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Alexey Gudkov: "We must strive to get rid of templates"

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Alexei Gudkov, nicknamed "The Dark" is difficult to find in place - most of the year he tours with seminars around the country and not only. We tried to find out how Alexey came to such a life, where he started, what he teaches, and who he considers to be an example of a Russian style fighter.




We met in a cozy room of one of the Moscow district leisure centers, where knightly armor peacefully coexist with boxing bags, there is a table and tea for guests, while the incessant capital roars outside the window. We decided not to waste time and immediately get down to business - that is, drink tea. At this time, one of the students began to warm up with iron scrap.

- Alexey, it’s probably very cool to travel around the country with seminars, to do what you love, earning money from it.
- It took many years. All this came not immediately.

- How did you start your journey?
- Once I, like many, engaged in karate - it was still in 70-s. But gradually, it seemed to me and my friends that we would no longer learn anything new. Everywhere under different wrappers was the same. We crawled all of Moscow, but could not find anything for ourselves.
In addition, I was engaged in wushu - and, rare species. One of the teachers was from Tien Shan ... But all this was not that. This was the beginning of the 80s.

- Why not?
- A fighter should be able to walk away from three things: a stick, a knife, a chain. You have to be fluid. Be like mercury. Karate doesn't give you that. When I finally found one of my mentors, Tolya Troshin, and he began to chase me with a chain, I realized that hard blocks and karate elements do not help me not to be beaten ... Over time, I learned to work well against the chain and the knife ( however, there were small cuts at first, but that was okay).

- Who did Troshin study?
- It's interesting here too история. Anatoly at the end of 70-s prepared for the army, and decided to pump a little. Began to run in the morning. And he noticed that some old man was also running in the morning.

- How old?
- It is difficult to determine. For me, too, you can't say exactly how old I am - this is the effect of training. They drove to a plot, and there they warmed up. Tolya began to repeat the movements of this man, and gradually he began to teach Tolya. But when Tolya returned from the army, the mentor sent him to the SEN'E — he was apparently already tired of training — age, fatigue. Maybe they just didn’t want to waste time on Anatoly’s primary battle run-in. However, gave Anatolia enough. His basic training was, as it were, stretched in time and went along with karate and others ... and continued even after Anatoly passed through karate and kung-fu schools.

- What else, for example?
- For example, understanding that any defense should be shorter than the attack. I, withdrawing karate, considered myself very fast. But Anatoly withdrew all my punches and kicks with barely noticeable movements. He said: "You have such a long movement that I can always block it." If the defense is as long as the attack, it will not be effective, because the attacker has a time advantage and this benefit can be eliminated only by reducing the defense time.

- And generally, with age, movements become shorter.
- With experience, - Andrei, the teacher of the School and Comrade Alexey, enters into conversation.

- Experience usually comes with age ... This is only a genius of everything from the very beginning. By the way, who can be considered an ideal fighter?
- Kostyu Tszyu and Roy Jones can be considered a conditional example, - Alexey answers without hesitation.

- Why not?
- Their work, their mastery of combat is a vivid example of the use of the basics of Russian hand-to-hand combat in sports, no matter how paradoxical it may sound. Remember how they moved. Especially Roy Jones. And his hands were lowered, he did not hold them at the head. How free he was!

- Probably, it was because he had a game mood, and this set him apart from serious and therefore squeezed boxers. He was relaxed.
- Not! Many people confuse these concepts. Relaxed is like jelly. A person must be relaxed, but collected.

- And what should be the attitude of a fighter?
- This is exactly the game! You need to take everything as a game.
In battle, the need for turnover. For a mortal combat, you need a elemental state, when you are like fire or water - you act correctly, but you perceive everything detached. Berserkers were like this - these writers embellish that they fought in a rage. They were all very conscious in battle. Plasters and other trained people in the crowd used curved daggers like bebuts. Run and cut on the go, without looking back. This is a characteristic by which you can understand the master in front of you or not. If it stops after entering the enemy, or hitting it, then no. The real master always goes on moving, goes behind the opponent's back - to move on to the next one, and so on.

In the meantime, the assembled students begin to perform the “zhgonka” exercise, one of the “Russian-style” business cards. Then they work in pairs to feel the transfer of effort, to the feeling of the opponent. Occasionally, Andrei or Aleksey corrects them. And again tea ...
- It's hard to be a coach, - jokes Andrew, - eat and sleep.

