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The inimitable "Bellingcat" called the "guilty" of the crash of the Boeing 777 in the Donbass. They turned out to be ... Putin and Shoigu

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A group of storytellers from Bellingcat published another "report" about the crash of "Boeing-777" in the Donbass. This time, the representatives of the “investigation”, who do not go further in the discussion of “data” from social networks, decided to announce who they consider to be involved in striking the Malaysian airliner. The answer to this question Bellingcat gives already in the title of his "report": "MH17: suspected suspects and witnesses from the 53-th anti-aircraft missile brigade."


After long deliberation about who exactly struck the blow that led to the death of people near the village of Grabovo, the “experts” of Bellingcat come to an enchanting conclusion: the crash of airliners “guilty of the top leadership of the Russian Federation, including President Putin and Defense Minister Shoigu”.

The inimitable "Bellingcat" called the "guilty" of the crash of the Boeing 777 in the Donbass. They turned out to be ... Putin and Shoigu


From the summary in the "report" Bellingcat:
In accordance with probable the conclusion that the Russian "Buk" shot down MH17, the main responsibility for the crash of the plane "Malaysian Airlines" bears the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation together with the military command and the leaders of the self-proclaimed DNR and LC.


The word "probable" is key here ...

In the list of "guilty" Bellingcat lists almost the entire composition of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, while stating that the Buk installation was delivered from the Russian Federation to the territory of Ukraine by the military of the 53 brigade mentioned.

At the same time, Bellingcat does not comment in any way on the fact that just a month ago, a member of the Dutch parliament (the country in which the official investigation team works), referring to the special services, stated that Dutch intelligence does not have any data on the transfer of “Buk” from the territory of the Russian Federation to Ukraine, but there is irrefutable evidence that in the attack zone of the Malaysian airliner the Buk Armed Forces of Ukraine were the only combat-capable and active.

If Bellingcat will continue to issue such "reports" based only on certain notes in social networks, then in the new reports we can expect that the plane was completely "personally shot down by Putin from the personal" Buk "presented to him personally by Shoigu on the birthday party" .. .
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www.telegraph.co.uk
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 24 February 2016 14: 03 New
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    you can expect that the plane does "Putin personally shot down from a personal "Buk", presented to him personally by Shoigu on his birthday "..

    Undoubtedly, and fired straight from the shoulder! What is some kind of "Buk" for Putin? So, MANPADS type "Igla" smile
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 24 February 2016 14: 05 New
      29
      Lavrov forgot !!! He was a spotter! laughing
      D.eb.ly, b.lin!
      1. not Russian
        not Russian 24 February 2016 14: 19 New
        +3
        And who is charging? request
        1. Rosich333
          Rosich333 24 February 2016 14: 26 New
          +9
          laughed of course! Just tell me, who is IT? Why are they referred to as unquestioned authority?
          1. Blondy
            Blondy 24 February 2016 15: 31 New
            +4
            Quote: Rosich333
            Just tell me, who is IT? Why are they referred to as unquestioned authority?

            Copying
            Bellingcat by and for citizen investigative journalists
            (According to the fable attributed to Aesop, the mice were going to "cancel" the cat, and one cunning one suggested tying a bell to the cat so that the cat could be heard and all the mice scattered, everyone, of course, approved, but then the question arose, who would tie the bell (who bells the cat In general, a belling cat is an impossibly difficult task) translation somewhere roughly: Citizens journalists are leading the impossibly difficult investigations for citizens)
            So, despite the pathos, never mind - the professionals of the second oldest earn on the political panel, some sometimes call themselves panelist. It is not clear - and why is it such an abnormal agitation with them? It seems to be enough other news.
        2. amber-50
          amber-50 24 February 2016 14: 28 New
          +4
          Charger - Lenin.
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 24 February 2016 16: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: amber-50
            Charger - Lenin.
            he has an alibi - he died in 1924. and lies in the mausoleum.
            1. EFA
              EFA 24 February 2016 17: 32 New
              +1
              Thanks a lot for resourcefulness and humor! He laughed heartily. good
              1. Pravdarm
                Pravdarm 24 February 2016 21: 32 New
                0
                Quote: non-Russian
                And who is charging?
                Quote: amber-50
                Charger - Lenin.
                Quote: wasjasibirjac
                he has an alibi - he died in 1924. and lies in the mausoleum.

                He's just hitting! Encrypted!
                He is more alive than all the living!
                And at night he gets up, changes into camouflage and go ahead - charge! laughing
        3. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 24 February 2016 14: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: non-Russian
          And who is charging? request

          Of course Surkov.
        4. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 24 February 2016 14: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: non-Russian
          And who is charging?

