Saudis are considering the possibility of supplying anti-aircraft missiles to Syrian opposition forces

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Riyadh is considering the possibility of supplying the Syrian opposition ground-to-air missiles, RIA News statement by the head of the foreign ministry of Saudi kingdom al-Jubeira.



“We think that the supply of ground-to-air missiles will change the balance of power in Syria. They will allow moderate opposition to shoot down helicopters and regime planes that are bombarded with chemical weapons and bomb them. The ground-to-air missiles will change the balance of power in the way it did several years ago in Afghanistan, ”
the minister told Spiegel magazine.

“But we must be very careful in this matter, because weapon should not fall into the wrong hands, ”he added.

Recall, Saudi Arabia is a member of the Western "anti-Igil coalition", led by the United States.
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  1. +24
    20 February 2016 11: 03
    But is this not a violation of the UN resolution on the prevention and non-proliferation of something there? Then what prevents us from delivering something very interesting to Syria?
    1. +100
      20 February 2016 11: 05
      Quote: Maksus
      Then what prevents us from delivering something very interesting to Syria?

      Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?
      1. +20
        20 February 2016 11: 06
        They play out. Their patrons will throw and they will remain one on one with all the crap they have done.
        1. +14
          20 February 2016 11: 22
          yes no buddy will not throw. if whose weapons are they going to deliver ??? so this statement is authorized by their owners and INTENDED FOR RUSSIA
          1. +15
            20 February 2016 11: 32
            In March, the king is going to come to Moscow to Putin, is phoning, talks about cooperation in Syria
            Yesterday, 12:40 19.02.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX Vladimir Putin and Salman Ben Abdel Aziz Al Saud during a telephone conversation agreed to increase Russian-Saudi cooperation, including in the direction of resolving the crisis in Syria.
            RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/syria_peace/20160219/1377171339.html#ixzz40h91WTQy
            And then - on your knife in the back! In my opinion this is their usual practice!
            1. +19
              20 February 2016 11: 37
              Quote: Baikonur
              And then - on your knife in the back! In my opinion this is their usual practice!

              This is not a knife in the back, but a hint that we will become more accommodating when we meet. But not the one attacked! As if for the bazaar did not have to answer! Putin can’t stand the pressure.
              1. +3
                20 February 2016 11: 59
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                Putin can’t stand the pressure.

                Will something Saudi drown again in Yemen?
                1. +8
                  20 February 2016 13: 31
                  The statement by the Foreign Minister of the Saudi Kingdom al-Jubeyr is executed in the spirit of Goebel propaganda as an accomplice in Turkey’s aggression against Syria with the aim of deceiving the international community. Namely,
                  “We think that the supply of surface-to-air missiles will change the balance of power in Syria. They will allow the moderate opposition to shoot down helicopters and planes of the regime, which fire with CHEMICALS and bomb them ... "

                  As you know, there is NO KHIMORUZHIA at the Syrian government troops - it was liquidated at the Syrian government troops under the supervision of international organizations.
                  Moreover, making such statements to the Saudis, acting in alliance with the United States, is somehow profanely short-sighted. Because
                  1. The United States not only believes that the terrorist group "IS" used chemical weapons during the fighting in Syria and Iraq. This was stated by the official representative of the US State Department Mark Toner.
                  2. US CIA Director John Brennan also said: "We know of cases where IS used ammunition filled with toxic substances during hostilities," - specifying that these were ARTILLERY shells. Brennan explained that, according to American intelligence, IS militants "have access to the elements used to create chemical weapons."
                  Moreover, the
                  and the Russian Foreign Ministry ... stated that "according to the Russian side, there are a lot of such facts." "In particular, such cases were noted on February 15, 2015 in the city of Daraya (Damascus province) and on August 21, 2015 in the city of Marea (Aleppo province)"
                  Then the question arises. And where does the IG have access to elements for creating chemical weapons? Does Turkey not shift its blame to Syria, as they say, from a sick mind to a healthy one?
                  Answer. Shifts! Since we are talking about IS fighters in the Aleppo region, and it is from there that the IS fighters have a connecting corridor to Turkey and Turkey itself is in great need of this in connection with the IS fighters.
                  Therefore, it’s not necessary for the Saudis to block Turkey and play along with it in its aggression against Syria and against the Kurds!
                  It is clear that the SA also has its own commercial interest in the war in Syria according to the principle: "For some, war is a disaster, but for others, their mother is native!"

