Washington and Moscow have agreed on a project of a cease-fire in the SAR

The United States and the Russian Federation signed a draft agreement, in accordance with which the ceasefire in the Syrian Republic should come with 27 February, reports RIA News with reference to Reuters.

The source of the agency confirmed that "the groups of the IG and Dzhebhat en-Nusra" (both prohibited in the Russian Federation) were excluded from the document. "

In turn, the Al-Jazeera Channel, citing its correspondent at the UN headquarters, said that "the sides in Syria must sign the document before Friday noon, February 26." According to the channel, the agreement "will soon announce (US Secretary of State) John Kerry."

Earlier, the source reported that the parties to the negotiations in Geneva reached agreement on the project, and now it must be approved at a high level. He noted that "the document will take effect within a week after its adoption."

Comments

[AdekvatNICK]

The Igilovites are in shock, they are not on the list, they’ve gone too far))

[Pravdarm]

There is still much to be done before 27! Push there, men!

[oleg-gr]

Sign and what? all together will comply? The Turks with the Saudis are pushing the Amaricos to get into Syria. Himself is somehow scary.

[vovanpain]

Quote: oleg-gr

Sign and what? all together will comply?

On the one hand, a truce is a necessary thing, the long-suffering people of Syria, at least a little rest from the war. And on the other hand, a number of questions arise, namely: Why does the truce not only concern ISIS and Jebhat an Nusra, these naturally need to be driven into the ground, but there are so many the fronts of Islam and the cutthroats will be cleaner than the ISIS, and now they can’t be driven into the ground, just why now, when the Assad’s army picked up the pace of the offensive, it finally turned out to be able to fight and then stop and do not shoot, as it used to be in Chechnya. there is no sense in all these negotiations, but the militants will regroup, strengthen, replenish resources and then have to be destroyed with great losses. Well, wait and see, maybe I'm a bore, but cats scratch something.

[Baikonur]

Quote: vovanpain

she finally finally managed to fight and then stop and do not shoot, as in her time in Chechnya. And from all these negotiations, there’s nothing to sense, and the militants will regroup, strengthen, replenish resources and then have to be destroyed with great losses. Well, wait and see, maybe I'm a bore, but cats scratch something.

I will remember how, just before Mariupol, MINSK stopped the DPR militias !!! Also "finally it was possible to fight!" Absolutely mirrored! So what ? Tyagomotin! Regroup the enemy! The USA also achieved this! Yo P R S T !!!!!!!

[Pereira]

Is very similar. Alone style. Enemies are again saved from imminent defeat.

[elmi]

also why right now, when Assad’s army picked up the pace of offensive, it finally turned out to be able to fight and then stop and do not shoot, as it used to be in Chechnya.

I will remember how, just before Mariupol, MINSK stopped the DPR militias !!! Also "finally it was possible to fight!"

And I remember they stopped almost in a suburb of Tbilisi in the 08.08 war
I do not want to think that we are bending to the west ....

[GRAY]

Quote: elmi

And I remember they stopped almost in a suburb of Tbilisi in the 08.08 war

Um, but what, Tbilisi had to be taken?
For what purpose - I would like to know.

[elmi]

So to speak, to realize to the end the idea of ​​peace enforcement with the subsequent peaceful elections of the authorities and the president of Georgia. And if you put bluntly put loyal power in Georgia in relation to Russia, but the West grasped this alignment and got out of his skin just to keep Saakashvili at the helm of power .Who knows if our scenario worked, then there might not be a coup in Ukraine

[GRAY]

Quote: elmi

So to speak, to realize to the end the idea of ​​peace enforcement with the subsequent peaceful elections of the government and president of Georgia.

But this has happened so. I don’t think that in order to just speed up the process, it was worth putting people.

loyal power in Georgia in relation to Russia

You can’t attach your head to the shoulders of every Georgian. How long would that power last? Too much scope for manipulation opens - the invaders and all that ...
It is unreasonable to spend resources in order to achieve a temporary and unstable result.

[elmi]

But this has happened so. I don’t think that in order to just speed up the process, it was worth putting people.

Well, let's just say our soldiers did not lay their heads down for the sake of bringing a convenient government to power, although we were one step away from that. The peacekeepers were attacked and they were the first to lay down their heads. I think when the soldiers, in fact, in front of the "nose" are deprived of the final victory by "peace treaties", they are not delighted with this

You can’t attach your head to the shoulders of every Georgian. How long would that power last? Too much scope for manipulation opens - the invaders and all that ...
It is unreasonable to spend resources in order to achieve a temporary and unstable result.

But the West has spent resources having seated a convenient government through a color revolution and without asking the majority of the people, actually imposing it under false rainbow ideas, i.e. fooled the majority of the people, as it later did in Ukraine and the West has achieved its goal. In Crimea, they made an effort and organized the right elections and everything worked out, thank God without sacrifices, and the result is our Crimea and our own power in Crimea and not dill

[GRAY]

Quote: elmi

,those. fooled most people

In Ukraine, they fooled themselves, and those who thought were sitting at home and watching on TV how Natsik climbed their neck.

In general, in all the former republics, something similar happened during the collapse of the USSR - like "we will work only for ourselves", "oh, we will live." I don't understand why I should be worried about the fate of these people, if they wanted to return, they would have returned long ago.

There is no need to compare with Crimea, the population there was always loyal to Russia, and Ukrainians did not like the Ukrainians there.
I have relatives in Evpatoria, so I heard a lot of "kind" words from them about MOV and Ukrainians back in the 80s

[elmi]

There is no need to compare with Crimea, the population there was always loyal to Russia, and Ukrainians did not like the Ukrainians there.