          Who, who, a horse in a coat. Investigated, researched and not investigated. My name is never there, but it all started so well.
          In the list of “culprits,” Bellingcat lists almost the entire composition of the Russian Ministry of Defense,
          They indicated almost everyone except me. And I was the main performer there.
          ... while stating that the Buk installation was delivered from the Russian Federation to the territory of Ukraine by the military personnel of the aforementioned 53rd brigade.
          But everything was correctly noticed, you bastards. And the Buk missile launcher was indeed delivered from Russia. True, the bastards did not indicate the delivery time. After all, this machine is not assembled anywhere except the Russian Federation. And they did not indicate when these "Buks" were adopted by the Ukrop Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        5. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 24 February 2016 16: 06 New
          0
          Quote: non-Russian
          And who is charging?
          Kadyrov?
        6. rpek32
          rpek32 24 February 2016 17: 11 New
          0
          Quote: non-Russian
          And who is charging?

          So Rogozin laughing

          Mane, look at what clowns (s).
          do not believe the Russian Federation, then they must believe the Netherlands. otherwise it's already a schiz
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 24 February 2016 19: 47 New
            0
            Together they charged - on Buka just the rockets for four: Shaigu, Rogozin, Kadyrov and Peskov - everything converges, and the air defense system operator is Putin.
        7. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 February 2016 19: 44 New
          0
          Charger will be Rogozin.
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      3. Giant thought
        Giant thought 24 February 2016 14: 51 New
        +1
        With a blasphemy, these half-fools decided that they would pay attention to them now, otherwise they began to forget something about them.
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 24 February 2016 14: 06 New
      +8
      Of course they are to blame! They will also find witnesses who saw that Shoigu personally was pointing, and Putin personally pressed the start!
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 February 2016 14: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: vodolaz
        They will also find witnesses who saw that Shoigu personally was pointing, and Putin personally pressed the start!

        Bellingcat. When the cat has nothing to do, he imagines ... well, hereinafter. smile
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 24 February 2016 14: 50 New
        +7
        Today is a day of fun stories or what?
        I already laughed at the fact that Khodorkovsky "will regret and forgive Putin", and then there is this:
        the crash of the airliners “the top leadership of the Russian Federation, including President Putin and Minister of Defense Shoigu, is guilty.”
        laughing laughing laughing
        But about the one-person agency Bellingсat
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    3. Coconut Tima
      Coconut Tima 24 February 2016 14: 24 New
      +7
      Eliot Higgins (creator of the Bellingcat website) - Works on the basis of analysis of open sources: satellite images, video, etc. Higgins working method is to monitor Youtube channels
      In general, that anallytic
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 24 February 2016 14: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: Tim Coconuts
        Eliot Higgins (creator of the Bellingcat website) - Works on the basis of analysis of open sources: satellite images, video, etc. Higgins working method is to monitor Youtube channels
        In general, that anallytic

        Isn't it time to bring this analyst to court? Article: Slander. And witnesses can be hidden away and for a long time: "For knowingly giving false testimony. And let them have sex in gold mines, sunny Kolyma. This is not a joke, this is a slander against the state and in The United States can get a life sentence for this.
    4. 70BSN
      70BSN 24 February 2016 15: 01 New
      +9
      One question for them: what's in the black box ??? bully
  2. polite people
    polite people 24 February 2016 14: 03 New
    +4
    Liars from the land of liars. What can be expected from them. And the caravan is coming. The truth will come out anyway.
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 February 2016 14: 07 New
      -20 qualifying.
      Quote: polite people
      Liars from the land of liars. What can be expected from them. And the caravan is coming. The truth will come out anyway.

      Quote: polite people
      At the same time, Bellingcat does not comment on the fact that just a month ago, a deputy of the Dutch parliament (the country in which the official investigation team works), citing intelligence agencies, said that the Dutch intelligence had no data on the movement of Buka from the territory of the Russian Federation to Ukraine,

      Someone can comment?
      https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/80e03612c0fdf764d9422b
      e26cdf4b97/the-way-of-the-buk-3x2-in-june-2014/index.html
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 24 February 2016 14: 13 New
        11
        That atalef immediately jumped out his friends of different Poroshenko (Valtsman) and Groisman to defend? I suppose Poroshenko recently traveled to Israel to learn how to more convincingly lie after the downing of a civilian plane from Israel in a lie on this subject a lot of experience.
        1. atalef
          atalef 24 February 2016 14: 43 New
          -22 qualifying.
          Quote: quilted jacket
          That atalef immediately jumped out his friends of different Poroshenko (Valtsman) and Groisman to defend? I suppose Poroshenko recently traveled to Israel to learn how to more convincingly lie after the downing of a civilian plane from Israel in a lie on this subject a lot of experience.

          Padded jacket, place punctuation marks, it's not for you to knock on the drum laughing
          1. AlexAl
            AlexAl 24 February 2016 15: 39 New
            +1
            atalef - Learn Russian Grammar
            Quote: atalef
            Someone can comment?

            something, either, something is written through a hyphen someone is something, etc.!
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      2. Gardener91
        Gardener91 24 February 2016 14: 14 New
        +5
        “Uncle Petya, are you dk?” Can someone comment?
      3. genisis
        genisis 24 February 2016 14: 23 New
        +3
        What exactly do you comment on?
        All this set of photos and videos, or some part separately?
      4. Asadullah
        Asadullah 24 February 2016 14: 24 New
        +5
        Someone can comment?


