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Do not betray Russia!



“The Russian man likes to come to the edge and recoil. He needs it, do not feed bread. The Russian man will not run from the abyss, but he will come and look at it. And then, when the head is spinning and the horror engulfs, rushes back and will understand everything at once, without words. So: not fit to the edge - and live a child all his life. And it will do - and will mature, the lost years in a second will catch up. Only dangerous is it. After all, not everyone recoils. Many are falling. ”
Archpriest Andrei Tkachev


How many times in its long history Russia and the Russian people stood on the edge and looked into the abyss. According to all the laws of the theory of probability, we should have long since fallen and disappeared from the face of the Earth, dissolved in the assembly of the peoples around us, replenishing their wealth with theirs, their lands, their spirit, their future with theirs.

But each time, in some miraculous way, we did not fall, but instantly having absorbed the terabytes of reality, realizing it, having grown up sharply and gray-haired, passed on to a new level of development. Yes, we always paid a very high price for this “growing up”. Too big. So much so that by paying a similar one, any other people would disappear and dissolve.

Only not us. Perhaps in the entire history of Russia there has not been a decade more terrible for us than a decade after the October Revolution. We and our country were simply destroyed, physically and spiritually. Our temples were destroyed, tens of thousands killed priests, scholars, poets, destroyed our families, our mentality, our morality, and morality, replacing the old ideals with chimeras and simulacra. For the words "Russian" and "Orthodox" just shot. The state machine was soaked through with an alien foreign element that performed only one task: to lead a world revolution on the bones of Russia and the Russian people and build the world of international finance capital, the world of Satan.

The apotheosis of Russophobia was the well-known 12 congress of the RCP (B), at which speakers competed, who would more quickly and effectively destroy "Great Russian chauvinism", Russia, Orthodoxy, the Russian people. The state social order for the destruction of everything Russian was instantly taken up by representatives of the new “elite of spirit” - poets, artists, publicists, and writers.

“Writers must throw overboard literature mysticism, obscenity, national point of view ...”
(“True”, January 1 1925)

And it raced ...

Russia! Is it rotten? Died? Came up?
What! Eternal memory to you.
You did not live, but only sighed
In the dim and close hut.
Crutches creaked and shuffled,
Lips smeared with soot icons,
Above the crows croaks,
She took care of the age-old heavy dream.
Ah, the old woman! Blind and stupid!
Your grandson ruined your hut.
.
Evil bastards over the distant swamp
Let hiss to him: “Sgin, you fool”!
Bonded with blood and sweat
Do not flinch the USSR.

(V. Aleksandrovsky, verse “Russia and the USSR”, “Pravda” from 13 Aug. 1925.)

From all corners gawking at you,
Tugging at you
The earliest mother, Rasseya,
Tatar, thug mother.
.
Oh, how soon will the cruel hand
Dispersed from the path pushed?
.
He is still alive, quiet pool ...
Zhivekhonky, anyway.
Yes, straighten this brain
Harder than fixing the way.
.
Yes, to scatter him in the dust
We need a wild life to break
, , , , , , ,
The earliest mother, Rasseya,
Tatar, thug mother.

(A. Bezymensky, “30 Days” journal, M. 1925, 4, p. 34-35.)

I suggest
Minina to melt,
Pozharsky.
Why do they need a pedestal?
Enough for us
Two shopkeepers praise,
They are behind the shelves
October found.
By chance they
We did not turn our necks.
I know it would be a match.
Think about it,
They saved Russ!
Maybe it would be better not to save?

(Jack [Jacob Moiseeevich] Altauzen, “30 Days”, M. 1930, 8, p. 66.)

Madly
Unceasingly furious
With a bell the heart screams:
Old Russia hanged,
And we are her executioners.

(V. Aleksandrovsky.)

According to hieromonk Damascus, by 1939, 1277 churches (out of 54 thousands) remained in Soviet Russia. Only four ruling bishops were free: in pre-revolutionary Russia there were about thirty thousand monastics and more than 110 thousand white clergy, more than a hundred bishops ...

This was the very edge of the bottomless abyss, which Russia once again looked into. But again a miracle happened. After the death of Lenin and Trotsky’s long, long illness, I. Stalin began to strengthen with the help of “appeals” the national composition of the party, get rid of the “internationalists” at all levels of government, and finally, after 1927, he proclaimed building a new empire traditions of Russia and wrapped in a brilliant beautiful piece of paper of Marxism-Leninism. Tough, repressive, unfortunately, too slow and inert, but "the process has begun." The crown of this process was Stalin’s two speeches, July 3 1941, when he addressed the citizens for the first time "Brothers and sisters!", and 24 May 1945, where he said already in the open:

"Comrades, let me raise another, last toast. I would like to raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people, and above all the Russian people. I drink primarily the health of the Russian people because it is the most prominent of the nations that make up the Soviet Union. I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people because he deserved general recognition in this war as the leading force of the Soviet Union among all the peoples of our country. I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people not only because he is the leading people about because he has a clear mind, a staunch character and patience ... "

And as if there were no these hardest decades of persecution and extermination for us. We again became a nation with our faith, soul, and future.

But how difficult was this path of recognition and rebirth. How hard this state ideological machine was spinning, bringing lost values ​​into the consciousness of people.

Before me is the newspaper "Pravda" from January 19 1938. Feuilleton N. Kruzhkova "The crime of the old teacher" to modern man it seems so wild and fantastic that a simple thought doesn’t fit in his head: “And that’s how it was!”

With your permission, I will bring it in full:

“Ivan Aleksandrovich Smorodin, a respected teacher from the village of Bolshaya Sosnova of the Sverdlovsk Region, who worked for 45 for years, made a serious influx: at a pre-election meeting of voters in the Left Bank precinct, he said a hot, excited speech,

- We will vote in the elections to the Supreme Council of OOSR for the eagles and eagles of the Lenin-Stalin party.

And - what is the worst! - Finally, he exclaimed:

- Long live the happy Russian people!

The next day, Ivan Alexandrovich Smorodin was dragged to the answer. Members of the party organization of the Bolshe-Sosnovsky District Executive Committee met as terrible judges.

“That's what, citizen Smorodin,” asked the presiding officer, starting the harsh interrogation, “you seem to be in our organization as a sympathizer?”

- I am.

- Did you speak at the meeting yesterday?

- Performed ...

- And he didn’t just speak, but made a counter-revolutionary raid.

- That was not ...

- That is, how was not ?! About eagles and eagles spread? And finally, he said: “Long live the happy Russian people” ?!

- Right...

“To shout“ Long live the Russian people! ”Is the most naked, unbridled chauvinism. Now it is clear to you, citizen Smorodin, that you have made a class hostile outing ...

With haste, not giving any description, the workers of the district executive committee decided that the old teacher, who had worked 45 for years honestly, should be expelled from the ranks of sympathizers and raise the question of his immediate dismissal from work.

The decision is like a thunder struck Ivan Alexandrovich Smorodin and all those who knew him and respected. A single stroke of the pen put an end to a man who has long and honestly worked in the field of public education. For what?

The torments of Ivan Alexandrovich Smorodin were just beginning. At the general meeting of teachers of the school where our terrible criminal taught, the question of “a counter-revolutionary outing Currant” was urgently discussed.

To the shame, it should be noted that the Bolshe Sosnovsk teachers did not find the courage to dismiss foolish, ridiculous accusations at the address of their comrade, a respected teacher. On the contrary, among those who gathered, there were brisk deceivers, who hastened to join their voice with the voice of fools and slanderers. Sneaks loud bass and baritones began to shout at Currant, accusing him of all mortal sins. Of course, various tricky questions rained down. Echidnye languages ​​asked whether the teacher Smorodin kissed the icons before the revolution, who planted a garden for him, why his wife went to the kolkhoz, why he quarreled with his sister.

The assembly of teachers decided:

1. To ask the region to exclude Currants from the regional book of honor.

2. Ask the area to exclude Currants from the ranks of the teacher.

Dirty lump of ridiculous and vile accusations against a man who is guilty only of the patriot's hot heart beating in his chest, was growing every day. The presidium of B.-Sosnovsky district executive committee decided that it was impossible for him to remain indifferent and, in turn, promptly made a decision: because the teacher Smorodin spoke at an election meeting "with enemy agitation aimed at disrupting the election campaign" (what a twist!) “Exclude Smorodin from the district teachers’ book of honor and ask the presidium of the Sverdlovsk Regional Executive Committee to exclude from the regional teachers ’book of honor, and also ask Oblon to remove Currant from the teacher’s work, and also take Smorodina from the members of the plenum of the district executive committee ".

The shameful decision was signed by Chairman Danilov and Acting Secretary Korlyakov.

Of course, the chairman of the district committee of the union of primary school workers in Proskuryakov also did not want to be in the wake of events, sending a poisonous piece of paper to Sverdlovsk, describing how Smorodin allowed an anti-Soviet prank, as he said about eagles and how chauvinistically exclaimed: “Long live happy Russian people! ”

From the village of Bolshaya Sosnova, utter nonsense, richly flavored with slander, crawled to Sverdlovsk, to the regional committee of the union of workers in primary schools.

It would seem that here is the end of this whole story. One would assume that there are intelligent, politically literate people in the regional committee who are able to put an end to the unscrupulous persecution of the old teacher. But it was not there! From Sverdlovsk the instructor of the Zolotavina union went to Bolshaya Pine. She examined the question, interviewed the accused and the prosecutors, and came to the conclusion that there was nothing reprehensible in the actions of malicious slanderers from Big Pine. So it is necessary to do. Once a person exclaimed: “Long live the Russian people!”, It means that he is a chauvinist.

The Presidium of the Regional Committee of the Union 7 on January 1938 of the year decided: “In view of the ambiguities, postpone the question to an additional investigation.” This can be understood only in such a way that the regional committee of the union did not want to take responsibility in this, in his opinion, delicate matter. Let's see, wait for the others to decide ...

Ivan Aleksandrovich Smorodin, tortured by a persecution, began to doubt himself in the simplicity of his soul. He began to think that it would be better for him not to mention the Russian people.

Dear Ivan Alexandrovich! You said it very well, very warmly - they said it beautifully! Do not be ashamed of your words, do not be ashamed of your feelings of love for the great and heroic Russian people. They are completely natural and legitimate. You have to be a geek or a cretin, or an enemy of a people, in order not to love your people.

It's all clear. Only one question is unclear: who organized the persecution of an honest teacher Ivan Alexandrovich Smorodin? It is difficult to assume that only fools acted here, although it was not without fools. Undoubtedly, Ivan Aleksandrovich Smorodin fell victim to the insolent actions of the enemies of the people, who tried to hide their true identity under the guise of ostentatious vigilance.

There is no doubt that the prosecutor’s office will bring to justice the perpetrators of the harassment of the old teacher. ”








Then we still had large and small abysses, the crucible of the most terrible war in which we won, post-war famine and devastation that did not prevent us from being the first in space to create a unique science, build BAM and industry giants, create a greenhouse incubator for society .

And here came the 90 with another attempt to physically destroy our people and the state, this time through economic means. Emergency Committee, the assault of the White House, Ostankin, mining helmets, famine, the destruction of all industry, scientific base, social structure, rampant crime, lawlessness in power, local civil wars, a parade of sovereignties, mass emigration to the "well-fed West", a catastrophic birth rate , falling levels of health and total hopelessness for ordinary people.

All this in a complex should once again enslave and destroy the people, destroy the state, throw us into the abyss. But, as it always was in our history, at the most critical moment a new leader emerged, who again was able to stop the inevitable, move this huge colossus, Russia, in the right direction, and, like 70 more than years ago, slowly and painfully revive Russia, our people It was Vladimir Putin. It did not take several decades to, as in the case of Stalin, the entire ideological machine of the West fell upon him. Putin "gets his" almost online, without delay. But no less vicious and big. Still, he broke the next plans for the destruction of Russia and the Russian people. This is not forgiven to anyone.

But one thing remains in the arsenal of the West weapon - test prosperity. Replacing spiritual values ​​in people with material ones. The temptation of the stomach and pleasures.

If I'm not mistaken, the American science fiction writer Isaac Asimov had a story in which he described the future of Western consumer society. All people spent their time in pleasure, riding on the carousel. They were so busy getting entertainment that they did not notice how from time to time one of the neighboring booths turned over, and people flew down from it to recycle them as resources for the carefree living of the rest. There is nothing free, you have to pay for everything. To pay with your life, soul, morality, value system, future generations, the ancestors' covenants, the country ... Pay with your own self. Nobody announces this price to you, but in the end you yourself realize it. But sometimes it is already too late, and you fly into the next abyss. Now Russia is passing this test, and with it every one of us. And from the fact that in the end we choose, depends not only our future personally, but also the future of our children and grandchildren, the future of Russia.

An epigraph to this article was an excerpt from Archpriest Andrei Tkachev’s story On the Edge. I want to bring it in full.

Believe me, it is worth it to read it and think.

On the edge




The girl was crying in the check-in hall of the international airport. The luggage had already been handed over, the boarding pass was already on hand, and she was crying. No wonder. Girls often cry because life is incomprehensible, confused and unfair. Because the sea does not argue. How many do not shout at him, like Demosthenes, it will throw its indifferent salty waves onto the shore and hoot over and over again on the concrete embankment of the seaside town. And often, when a small person is standing one on one before the disobedient vital element, tears, as salty as sea water, flow from his eyes without asking for permission.

Her name was Olya, and his Ozan. Ozan in Turkish - "singer". Where did they meet? Where and how did he turn her head to his songs? In social networks, and then on Skype. Where else? Life in the native seaside town is so boring and monotonous, and the Turkish nightingale sang such tender words that even Google translator could not spoil their meaning. How the heart does not beat faster! And the TV, unfortunately, fed the country for several months with Turkish serials. There women are noble, and men are strong and sober. They respect the mother's word and more death fear shame. There, nature mixed together seagulls, the sea, and cypresses, and the high blue sky, and history has spiced up all this luxury with temples, mosques and fortresses. It's all close - just on the side of the sea, which can be crossed, and fly, if only there was a hunt. And when he “sang”: “Come,” was it possible to refuse?

Mother let go. Why not? The girl needs to arrange a life. Who are you going to arrange it here? Abroad, people are cultured, sober, hardworking. A thought flashed through her that in her old age she herself would become a “khanum” and would drink coffee on a white marble terrace. “Go, daughter. Everywhere people live. ”
Ozan ordered tickets, and Olya went.

When she returned home, there was no doubt: you need to get married. The rich family, all beautiful, as in the series, took her as if she was already the daughter-in-law. And the house is big, and the seagulls scream, and the air smells like lemon. Ozan speaks Russian a little bit, and for a couple of days Olya began to explain a little bit in Turkish, like on an exam, peeping at a tourist phrasebook. Only Ozana’s mother said on the day of departure, and Ozan translated, with her eyes lowered: “It will be necessary to accept Islam.” After a short pause, the mother added: "Accept Islam, and you will be like a daughter to me."

What is "accept Islam"? It is very simple. Say with the witnesses of the shahad, that's all. Roksolana, she was the daughter of a priest, and Islam accepted, and Olya is only the daughter of a fisherman and a barmaid who never went to church except she was baptized as a child. Mother thought Olina confirmed. “What's wrong with Islam? People are good, they pray to God. And you don't do anything bad to Christ. What kind of sin is there? ”After talking with her mother, the last doubts disappeared. Every day Olya and Ozan would sit on Skype, discussing their future happy life. And she had already learned the language, and he, impatient for the East, demanded that she come soon. The whole family is waiting, the wedding is already being prepared. Finally, a one-way ticket was purchased.

A one-way ticket. "One way ticket". There was such a disco-style song in 1970's, the text of which was rewritten in the Soviet Union. “I have a Blue Bird. I'm coming for you, "- sang some VIA. But Olya was born later, and if she danced, then to other rhythms.

“One-way ticket ...” “I am behind the Blue Bird ...”

There were no tears at parting. Mother was happy for her daughter, her daughter was trembling from the presentiment of unprecedented change, from the expectation of happiness, from female fear, from something else, but both eyes were dry. Tears appeared later at the airport. They came suddenly, for no reason at all. Suddenly boiling in the chest, a hot wave rose to the throat and splashed out of her eyes in an unstoppable stream. Were these tears that the girls poured for centuries before the first night with her husband, when the spit was tied up with a greasy candle? Were these tears of parting with their native land? But who knows? In the women's eyes a lot of water. Women's eyes are often in a wet place, and to explain that yes how, words are not enough. The metal voice is completely slurred, in Russian and in English, but it is equally incomprehensible, imitated the announcements of boarding and the end of registration. And the girl who was waiting for the black-eyed groom on the other side of the sea sat on a hard chair and howled like a fool, not understanding the reason for the tears.