- This is another problem, - says Alexey, - a person comes to practice, and if he sees that the master works with energy, he thinks that this is something spiritual. And then disappointed. But there was nothing spiritual there - just training. And one more thing: martial art does not exist. There is a combat craft needed to perform some tasks. And martial art is already some kind of delight, something superfluous. This is further, this is something that goes beyond the scope of the battle - this is already a philosophy and a passage to other worlds of knowledge!

Alexey continues his story:
- Tolya gave us conditional situations, and forced us to seek opposition. For example, he said: "So I will beat with a stick (above). Defend yourself!". You find a protection option. And he translates the movement and beats with a stick already from the side - "And then I am so!". Looking for a movement to protect yourself from both the first strike and the second. And he beats from the third side ... In my youth I was engaged in sambo - including with the famous coach Gloriosov. Karate was taught by the equally famous master Stepin. I also learned from one Grushnik, but this is a very closed person, and from Valery Butov, to whom I owe a lot.

Alexey demonstrates various strokes with a stick, easily changing trajectories:
- You need to be able to work not only from sweeping strokes, but also from such fencing, which is much more difficult. Yet these people - applied ones - are very closed. Until you ask, they will not tell you. But if you don't know, how can you ask? It takes a lot of time.

In general, it is necessary to get rid of samples in motion. What is usually called templates. I spent five years trying to get rid of karate samples. Hand-to-hand combat is built from bricks - borders (distances), displacements and other. How the word is composed of letters.

- By the way, what about combat training in intelligence now?
- Oh, I'll tell you a story. They called me once to a seminar in the *** th division - to train intelligence officers. I was delighted, I said: "So, we need sticks, knives, gloves!". I look, at the ensign a person becomes all the more sad. I ask what is the matter. He answers: "We now have a trial because of each fingal, a bunch of pieces of paper have to be written." How am I going to cook them? Immediately without bruises can not do? “It won't work,” he says.
They also refused to work with knives - they said that they would teach with rubber mock-ups. “Guys,” I say, “then I will teach you how to work with rubber mockups, and not with knives!”

- It's sad.
- Well, maybe it's only in that division. But there was half "contract". In general, the former, the Soviet system of preparation is not. And she goes into the past, unfortunately.

- Why not?
- Including due to secrecy. Last year, in Germany, one person saw a training simulator for working with a punch. He goggled and asked: "Where did you get it from?" We told that, they say ... one person from SMERSH was talking about her. He then says: “We prepared for the entrance to Korea for half a year and gave a non-disclosure subscription. And these simulators were brought to us every day and taken away. I’ve talked about this for the first time, because I saw them at you.”

An adult is standing next to my son ... goggling too: "Dad ... didn’t you tell me anything?" And he: "Well, I gave the subscription." Like this.

Pupils strike blows with his hand on the "paws" - the type of crack. Alexey demonstrates a sample of fine work - when you start to throw on it through the thigh, it dramatically increases the weight of your body. The cast somehow fails (although this is a conditional movement). What's the matter?

“I have lowered the Whirlpool,” Aleksey laughs. “The Whirlpool is a ball in the pelvic region.” As a joke, I call him a gyroscope or a vanka-vstanka. Now I just abruptly lowered the Whirlpool. And you could not quit me. I checked it, went to training to the fighters, normal, prepared. I say: "Now you can not leave me. And now you can only through time." So it turned out.