        Dear Sholom, your link does not open.
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 24 February 2016 14: 39 New
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          Quote: atalef
          Can someone comment? Https: //s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/80e03612c0fdf764d9422


          be26cdf4b97/the-way-of-the-buk-3x2-in-june-2014/index.html


          1 - did not notice the movement of Russian equipment on the territory of Ukraine
          correct me if not right

          2 - equipment moves across the territory of Russia to the border with Ukraine, where it flares up
          conflict. Similarly, equipment can move through the territory of Estonia, Poland, Germany, Israel, etc.

          I can’t say anything else, maybe the unimportant commentator from me.
          It is better to turn to commentators in Ukraine - they will all say with confidence up to 100%



          Quote: Asadullah
          Someone can comment?


          Dear Sholom, your link does not open.



          Ok, but can later hang the computer
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            1. bulvas
              bulvas 24 February 2016 14: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: bulvas
              I can’t say anything else

              I have a simple question, but I do not live in those areas. Photographed Buk in Russia - are these real pictures and videos, or editing?
              That's the whole request for comment.



              I don’t live there either, but I fully admit that, due to the conflict in the neighboring country, Buki and other systems could be pulled

              Moreover, there was no such need before, since this border was calm and it was not required to protect it

              While in Israel, I saw military equipment on trailers on the roads several times, I saw fighters over the Dead Sea more than once, for example, military helicopters over the sea in the Tel Aviv area.




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          2. atalef
            atalef 24 February 2016 14: 46 New
            -9
            Quote: bulvas
            I can’t say anything else

            I have a simple question, but I do not live in those areas. Photographed Buk in Russia - are these real pictures and videos, or editing?
            That's the whole request for comment.
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 24 February 2016 14: 56 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: bulvas
              I can’t say anything else

              I have a simple question, but I do not live in those areas. Photographed Buk in Russia - are these real pictures and videos, or editing?
              That's the whole request for comment.


              You know that exercises in Russia take place almost all the time! Whole armies are being transferred from training ground to training ground! 150t. a man was lifted at once and transported not so long ago ... Photos can be made in millions, but in Russia! and then the "craftsmen" will do their dirty work.
          3. gray smeet
            gray smeet 24 February 2016 14: 49 New
            0
            With the same success, you can tie the movement of Israeli technology in Israel and then the conclusion - Israel shot down this Boeing! laughing Personally, Netanyahu was sitting at the remote control! wink And let Israel launder from this shit.
            1. atalef
              atalef 24 February 2016 14: 56 New
              -7
              Quote: gray smeet
              With the same success, you can tie the movement of Israeli technology in Israel and then the conclusion - Israel shot down this Boeing!

              I am not saying anything, they brought videos and photos. I want to know the opinion of local people - these are real or photo montage.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 24 February 2016 15: 11 New
                11
                Quote: atalef

                I am not saying anything, they brought videos and photos. I want to know the opinion of local people - these are real or photo montage.


                Clear.

                Then the counter question:

                - how to comment on the fact that to prove Russia's involvement in
                the destruction of Boeing, it would be much easier by providing materials
                US observations, interrogating the Ukrainian dispatcher, checking the condition
                Air Defense Forces of Ukraine.

                Everything is simple and straightforward, and there is no need to refer to "intelligence" from the Internet
                For a long time already would accuse the guilty


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                2. atalef
                  atalef 24 February 2016 15: 18 New
                  -7
                  Quote: bulvas
                  I see. Then the counter question:


                  I don’t need to ask questions, I won’t answer them, I don’t know.
                  What kind of excitement is so incomprehensible, although in my understanding one comment of a local comrade with words is enough, a video from Pupkin Street - it’s fake it looks different. And that’s it.
                  This is the only thing I want to know.
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              3. goose
                goose 25 February 2016 15: 54 New
                0
                These videos and photos are not tied to the place and time of the event. What is the point in them? No more than Obama’s barbecue movie.
          4. Asadullah
            Asadullah 24 February 2016 15: 10 New
            +3
            I can’t say anything else


            So no one can say anything from the very moment of the disaster. The only thing left to do is ask a question - cui prodest?

            The second question, conspiracy theories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHTw2R7aXDM

            You can certainly grin, but, the destruction of the Malaysian side was preceded by several articles from various propagandists of the vanguard of the media war with Russia. They discussed the possibility of destroying the number one side by some rebels or by mistake. The precedent was the case of the Polish president. As the saying goes, hell crashed. The fact is that for a long time I was looking for information whether such throws occurred regarding other well-known antagonists to the Western world and did not find. An inviolable rule of the world hostel has always been in force, tabooing such topics.