                  More on TASS:
                  http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2676981
            2. +1
              20 February 2016 11: 44
              Quote: Baikonur
              And then - on your knife in the back! In my opinion this is their usual practice!

              Well, probably then it’s not worth standing by such people a booty?
              1. +2
                20 February 2016 13: 42
                People generally don’t need to turn to booty.
                This is not polite.
                But above it was about the back, and not about the ass.
                Do not confuse laughing
          2. +3
            20 February 2016 11: 35
            Here are the stsuki ... From all sides they are trying to drag Russia into the war ...
            1. -21
              20 February 2016 11: 45
              Quote: 44World
              Here are the stsuki ... From all sides they are trying to drag Russia into the war ...

              But Russia rests so, rests so ...
              1. +3
                20 February 2016 16: 27
                And Russia is so obstinate, so obstinate ... "- Whose are you, Cossack?
            2. 0
              20 February 2016 13: 54
              So there are cases when our delivered weapons can turn against us. Neither the Saudis, nor Iran, nor anyone else can be armed with modern weapons.
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          4. 0
            21 February 2016 02: 51
            Quote: raketnik
            whose weapons are they going to deliver?



            The question is legitimate. We have already passed this in Afghanistan, when the Americans through third hands supplied the spirits with all kinds of weapons and at the same time built perplexed square eyes. History repeats itself, only "third hands" have changed. Yes
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        3. +3
          20 February 2016 11: 42
          Quote: maxiban
          They finish


          They play out and they and their Western friends to the point that Passenger Boeing and Airbuses Western will begin to fall from these "moderate friends" Yes . And it is quite possible that they will be blown up. Therefore, they are afraid of minke whale ....
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      3. +10
        20 February 2016 11: 07
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?


        with a nuclear warhead or chemical weapons, since the moderate use it.
        1. +3
          20 February 2016 11: 20
          Quote: Max_Bauder
          with a nuclear warhead or chemical weapons

          moreover, according to the statements of the Saudis, it already takes place)))
          that chemical weapons and bomb them.

          That is, Assad did not utilize and "continues" to use chemical weapons. here is the hypocritical donkey lover.
      4. +8
        20 February 2016 11: 12
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Quote: Maksus
        Then what prevents us from delivering something very interesting to Syria?

        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?

        Then, what prevents us from supplying "something very interesting" to Saudi Arabia? Directly to the Royal Palace of Al Saud. And how this "interesting" will be called "Caliber" or something else - it will no longer matter.
        1. +16
          20 February 2016 11: 43
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Then, what prevents us from supplying "something very interesting" to Saudi Arabia? Directly to the Royal Palace of Al Saud. And how this interesting will be called "Caliber" or something else - it will no longer matter.


          Andrew! hi
          I believe that for Saudi Arabia our most painful response to the supply of weapons to the Syrian Basmachi will be the selection of a couple of hundred of the most intelligent Yemeni collective farmers, sending them to 1,5-month "courses of red commanders" and returning back. Let them bring to the masses the rules of modern combat in hot climates.
          1. +1
            20 February 2016 13: 02
            Hello !!! The problem is that ours just can’t allow it. So what is offered here is impossible. We have already made so many mistakes by refusing. to collaborate with public organizations. Only with legitimate authorities. We can help the Kurds in Syria only through Assad there is no other way.
          2. +5
            20 February 2016 14: 13
            selection of a couple of hundreds of the most intelligent Yemeni collective farmers, sending them to 1,5-month "courses of red commanders" and returning back. Let them bring to the masses the rules of modern combat in hot climates.

            Nuuu ... Russia is a generous soul! How can you let guests go without souvenirs ?! At the same time, you can also learn how to properly exploit souvenirs smile
        2. 0
          20 February 2016 12: 21
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Then, what prevents us from supplying "something very interesting" to Saudi Arabia?