- Why are you crying so bitterly?

Next to Olya sat a man of about fifty, all gray and handsome, like a Hollywood drama actor.

“I'm getting married,” she blurted out with surprise for herself through her tears.

- So what are you crying? Need to rejoice.

“I will accept Islam,” the girl said again, marveling at the sound of her voice and, even more, at the content of the words. It can be said that her heart has not yet suffered a single second from a future change of faith. So only - doubted a little bit. And there was no change, because no one would have called her a believer. For the first time she accepted the faith of others, rather than changing hers to another. But here the language spoke unexpected words, and these words turned out to be the right answer - they testified to the sudden tears that had stopped. As if from herself, having unexpectedly heard the answer about the reason for the bitter crying, she suddenly realized what had happened, and for the last time suddenly wiped off her dried eyes.

- Islam to accept? - the man looked at her carefully. - This is not good.

“I know it myself,” the girl, swollen with tears, answered and again was surprised at what was said. Because she didn't know anything like that a minute ago.

- I will give you an icon here.

The man reached into the inside pocket of his jacket.

- Mother of God. You pray to her. She will govern everything.

The icon was small, laminated and was called "The recovery of the dead." How to pray, Olga did not really know. She just began to look at the scapular, and again the tears, just not in streams, but in two mean drops, flowed out of her eyes.

The man left for landing. He left suddenly and without giving his name, as he came. And Olya also got up from a hard chair a minute later. But not on the landing, but to the exit led her legs. As her tongue had just spoken the truth several times in a row, without checking with her head, so her legs did not carry her towards the doors behind which the runway began, but towards the doors with the words “To the city” and arrows pointing to the stop buses.

“The Russian man likes to come to the edge and recoil. He needs it - do not feed bread. The Russian man will not run from the abyss, but he will come and look at it. And then, when the head is spinning and the horror engulfs, rushes back and will understand everything at once, without words. So: not fit to the edge - and live a child all his life. And it will do - and will mature, the lost years in a second will catch up. Only dangerous is it. After all, not everyone recoils. Many are falling. ”

A stewardess, plump and pink-cheeked, fresh and sweet, like spring itself, waved her arms in the aisle and showed where to run in case of an accident. Looking at her, it seemed that in the event of an accident, everyone would be just as fun and easy to run along the aisles, as she is now waving her hands. The man buckled up his seat belt and smiled, looking at the flight attendant.

“Comes to the edge and recoil. And yet dangerous. Many are falling. ”

"Boeing" began to taxi to take off. On the other side of the terminal, another bus departed from the bus stop. The white, as snow, head of the passenger leaned against the glass window.


Archpriest Andrei Tkachev.
November 18 2013 city
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/65782.html.

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  1. kostik1301
    kostik1301 25 February 2016 10: 56
    -29 qualifying.
    the author of this article fulfills the loot of the US State Department ..........
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 February 2016 11: 06
      +8
      Perhaps, in the entire history of Russia there has not been a decade more terrible for us than a decade after the October Revolution. We and our country were simply destroyed, physically and spiritually.
      - from article

      What another liberal stupidity!
      The Bolsheviks, destroyed by the mediocre tsarist and liberal policy of the temporary capitalists, collected crumbs, fought against the remnants of the White Guard corrupt military, the remnants of foreign intervention, massive banditry, restored industry as best they could, solved the problem of hunger, social justice for the whole people, and not a handful. " chosen ones. "
      And then some Nikishin, trying to spoil, discredit the difficult time of restoring the country, the search for a new socialist spirituality.
      Not tired of shitting, Nikishin?
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 February 2016 11: 09
        39
        Do not betray Russia!
        And how many traitors crap, "sitting in the chairs at the helm"! The Dvorkovichs, the Siluluanovs, the Ulyulyukaevs ... Just an article about the sale of gas oil ... Controlling stakes in large Russian companies! Sell-betray Russia ! And the people can not do anything about it! How to dump these HSE with Western poison from the long-suffering body of Russia !?
        Scoundrel! am
        1. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 11: 21
          +4
          The state machine was thoroughly saturated with an alien foreign visitor who performed only one task - to conduct a world revolution on the bones of Russia and the Russian people and build a world of international financial capital, the world of Satan.

          And what, in the author's opinion, do the occupation troops, cooperating with the white movement, or football again with one goal, refer to "alien elements"? Did the Bolsheviks also bring the "international financial capital", over which the author is so indignant, to Russia? This is from the same opera as about the assistant professor, who claims that NATO was created in response to the VD bloc.
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 25 February 2016 11: 25
            26
            Quote: vladimirZ
            What another liberal stupidity!
            The Bolsheviks’s country, destroyed by the incompetent tsarist and liberal policies of the temporary capitalists, gathered together in crumbs, fought with the remnants of the White Guard venal military, the remnants of foreign intervention, mass banditry, restored industry as they could, solved the problem of hunger, and then some Nikishin was trying to spoil, blame the difficult time of the country's recovery.

            Any Revolution, whatever it is (red, green, blue, violet) is a tragedy for the people who have such events. Any revolution is not viable without money injections (money is the circulatory system of any revolution, any revolution). Not a single revolution in history has occurred at the behest of the poor and oppressed - it is always a well-designed, well-designed project.
            This is the FIRST ...

            Second.
            To say that all the whites were corrupt creatures unable to defend their homeland is a fallacy. The same whites, for centuries before the October Revolution, successfully defended Russia against the enemy - these are tsars, commanders, admirals of which we are often proud of the exploits.

            The third.
            I am also against the demonization of the USSR of its heritage. By the way, no matter what. After the Revolution, the people are already Soviet, did a great job. He was essentially after a civilian one, got into the hands of an agrarian country, carried out industrialization, and then he was attacked by the most powerful army in the world. And this people (Soviet) survived.

            And in conclusion:
            The article is somewhat controversial. It seems that the message is clear, patriotism, do not betray the fatherland. But do not betray how? Through denigrating a separate part of our history? It is not right. Whatever it is, this is our story, and we have the right to be proud of it. And taking into account past mistakes should go to the future. In the article, there are places where it is said that these were good, and those were frank degenerates. However, the author does not take into account that TE and THESE are all our people. And this leads to a split, and the people begin to think again with the criteria We are WHITE and they are RED - tobish villains.

            This is not right, it is provocative. In the general context of the consideration of the historical punctures of our history, I think it would be more correct - if both RED supporters and WHITE supporters try to see something good in each other, in the end both of these saved the country more than once or twice. And do not look from a position: We have done more than you.
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 11: 28
              0
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              To say that all the whites were corrupt creatures unable to defend their homeland is a fallacy.

              But to say that all the red ones were corrupt creatures - this, apparently, is the height of patriotism
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 25 February 2016 11: 42
                +2
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                But to say that all the red ones were corrupt creatures - this, apparently, is the height of patriotism

                I did not focus on this. You apparently took it out of context without reading my post to the end.
                1. Corporal Valera
                  Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 12: 22
                  +5
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  I did not focus on this. You apparently took it out of context without reading my post to the end.

                  This does not apply to your post, but to the article more. It turned out that the red "alien elements" came and they had one goal: to destroy everyone, but then the terry anti-Soviet Stalin appeared and saved everyone. Nonsense. Reds, like whites, were different. A revolution is always a tragedy, but sometimes it is the only way to continue the development of society. Women also give birth in agony, and we have many lovers with water and a baby to throw out.
                  1. Who is
                    25 February 2016 17: 44
                    0
                    That is, the period from 1927 to the death of Stalin, do not you think? Carefully read the article without your own speculation
              2. amber-50
                amber-50 25 February 2016 12: 19
                0
                You do nothing to distort. No one says that. But I think you will not dispute that the excesses were just wild.
                1. Corporal Valera
                  Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 12: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: amber-50
                  you will not dispute that the excesses were

                  I won’t. As an everywhere
              3. Hort
                Hort 25 February 2016 12: 39
                -2
                dividing the sides of the civil war into good and bad is stupid. All are bad, because set up a massacre between yourself
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 12: 11
              +6
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              The same whites, for centuries before the October Revolution, successfully defended Russia against the enemy - these are tsars, commanders, admirals of which we are often proud of the exploits.

              well, firstly, these are not "those whites" and secondly, the ruling class did everything to make a revolution

              in one book I read a very interesting description of Russia at the beginning of the 20th century
              "Russia is like a house in the basement of which some carry barrels of gunpowder, while others periodically go down to this basement to smoke"
              so it was and in that situation the Russian nobility was primarily to blame
              1. tacet
                tacet 25 February 2016 14: 30
                +1
                Rather, one is someone Kolya Romanov. Additional confirmation that the slug cannot rule the state.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: tacet
                  Rather one

                  no, everybody tried
                  and uncle Evoyny who is an admiral general, and a brother who did not fulfill his duty, and many, many noblemen who have forgotten who they are and for which they were given privileges and "guilty nation" and Cossacks - the support to the throne changed the oath
                  1. tacet
                    tacet 25 February 2016 15: 48
                    +1
                    Under the condition that the Empire would be headed by a strong-willed, purposeful person, there would be neither uncles, nor brothers (at best a pension or a monastery), nor Cossack traitors (you don’t get used to chopping archers' heads), etc.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 15: 50
                      -1
                      Alexander 3 strong-willed?
                      1. tacet
                        tacet 25 February 2016 16: 40
                        +2
                        Undoubtedly, although he did not have outstanding mental abilities, he managed to put together a very effective team to realize his goals (you can not separate them, but you can’t refuse to be successful enough).
                        Under Alexander III, cities, factories and factories grew, domestic and foreign trade grew, the length of railways increased, and the construction of the great Siberian Railway began. In order to develop new lands there was a resettlement of peasant families in Siberia and Central Asia.
                        In the late 80s, it was possible to overcome the state budget deficit, revenues exceeded expenditures.
                        The reign of Emperor Alexander III was the most peaceful. Only once did Russian troops encounter Afghan troops on the Kushka River. Alexander III protected his country from wars, and also helped to extinguish hostility between other countries, for which he received the nickname "Peacemaker".
                        The authority and significance of the Russian Orthodox Church has been restored.
                        As a result of the measures taken in Russia, there was a rapid industrial upsurge, the ruble exchange rate grew and strengthened, and the welfare of the population improved.
                        Alexander III and his counter-reforms provided Russia with a peaceful and calm era without wars and internal unrest.
                        There was a negative point (as without it) - in response to the oppression of the peasantry and national minorities in Russia, various kinds of revolutionary organizations (rather circles) arose in significant numbers, but they got stronger and developed and bloomed violently during the reign of his son Nikolai 2.
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 16: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: tacet
                        Undoubtedly, although he did not have outstanding mental abilities, he managed to put together a very effective team to realize his goals (you can not separate them, but you can’t refuse to be successful enough).

                        even as I can
                        Alexey Alexandrovich, the same Admiral General, the chief chief of the fleet and the naval department who paid more attention to the ballerinas than the Russian fleet

                        that's what a contemporary writes about him
                        "It was hard to imagine a more modest knowledge of maritime affairs than that of this admiral of a mighty power. The mere mention of modern transformations in the navy caused a painful grimace on his handsome face. Not decisively interested in anything that did not apply to women, food or drinks, he invented an extremely convenient way to arrange meetings of the Admiralty Council. He invited his members to his palace for dinner, and after the cognac got into the stomach of his guests, the friendly owner opened the meeting of the council with a traditional story about one case from the history of the Russian sailing navy ..."

                        Witte entangled the country in debt

                        there are a lot of "fatal" surnames for Russia who shit under the "strong-willed" emperor

                        the entire "foundation" rotted away and not without the help of "house managers"
          2. derik1970
            derik1970 25 February 2016 14: 25
            -1
            Red is red and white is white! White will come - rob, red will come the same. And they are all those and other RAINS, murderers and so on. Everything should be separate, here you can’t mix people of different ideologies since there were spilled rivers of blood, each had his own goal, but the ways to achieve that the first and the second chose the same. The Reds, together with the Whites, plunged the country into chaos, but then the Reds tried to restore it. The whites, however, betrayed their king, their oath of allegiance to the king and the state. They wanted some kind of freedom, went on about the masses, and many of the generals and officials themselves were Masons. They are the “white movement" - stupid traitors to their country. Without their help, it is possible, not a fact, of course, but it is possible there would be no revolution in the country. Why not a fact, because huge money poured into the cause of the revolution, and money is her blood. The events of the revolution of 1917, helped from abroad - the United States, England, France and others, a strong Russia was not needed by anyone. At that time, Russia had a chance to win the First World War, and having won our country could control the Dardanelles and much more and so on. But the explosion from within the country, it was the supporters of the white movement who arranged it, it was not only the military but also ordinary citizens, the bourgeoisie, the intelligentsia, the whole society was corrupted by the ideas of the revolution and contributed to it. Supporters of the white movement, later they just wanted to stupidly squander the country, get privileges and hearty to live. Neither Kolchak nor Denikin nor the others wanted a revival of Russia in its former capacity. Therefore, excuse me, I don’t see anything good in whites, it can be taken separately, but in the aggregate they were not at all kind and there was nothing to praise them, however, like the reds with their terror. The Decembrists at one time also tried to arrange a coup and a bloody showdown. Thank God, they did not succeed. By the way, Freemasonry already penetrated our state. Not yesterday, everything began to be. So I think each his own. You write, and not only you, that the Soviet people have done a great job and led the country into leaders and the like. The people worked, this is a real fact he worked, his work was and is undeniably great, we are still eating the remains of the USSR. But if it was not Stalin who was in power and the like, then perhaps our country would break up in the province or something like that, by the way, the same Masons would dream of, and not only what Trotsky’s ideas stand for, but to transfer the whole country to barracks position, and no freedom for you citizens. The country could also fall apart even in the 90s., And even now the prospect is still the same. Why am I writing all this, I think that everything depends on the leadership of the country of its elite. How they behave then and will be in the country, that will be our people. For they will tell us tomorrow that everyone will dress up and go to the geyparad, believe me, among the officials and the clergy there are few who will resist, let's go as cute. They will immediately come up with a measure of coercion that is also very convincing, none of us wants to lose, for example, the same work, become an outcast of society, because the same clothes are all for us, and there are no patriots. I am sure that none of us will join the partisans, everyone in the kitchen will stupidly suck events and persuade themselves that nothing special has happened, because the citizens are infantile in their mass. So all these slogans are Russian people, we are cool, we won the war, and so on. All these slogans of irresponsible people are just slogans without any moral foundation. And the moral is not the same, girls dream of becoming dependent models, and boys become gangsters. Often, such slogans are thrown in only so that we would vainly praise ourselves, sit and do nothing, live old victories. I know that our people can purposefully work and win when there is a goal in front of them, there is responsible leadership, a true leader. Now, alas, the state has no ideology for the people, except eat, steal, take everything from life!
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 28
              0
              difficult not to agree ?!
              there is only one eternal question - "WHAT TO DO" ​​?!
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            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 29
              0
              Quote: derik1970
              For example, I hate to hear this word from fellow citizens.