- Alexey, why, having passed through different, effective, tough schools, did you decide to study Lyubkami? What found here that which was not in other directions?
- By the middle of the 90s, I was already a full-fledged martial arts master with my school and students. Very well owned all parts of the martial art. But there was something that was not subject to me and came out somehow spontaneously, not controlled by me. Suddenly, unexpectedly, I began to feel a blow that I had not seen, and left this blow, not realizing how I was doing it, or suddenly it turned out to do something, and the enemy’s fist abruptly changed its trajectory and flew past the nose. I didn’t know what it was, how to approach it ... all the theories that came across to me and at least somehow explained it, broke about my practice, there was a creative dead end. And it ended for me very suddenly and quickly. One day, one of my students brought a video tape to me for training, I looked at the recording, on which some uncle suddenly and simply explained what I was doing. Since this all started.
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  1. Vladycat
    Vladycat 24 February 2016 08: 04 New
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    It is strange that the Dark One did not tell where Lyubki went from. There is such a person D.psih.nauk A.A.Shchevtsov (Ivanovo) who is engaged in folk arts and psychology, and it is precisely he who studies the soul \ (and whom they tried to attract for this to sectarianism). The old people handed over the loves to him. And so repeatedly visited the Dark at seminars. There really is something to learn. and people of different sexes, ages and level of training. A distinctive feature is the lack of techniques and various images of warfare. We are waiting for him in March in Us in Vladivostok.
  2. Saling
    Saling 24 February 2016 08: 08 New
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    Another article about the adept of secret knowledge SMERSH SPECIALIZATION. The author is not tired of posting all the nonsense?
    1. apostoll
      apostoll 24 February 2016 11: 18 New
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      Well you post something !!! Or can you write only on the keyboard?
      Go to a seminar, learn from life, maybe fresh air will do you good)))
      1. Saling
        Saling 24 February 2016 14: 47 New
        +3
        Life, unfortunately, is short to spend it on similar charlatans as the hero of the article. wink

        There is a great quote from another article by the same author:
        - What do you think about the possibility of engaging in hand-to-hand combat in our high-tech time?
        - About hand-to-hand fights, I don’t know. Most likely, a unit that has reached the handshake with the enemy in the current high-tech time should be worthy of the comment by A. Lavrov. wink
        1. Avtopilot
          Avtopilot 24 February 2016 15: 04 New
          +1
          therefore, the time has come for a sports column on topvar
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        3. Riv
          Riv 24 February 2016 18: 42 New
          +1
          Maybe Petrosyan? :)
  3. Riv
    Riv 24 February 2016 08: 27 New
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    At the beginning of the article is a good word: "touring". Nobody pulled the author by the language, he wrote it himself. Another dancer who invented his own style, but does not really know what it is.

    In fact, the "Russian style" was not invented yesterday and it is no less than a thousand years old. But any style: Russian, Japanese, Chinese, German - it relies on the mentality of people and in general on their life. You will not live according to the laws and customs of a thousand years ago. You just can't. And the Japanese will not be able to live according to the customs of the past millennium. Therefore, karate is constantly evolving. But while developing, it is based on a tradition that is much older than the very concept of "karate". Get away from her and they will say "kanka" about you, or they won't say anything at all.

    Likewise, with the Russian style, you don't have to invent anything. Our army schools are the Russian style. And bruises are not counted there (it was the author who chose the wrong special forces), and they can do a lot, and training is by no means on mock-ups. Actually, no one calls it style or martial art either. But if you remember Alexander Vasilievich ... "The Science of Winning" is more correct.
  4. xBoris
    xBoris 24 February 2016 08: 46 New
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    ..judging at the end of the article - there should be a continuation .. ??
    We wait..?
  5. nekot
    nekot 24 February 2016 09: 14 New
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    "They also refused to work with knives - they said to teach with rubber dummies." Guys, - I say, - then I will teach you to work with rubber dummies, and not with knives! "
    Can someone explain how to really teach how to work with a knife on a real knife without cutting a percentage of students? The layout is good because it makes it possible to work at full strength, but it is better not rubber, but wooden, so that it hurts and is dumb.
    1. Vladycat
      Vladycat 24 February 2016 10: 39 New
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      I can try. The thing is that when working with a model, a sense of security does not allow you to "move according to the present." In our culture, there are expressions "feel your bullet", or a certain dislike for body armor (and the point is not that they restrain movement) but the point is in the "sixth sense", but it sounds like fantasy. But for example, when a loaded weapon is pointed at you, a knife is pointed, then you have an inexpressible feeling (a spot of intention) from which you can drain. In addition, during staged (training) battles, a completely different physics, in which there is no normal interaction. Plus, when working with a model, there is an option that when you see a real knife, you can fall into a stupor. And about the cuts in training. This school is not for conscripts, but for mature people who are responsible for their actions.
      Thanks for the cons. I personally attended these classes and studied a lot of the direction "Lubkov". There is a very solid layer of psychology and purification of consciousness, which allows you to "subtly see" the battle. I have nothing to do with the article. The author did not reveal the topic, or did not finish something.
      1. nekot
        nekot 24 February 2016 11: 25 New
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        Thank! Nonetheless:
        Quote: Vladycat
        The thing is that when working with a model, a sense of security does not allow you to "really move".