          -------------------------
          Yemenite Hussites are waiting for something interesting for sure ... An effective and simple weapon ...
      5. +1
        20 February 2016 11: 17
        Our Caliber will be missed and accidentally fly into the window of some sheikh, and ours will say: program failure.
        1. +6
          20 February 2016 12: 01
          Quote: vodolaz
          program crash.

          I do not believe. This is the result of the impact of Saudi EW funds.
        2. +1
          20 February 2016 12: 25
          program crash.
          "Collateral Losses".
      6. PKK
        +2
        20 February 2016 11: 18
        From the first day of the bombing, the Saudis sleep and see how to transfer the anti-aircraft guns to the IGilovites, but it wasn’t there. Europe is waiting for the end of the war to send the refugees home. Yes, and the response from Russia will arrive unambiguously. Therefore, the Saudis are yuzat in the frying pan naked. missiles will be sent to the impudent, if through Turkey, it will generally begin. Mom do not worry.
      7. +3
        20 February 2016 11: 18
        Misha Honest
        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?

        ... A. MEASURES were not allowed! And for ..WELL VERY MODERATE OPPOSITION - ALLOWED!
        Here is just one question - WILL IT BE SUCCESSFUL TO COME TO THE CAMPS OF PREPARATION OF AN ARCHITECTURES this weapon ??? Our VKS intelligence system is getting better and better ...
      8. 0
        20 February 2016 11: 41
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?

        Yes, they have everything ... even the Scuds ..
      9. +1
        20 February 2016 12: 10
        in Yemen, it is constructive, and more
      10. Tor5
        0
        20 February 2016 12: 37
        Well, let's see who it is and what they are going to supply. For every ..., there is ... with a screw.
      11. +1
        20 February 2016 13: 14
        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?

        about Yemen ...
        UN PROHIBITION applies to CONFLICT ZONES, but ...
        Iran is a peaceful country, defensive weapons can be supplied, and it’s their (Iranians) business where to support fellow believers .. in Yemen or Saudi Arabia, where Ayatollah Nimru al-Nimru was chopped off their heads.
        On the little things, Russia is still not worth it to waste, you need to be slightly "above the fight", as befits a great and strong power, and not a camel king.
      12. +1
        20 February 2016 13: 52
        And even better to Iran, also something interesting .. then the Saudis creep on the fifth point!
      13. +3
        20 February 2016 14: 28
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?


        S. Lavrov: “We think that the supply of surface-to-air missiles, ATGMs, MLRS, OBYUT T-72, field artillery, and UAVs will change the alignment of forces in Yemen. They will allow the Yemenis to shoot down helicopters and aggressor aircraft that fire and bomb them. ATGMs will make them useless. Saud's M1A2 Abrams, field artillery, MLRS, UAVs will allow the Saudi aggressors to oust from the occupied territory and free the oppressed Saudi people from the feudal regime.Russian weapons will change the balance of power as it happened several decades ago in Vietnam, China, Cuba, Nicaragua, Angola and so on."

        I can’t resist, I’ll insert the video for the THIRD time (I really like it) drinks
      14. +1
        20 February 2016 15: 32
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Then what prevents us from putting "something very interesting" in Yemen?

        The Saudis add something to the hookah and are not quite on friendly terms with objective reality. After such deliveries (if this is not a bluff) the princes of Saudi Arabia can "suddenly" find right in their apartments, just as suddenly appeared in Yemen "Caliber" ...
    2. +6
      20 February 2016 11: 05
      The stupid obstinacy of stupid rulers usually ends with lyuli for any innocent people! am
      1. +8
        20 February 2016 11: 23
        Quote: Major Yurik
        ends with cots for an innocent people!

        The whole problem is that these talking-hands-leading heads come out of the same people. And as you know from the change of terms the sum of the numbers is unchanged. Have a good movie, One among strangers, one among strangers. it says it well on this topic. About the buoy. This is the brother of Marxism, and you can’t get anywhere from him.
    3. +6
      20 February 2016 11: 06
      Doesn't this minister want a caliber on the head? am
    4. +6
      20 February 2016 11: 08
      Saudis are considering the possibility of supplying anti-aircraft missiles to Syrian opposition forces

      And for one thing, let them consider the possibility of the arrival of "unknown cruise missiles" to their airfields! bully
      1. -11
        20 February 2016 11: 14
        Quote: GSH-18
        And for one thing, let them consider the possibility of the arrival of "unknown cruise missiles" to their airfields!