            And the very thing that struck me and made me seriously tensed was the expression on Putin’s face, with a statement immediately after the incident over the Donbass. He was astounded. Anyone can notice and compare this. He did not have such a face during the events in Ossetia, during the Chechen war, after Beslan. There was anger, but there was no over-surprise. The subsequent unprecedented measures of escorting our number one warships to Australia to the Big Twenty also raise many questions, this has never happened to anyone. Later, through his own channels, he learned that the plane was supposed to fly to Sochi.
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        3. atalef
          atalef 24 February 2016 14: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Asadullah
          Someone can comment?


          Dear Sholom, your link does not open.

          Good day, asadullah.
          I'm opening
          https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/80e03612c0fdf764d9422b

          e26cdf4b97/the-way-of-the-buk-3x2-in-june-2014/index.html
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 24 February 2016 14: 53 New
            0
            I'm opening
            https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/80e03612c0fdf764d9422b


            e26cdf4b97/the-way-of-the-buk-3x2-in-june-2014/index.html
            I have the same article request
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      5. Avtopilot
        Avtopilot 24 February 2016 14: 39 New
        +3
        Someone can comment?
        ends with the Shakhtinsky Rostov region or where?
      6. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 24 February 2016 14: 40 New
        16
        Quote: atalef
        Someone can comment?
        - why do you need comments on videos and photos without reference to the terrain?
        Better comment this -
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 February 2016 19: 55 New
          +1
          Judging by this picture that does not fit, that Buk had 4 missiles, and this Buk only had one and the color of the other was khaki, and this one was white.
      7. Truth
        Truth 24 February 2016 14: 41 New
        11
        atalef of course you are sorry, nothing personal, but ...
        Quote: coconut tim
        Eliot Higgins (creator of the Bellingcat website) - Works on the basis of analysis of open sources: satellite images, video, etc. Higgins working method is to monitor Youtube channels
        In general, that anallytic

        And here is your ...
        Quote: atalef
        Someone can comment?
        https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/80e03612c0fdf764d9422b


        e26cdf4b97/the-way-of-the-buk-3x2-in-june-2014/index.html

        The conclusion suggests itself - you’re there, in one team of the garden they are busy, infa from one, then the other only from tyrnet?
        1. genisis
          genisis 24 February 2016 14: 49 New
          +3
          Here about the "team members" http://www.ljrate.ru/post/24104/102899

          atalef, comment?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 February 2016 14: 55 New
            0
            Quote: genisis
            atalef, comment?

            There is nothing to comment on, Vatnik wrote an article.
          2. mirag2
            mirag2 24 February 2016 14: 56 New
            +2
            Here about the "team members" http://www.ljrate.ru/post/24104/102899
            -STRONG
            1. genisis
              genisis 24 February 2016 14: 59 New
              +1
              Almost as strong as the Bellingcat report laughing
          3. cap
            cap 24 February 2016 15: 10 New
            0
            Quote: genisis
            Here about the "team members" http://www.ljrate.ru/post/24104/102899

            atalef, comment?


            You can’t comment on this. Gluboookoooo oooochechen wassat
        2. atalef
          atalef 24 February 2016 15: 01 New
          -1
          Quote: Truth
          atalef of course you are sorry, nothing personal, but ...
          Quote: coconut tim
          Eliot Higgins (creator of the Bellingcat website) - Works on the basis of analysis of open sources: satellite images, video, etc. Higgins working method is to monitor Youtube channels
          In general, that anallytic

          And here is your ...
          Quote: atalef
          Someone can comment?
          https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/80e03612c0fdf764d9422b

          e26cdf4b97/the-way-of-the-buk-3x2-in-june-2014/index.html

          The conclusion suggests itself - you’re there, in one team of the garden they are busy, infa from one, then the other only from tyrnet?


          Here they got it. What are the problems with reading comprehension? What am I saying that the Russian Federation brought down a Boeing? this article has a link to photos and videos - the only fact, unlike the bots and scribbles in the article.
          Here is my question - the pictures are real (with reference to the area) or torn from the Internet.
          Are there any local ones? Can they say something? There is a landscape, houses, specific places
          1. gray smeet
            gray smeet 24 February 2016 15: 11 New
            +4
            I’ll simply write - the road to work - from work (I live outside the city) passes by the brigade of internal troops, and so, in the morning I try to leave early, since you can get into the convoy of military equipment going to the training ground, and you need to leave work in time in the evening - equipment returns - the benefit is a 60km training ground. I can take a picture at least every day, the piquancy also lies in the fact that the wagons go in the general stream for military equipment and the Ukino too (I watched many times and now also go). With skillful installation - God knows what can be shown by y-tube. Oh yes ... also military planes fly low - the airfield is nearby. Kapets, it seems all military secrets were given ...
          2. Dazdranagon
            Dazdranagon 24 February 2016 15: 14 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Are there any local ones? Can they say something? There is a landscape, houses, specific places
            - similar places. But here in the European part of the Russian Federation all places are similar to those in the video and photo. hi
          3. Avtopilot
            Avtopilot 24 February 2016 19: 36 New
            0
            Are there any local ones? Can they say something? There is a landscape, houses, specific places
            there was a holivar about the photo of the "beech", some argued that Snizhne (DPR) others - Krasnoarmeysk, South Africa
            1. bmv04636
              bmv04636 24 February 2016 22: 44 New
              +1
              Shary answered this beech for a long time.
          4. Gardener91
            Gardener91 24 February 2016 21: 14 New
            0
            Are you sure damn ???
          5. bmv04636
            bmv04636 24 February 2016 22: 53 New
            0
            https://youtu.be/hTaCbmX4ffQ
            Google to help and on the beech here he is, and it is clearly said whose he is and everyone knows this and the "light elves" too. Answering questions from the RF Ministry of Defense
            So, Antonov voiced the following, according to him, simple questions that ITAR-TASS leads:

            1. The Ukrainian authorities identified the perpetrators of the tragedy instantly, of course, in their opinion, these are militias. What is the basis of these conclusions?

            2. Can the official Kiev provide all the details of the use of the Buk systems in the combat area, and most importantly, why have these systems been deployed if the militias have no aircraft?

            3. What are the reasons for the inaction of the Ukrainian authorities to form an international commission, when will it begin to act? This is waiting for the entire international community.

            4. Are the representatives of the armed forces of Ukraine ready to present to international experts the documents on accounting for air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles in the ammunition of anti-aircraft missile systems? This is a very important question that will help us determine which systems were used against the Malaysian Boeing.

            5. Will the data of objective controls on the movement of aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force on the day of the tragedy of the international commission be provided?

            6. Why did the Ukrainian dispatchers allow the aircraft to be deflected to the north, in the direction of the so-called anti-terrorist operation, which is carried out by official Kiev against the people of the southeast of their country?

            7. Why was the airspace above the war zone not completely closed to civilian aircraft? Moreover, in this area there was no continuous field of radar navigation aids?

            8. Can the official Kiev comment on the message in social networks allegedly from a Spanish dispatcher working in Ukraine that the downed Boeing was accompanied by two Ukrainian military aircraft?

            9. Why did the Security Council of Ukraine start working with the recordings of the negotiations of the Ukrainian dispatchers with the Boeing crew and with the data of the Ukrainian radars without international representatives?

            10. How were the lessons of the previous similar disaster of the Russian Tu-154 over the Black Sea taken into account? "Then the entire leadership of Ukraine until the last minute denied the involvement of the country's armed forces in this tragedy. And only after we presented irrefutable facts, we proved who was the true culprit of that tragedy," the deputy minister added.
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  3. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 24 February 2016 14: 05 New
    +2
    And who will say where did the dispatcher who framed him go?
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 24 February 2016 14: 18 New
      +2
      And this is the State Secret of Ukraine. She was hidden and silence.
    2. gergi
      gergi 24 February 2016 14: 21 New
      +1
      According to the laws of the genre, it must be dug in a forest, not far from the control room.
  4. mpzss
    mpzss 24 February 2016 14: 05 New
    0
    Author, you forgot to post a picture that everyone is spreading on the Internet!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 February 2016 14: 17 New
      +3
      Benedict went into it, there they poured mud on Russia, ISIS and China. Sait created, as I understand it, under this case.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 24 February 2016 14: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Benedict went into it, there they poured mud on Russia, ISIS and China.

        Come on, it is clear for a long time that Boeing brought down the Kiev regime in order to provoke against Donbass and Russia, and the USA and Israel planned it, they have experience in such matters.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 February 2016 14: 46 New
          -2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          and planned it the USA and Israel at

          Padded jacket, I do not cease to be surprised at your stormy imagination.
          But I am even more surprised why you did not ascribe Israel to the fall of the Chelyabinsk meteorite.
        2. padded jacket
          padded jacket 24 February 2016 14: 47 New
          12
          For those who are not in the know and think that the Israeli regime is white and fluffy and is "offended" by various Arabs and terrorists.
          In fact, this is one of the most "bloody" regimes in the Middle East, which occupied the lands of Palestine, drove the Arabs from the land of its rightful owners and settled it with Jews from Europe.
          And now about the plane:
          33 years ago, the Israeli Air Force shot down a Libyan Boeing
          February 21 in Libya is celebrated as a day of mourning. On this day, in 1973, the Israeli Air Force shot down a Libyan civilian aircraft over Sinai - 108 of 113 people on board were killed.
          Around 12:00 the plane made an intermediate landing in Benghazi (eastern Libya). Since that time, 113 people were on board: 106 passengers and 7 crew members.
          13:30. On approaching Cairo, the plane fell into a sandstorm; orientation on the ground became impossible.
          14:01. One of the fighters fires a warning missile. Boeing changes course and follows fighters.
          14:09. Fighters shoot at the wings. The Boeing loses altitude and crashes into a dune while trying to make an emergency landing. 108 of 113 people on board are killed.