The example with Crimea was cited as an opportunity to peacefully change the government, perhaps with a little more effort it was possible then to change the government in Tbilisi. The people are not always asked what kind of power they should love. We all know this by our own example, when they chose Yeltsin more than once, then the people "opened their eyes" but there was no opportunity to change the government, because we all know perfectly well how elections are held, as it wins not the one who gets the most votes, but the one who counts it.
I am sure the people in Ukraine over time, they felt who they brought to power and regrets that they changed power, it turns out that the people are "ripe" and are ready to change the power to a pro Russian one, but there is no way! Since that power simply will not leave its place. So it turns out that everything is learned in comparison and on our own skin

[silver_roman]

I am afraid that if a lull begins in Syria, then again the fire will break out in the Donbas or elsewhere. The hands of the states will be freed ...

[hedgehog in the fog]

Baikonur, you just voiced my thought, 100% adored with you

[GRAY]

Quote: Baikonur

Tyagomotin! Regrouping the enemy!

This game can be played together. Ukrohunta wanted to get a respite to get excited, but Donbass is on Serbian Krajina - it cannot be isolated like, at one time, Serbs.
There will be no Croatian scenario. Therefore, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting shelling - they are trying to get answers to determine what forces and means will be opposed to them.

In the photo is the technique of the 10th artillery brigade of the LPR.

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1752427.html

[GRAY]

Quote: vovanpain

: Why the truce does not concern only ISIS and Jebhat an Nusra, these naturally need to be driven into the ground, but there are so many all kinds of fronts of Islam and thugs cleaner than ISIS

To begin with, these groups will have to be designated - that they say, here they are, here is their area and they want to participate in a truce. After that, Russians or Americans will establish emergency communication channels with them so that the Basurmans could complain about their neighbors.
If they are not designated - they will receive on the cumpole and further.
If they talk about a truce and at the same time conduct hostilities, they will also receive a kumpol, despite the screams in the media and all sorts of "concerns" - simply, if such phenomena are massive, then there will be no ceasefire - that's all ...

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: vovanpain

Why is not the truce only ISIS and Jebhat en Nusra,

and other terrorist organizations recognized as such by the UN Security Council,

Quote: vovanpain

why right now when Assad’s army picked up the pace of the offensive,

Because Turkey is likely to invade

[nazar_0753]

Quote: vovanpain

Quote: oleg-gr

Sign and what? all together will comply?

On the one hand, a truce is a necessary thing, the long-suffering people of Syria, at least a little rest from the war. And on the other hand, a number of questions arise, namely: Why does the truce not only concern ISIS and Jebhat an Nusra, these naturally need to be driven into the ground, but there are so many the fronts of Islam and the cutthroats will be cleaner than the ISIS, and now they can’t be driven into the ground, just why now, when the Assad’s army picked up the pace of the offensive, it finally turned out to be able to fight and then stop and do not shoot, as it used to be in Chechnya. there is no sense in all these negotiations, but the militants will regroup, strengthen, replenish resources and then have to be destroyed with great losses. Well, wait and see, maybe I'm a bore, but cats scratch something.

In fact, as it seems to me, this all in practice looks like a rather meaningless thing. We continue to bomb ISIS and al-Nusra -> the Saudis and Americans continue to howl that we are destroying not the targets that are needed, but the peaceful opposition -> we are resuming the bombing of those targets that we ourselves consider terrorists, since the Americans will refuse to share intelligence on IS targets ... As a result: there is a document, for show, but a truce - alas. It seems that the media will travel on this topic for a long time - whoever is more convincing to prove that the truce broke down through the fault of the opposite side, he won

[marl]

Quote: vovanpain

also why right now, when Assad’s army picked up the pace of offensive, it finally turned out to be able to fight and then stop and do not shoot, as it used to be in Chechnya.

And only in Chechnya, in Ukraine, the same thing, and more than once.
The scheme is simple, as old as the world. The conflict is brewing, we propose an agreement peacefully, we are told none of your business, we say whatever you like, observe for a while, then enter. When opponents find themselves in an uncomfortable position, they immediately recall that we spoke about the ceasefire earlier and take the initiative to talk about it. I see it something like this.

[Wheel]

Quote: vovanpain

also why right now when Assad’s army picked up the pace of the offensive, it finally succeeded in fighting and then stop and do not shoot, as it used to be in Chechnya. And from all these negotiations there’s no sense and the militants will regroup, strengthen, replenish resources with heavy losses they will have to be destroyed then. Well, wait and see, maybe I’m a bore, but cats scratch something.

Namely, as in Chechnya, as 15 km from Tbilisi, as in Minsk-1 and Minsk-2 ...
Rake run or deliberate deflection in front of "partners"?

[DMB_95]

Correctly cats scratch. Me too. It was impossible to agree to a truce. Proven way to miss the initiative and victory in the war.

[bannik]

For 40 aircraft (and at first even less) about 7000 combat (not training) sorties in 4 months! 4 months of offensive battles of the Syrian army. It's time to service / repair / replace equipment, replenish b / c, staff the army of the ATS, and much more needs to be done. And there we will see. Moreover, we do not possess all the information.

[Giant thought]

Apparently, this agreement will have a short life, because in Syria there are no one out of control gangs, so they will bury this truce.