        At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit. request

        The fact that the militias in Syria will acquire air defense systems in the military is not at all a question. I won’t be surprised if green people and vacationers from neighboring countries appear in Syria. In Syria, everything is just beginning.
        1. +18
          20 February 2016 11: 18
          Quote: professor
          The fact that the militias in Syria will acquire air defense systems in the military is not at all a question.

          Dear professor, why drink such a strong tea leaves from fly agaric in the morning ?? Just would have smoked, as usual .. lol
          1. -7
            20 February 2016 11: 28
            Quote: GSH-18
            Dear professor, why drink such a strong tea leaves from fly agaric in the morning ?? Just would have smoked, as usual ..

            Quote: GSH-18
            Dear professor, why drink such a strong tea leaves from fly agaric in the morning ?? Just would have smoked, as usual ..

            This is usually glue Moment. Nevertheless, Hezbollah has already acquired an air defense system and nothing will prevent the Syrian militias from acquiring an air defense system. Those that have already fallen into their hands do not seem to be "completed". So in spite of my glue Moment SAM they will have. And I personally have no joy from this.



            Quote: atalef
            How is it - South wind and halal Voentorg.

            Of course. We have already seen enough of the wonders of TOU. And the green men will be very soon. sad
            1. +5
              20 February 2016 11: 35
              Quote: professor
              So in spite of my glue they will have a moment of air defense systems. And to me personally, this is no joy.

              They will have air defense systems if they are delivered to them. But if they put it, then not only you, but the Americans will be against it. Their aircraft are flying there too. And these zrk or pzrk, they will be declared a real hunt from all sides. And the supplier will become reptile number 1.
              These are the conclusions.
              1. +6
                20 February 2016 12: 41
                Quote: GSH-18
                They will have air defense systems if they are delivered to them.

                There is no doubt that they will buy air defense systems at the military. There would be money, but there is money. The same China will sell without asking permission from you, nor from us, nor from the USA. Maybe Turkey is warmed up.

                Quote: GSH-18
                Their aircraft are flying there too.

                It may happen that these complexes will have "friend or foe" systems for a certain state affiliation.

                Quote: GSH-18
                And the supplier will become reptile number 1.

                Voentorg does not know morality.

                Quote: Sirocco
                When everything happens, God forbid, in a serious way, then you pan, there will be no time for laughter and joy, that's for sure. Israel can wash away the wave of Islamists in the Mediterranean sea, for this it is only necessary to competently direct the "bad power of ISIS" in the right direction, so you shouldn't be making fun here.

                You are like little children. In your opinion, the "wave of Islamists" is not constantly trying to wash Mediterranean Israel into the sea?

                There are terrorist organizations more dangerous ISIS. They must be feared first.
                Quote: Sirocco
                Can this KUB work for you too?

                Can not. We in Syria do not patch.
                Quote: Aleksander
                It was MANPADS that were used in Afghanistan, and the SA is talking about them.

                Militiamen have MANPADS and so on. I think it is about the air defense system.

                Quote: Aleksander
                And Western Syria fly in Syria. By the way, Ben-Gurion is also nearby.

                1. Boeing for MANPADS target is almost unrealistic.
                2. Do you think that there are no MANPADS in terrorists in Judea and Samaria?

                Quote: Aleksander
                So there it is!

                Not yet. Information was received about 12 jeeps with green men who arrived from Turkey, but of course no one provided evidence.

                Quote: Sirocco
                You are a professor, living not far off, despite the friendly relations between Israel and Russia, you can get a spark, so let's see how much iron Faberge you have.

                You made me laugh. In your opinion, the spark did not fly because Russia so wanted?

                Quote: Spade
                No spark will fly to them. With any development of the situation in Syria, Israel will face enormous problems. For the Iranians and Assad are now supplying weapons and training Hezbollah, the "anti-terrorist coalition" - the Muslim Brotherhood, which means Hamas ...

                Fun will be unique.

