!" I screwed it up, I screwed it up.
                  3. 0
                    25 February 2016 14: 20
                    Quote: bulvas
                    Sometimes it seems that these characters were specially contracted as "antiheroes", to scare away the audience.

                    Oh how you underestimate them. They are often liked. And they often like their words. This is the horror.
                    1. +7
                      25 February 2016 17: 23
                      Quote: Villon
                      Quote: bulvas
                      Sometimes it seems that these characters were specially contracted as "antiheroes", to scare away the audience.

                      Oh how you underestimate them. They are often liked. And they often like their words. This is the horror.



                      To whom? Deaf? Blind? Weak-minded?

                  4. +3
                    25 February 2016 23: 38
                    FROM THE SOUL, AS FROM THE MARKET BUTTERFLIES - work out BUTTERFLIES!
              3. +4
                25 February 2016 22: 03
                Quote: EvgNik
                Quote: CONTROL
                ... And which state?

                Apparently - we have two parallel states. Hostile to each other.

                We have country (homeland) и state, which just exist in parallel, and sometimes hostilely.
              4. +4
                25 February 2016 22: 34
                Education is being destroyed and mutilated by young people with the help of super-paid rectors of Russian universities. The rector’s salary per month is approximately 5 years of the professor’s salary. Well, the specific selection of professors is determined by the task of Livanov. A lot of prokhendeyev from science divorced.
                1. 0
                  26 February 2016 23: 23
                  I listened to Doctor of Historical Sciences Lev Samuilovich Klein on TV about the history of Russia and realized that these were not mistakes, but a completely deliberate distortion of the truth.
                  From a distortion of Russian history to a distortion of the Russian language.
              5. +3
                26 February 2016 10: 13
                At us, Moscow State University has long been a hotbed of Russophobia, it is headed by Sadovnichy, a wild Russophobe, and the staff there is selected in the same spirit.
          2. +12
            25 February 2016 09: 06
            Apparently, a student like Sobchak (I studied there, probably from Topornin) from this leader!
          3. +10
            25 February 2016 10: 43
            Quote: vladimirZ
            USE has sprouted already
            Who is talking about what ... The reason is not in the USE, but in the "scientific" community, not in the Ministry of Education, but in the Russian Academy of Sciences. As long as there and in the councils "scientific" clans run, social science, or the science of man, we will name any nonsense. Therefore - even the exam, even the exam, even the interview, it makes no difference; they will benefit from everything at the expense of national science and education. The "sciences" about society and man themselves are today conglomerates, between which there is no scientific dialogue - discussion, but there is a secret struggle for funding, spheres of influence, etc. Scientists make business and career; Among the corporate interests of "scientific communities", the national interests of a country are a very rare phenomenon. They called this disgrace "multiparadigm".
          4. +16
            25 February 2016 14: 16
            You are more than right, let's see where the aforementioned 'associate professor' was trained - the brains were completely washed out. You know, how in Soviet times, the 5th KGB department recruited not everyone in a row as informers, they saw that there were people with a backbone and would not burn out with them. Also, the bourgeoisie "intern" only those who are ready to share.
            I hope Volfovich will figure it out, must save the students from this nonsense. This 'docent' prepares the next generation of "trainees" in principle enemies
            1. +1
              25 February 2016 21: 50
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              let's see where the aforementioned 'docent' interned - the brains were completely washed

              But were there any brains?
          5. +6
            26 February 2016 01: 13
            Drive this dog from MGIMO to the neck!
            1. +1
              26 February 2016 18: 19
              Probably it is necessary to abolish the salaries of all professors and associate professors: they must have income from the press and from their inventions. Students must choose for themselves which assistant professor they will pay money for knowledge, and life itself should take exams. Invented - patented, received money. There is no money from the patent - make suitcases like Mendeleev and with a suitcase to the market, for money for bread and butter.
          6. +2
            26 February 2016 06: 03
            It seems that the case of the traitor to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Yeltsinoid period, Kozyrev, lives and wins in the preparation of MGIMO for future diplomats?
            Fortunately, there are still more adequate in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs than "associate professors"
          7. 0
            26 February 2016 06: 03
            It seems that the case of the traitor to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Yeltsinoid period, Kozyrev, lives and wins in the preparation of MGIMO for future diplomats?
            Fortunately, there are still more adequate in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs than "associate professors"
            1. 0
              26 February 2016 18: 31
              Quote: 72jora72
              Fortunately adequate in the Foreign Ministry

              I really doubt it: remind us how we have been brainwashed for many years since 2012? Who was not involved in the debate: print, television. All the schemes were drawn: the planets will line up in the Great Parade of the Megagalaxy and the cranks - the planet Earth, as the last in the parade chain, will turn over under the influence of gravity. But as soon as I wrote that in December our planet will not be able to end up at the end of the parade of planets, since in December it will be in front of the Sun, not behind it ... This is the simplest knowledge of astronomy! They can be found on the Internet ... where were all these adepts that did not stop profanation? I’ll tell you where, on the other side of the Internet, and they were pumping money from this excitement. By the fact that these docents pour into our ears: then they tear me up, they throw them, they throw them, and they give us "Vanya, I am yours forever."
        2. +32
          25 February 2016 07: 10
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          By the way, I forgot one more pig face: Iosif Reichelgauz - Russian theater director, teacher; People's Artist of Russia (1999) Professor Russian University of Theatrical Art (GITIS), creator and artistic director of the Moscow theater "School of modern play" - rare



          I will add to the list of HSE lecturers singing my students with ultraliberal theories ... and for a minute! There are plenty of such "smart guys" who destroy the brain of their students. To them we add Stankevich ... not getting out from TV ... but hiding in Poland until the criminal case against his tricks was closed due to the terms of application ... Nadezhdin from MEPhI. the list is great.
          1. +3
            25 February 2016 23: 45
            The steamboat Titanic sank on hustling on an Iceberg. Around them are Asbergs, Weisbergs, Eisenbergs and other Reichelgauz ..
        3. +13
          25 February 2016 07: 33
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          By the way, I forgot another pig's face: Yosif Rayhelgauz

          "One more"? Yes, their name is legion! However, I have no doubt that in the relevant structures all the actions and statements of these citizens are recorded and recorded. And they, in due time, will be judged and given just punishment. Ask in what structures? Well, in the heavenly office, for example.
          1. +8
            25 February 2016 09: 11
            And when it comes, is it the "proper time"? Something tells me that I can't wait!
          2. +2
            25 February 2016 09: 14
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            However, I have no doubt that in the relevant structures all actions and statements of these citizens are recorded and recorded

            It is hoped that this is so. And that they will not appear on the voting lists.
          3. +3
            25 February 2016 11: 05
            It is a pity that the celestial office cherishes everyone indiscriminately, but we still have a chance to bring this rot to clean water and slam it with a fly swatter ...
          4. +3
            25 February 2016 13: 31
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Well, in the heavenly office, for example.

            Folk wisdom tells himself not to make a mistake.
          5. 0
            25 February 2016 22: 38
            Very cool about structures, especially about "Heavenly Office". It remains to hope for this, for the office can be secret.
        4. +54
          25 February 2016 07: 37
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          By the way, I forgot one more pig face: Joseph Reichelgauz- Russian theater director, teacher; People's Artist of Russia (1999) Professor Russian University of Theatrical Art (GITIS), creator and artistic director of the Moscow theater "School of modern play" - rare

          There is an even more piggy face - Chubais drags this everywhere everywhere ... Well, well, two boots - a pair ...
          1. +8
            25 February 2016 08: 43
            The fact is that as long as we have these figures, we can always point to our pluralism. But for the brains of these gozmans, Nadezhdins, ... gauz, etc., it is necessary, very necessary to give. And you need to learn from the United States or from the Ukrainians. Look how the universities are "cleaned" there. And students in universities where these multi-vector democrats work can figure out and participate in their enlightenment, for example, by visiting or reasonable questions during these visits. Well, not all students are there, their grandchildren, nephews, sons. Isn't Vanya of the people left at MGIMO?
            1. +5
              25 February 2016 13: 58
              Quote: tolian
              The fact is that while these figures are present with us, we can always point out our pluralism. But according to the brains, these gozman, hopeful ... Gauz, etc., need to be given. Is Vanya from the people left in MGIMO?

              Among modern teachers, there are a lot of people trying to get into various scientific joint projects with foreigners.
              I was shocked when I heard about the WTO from a professor at the Russian State University of Oil and Gas (Gubkinsky University) - they say it’s a good thing they’ve entered - you see half a percent of GDP is dropping only because of membership in the WTO, and we’re to blame for any kind of sanctions, poked into Ukraine and squeezed Crimea. Themselves they say we are building fences by banning any import, etc.
          2. +47
            25 February 2016 09: 33
            God forgive me ... Guys this is the edge ...
            Urgently arrange a test for aptitude of the teaching staff of MGIMO and Moscow State University ("Baumanka" I do not take techies there, although if they teach geopolitics, then check the teaching staff there).
            It’s not a matter of patriotism, it’s not even a matter of the awareness that your country is undergoing a colossal test of strength (simply because it wants to live), it’s not even a matter of elementary decency! The point is conscious watering for ... (by no means stupid people) of our country and I ask you to notice where! IN THE FORMER OF STAFF management of the country! What do you want from people with a higher secondary education, when such a G ...?! Teaches at the best university in the capital? Moreover, he has the right to set NEUD. those guys who do not agree with his Russophobian (let's say honestly) nonsense.
            Maybe the state will begin to just drop from its body (already taken out of the brain) even parasites that are not hiding at all?!?
            And how many latent (and maybe not latent) Russophobes IN POWER have this individual managed to release?
            I repeat, the point is not even in Patriotism or in the objective attitude to history, it is already in the survival of OUR COUNTRY ...

            P.S. I really hope that the supervisory min. education authorities will take appropriate measures do not want to touch the Liberals and Russophobes? X ... with him! Then at least just put it outside incompetent employee of MGIMO! Do you have enough authority for this? ..
            1. +3
              25 February 2016 11: 06
              Quote: Now we are free
              supervisory min. education authorities will take appropriate action
              This is what should be feared most of all. Who evaluated the competence and corporate interests of the "supervisory authorities"? After all, measures will be taken according to their interests and "ideas about the beautiful", right? To begin with, we need a broad scientific social science discussion on the most acute problems for the country, in which it is possible to publicly select "supervisory bodies" in the form of academic schools, directions and institutes.
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          4. +4
            25 February 2016 12: 23
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            There is an even more piggy face - this Chubais drags along everywhere ...