[SRC P-15]

Due to the fact that the conversation with the United States about the ceasefire began at the initiative of Putin, it turns out that he had no other choice to stop the Turkish invasion of Syria. And now Turkey is in limbo: you can’t violate the ceasefire and you won’t abandon your terrorists. In general, our president asked Erdogan the task. This is my opinion.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Due to the fact that the conversation with the United States about the ceasefire began at the initiative of Putin, it turns out that he had no other choice to stop the Turkish invasion of Syria. And now Turkey is in limbo: you can’t violate the ceasefire and you won’t abandon your terrorists. In general, our president asked Erdogan the task. This is my opinion.

Turkey could "twist business" in Syria. Not at all noble.
Your very reasonable guess I warmly support you.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

In general, our president asked Erdogan

as our Foreign Ministry says - "the ball is on the side of partners."

[elmi]

truce began at the initiative of Putin

Perhaps the West, gave an opportunity or hinted that we would be the first to speak of a truce, to give an opportunity to save face

And now Turkey is in limbo: you can’t violate the ceasefire and you won’t abandon your terrorists. In general, our president asked Erdogan

Perhaps so, but I remember Germany was not embarrassed by the Soviet-German non-aggression treaty of the 1939 of the year or, as it is called in the West, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
attacked and not embarrassed. In the east, they always respect power everywhere .. If our government officially declares that Syria is our ally and the attack on Syria will be regarded as an attack on Russia, and Russia will use all types of weapons, including tactical nuclear weapons. Then the West and Turkey will be deceived, the West is not ready for such a development of events. Only tough politics! With wolves live on wolf howls

[Arbogast]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Due to the fact that the conversation with the United States about the ceasefire began at the initiative of Putin, it turns out that he had no other choice to stop the Turkish invasion of Syria. And now Turkey is in limbo: you can’t violate the ceasefire and you won’t abandon your terrorists. In general, our president asked Erdogan the task. This is my opinion.

Erdogan marked the recipient's "red line" and Putin began a conversation with the United States about a truce .. But how can you not get off with tomatoes ??

Quote: elmi

Perhaps the West, gave an opportunity or hinted that we would be the first to speak of a truce, to give an opportunity to save face

Or maybe (I suppose) the West made it clear, hinted that Russia would be the first to speak of a truce, to give an opportunity to preserve the face of GDP .. ?!

[gladcu2]

SRC

You also forgot the third option.

The GDP warned the nation in advance that all efforts for a peaceful settlement were made at the highest level. And if the contract is violated, then there will be no other way out.

And this is not worth relaxing. Still just beginning.

[GRAY]

Quote: Thought Giant

Apparently, this agreement will have a short life, because in Syria there are no one out of control gangs, so they will bury this truce.

To begin with, the All-Syrian census of barmaleys will be carried out - anyone on the list can be wetted.
Because they have no documents.

[Nikolay K]

The ceasefire will become a litmus test for determining the degree of "moderation" of the opposition: stopped resistance and is ready for negotiations - please, if you continue to fight, you must be destroyed.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: Thought Giant

Apparently, this agreement will have a short life, because in Syria there are no one out of control gangs so they will bury this truce.

and I think it’s on our hands.
We (Russia) can at least somehow influence Assad and that part of the opposition that is fighting the "barmaley" and from this side there will be a ceasefire (I think)
and the rest of the position about which "partners" constantly repeat
not our problem. you stand up for them, you hold back
and we will see
=======
I hope that my thoughts are clear

[atalef]

Quote: oleg-gr

Sign and what? all together will comply? The Turks with the Saudis are pushing the Amaricos to get into Syria. Himself is somehow scary.

I don’t know, I think it doesn’t even matter, Putin introduced the videoconferencing system to Syria not to save Assad or Syria. But to achieve equal treatment after the Crimea he achieved this, now I think the settlement will be transferred to political region, Assad will certainly go away -I think against this background, the West and America will stop questions about the Crimea.
I so roughly see this development

[cap]

Quote: atalef

Assad, of course, they’ll leave — I think against this backdrop, the West and America will stop questions about the Crimea.
I so roughly see this development

You have to understand that after removing Assad they will try to "leave" our base in Tartus.
I think that pointing to illegitimate groups in the text will simply allow Americans to poke Erdogan’s nose to stick to a ceasefire. This paper is more about the actions of the US and Russian VKS coalition. They are embarrassed to fly accompanied by Russian airplanes. Everything will be the same with Crimea and sanctions. An abscess of problems at the borders of Russia was always treated surgically, and not for this was created by the West. Hopes that utopia will resolve itself.
The text of the ceasefire agreement is here.
http://www.mid.ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/

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Best regards

[atalef]

Quote: cap

You have to understand that after removing Assad they will try to "leave" our base in Tartus.

I don’t think the question is who and how will rule after Assad.
Although it is clear that negotiating with the Arabs is to deceive yourself. In general, I am still confident in the collapse of Syria.
Therefore, the base will remain, but of course there will be no development. Who is willing to invest in the unknown?

Quote: cap

I think that pointing to illegitimate groups in the text will simply allow Americans to poke Erdogan’s nose to stick to a ceasefire

Erdogan is primarily concerned about the Kurds.
The hope that Russia will cope with this (or someone else) is generally nil. Syria is for years and years.
And no one knows what will end there (with the exception of one - Assad will not)

Quote: cap

This paper is more about the actions of the coalition of the United States and Russian VKS

the Americans continue to bomb without problems, the fact is that ISIS is the border with Iraq and the eastern regions of Syria - Assad hardly contacts ISIS.
Only with Nusra.

Quote: cap

Hopes that everything will resolve itself utopia.