        When working with a wooden model, for example, it will hurt and quite a sense of danger.
        Quote: Vladycat
        In addition, during staged (training) fights, a completely different physics, in which there is no normal interaction

        Quote: Vladycat
        And about cuts in training.

        What does normal interaction on real knives mean? Do not you think that with such an interaction, the matter cannot be limited to cuts, unless significant restrictions are placed on the affected areas and the options for blows / cuts, which again leads to the development of certain stupors?
      2. apostoll
        apostoll 24 February 2016 11: 25 New
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        Maybe he didn’t finish it, but he interested many who read it!
        let them begin their WAY at least from here.
      3. Glot
        Glot 24 February 2016 11: 52 New
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        In our culture, there are expressions "feel your bullet", or a certain dislike for body armor (and the point is not that they restrain movement) but the point is in the "sixth sense", but it sounds like fantasy. But for example, when a loaded weapon is pointed at you, a knife is pointed, then you have an inexpressible feeling (a spot of intention) from which you can drain.


        Dislike for body armor is precisely because they are mostly heavy, uncomfortable and useless. And no "sixth senses".
        As the saying goes: Do not be afraid of the bullet, because you will not hear your bullet ... smile
        You can't "drain" from a machine gun, and all these "spots of intent" are good only in books about "super special forces" or the like, which are now being printed a lot. And no metaphysics, namely continuous preparation brought to automatism, can save.

        In addition, during staged (training) fights, a completely different physics, in which there is no normal interaction.


        Production and training fights, in principle, things are different.
    2. apostoll
      apostoll 24 February 2016 11: 23 New
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      Yes, damn it, do not be stupid, dear. It is about training professional scouts, not sissies in gyms ...
      They do not practice techniques on mats, but they acquire the skill "by hump over stumps" !!!
      Would you like to look at the morning exercises of our "naval diversionists" so you would probably be crazy, how do they work without rubber imitators? HAHAHAH
      1. nekot
        nekot 24 February 2016 12: 04 New
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        Quote: apostoll
        Would you like to look at the morning exercises of our "naval diversionists" so you would probably be crazy, how do they work without rubber imitators?

        And what, they are cutting each other with knives?
    3. Riv
      Riv 24 February 2016 11: 39 New
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      And how did the ensign set up methods for taking possession of a machine gun? In the same way: the bayonet-knife adjoins - and in the barrel. He repelled the blow and took the machine gun - well done. I didn’t take it - it means you’re not suitable for the Red Army yet. We will still train.

      What is characteristic: no one was seriously injured. Bruises, slight scratches, a pair of broken knives. An assault rifle is a rather heavy thing, and if there are at least basic evasion skills, then it is not difficult to dodge a hit with an attached bayonet.
      1. nekot
        nekot 24 February 2016 12: 03 New
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        Quote: Riv
        And how did the ensign set up methods for taking possession of a machine gun?

        Arming and training are two different things. Have you had training fights at least on assault rifles with attached bayonets?
        1. Riv
          Riv 24 February 2016 13: 28 New
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          Of course. How else to get used to weapons? Only again: not with a machine gun against a machine gun, but unarmed against a machine gun. Otherwise, the weapons will not be disabled for long. The cover of the shutter frame will bend - you can’t straighten it with your finger. Fingers, by the way, are also a pity.

          And don't separate training from real combat. "Techniques are useless, in real combat everything is not so!" - a dull excuse for a botanist who doesn't want to train. A technique, worked out to automatism, cannot be useless and they work it out precisely so that it can be used in battle without hesitation. If you want: this is the approach that distinguishes the fighting style from home school.
          1. nekot
            nekot 24 February 2016 13: 41 New
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            Quote: Riv
            And don't separate training from real combat. "Techniques are useless, in real combat everything is not so!" - a dull excuse for a botanist who does not want to train.

            Has anyone talked about the futility of tricks ?? Only the use of techniques also needs to be developed, which, in general, you yourself have confirmed the first part of your post.
            Quote: Riv
            it is this approach that distinguishes the fighting style from the home school.