            Reminiscent of the savage performed by Jurassic from "Man from Nowhere". Only he was prettier.
          5. +1
            27 February 2016 20: 53
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Eating mug is even more piggy

            One association: "Wallet, wallet ... Which wallet?"
        5. +30
          25 February 2016 08: 00
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          By the way, I forgot one more pig face: Iosif Reichelgauz - Russian theater director,

          This pig, too, annealed Solovyov last weekend, agreed to the point that the people in Odessa were burned and there was nothing to raise the noise because of this. On the site "Kont" there was an article and a heated discussion of this fascist-Zionist.
          1. +13
            25 February 2016 08: 32
            How long will this go on? Normal would have shot himself in shame, but this one didn’t even lead with his ear. Drive this scum and the like from universities and other institutions.
          2. +14
            25 February 2016 08: 56
            Quote: Captain45
            This pig, too, annealed Solovyov last weekend, agreed to the point that the people in Odessa were burned and there was nothing to raise the noise because of this. On the site "Kont" there was an article and a heated discussion of this fascist-Zionist.


        6. +9
          25 February 2016 08: 10
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          such as nadezhdin

          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          He teaches at the university, lectures at the Department of Law, created at the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT).

          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          forgot one more pig face: Iosif Reichelgauz- Russian theater director, teacher; People’s Artist of Russia (1999), Professor of the Russian University of Theater Arts (GITIS), creator and artistic director of the Moscow School of the Modern Play theater, rare M.R.A.Z.O.T.a.


          Well, such as you put it r..o..zh they are teeming among the so-called Russian elite, and all are completely "chosen by God"
          1. +1
            25 February 2016 10: 32
            Quote: sherp2015
            Well, such as you put it r..o..zh they are teeming among the so-called Russian elite, and all are completely "chosen by God"


            This "assistant professor" has a Russian dad and a lawyer mom.
          2. +2
            25 February 2016 15: 46
            Quote: sherp2015
            Well, such as you put it p..o..zh they are teeming among the Russian so-called elite, and everything is completely "chosen by God"


            Do you mean Jews? to call a Jew - doesn’t the language turn Jewish?

            generally hilarious - some Jews (Zhirinovsky / Solovyov) compete with others (Rayhelgauz ...) in the one who loves Russia more feel

            By the way, Soloviev / Zhirik - do you think these are also representatives of the "so-called elite" or are there any other "elites"?
            1. +9
              25 February 2016 18: 25
              Quote: vlad_vlad
              generally hilarious - some Jews (Zhirinovsky / Solovyov) compete with others (Rayhelgauz ...) in the one who loves Russia more

              Maybe hilarious, but in my opinion there are Jews - Solovyov, Zhirinovsky and many others, and there are Jewish Zionists - Raykhelgauz, Gozman, etc., etc. "Their name is legion" - the book of Gr.Klimov.
          3. +1
            26 February 2016 12: 17
            Why the hell are they favorites!
        7. +9
          25 February 2016 08: 31
          "I forgot one more pig's face": Why insult the animal with such a comparison, I mean the pig, from it, unlike these raihelgauz, there is great benefit.
        8. +10
          25 February 2016 08: 31
          He is also a director. What did he direct, who can tell? And judging by the aggressiveness shown on the transfer, he needs to receive money for his titles not in Russia. And Zhirinovsky well done that he pulled this Nussar’s shusher here for discussion. Only here and educate them. So that they do not scream again about the violation of human rights. I would also like to publish an article on this subject on Echo Matzah. It’s interesting to listen to that audience.
          1. +8
            25 February 2016 09: 13
            Quote: tolian
            He is also a director. What did he direct, who can tell?

            I don’t know what he directed, I couldn’t see, I’m far from Moscow, but here’s his speech in defense of the Novosibirsk director, whose blame on the stage is to blame women of easy virtue around the cross with Jesus, I remember well. Intillicent, he’s in a swing. He is not an intellectual, he (this house) -DEGENERATE!
        9. +7
          25 February 2016 08: 36
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          By the way, I forgot another pig's face: Yosif Rayhelgauz

          That's for sure...Yes

          He also showed himself in Solovyov's "best" form ... when he began to defend the notorious deputy of the Rada Goncharenko. Yossi's friend, citizen Goncharenko, took a direct part in the massacre in Odessa on 02.05.15/XNUMX/XNUMX, and then took a selfie against the background of burnt corpses.

          Hysterical Svidomo faces satisfied.
        10. +1
          25 February 2016 09: 12
          http://www.politnavigator.net/goncharenko-i-rajjkhelgauz-pozor-odessy.html вот это ...?
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        13. -4
          25 February 2016 13: 50
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          . What will he teach and what will he sow in his mind?

          It has long been believed that a person is incapable of anything, goes to teachers.
        14. 0
          25 February 2016 17: 05
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          By the way, I forgot one more pig face: Iosif Reichelgauz - Russian theater director, teacher; People's Artist of Russia (1999) Professor Russian University of Theatrical Art (GITIS), creator and artistic director of the Moscow theater "School of modern play" - rare

          I’ve been very interested for a long time - why did this figure (Reichelgauz) register for this show? Why should I listen to the opinion of another Makar? Clowns should entertain the audience!
        15. lel
          +2
          25 February 2016 22: 01
          it hurts to see such "assistant professors" .... it's a big trouble ... something has rotted with us ... and after all, these creatures are not driven out of the country .... let them work on the outskirts ... they need to be sent, so that they do not trash the country ...
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        17. +2
          26 February 2016 22: 52
          By the way, you forgot to add that this is also a prize. Chubais laughing
        18. 0
          27 February 2016 14: 37
          Really piggy wet-mug! A mouth - it would be better not to open! Not a mouth, but a shit!
      2. +15
        25 February 2016 06: 35
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        . What will he teach and what will he sow in his mind?

        Such citizens have already weeded out their own in the late 80s and early XNUMXs. Today, opinion polls show that the liberal economic model and Western democratic values, to put it mildly, are no longer attractive to our people. And the idea of ​​a red socialist empire is being revived again and supported by the majority of the population. How could the Russian "elites" hear the people's aspirations.
        Nadezhdins and hatchets can arbitrarily fester in the denigrations of the USSR, but now these gentlemen do not cause anything but audience laughter. The dead end path of human evolution is homo liberalium. wink
        1. +18
          25 February 2016 06: 50
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Such citizens were already weeded out at the end of the 80s - the beginning of zero. Today, opinion polls show that the liberal economic model and Western democratic values, to put it mildly, are no longer attractive to our people

          Uv. namesake, I'm afraid to upset you, but the wave of USE students is only gaining height, and such a youngster is not a people, this is plasticine, from which good or bad is molded, one "lecture" from Nadezhdin can sow such "plasticine" in the mind that can’t be etched away ... these don.ki know how to express themselves convincingly ...: hi
          : How could the Russian "elite" hear the people's aspirations.
          -it's so funny, I won’t even comment ... everyone knows, everyone hears ...
          1. +10
            25 February 2016 07: 14
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            : How could the Russian "elite" hear the people's aspirations.
            -it's so funny, I won’t even comment ... everyone knows, everyone hears ..
            That banter was smile
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            one "lecture" from Nadezhdin, can sow in the mind of such "plasticine" something that cannot be etched out ... these don.ki know how to express themselves convincingly ...
            One should not exaggerate the influence of the hopeful and belittle the mental abilities of today's youth. By the way, I can also speak convincingly. Especially in combination with physical education methods. bully "The wave of USE students" is, first of all, our children, and only then students. With the right parental upbringing, the brain of a young man will not be clogged up.
            1. +5
              25 February 2016 07: 48
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              in combination with physical education methods

              the most intelligible and convincing arguments ... Yes drinks
            2. +2
              25 February 2016 08: 02
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              With proper parenting, no hatchets will brain the young man.

              subject to unassigned parental brains ...
            3. +18
              25 February 2016 08: 21
              "Especially when combined with physical methods of enlightenment."
              My 14-year-old niece insolently told her father about an attempt to use such a "method of enlightenment" that she would complain about him to the appropriate service created by human rights defenders at the school. And it can really work against the parents. Modern education has sunk to the point that instead of historical dates and the laws of physics, children perfectly know only their rights.
              1. +7
                25 February 2016 08: 44
                And they do not want to know their duties at all - a very convenient position.
              2. +8
                25 February 2016 09: 23
                Quote: Anita
                My 14-year-old niece insolently told her father about an attempt to use such a "method of enlightenment" that she would complain about him to the appropriate service set up at the school by human rights activists.

                In the fourth or fifth grade, the son also said that the school has such a service and he says he has the right to complain. To which I told him: "while you are in My house, at My table you eat a piece of bread that I have earned for you, you you will do what I tell you. You grow up, live with your own mind, but for now I am responsible for you and will educate you as I see fit. " Now I came on vacation, in another city to study at the institute. Smart, however, independent. Nice to see.
              3. +5
                25 February 2016 17: 13
                In such cases, children can be answered that they will be taken away from "bad" parents, but until "good" parents are found, they will have to wait in an orphanage / orphanage, among children who agree to any parents ... Scandalous "onozhedite" won’t win anything. .. It worked for colleagues.
                1. +5
                  25 February 2016 19: 04
                  Quote: Koshak
                  In such cases, children can be answered that they will be taken away from the "bad" parents, but until there are "good" ones, they will have to wait in the orphanage / orphanage, among children who agree to any parents ...