              for a normal person, the reaction to this word should be one - give in the face
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 16: 59
                0
                there is some kind on the site ... which considers insulting Russia the norm? !!!!
                so take courage, open your face
          4. derik1970
            derik1970 25 February 2016 14: 30
            -2
            Red is red and white is white! White will come - rob, red will come the same. And they are all those and other RAINS, murderers and so on. Everything should be separate, here you can’t mix people of different ideologies since there were spilled rivers of blood, each had his own goal, but the ways to achieve that the first and the second chose the same. The Reds, together with the Whites, plunged the country into chaos, but then the Reds tried to restore it. The whites, however, betrayed their king, their oath of allegiance to the king and the state. They wanted some kind of freedom, went on about the masses, and many of the generals and officials themselves were Masons. They are the “white movement" - stupid traitors to their country. Without their help, it is possible, not a fact, of course, but it is possible there would be no revolution in the country. Why not a fact, because huge money poured into the cause of the revolution, and money is her blood. The events of the revolution of 1917, helped from abroad - the United States, England, France and others, a strong Russia was not needed by anyone. At that time, Russia had a chance to win the First World War, and having won our country could control the Dardanelles and much more and so on. But the explosion from within the country, it was the supporters of the white movement who arranged it, it was not only the military but also ordinary citizens, the bourgeoisie, the intelligentsia, the whole society was corrupted by the ideas of the revolution and contributed to it. Supporters of the white movement, later they just wanted to stupidly squander the country, get privileges and hearty to live. Neither Kolchak nor Denikin nor the others wanted a revival of Russia in its former capacity. Therefore, excuse me, I don’t see anything good in whites, it can be taken separately, but in the aggregate they were not at all kind and there was nothing to praise them, however, like the reds with their terror. The Decembrists at one time also tried to arrange a coup and a bloody showdown. Thank God, they did not succeed. By the way, Freemasonry already penetrated our state. Not yesterday, everything began to be. So I think each his own. You write, and not only you, that the Soviet people have done a great job and led the country into leaders and the like. The people worked, this is a real fact he worked, his work was and is undeniably great, we are still eating the remains of the USSR. But if it was not Stalin who was in power and the like, then perhaps our country would break up in the province or something like that, by the way, the same Masons would dream of, and not only what Trotsky’s ideas stand for, but to transfer the whole country to barracks position, and no freedom for you citizens. The country could also fall apart even in the 90s., And even now the prospect is still the same. Why am I writing all this, I think that everything depends on the leadership of the country of its elite. How they behave then and will be in the country, that will be our people. For they will tell us tomorrow that everyone will dress up and go to the geyparad, believe me, among the officials and the clergy there are few who will resist, let's go as cute. They will immediately come up with a measure of coercion that is also very convincing, none of us wants to lose, for example, the same work, become an outcast of society, because the same clothes are all for us, and there are no patriots. I am sure that none of us will join the partisans, everyone in the kitchen will stupidly suck events and persuade themselves that nothing special has happened, because the citizens are infantile in their mass. So all these slogans are Russian people, we are cool, we won the war, and so on. All these slogans of irresponsible people are just slogans without any moral foundation. And the moral is not the same, girls dream of becoming dependent models, and boys become gangsters. Often, such slogans are thrown in only so that we would vainly praise ourselves, sit and do nothing, live old victories. I know that our people can purposefully work and win when there is a goal in front of them, there is responsible leadership, a true leader. Now, alas, the state has no ideology for the people, except eat, steal, take everything from life!
          5. Who is
            25 February 2016 17: 42
            +1
            If you do not understand. the article deals only with the period 1917 - 1927
          6. Kite
            Kite 25 February 2016 19: 03
            +1
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            This is not right, it is provocative. ........

            - if you don’t grab the phrases, but perceive the author’s thought repeated in various examples, you won’t argue, because you stood at the edge of the abyss and walked away and started to rebuild your country more smartly.
        2. amber-50
          amber-50 25 February 2016 12: 13
          +2
          And by any chance you have not forgotten whose money the revolution was carried out? Was it not with the money of "international capital". Or are you so naive that you believe that the Bolsheviks had enough capital for this? And were there many Russians in the ruling elite?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 12: 21
            0
            Do you think there is enough money for revolutions? !!!
            1. amber-50
              amber-50 25 February 2016 12: 35
              +2
              Do you think that it is possible to make a revolution only on the idea? At that time there was no radio and television, accordingly it was necessary to print leaflets. To buy weapons, to pay to agitators and provocateurs. All this requires very little money. And on a bare idea to make a coup, sorry possibly.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 12: 41
                +2
                Quote: amber-50
                Do you think that you can make a revolution only on the idea?

                I believe that a revolution without preconditions cannot be made for any money, you can make a military coup, by the military itself, but not a revolution
                Quote: amber-50
                To buy weapons, pay agitators and provocateurs.

                Excuse me, did the "Russian" Intellect send congratulatory telegrams to Mikado for the grandmother ?!
                a person with HIV does not die from this virus, but HIV does not fight the infection.
                and the Russian nobility and God forgive the intelligentsia did everything so that Russia would not have immunity.
                1. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 25 February 2016 14: 21
                  -2
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  I believe that a revolution cannot be made without preconditions

                  If you rephrase - help with money and play on ambition.
                2. Kite
                  Kite 25 February 2016 19: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  intEliHEntsia for grandmother sent congratulatory telegrams to Mikado ?!

                  - and apart from Kasyanov's "mind", what other reasons could there be for promising to return Crimea? It is difficult to identify the personalities of the past. But there are the same in our time.
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  .... revolution cannot be made without prerequisites ...

                  - right. They must be created and seized the moment. A little later, a little earlier, and the result would be different. The interim government would not have broken up, or a constituent assembly would have taken place and would have had to live a century in a foreign land if not in hard labor.
              2. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 12: 44
                -1
                Quote: amber-50
                .And on the bare idea to make a coup, sorry is not possible.

                Is it possible to work on Stakhanovsky on a bare idea? Or was he also paid millions?
            2. antifa
              antifa 25 February 2016 16: 33
              +1
              Enough, we went to the Maidan as if to work - sponsors came and brought food, firewood, tires, they paid the cooks.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 16: 42
                0
                besides money, were there preconditions for discontent in the country?
            3. tolian
              tolian 25 February 2016 18: 48
              +1
              This is a necessary but insufficient element. Right now in Russia money has piled on the revolution. But something is missing. The elite is still constrained, for now. He steals, enough, but somehow he is trying legally, or what? Yes, and some, going off scale, fall on the bunks. True from the lower layers. The top bolts are clogged. Look at Serdyukov. Or Tolik Red. Already and ONF created. But he fumbles on figures of the same head of the UFSIN. Higher - it is impossible. But this upper layer is, as it were, a reserve for a sharp aggravation of the situation in Russia. Then it will be possible to switch to it. And if with confiscation, then a sharp relief in the financial situation, except for the political one.
              1. Who is
                25 February 2016 19: 24
                -1
                Do you have enough revolutions?
          2. Corporal Valera
            Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 12: 39
            +1
            Quote: amber-50
            And you did not forget by chance whose money the revolution was carried out?

            What is "foreign investment" now? What's the difference whose money? The main thing is how to use it. You can build Olympic facilities, or you can cut among themselves. And I have not seen German payments either. And you? What are your accusations based on?
            1. amber-50
              amber-50 25 February 2016 13: 52
              -1
              The State Archive is there to help you. At the moment, you have splashed out the child with the water. Investing in the stadium (and who does it now belong to?) And investing in the coup d'etat are somewhat different things, don’t find it.
              1. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 15: 07
                0
                Quote: amber-50
                The state archive to help you.

                Details of the archival document, please.
                Quote: amber-50
                and to whom does he now belong?

                Who?
                Quote: amber-50
                and investing in a coup d'etat is a few different things, don’t find it.

                Investments - investing for profit (s) Wikipedia
                Did the "world behind the scenes" gain a lot after Lenin nationalized industry? Or after the invaders were kicked in the ass? Or after industrialization? Marshal's plan? Baruch?
                It’s as if you were giving money to demolish a house for parking, and you got a high-rise on this place, and you forgot to give the keys.
        3. Who is
          25 February 2016 17: 41
          +1
          According to the author, this is all a guide from the Sverdlovsk, Trotsky, Rakovsky and other Zemlyachek
          1. tolian
            tolian 25 February 2016 19: 00
            +1
            Who is, isn't it? Are you from the moon? Indeed, it consisted of them. Have you seen how they explain it now? Say, but there were few literate Russians. So the mestizos ruled. Look who is driving on the outskirts now. Look what is happening to the culture there now. Who climbs among the maggots from the culture to the surface. Can't you figure it out? After all, such is the time to understand these mechanisms of "reorganization" of Russia. Using the example of the same Dill. I personally believe that now the attacks on Orthodoxy are a disguised invasion of mestizos into power in Russia. And therefore the attacked are our companions. Although I am sure that we will come to atheism someday. But ...... through religion to atheism! Religion dies by itself. It is impossible to kill her. A slain religion is a terrible avenger. Will definitely come back and take revenge.
            1. Who is
              25 February 2016 19: 31
              0
              Just look who was in power. It is they.
              Do you really think that a fairly small party, which at all levels gained a maximum of 25% of the vote, suddenly suddenly became a mass party and was able to make a "revolution"? By the way, before 1927, the "October Revolution" was OFFICIALLY called a REVOLUTION. It was revolutionized by Stalin in 1927 within the framework of the new ideology.
              Look at the materials of the 6th Congress of the RSDLPb. It was on it that 6 "Mezhraiontsy" headed by Trotsky (passengers of sealed trains and steamers) with colossal American finances were admitted to the small party, who occupied all leading posts in the future in the party and government and whom Stalin destroyed in 000.
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      3. Boos
        Boos 25 February 2016 12: 30
        +2
        The priests have one song, "God endured and ordered us ..." Sit down, endure and do not rock the boat against the power "given by God"!
        1. Who is
          25 February 2016 17: 52
          -1
          You answer for your "priests". Don't go to ours
          1. tolian
            tolian 25 February 2016 19: 09
            +2
            And their priests "love" children, in the evenings they rent churches for opium incense houses. They have free priests. Like the rest of the people is free, by a special American "freedom". Which makes a normal person sick when reminded.
            1. Who is
              25 February 2016 19: 35
              -2
              They have "priests" in the FRS sitting and such trolls are paid a penny)))
      4. Svetlana
        Svetlana 25 February 2016 15: 53
        +4
        Quote: Baikonur
        And how many traitors crap, "sitting in the chairs at the helm"!

        This is what the message should be in this article! But the author for some reason, with transparent hints, pushes the readers' subconsciousness towards that liberal crowd in which Baba Lera yells about "hated commies" who staged the Red Terror and ruled the country for 70 years, torturing their people.
        If we talk about the 1917 revolution of the year, then the revolutionary situation matured long before these revolutionary events, the need to change the political and social system was clear to any sane person in Russia. As, however, and now. The main question is always who will break the obsolete system, what methods and for what purpose will the country lead. There have been many examples in history when people who seized forces in one way or another, pushed their way to power with their own hands, took the place of their predecessors, and then adjusted the state system to their interests, forgetting about the interests of those who brought them to power. The only exception to the general rules of the general course of history was the experience of the USSR. People devoted to the end of the idea of ​​liberating the people were able to build a society that was cleansed of worship of material values ​​and thirst for profit, based on the equality of all before the law. At what cost was such a society given - everyone knows. But not everyone understands to the end that it was born in a terrible struggle between good and evil, and who exactly personified the forces of evil, and who - the forces of good. And that this society perished only because the people did not fully realize who is who, let themselves be deceived again, allowed to wear masks to deceivers, and not to rip them off at the time of deception. And the deceivers, sowing the seeds of evil, calmly grew this evil and waited for it to be able to harvest. And the people lived quietly, not realizing it.
        So here. An article at first glance with the right appeals, but to whom are they addressed? Did the people betray their country? Or those who harvested in 90's sown 40 years ago? Should we be ashamed of betrayal or those who secretly sell their homeland in pieces?
        1. Who is
          25 February 2016 17: 54
          +1
          You defend Trotskyism of the 1917-1927 of the year when the Russian people were simply destroyed, and cover it with the interests of the Russian people themselves. This is happening in Ukraine now.
          In the end, Stalin made a bet on the interests of the Russian people. especially when "it got hot in 1941 and made the right decision
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 29 February 2016 08: 59
            +1
            Quote: Who Is
            You defend Trotskyism of the 1917-1927 of the year when the Russian people were simply destroyed, and cover it with the interests of the Russian people themselves. This is happening in Ukraine now.
            In the end, Stalin made a bet on the interests of the Russian people. especially when "it got hot in 1941 and made the right decision

            Where did I defend Trotskyism? What specifically did this do?
            And Stalin did not "end up" betting on the interests of the Russian people, but at the very beginning. As a result, it became clear when the results appeared.
    2. Oladushkin
      Oladushkin 25 February 2016 11: 23
      +4
      It must be assumed that the author had in mind those rotten Trotskyists who wanted to set Russia on fire like a bundle of firewood in the crucible of the world revolution. By the way, Lenin also wanted at first, then he began to move away from this "wonderful" delusional thought.
      1. Corporal Valera
        Corporal Valera 25 February 2016 11: 37
        +1
        Quote: Oladushkin
        It must be assumed that the author had in mind those rotten Trotskyists,

        Then it was necessary to indicate this, and not to smear everyone with one world, but it turns out that Stalin was also a monarchist
        1. Who is
          25 February 2016 17: 56
          0
          And where in the article did I "smear everyone with one world"? Specific quote in the studio
    3. Altona
      Altona 25 February 2016 11: 25
      +7
      Quote: vladimirZ
      And then some Nikishin, trying to spoil, discredit the difficult time of restoring the country, the search for a new socialist spirituality.

      --------------------
      A new community, the Soviet people, was created. Spiritual, cultural, educated. But unfortunately, ancient prejudices, cave nationalism and other vestiges of the past prevailed. They tried to educate everyone, and there were universities in the Asian republics too. And the Russian people were the bond. But the union republics preferred to listen to their "Islamic brothers" and "overseas democrats." As for the Russian people, the author went too far, no one denied his greatness, and Stalin repeatedly emphasized. This whole little article smells like NTSovism, Vlasovism. Trotsky was removed in order to pull out the Zionist influence and the genocide of the Russians. By the way, why is another notable genocidal man not remembered, Nikita Khrushchev?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 25 February 2016 11: 41
        +8
        Quote: Altona
        and Stalin repeatedly emphasized

        "I am Russian of Georgian nationality"
      2. brisk
        brisk 25 February 2016 11: 55
        -1
        Quote: Altona
        As for the Russian people, the author went too far; no one denied his greatness, and Stalin repeatedly emphasized. This whole article smacks of some kind of NTSovschina, Vlasovschina.


        You simply did not live in those days. And you don’t know how developed then the spirit of knocking and the search for dissidents, who, naturally, are enemies. One had only to say in his work team even in 1965, not to mention in 1938, that in Czechoslovakia (however, the socialist country!) They make better shoes than in the USSR (which was absolutely true), that would be a 100% denunciation. And at least you would be pulled to a party meeting (even non-partisan). In 1965 they would almost certainly have been kicked out of work with a stigma, and in 1938 they would have thundered under article 58.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 February 2016 12: 04
          +1
          Quote: svelto
          not to mention in 1938 that in Czechoslovakia (socialist country however!)

          Absolute according to Freud? Correct it before it's too late
          1. brisk
            brisk 25 February 2016 15: 06
            -2
            Quote: Tusv
            Tusv (6) Today, 12:04 ↑
            Quote: svelto
            not to mention in 1938 that in Czechoslovakia (socialist country however!)
            Absolute according to Freud? Correct it before it's too late


            Well, what did you want to say or show? What do you understand in depth psychology? Humor and even satire. Do not talk about what little is understood. Or even - they heard a ringing, but don’t know where it came from. You will not look so funny. And Czechoslovakia, yes, there was such a country. And in 1938, and in the 60s of the 20th century. Right now the truth is not so: Czech Republic + Slovakia. What is wrong and not according to Freud? I can tell you about Jung and Grof, not only according to Freud. In 1938 it was not socialist; I didn’t say anything to the contrary. Your juggling is visible, with white thread it is sewn --- Onzheberdy. Yes? Or can't you read Russian? Algerian native? Or Afghanistan? Then excusable. Current must be more modest. This is to face.
        2. Altona
          Altona 25 February 2016 12: 06
          0
          Quote: svelto
          You simply did not live in those days. And you don’t know how developed then the spirit of knocking and the search for dissidents, who, naturally, are enemies. One had only to say in his work team even in 1965, not to mention in 1938, that in Czechoslovakia (socialist countries however!) They make better shoes than in the USSR (which was absolutely true), that would have 100% denounced you.

          ------------------------
          And where did I live then or did I not? And the spirit of snitching is not developed now? Now they knock a lot and not at all less, since you can knock at the prosecutor's office without leaving your computer. The district police officer told me that the criminals knock on each other in a black way. And what about the "black lists" when applying for a job, and "the degree of loyalty to the bourgeois ... pardon, the Russian entrepreneur"? What country do you live in?
          1. brisk
            brisk 25 February 2016 15: 13
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            Is the spirit of squealing not developed now? Now a lot of people are knocking and no less, the benefit to the prosecutor’s office can be knocked on without leaving the computer.