            For some reason, I thought that at any school there was an operating time of tricks)))
            Thanks for the answer about training fights.
            1. Riv
              Riv 24 February 2016 18: 35 New
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              We traditionally mix these two concepts. In India, China and Japan, style is precisely the approach to learning. For example, karate is, in their understanding, a style, or we can talk about the old Shaolin style, or about kendo in the general sense. And school is how the master interprets the style. For example, Oyama's karate school is Kyokushinkai-kan. Here "kan" is used in the meaning of "home, school". Judo is a school that has become a style primarily due to its sports orientation and, as a result, gave rise to two more styles. Are you aware of the French and Japanese styles of judo? They are completely different, although the ritual is of course the same. Judo schools are also numerous, but there are strict standards and rules for teaching. This prevents judo from disintegrating. The same attitude, oddly enough, to Zen (Chan).

              By the Russian style, by analogy, one should understand not specific schools teaching the founder’s gag, but the general style of training, especially the army. This style, by definition, is intended not only for unarmed people and certainly not for single people. Actually, in army training, an individual approach is in tenth place. This style is actually not one hundred years old and its most serious school is the school of A.V. Suvorov.

              And to mix several schools in order to get your own style is the same as to mix fish with cucumbers, eat, and then drink with milk. :)
  6. Skalpel
    Skalpel 24 February 2016 10: 00 New
    +4
    "Cheeromancy" of some kind, presented as another "fighting secret knowledge from the darkness of the ages." But - for everyone. But - for their money! :))))
  7. Glot
    Glot 24 February 2016 10: 00 New
    +3
    Everywhere under different wrappers was the same thing.


    That's right, and he also gathered everything he knew, wrapped it in a beautiful wrapper, added the Russian surroundings and ... began to earn.
    Well done.
  8. GUGA
    GUGA 24 February 2016 14: 22 New
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    I don’t understand - as soon as an article about Russian martial arts, they immediately fly up - clowns, charlatans, etc. From your words, dear Easterners, only in blessed China and Velikoin Japan did genuine martial arts appear and develop. ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, only in China and Japan. You are the clowns if you think so. BIs have been and are developing all over the world. If they are not shown on TV and there is no section in your community, then this does not mean that they are not. And in particular, Russian martial arts are some of the oldest and most diverse. The fact that enthusiasts are now trying to push them to the masses should only please.
    I am glad that the true masters of the East, and not stupid gibbons, respect the Russian style. Disrespectfully do not speak about him. But they spit in mud, only losers are couches, who suddenly decided that they knew the path of a warrior and can make their own judgments about what they do not know and do not understand.
  9. AleBors
    AleBors 24 February 2016 15: 49 New
    +1
    Another guru .. Touring and all that. Lyubki, pubes and other Slavic mountaineers. An advertisement for some swaggering athlete. It is not necessary to fit your author's way (I would not call it a style) into the "Russian style". And what is this style?
    Fate communicated with various masters of the Republic of Belarus, including those who still found the specialist prepared for work in SMERSH. None of them spoke of tradition and other esotericism. There is a task, there is a way to accomplish it in the shortest possible time, at the lowest cost. Everything else is an esoteric flair that is irrelevant.
  10. ASK505
    ASK505 24 February 2016 16: 38 New
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    It is strange that the article does not say a word about the school of hand-to-hand combat of Kadochnikov.
  11. SIT
    SIT 24 February 2016 20: 41 New
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    It’s impossible to get out of stabbing with specialists. If these are real sharp knives, then cuts alone will not be enough. Having correctly withdrawn from the line of attack, controlling the armed hand, with the simultaneous start of a counterattack at the last moment, it’s enough to skip the Vietnamese comma and that’s all - the tendons of the hand are cut, and maybe even the nerve. If this happens during training, then the next training will not be very soon. Even our narrow-eyed scumbag, who didn’t count white people at all, made us wind the aluminum wire round to round on the blade of his knife when the combat application was being practiced. In addition, if the system is positioned as a battle, and not for street self-defense, then we must reckon that the enemy is also special. This is not a self-propelled mannequin stabbing with a knife from below and stabbing with a knife from above. He will have 2 knives. They are fastened in a sheath on his hands in the wide sleeves of the M65 jacket. Underwater knives and plastic sheath, they serve as hand protection. The scabbard on the left hand is where the watch is from above, and on the right hand, vice versa from the bottom. Although some had the opposite. A person simply stands with his hands on his eggs and in mid-sentence suddenly throws both hands out and stabs with both knives simultaneously at the throat, while the blades act like scissors. If you didn’t hit, then the battle itself begins - a kick in the body or groin, and then again with knives. If you do this with sharp sharp knives at each training session, then it is unlikely that anyone will be able to reach the whole training session. Therefore, no one, when planning an operation, provides for the type of boldly rush to the enemy and destroy him in hand-to-hand combat. If planning was to hell or because of stupidity or gouging (we’re not setting up because we don’t even want to think about it) and during the day at least a couple of times it came to hand-to-hand combat, then in the evening only self-propelled sanitary losses. Moreover, they are not the majority of those who were in the morning. Most or already another world or severely injured.
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 24 February 2016 22: 46 New
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      You all, of course, said well - Special Forces soldier must be prepared for a duel with Special Forces (well, no matter what they call him). For this, you need to train every day for several hours and in general this is your profession. And what about a huge army of amateurs who also want to study martial arts, but cannot devote more than 3-4 hours a week to this, plus the general physical. training is not up to standard? And they should not be prepared to fight with the Green Beret, but with the usual drunk and stoned stupid, or two ....? What will be your recommendations in this case?
  12. Urri
    Urri 24 February 2016 23: 41 New
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    Quote: Saling
    Life, unfortunately, is short to spend it on similar charlatans as the hero of the article. wink