Quote: cap

Best regards

Mutually

[Nikolay K]

Yes, the minimum task is completed. But there are maximum tasks.

[vovanpain]

Quote: atalef

, Putin introduced the videoconferencing system in Syria not for TGO that would save Assad or Syria

And why, just like to play war games?

Quote: atalef

Assad will surely leave

Again you’re vanging, aren’t you tired yet? And so on the holiday of all Israelis who served in the Soviet Army.

[atalef]

Quote: vovanpain

Quote: atalef, Putin introduced the videoconferencing system to Syria not for the sake of saving Assad or Syria But why, just like to play war games?

no damn what would Assad save
Syria is the way to come out into the light and that would begin to talk with Russia (USA) - there is no more reason

Quote: vovanpain

Vanga again, aren't you tired yet?

And what, something has changed in Syria?

Quote: vovanpain

And so with the holiday of all Israelis who served in the Soviet Army.

Mutually

[Deniska999]

And the partition of Syria.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: atalef

I don’t know, I think it doesn’t even matter, Putin introduced the videoconferencing system to Syria not to save Assad or Syria

Strange, but about 4 months ago you claimed the opposite.

[atalef]

Quote: Observer 33

Quote: atalef

I don’t know, I think it doesn’t even matter, Putin introduced the videoconferencing system to Syria not to save Assad or Syria

Strange, but about 4 months ago you claimed the opposite.

I never said that.
From my first comment there was only one conversation.
The introduction of the videoconferencing system for purely political purposes of Putin, which would bring him out of isolation.
There is no more reason.

[yushch]

Quote: atalef

Quote: oleg-gr

Sign and what? all together will comply? The Turks with the Saudis are pushing the Amaricos to get into Syria. Himself is somehow scary.

I don’t know, I think it doesn’t even matter, Putin introduced the videoconferencing system to Syria not to save Assad or Syria. But to achieve equal treatment after the Crimea he achieved this, now I think the settlement will be transferred to political region, Assad will certainly go away -I think against this background, the West and America will stop questions about the Crimea.
I so roughly see this development

This is one of the reasons for the start of serious military assistance to Syria. Do not forget that in that region Russia has the only friendly state, if not more, and if Russia merges it, no one in that region will have close relations with us. to know the mentality of peoples living around.
Well, they always speak on equal terms with equal strength, it has been at all times since the advent of mankind.

[atalef]

Quote: yushch

This is one of the reasons for the start of serious military assistance to Syria. Do not forget that in that region Russia has the only friendly state, if not more

Syria became friendly after she needed something, before that she hadn’t reacted to Russia in any way (after the collapse of the USSR) and, moreover, Assad (dad) just stopped paying debts without any explanation
Russia without any problems could restore its position in the BV without Assad.
Having tied up to help the Alawites, she contrasted herself with the Sunnis, and this is 90% of Muslims.
I consider this a cotostrophic error.
Betting on the weak (on BV) is a very big problem.
But Assad is weak.tk rests solely on the videoconferencing, Hezbollah and Iran. --- all Shiites.

Quote: yushch

if Russia merges it, no one in that region will have close business with us

And so it will not be. Assad is not a figure for which you can earn * respect * in BV.

Quote: yushch

Do you really not know the mentality of the peoples living around

That's why I say it. In the face of the Sunnis (and I contact them very often) - Assad’s support is very = very bad

Quote: yushch

Well, they always speak on equal terms with equal strength, it has been at all times since the advent of mankind.

So I’m saying that at the moment when the United States sits at the negotiating table with Russia --- the problems in Syria will recede into the background.
The main thing for Putin is recognition of the Crimea. the way out of sanctions and not the spread of NATO to Ukraine, if these positions are closed, the Assad will be thrown to feed the dogs like a gnawed bone.

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: atalef

So I’m saying that at the moment when the United States sits at the negotiating table with Russia --- the problems in Syria will recede into the background.
The main thing for Putin is recognition of the Crimea. way out of sanctions and not spreading NATO to Ukraine, if these positions are closed, Assad will be thrown to feed

Recognize Crimea for Russia and NATO non-proliferation, maybe this is exceptional and will go. Yes, and that is tacitly, unofficially, that is to say (at least for a while, until the situation inside the Independent will somehow resolve. And in Europe they will not forget about the Independent) But the sanctions are unlikely to be lifted in the near future. Do not introduce new ones - the maximum that they can promise. And so at least some kind of leash should be at the Yankes. At least while GDP is in power. They can unofficially turn a blind eye to violations, but it is unlikely to officially cancel.

[yushch]

Quote: atalef

Quote: yushch

This is one of the reasons for the start of serious military assistance to Syria. Do not forget that in that region Russia has the only friendly state, if not more

Syria became friendly after she needed something, before that she hadn’t reacted to Russia in any way (after the collapse of the USSR) and, moreover, Assad (dad) just stopped paying debts without any explanation
Russia without any problems could restore its position in the BV without Assad.
Having tied up to help the Alawites, she contrasted herself with the Sunnis, and this is 90% of Muslims.
I consider this a cotostrophic error.
Betting on the weak (on BV) is a very big problem.
But Assad is weak.tk rests solely on the videoconferencing, Hezbollah and Iran. --- all Shiites.

Quote: yushch

if Russia merges it, no one in that region will have close business with us

And so it will not be. Assad is not a figure for which you can earn * respect * in BV.

Quote: yushch

Do you really not know the mentality of the peoples living around

That's why I say it. In the face of the Sunnis (and I contact them very often) - Assad’s support is very = very bad

Quote: yushch

Well, they always speak on equal terms with equal strength, it has been at all times since the advent of mankind.