            You understand everything perfectly. You want shoby for freethinking began to be thrown in a dungeon prison? In 1938 it was everywhere so they were only looking. Now, glory to heaven, this is not. Not in Russia, and in most other countries of the world. I personally do not want to be broken and locked up for my thoughts that I can tell when I walk somewhere in the market. Or like in Saudi - my saber is your head off your shoulders! For freethinking! Is that ideal?
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 25 February 2016 11: 40
      +2
      Quote: vladimirZ
      Not tired of shitting, Nikishin?

      It must be brought to the abyss .... and give a good kick! And while he is flying, he will have time to think about why Russia is alive!
      1. Who is
        25 February 2016 18: 02
        +1
        Let down. Here I am! What can you offer me more terrible than I have already experienced with my country, Russia? Russian genocide in national republics? I went through it. The horrors of the 90's in Russia? I went through it. The temptation of wealth to zero? I went through it.
        Together with the country, without complaining, without immigrating for sausage and a long stamp, tolerating injustice and betrayal in power, honestly working for the good of Russia and Orthodoxy. What can you oppose to me?
    5. Viking
      Viking 25 February 2016 11: 49
      +5
      Especially Leiba Bronstein (Trotsky), Bukharin, Kamenev-Zinoviev were engaged in the restoration of Russia as a powerful country. For them (people of the world of well-known nationality) Russia was nothing more than a part of the International, fanning a fire in which they wanted to set the whole world on fire. Gesheft to stir up such a stir. Who does not remember: "We will fan the world fire on a mountain to all bourgeoisie"? And it is great happiness and good fortune that it was not this gang of "old revolutionaries" who won, but the statesman with an imperial bias I.V. Stalin, who really began to create a country through blood, hunger, and privation. And a powerful industrial leap took place under him, and not under the revolutionaries.

      “I, a Russian person of Georgian nationality,” Joseph Stalin began to set forth his autobiography.
    6. Hort
      Hort 25 February 2016 12: 36
      -2
      yeah, they found the sanctuary. How many of the same priests were shot, Cossacks, peasants during the surplus-surplus? Until the age of 27, there was practically no spirituality, everyone fought against everyone. And there were no good ones either side
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    8. alexey water
      alexey water 25 February 2016 13: 08
      -4
      vladimirZ Have you forgotten about the thousands of Russian lives ruined by the Bolsheviks in the 20s of the 20th century? Have you forgotten that the Bolsheviks plundered the entire country during this period, took away almost all the gold reserves, divided the country into parts? Lenin did this. Or do you not know how they called the invaders to the Russian land "order" to direct? The economy of "talentless tsarist" Russia occupied a leading position in the world, even after the war.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 13: 21
        +3
        Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
        Have you forgotten about the thousands of Russian lives that were destroyed by the Bolsheviks in the 20s of the 20th century? But didn’t you forget that the Bolsheviks plundered the whole country during this period, exported almost the entire gold reserve, divided the country into parts?

        enough nonsense
        Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
        The economy of "talentless tsarist" Russia occupied a leading position in the world, even after the war.

        especially for patients with brain liberalism
        In 1913, having received a record crop of grain - 80 million tons. - Russia per capita had about 471 kg of grain. England, France, Germany had about 430-440 kg, the USA - over 1000 kg, Canada - about 800 kg, Argentina 1200 kg.
        the yield in 1913 from tithing was,
        pounds: wheat rye
        Russia 55 56
        Austria 89 92
        Germany 157 127
        Belgium 168 147
        In 1913, there were only 152 tractors in Russia (in the USA, Germany, France, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, tractors counted thousands and tens of thousands). 80% of agricultural work was done manually
        agricultural production, billion rubles per capita, rub.
        US 15, 162 157, 83
        Germany 7,727 113, 63
        UK 4,262 92,22
        France 7,727 193,18
        Russia 10 57, 06
        There were 10000 doctors, 1,6 paramedics, 1,7 obstetricians and midwives for every 1,7 people in Russia. In rural areas, 1 doctor per 26 thousand people.

        In the United States, there were 10000 times more physicians per 4 people, in Germany - 2,7 times, in England - and 3,5, in Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands - 3,2 times more.

        Of every 1000 newborns under the age of 1 year, 263 children died in Russia. For comparison: in Sweden 70 children under 1 year old died for every 1000 births, in England - 108, in the USA and France - 112-115 ,. in Italy - 138, in Germany - 151. I.e. Russia outnumbered the countries of Europe and the USA by 1,74 - 3,76 times in child mortality.

        is it enough or for the rest of the industry, too, give "rainbow" figures ?!
        by the way, your surname is n vonidze, usually this karlych loves to talk about the "crunch of a French roll" talk nonsense
        1. alexey water
          alexey water 25 February 2016 13: 38
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          Vasilenko Vladimir "is it enough or for the rest of the industry, too, give" rainbow "figures ?!"
          This is the liberal tops. What are you referring to?
          What am I referring to? For example, the book by D. Zykin "How the great history of our country was slandered."
          Here is Kafengauz, a Februaryist, an adversary of tsarizam, deputy. The Minister of Industry and Trade of the Provisional Government admits in his study that over the past five years tsarist Russia has undergone a real breakthrough industrialization in a number of sectors, especially in the steel-foundry, machine-building and cotton industries. Significant successes were in aviation, rocket science.
          No tales needed. I know the history of my country.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 13: 50
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            Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
            What are you referring to?

            I remember something that we would drink Brudershaft
            Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
            What am I referring to? For example, the book by D. Zykin "How the great history of our country was slandered."

            well, bring the numbers, I’m wrong to refute, but the numbers, the economy, the economy are NUMBERS, not verbiage
            By the way, the figures that I gave in the public domain
            especially in the steel foundry, engineering and cotton industries. Significant successes were in aviation, rocket science.
            No tales needed. I know the history of my country.

            "name tell me a name" numbers in the studio, not snot smeared on a plate, but numbers, I will give such refute them
            In 1913 was The USA smelted 25 million tons of steel, Russia - 4,2 million tons., over 5 years in the United States, steel production increased by 5 million tons, - in Russia by 1,7 million tons (an average of 1 million, and 0,34 million tons per year). 1% of the increase in steel production was pulled in the USA by 200 thousand tons, in Russia by only 25 thousand tons - 8 times less.

            ps and who is Dmitry Zykin? !!
            which party is he a member of? why is it not possible to find his biography?
            1. alexey water
              alexey water 25 February 2016 14: 41
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              Vasilenko Vladimir
              I will not argue for the United States. Not studied. But I can say that in 1913 (14) -1916 according to: steel 4246939 tons - 4273460 tons;
              oil 9234,9 - 9879,7; coal 29 053,1 - 34 446,4; gross output of metal processing plants 646 064 - 1 424 892 (an increase of 220%); sugar and refining industry 297 584 -377 731 t.to military r .; starch-syrup 13 - 823 tons to military r .; salt production 19 115 1 - 977 765 2 tons, etc. The production of textiles and cast iron decreased during this period. The rest is growth.
              It can be seen with the naked eye that the Russian economy has developed. And do not forget that this is during the war, the First World War. Where Russia fought on an equal footing. Unlike the USA.
              "Which party is he a member of? Why is it not possible to find his biography?" Do not make me laugh!
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 52
                -1
                Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
                I will not argue for the United States. Not studied.

                learn, compare
                Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
                It can be seen with the naked eye that the Russian economy has developed. And do not forget that this is during the war, the First World War. Where is russia

                compare how much they have increased
                Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
                "Which party is he a member of? Why is it not possible to find his biography?" Do not make me laugh!

                and what’s funny ?!
                the fact that the author is a member of the Nazi party ?? !!!
          2. Aleksander
            Aleksander 25 February 2016 17: 27
            -2
            Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
            that over the past five years, tsarist Russia has undergone a real breakthrough industrialization in a number of sectors, especially in the steel-foundry, machine-building and cotton industries. No tales needed. I know the history of my country.


            Dear Alexey! You are certainly right, but argue with COMMAGINE- pointless. These are sect documents. Have you seen the sectarians thinking better That's it. Sheets are ready there invented for 70 years parallel reality-stories-because they worked on it and fed on it-tens of thousands "ideologues-scientists" lol... Korolenko, Tolstoy, Engelgart's "crusts" and so on. Crap "numbers" are all chosen and typed for a long time.

            I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the main thing, nevertheless, in the life of the state is its people (and for what purpose does it exist?) And its good. The great Russian people at the beginning of the 20th century was the fastest growing in the world, second largest in the worldbut only after 70 years of communist rule, he’s already DIED OUT. Here is the result of their activities and the murderous assessment of the Communists.

            In 1907, the main issue in European Russia was, where to get the land ?! In the late 1980s, there was SOMEONE to cultivate the existing arable land of the heart of Russia-Non-Black Earth.

            You can remember about TEMP the growth of industrial production at the beginning of the century 6-9% per year-tallest in the world , and about child mortality (only 15% more than in Germany and at the level of A-Hungary and France, in the USSR in 1985) TWO TIMES above(!) than in Germany and France 1985), about 11 dreadnoughts built by the Empire 7 years before the PM war (the Soviet Union could not, NOT ONE!), about 120 million books / year in Russia in 000, about 000 titles newspapers and 1914 types of magazines (including scolding the government!), about 160 000 schools (!) in Russia 1916 (today 60), about tens of thousands of students-more than in England, France and Germany (80% are raznoshintsy in contrast to the caste education of the West), about the best female higher education in the world, etc. -there is nothing to list. Mendeleev, Tsiolkovsky, Tamm, Kapitsa, Tupolev, Polikarpov, Antonov, Zhukovsky, Vavilov, Zelinsky, Chaplygin, Vernadsky, Landau, Mechnikov, Sechenov, Sikorsky, Zvorykin, Lobachevsky, Pavlov, Timiryazev, Pirogov, inventor of Popov radio, many others, Chizhevsky and many is Russia until the 17th.

            And again about the main thing, about the PEOPLE. In the Russian Empire in the 20th century, starvation deaths are already DID NOT HAVE (thanks to the imperial food capital system). Starvation died in the USSR 14 million people (20th, 30th, 46-47) - almost 10% of the population is a crime.

            The cries about "people's" power are also ridiculous when, at the most democratic elections in the world to the Constituent Assembly, the Bolsheviks completely "done", gaining 21% (already under their power-terror!). It was the dictatorship of the MINORITY, seized power by force.
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            2. alexey water
              alexey water 25 February 2016 17: 47
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              Aleksander
              Thank you, I really didn’t take that into account. I thought that in over 20 years we had already figured out everything at home.
              And thanks for the info. About typography and about the number of dreadnoughts is interesting.
              1. Aleksander
                Aleksander 25 February 2016 19: 03
                +2
                Quote: Alexey Vodyanoy
                And thanks for the info. About typography and about the number of dreadnoughts is interesting

                Yes, a lot of information, Alex!
                RUSSIA 1913 http://iamruss.ru/russia-on-the-eve-of-the-first-world-war/
                http://studopedia.org/10-50663.html
                http://www.contrtv.ru/common/2189/
                http://pravda.tvob.ru/istoriya/762-god-1913-rossiya-kotoruyu-mi-poteryali
                http://russian7.ru/2014/11/7-faktov-o-prodovolstvennojj-korzine-r/
                Why Russia is not yet Russia Volkov

                BOOKS 1913 - http://protown.ru/information/hide/6631.html

                We had Wonderful country! Free (a bunch of parties, opposition newspapers and magazines), the Duma (where are the pies and the Bolsheviks), from the very the best in the world and a humane judicial system (they justified the terrorist Zasulich), with the most humane punishment system in the world, with one of the best higher education in the world, female education (80% of the Gentiles are the best indicator in the world and almost free), free movement around the country and abroad , no one was afraid of anything, the flowering of literature, arts, science.
                It was not, of course, paradise. But compared with the Bolshevik Middle Ages (triples, dispossession, enemies of the people, etc. crap), this was a happy time.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 19: 20
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                  by links
                  coal mining in Russia:
                  1909 - 23365,9 thousand tons,
                  1913 - 31240,0 thousand tons,

                  and what do we have in the world?
                  2013 England
                  annual coal production reached its highest point - 292 million tons in 1913
                2. Who is
                  25 February 2016 19: 37
                  +1
                  Plus, the fifth economy in the world and the most progressive legislation in the world on the social protection of workers. by official recognition of US President Taft
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            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 17: 56
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              Quote: Aleksander
              Dear Alexey! You, of course, are right, but to argue with the commander is pointless.

              Well, refute these "agitation" with figures, what's the problem? !!!!!!
              Quote: Aleksander
              In the USSR, 14 million people died of starvation (20th, 30th, 46-47) - almost 10% of the population is a crime.

              in the Empire infant mortality 40% mint in millions
              Quote: Aleksander
              It was the dictatorship of the MINORITY, seized power by force.


              do not tell me why they didn’t die for Nicholas, but quietly changing their oath we went home
              1. Who is
                25 February 2016 18: 34
                +1
                Just for the autocracy, people were dying.
                But you tell me, where does Hitler from the document you cited?
              2. Aleksander
                Aleksander 25 February 2016 18: 34
                -3
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                well, refute these "agitation" with figures what is the problem? !!!!!!


                Nervous?
                Я LED a bunch of numbers. 14 million people , KILLED your criminal regime hunger is not enough for you?!
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Empire infant mortality 40% mint in millions

                I wrote about infant mortality in the Vasya Empire co-death 1985 (!) Was in TWO times higher mortality in the West. In the Empire, only 0-15% higher than in the West. In 1933, child mortality in hungry areas -60%-70%. COMMERCIALITY AND CRIME
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 18: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Aleksander
                  Nervous?
                  I LED a bunch of numbers. 14 million people KILLED by your hunger criminal regime, are you FEW ?!

                  what nonsense, why am I nervous ?!
                  that you brought the figure of 14 million, but a lot, but what does this prove about? !!!!!
                  Russia has been starving for almost its entire existence, as it is not regrettable, the proof is the words of people who lived at that time, I brought them
                  Quote: Aleksander
                  In 1933, infant mortality in hungry areas was -60% -70%.

                  this is hunger, by the way, that hunger if you study the topic was not inspired, but the fact that infant mortality in the Republic of Ingushetia was the norm in the "well-fed" years this is scary
                  Quote: Aleksander
                  I wrote about child mortality in the Empire-Vascha. Child co-mortality 1985 (!) Was TWO times higher than mortality in the West.

                  You are far from being cunning in all countries, and certainly not Romanians who are not good at this
                  1. Aleksander
                    Aleksander 25 February 2016 19: 16
                    -4
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    certainly not romanians work out on this subject

                    Oops! belay And this is the communist internationalist says! lol I don’t think you are more Russian than me. yes
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    that you brought the figure of 14 million, but a lot, but what does this prove about? !!!!!

                    In the Russian Empire of the 20th century, starvation DID NOT HAVE! (yes, there was, but they did not die!). And in the USSR they died 14 million people (+ cannibalism, corpse eating) -In the middle of the century, is this not a crime of power?
                    On child mortality, you CONFIRMED my words, did not notice, right? lol
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 19: 28
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                      Quote: Aleksander
                      Oops! And this is the communist internationalist says!

                      why such a "thought"? !!!
                      Quote: Aleksander
                      I don’t think you are more Russian than me.

                      thereafter
                      I wrote about child mortality in the Empire-Vascha. Child co-mortality 1985 (!) Was TWO times higher than mortality in the West
                      don't think so
                      and I’m silent about your frank lies
                      Quote: Aleksander
                      In Russia, the Empire of the 20th century, there were NO starvation deaths! (yes, there was, but they did not die!). And in the USSR 14 million people died (+ cannibalism, corpse-eating) -in the middle of the century, is this not a crime of power?
                      On child mortality, you CONFIRMED my words, did not notice, right?

                      You have a distinct idea. Learn to voice over child mortality. I haven’t confirmed anything from your lies.
                    2. Aleksander
                      Aleksander 25 February 2016 20: 36
                      -2
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      and I’m silent about your frank lies. Quote: AleksanderIn Russia, the Empire of the 20th century did not have any starvation deaths! (yes, there was, but they did not die!). And in the USSR 14 million people died (+ cannibalism, corpse-eating) -in the middle of the century, is this not a crime of power?

                      Alas, ALL statistical reports say this, Yours Urlanis commdemographs, etc. - no one found increased mortality in the Russian Empire in the 20th century.
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      You have a distinct idea. Learn to voice over child mortality. I haven’t confirmed anything from your lies.