                  No, I think so, you need to play childish games with children like children, but if children ask you about life, ask you vital questions, then you need to talk to them like adults, because all this is nonsense that children don’t understand .If you talk with them on serious topics like with adults, then, if they don’t understand everything, they take your words seriously and may not understand, but they’ll postpone it in your head anyway, and even more so if it’s confirmed by your actions, yes even before his eyes, the child will be a MAN and when he becomes an adult it ( what he said) will always work.
                  1. 0
                    26 February 2016 18: 54
                    Quote: Captain45
                    If you talk with them on serious topics like with adults

                    I read that the Chukchi (not those from a joke, which no one could defeat in life) had such a law if a child said that you can’t go to sea today, because he had a bad dream, a tribe or camp in the sea is coming. From childhood, children were taught to answer for their words and therefore treated them like young adults.
              4. +1
                25 February 2016 23: 50
                I would carve it right away. After a complaint, I shot it right at school. In the presence of classmates.
            4. +10
              25 February 2016 08: 58
              Yes, it never stays forever, but for a while it can. After all, they, these gozmans-hopes-gauzes, lie. And the "best sort" of lies, as you know, is made from half-truths. So they mold this half-truth. While the student will figure it out, based on his own observations of what is happening, half of his life will pass. That is what these "hard workers" need in the anti-Russian field.
              1. 0
                26 February 2016 19: 02
                Quote: tolian
                While the student is sorting it out,

                If he has the opportunity to figure it out ... I remember arguing with the teacher: I went to the blackboard, drew a diagram, made a calculation, as it showed, and pointed out an error in the textbook. She says: "Well, in general, you're right ... but you have to answer as in the textbook ... sit down two." And when the class was outraged by this behavior of the teacher, she said: "Textbooks are not written for us to correct them." Here's what will happen to a student who starts to object to such an assistant professor? It will go to the wipers, straight from the audience.
            5. 0
              25 February 2016 14: 40
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              With proper parenting
              Read: "with a favorable combination of circumstances" (options: with a favorable combination of heavenly bodies, etc.)
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              no hatchets brain brain young man
              He’s Topornov, he’s working clumsily, but he’ll come across Toporkov, some kind of chick and a young man’s head from his shoulders, and instead they will fix a pumpkin with a chewed crumb inside. Persuade then this zombie.
          2. +4
            25 February 2016 07: 47
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Uv. namesake, I'm afraid to upset you, but the wave of USE students is only gaining height, and such young people are not people, they are plasticine, from which they mold good or bad, one "lecture" from Nadezhdin can sow such "plasticine" in the mind

            Not plasticine, unfortunately, but "Si-4" - plastic explosives! ...
            1. +3
              25 February 2016 07: 51
              Quote: CONTROL
              Not plasticine, unfortunately, but "Si-4" - plastic explosives! ...

              it is in the liberal version of the C-4, but in our "plastic-4, or LPVV-9" ...
              1. 0
                25 February 2016 07: 55
                On the T-72, in the dynamic protection boxes, there was: a PVV product, 4C-20.
          3. +5
            25 February 2016 08: 25
            You forget that all of these Nadezhdins and their ilk, as well as Fomenkoids and others appeared and developed long before the appearance of the Unified State Examination. We all have a very flawed school base.
            1. 0
              25 February 2016 11: 38
              Quote: Maegrom
              all these Nadezhdins and their ilk, as well as Fomenkoids

              If you mean the work of Fomenko and Nosovsky, then they are just dangerous for liberals)). Since they offer to think and analyze historical facts, taking into account the fact that they may have already been worked on by the previous "Topornin".
              I personally have no illusions about this. IMHO
          4. +1
            25 February 2016 10: 00
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            : I wish the Russian "elites" would hear the people's aspirations. It's so funny, I won't even comment ... everyone knows, they hear everything ...

            Andrei Yurievich, this is a huge plus.
        2. +5
          25 February 2016 08: 51
          No one has yet given a better definition of the concept of "freedom" as Marxism-Leninism. Hey, gozmans with hopeful ones, shit in denial!
          1. +1
            25 February 2016 14: 48
            Quote: tolian
            No one has yet given a better definition of the concept of "freedom" as Marxism-Leninism
            You mean the definition of Spinoza castrated by Engels - "freedom is conscious need to be free"? laughing
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      4. +26
        25 February 2016 06: 53
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        I have been waiting for this article for a long time ...

        This is yes. Volfovich smashed the "assistant professor" to smithereens and poked him not only on NATO, but also on Iraq. it is a pity that there was no question about the Crimea (although the position of the ghoul is understandable). But the main question remains, why is this G. NIDA teaching ?! And why Zhirinovsky's promise to fire him was not fulfilled? Eh ....
        1. +10
          25 February 2016 09: 10
          And he is already "fired" by this article. Doubt? After all, people like this assistant professor and Nadezhdin are terribly cowardly. They will be in any party. Even like the NSDAP, if it is useful to them. After all, these are prostituted persons. But among such people, prostitution is hidden behind "the ability to think and analyze." Remember Volkogonov, a courtyard ideologist. As he beautifully put it at the end of his life - "the last fortress that fell in me was Lenin." But the Brest Fortress has not yet fallen! Yes, the present time is amazing. It is clearly seen how the liberal fortresses are crumbling. How they twitch, up to a banal fight, different ..... hauses How Kasyanovs run, smeared and thrown eggs, but threatening to give up Crimea. This is truly one step from tragic to ridiculous.
        2. +3
          25 February 2016 12: 31
          Wait a bit, they will hold a commission on professional suitability, so that everything is official, and goodbye. It would not hurt to hold such a commission for all universities.
      5. +7
        25 February 2016 07: 31
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        such as nadezhdin(sorry you can’t swear on the site)

        And the rest of the liberal company ... If I were a student, the next day after the transfer to lectures, such an Associate Professor would come off ...

        sorry you can’t swear on the site...
        1. 0
          25 February 2016 15: 04
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          If I were a student, the next day after the transfer to lectures, such an assistant professor would have come off.
          You needed to get a party recommendation for targeted recruitment to the Institute of Red Professors. Such a "revolutionary sailor" sat down at the table opposite the "bourgeois professor" to take his exam, put a revolver on the table and warn the professor that he was also going to test his "revolutionary consciousness".
      6. +14
        25 February 2016 08: 03
        In principle, the usual Soros grant-eaters, and in fact the enemies of RUSSIA in the broadest sense of the word, enforce the US policy towards Russia - to debunk everything that can be done and drive the deification of the states and their model of building a society (called the nasty word - Democracy into the heads of youth) ) These figures have a lot of titles, usually obtained in Western universities and other places that have traveled at the expense of the sponsors' owners, now it is necessary to work out the money spent on them, in general the FSB has a lot of work to do - these are frank enemies who have already become obvious and irreconcilable and the damage they cause is huge.
      7. +1
        25 February 2016 13: 45
        And it is not only in the towers that such "associate professors" are. When I was still a techie, we had one teacher. She led law, philosophy and something else, I don't remember. So I had a conflict with her on the basis of her openly Russophobic position. Since then, she disliked me and I had to pay a lot of money to be at least 4 in her subjects. Although I studied well and had no problems with law as a subject.
        1. +5
          25 February 2016 15: 24
          Quote: Mixweb
          I had to pay a lot of money to have at least 4 in her subjects. Although I studied well and had no problems with law as a subject.
          The wording shows good legal preparation. Remove from the quotation "as with an object", there will immediately be a contradiction: he gave a bribe, but there were no problems with the law, and so - everything is very accurate, you won't find fault. smile
          1. +2
            25 February 2016 20: 25
            So I wrote that there was no problem with the subject. smile Problems were with the teacher. I was lucky that such moral principles do not change their nature and a lot of money solved the problem. For 3 years of study, I had only one 5 in this subject, when there was an accreditation commission, and I answered in their presence. The commission liked my answer and they praised this mimra that it cooks students so well. And she put me 5. And, honestly, I heard her literally grit her teeth laughing
      8. 0
        25 February 2016 20: 08
        At the top, with 1984, everything is not all right, since our first quiet glanders, slowly but surely, are changing them.
      9. +3
        26 February 2016 01: 13
        Moreover, Boris Nadezhdin has a diploma from Putin "For holding fair elections"!
        After that, I want the president to ask questions about Vasiliev, Serdyukov, Chubais, Nadezhdin, Khodorkovsky.
        How did it happen, Vladimir Vladimirovich, that these people are untouchable?
        Why didn’t there be such under Stalin?
        1. +2
          26 February 2016 02: 30
          Quote: gav6757
          Moreover, Boris Nadezhdin has a diploma from Putin "For holding fair elections"!
          After that, I want the president to ask questions too

          So you were led by the words of a provocateur)). And he, by the way, said that the letter from the PRESIDENT of 2012. Nothing that DAM, as the president at that time, strenuously opposed the activities of Prime Minister Putin?
          By the way, your indignation then gets the exact address)).
        2. +1
          26 February 2016 19: 15
          Quote: gav6757
          Why didn’t there be such under Stalin?

          Because Stalin knew Lenin's thesis: Only such a revolution is worth anything that can defend itself. He carried out purges of the party and shot, defended his homeland, but fell into dictatorships - infringed on the rights of enemies of the people.
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    2. +10
      25 February 2016 07: 08
      Quote: Hammer
      These are the experts now rule the Ukrainians

      "Xperts" have existed in Russia since the nineties of the last century. I have been collecting the corresponding collection for a long time. (Link... See section two, Innovators and Romantics. These are textbooks for universities or scientific publications. Pay attention to Travin and Dyatlov, major specialists in management. And check out their track record.)
      1. +4
        25 February 2016 09: 40
        Mart, do a good job. Here still about words foreign, so persistently driven in our language, someone with knowledge of a question undertook. And it becomes embarrassing to watch and listen to our media. And no control! Is that why it is under-educated and completely illiterate climb on the screens, in publishing houses, on the radio? Is it why we are spiritually impoverished?
        1. +1
          25 February 2016 10: 17
          Quote: tolian
          Mart, do a good job. Here still about words foreign, so persistently driven in our language, someone with knowledge of a question undertook. And it becomes embarrassing to watch and listen to our media. And no control! Is that why it is under-educated and completely illiterate climb on the screens, in publishing houses, on the radio? Is it why we are spiritually impoverished?

          Thank you, Anatoly. This is just a fragment of my collection, it is much wider. Slowly editing and posting. I am deeply convinced that a literate person these days is a fantastic rarity. That is why we see everywhere those whom you call "completely illiterate". Read this interview in "MK" (2009 g.). Hair on end ... But this is MSU.
    3. +7
      25 February 2016 07: 26
      all the color revolutions began precisely with student protests. Such totsents gobble them liberal in their heads. It would be nice to clean up all the higher education institutions. There are a lot of these cockroaches
    4. KOH
      +3
      25 February 2016 07: 30
      Yes, they let the Ukrainians rule, that’s what they do with us, I watched this fight and went into a stupefaction, because this is a teacher, and he tells all this to our youth, I know by myself, you believe the teacher ...
    5. +8
      25 February 2016 08: 06
      Quote: Hammer
      Everything is already clear from the photograph. Such experts now rule Ukrainians


      It's time for Lavrov to deal with the faculty of MGIMO
      1. +4
        25 February 2016 09: 53
        And with the students? Why do you think the USE was so persistently imposed? Why in Russia a good start, taking into account the point for graduating from high school, was turned off? So I believe that the right to study at a university is free of charge only with this score and is it determined? What is the average mark of a secondary school certificate? This is the most valuable characteristic of the applicant, and not only the applicant. In general, a person born. A characteristic of his ability to work mentally. The highest form of labor, so as not to say otherwise. And removed only at the request of those who thought about promoting their children, on which nature rested, unlike their grandfathers or popes.
        1. 0
          27 February 2016 00: 48
          And removed only at the request of those who thought about promoting their children, on which nature rested, unlike their grandfathers or popes.