So I’m saying that at the moment when the United States sits at the negotiating table with Russia --- the problems in Syria will recede into the background.
The main thing for Putin is recognition of the Crimea. the way out of sanctions and not the spread of NATO to Ukraine, if these positions are closed, the Assad will be thrown to feed the dogs like a gnawed bone.

You will probably agree that the majority of the Sunnis are SA, Qatar, Emirates. Iran is behind the Shiites. How can Russia take the side of one or the other without entering into direct confrontation with the sponsor states of these Islamic movements ??? I think from the point of view geopolitics are much more complicated than you and I think. The selection of the Alavites I think is not accidental, just like it or not, they led Syria for more than a decade. You can argue for a long time about the legitimacy of the Assads, but they have been recognized throughout the world and have done business with them, and they respected all religions at home. Of course for Israel, the Assad family is a throat for well-known reasons, but I think Russia’s choice in favor of Assad is by no means accidental, even if he leaves, knowing the Darkest one can safely say that the receiver operation has already been launched.

[Nikolay K]

Well done, our diplomats. If a truce really helps the beginning of the peace process in Syria, which, however, is not a lot of chances, then Russia will show the whole world that only it is able to REALLY restore order. In addition, neither Turkey nor the Arabs will now dare to invade Syria, as this will be a direct violation of the Russian-American agreements. At the very least, we will gain time, and now it’s right for us to prepare for any scenario in Syria. Moreover, the main supply channel for militants from Turkey is blocked and the initiative is on our side.

[Al_oriso]

Quote: oleg-gr

Sign and what? all together will comply? The Turks with the Saudis are pushing the Amaricos to get into Syria. Himself is somehow scary.

In my opinion, if Syria, Russia, Turkey, Iraq, etc. cease fire, then the terrorists will only intensify their actions and will be very satisfied. The meaning of this truce is ambiguous.

[gergi]

Exceptional next villainy cook. When the State Department begins to sing sweetly, it means that another dirty trick has already suffered. Their policies are built on continuous lies. Otherwise, they can no longer. Previously, they managed to hide the grin of a hyena under a sheep's skin, but the skin was peeled off.

[svp67]

Quote: Pravdarm

There is still much to be done before 27! Push there, men!

And after 27, Assad opens the road to Raqqa ... That's when it will be necessary to wish them luck in the battle.

[Aleksander]

The fact of such an agreement is alarming in that it shows that all matters began to be handled manually by individual large players and WITHOUT UN Security Council. This is actually recognition of the degradation of the UN as a tool to deter war and degradation of the system of international relations.

[Gennady Alexandrovich]

Only two powers remained - a rich USA, and a poor Russia

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Gennady Alexandrov did you want to say them with this bunch in the air? ???

[Gennady Alexandrovich]

US hegemony ends. Russia's influence will increase

[serezhasoldatow]

You, Uncle Gene, I'm sorry ???!

[APASUS]

Quote: Pravdarm

There is still much to be done before 27! Push there, men!

Where to catch?
What to reap?
This is a purely political move, which shows everyone the desire of the participating countries to a peaceful solution to the Syrian problem.
A ceasefire does not apply to terrorist groups.
This is of course a controversial issue, but the Americans guaranteed the mapping of the location of the groups supporting the armistice. In fact, it will be clear who is where and by what forces.
And so it is necessary to push the rot.

[Alex_Rarog]

To terrorists only death! not any help!

[INVESTOR]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

The Igilovites are in shock, they are not on the list, they’ve gone too far))

Right now, they will quickly change hands, we’ll say not IG, we’re peaceful)) It’s a pity I can’t squeeze these creatures, again politics intervened ..

[Dryuya2]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

The Igilovites are in shock, they are not on the list, they’ve gone too far))

but on the UN list
then Russia was compared with Isis and Ebola - is Syria’s turn now?
http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160223/1378997383.html
UN: ISIS and Syrian authorities commit crimes against humanity
The UN Independent Commission of Investigation of Crimes believes that Syria is "on the brink of collapse" because, according to it, the government and terrorists ignore the provisions of the latest Security Council resolutions.
MOSCOW, 23 Feb - RIA Novosti. War crimes in the five-year Syrian conflict are widespread, and the Syrian government and militants of the Islamic State terrorist group (IS, banned in Russia) continue to commit crimes against humanity, according to the report of the UN Independent Commission of Investigation of Crimes.
"Gross violations of human rights and international humanitarian law continue and are intensified by absolute impunity," Reuters quoted an extract from the report. In addition, it is noted that "the provisions of the latest UN Security Council resolutions remain largely unnoticed, unfulfilled."
"Crimes against humanity continue to be committed by government forces and ISIS. War crimes are widespread," the document says.
"Syria is on the brink of collapse. Indiscriminate ... attacks on civilians must end," the report said.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

The Igilovites are in shock, they are not on the list, they’ve gone too far))

What is the difference when pure zrada? The barmalei did not expect such a betrayal from Western sponsors and curators. Now Daesh will write a complaint to the UN, as the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda did. With the demand to recognize them as moderate opposition and, in general, they are children.

[Deniska999]

The Syrian army is being slowed down just a step away from completely clearing Latakia and entering Idlib, continuing the fighting in Daraa, where the Syrians liberated most of the city. The truce is very dangerous now. A powerful group remains in Idlib. Moreover, the so-called "moderate" can act in conjunction with al-Nusra and even with IS (yesterday's attack on the Aleppo highway). How to observe the truce in this case?