                      You just You clearly do not know how-читать , which I wrote and presented by you, infant mortality in the Empire was 25 prm (graph), in the USSR-22,1 (graph 1981), is this miserable decrease for 65 (!) Years (3 prm) -DID NOT FAILURE ?!
                      Once again: in 1915 the child mortality rate was only 0-15% higher than the western one. In 1981, she was in TWO times higher western (11prm). Chew again?

                      Yes, and yet, I have no intention of convincing you, this is a priori impossible, I wrote something not to you, I wrote to a forum member who was interested in additional information. Way FROM I went through the Komsomol, reading a lot and COMPARING. But this is an individual way - not everyone wants to go it ...
                      For sim -hi Good luck in reading and cognizing the world ...
                    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 20: 58
                      0
                      mortality in the Republic of Ingushetia was overwhelming; mortality in the Russian Federation fell compared to the Republic of Ingushetia mortality in the Republic of Ingushetia was significantly higher than in other countries
                    4. Who is
                      25 February 2016 21: 00
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                      Figures and sources in the studio, pliz.

                      And then you, as here

                    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 15
                      +1
                      you have already given the numbers and quotes of contemporaries, enough to fool around already
                      I thought that at the Faculty of Petroleum and Mechanical Engineering they are taught to numbers and data is more carefully
                    6. Who is
                      25 February 2016 21: 18
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                      Figures and sources - in the studio

                      The rest is blah blah blah
                    7. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 20
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                      are you blind or not attentive ?!
                    8. Who is
                      25 February 2016 21: 22
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                      Well, write the same. For example, a collection of 18 of such and such a year, or the official directory of such and such a ministry from such and such a year.
                      Is it really difficult?))))
      2. Wheel
        Wheel 25 February 2016 21: 19
        +3
        Quote: Aleksander
        In Russia, the Empire of the 20th century, there were NO starvation deaths! (yes, there was, but they did not die!).
        But they didn’t try to turn to the documents, Mr. Sovramshi ??
        At the beginning of the XX century. the years 1901,1905,1906,1907,1908,1911-1912 were hungry.
        According to the annual report to the tsar-priest for 1901: "In the winter of 1900/01, 42 million people were starving, but 2 million 813 thousand Orthodox souls died." And in 1911 (after the so boasted Stolypin reforms): "32 million were starving, 1 million 613 thousand people were lost." Moreover, in each report it was emphasized that the information was compiled on the basis of data supplied by churches, as well as by rural elders and managers of landowner estates.
        Non-Orthodox souls simply did not count.
      3. Aleksander
        Aleksander 25 February 2016 21: 34
        -4
        Quote: Wheel
        According to the annual report to the tsar-priest for 1901: "In the winter of 1900/01, 42 million people were starving, but 2 million 813 thousand Orthodox souls died." And in 1911 (after the so boasted Stolypin reforms): “32 million were starving, losses of 1 million 613 thousand people


        You BREDYATINU-then lying, do not quote, please. There is a STATISTICS! Whose report quote, lord ignoramus, huh?
    9. Wheel
      Wheel 25 February 2016 21: 21
      +2
      Quote: Aleksander
      . And in the USSR, 14 million people died (+ cannibalism, carnivore) —in the middle of the century, is this not a crime of power?

      Hmm, the stakes are up! laughing
      Vadim237 claimed that 6 million
      Who is bigger?
      HISTORY OF LIGHTING THE HUNGER 1932-1933
      One of the earliest Western press campaigns against the Soviet Union was the continually circulated question of the millions who starved to death in Ukraine. The English journalist M. Muggeridge was the first in the West to publish a report on the famine in the USSR. In the last decade of March 1933, in the Manchester Guardian newspaper, he spoke about his impressions of his trip to Ukraine and the North Caucasus. Muggeridge described terrible scenes of famine among the rural population, witnessed the mass death of peasants, but did not give specific figures. On March 31, 1933, a refutation appeared in the Manchester Guardian newspaper entitled "Russians are starving, but do not die of hunger." It was written by the New York Times correspondent in Moscow W. Duranty, an Englishman by birth and citizenship, who managed to interview Stalin. In August 1933, the New York Herald Tribune published an article by Ralph Barnes claiming that a million people died of starvation. Further, the figure grew by leaps and bounds. Duranty in the New York Times hinted that the death toll is at least 2 million. A day later, in the same newspaper, F. Burchell reported 4 million dead. Therefore, due to the falsity of the information and the biased coverage of the famine in the above-mentioned articles, foreign journalists were prohibited from traveling to the regions affected by the famine. In 1934 W. Chamberlin, who had time to visit Ukraine and the North Caucasus on the instructions of the editorial board, published the book "The Iron Age of Russia" in Boston. In it, he stated that the famine covered an area with a population of 60 million, and the number of victims was 3-4 million. A large anti-Soviet campaign began on February 18, 1935 with the headline of the front page in the Chicago American: “6 million people died of hunger in the Soviet Union ".
    10. Aleksander
      Aleksander 25 February 2016 21: 44
      -4
      Quote: Wheel
      Hmm, the stakes are up!

      Respect at least the memory of Russian citizens who died of starvation, dear!
      Statement by the State Duma of the Russian Federation “In memory of the victims of the famine of the 30s on the territory of the USSR"- the number of victims is 7 million people.
      The 20s 5 млн, 1946 + 47 1,5 million
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 21
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    gentlemen, lovers of "French buns" refute me, but not with minuses but in NUMBERS
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 19: 46
      0
      http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/95945-obolgannye-i-oklevetannye-russkoe-samoderzh
      avie.html
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 19: 52
        -1
        I especially liked this phrase:
        "On the eve of the revolution, Russian agriculture was in full bloom."
        this despite the fact that productivity is 5 times lower than in the world, mechanization tends to zero
        These are not numbers. This is sophistry. Compare indicators in the Republic of Ingushetia and the USA, Canada, and at once fanfare turns into a funeral march.

        During the reign of Emperor Nicholas II, Russia was the main nurse of Western Europe.

        lies again
        in 1913, foreign Europe consumed 8336,8 million pounds of five major crops, of which 6755,2 million pounds (81%) of its own collection, and net import of grain - 1581,6 million pounds (19%), including 6,3 , 1% - the share of Russia. In other words, Russian exports satisfied only about 16/XNUMX of the needs of foreign Europe in bread.
        1. Who is
          25 February 2016 20: 12
          +1
          Yes Yes)))
          And the first place in the world in the export of grain - so, nothing))))
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 03
            -1
            per capita check, compare productivity (this is RI that RI was an agricultural country)
            in Russia in 1913, 30,3 pounds of grain were collected per capita, then in the USA - 64,3 pounds, in Argentina - 87,4 pounds, in Canada - 121 pounds. Thus, in collecting grain per capita, the United States was two times ahead of tsarist Russia, Argentina was three times ahead, and Canada was four times ahead.

            the yield in 1913 from tithing was
            pounds: wheat rye
            Russia 55 56
            Austria 89 92
            Germany 157 127
            Belgium 168 147

            and again the fanfare will turn into a funeral march, you study numbers one-sidedly

            By the way, in terms of grain crops in the amount of RI, the states were not in the first place
            1. Who is
              25 February 2016 21: 05
              -2
              Source to the studio!
              In my articles, each figure is confirmed by objective sources.
              Waiting for
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 16
                -1
                Quote: Who Is
                Source to the studio!

                problems with eyes ?! see links, in the end, people with technical education should be able to search for information
              2. Who is
                25 February 2016 21: 19
                -1
                References to historical sources.

                The rest is blah blah blah
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 22
                +1
                maybe then go to the state archive yourself ?!
                once again give YOUR numbers in comparison with data for other countries, give numbers for productivity, give YOUR numbers for mechanization of agricultural production in the Republic of Ingushetia, give YOUR numbers for hunger in the Republic of Ingushetia in the 17-19 centuries
              4. Who is
                25 February 2016 21: 23
                0
                Clear. You do not have links to official sources.
                Then do not whistle figs here))))
              5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 25
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                well my numbers are notion and stupidity, can you give what I asked ?!
                or are you afraid to sit in a puddle ?!
              6. Who is
                25 February 2016 21: 28
                -1
                Once again, go to my profile. there, in each article, comprehensive statistics with links to sources.
                You have only some recollections of the Bolsheviks
              7. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 31
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                Do you have a yield there in the Republic of Ingushetia, a comparative analysis of the Republic of Ingushetia and the countries of Europe and North America?
                give these numbers
              8. Who is
                25 February 2016 21: 33
                -2
                I gave an article in the comments where all the links are. You just need to go and see. But to you even this crowbar))))
              9. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 37
                0
                you gave data on productivity and per capita harvest, LIE?
              10. Who is
                25 February 2016 21: 38
                0
                Again. I brought the link to full OFFICIAL statistics. You didn’t back up your words with ANYTHING.
                And now do the flood. In vain
              11. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 46
                +1
                you're lying openly lying
                This is not an official e-news statistic.
                and these figures frankly cheating proudly shouted the yield of as many as 58 pounds, and the fact that no one remembers 168 in Belgium that same year, they say that they lived perfectly and the damned komunyaks came and ruined everything.
                lived BAD and no need to tell tales

                I gave you THE SAME NUMBERS BUT COMPARING WITH THE WORLD from this you are enraged that yours turned out to be inflated.

                the debate is over, until you on this forum date the comparison, and not your inflated "successes"
              12. Who is
                25 February 2016 22: 17
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                Vivsevretii - your favorite howl)))

                I brought you my article on another resource, backed up by historical links.
                You are NOTHING other than bare words and tales.
                On that and finish)))
            2. Aleksander
              Aleksander 25 February 2016 21: 57
              -3
              Quote: Who Is
              Again. I brought the link to full OFFICIAL statistics. You didn’t back up your words with ANYTHING.
              And now do the flood. In vain

              Dear Alexander! IMPOSSIBLE to convince them (even with obvious things) is a sect, such as Jehovah's lol
              From me to you + + +
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 02
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              give a comparative analysis and right away I admit that I’m wrong, well, unless of course it turns out that RI is ahead of the rest, just don’t give
            4. Who is
              25 February 2016 22: 20
              -1
              Do I owe you something?
              You gave the numbers, I asked for a historical source. You did not give.
              Well, they didn’t, they didn’t. Readers see everything)))
          2. Who is
            25 February 2016 22: 19
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            Thank. I know.
            See also this my article
            "Artificial famine as an instrument of genocide. On the anniversary of the defeat of the Tambov uprising."
            http://novorus.info/news/rusmir/25344-iskusstvennyy-golod-kak-instrument-genocid
            ak-godovschine-razgroma-tambovskogo-vosstaniya.html
  • Generalissimo
    Generalissimo 25 February 2016 21: 48
    +1
    were the states in the lead again? rye was not sown in Germany at all
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 00
      -1
      Quote: Generalissimo
      in Germany did not sow rye

      listen well enough is already nonsense to carry like talking in nete, check before you write chukhnu

      http://diplom-ref.ru/work008002.html
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 11
      -2
      quite funny, you were given a link to sowing rye in Germany with the author with the publication date, etc.
    3. Generalissimo
      Generalissimo 25 February 2016 22: 11
      +1
      diplomas abstracts? boo-go-ha !!! :-)
      you’re talking nonsense - rye was bought in Russia and smashed into German fields (as cod was later smoked into fields in the USSR) to improve their fertility,
      Germans don’t eat black hdeb; in general, only Russians eat it,
      German military-industrial potential was approximately equal to the total potential of France and Russia,
      the United States then represented a country worse than France in all respects, and France was lower than Russia :-)
      this does not agree with your "numbers" in any way, see the demotrivators following the link from "who is" (below the text) and understand what non-Russian teachers have stuffed you with from high school
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 19
      -1
      Eat a full spoon, lured stupidity you do not know how to use directories sit and do not show off

      "The first force in Germany continued to be the landowners cadets, they prevented the granting of equal political rights to the German bourgeoisie. The largest landowners were the Hohenzollerns, the reigning house that owned almost two hundred thousand hectares of land (188.786 hectares). The Bismarcks had more than twenty-six thousand hectares. land (26.387 hectares), Hohenlohe - more than sixty two thousand hectares (62.151 hectares) Prussian Junkerism retained its caste isolation and was imbued with the spirit of militarism, military clique.

      In agriculture, a transition was made from extensive to intensive farming methods. The rye yield in 1900 was twenty-five percent (25%) higher than in 1878. In general, the growth rate of agricultural production has been much slower than the growth rate of industry. The disproportion between the development of agriculture and industry in Germany did not diminish, but deepened. Germany was increasingly dependent on the import (importation) of agricultural products from abroad. German agrarians were ardent supporters of the introduction of protectionist tariffs, they sought to establish high import customs duties on grain in order to protect the domestic market from foreign competition. This would support high agricultural prices and boost agricultural profits. "

      http://vseprostrany.ru/index.php/2011-08-15-09-42-18/2011-08-28-05-58-49/2012-09
      -08-11-36-43/1877--------1880---3.html

      http://studopedia.ru/14_35265_angliya-v-h-godah.html

      http://www.studfiles.ru/preview/3220269/

      these sheep in the late 80s and rocked the boat, knowledge zero pontus for ten, they look at the book they see a fig
    5. Generalissimo
      Generalissimo 25 February 2016 22: 33
      0
      what was that all about?
      and, again, "studentopedia" in ... hit :-))) and sdudfiles.
      Bauers (farmers) are not cadets! :-)
  • SANAY
    SANAY 25 February 2016 13: 09
    0
    Comrade vladimirZ! If you do not know the topic, then there is nothing to be clever here! I did not notice liberalism in the article. The October Revolution is a terrible tragedy for our country. Our family affected by the repression. It's just the horror that was. I will not go into details. And you see, he remembered about socialist spirituality. Fu, you couch communist. Better go to the embrasure than to have a beer in the fridge.
  • Makslehman
    Makslehman 25 February 2016 14: 59
    0
    about how?)))
    Mass gangsterism, hunger ...
    What kind of frank delirium?
    The revolution achieved its goal, Russia withdrew from the World War, admitting defeat, and was deprived of reparation payments. Instead, agriculture was sacked and the fleet and army destroyed. Aviation was strangled in the bud. All economic life in the country has stopped.

    From 1900 to 1913 Russia's industrial production doubled.
    Export of Russian wheat amounted to 40% of the world.
    The police in Russia were generally small: 7 times less police officers per capita than in England, 5 times less than in France. However, crime in Russia was much less than in Western Europe, even in the years of unrest:
    The number of convicts (1905-1906)
    Per 100.000 population

    Россия 77

    USA 132

    England 429

    Germany 853
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 15: 01
      -1
      Quote: MaksLehman
      Export of Russian wheat amounted to 40% of the world

      but at the same time they themselves swelled up
      1. Makslehman
        Makslehman 25 February 2016 15: 12
        +1
        who is the fluff? just to blurt out?
        Forcibly, nothing was taken from the peasant farms before the Bolsheviks arrived.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 15: 20
          -1
          Quote: MaksLehman
          who is the fluff?

          peasants, the culture of the CX aspired to zero, the harvest was achieved not by the abundance of the harvest but by the sowing area, the yield as current compared with the world

          V. G. Korolenko
          , who lived in the village for many years, who was in other starving regions in the early 1890s and organized canteens for the starving and giving food loans, left very characteristic testimonies of civil servants: “You are a fresh person, you come across a village with dozens of typhoid patients, you see how the sick mother bends over the cradle of the sick child to feed him, loses consciousness and lies above him, and there is no one to help, because the husband mutters on the floor in incoherent delirium. And you are horrified. And the "old servant" is used to it. He had already experienced this, he was horrified twenty years ago, had been ill, boiled over, calmed down ... Typhoid? But we always have it! Quinoa? Yes, we have this one every year! .. ”

          “I know many cases when several families joined together, selected an old woman, jointly supplied her with the last crumbs, gave her children, and walked into the distance, where their eyes looked, with longing unknown about the children left ... As far as as the last stocks disappear among the population, family after family goes out onto this mournful road ... Dozens of families, spontaneously united into crowds, whom fear and despair drove to large roads, to villages and cities. Some local observers from the rural intelligentsia tried to create some kind of statistics to take into account this phenomenon that attracted general attention. Having cut a loaf of bread into many small parts, the observer counted these pieces and, serving them, determined in this way the number of beggars who had served for the day. It turned out that the numbers were truly frightening ... Autumn did not bring improvement, and winter was approaching in the midst of a new crop failure ... In the autumn, before the start of loan disbursements, again whole clouds of the same hungry and the same frightened people left the destitute villages ... When the loan approached by the end, begging intensified amidst these fluctuations and became more and more common. The family that served yesterday, today itself went out with a bag ... "
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 15: 22
          0
          Millions of desperate people took to the roads, fled to the cities, even reaching the capitals. Distraught from hunger, people begged and stole. Along the roads lay the corpses of the victims of hunger. To prevent this gigantic flight of desperate people into the starving villages, troops and Cossacks were injected, which prevented the peasants from leaving the village. Often they were not allowed at all, usually, they allowed only those who had a passport to leave the village. The passport was issued for a certain period by the local authorities, without it the peasant was considered a vagabond and far from everyone had the passport. A person without a passport was considered a vagabond, subjected to corporal punishment, imprisonment and expulsion.