                You are only right that it will be fun. Hezbollah has been sitting quietly for 10 years and is only bowing from the bunker. 2006 was enough for them. Egypt will iron Hamas and Gaza at full height and Iranian weapons almost never get there. So the war will be in the near future, but not with Hezbollah, but with Hamas in Gaza. And this has nothing to do with Syria or ISIS.
                1. +6
                  20 February 2016 12: 55
                  Quote: professor
                  Hezbollah has been sitting quietly for 10 years and is only bowing from the bunker. 2006 was enough for them

                  Are you inventing a professor again?
                  Hezbollah strike on an Israeli convoy.
                  Two soldiers died and four were injured this morning as a result of an Hezbollah attack on an Israeli army convoy near the Lebanese border in the area of ​​Shebaa Farms.
                  28-01-2015
                2. +1
                  20 February 2016 13: 06
                  Quote: professor
                  In your opinion in Judea and Samaria there are no MANPADS from terrorists?

                  Well, if by terrorists you mean the Israeli army, then it definitely has MANPADS, and if the Palestinian partisans then it is very doubtful whether they have MANPADS.
            2. +7
              20 February 2016 11: 39
              Quote: professor
              And to me personally, this is no joy.

              When everything happens, God forbid, in a serious way, then you pan, there will be no time for laughter and joy, that's for sure. Israel can wash the wave of Islamists into the Mediterranean sea, for this it is only necessary to competently direct the "bad power of ISIS" in the right direction, so you shouldn't be joking here. As I said in the post earlier, who knows what can come to you. Can this CUBE work for you? From prison and scrip you would not have denied with your colleague.
            3. +5
              20 February 2016 11: 53
              Quote: professor
              Hezbollah has already acquired SAM

              It would be nice if this was the case and Hezbollah had air defense systems, but for now it is only at the level of rumors. It does not hinder to acquire SAMs and fighters against the Israeli regime of Hamas guerrillas for the defense of Gaza and its civilian population, which is constantly being destroyed by the Israeli Air Force.
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            5. 0
              20 February 2016 12: 15
              Quote: professor
              nothing will stop Syrian militias from acquiring air defense systems

              It was used in Afghanistan ПSAM, about them and SA says. And for these missiles, there are much more accessible goodies-fats (western Boigny, etc.) than the VKS, in the same Europe (ISIS is an international organization and does not focus only on Syria). And Western Syria fly in Syria. By the way, Ben-Gurion is also nearby.
              Quote: professor
              And the green men will be very soon

              So it is! As many as 4 people were prepared for $ 500 million, remember, I suppose? Although, of course, the West has also caught up with the ideological trash from all over the world, so it has long been. They have a rotation of constantly-serving "militias" in Cologne and Paris go-to touch the plump-tough little-shivering ........
            6. 0
              20 February 2016 20: 07
              Quote: professor
              and nothing will stop the Syrian militias from acquiring an air defense system.

              Who do you call militias? Those who are against Assad, or those who are against Assad?
              Hint, someone you yourself call baboons, and type against them.
              1. 0
                20 February 2016 20: 08
                Quote: Manul
                Who do you call militias? Those who are against Assad, or those who are against Assad?

                Those whom your Foreign Ministry is.
                1. 0
                  21 February 2016 08: 56
                  Quote: professor
                  Those whom your Foreign Ministry is.

                  So these are against the broads like? Why do they need an air defense system? Then to attack you? You can explain, professor, who do you call militias? Ethnic, religious or other group, and how can it threaten the Air Force of the State of Israel?
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2016 09: 07
                    Quote: Manul
                    So these are against the broads like?

                    Like? They are against Assad, and Assad has aviation.

                    Quote: Manul
                    You can explain, professor, who do you call militias?

                    Those men who took up arms to defend their home, those whom your Lavrov calls "patriotic opposition" and "conducts consultations with them."

                    Quote: Manul
                    Ethnic, religious or other group, and how can it threaten the Air Force of the State of Israel?

                    From Syria so far nothing. This is not our war, and we do not fly there.
                    1. 0
                      21 February 2016 10: 40
                      Quote: professor
                      Those men who took up arms to defend their home, those whom your Lavrov calls "patriotic opposition" and "conducts consultations with them."