          That is, in your opinion, the average score of the certificate was removed at the insistence of these really smart fathers and grandfathers? Don't you think that you have some kind of offensive conclusion for this older and intelligent generation? On the one hand, you kind of praised them, saying that the fathers and grandfathers are smart fellows (nature did not rest on them), and right there - that it was through their efforts that the USE was introduced in schools? As far as I understand, you haven't seen such a school lesson as "logic" in schools?
    6. +19
      25 February 2016 09: 36
      Quote: Hammer
      Associate Professor Topornina

      “Constitutional Law of the Russian Federation”: Teaching aid / Leader of the team of authors - academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Topornin BN, ed. Candidate of Law, Associate Professor N.B. Topornina. - M., 2006. That says it all, thieves. The powerful hand of the father-academician pushed through his under-aged son.
      1. +3
        25 February 2016 12: 28
        Quote: sgazeev
        The powerful hand of the academic dad pushed through the undersized son

        Yes, looking at the photo, something was spinning in my head, I didn’t think about it. Demotivator class!
        1. +2
          25 February 2016 18: 34
          Quote: EvgNik
          Yes, looking at the photo, something was spinning in my head, I didn’t think about it.

          What can I think. A Negro addict, a hidden homosexual living in Harlem. You look how unobtrusively they introduced this fashion-stretched T-shirt, a sweatshirt with a hood to hide his face and pants with a knee-length motive, as if he had piled a bunch in his pants after the act in the anus.
      2. +2
        25 February 2016 12: 33
        Judging by the mass of this so-called venerable scientist, this is not undergrowth, but overgrowth.
      3. 0
        25 February 2016 12: 33
        Judging by the mass of this so-called venerable scientist, this is not undergrowth, but overgrowth.
      4. 0
        25 February 2016 23: 56
        And geography we nafig-taxi drivers on the navigator will bring .... hi
      5. 0
        26 February 2016 23: 33
        State Leeches ...
    7. +7
      25 February 2016 10: 26
      Excursions into history are, of course, good.
      But the bottom line is that now is the time of mediocrity, villains, embezzlers who usurped power, I will make a reservation that not everyone is there, who has a soul for the Motherland hurts.
      But "who teaches our children"? The bulk - the belching of the nineties, who before that did not know how and did not know (or knew mediocre), in the 90s did not know how and did not know, and in our time everything is the same!
      When praises to the West are sung, they change history - these are either enemies or dull mediocrity!
      Education is one of the main and defining branches of the state, you must agree. And the one who "controls the minds" determines the future of the state.
      In our country, it (the future) is so far determined in its bulk by mediocrity and villains!
      And all this is not in itself, but at the suggestion of the powerful!
      How much they say to Putin about the dangers of the exam, about the collapse of science, incl. High school, and that ..., things are still there.
      The leadership of a country such as Russia should be true patriots, then they will teach real history in universities and schools, not written by the West!
      1. 0
        27 February 2016 01: 01
        What's the difference between the Unified State Exam or the Exam? What, it will be much better if, instead of "soulless computers", exams in schools are taken by such associate professors Topornina?
        Have you seen modern teachers? Yes, they in their pedagogical universities for the last courses are so overwhelming that they should not be allowed to see children at all. But there are no others !!!
        And history .. yes, we in Soviet schools taught history written exclusively by the West. And you, by the way, probably liked her.
        In fact, the whole of Russian history for several centuries grew from the Synopsis of Gisel.
        And I. Gisel, by the way, before he was baptized into Orthodoxy, was a Prussian German Protestant.
        Did you like the stories, for example, about Evpatiy Kolovrat, who was there, on a winter forest road, which we even in the 19th century were one and a half meters wide, beat half of Batyev's army? And by the way, all this dregs about the Tatar (and then about the Tatar-Mongol, and then about the Mongol-Tatar, and then just about the Mongolian) yoke is a sabotage of Poles Catholics. Who wanted to present their Poland as the last stronghold of European civilization. And further to the east, they say, only wild Muscovites, just freed from the "yoke". And if in fact there was no invasion (and yoke), then where would Evpatiya come from?
    8. +4
      25 February 2016 11: 43
      Quote: Hammer
      Everything is already clear from the photograph. Such experts now rule Ukrainians

      Ukrainians put three piles. It is scary that these associate professors lead our science, culture, education and much more.
      1. +2
        25 February 2016 21: 59
        larand

        Well, if we were talking about Ukrainians.

        That Ukrainians just did the "docents". There is one version that is very likely.
    9. +9
      25 February 2016 12: 15
      If a person who has graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in the country and, moreover, has worked in it for a quarter of a century, does not seriously know that the NATO military bloc was formed 6 years earlier than the Warsaw Treaty Organization (ATS), and that it was the ATS that was a rather late response to the creation of NATO , then for the future of Russian diplomacy it becomes, to put it mildly, alarming.


      I already wrote here that our good friends have a son who graduated from MGIMO. He was quite an adequate guy, he was not caught by pull, but won the All-Russian competition in English, traveled with Putin to Canada, someone there was represented by a good university, a good education. And before graduating from the bachelor's degree I was in practice in France, upon arrival such chips bent "In Europe, everyone hates us, you need to change the policy so that we are treated differently" and so on in that spirit. By the way, after MGIMO I entered the Master's program at the Higher School of Management, for the sake of interest I studied the work program and curriculum for the preparation of GSOM and made a conclusion for myself, "This university trains specialists for any companies in the USA and Europe, but not for Russia, and they are also preparing the fifth column. ". For his parents, he is lost, in that sense he will not bring a mug of water to the old people, he looks with all his eyes to escape to the bourgeoisie.
      So one question arises: who is being prepared for state money and why?
    10. +3
      25 February 2016 13: 12
      Quote: Hammer
      These are the experts now rule the Ukrainians

      It's about those who raise our children. And about how many millions of lives and billions of money-dollars will have to be burned in the fire of war in order to pay for the harm done by these ... And who rules there ... The crafty Ukrainians are not going to throw bombs and spend money on the army. They chose another strategy - the strategy of biological warfare with NATO. They will penetrate into the immediate environment of this NATA, lay eggs inside ... And in the remnants of NATA there will be many, many small, white, nimble Ukrainians. And Ukrainian. And NAT will come to an end ... Like Ukraine. Urgent need to dig a ditch, pour bleach, pour carasin. And then they will reach us.
    11. +5
      25 February 2016 14: 13
      What to say.. Looking at what is happening at the top of the country, you understand 37 more and more.
      This is not a whim and someone's bloodthirstiness, but an urgent need! Otherwise, do not survive!
    12. +5
      25 February 2016 18: 54
      Hmm! As they say, Zhirik shaved off this "hatchet" in full. Indeed, universities should be cleared of this contradiction, and the HSE, as a breeding ground for liberoid infection, should be closed to hell!
    13. 0
      25 February 2016 20: 27
      ... most likely such "iksperds" taught those who are in power "puppies" are ... "knowledge" + insanity from the student's bench ... wassat negative
    14. +3
      26 February 2016 01: 09
      These are the crappy liberals who teach in our universities!
      This is not even hidden, but a direct enemy of the Russian people, but who allows him to teach?
      Why does a person teaching at MGIMO have hostile views on Russia?
      These questions should be addressed to our government and the prime minister, but it is better to start by dissolving this government and replacing it with a patriotic one !!!
    15. +1
      26 February 2016 07: 03
      Zhirinovsky handsome, in his original manner, burns the truth, the womb!
      1. 0
        26 February 2016 23: 37
        Although Zhirinovsky hit the undergrowth, it seemed to me that even he was taken aback at first.
  2. +1
    25 February 2016 06: 11
    in the hands of a visiting expert
    Not that he picked up ...
  3. +6
    25 February 2016 06: 14
    Associate Professor MGIMO? !! Moscow State Institute ..... paragraph.
  4. +9
    25 February 2016 06: 15
    Nikolai Borisovich Topornin is an expert on issues of financial, customs, budget and banking law of the European Union, integration into the EU and the CIS, and constitutional law of the Russian Federation. Candidate of Law, Associate Professor.

    speaks English, French, Spanish and German. Trained and taught at European universities

    Here it is our "elite".
    And how many such hatchets fuel in the country.
    1. +11
      25 February 2016 06: 33
      Now we need to check all of its graduates, especially those who have "excellent" in their subject.
  5. +10
    25 February 2016 06: 17
    "NATO emerged as a response to the Warsaw Pact"
    This is because in Moscow all "bread" positions are bought and sold. The presence of brains is not necessary.
  6. +5
    25 February 2016 06: 19
    He is terribly far from the people .....
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 23: 39
      What is true is true.
      But how much complacency per kilogram of weight.
  7. +6
    25 February 2016 06: 21
    MGIMO Associate Professor carry such a chukhn - to fall through the ground! - And he, probably, at least henna!
    1. +6
      25 February 2016 08: 35
      Not just henna, this matter intentionally carries it, he is sure of this and is struggling to bring this confidence to the Aboriginal people, the owner taught and ordered nothing personal.
  8. +4
    25 February 2016 06: 22
    there are two troubles in Russia and here is one more confirmation. he would have been some kind of janitor, wherever he went, but he is a teacher. In the 80s of the last century, he certainly did not teach after such a blunder. And now: shallow Emelya, your week.
  9. +3
    25 February 2016 06: 24
    Who teaches? Arkady Raikin and Roman Kartsev. "And you..."
  10. +2
    25 February 2016 06: 24
    It’s good that they began to pay attention to the parallel universe. Won Zelensky no longer ride. By the ear, but by the sun.
  11. +18
    25 February 2016 06: 25
    Yes, this assistant professor knows the story, he knows. He handed it back to the USSR. But now he is looking at the world through dollars, which he does not receive at the MGIMO box office. And for the sake of these dollars, he will not even say that.
    PS According to the liberals, the serpent in the Garden of Eden also had a surname. And everyone knows her!
  12. +8
    25 February 2016 06: 27
    And Zhirinovsky was right - it is necessary to drive in the neck such "taught" from institutes, technical schools and academies. ..
  13. +26
    25 February 2016 06: 28
    I will call MGIMO - you have been working there the last day. These are doctors of sciences, they teach our youth ... If a person teaches at MGIMO with such knowledge, then this is wildness.... I completely agree with Zhirinovsky ....
  14. +17
    25 February 2016 06: 28
    I would suggest collecting signatures under an appeal to the MGIMO Academic Council for the deprivation of all the ranks and qualifications of this clever man and a liberalist.
    1. +3
      25 February 2016 06: 32
      MGIMO is no longer Optimist ..
      1. +6
        25 February 2016 06: 37
        Here one more "historian" and "judge" was found:
        "Kadyrov cursed Stalin and Beria for centuries"
        http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201602231655-trzg.htm