          Israel acknowledged its involvement in the tragedy only on February 24, when Cairo investigators deciphered the data of the "black box". Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff David (Dado) Elazar claimed responsibility for the order to attack the civilian aircraft. Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir then said to Elazar: "I want to tell you that I not only appreciate you, but also admire you."
          http://newsru.co.il/mideast/21feb2006/b114.html

          That's how the Israeli regime shot down civilian planes so that he has experience how to lie on this score and help to his government Poroshenko (Valtsman) is undeniable.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 February 2016 14: 50 New
            -3
            Quote: quilted jacket
            In fact, this is one of the most "bloody" regimes in the Middle East that occupied the lands of Palestine

            Padded jacket, and you in Palestine, when was the last time?
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 24 February 2016 19: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Padded jacket, and you in Palestine, when was the last time?

              That Alexander Romanov, too, began to send everyone somewhere. It’s better to tear yourself away from the keyboard and do what’s not useful lol
  5. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 24 February 2016 14: 05 New
    +5
    For them, Russia is to blame for the fact that it exists, how convenient it is when there is someone to blame.
    1. gergi
      gergi 24 February 2016 14: 23 New
      +4
      They, Western partners, their mother, when they look at the map, they are really being whipped by the sight of Russia. Hence the tantrums.
  6. Smoked
    Smoked 24 February 2016 14: 05 New
    +2
    That's right, you need to maintain a certain information background.
    1. 2С5
      2С5 24 February 2016 14: 39 New
      +5
      ... these creatures from Bellingcat and others like him should pray to Russia! She passed them "kudam does not let them die of hunger, and they earn money by turning ha" out and throwing him in our direction ... lol
  7. novobranets
    novobranets 24 February 2016 14: 06 New
    +7
    On this score Lavrov has already said a long time ago. "Deb ... bl ..." fool Capacitive and to the point. There is nothing to add.
  8. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 24 February 2016 14: 06 New
    +2
    "Putin personally shot down from his personal Buk, given to him personally by Shoigu on his name day."

    For sure! Shot down from a slingshot! This is the whole geyropa with Ukrainians seen!
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 24 February 2016 14: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      "Putin personally shot down from his personal Buk, given to him personally by Shoigu on his name day."

      For sure! Shot down from a slingshot! This is the whole geyropa with Ukrainians seen!


      Laughter, laughter, isn't it time to pull up such "pravdorubov" everywhere and in chorus for Faberge in the COURT ??? This shameless lie just got it !!! Maybe, having paid a lump sum, they will think about how to publish all sorts of speculations of paranoid schizoids on an unsubstantiated basis? And then everything gets off the hands (((((
      1. Starik72
        Starik72 24 February 2016 14: 50 New
        +1
        Dmitry. You can’t throw a scarf on each mouth! But here on the main mouth, it would be necessary to throw a scarf, but I do not know how to do this. Brothers tell me how you can do this. And then you read the message and some letters only spill out of your mouth.
    2. AlexTires
      AlexTires 24 February 2016 14: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      Alexandr2637 (1) Today, 14: 06
      "Putin personally shot down from his personal Buk, given to him personally by Shoigu on his name day."
      For sure! Shot down from a slingshot! This is the whole geyropa with Ukrainians seen!

      According to these fools, perhaps God created the world in 6 days. Perhaps with the approval of Putin ....
    3. 2С5
      2С5 24 February 2016 14: 40 New
      +1
      ... they even took a picture of it tongue ... only the film was lit request crying
  9. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 24 February 2016 14: 07 New
    +6
    Already even as a joke is not perceived. True, if they added that Chubais, who could not restrain Putin, was also to blame, it would be a fresh stream. I give the idea for free.
  10. Baloo
    Baloo 24 February 2016 14: 07 New
    +1
    Poroshenko and Kalomoisky Kremlin agents, they did all this.
    The inimitable "Bellingcat" soon tell the whole truth, incl. and about the fourth maidan. These are also the hands of the Kremlin, see on the radar screens. wassat
  11. square
    square 24 February 2016 14: 09 New
    +1
    We are to blame for all the troubles of this world probably. Only in Europe can they make an indictment based on probability theory.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 24 February 2016 14: 26 New
      +1
      The West sincerely believes that we are truly to blame for the whole world, because we own most of the world's natural resources. but we don’t want to give them away. and not only give, but also surrender themselves to the power of tolerance and democracy, with the subsequent ascension to another world, so as not to completely interfere with the triumph of the latter ...
      1. square
        square 24 February 2016 14: 29 New
        +1
        So let them come and try to take it!
  12. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 24 February 2016 14: 09 New
    +8
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    you can expect that the plane does "Putin personally shot down from a personal "Buk", presented to him personally by Shoigu on his birthday "..