                      That is, those whom we call moderate opposition. I see. That is, not Isil, but those who are against Assad. Well, at the same time it turns out with Isil - they defend one idea that the enemy of their country is Assad! But did Assad destroy their homes and start a war? But what about a bunch of terrorist groups? Why did so many find themselves in Syria? Bashar is to blame? Protects only his chair, you say?
                      You can not answer, I understood your position. Thank you for your answer, your meticulousness in this matter is amazing.
                      1. 0
                        21 February 2016 10: 46
                        Quote: Manul
                        That is, those whom we call moderate opposition.

                        No. So the Americans call them.

                        Quote: Manul
                        I see. That is, not Isil, but those who are against Assad.

                        ISIS is terrorists.

                        Quote: Manul
                        But did Assad destroy their homes and start a war?

                        No, not Assad. He sits in a bunker. Their homes were destroyed by the "valiant" Assad army with their artillery, cluster bombing, vacuum and barrel bombs.

                        Quote: Manul
                        But what about a bunch of terrorist groups? Why did so many find themselves in Syria? Bashar is to blame? Protects only his chair, you say?

                        His chair and his tribe. He would go to reform and there would be no such slaughter as Syria. Over in Tunisia and in Egypt, everything is calm.

                        Quote: Manul
                        You can not answer, I understood your position. Thank you for your answer, your meticulousness in this matter is amazing.

                        hi
                      2. 0
                        23 February 2016 03: 58
                        Quote: professor
                        His chair and his tribe.

                        This is his tribe, and he takes care of him.
                      3. +1
                        23 February 2016 07: 24
                        Quote: Manul
                        This is his tribe, and he takes care of him.

                        It is commendable, however, the president of the country must take care of all the citizens of the country, and not just one of the smallest tribes.
            7. 0
              20 February 2016 20: 23
              Quote: professor
              We have already seen enough of the wonders of TOU

              TOU "starlings" have been shit the other day ...
              http://rusvesna.su/news/1455751463
        2. -6
          20 February 2016 11: 20
          Quote: professor
          Quote: GSH-18
          And for one thing, let them consider the possibility of the arrival of "unknown cruise missiles" to their airfields!

          At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit. request

          The fact that the militias in Syria will acquire air defense systems in the military is not at all a question. I won’t be surprised if green people and vacationers from neighboring countries appear in Syria. In Syria, everything is just beginning.

          How is it - South wind and halal Voentorg.
          1. +6
            20 February 2016 11: 27
            Quote: atalef
            At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit. request

            American aviation will not suffer, the word Stirlitz bully
            1. +4
              20 February 2016 12: 17
              Quote: GSH-18
              American aviation will not suffer, the word Stirlitz

              "The Pentagon is withdrawing from Syria the B-1 Lancer strategic bombers, which are the main striking force of the American Air Force Group." They take away from sin, bearded their own - they don’t take apart a stranger.
            2. +1
              20 February 2016 12: 24
              Quote: GSH-18
              Quote: atalef
              At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit. request

              American aviation will not suffer, the word Stirlitz bully

              actually this is not my comment
          2. +7
            20 February 2016 11: 39
            Quote: atalef
            How is it - South wind and halal Voentorg.

            Well, why do you bother yourself like that - these comrades do not need to conceal something - they quite openly operate in the territory of neighbors and supply weapons to internationally recognized terrorists, and no one will condemn them and will not impose sanctions - they are democracies))))
          3. +2
            20 February 2016 15: 41
            They’ve been fighting there for the fifth year, fortunately for everyone, including Israel, now these notorious little men are not sickly catching the Syrian-Russian lyuli.
        3. +5
          20 February 2016 11: 25
          Quote: professor
          The fact that the militias in Syria will acquire air defense systems in the military is not at all a question.

          That's it!
          And they will very quickly appear in service with the branch of the moderate Muslim Brotherhood in the Gaza Strip. Hamas is called.
          1. +1
            20 February 2016 13: 04
            Quote: Spade
            That's it!
            And they will very quickly appear in service with the branch of the moderate Muslim Brotherhood in the Gaza Strip. Hamas is called.

            Hamas already possesses MANPADS and any operation in Gaza is considered both with an adversary possessing air defense, both SAM and receiver.
        4. +8
          20 February 2016 11: 28
          Quote: professor
          In Syria, everything is just beginning.