        I wonder how such a passage before in the news did not come up here ...
        1. +5
          25 February 2016 11: 58
          Yes - very cool - "Hero of Russia" curses the Generalissimo. The infantryman follows in the footsteps of his commander, who ran into Lenin. I still did not understand - and these people are going to teach us patriotism ??? On the examples of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and Basayev ???
          1. +2
            25 February 2016 18: 55
            Quote: KBR109
            Here one more "historian" and "judge" was found:
            "Kadyrov cursed Stalin and Beria for centuries"
            http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201602231655-trzg.htm

            Quote: KBR109
            Yes - very cool - "Hero of Russia" curses the Generalissimo. The infantryman follows in the footsteps of his commander, who ran into Lenin.

            There is no bazaar if you look at life simply. But life is not an easy thing and without knowing the mentality of the Chechens it is easy to talk about this statement (and I know a little, I had the opportunity to familiarize myself with it during more than a year of business trips), so you should not judge it harshly. " Judge its fruits, "so it seems to be said in the Scripture. And its fruits in Syria are seen very well.
            1. +1
              25 February 2016 19: 36
              And do not complicate.
              Otherwise, "mentality" will begin again, "got a little excited", "onizhedeti .." and other tolerance.

              ".. Nationalism will raise its head with special force. It will suppress internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise. Many pygmy leaders, traitors within their nations, will appear.

              In general, in the future development will go more complex and even frantic ways, the turns will be extremely steep. The point is that the East will be particularly upset. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.

              And yet, no matter how the events develop, time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the deeds and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come. They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due. They will build their future on our past "

              I.V. Stalin. From a recording of a conversation with A. Kollontai
  15. +9
    25 February 2016 06: 32
    Quote: SAM 5
    Trained and taught at European universities

    Here it is, where the dog rummaged, a little pork came back in those days, probably bourgeois for cookies and jam!
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  17. Fox
    +17
    25 February 2016 06: 34
    guys! and what, this is news for you? just this bugger was shown on TV ... and their-LEGION ... in all institutes and academies. cleverly this is called an "agent of influence". and they are not sickly they so influence the young. I myself come across such cases on a regular basis, even in schools like mud.
    1. +7
      25 February 2016 07: 55
      Quote: Fox
      guys! and what, this is news for you? just this bugger was shown on TV ... and their-LEGION ... in all institutes and academies. cleverly this is called an "agent of influence". and they are not sickly they so influence the young. I myself come across such cases on a regular basis, even in schools like mud.

      That's it from school - now! - it all starts! Chicks of the programs of Soros and adherents of the exam ...
      From whom the children learn in school - do not be lazy, carefully look through the history books - aha, school ones! Well, literature at the same time ... critical articles ... essays and abstracts posted on the internet as "samples" for copying ...
      ... the FSB, they say, will track such a ... fuck on the Internet! it's time ... quite a while ...
    2. +2
      26 February 2016 00: 00
      Nabiullina did not intern with him over the hill?
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  18. +9
    25 February 2016 06: 34
    Topornin - pro-Western d.v.o.l.o.ch. As deceitful as their media.
  19. +22
    25 February 2016 06: 38
    I doubt he really knows it. Rather, it is just another "Solzhenitsyn" from history.
  20. +1
    25 February 2016 06: 40
    Quote: Wanderer 2008
    a little parbanuli was still in those days, probably for bourgeois cookies and jams

    ... well, besides cookies, it works out to the fullest ... sorry for the studios and our future ...
  21. +4
    25 February 2016 06: 40
    IN PHOTO HE REMINDS ME TO A CHEAP CLOWN. NOW AT ANYWHERE A WANDING CIRCUS WILL BE PRESCRIBED TO MIX.
  22. +2
    25 February 2016 06: 51
    therefore it is bad and it turns out in Russia with politics and economy. right decisions. accepted by management go through such executors and are performed exactly the opposite.
  23. +1
    25 February 2016 07: 06
    I did not know that they could give a scientific title for a birthday))) to a campaign, here this case is)))
  24. +3
    25 February 2016 07: 07
    There will be more such "teachers" with our current education system. It is a sin to laugh at the poor! And he is definitely sick all over. Doesn't know the subject that he teaches himself.
    1. +5
      25 February 2016 10: 18
      Yes, it's time to sound the alarm about our education system! Louder. Why are more and more students claiming that they only need a higher education diploma when they belittle the credit? And paid education is a hotbed, or rather a serpentarium of these "diploma winners". Remove paid education immediately! Remove the host of "higher" educational institutions! Has the situation in Russia with the condition of teeth improved due to so many expensive toothpaste, expensive paid services and so many paid dental clinics? And for the future Pushkins, the state can organize lyceums for especially gifted ones. After all, this was exactly what the lyceum in Tsarskoe Selo was. Enough to produce "menuezhors".
  25. +4
    25 February 2016 07: 07
    There are a lot of such "associate professors", they teach something to young people in higher educational institutions. And what do they suit the rectors? Then, following the logic, if the rector is satisfied with the associate professor who teaches students who are the future of the country, any heresy and a specific false topic, then who then the rector? No need to tell that the rector has nothing to do with, and that there are not enough teachers. Better their absence than such "associate professors". With this approach to education, there is a possibility of becoming cooler "independent" !!!!!!
  26. +3
    25 February 2016 07: 11
    When Topornin (from the word ax) said this, I remembered the phrase - "What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things that I have ever heard ... everyone in this room was dull." I hope Zhirik kept his word and this "assistant professor" at MGIMO no longer works.
  27. cap
    +12
    25 February 2016 07: 12
    "Nikolai Borisovich Topornin is an expert on financial, customs, budgetary and banking law of the European Union, integration into the EU and the CIS, constitutional law of the Russian Federation. Candidate of Legal Sciences, Associate Professor. Topornin gives a course of lectures on EU banking law at MGIMO (U) of the Russian Foreign Ministry. He is also the author of numerous scientific publications, heads the European Information Center, performs the functions of the head of scientific projects of undergraduates and postgraduates. Graduated from MGIMO. Has been working at the university for over 25 years. "

    CIA agent and traitor, part-time. This is my opinion soldier
    1. +3
      25 February 2016 10: 34
      That confuses me ..... the author of numerous .... I remember a funny incident. I, a graduate student, encountered an incomprehensibility in the book. Found one of the "authors" There were about 6 of them, I think. The book was translated, and the authors were entirely with Guz surnames. He asked about the incomprehensibility. He looked at me for a long time with incomprehension, like: "And I have to do with it." Showed him the list of authors on the cover. He saw with surprise his name and quickly hurried, they say, in a hurry. He said to come up later, someday. I could not catch him again. I ran away, hid, seeing me from afar. So, like Fomenko and Nosovsky, he had over 100 titles. Anyone who works in the field of science can appreciate this "fertility" and variety of titles. By the way, like that of the same Zhirinovsky. And many academicians of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. I am sure that Korolev, Kovalev, Einstein, this list is more modest. They are scientists, they worked themselves. They did not work for them, stamping their works. The time will come and titles, works from the list, the current mnogostanochnik like these "clumsy" ones will be shy. Maybe not. After all, this feeling of embarrassment is not peculiar to them, it seems.
    2. 0
      26 February 2016 23: 43
      At least an influence agent.
  28. +5
    25 February 2016 07: 19
    After training with such teachers, students and replenish ISIS
  29. +7
    25 February 2016 07: 21
    I have always said that the Ministry of Education is the "holy of holies" for the state. In this situation, it is important whether Zhirinovsky will really call MGIMO, whether there will actually be any actions, or so boltology. I heard him fleetingly recently on February 23, my ears were wilting (for me the order felt like that, he knows everything very well - 2 formations), apparently justified the first word of the name of the party. And the statement of this assistant professor is a system in education and how to fight, even if you raise Stalin.
  30. +3
    25 February 2016 07: 36
    So much for your "patriotic" statements. I wonder in which direction our services responsible for security in Russia are looking. This associate professor probably also has scientific titles in Pendos universities.
  31. +4
    25 February 2016 07: 37
    "Trained and taught at European universities: Rotterdam (Netherlands), Brussels (Belgium), Frankfurt am Main (FRG), Osnabruck (FRG), Berlin (FRG), Paris (France), etc. Teaches at the departments of European and Constitutional rights of MGIMO. " - Perhaps this is the case. It is not for nothing that Stalin was distrustful of those who had a lot of internships in all kinds of Europe, naturally, if the intern was not a techie and not on technical issues. The most dangerous thing is that they LESS !!! Those. form the worldview of the next generation. It’s interesting that the tale of Dmitry A. Medvedev on this subject would be interesting.
  32. +6
    25 February 2016 07: 39
    That's how history is misinterpreted, and our lazy students who are brought up by the Internet are too lazy to check, and generally, prior professors need to be trusted a priori somehow. But such a blunder in front of everyone is tantamount to a hara-kiri among the samurai.
  33. +1
    25 February 2016 07: 42
    Nothing, there is still a lot of gold in Kolyma ...
  34. +3
    25 February 2016 07: 45
    This "docent" is far from the docent.
  35. +4
    25 February 2016 07: 45
    Yes, comrades, to his father, Boris Nikolayevich Topornin, oh how it would be a pity for a son if he were alive. Such a father has a son - a liberalist and a liar!
    Who cares about B.N. Topornina - Wiki to help you.
    A B.N. Topornin in my university was the rector, a bright mind man.
    1. +2
      25 February 2016 07: 57
      Did this wonderful father know how he raised his son? Or did he say one thing and think another? The usual downfall of the Russian intellectual is evident, his degradation and rebirth into a fire-worshiper or traitor. Most of them ended up like this, unless, of course, they held leading posts in the "revolutionary" bodies and did not arrest or execute their friends and acquaintances, living to old age.
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  36. +6
    25 February 2016 07: 54
    Yes, there is such an assistant professor. Not dumb, just an assistant professor. Did anyone remark to him? Does anyone oppose him? No. Nobody. Neither the students, who would just pass the test, nor the fellow teachers, secretly, apparently, envy his "courage" in the fight against the regime. Hero! Will be awarded a medal of the US Congress, bathed in dollars. And it hurts. Corrupts our youth.
    Keep it up, gentlemen from MGIMO. We must make sure that neither the Lavrovs, nor the Churkins, nor the Zakharovs are in our diplomacy. Why, indeed, fight, if not with anyone and for nothing.
  37. +5
    25 February 2016 07: 56
    I read an article about Dvorkovich, followed by a "docent" ... You can write a lot of similar articles about the same Livanov with Medinsky, Pamfilova with Gref ... It's alarming, somehow, in my heart. After all, the podpindochniki libepists and the rest, who are in the same ranks with them, are digging under the foundation of our state. They dig persistently, without loud speeches and rallies. You need to fight them with the most radical methods. Walking on bridges and throwing cakes will not change the situation. Our President in the external arena is playing the right game, putting all external "friends" and "partners" in place ... But at the same time, he completely misses the situation inside the country from under his control. And when he decides to take the levers into his own hands, it may be too late. And then what?
    PS I did not watch this program. Be sure to watch the video on YouTube. But I imagine the face of Zhirinovsky ...
  38. +2
    25 February 2016 07: 58
    only lustration will help here
  39. +6
    25 February 2016 08: 04
    In the commentary to the article "So what is it, this Russian way - fascinating and incomprehensible?" I just wrote, I quote myself laughing