    Undoubtedly, and fired straight from the shoulder! What is some kind of "Buk" for Putin? So, MANPADS type "Igla" smile
    1. 2С5
      2С5 24 February 2016 14: 43 New
      +2
      ...Yes! Kennedy also shot himself ... when he found out about the suicide of Louis Shishnatsatov ... request
  13. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 24 February 2016 14: 10 New
    +2
    The guys worked out the order, write crap they become the norm. No need to pay attention.
  14. MSL
    MSL 24 February 2016 14: 11 New
    +1
    I read it on Bellingcat. Neighing. But it is strange: 1. that not personally VVP and Shoigu pressed the buttons, 2. there are no "photos" of VVP for aiming from the Bug at a throw-up from the hand, Shoigu with a rocket on his shoulder.
  15. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 24 February 2016 14: 11 New
    +1
    Putin and Shoigu are "to blame" for the fact that you still live on this planet, and the "hot phase of World War III has not begun."
  16. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 24 February 2016 14: 11 New
    +1
    Putin is the emperor of the Dark Galaxy. laughing

    He also destroyed the chapel.
  17. raid14
    raid14 24 February 2016 14: 13 New
    +3
    What laws do not work for us? Embassies in these countries do not respond to a public insult to the head of state (Article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) do not file with local courts about slander and refutation of such articles in the media.
    1. Samen
      Samen 24 February 2016 14: 23 New
      +3
      then our laws do not work? Embassies in these countries do not respond to a public insult to the head of state (Article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) do not file with local courts about slander and refutation of such articles in the media.

      I support the question!
      How long will the Ministry of Justice be silent? It is clear that there are a lot of tabloid rags and you cannot squeeze all of them ... but a couple of "show raids" can be demonstrated? !!!
  18. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 24 February 2016 14: 14 New
    +1
    They whip up scum hysteria - provoke the "customer and owners" to the war!
  19. Beard
    Beard 24 February 2016 14: 15 New
    +8
    They say the truth, there is evidence .. Photos from social networks.
  20. 4ekist
    4ekist 24 February 2016 14: 16 New
    +1
    Are there adequate experts at Bellingcat? I doubt it.
  21. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 24 February 2016 14: 18 New
    0
    And what kind of office is this, Bellingcat?
  22. sgr291158
    sgr291158 24 February 2016 14: 20 New
    +1
    Truths like a snake’s legs cannot be found.
  23. Hooks
    Hooks 24 February 2016 14: 21 New
    +1
    Bellingcat is the brainchild of British blogger Eliot Higgins, a former accountant and once avid gamer from Leicester, in the north of England. (with)
    And why is this jaundice on the site?
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 24 February 2016 14: 28 New
      0
      And just that? And I thought ... Well, on ... him, this blogger. There are now such experts in Ukraine, every second ... laughing
      thanks for the info hi
  24. Served once
    Served once 24 February 2016 14: 21 New
    +1
    The futility of all conclusions of this type is that the events that have already taken place are being investigated and adjusted to the conjuncture of the moment. Why are there no radio communications with the board? Which of the Dnipropetrovsk dispatchers ordered the liner to change the route and fly over the combat zone? Why did the plane fly where the battles are going? Nobody needs it. That is how such "truthful" conclusions are born on the basis of social networks. And so that the United States, listening to everyone and everywhere, does not have satellite photos and intercepts of radio communications? It's just ridiculous. It's a pity for people not to return them.
  25. afrikanez
    afrikanez 24 February 2016 14: 23 New
    +1
    The Bellingcat earplugs probably stood with a candle, if that was the name of the culprits. fool
  26. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 24 February 2016 14: 25 New
    +1
    Putin and Shoigu are to blame. Well, who would doubt it.
  27. nord62
    nord62 24 February 2016 14: 25 New
    +1
    Why are you surprised? Is going full-scale information war sponsored mainly by "partners" (or in other words - by creatures) from the United States. American and European electorate with blinkered eyes and poisoned homosexual propaganda can hang any noodles - they have long forgotten how to look for information themselves, and even more so to think. You see for yourself - all thoughts come down to one thing - how sweet to devour, to put on a fashionable rag, etc. It is a pity that this trend has been intensifying over the past 20 years and more ...
  28. potalevl
    potalevl 24 February 2016 14: 27 New
    +1
    Here they are British little-talkers.
  29. AlexTires
    AlexTires 24 February 2016 14: 28 New
    +1
    Another sick fantasy ... Peace, I do not pity you ...
  30. Scout
    Scout 24 February 2016 14: 30 New
    +2
    what the court does when the suspects are confused in the testimony we know, but when the court itself is confused in the conclusions ... in my opinion it's time to change the court
  31. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 24 February 2016 14: 30 New
    +5
    Still not answered for Odessa
  32. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 24 February 2016 14: 32 New
    +1
    They personally sat on the wing and sawed it with jigsaws.
  33. ltx777
    ltx777 24 February 2016 14: 42 New
    +1
    Well, if Putin, Shoigu and all of Russia are to blame for all the evil on the planet, well, someone from Western countries, come to us, well, give us in the face, otherwise only ss..uns can yap like mongrel from around the corner
    1. Sober
      Sober 24 February 2016 15: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: ltx777
      well, someone from the western countries come to us, well, give us in the face, and then yapping