    There is a great quote from another article by the same author:
    - What do you think about the possibility of engaging in hand-to-hand combat in our high-tech time?
    - About hand-to-hand fights, I don’t know. Most likely, a unit that has reached the handshake with the enemy in the current high-tech time should be worthy of the comment by A. Lavrov. wink


    You would have told the soldiers of the Syrian special forces in DeZ a couple of weeks ago. When during the assault on DEZ by ISIS, the airfield really got to melee. And the video was online. With guns, grenades and shoulder blades in Aleppo, the Kurds are constantly operating in urban battles. But Lavrov only arranges a truce, he will not teach to fight
    1. Saling
      Saling 25 February 2016 07: 41 New
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      The use of pistols and grenades is called hand-to-hand combat? wink
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  13. Super Black
    Super Black 24 February 2016 23: 48 New
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    Quote: SlavaP
    And they should not be prepared to fight with the Green Beret, but with the usual drunk and stoned stupid, or two ....? What will be your recommendations in this case?

    My friend, the stoned do not attack people, they simply do not have the strength for this, they sit at home and devour big macs, smiling full of hair. And in dangerous situations, English folk BOXING works great, no clever tricks, schools, etc., a "deuce" to the head is enough to defeat the gopniks outright. However, I consider this technique very dangerous, and I am afraid to use it in clashes with drunks, so that people are not killed and not brought to justice because of the ghouls. Against classic drunks, it is better to use blows to the body, best of all with the left from below under the ribs, and you will not kill, and effectively (very painful). Practice classic sports, not heresy. Any boxing or any fight for self-defense (or attack) is more than enough! Obey the coach and do not skip class and in a couple of years the necessary skills will appear.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 25 February 2016 00: 12 New
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      - "Left, under the ribs"? This is just for the liver! smile
      - And given that the liver of this contingent is crushed by different excesses, it may break ...
      - Sweeps and knocks - ours! Moreover, they are unsteady on their feet ... They almost do not feel pain, but falling down a couple of times - they subside ... But this applies specifically to "classic drunks" Much more dangerous is the audience just starting the path to nirvana - they are not healthy yet drunk, they can do things ... Practice shows that you need to study the experience of orderlies from the "psychiatric hospital"!
  14. Super Black
    Super Black 25 February 2016 10: 37 New
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    Quote: saygon66
    - "Left, under the ribs"? This is just for the liver! smile
    - And given that the liver of this contingent is crushed by different excesses, it may break ...
    - Sweeps and knocks - ours! Moreover, they are unsteady on their feet ... They almost do not feel pain, but falling down a couple of times - they subside ... But this applies specifically to "classic drunks" Much more dangerous is the audience just starting the path to nirvana - they are not healthy yet drunk, they can do things ... Practice shows that you need to study the experience of orderlies from the "psychiatric hospital"!

    I agree with you completely, having sports or combat experience, it’s better not to hit at all (even in the liver, although it’s relatively safe, it won’t fall on the asphalt in the back of the head), but to knit like cops or orderlies from a psychiatric hospital.