    Yes, but this requires completely different elites in Russia! This is generally a sore spot of the Russian state for many centuries. The intelligentsia in Russia is extremely strange from the point of view of a common man in the street. Without "iron grip", the so-called Russian elite did more harm to the state, and the "driven into a stall" seemed to be working for the benefit of society, but all the time trying to get more freedoms, although they did not know how to use these freedoms properly for the benefit of Russian society. ..

    ... Westernism, kneeling of Russian elites before the West to the detriment of Russian identity, Russian interests - this is one of the main troubles


    In general, he once again strengthened his thoughts about the so-called "Russian elites."
    Through these "associate professors" a new ideology is being prepared for the next generations of Russians. The people, on whom the state will have to rely in 5-10 years, have already been zombified by "docents", and perhaps after a while hatred of Russia will also be driven into their heads. Nothing is impossible in this!

    Zhirinovsky +100500 in karma! wink
  40. +4
    25 February 2016 08: 05
    ... a student of the Faculty of Philosophy - fell into ISIS ... a student of MGIMO - there too ... Moscow students (two) - economists: there ... The trend, however!
    --------
    Reminiscent of Robert Sheckley's story "Therapy": "... Magnusen, the vile monster that cut down the Kaswell gorika! ..." Kaswell closed his eyes and imagined with pleasure how he would settle accounts with Magnusen for everything ... everything ... everything ... will be parking Magnusen in a Vlendish way ... "
    ... One psychosis smoothly gives way to another; ...- and he was never normal!
  41. +5
    25 February 2016 08: 13
    "How many more such candidates and doctors have dug in our universities?" - You know, there are many and mostly young teaching staff, up to 30 years old. Here are those "old" patriots, mainly of the country, and whoever "licked" their education, work or internship in the West - they have already been cloned, no, no, they hiss about "Rashka is stupid with drunken cattle"
    1. +2
      25 February 2016 10: 07
      This is for the "humanities". "Techies" then left, basically.
  42. +6
    25 February 2016 08: 13
    I looked at the photo of the scumbag, I remembered: "What a disgusting face!" (C) "Gentlemen of Fortune", the professor also says about the Associate Professor, but what a professor good
    In fact, why should we be surprised? Over the past 16 years in Russia, under strange and sometimes mysterious circumstances, about 70 scientists and not just scientists, but very good and promising nuclear physicists have been killed or missing (in the early 2000s, five they just beat them with bats on the street, like "hop-stop", and another group of nuclear power plant reactor developers crashed in an airplane near Petrozavodsk), mathematicians, microbiologists, specialists in the field of cybernetics and psychology. All of them either made important discoveries or their developments close approached such discoveries. Of all the cases, only three were disclosed. So there are no sensible ones, and only such ones remained, if I may say "assistant professors". There were articles about scientists on the Internet, you can find who is curious.
  43. +2
    25 February 2016 08: 17
    how after this to treat Mr. Topornin
    As one of the respected generals of the fifth liberally column in Russia. I hope that the FSB will not sleep.
  44. +7
    25 February 2016 08: 18
    it's time to return the 37 year ... As much as I would not like, but it's time!
    1. +3
      25 February 2016 08: 40
      And who would not want to? Normal people, just do not shout about it. I hope that such docents, without knowing it, accelerate the coming of this year.
  45. +17
    25 February 2016 08: 18
    I thought, how do these people come to TV to voice their worldview. Not otherwise than for US money and their guidance. Therefore, such "scientists" boldly express their thoughts to the whole world from our TV. And they are not responsible.
    I devoted my whole life to strengthening the power of our country. Equipped air forces of the VD countries with the most modern weapons. Created the company for the release of military hardware. But I never stuttered about it on the air. This assistant professor teaches a certain discipline at the university, publishes articles that someone reviews. What it is? I have published more than 300 scientific papers, of which 42 are monographs and textbooks. But I never heard such a nonsense like this assistant professor in my life.
    Having finished practical activities in creating armored vehicles, I now head the department at the University (technical), we do not allow ourselves such activities as this associate professor. I have the honor.
  46. +4
    25 February 2016 08: 18
    We need a course on the history of confrontation between Russia and its "partners", otherwise not everyone knows the facts, like Zhirinovsky. And we, either out of delicacy, or in the hope of the gratitude of the "partners", keep silent about these facts.
    1. 0
      25 February 2016 17: 14
      No dp needed. piece You just need to know the story.
  47. +11
    25 February 2016 08: 20
    "Nikolai Borisovich Topornin is an expert on financial, customs, budgetary and banking law of the European Union, integration into the EU and the CIS, constitutional law of the Russian Federation. Candidate of Legal Sciences, Associate Professor. Topornin gives a course of lectures on EU banking law at MGIMO (U) of the Russian Foreign Ministry. He is also the author of numerous scientific publications, heads the European Information Center, performs the functions of the head of scientific projects of undergraduates and postgraduates. Graduated from MGIMO. Has been working at the university for over 25 years. "

    A question to the rector of MGIMO: "What does ******** do at MGIMO?

    Such "associate professors" should be driven on foot through our native expanses to the very border with NATO, and then a good kick with a tarpaulin boot should be weighed out under his NATO fat ass, so that without landing to Brussels ...

    Sorry, could not resist.
    I have the honor
    1. +1
      26 February 2016 00: 09
      What a kick in the ass, in Siberia a lot of snow. Janitors with such an education are simply necessary.
  48. +5
    25 February 2016 08: 30
    After Eltsin came to power, science in Russia ceased to be financed. And it existed for the most part due to the Soros Foundation. Today, candidates of sciences at Ulyanovsk University do not receive even 10 tr. The state does not need them? Here is the result.
  49. +4
    25 February 2016 08: 34
    Quote: starper
    Associate Professor MGIMO? !! Moscow State Institute ..... paragraph.

    No titles and positions are a guarantee against lies. Especially if the "scientist" is a rascal.
  50. +9
    25 February 2016 08: 35
    Quote: parusnik
    I will call MGIMO - you have been working there the last day. These are doctors of sciences, they teach our youth ... If a person teaches at MGIMO with such knowledge, then this is wildness.... I completely agree with Zhirinovsky ....