[Sid.74]

I think everything, how much the myth of their exclusivity, exceptional humanity and humanity sat down in European and American heads, since the coalition of their 60 countries since September 2014 has been fighting IS in Syria, and has not achieved a damn thing. Having destroyed the destruction of the infrastructure of Syria and endless victims among civilians, and the territory of the IG expanded.

They got to the point that Alcaida fragments in the form of the IG and En-nusry are called opposition. And they are trying to present the UN with a legitimate side, then put it out as freedom fighters.

The world has approached such a line, after which there will already be a global batch. And the Americans cannot understand this, but they persistently continue to eat the cactus.
If only Sanders had won in the US, maybe old Merkel could be pushed far away together with Oland. This idiocy of the American and EU bureaucracies is simply unbearable.
Although stopping major hostilities in Syria, will entail a resumption of the database in the Donbass. There is no need to have seven spans in the forehead. And, judging by everything, Ukraine has no intention of sobering, the garbage will continue to suffer ...

[rpek32]

Syrian Minsk seems. well

[GYGOLA]

No prisoners, that's our agreement on Syria!

[Blondy]

Americans, of course, can say anything, even jointly agreed with Russia. But, apparently, this time they were doing a lot of fun trying to pose as controllers of the situation. How are they going to accept the consent is not a truce, if Assad made it clear that anyone who pokes the invitations bases is an aggressor. There, it seems, in some places a secret American spenase hangs around and ours even promised not to bomb. But the Syrians did not give any promises. And only the UN Security Council can force them not to be touched, and this is a long and very dreary mstorya. Yes, and illegal saboteurs in the role of intermediaries - it looks too dumb too. In general, it will be interesting to see.

[marlin1203]

Like it or not, but in almost any batch in the world, Russia and the United States finally agree, although they are not parties to the conflict ...

[kodxnumx]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

The Igilovites are in shock, they are not on the list, they’ve gone too far))

I’ll tell you off topic even without reading the article, I’m ready to go out into the city and ask our governor to ask him to show a documentary film America in Russian battles for victory! The fact is that this film says that people see everything and yes there. Tell me, this film can be shown in all the republics of the former USSR, and it’s very important that Russia shows it wherever possible in the west! The fact is that it was created by the USA, but not by Russia, that is, there is no our propaganda, but the people I’ll once again remember who and what was in life, that Russian Russia was to come. THIS IS PRIDE IS GLORY, in our understanding there is no separation by signs, if you are our patriot, and we are all ready to give our lives for you, but who will save our who is a patriot! !!!!! The request to watch the film then only then put the cons! Ho cheti I myself know from watching the American film in shock. The battle for Russia. I just never thought when the USA could show a Russian person like this, I’m sorry who has the opportunity to influence it in all CIS countries and in the West Apada showed And preferably in the USA too! Turn it of this for our country at the moment is melting! For any Erdagan Poroshenko Obama, and so on and so forth! Sincerely, Evgeni Vashchenko.

[atamankko]

What if it turns out ...

[Dryuya2]

Quote: atamankko

What if it turns out ...

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http://vz.ru/news/2016/2/23/795856.html
The Syrian opposition Higher Negotiating Committee said it would support a ceasefire, but put forward a number of conditions.
Saudi-sponsored opposition “agrees to respond positively to international efforts to achieve a ceasefire” in the SAR, subject to lifting the siege of Syrian cities, releasing prisoners, stopping bombing of civilians and delivering humanitarian aid, TASS reports citing Agence France-Presse.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Dryuya2

subject to the lifting of the siege of Syrian cities, the release of prisoners, the cessation of bombing of civilians and the delivery of humanitarian assistance

Yeah, can anyone else give a candy?

[Nikolay K]

Let them put forward anything, but in Syria we dictate the conditions, and the Americans assent.

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: Nikolai K

Let them put forward anything, but in Syria we dictate the conditions, and the Americans assent.

And not vice versa?

[Egoza]

Quote: atamankko

What if it turns out ...

the main thing is that as with Minsk it doesn’t work out!

[Gorinich]

This is worse than Minsk. There are at least controlled puppets, and Assad and his bearded opponents are not one of them.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Managed by whom? and managed?

[Mountain shooter]

Such a document is needed, fact. So that all help to the "moderate" would be stopped under any pretext. Gong! Boxers in the corners. The seconds are preparing for the next fight. Everyone is trying to deceive the opponent.

[tol100v]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Such a document is needed, fact.

According to the formula: Whoever does not subscribe, I am not to blame!

[Gorinich]

"Such a document is needed, a fact. So that all assistance to the" moderate "is stopped under any pretext." Such a document is needed to be able to withdraw troops from Syria. This is the only reason Russia needs. But, they sign it not because of this, but in order for the black gentleman to pat him on the head and possibly remove some of the sanctions.

[svp67]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Such a document is needed, fact.

"divide et impera" (divide and conquer) ...

Quote: Mountain Shooter

That all help to the "moderate" cease under any pretext

No, it will not stop, but now they will be beaten in turn ...

[vglazunov]

This pause is beneficial for US terrorists, do not forget Minsk 1, 2. It is useless to negotiate with the pendos themselves, the cheater will always cheat, they understand only force.

[midshipman]

This is the beginning of a conflict settlement plan that Gorbachev and the drunk of all Russia have sowed around the world. They would defend Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia in due time, there would be a different way of the world. Happy Holidays to you dear residents of Russia. I have the honor.