          The starving stream was such that the police and the Cossacks could not keep him. To save the situation in the 90 of the 19 of the century, food loans began to be applied - but the peasant was obliged to return them from the harvest in the fall. If he did not repay the loan, then they would hang it on the village community on the principle of mutual responsibility, and then how it could happen they could ruin it cleanly, taking everything as arrears, could collect it with the whole world and repay the debt, they could beg the local authorities to forgive the loan.

          Now, few people know that in order to get bread, the tsarist government took tough confiscation measures - urgently increased taxes in certain areas, collected arrears, or simply took out the surplus by force - police officers with Cossack detachments, OMON of those years. The main burden of confiscation lay on the poor. Rural rich usually bought off bribes.
          Peasants massively sheltered bread. They were whipped, tortured, knocked out bread by any means. On the one hand, it was cruel and unfair, on the other, it helped to save their neighbors from starvation. Cruelty and injustice were in the fact that bread in the state was, albeit in small quantities, but it was exported, and a narrow circle of “efficient proprietors” was fattening from export.

          http://scisne.net/a-197
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 15: 24
          0
          Here is how Leo Tolstoy described his trip to several dozen villages of different counties at the very end of the 19th century:
          “In all these villages, although there is no mixture of bread, as it was in 1891, they do not give bread, although clean, freely. Welding - millet, cabbage, potatoes, even most, have no. Food consists of grass cabbage soup, whitened if there is a cow, and unbleached if there is none, and only bread. In all these villages, the majority sold and mortgaged everything that could be sold and mortgaged.
          From Gushchin I went to the village of Gnevyshevo, from which two days ago peasants came, asking for help. This village consists, like Gubarevka, of 10 courtyards. At ten yards there are four horses and four cows; almost no sheep; all houses are so old and bad they barely stand. Everyone is poor, and everyone is begging to help them. “If only the kids had a rest,” the women say. "And then they ask for folders (bread), but there is nothing to give, it will not fall asleep evenly" ...
          I asked to exchange three rubles for me. There was no ruble of money in the whole village ... In the same way, the rich, who make up around 20% everywhere, have a lot of oats and other resources, but besides this, landless soldiers' children live in this village. A whole settlement of these inhabitants has no land and is always in poverty, but now it is with expensive bread and with sparing giving of alms in terrible, terrifying poverty ...
          A tattered dirty woman emerged from the hut, near which we stopped, and went to a pile of something lying on a pasture and covered with a tattered caftan that was torn everywhere. This is one of her 5's children. A three-year-old girl is sick in extreme heat with a kind of influenza. Not that there is no talk of treatment, but there is no other food than the crusts of bread that the mother brought yesterday, leaving the children and running away with a bag for requisitions ... The husband of this woman left spring and did not return. These are approximately many of these families ...
          1. Who is
            25 February 2016 21: 25
            0
            Or maybe you will bring a collection of Russian fairy tales. Or Moidodyr and Bibigon?)))
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 34
              -1
              but what does the tale have to do with it, I brought you quotes from contemporaries, you can refute them with other quotes - please, only it seems to me that you cannot and that is why you are trying to make fun

              the easiest way to refute me is to give a comparative analysis of your own figures, but together with the data for the countries of the world I’m waiting
              1. Who is
                25 February 2016 21: 37
                -1
                Quotes in fairy tales too. No fiction, no statistics needed.
                I gave you all the sources. You are blah blah blah.
                And still waiting for something? Wait for health)))
        4. Generalissimo
          Generalissimo 25 February 2016 22: 15
          +1
          Germans swelled, rickets was the norm
  • Who is
    25 February 2016 17: 39
    -2
    Shit to whom? Storytellers from the story. located outside of Russia?
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 25 February 2016 11: 10
    +3
    Quote: kostik1301
    the author of this article fulfills the loot of the US State Department ..........

    The author expressed his position - what is wrong here? But he is only half right ...
    But the theme is fertile! Will now "boil" yes
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 25 February 2016 11: 33
      +8
      Quote: Aleksander
      But he is only half right ...

      So the voices were divided in half.
      Think about it,
      They saved Russ!
      Maybe it would be better not to save?

      Now they are repeating the same thing (liberalists).
    2. fif21
      fif21 25 February 2016 12: 01
      -3
      Quote: Aleksander
      Will now "boil"
      Why boil it? Russia is a multinational, multiconfessional country, and it has long been necessary to talk about Russians, and not about Russians, Tatars, Buryats, Jews .... the revival of (Russian, Tatar, Buryat ...) national and religious chauvinism is a direct path to the collapse of the country. hi Feuilleton smiled, that’s how they fought warps in Soviet times. And who now recalls that the Russian Empress Catherine, having been born a Catholic, converted to Orthodoxy? My personal opinion is that there are no bad nations and religions — there are bad people.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 15: 04
        +3
        Quote: fif21
        need to talk about Russians, not about Russians, Tatars, Buryats

        Do you know the difference between nation and nationality?
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  • Sunseich
    Sunseich 25 February 2016 11: 34
    0
    Author, correct a mistake in the name! Find and fix, you are our Russian, Mlyn!
    1. Sunseich
      Sunseich 25 February 2016 13: 46
      +1
      those who put the cons: and you yourself do not see the missed dash? ;)
      eh, Russians! Skipped member of the sentence "is".
      We are Russians!
      "is" we do not write, but they put a dash: "I am a pioneer", "we are builders"
      Respect your language
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 25 February 2016 17: 05
        +1
        Quote: SanSeich
        We are Russians!

        This is not the author’s mistake, but most likely the mistake of the moderators who inserted the picture. Nevertheless, the author also has some errors, albeit not spelling.
    2. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 06
      0
      And what a mistake?

      In agree to betray their homeland? Which one?
  • Achilles
    Achilles 25 February 2016 12: 02
    +4
    kostik1301 the author of this article fulfills the loot of the US State Department ..........


    What are you talking about? Here it’s just the opposite, the author writes that the West is trying to destroy us in all directions, but we can’t do anything with the Russians, the author writes that the Russians are very strong in the spiritual, and we do not have in the first place consumption like the West. There was a leader Putin who pulls the country out of the darkness. What kind of dough of the State Department do you mean?
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 06
      +1
      Thank you for understanding!
  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 25 February 2016 12: 02
    +1
    Quote: kostik1301
    the author of this article fulfills the loot of the US State Department ..........

    Neither to read, nor to think, is he not trained?
  • SANAY
    SANAY 25 February 2016 13: 02
    +2
    Kostik, I will not minus you. You are the one who was the first to shout: "- And not only acted, but made a counter-revolutionary sortie." Why did you get in here first? Where do you come from? It's disgusting.
  • Who is
    25 February 2016 17: 39
    +1
    Maybe tell me the amount?))))
    You are just a seer)))
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  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 25 February 2016 11: 00
    +7
    Concerning the Russian clergy before the revolution. Not everything is so simple. I understand that the idea of ​​bygone eras is formed from literary sources. So, take Chekhov, Pushkin, or Dostoevsky, one gets the impression of the priest as a fat, hypocritical loafer, like a bad political officer from the Soviet era, that is, "Do as I said, do not do as I do." It was not for nothing that after the revolution they actively campaigned against the Soviet regime, so it treated them like enemies with its inherent overlap. I admit that real priests also fell under the distribution, but for the most part they were enemies of the Soviet regime. If someone hates the Soviet regime, he reads the persecution of the clergy as a crime, if someone treats it objectively, he must admit that there were all sorts of priests. and not shed crocodile tears about everyone in general. It is too. that to blame the Soviet government indiscriminately for the terror of the 30s. But there, such characters as the executioners Zinoviev, Tukhachevsky, Yezhov and many others fell under the distribution.
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 25 February 2016 11: 00
    +7
    Anyone who has brains can do without this insulting propaganda and agitation.
    A true patriot loves his country not because the media writes beautifully about it.
    1. A.Lex
      A.Lex 25 February 2016 11: 34
      +2
      Yeah, let's be silent! And let the liars write ... Who will they believe then? Silent or those who "sing beautifully"?
      1. chikenous59
        chikenous59 25 February 2016 11: 46
        0
        Quote: A.Lex
        Yeah, let's be silent! And let the liars write ... Who will they believe then? Silent or those who "sing beautifully"?

        And let the liars master Kolyma)
        Yes, of course, state propaganda will not go anywhere, it has always been and will be)
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 25 February 2016 11: 04
    18
    "...Don't betray Russia! "
    A very relevant slogan for modern Russia! It is necessary to make a huge banner and hang it on the "house" of our government, the Ministry of Finance and the Duma! (there is no point in listing all the organizations).
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 25 February 2016 11: 26
      +1
      Quote: kapitan92
      A very relevant slogan for modern Russia! It is necessary to make a huge banner and hang it on the "house" of our government, the Ministry of Finance and the Duma! (there is no point in listing all the organizations).

      Take your "banner" called Bulletin for voting, put the necessary tick there and put it in the ballot box. But you can't rock the Russian boat.
      According to the article. I read, I did not understand. What did the author want to say?
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 25 February 2016 11: 57
        -1
        Do you seriously think that "ballot papers" really influence something? And about the article - the author himself hardly understood what he wrote.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 February 2016 12: 22
          -1
          Quote: DMB_95
          Do you seriously think that "ballot papers" really influence something?

          The electorate is the FSE. Otherwise, why do we have an explanatory conversation from the second volume of Mayakovsky's poems: "Little son came to his father ..." - the states are just plagiarists :)
        2. Who is
          25 February 2016 18: 09
          0
          Well, explain to me what I meant there that I wrote))))
      2. kapitan92
        kapitan92 25 February 2016 13: 45
        +5
        Quote: Tusv
        Rock the Russian nefig boat

        Do you think that a Russian boat is swinging with the slogan "Do not betray Russia" on the building of the liberal government ???
        Then you need a banner on the Kremlin: "Don't let the government betray Russia!"
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 February 2016 15: 08
          +1
          Quote: kapitan92
          When you need a banner on the Kremlin: "Don't let the government betray Russia"!

          A banner on the Kremlin is not needed. Not worth it.
          But some people need a Guard jar, so that it would be imprinted on the pope
      3. Who is
        25 February 2016 18: 08
        0
        Alas for you. So poorly read, obliquely
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 25 February 2016 11: 04
    -4
    an article in the name of God calling to hell.
    1. crumb
      crumb 25 February 2016 11: 19
      +5
      do you think loving Russia and Russians is the road to hell?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 25 February 2016 18: 38
        -1
        do you think loving Russia and Russians is the road to hell?
        In my opinion you said stupidity! How many of those who, disguised as love for Russia, pushed it into the abyss, it is enough to recall the civil war of the beginning of the 20th century or General Vlasov, and Yeltsin from all the stands shouted for love for Russia ...
        1. Who is
          25 February 2016 18: 41
          +1
          So you shout. Have you done what?
    2. smart Fox
      smart Fox 25 February 2016 11: 20
      +7
      You know, my dear, there are such articles that you first need to think about, and then throw slogans around. Think first, it helps a lot. And then many here on "Voennoye Obozreniye" have prepared slogans, but have no idea.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 25 February 2016 11: 04
    23
    The Russian man will not run from the abyss, but will come up and look at it. And then, when the head is spinning and terror sweeps, it will rush back and understand everything at once, without words.


    This is true ... there was a moment in my life when, in the face of death, I quickly realized how insignificant material values ​​and various blessings were and there was nothing more valuable than the life and love of my family people.
    The authors of this article may be accused of Russophilia, but he does not need to be afraid of this.
    If you love your people the way they are, despite all the shortcomings, you can be calm and confident in your soul.

    smile I must say, the trials of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE have not ended today, we will have to prove for many, many years our right to exist, our identity, the right to our history and much more.
    We are at a crossroads again, and in which direction history will lead us ... it is covered in a gloom of obscurity.
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    5. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 25 February 2016 12: 28
      0
      We are at a crossroads again, and in which direction history will lead us ... it is covered in a gloom of obscurity.
      There is a choice, the decision is up to Vityaz.
    6. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 10
      0
      Thanks for the right and kind words!
  • A-Sim
    A-Sim 25 February 2016 11: 11
    0
    Russian, "Don't betray Russia!"
    (item 228)

    But is there any fraud ??? Inexplicably ....
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 25 February 2016 11: 17
      +2
      Quote: A-Sim
      Russian, "Don't betray Russia!"
      (item 228)

      What did you mean? How is Article 228 related to the betrayal of the motherland?)
      1. A-Sim
        A-Sim 25 February 2016 11: 26
        -2
        typo. read 282
      2. el coyote
        el coyote 25 February 2016 13: 04
        -1
        Article 228 of the Tax Code. Features of tax calculation in relation to certain types of income. Tax Payment Procedure

        Pay taxes, do not betray Russia! Still obvious. What did you think ?! wassat
        1. chikenous59
          chikenous59 25 February 2016 13: 18
          0
          Quote: el Coyote
          Article 228 of the Tax Code. Features of tax calculation in relation to certain types of income. Tax Payment Procedure