    I also agree with Zhirinovsky - this is wildness. But here is his line about the call - playing for the audience. He is not God, to be immediately obeyed. Alas, such teachers usually follow all job descriptions very clearly and it is quite difficult to "clean" them out. They will pass re-certification, no doubt about it. And about such statements, they will simply declare, or "I was wrong," if such a mistake as the timing of the creation of NATO-OVD, or if something else simply refers to freedom of speech and the fact that the constitution prohibits state ideology.
    Although it is necessary to clean the "stables"
    1. +7
      25 February 2016 09: 13
      What the hell is recertification ?! The question is the prestige of the FIRST university in the country! For Sadovnichy, in my opinion, this should become a personal issue! This is not just a BLJ, and even more so it does not relate to freedom of speech. It is illiteracy, and people who do not know the basics I don’t have the right to teach! And if this is a targeted FALSE, then excuse me, the camp clift to the Mordovian forests! Let them read lectures there!
      1. +2
        25 February 2016 10: 05
        And what does the "gardener" have to do with it? "Gardener" - at Moscow State University "innovations sawing" himself for another mansion in Cannes. And here we are talking about MGIMO
      2. +3
        25 February 2016 10: 15
        Please tell me the name of the official who is responsible for the prestige of the country. You know? Unfortunately, I don’t remember this.
        1. +1
          25 February 2016 17: 11
          Such a person will not become an official, because he will not take root in the "bestiality" of those areas.
      3. +5
        25 February 2016 10: 26
        this is not illiteracy! it is FAITH in its FALSE. And the understanding that ONLY such a blatant lie will help to distort the minds of students
  51. +2
    25 February 2016 08: 35
    This scarecrow - Topornin - is an obvious open enemy of Russia. Why is this creature not in prison or in correctional labor? Why does he lie publicly?
    Who will respect such power if people are sent to jail for stealing goods from a supermarket, but for public humiliation and insults to their native Fatherland, for lies and insinuations - NO FUCK! If you stole a lot - NO FUCK!
    Lied in public - get an audience in the taiga. Something like this. At the very least, this squalor should not be allowed to teach in Russia.
  52. +1
    25 February 2016 08: 35
    It also seems to me that he deliberately “blurred out” his “expert” cross-eyed thought... Zhirinovsky reacted correctly. Although this “expert” is more of an economist. And as an assistant professor - 0!
  53. +2
    25 February 2016 08: 38
    I would like to know how this story ends! Another verbal blah blah blah, or something concrete!? There are a lot of such Evils in our scientific community! And after the lectures of such wise men, half-educated “freedom fighters” appear.
  54. +1
    25 February 2016 08: 42
    MGIMO was the “forge of the Soviet elite” - that is, the children of Soviet big bosses studied there.
    Well... Isn't it surprising that it was the children of the bosses, all these Latynins-Politkovskys, who turned out to be completely decomposed?
  55. +5
    25 February 2016 08: 46
    Why be surprised? Let us remember our, who will not be remembered, Minister of Foreign Affairs Kozyrev and his calls for the West to destroy Russia. Still the same liberal Yeltsin family... By the way, yesterday the IMF praised our Nabiullina, and knowing that in the West only those of our leaders who harm their native state are praised, we can conclude that the head of our Central Bank is doing something useful for the IMF created.
  56. +1
    25 February 2016 08: 57
    Actually, I'm not surprised by this state of affairs regarding the assistant professor. First of all, you need to understand that there is not enough sovereignty in the country, and such areas as education, and especially universities in general, are under close attention. I once talked to a graduate of the Higher School of Economics - he generally thought that the First World War was the war with Napoleon... And take the law department of a state university - this is a hotbed of Russophobia - so they taught that they avoid some issues, smooth them out somewhere - very cleverly prepared in this regard. To the question that the GDP in the existing system of government does not have the necessary powers, I received the answer that if there were such powers, it would be a dictatorship! - and in that spirit about everything
  57. +2
    25 February 2016 09: 13
    ...Topornin...Zlobin...It's in science!
    ...Makarevich...Zelensky...in “culture”...All sorts of Akhedzhakovs!...
    How many of them are “undiscovered deposits”? Still to be “explored and discovered”!
    ...no, no - yes, they flash: sometimes in the “box”, sometimes in the press, sometimes in the cinema and theater..."The Booker" was recently given to such an "outstanding writer" - A. Snegirev...
  58. +1
    25 February 2016 09: 14
    So, is he still not fired? Hey, Zhirik, how are you?
    But in fact, don’t worry: a raven won’t peck out a crow’s eye!
  59. +1
    25 February 2016 09: 16
    the pug barks and the caravan moves on......
  60. +2
    25 February 2016 09: 16
    I’ve mentioned it more than once, but I’ll say it again.
    Pacific Fleet Museum, open-air exhibition.
    I walk around and look at guns and other equipment.
    A guide and several navy uniforms emerge from the museum building.
    The guide walks around the exhibition, talking about the exhibits.
    And it comes to Lend-Lease American guns.
    And then he suffered ...
    In short, judging by his speech, we won the war only thanks to the Americans,
    who only supplied us with normal weapons.
    And all this is ours, purely to die heroically.
    I wonder if this dude tells everyone that?
    So the example in the article is far from isolated.
  61. +1
    25 February 2016 09: 19
    remove this bastard from work and initiate a criminal case under the article of sabotage and sabotage, it’s time to start cleaning the country from such traitorous assistant professors!
  62. +2
    25 February 2016 09: 24
    In my opinion, you need to hit your face for THIS! And then we wonder why on the posters there are Focke-Wulfs, “Pantras” and “Tigers”, and flags upside down!!!!! It’s all from impunity and shamelessness!!! And then “Dachau” and "Buchenwald" holiday camp?
  63. +2
    25 February 2016 09: 35
    Once again we are convinced how deep the liberal infection lies, completely openly, brazenly and cynically spitting in the face of Russia. In the same way, we are convinced of the helplessness of power structures, which are OBLIGATED to ensure the security of the country at all levels, but in fact openly condone anti-Russian forces. No one can explain why there is such a wild social stratification of society, terrible tariffs for housing and communal services, unconstitutional racketeering for capital repairs of the housing stock, absurdly high payments for the services of government top managers, state “protection protection” for banking structures and thieving corrupt officials - questions are only multiplying, but, for the most part, they do not dare. The "fifth column" is noticeably gaining strength.
  64. +4
    25 February 2016 09: 35
    "Worked for more than 15 years in the information office of the Council of Europe as a director." - Send back! Let him teach there. A person who speaks so many languages ​​cannot be ignorant. It’s unlikely that this is a “dreaming humanitarian” here. This is his position. After this, you look differently at all these “suffering Landaus” and “repressed geniuses” of the Stalinist period. A talented scoundrel is a hundred times worse than an honest fool.
  65. +1
    25 February 2016 09: 37
    When the tongue speaks separately from the head Such words are treason to the Motherland or a psychiatric clinic... Sincerely, Ph.D., Associate Professor E. Kuznetsov
  66. +1
    25 February 2016 09: 45
    It's time to sift through the "elite". They live there by themselves and for themselves.
  67. -3
    25 February 2016 09: 48
    our children are taught by Mr. Solovyov, and not some “assistant professor” with knowledge of a bunch of languages; close the program of this sycophant and there will be no “assistant professors”
  68. +5
    25 February 2016 09: 50
    It’s nice to see such a unanimous assessment here about MGIMO Associate Professor Nikolai Topornin! But what’s surprising is why he hasn’t been fired yet?! It turns out that the rector of MGIMO has a different opinion? What about the Ministry of Education? And what about our FSB agencies, finally? Why does the state machine tolerate traitors? Maybe she is seriously ill?
  69. +2
    25 February 2016 09: 50
    We can only hope that this time Vladimir Volfovich will not just make a star, but will actually call the authorities. so that they kick this asshole Cossack away from the students.
  70. 0
    25 February 2016 09: 57
    The Warsaw Pact was created after Germany joined NATO. That's probably why it's late.
  71. +2
    25 February 2016 09: 59
    Well, what can I say, there is a Russian proverb, no skin, no face, and you can add a complete lack of intelligence. A question to the Minister of Education, how did this pro-Western clown get into MGIMO, the same question to the rector of MGIMO.
    1. +2
      25 February 2016 10: 13
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      Question to the Minister of Education, how did this pro-Western clown get into MGIMO?

      So everyone in the ministry is like that and it is useless to ask them such questions. And with the rector (my opinion) they share bribes fraternally.
  72. +1
    25 February 2016 10: 04
    I remember the classic: “And your assistant professor is stupid! I said everything” :)
  73. +5
    25 February 2016 10: 25
    And this doesn’t surprise me. But something completely different is terrifying.
    They understand that now they cannot do anything with Russia. But “teaching” our children is their only option.
    And godless lies are their main tool.
    They not only have "NATO later Warsaw Dog." created.
    The same war was won by the Anglo-Saxons.
    After all, you can say
    - in the middle of the last century, a conflict occurred between the USSR and Germany, as a result of which the USSR occupied and destroyed all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany. And only the Anglo-American troops, who defeated Hitler and liberated the other half of Germany, did not allow the destruction and occupation of all of Europe

    And the children will believe it

    And the fact that “Ukrainians wanted independence, peacefully opposed Russia’s protege, who refused the presidency. And the Russians sent troops into Crimea and Donbass and attacked peaceful Ukraine, killing its inhabitants.”

    And they will believe it.

    And these are the “Historians” who TEACH HISTORY!!!
    Here is the scary thing.
  74. 0
    25 February 2016 10: 28
    Quote: tolian
    Mart, do a good job. Here still about words foreign, so persistently driven in our language, someone with knowledge of a question undertook. And it becomes embarrassing to watch and listen to our media. And no control! Is that why it is under-educated and completely illiterate climb on the screens, in publishing houses, on the radio? Is it why we are spiritually impoverished?