      And they give! Just how do the scoundrels, cowards, bastards. On the sly: intrigues, sanctions ...
      Scum! What is the honor they have already forgotten ...
      What has the world turned into?
  34. NordUral
    NordUral 24 February 2016 14: 42 New
    +2
    Hoopoes! .................................
  35. EvgNik
    EvgNik 24 February 2016 14: 47 New
    +2
    In accordance with probable conclusion

    We secured ourselves so that we could reverse.
  36. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 24 February 2016 14: 54 New
    +4
    Quote: atalef
    Someone can comment?

    And the fig, as you usually put it on all kinds of crap to comment on, you are great here "
    eksperd ", so comment, you can attract one more" greatest esperd, "call a prohessor", this brain will quickly "fall in love" with everyone here, besides, he needs to rise in ranks.
  37. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 24 February 2016 14: 55 New
    +3
    Putin does not need the Buk, he knocked the Boeing down with a stone. Or sneezed hard
  38. Sober
    Sober 24 February 2016 15: 02 New
    +2
    Tired of BUKinists!
  39. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 24 February 2016 15: 14 New
    +1
    I wonder who someone will surpass the lack of brains? Europe, USA or Ukraine?
  40. xoma58
    xoma58 24 February 2016 15: 15 New
    0
    The plane "was personally shot down by Putin from the personal" Buk "presented to him personally by Shoigu on his name day"
    And what’s cool, here we have a president. Well, if so, let them be afraid.
    In general, I am against paying attention to stupid mongrels who themselves do not understand what they are carrying.
  41. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 24 February 2016 15: 16 New
    0
    Shoigu held, and Putin beat ... Lavrov stood "on the watch" ...
  42. Taygerus
    Taygerus 24 February 2016 15: 32 New
    0
    another nonsense, western tantrums, meaning most likely the truth will soon pop up
  43. X Y Z
    X Y Z 24 February 2016 15: 35 New
    0
    It’s our fault. Any odious blogger can absolutely calmly blame the top leadership of Russia for any, the most vile sins and feel calm and confident. After all, he falls into the beloved western trend, and even pay money. There would have been another option if he had been invited to court and politely asked to present evidence or otherwise pay a substantial fine.
  44. Yuriy3005
    Yuriy3005 24 February 2016 15: 45 New
    +1
    And I have a photo, how I charged Shoigu, corrected Lavrov, and Putin pressed the start button, the photo shows where they shot, how it flew and wherever - and all this in one photo is visible! The proof is 100%, I myself took a picture, but I won’t show you, because it's a secret ...
    I only show it to my friends from the white house, I especially like this photo of Kennedy, he is in the 5th ward, he says it's a pity that they couldn’t take a picture of him like that ...
  45. koralvit
    koralvit 24 February 2016 15: 48 New
    +1
    No need to take offense at Bellingcat, do not take offense at fools. The print run is falling, we must urgently give the fried news, here is the group, mind you not a specific journalist, but a group, i.e. with collective irresponsibility, it produces such a pearl. They work for their layman, if you lie, they will not believe, but you lie a hundred times, they can also believe. No one will check. They have all the propaganda designed for this.
  46. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 24 February 2016 15: 49 New
    0
    "Bellingcat" and who comments on their stories?
  47. mintai_kot
    mintai_kot 24 February 2016 15: 52 New
    +1
    How much can you lie about the crash of this aircraft ?! I personally saw how it crashed, accompanied by two APU aircraft
    1. Egen
      Egen 25 February 2016 05: 31 New
      0
      Quote: mintai_kot
      How much can you lie about the crash of this aircraft ?! I personally saw how it crashed, accompanied by two APU aircraft

      so Russian was the latest technology, invisible)))
    2. Egen
      Egen 25 February 2016 05: 31 New
      0
      Quote: mintai_kot
      How much can you lie about the crash of this aircraft ?! I personally saw how it crashed, accompanied by two APU aircraft

      so Russian was the latest technology, invisible)))
  48. Evil 55
    Evil 55 24 February 2016 16: 04 New
    0
    Someone specifically confuses Poroshenko's "Bukh" with the Russian "Buk" ... Petenka, when in shock, is not yet such a "Bukh" is able to throw out ...
  49. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 24 February 2016 16: 23 New
    0
    The inimitable "Bellingcat" called the "guilty" of the crash of the Boeing 777 in the Donbass. They turned out to be ... Putin and Shoigu

    Yeah, and even Medvedev brought them rockets
  50. Don36
    Don36 24 February 2016 16: 31 New
    +1
    It reminds a famous joke: - Do you know the Dead Sea ?! - Putin killed ... Bandera shot down the Russian Tu-154 and Boeing they shot down ...