          Pay taxes, do not betray Russia! Still obvious. What did you think ?! wassat

          I think the author meant the Criminal Code. Storage, distribution, marketing ...
  • nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 25 February 2016 11: 14
    -1
    Personally, I do not understand the meaning of such articles. Another fecal spray on the fan? hi
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 12
      +1
      You think in these categories. Feces, shit, stuffing ..... So you do not understand
  • Batia
    Batia 25 February 2016 11: 18
    +8
    Do not betray !! It should be in everyone’s soul. Traitors are not born, they become traitors.
  • edeligor
    edeligor 25 February 2016 11: 19
    -4
    It was Vladimir Putin. It took several decades to, as in the case of Stalin, the whole ideological machine of the West fell upon him. Putin "gets his" almost online, without delay. But no less vicious and massive. Still, he thwarted the next plans for the destruction of Russia and the Russian people. This is not forgiven to anyone.
    I never accept leaderism, although I respect this person. You cannot judge a whole nation, ethnos by one leader. "Do not betray Russia" does not mean at all to support the "current" position of the Kremlin assessors, so who is responsible for the betrayal is 0,5% of the population, called those in power ...
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 25 February 2016 11: 21
    +2
    In this article, using the example of a rural gathering, the author introduced us to the village of urakov. But history teaches us that during ANY revolution, like feces in a storm in the sewers, fools and scoundrels float into the light of God. An example of this is the recent history of the Ukrainian Maidan. Therefore, if someone wants to write a true history of a past era, he must take it into account in its entirety. and not just whine about the meeting led by a d. urak. Now the question “Who are you masters of culture with?” Arises in full growth if you want to humiliate the Russian people on the basis of the description of the d.uraks. then say so.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 25 February 2016 11: 21
    +5
    Patriots are different, some shout about honor, while abandoning their sick parents, while others are silent in a rag and drag the latter on themselves. Some destroy their country in order to forget the past, while others rebuild it based on their history and correcting earlier mistakes. Patriot discord.
  • igorra
    igorra 25 February 2016 11: 24
    +2
    Or maybe this church abandoned the people and sided with the power of those holding it, the Russian people, in their true essence, a God-chosen and God-guided people, could not turn away from the church and curse priests overnight, well, he did not see his leaders and assistants in them by then. ..
    And now, I’m not talking about the 90s, the voice of the church is not heard. Maybe it's time to decide how your predecessors in all difficult times in Russia?
    1. 34 region
      34 region 25 February 2016 12: 38
      0
      Igor! 11.24. About the miserable church. Did the church not support the overthrow of the king? If before the 17th year there were a lot of churches in the country and everyone was such a believer, then why are they so united against the church? Demolished all the churches? In my opinion, in Soviet times, there were churches in every locality. It can only except cities built from scratch in the Soviet period. How is religion connected with the prosperity of the country? The more you pray, the better you live? But judging by the faces of praying people, they live very hard. Maybe it's not about prayers? Today, churches are on every corner. Do they contribute to the prosperity of the country? Today, in my opinion, the church is trying to get into the governance of the country. Do we need this? The church carries out commercial activities. So prayers alone do not bring any benefits? It turns out like this. Does faith create commerce or does commerce create faith? Why is it necessary to be religious? The war of religions begins? Is this faith good, but is it bad? But what is the ideology of man bad for man, brother and comrade? Igor! It’s just me in addition to your thoughts. In my opinion they wanted to say a lot but could not. hi
      1. Who is
        25 February 2016 18: 15
        0
        The church did not support the overthrow. Give the documents. confirming your statement.
        The church canonized the royal family as holy martyrs, on whose blood a new Russia will be reborn
  • paxil
    paxil 25 February 2016 11: 25
    +4
    Everything was in the history of our long-suffering Motherland, bad, good, dashing years gave way to hard times, there were times more calmly. But I will never understand those who say, at the first difficulties in the country, who are starting to complain and are ready to trade for cookies from the Motherland. I I simply despise them, all sorts of grant-eaters and grant-grants who run to the bourgeois embassies to complain and get c / y. Soon, the State Duma elections will then see who has so much trust left, looked here excerpts from the congress very painfully Medvedev is confident, but in vain. The whole country for sale, I even felt uneasy when this dvorkovich offered control packages of our oil industry to the Japs. Although I make a reservation in the economy, I understand little of what I mean, but the good of the people of the bourgeoisie, especially the Japs, is already too much.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 25 February 2016 12: 51
      +1
      Pixel! 11.25. Maybe I'm wrong. But in my opinion, for some reason people far from poor are running to the foreign embassy for cookies. What is it? The serf complex? Inferiority complex? Why did Gorbachev sell the power? Was there a bad country? Was it weak to strain yourself? Maybe modern beggars are the same impotent as Gorbachev? Why do they stubbornly do not want to do anything themselves, but constantly rely on their uncle? Do we really need anyone to lead the country? Eternally asking beggars from the porch or men with psychology, no one but me? Why do we feed the beggars? As for stuffing pockets, their exhaust is good. And in terms of work? Where is the result? The question again arises. Why do we need them (beggars)?
      1. paxil
        paxil 25 February 2016 13: 50
        +1
        Quote: Region 34
        Pixel! 11.25. Maybe I'm wrong. But in my opinion, for some reason people far from poor are running to the foreign embassy for cookies. What is it? The serf complex? Inferiority complex? Why did Gorbachev sell the power? Was there a bad country? Was it weak to strain yourself? Maybe modern beggars are the same impotent as Gorbachev? Why do they stubbornly do not want to do anything themselves, but constantly rely on their uncle? Do we really need anyone to lead the country? Eternally asking beggars from the porch or men with psychology, no one but me? Why do we feed the beggars? As for stuffing pockets, their exhaust is good. And in terms of work? Where is the result? The question again arises. Why do we need them (beggars)?

        So they, like Humpbacked, want to live well somewhere abroad. I have never heard that simple hard workers were inclined to run around embassies, these are our liberals who have long had a psychology of servility since the 90s. It’s time to stop this rotten democracy and squeeze all the traitors. Look at the mattress in the Internet, try to blurt out something about the black gentleman, right away people in black will descend laughing But in our country mud is being poured openly on the guarantor of the constitution and nothing, nobody is touching them yet.
  • Damask
    Damask 25 February 2016 11: 25
    -1
    Just not us. Perhaps, in the entire history of Russia there has not been a decade more terrible for us than a decade after the October Revolution. We and our country were simply destroyed, physically and spiritually
    Another historian was found, the people rose, it’s bad, the revolution is bad too, but kings and drunks are good, clowns in power are even excellent, the author of a trip to Russia, appreciate the present
  • pts-m
    pts-m 25 February 2016 11: 27
    -2
    It seems that the hypothesis is confirmed ... about the population of planet Earth by people from other different planets of the Universe. The people came to the territory of Russia from Noble and Soul Planets, but they came from the planets of serpents and bastards to the Pendostan territories .... although the understanding is positive and the negative comes with age, and even then not everyone. But the most important thing is that a person looks at all the events from his bell tower, unless of course he has it.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 25 February 2016 12: 55
      0
      Pts-m! 11.27. I'm afraid the theory of aliens among us is confirmed. And this is a race of extraterrestrial reptilians. With the same reptilian psychology. Saw-swallow.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 25 February 2016 11: 28
    +3
    In the speech of Stalin on the recognition of the role of the Russian people, it is striking that he was not Russian by birth recognized the role of the Russian people. After all, what would happen if, instead of Russians, there were British, Germans, well, or even Poles, as Tatars, Chuvashs, Yakuts would feel ... most likely they felt like Indians in the United States. Not understanding the unifying role of the Russian people, the division of the peoples of Russia into republics, as well as the division along other lines leads us to death. Do we have time to step back.
  • Riv
    Riv 25 February 2016 11: 28
    0
    Everything would be fine ... if not for the golden watch on the hand of the Orthodox patriarch. Abyss, you say? There may be an abyss ...
  • njvlin
    njvlin 25 February 2016 11: 31
    +1
    Well, what new have we learned from the archpriest ??? It’s interesting, but does the author of the article know the Anthem of modern liberals?: “We love to eat shit abroad and drink marijuana with urine, bite Bandera fat, and then burp it all
    And with a hangover, having pecked, spitting in RUSSIA did not care. Join us in our clan, scum, bastards and hasty creatures. The more we will be - we will be bolder, bolder, faster and more RUSSIAN PEOPLE to litter ”
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 18
      0
      Thank you for pointing out to me, the author, your anthem
  • Scud
    Scud 25 February 2016 11: 31
    +5
    The greatness, power and wealth of the whole state consists in the preservation and propagation of the Russian people.
    Mikhail Lomonosov.
  • weksha50
    weksha50 25 February 2016 11: 33
    +4
    The topic raised by the author is ambiguous in perception ... I did not put either a plus or a minus, since I find it difficult ...

    And about the abyss ... Since the end of the 80s, various "well-wishers-partners" have pushed us towards it, and we, the Russian people (I mean not the "nationality" column, but the Russian spirit and self-affirmation), in our simplicity of spiritual (THIS is spiritual simplicity and trust - also our distinguishing feature) were led to various fairy tales and walked, walked in the direction of the cliff ...

    Thank God, they seem to have come to their senses ... Unfortunately, not all of them ... And of these "unreported" a lot of people settle in the echelons of power and shit, shit, shit, trying to push Russia and its people to the last, fatal step .. ...

    We will not blame our foreign enemies for our problems ... But even when uprooting internal enemies, God forbid to go down to the described example with a teacher ...

    PS And about "Do not betray Russia" ... I would like to say to the current composition of the government and the Duma, as well as to the "oligarchs-thieves" of the local spill: "Do not betray Russia !!!" ...
  • ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 25 February 2016 11: 34
    0
    Not having read my brains about something, they began to argue that something was wrong in this article. Yes, it was all, but something is not right in it, this is my personal opinion. request The magazine "30 days" certainly has an owner (who is he) and prints of an earlier issue, to read and compare, a lot will fall into place.
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 18
      0
      Let's talk. What's wrong?
  • Lelek
    Lelek 25 February 2016 11: 35
    +9
    (It didn’t take several decades for, as in the case of Stalin, the whole ideological machine of the West fell upon him. Putin “gets his” almost online, without delay. But no less viciously and on a large scale. He would also frustrate the next plans for destruction Russia and the Russian people. This is not forgiven to anyone.)

    And after the Western apologists howl raised and do not stop to this day, our home-grown whites-liberals, who harbored anger at their state for being driven away from the national "trough". They are ready to cheat, sell, betray, covering up their selfish ambitions with grandiloquent speeches about freedom and democracy (of course, exclusively of the Western type). And they sell for "green", and betray, and throw mud "from there" and "from here", and they predict, they predict ... And some "guardians" go even further - they help the enemy in word and deed. Here's a final example:
    (cry.)
  • guzik007
    guzik007 25 February 2016 11: 38
    +2
    Author, porridge in the head. Do not blame me. If I would call this opus - Don’t betray the faith and your people, I would understand.
    Personally, I do not accept those who transfer from one faith to another, as in blowing a handkerchief. But what does multinational Russia have to do with it?
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 19
      0
      Specifically, what are the objections and what is the mess?
  • Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 25 February 2016 11: 41
    +2
    I sincerely thank the author of this discussion article ...
    But I also had a situation when I really approached the edge of the abyss and ... jumped away so that with every cell I physically felt the whole horror of what I had gotten into!
    More than thirty years have passed since then, and with poorly concealed fear and with a shudder, I remember that moment every time ... In such cases they say, they say, the Lord has saved! I agree.
    ... A weak person, but - "We are Russians - what happiness!" (A.V.Suvorov)
    Once again, thanks for the article.
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 20
      0
      Thank you for understanding and support
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 25 February 2016 11: 42
    +3
    Milestones of betrayal: 1905,1917,1991-1993,1996? What next? Werewolf demons in society begin again their machinations at the instigation of the Evil-USA empire!
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 25 February 2016 11: 53
    +2
    See the root. An article in this series. Good, right. Thanks to the author. But, unfortunately, rare for our media. Which is not surprising. After all, they are controlled by the descendants of those who gave us 1917 and the subsequent genocide of the Russian people. The Russian people are reborn as a phoenix, while remaining faithful to God. It is necessary to clean the Augean stables of the Ministry of Education, which poison the souls of our children on the instructions of the servants of Satan. But this is not in our power for now. Many people have not watched TV for a long time and do not allow their young children to do it. It is in our power. Elections in our country do not solve anything - they choose who they appoint. It is necessary to provide individual spiritual, first of all, resistance to the forces of evil. Support each other in this regard.
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 21
      0
      Thank you, we must be united like a fist
  • aleksfill
    aleksfill 25 February 2016 11: 56
    +4
    "... According to Hieromonk Damaskin, by 1939 there were 1277 churches left in Soviet Russia (out of 54 thousand). Only four ruling bishops were at large ... In pre-revolutionary Russia there were about thirty thousand monastics and more than 110 thousand white clergy, more than one hundred bishops ... "
    In front of my eyes for 2016, in the city of my residence, with a population of slightly more than 100 people,
    over the past 25 years, 4 religious buildings have been erected and two more - a cathedral and a mosque under construction,
    during this time not a single school, not a single kindergarten was built, but 6 schools, including
    the oldest, since the time of Nicholas the Bloody, closed due to their dilapidation.
    ministers of worship, barely able to fit into representative foreign cars, without disgust - it is impossible.
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 22
      -1
      So who's stopping you from building your own? You. like dill. do not build your own,
    2. SG11
      SG11 25 February 2016 18: 48
      -2
      and the comments of the descendants of the ghouls of the NKVD read, do you think, more pleasant?
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 19: 22
        0
        you do not live a ghoul including those who served in the NKVD
  • Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 25 February 2016 11: 57
    +2
    I agree with the author
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 12: 06
    +1
    Perhaps, in the entire history of Russia there has not been a decade more terrible for us than a decade after the October Revolution. We and our country were simply destroyed, physically and spiritually. They destroyed our churches, killed tens of thousands of priests, scientists, poets, destroyed our families, our mentality, our morality, replacing the old ideals with chimeras and simulacra.

    why remembering October forget about February? !!!!!
    why do they shyly look away?
    why they don’t remember who abolished the unity of command in the army and when they started to kill officers in Kronstadt ?!

    they immediately remember how Russia "developed" at the beginning of the century, but it did not develop but was dying in a drunken stupor, no one remembers child mortality, illiteracy, they recall the famine of the 20s, 30s, but they are silent that rural Russia ALWAYS bent over from hunger, because grain was sold abroad and the yield was such that the people in the village did not have to die like flies, infant mortality was 40 (FORTY)% of them 40% are children under one year old
  • antifa
    antifa 25 February 2016 12: 23
    0
    Russia has two internal enemies - snickering oligarchs and corrupt liberals. Liberasts are probably even worse - they directly insult their people and introduce their hatred towards them to the masses. I don’t understand why you stand on ceremony with them. Only no revolution is death. From personal experience I’ll say.
    1. A revolution is made from outside (they have been preparing for more than one year) with the goal of destroying statehood and turning the country into a colony.
    2. Active "revolutionaries" - crime with the appropriate concepts.
    3. There comes a significant significant deterioration in the lives of ordinary citizens for a very long time.
    And thousands of dead and crippled.
    I don’t have a recipe, maybe the desire to improve the lives of ordinary citizens so that they do not think about revolution.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 12: 32
      0
      Quote: antifa
      They make a revolution from the outside (they have been preparing for more than one year) in order to destroy statehood and turn the country into a colony.

      It turns out that the Romanov family of foreign agents ?!
      a revolution can only be made if the country is ready for it, otherwise it will be wasted money.
      What do you think will be held in Russia some thread Maidan? !!!
      I'm so not so sure
  • CONTROL
    CONTROL 25 February 2016 12: 26
    +1
    50/50? or -100 / + 100?
    ... And about the mess in my head - that's right! Controversy on controversy - they are too close put; Well this is not a discussion of logicians - thesis / antithesis! ...
    ... By the way, about the "white", "red" and "spiritual" - out of "purely coupled interest" try to delve into the statistics (this is to pour mud - and sometimes blood! - Orthodox clergy and church ministers): how many active priests served in the army or the navy? in the ranks of officers? fought? "sniffed" - and even ate heavily - gunpowder? ... And also - were - and remain! - doctors, writers, engineers ... scientists teaching, say, physics at the university ... and ruling the service in the temple? ...
    Try it - statistics ... Surprise!
  • Obolensky
    Obolensky 25 February 2016 12: 30
    +2
    Traitors have always been! And now there are, and then were. And a century ago, and two, and five. I just don’t understand one thing, why is it so many negative for years after the First World War? Well, yes, it was a tough time. Is it easier now? No, not easier. Something has changed, but something remains unshakable always.

    Easy to stick traitor label. Especially for those in power. They don't have to hang a yarl. But if you think about it, I think that no matter what historical period was - any person can be slandered. What they were doing now, and then they are doing it. One word, one stroke of the pen - and there is no person.

    The poems presented in the article did not like very much. Already jarring. No, of course people had talent. But to offend your own country, even if it has a different power ... I don't know, only a traitor can do this. I can only say: "The rulers are changing, the power is changing - but the people and the homeland, it is the same. It is both a mother and a father. And in difficult times it is the homeland and love for it that allow you to perform feats that have been glorified for centuries."
  • Nick
    Nick 25 February 2016 12: 38
    -1
    Quote: Corporal Valera
    How, in the author's opinion, are the occupation troops cooperating with the white movement or football again with one goal? Did the Bolsheviks also bring the "international financial capital", over which the author is so indignant, to Russia?