    I immediately remembered “His Excellency’s adjutant.”
    “We will do this... excrement!”
  75. +1
    25 February 2016 10: 30
    This is an enemy of the people and the state. Where are the intelligence services looking? The place of this figure in Kolyma is eternal! Remove this scum from the institute and ban him from teaching forever! Deprive of titles and jobs - forever!
  76. +2
    25 February 2016 10: 36
    The worst thing is that such topornins are the MAJORITY in any high-ranking universities.
    They lie blatantly, unprincipledly to young people.
    And they understand that in 20 years these young people will lead the country.
    After all, we hear the phrase “when I hear the word partisanship, I feel sick” more and more!
    Here it is - a consequence of the 90s.
    Why conquer us?
    So the Topornins and Makareviches will raise people like themselves, and in 20 years these “pupils” will bring them the country on a “silver platter”
    Only something tells me that not all of them will receive “a jar of jam and a bag of cookies” for this.
    The Anglo-Saxons are worse than the German fascists. And then they will no longer need “Makarevichs and Topornins” in such quantities.
  77. +1
    25 February 2016 10: 44
    How was it with Raikin? The assistant professor is stupid. But seriously, how was such an “associate professor” entrusted with teaching students at the most elite university in Russia? This is worse than a mistake - it's a crime. Is it any wonder...?
  78. +2
    25 February 2016 10: 49
    there is a God in the World!) I was watching the program and when Kolyan said this phrase, and everyone else chewed it (I understand, of course, that on air a person’s reaction is different, but sorry, everyone was “shot” here) I was thrown up with indignation and I really hope that this phrase will be cited somewhere in the future by Kolyusik as an argument of his complete ignorance of the material or a blatant lie. It was a shame for the other participants - not one brought the sinner to the ground. If Maria Zakharova were Kolyan’s opponent, after this phrase she would have razed him to the ground no worse than our VKS in Syria, and then there would have been no need to waste time on the transfer)
  79. +1
    25 February 2016 10: 50
    ... It’s somehow a little soft at the beginning of the article - “nickname” I would write “nickname” or, quite correctly, “drove”...
  80. +2
    25 February 2016 10: 53
    Take a look at his face, pardon me, and everything becomes clear. Liberal and gay European. For an instant “major” - just right!
  81. +5
    25 February 2016 10: 53
    Let's be honest - an associate professor at MGIMO, by definition, cannot be smart - that would be an exception. An associate professor at MGIMO is a person who knows how to become an assistant professor at this university, has the necessary connections for this, and nothing more. This prestigious university became a breeding ground for corruption, nepotism and nepotism already under Khrushchev. It was not for nothing that in the USSR petty leaders who had committed a crime were sent into honorable exile - to work as an ambassador somewhere. Against the backdrop of the ambassadors - “specialists”, such an exiled regional committee secretary looked like Gorchakov))) So it’s not surprising. As long as this university remains “the most prestigious”, not specialists, but “thieves” will work there. “MGIMO is not a university, it is a kindergarten for the children of senior management” - I don’t remember where I read it a couple of years ago, unfortunately, not mine)))
  82. +2
    25 February 2016 11: 11
    I swore from the bottom of my heart. ...
    Does not help…..
    Because this clown goes to work. It is also clear that there is no need to make a martyr out of him. They won’t solve anything with education, do they have so much time? While they decide how to teach children, these “smart guys” playfully shoot down our children on takeoff. We already have losses - one generation that requires surgical intervention in the soul. Children tend to grow, grow, and then become at the helm.
  83. +7
    25 February 2016 11: 18
    People, do you remember the dashing 90s? When did they buy the largest enterprises and entire ministries for pennies? Not to be unfounded: when the Black Sea died (which groveled before Basayev in Budennovsk), he, or rather his heirs, “suddenly” had more than 30% of the shares of Gazprom, and the head of LUKOIL, Vagik Alikberov, was the former last minister of oil of the USSR. And Potanin and Prokhorov are the owners of Norilsk. I remember how they “bought” it for $176 million, borrowed from a state bank using a fake passport. And their name is LEGION. Why am I saying all this... They all have money and children. These are not the children of Stalin and Beria, who after school went to colleges or technical universities. No, the children of today's nouveau riche and bandits went to MGIMO, Moscow State University, Leningrad State University, and Higher School of Economics. Parents pay! By the way, EBN’s granddaughter also tried to study at MGIMO, but apparently he realized that he could fuck youngsters without education, so he dropped out of the institute. And then we are surprised by werewolves in uniform in the Moscow Criminal Investigation Department, prosecutors near Moscow, the supply manager of the Prosecutor General's Office, who “sheltered” bandits in his house. They were recouping the money spent on their studies. By the way, in which university did Kadyrov become an honorary academician? But he was given the title because he began to slaughter Russian women and children two years before the start of the first Chechen war. After all, for these “feats” the GDP gave him an asterisk.
    1. +2
      25 February 2016 12: 21
      No, dear user3970. The children of today's nouveau riche do not study in our universities. They calmly stick out abroad. And with gusto. And their parents are not shy. You know, for example, this Mr. Andrey Viktorovich Guryev. A former Komsomol leader, a former “comrade-in-arms” of Khodorkovsky, a former senator of the Russian Federation, and the current owner of Phosagro. Last year I bought myself a small lock in the UK and it doesn’t cough. And miners in Kirovsk plow for next to nothing. And they can’t say anything, because migrant workers will come to take their place for even less money. How they will work is another question. But the locals can’t leave. It’s trite not to buy housing in the middle zone. But there is a type of ski resort.
    2. +2
      25 February 2016 12: 55
      Quote: user3970
      schools or technical universities. No, the children of today's nouveau riche and bandits went to MGIMO, Moscow State University , Leningrad State University , Higher School of Economics .

      Why are the physics department, chemistry department, mechanics department, and computer science department not at Moscow State University? Or do you not know such words?

      By the way, for reference, you don’t need to envy the one who pays, you need to study well:
      when my son entered the university for the VMIK competition there were 200 (TWO HUNDRED!!!) people per place, which did not prevent him from gaining the required score, but since I once taught there, he went to study at MAI.
  84. +2
    25 February 2016 11: 22
    It’s strange, but are you still surprised by such facts? Why didn't you know this before? Haven’t you come across such false facts before, for example, in Rezun’s books, in various television programs with the participation of Svanids, Gozmans and other Reiselreytuz and other dogs? Don’t daily lies and distortions flow from the echo of Moscow, from lies? This liberaloid tribe not only doesn’t like Russia, it hates it... Because someone dares to act differently from them, someone thinks differently from them. Because someone doesn’t stand half-bent in front of to all Westerners like them. In general, it’s people like our liberoids and shitcrats (not to be confused with democrats), I personally consider scoops
  85. +1
    25 February 2016 11: 43
    Why do we sometimes lose? Because the Law is not written to these creatures, but we are all trying to follow the Law. We must measure it with the same measure that is applied to us. Gouged out an eye? And we give you two, plus eggs to keep you from multiplying. They say correctly - it’s time for good to be with fists... powerful, reinforced concrete fists.
  86. 0
    25 February 2016 11: 49
    How long has this face of a traitor been flashing on the screens? It’s time to surround him with a vacuum of indifference and certain measures of influence!
  87. +1
    25 February 2016 11: 53
    The authorities keep such clowns for ballast and for their balanced position in key government positions. They are afraid like fire of a patriotically educated and trained generation, then everything will be done for them. So they hire such clowns to work in serious universities to organize a circus, so that the future political elite does not have clear and precise guidelines for the development of the country. In general, FEDYA from Shurik’s adventure is resting.......
  88. 0
    25 February 2016 12: 04
    In one word - CANDIDUB wassat
  89. +1
    25 February 2016 12: 35
    Frankly.
  90. +1
    25 February 2016 12: 36
    MGIMO has long been simply a necessary feint for the children of “career diplomats” from “diplomatic dynasties.” Their own people go there, they “teach” their own people, and after graduation, the children end up in sweet spots at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Our Foreign Ministry is a cesspool in which everyone is engaged only in their own personal interests and interests. In general, don’t pay attention, another viper on the corpse of the USSR, with the corresponding “assistant professors”.
  91. +3
    25 February 2016 12: 44
    Let's separate the flies from the cutlets.

    Cutlets:
    1. Judging by the article, he is a specialist in banking law and generally does not have to know history.
    2. Judging a person by his face is a rotten thing.
    3. Yes, among financiers and diplomats of those same nationalities, 99% is a given.

    Flies:
    1. In the teaching environment (at least at Moscow State University - I taught there for 10 years) it is considered extremely bad form to make (let alone persist in making) unfounded statements of which you are not sure. Actually, such people didn’t stay with us for long; I don’t know what it’s like at MGIMO these days.

    2. The arrogance, stupidity and snobbery of representatives of the liberal stratum has just gone off scale lately, but I think that’s why they need to be “shown” on television so that no one would ever, under any circumstances, vote for them.

    3. Teaching social sciences has been and will continue to be part of the information war. Liberals FIGHT against Russia, at least the Russia of which I am proud, but the information field is not limited to universities, schools, TV - it is not limited at all. This forum is also part of the information field, even the bench at the entrance is part of the information field. Remember that this is not just a field, but a battlefield, and then we will win.
    1. +3
      25 February 2016 17: 23
      Quote: bk316
      a specialist in banking law and generally does not have to know history.

      Well, once upon a time this information was included in 10th grade history. And no one has canceled self-education for an assistant professor.
      1. +2
        26 February 2016 11: 54
        No, of course, no one canceled self-education, but no one obliged it.

        Never obliged, or do you think that in the USSR after candidate minimum in history, has anyone checked what remains in your head, what is gone forever?
  92. +2
    25 February 2016 12: 51
    These are no longer liberals and not “citizens” in general. As it was written in the comments, these are citizens of another state. Their goal, living and working in Russia, is to harm everything that is good that is born in the country, to harm tirelessly, but for money. Sabotage and slow down all initiatives that harm their “state”. A lot depends on them and they skillfully use it. We still see them on screens, we develop disgust for them, we understand their essence. Let everyone see this abomination and appreciate it.
    1. +1
      25 February 2016 13: 13
      Quote: galakt
      These are no longer liberals and not “citizens” at all

      That's right, not liberals. A word suitable for them is a derivative of two words. Liberasty. And that already says it all.
  93. +2
    25 February 2016 12: 51
    I really hope that Vladimir Volfovich will fulfill his promise regarding this “associate professor.”
    A serious person must keep his word.
  94. +1
    25 February 2016 12: 54
    Quote: 454545
    only lustration will help here

    I think castration will also be beneficial
  95. +4
    25 February 2016 13: 26
    As long as the government team changes every six years, regardless of the quality of ministers and their work, such mole assistant professors will teach lies in our universities.
    It’s a pity that Zhirinovsky’s opinion on this topic doesn’t matter to anyone in power.
  96. +3
    25 February 2016 13: 26

    - Lev Evgenievich is an outstanding phenomenon, he is exceptionally savvy, he sings in all languages ​​like a bird, but for the same reason - there is no balance in his head.


    Personally, I don’t think that this statement is the result of incompetence or some kind of mistake. No, this is much worse, this is the position, the life position of a person, an emigrant in his Fatherland. The discrepancy in dates is not important, what is important is the belief that this is the only way it can be. And it’s very worrying for our youth, who are “cared for” by such mentors. They have already written about similar entities at the Faculty of Journalism, at the Higher School of Economics and other universities, crippling young souls.
  97. +3
    25 February 2016 13: 27
    What did you all expect from the sale of the Russian elite? Currently, any “expert” from this liberal pack is ready to justify any meanness, outright betrayal and theft in their country. And what is characteristic is that the children and grandchildren of the bosses of the former Soviet party apparatus are trying the most.
    We have no prohibitions on the profession, so such a “specialist” with his pack and roof can spoil for an indefinitely long time.
  98. +2
    25 February 2016 13: 48
    Gentlemen. People like Nadezhdin, Gozman, Raikhelgauz and the like clearly show us the attitude of this liberal opposition towards us and towards the country as a whole. And therefore, in a normal Russian, they cannot evoke anything other than a feeling of contempt and disgust. It seems to me, understanding It is Soloviev who takes them into his program. After all, they are pathetic windbags, working off the money of their Western masters.
  99. +1
    25 February 2016 14: 01
    Maybe it's time to fix something at the conservatory?
  100. VB
    +5
    25 February 2016 14: 23
    Yes, everything is obvious - all these “associate professors” are Topornins, Nadezhnins, Ryzhkovs, and their names are legion. Do you think they don’t know history? You are deeply mistaken, they know history very well, but they deliberately distort it, being “agents of influence” of America, and most of them are direct agents. Were these statements possible even twenty years ago? But against the backdrop of the general stupidity and undereducation of young people, inspired by the guarantor, the prime minister and Livanov, we will not see such pearls yet. The ancient Greeks understood perfectly well that a teacher was almost the most important profession in the state. The upbringing and training of youth is an arrow shooting into the future. To whom did we give education, to whom? Obvious traitors, with the connivance of the guarantor.

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