[Alexander 3]

I do not believe in all these attempts.

[biron]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

The Igilovites are in shock, they are not on the list, they’ve gone too far))

ancient chickens too, however, overpowered.

[Red_Hamer]

No, I do not believe it! No fig, this good will not work! Where the United States is tied, there can be nothing good at all! There will be betrayal, provocations and a sea of ​​blood, I’m sure of that!

[VeteranVS]

it's better than nothing. moderate seem to be divided. the question is in what proportion.

[Million]

When there is very little left before the Victory, it is strange to declare a truce.

[0255]

Quote: Million

When there is very little left before the Victory, it is strange to declare a truce.

That's it. Let's imagine if, after Stalingrad, the USSR stopped its offensive against Germany and declared a ceasefire. Or even "cooler" - would negotiate with Hitler, for example, on the special status of the occupied parts of the RSFSR, BSSR, and the Ukrainian SSR with Germany, recognizing its "territorial integrity".

[izya top]

there are two forces left in the world? decisions are made either without the participation of the Syrians, then without the participation of the skaklov do not even consider it necessary to invite

[Erg]

It turns out cool - everyone "reconciles", and Turkey somehow slipped off smoothly. Where are the Ottoman terrorist points? It's all nonsense

[0255]

Chechnya and Novorossia do not teach anything about such "agreements"? Will it turn out that only the Syrian army will observe the ceasefire? Why stop a successful Syrian offensive? What nonsense?

[yuriy55]

One circumstance is confusing. This overseas truce game does not yet imply a XNUMX% ceasefire on the part of the terrorists, but it gives them the opportunity to regroup and restore combat effectiveness ...

And what should the Syrian army and VKS do if this agreement is not respected?

[Winnie76]

I think this is just a curtsy in the direction of the United States. With an attempt to save his face and once again look for moderates ...

[Stas157]

Well, the entry of Turkish troops into Syria is canceled! Erdagan needs to prove himself a complete bandit if a military attack in a ceasefire takes place, and even signed by the Americans! All alarmists can exhale the third world war, in the near future will not take place! Putin apparently again outplayed everyone! And here is my comment on this from February 12:

As far as I understand, Putin was not going to save and preserve ALL Syria, it was obvious that Syria would probably not escape the partition. Then I agree with Kedmi, he has long said that from the collapse of Syria, according to the Western version, Russia saved by intervening in the conflict. Now the West will be forced to agree on the future of Syria with Moscow, and the more successful Assad’s military victories will be, the faster negotiations will begin. That is exactly what happened!

[Dryuya2]

Quote: Stas157

As far as I understand, Putin was not going to save and preserve ALL Syria, it was obvious that Syria would probably not escape the partition.

and I think when will it appear - "Putin merged Syria"
congratulations you first

[Stas157]

Quote: Dryuya2

and I think when will it appear - "Putin merged Syria"
congratulations you first tongue

I’m saying just the opposite! Reread my comment carefully. Having achieved a peaceful settlement, Putin makes it almost impossible to send Turkish troops, plus there is the opportunity to finish off ISIS and Al-Nusra, and leave the rest for later.

[Fei_Wong]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Such a document is needed, fact. So that all help to the "moderate" would be stopped under any pretext.

But she will not stop. The Saudis, the Turks, and the USA wanted to spit on all kinds of documents. As sponsored, they will quietly continue to sponsor.

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: Fei_Wong

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Such a document is needed, fact. So that all help to the "moderate" would be stopped under any pretext.

But she will not stop. The Saudis, the Turks, and the USA wanted to spit on all kinds of documents. As sponsored, they will quietly continue to sponsor.

Example: Ukraine. Minsk 1,2.
We will also remain in ... shit.

[onix757]

Another KhPP caused by the threat of a ground operation by coalition countries under the auspices of the United States. So he keeps his face. I’m talking all the way, exaggerated power (especially economic) and opportunities with gulkin hr * n.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Million

When there is very little left before the Victory, it is strange to declare a truce.

Ukrainian script, repetition or continuation. So the plan will be awake, there will be its disruption, there will be accusations against Russia of disrupting these plans.

[VeteranVS]

Quote: Erg

It turns out cool - everyone "reconciles", and Turkey somehow slipped off smoothly. Where are the Ottoman terrorist points? It's all nonsense

nothing like that, the Turks were hit, they were in a very interesting position. you can’t argue against uncle, and the position of uncle and the Russian Federation is already AGREED. and what nonsense?

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: VeteranVS

Quote: Erg

It turns out cool - everyone "reconciles", and Turkey somehow slipped off smoothly. Where are the Ottoman terrorist points? It's all nonsense

nothing like that, the Turks were hit, they were in a very interesting position. you can’t argue against uncle, and the position of uncle and the Russian Federation is already AGREED. and what nonsense?

But the TURKS just slip between the big uncles. At least they will spoil the chance. There are no teams to FU Erdogan.

[Victor1]

some kind of garbage turns out, smacks of "Minsk" in words will freeze like in Donbass, but in reality it will be even worse, tk. You can't tell these Arabs, they stabbed them in the back, shaved off their beards, and catch them there ..
Push, so to the end, and then freeze with an incomprehensible outcome ..

[am808s]

Let's wait when the air defense will be brought to the barmaley and debugged on our blood !!!

[rica1952]

Apparently this is another cunning plan of Putin. It is very reminiscent of the drain of New Russia.

[Sakhalin.]

P.I.d.s. ate now they will shit on a quiet one, and fill in the whole world, I will not believe their henchmen ... only unconditional surrender!