    You do not quite understand the author IMHO.
    The author just says that in the era of the turbulence and collapse of the Russian Empire, when the Trotskyist internationalists, in fact mercenaries of world financial capital, tried to use Russia, its resources were not for the good of the Russian people and peoples allied to it, who had lived in Russia for centuries, and, as they themselves said, to use Russia as brushwood to foment a world revolution and transfer power over the World to world financial capital, there was such a person, Stalin, who led the Bolshevik party, and led by comrades-in-arms of the Bolsheviks, he captured Great Russia in the form of the USSR - the Red Empire, and saved the world from the iron heel of world Zionism.
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 28
      0
      I completely agree, thanks!
  • Corvetkapitan
    Corvetkapitan 25 February 2016 12: 40
    +1
    Every time Russia found itself on the edge of the abyss through the fault of a stupid snickering herd who considers himself an elite and is at the helm of the country. I will not defend the Bolsheviks, but revolutions do not take place from scratch. Russia was brought to revolution not by Lenin, but by the stealing government of Tsar Nikolashka- Due to the fault of the stupid tsar, Russia lost the Russian-Japanese war and lost the battles of the First World War, which demoralized the army. Now all sorts of Abramovichs have more yachts than the Caspian flotilla, and the people in Russia, to put it mildly, not too well, and then again they will say that some kind of Lenin is to blame ... More it is necessary to think and develop it about the country and people, and not to provide loans to Ukraine, Armenia and Kyrgyzstan, which no one will return to Russia ...
    1. Generalissimo
      Generalissimo 25 February 2016 14: 31
      -3
      under Tsar Nicholas the 2nd growth of everything was in the economy :-)
      Emperor Petrushka-1 who spread rot Russian we certainly love? only Trotsky-Bronstein surpassed him in this occupation ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 34
        0
        Quote: Generalissimo
        under Tsar Nicholas the 2nd growth of everything was in the economy :-)

        NUMBERS
        Quote: Generalissimo
        Emperor Petrushka-1 who spread rot Russian we certainly love?

        no
        1. Generalissimo
          Generalissimo 25 February 2016 14: 50
          -3
          find yourself - not a problem, as well as about population growth
          and what about the preferences of the "Corvettencapitan"?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 53
            -1
            Quote: Generalissimo
            find yourself - not a problem,

            I already found below read
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 14: 56
            -1
            By the way, if I say that you are not a very good person, then I have to prove it and not you to make excuses
            1. Generalissimo
              Generalissimo 25 February 2016 15: 07
              0
              By the way, I don’t know what you found and where it came from, but under Nicholas II the gross national product grew and the population grew like nowhere and never in the world, which is why it took "great shocks" to cut and cut Russians.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 19: 05
                +1
                Quote: Generalissimo
                but under Nikolay-2m the gross national product grew and the population grew as nowhere and never more in the world

                in 1913, Russia was inferior to the United States in terms of gross national product per capita by 9,5 times, England by 4,5, Canada by 4, Germany by 3,5, France, Belgium, Holland, Australia, New Zealand, Spain - 3 times, Austria-Hungary - 2 times

                Volumes of industrial production in 1913:
                Total, billion rubles per capita, rubles
                USA 38,13 397,19
                UK 15,5 336,96
                Germany 12,4 182,35
                France 10,54 263,5
                Russia 7,75 44,29

                At 24472 factories there were only 24140 electric, steam, diesel engines (with an average power of 60 hp). That is, not even every plant had at least one engine.

                The level of labor productivity in industry in Russia was less than: in the USA - in 9 times; in England - 5 times; in Germany - 4 times.
                1. Who is
                  25 February 2016 19: 45
                  0
                  Can you link?

                  In contrast, I will give my http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/95945-obolgannye-i-oklevetannye-russkoe-samoderzh
                  avie.html
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 20: 02
                    0
                    on your reference I already forgive you "stuck"

                    http://tainy.net/6830-kormila-li-rossiya-pol-evropy.html
                    http://www.rusproject.org/node/25
                    1. Who is
                      25 February 2016 20: 13
                      0
                      What pierced. official statistics?)))) And the most complete)))
                      http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/2017471
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 08
                        +1
                        I came across you with your own statistics, you can be proud of 29 million tons of coal per year and an increase of as much as 10 million, but exactly until you know that 290 were mined in England the same year
                        do not need naked statistics on the Republic of Ingushetia, let's compare it with other countries
                      2. Who is
                        25 February 2016 21: 11
                        -1
                        Links where?

                        It’s hard for you with the sources, one vodichka from Jean-Jacques)))))
                      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 19
                        0
                        look carefully, this is no longer funny
                        By the way, do you have a little water, if so smart, bring your numbers in comparison with similar ones in other countries, WEAK? !!
                        see YOUR numbers on productivity and other successes per capita (this does not apply to productivity)
                      4. Who is
                        25 February 2016 21: 20
                        0
                        What to watch ???

                        Historical sources are needed, not modern fantasies
                      5. Generalissimo
                        Generalissimo 26 February 2016 02: 57
                        0
                        but the "corvette captain" is silent ... the question is uncomfortable
        2. Generalissimo
          Generalissimo 25 February 2016 20: 13
          -2
          it’s nonsense of a sixties-old dissident ... in 1913 the United States was nothing serious
          1. Who is
            25 February 2016 20: 15
            0
            Bullshit is the favorite word of our creative-liberal part of clergy)))
            Except "delirium". are there any other arguments?))))
            1. Generalissimo
              Generalissimo 25 February 2016 20: 23
              0
              look after outflow and compare with numbers in his comment
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 21: 10
            +1
            Quote: Generalissimo
            it’s nonsense of a sixties-old dissident ... in 1913 the United States was nothing serious

            but at the same time were leaders about grain production had excellent shipyards
            1. Generalissimo
              Generalissimo 25 February 2016 21: 49
              0
              while the United States was below France :-) which is also an agrarian country
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 03
                +1
                Quote: Generalissimo
                while the United States was below France :-)

                lower in what ?!
                although if you haven’t sowed rye in Germany then everything is possible
              2. Generalissimo
                Generalissimo 25 February 2016 22: 37
                -1
                in almost everything, and the climate in France is better than in the usa
                moreover, they haven’t eaten it yet ... and now they don’t eat it! :-)
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 47
                -1
                do you understand what you wrote?
                and most importantly what they wanted to say?
              4. Generalissimo
                Generalissimo 26 February 2016 02: 47
                0
                why don't you understand?
  • Who is
    25 February 2016 18: 29
    0
    Taki was. and the largest in the world. Read my articles on the Military Review, they have a lot of statistics
    1. Generalissimo
      Generalissimo 25 February 2016 22: 51
      -1
      Oh, I can’t! :-)
      Vasya you write one thing and he thoughts () somewhere else
      Yes, where does the statistics?
      they don’t eat brown bread in Europe, the United States became a superpower only in the second half of the 20th century, and he compares everything with Khrushchev’s (catch up with and overtake) Russia with the USA in 1913
      better at least ilf petrov mid-1930s about 1-story america read
      1. Who is
        25 February 2016 22: 54
        -1
        And from which country is this comrade? I don’t understand something of his flag
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 February 2016 22: 59
        0
        Quote: Generalissimo
        Oh, I can’t! :-)

        you can't go to the wind
        Quote: Generalissimo
        usa became a superpower only in the second half of the 20th century

        you may be offended may not, but you are stupid, and what can it be, the superpower Canada has never been there but among the leaders in wheat production, Argentina does not even dream about superpowers
        Quote: Generalissimo
        1913 compares Russia with the USA

        and why not if the tractor was not over the power by orders of magnitude more than RI? !!!
        don't like with the USA compare productivity with germany productivity with belgium or france

        give an analysis to lovers of french buns

        Quote: Generalissimo
        do not eat brown bread in Europe

        two people like you used that "I serve the Soviet Union" entered in 43
        Rye is fodder, once again I will not cut, do not meddle in a dispute, well, or at least collect the info
        1. Generalissimo
          Generalissimo 26 February 2016 02: 54
          0
          Fodder is barley. It is unprofitable to sow rye in Germany. This is a culture for a poor climate.
          Here you go, but not against the wind. :-) From rye in German horses gases start in about the same way as the Germans themselves, even worse ...
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 26 February 2016 07: 21
            0
            Quote: Generalissimo
            Fodder is barley.

            ohhh specialist
            so that the specialist knows on fodder they grow both wheat and corn and rye
            1. Generalissimo
              Generalissimo 26 February 2016 11: 47
              0
              This is in Russia :-) in Russia, with its climate unimportant for agriculture, rye has long been and people eat. And a German horse after eating such a forage usually then needs a veterinarian, if he has time, of course.
  • el coyote
    el coyote 25 February 2016 12: 56
    -2
    It disturbs me when the artistic passages of contemporaries of different historical eras are presented as a projection of the realities of these very eras. This is not a scientific work, this is a newspaper article! Fiction is a presentation of private events, most often located at the extremes of society. You cannot pass off what is stated in them as a standard of behavior! In the Russian Empire, not always and not everywhere, everything was a blueprint for Dead Souls.
    The idea of ​​writing a jingoistic patriotic article is good in itself, but not everyone knows how patriotism differs from nationalism, and that differs from Nazism and, subsequently, from fascism. The more often we shout Russian, not Russian, the closer to our own "Right Sector" (the organization is banned on the territory of the Russian Federation)
    1. SG11
      SG11 25 February 2016 18: 46
      -1
      are you a creature without a clan without a tribe? most of them in the legal sector. or are you just from there?
    2. Who is
      25 February 2016 22: 55
      -1
      True internationalism is Orthodoxy.
      The rest is simulacra
  • xam0
    xam0 25 February 2016 13: 25
    +1
    It’s good that we have a real leader who knows what Russia needs and whom the people support in their mass. There will be confusion and vacillations, the country will disappear.
  • Capricorn
    Capricorn 25 February 2016 13: 55
    0
    A.S. wrote right into the topic. Pushkin. Well, just about the Russian character, which cannot live quietly, calmly. Drowning in a swamp of stagnation and running to the abyss, and then whatever happens! "There is rapture in battle, and a dark abyss at the edge, and in an enraged ocean amid stormy waves and formidable darkness, and in the Arabian hurricane, and in the breath of the plague. Everything. Everything that threatens death, for the heart of a mortal conceals inexplicable delights. Immortality, maybe a pledge? And happy is he who, amid the excitement, could experience and know! " AND? How do you like it?
  • hobot
    hobot 25 February 2016 15: 07
    +3
    And I didn’t let anyone into my house. Who cares how my ancestors lived.
    And under Sevastopol in different wars 5 grandfathers and my great-grandfathers remained.
  • dogens
    dogens 25 February 2016 18: 04
    0
    Quote: Boos
    The priests have one song, "God endured and ordered us ..." Sit down, endure and do not rock the boat against the power "given by God"!

    I think it is worthwhile to learn from them a little humility, and at least, instead of "priests", call them at least "clergy". This time. But, I now see a more distant quote. Biblical, when Christ, in order to reference him, was asked whether it is worth paying tribute to Caesar, if according to the teaching of Christ, God is the only King. And he answered in a neutral way, Caesarean Caesar, the God of God.
    The same thing seems to me with the clergy in Soviet times. Orthodoxy teaches that all hardships, persecutions, and difficulties are from God, and they must be endured. So they endured. And note that the average Russian person usually has similar patience. He endures everything, but endures everything on himself. In our area, in every ordinary citizen, the norm is if you don’t have any means at hand, he’s just not surprised from childhood that it will be difficult. Do not find the resemblance.
    Why am I doing this. I do not agitate, and I do not convert people to religion, and I myself am quite careful about it, I think that any religion has a right to exist if it teaches good things, but please do not forget that the Russian Orthodox Church is part of the formation of the Russian character and the Russian spirit. And as already said here, many of our great people, such as Suvorov, were representatives of the nobility and went to many accomplishments precisely for God, for the Tsar, for the Fatherland. It would be a little hypocritical to recognize Suvorov as a great man, and to deny his worldview and views. And it is worth distinguishing even so Orthodoxy and the "people" who serve in the church.

    As for the article itself, it is clear from the writing that the author is an Orthodox religious person. From there, and some small attacks on the first years of Soviet power. This is a very common thesis among believers. They say the Soviet system shot the priests, smashed and looted churches, so it is bad, but the tsar wore a cross, he was good. At the same time, again, the "priests" tolerated, the churches "tolerated", and those who now live "for" the Soviet regime did not tolerate anything like that, but they are most outraged. Paradox. And most likely it is associated with the beginning of the 90s, since the thesis "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" in relation to the Russian Federation-USSR-Russian Empire, was applicable and one of the most popular for 20 years. In addition, one of the components of this thesis is revival, "liberation" and the legitimization of the ROC as in the Russian Empire, which for the believers was one of the main reasons to get rid of the USSR. Therefore, some of the author's attacks on the USSR are quite natural in my opinion. We are all like that in one (white) or another (red) side, we were all deceived, lured, used and thrown. And that was in the 90s.
  • dogens
    dogens 25 February 2016 18: 20
    0
    Quote: aleksfill
    "... According to Hieromonk Damaskin, by 1939 there were 1277 churches left in Soviet Russia (out of 54 thousand). Only four ruling bishops were at large ... In pre-revolutionary Russia there were about thirty thousand monastics and more than 110 thousand white clergy, more than one hundred bishops ... "
    In front of my eyes for 2016, in the city of my residence, with a population of slightly more than 100 people,
    over the past 25 years, 4 religious buildings have been erected and two more - a cathedral and a mosque under construction,
    during this time not a single school, not a single kindergarten was built, but 6 schools, including
    the oldest, since the time of Nicholas the Bloody, closed due to their dilapidation.
    ministers of worship, barely able to fit into representative foreign cars, without disgust - it is impossible.


    Excuse me. I agree with you in many respects, but as I wrote above, the question is not at all about religion ("cult"), as you say, but about the fact that religion is used and "advertised" by someone for commercial and political purposes. Do not hait religion. Neither our Orthodoxy, nor Islam, nor Buddhism, nor Judaism. Everything has a right to be. Another problem is people 1). They are simply unscrupulous people who are preoccupied with their own interests and spoil the color of religious institutions. 2). These are Fanatics who cross the boundaries of all scriptures and teachings .... such radical fanaticism. and it turns out, according to my estimates, that all the problems are either from the indifferent, or from the maniacally fanatically enthusiastic.

    So, ordinary people and priests have nothing to do with it. And it’s not they who don’t give money for kindergartens, hospitals, roads. And they don’t saw the loot on the purchase of medicines to hospitals, they don’t increase the cost of kindergartens, they don’t get kickbacks on repairs in such sizes that repairs in schools have to be done once every half a year, because the materials purchased are on the bill up to the fig, but reality 5 kopecks.
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 40
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      I agree that it is not necessary to generalize people and religion. Each person, whether he is the Patriarch, or a simple lay person, will answer before the Lord for his sins. But the Church was given to us by the Lord. Having destroyed the Church, the whole flock will be destroyed.
      Ordinary priests, fathers, and set an example of life, having and raising dozens of abandoned children, building schools, shelters, hospitals.
      You see only a few caught on Mercedes. Russia is huge, and the vast majority of those serving in it are the vast majority
  • dogens
    dogens 25 February 2016 18: 37
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    The church did not support the overthrow. Give the documents. confirming your statement.
    The church canonized the royal family as holy martyrs, on whose blood a new Russia will be reborn


    Question to the Author, why have none of the Soviet soldiers who fought in the Second World War canonized? I have long had such a question. They also built a new Russia on their blood. Why weren’t they canonized Kutuzov, Suvorov and Nakhimov? I understand that they are not martyrs, and were not considered God's chosen ones, but this is some kind of separation from reality. For me, it is precisely such people who serve both the future and God. Therefore, the question of the fact that it was precisely on the blood of the imperial family that the new Russia was built I do not like. Children in this new Russia in 25 years have died not less than the Tsar had in his family.

    All rulers are bad, bosses are not good ... and you can harass both Lenin, Stalin, and Nikolai, Alexander and Peter for company to capture, dig on him, and more. But in everything you need to know the measure. Why elevate some to the framework of holiness, although others were no worse?
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 18: 43
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      Not true, canonized. Since the 90s, more than 10 thousand new martyrs have been canonized in the Russian Orthodox Church.

      From recent history - Zhenya Rodionov, a soldier, a warrior who did not bow his head in Chechen captivity in 90
  • dogens
    dogens 25 February 2016 18: 49
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    Not true, canonized. Since the 90s, more than 10 thousand new martyrs have been canonized in the Russian Orthodox Church.

    From recent history - Zhenya Rodionov, a soldier, a warrior who did not bow his head in Chechen captivity in 90


    I don’t even argue about the newest one. The fact that our military has not been forgotten, and the pilot who was shot down is also necessary, I am only for, such should be remembered. But, than the Soviet soldier who fought in the Second World War, differs from the martyr of the Tsar. I understand that I was not chosen by God, and maybe I hid the cross (or maybe I didn’t!), But why is it worse. Maybe the Soviet soldier is sometimes more worthy of canonization than the Tsar. But there are people "saints" in life. I do not understand why the history of Orthodox Russia since 988, the new Russia is built only on the blood of Tsar Nicholas. And not on the blood of Pokryshkin, or conditionally "Alexander Matrosov".
    1. Who is
      25 February 2016 19: 44
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      Do not confuse canonization in the Church and the memorial to the Unknown Soldier.
      According to the canons for canonization 5 conditions are needed. 1 - martyrdom for Faith