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

East is east - any oaths and promises are made there, but they are far from always fulfilled.

[chunga-changa]

Again twenty-five. 2012, 2013, 2016. I think the last "truce" Assad will not survive.

[Thompson]

Another Utopia. None of the militants will change the machine for a shovel

[afrikanez]

Assad correctly said: who is with weapons in Syria is a terrorist and must be destroyed. So, a ceasefire is just a formality (all the more so, this agreement has nothing to do with IS and An-Nusra).

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: afrikanez

So, a ceasefire is just a formality

of course. But, at least, this demarche was made by the main persons involved - the Russian Federation and the United States, without any useless blah-blah at the UN. Finally, it is clear to everyone that this rickety office has no power at all. Vaughn, with Assange, it is corny nah sent by the Swedes with the Britons. The issues of war and peace have long been out of the competence of the UN. Let him be engaged in humanitarian aid and lick xoxlov and others "who have taken the path of democracy."

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: afrikanez

Assad correctly said: who is with weapons in Syria is a terrorist and must be destroyed. So, a ceasefire is just a formality (all the more so, this agreement has nothing to do with IS and An-Nusra).

You can proclaim anything! But to do ... I doubt that the Yankees (and Russia) will allow the violation of the contract.
And everyone here knows how OUR to be respectful of compliance with such agreements.
It is the Yankees and the "decaying" West that can afford to interpret any treaty as they want and as it suits them.

[serezhasoldatow]

For normal people, this will be a respite, and scumbags will be soaked and soaked. Only the United States and others like them lost this round. Thugs will not stop the fire, the washcloth will continue.

[Goldmitro]

In turn, the Al-Jazeera channel, citing its correspondent at UN headquarters, said that "the warring parties in Syria should sign the document before noon on Friday, February 26."

All this international terrorist scum is able to mimic very well, especially having such curators as pin ... owls, Saudis! Realizing that in Syria, after the strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces, they will face an inevitable military defeat, they will all now be repainted into a "moderate opposition" in order to go underground and continue the irreconcilable struggle with Assad through subversive work, including terrorist acts, and all this will be with the support of the West and Saudi and other slave monarchies! So, true peace on the land of Syria is still sooo far away, and Russia is there seriously and FOR A LONG time!

[starper]

Apparently there are some reasons that forced Putin to soften his position on Syria, after all, GS analysts have more information than can be found in the public domain.

[Cobra77]

"To join the cessation of hostilities regime, armed opposition groups must, no later than 12:00 (Damascus time) on February 26, 2016, confirm to the Russian Federation or the United States of America, which will inform each other about this as co-chairmen of the ICGF, their readiness to accept and observe the following conditions ... "

It’s interesting, someone will turn to the Russian Federation or the States will point a finger at the card and say - you can’t bomb here, we have information, but we won’t show them to you.

[Olegi1]

Quote: cobra77

Apparently there are some reasons that forced Putin to soften his position on Syria, after all, GS analysts have more information than can be found in the public domain.

To begin with - all a happy holiday! I drank the traditional first glass for grandfathers

I would interpret the whole text differently (text: http://lenta.ru/articles/2016/02/22/cessation/)

1. The puppeteer dropped the mask, forced
2. ISIS and others surrendered
3. Turkey was clearly and firmly told not to climb
4. Russia allowed the puppeteer to "save face", which, IMHO, is very correct

Isn't that a victory?

Let's see, of course, what will happen next ...

[tehnokrat]

This "truce" captures and consolidates our success, which consists in the fact that the plans for the invasion of Turkish and Saudi regular troops are frustrated. Without this, albeit not quite workable, but voiced agreement with the SGA, the issue could not be considered resolved.
The ability to continue to fuck ISIS and Al-Nusra seems sufficient for Assad and the Kurds to clear the border with Turkey; but at the current stage this is already enough.
Our MO, S.K.Shoygu, urgently flew to Iran with personal Putin's message to Rowhan: I think the message was not about arms transfers. The fate of Syria without Iran is not serious, unrealistic, and there is no reason to decide.

[gladcu2]

No one counts 350 Saudi army. Who are ready to enter Syria.

GDP apparently put this fact at the head of the contract.

[Olegi1]

Quote: gladcu2

No one counts 350 Saudi army. Who are ready to enter Syria.

GDP apparently put this fact at the head of the contract.

Could you tell me more about the Saudi army? I mean, they rake it well in Yemen, the fighting efficiency of this army looks, IMHO, dubious.

[Cobra77]

Quote: gladcu2

No one counts 350 Saudi army. Who are ready to enter Syria.

GDP apparently put this fact at the head of the contract.

Saudis? Seriously? If it were only them, then we have no problems there. The main problem of the Turks. They really know how to fight and have enough strength. And the Sultan is crazy enough to risk trying his luck on the battlefield. But I think all these games in a truce are not because of them. Unfortunately, this is more like Minsk-2, when the Russian Federation is constantly required to comply and deflection, and the Ukrainians spat on it from a large bell tower. Glad to be mistaken, but all the signs are on the face. The Russian Federation failed to secure EU support in Syria. Just listen to Hollande, Merkel and the pigman from the island. And alone, our Guarantor is afraid to go to the end.

[kig]

Russia and the USA have agreed and a truce MUST COME ... then you might think that it is the United States and Russia that are fighting each other in Syria. In such a case, a ceasefire would make sense. Well, since there, as they explain to us, a real layer cake and everyone shoots at each other, most groups simply shrug their shoulders and continue their work.