          You are a professor, living not far off, despite the friendly relations between Israel and Russia, you can get a spark, so let's look at how much iron Faberge you have. A spark may not reach you, for one reason, if you are collaborating with this Gop Stop team. )))) How do you like this situation?)))
          1. +6
            20 February 2016 11: 36
            No spark will fly to them. With any development of the situation in Syria, Israel will face enormous problems. For the Iranians and Assad are now supplying weapons and training Hezbollah, the "anti-terrorist coalition" - the Muslim Brotherhood, which means Hamas ...

            Fun will be unique.
            1. +1
              20 February 2016 12: 07
              Iranians and Assad now saturate with weapons and teach Hezbollah
              You are missing one moment, this is not 2006, and if Hezbollah stutters, no Keri Laila will ask "please be careful", but will ask, so it is not a sin to send. We will fall on them with all our weight, not like in 2006, by a separate contingent. Have they been trained before? Not funded? Or have you not yet learned a lesson from your education and funding for the Arab countries?
              so let's look at how much iron Faberge you have
              Then we’ll talk about Faberge, and about fans to see them. Not seen enough in 67 73 82 2006? There are such people. By the way, will you tell us how many soldiers Iran is helping in Syria today?
              1. +6
                20 February 2016 13: 15
                Quote: tilix
                Then we’ll talk about Faberge, and about fans to see them. Not seen enough in 67 73 82 2006? There are such people. By the way, will you tell us how many soldiers Iran is helping in Syria today?

                You do not tell by chance when the Israeli army fought against equal strength opponents ???? Oh, I don’t remember something laughing It's one thing to drive barefoot boobies who run in shales and with Kalash, rockets are boiled from pipes. And another thing is against an equal in strength and spirit of the enemy. Well, if you were to face ISIS, I think that nevertheless these zealans were more organized, and in the event of a protracted conflict, the alignment would be different, not 7,40 days laughing
                Quote: tilix
                Or have you not yet learned a lesson from your training and funding for the Arab countries?

                Read on this topic above in the same post. Barefoot, and not motivated. And when they landed at the controls, and the Li-si-qing control panel, then the parade processions ended. Or do you want to clash with the army of the Russian Federation? God forbid, of course, although there were your instructors in Georgia, whom nothing serves as a lesson.
                Then, what is Israel and the Israelis, 1/3 of the former Soviet? Who updated the blood? After all, you and the Palestinians are one nation, if the Bible does not lie. So what you have now is thanks to the USSR. Both the population and the industry created by people from the scoop. Tyuyuyuyu, sho I wrote? So are we relatives then? laughing And what to do with such relatives who do not remember kinship? So to say they ate and drank from the same cup, and now they are crap on the same plate. request
                1. -1
                  20 February 2016 13: 27
                  Quote: Sirocco
                  You do not tell by chance when the Israeli army fought against equal strength opponents ???? Oh, I don’t remember something

                  You're right. There were no equal ones — they were either much stronger (and more than once) or weaker. For example, 1948, 67, 73, 82 and the 2000s.

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  It's one thing to drive barefoot boobies who run in shales and with Kalash, rockets are boiled from pipes.

                  Are you talking about majahs in Afghanistan?

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  And another thing is against an equal in strength and spirit of the enemy.

                  For example, the Arab Legion. And where is he now?

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  Well, if you were to face ISIS, I think that nevertheless these zealans were more organized, and in the event of a protracted conflict, the alignment would be different, not 7,40 days

                  Guess from 3 times why the Ishilians do not rod en masse to Israel?

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  when they sat down at the controls, and Li-si-qing’s control panel, then the parade processions ended.

                  In Egypt there were more than 10 Li-si-qing. So what? Some of them returned home in drawers.

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  Or do you want to clash with the army of the Russian Federation?

                  What for?

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  After all, you and the Palestinians are one nation, if the Bible does not lie.

                  Biblical Palestinians have sunk into oblivion, and the current Arabs have nothing to do with them. By the way, do you know how Arabic Palestine is? wink

                  Quote: Sirocco
                  So what you have now is thanks to the USSR. Both the population and the industry created by people from the scoop.

                  Right Prior to the beginning of the big aliyah in 1991, Israel had neither its own tank, nor its own aircraft, nor its satellite, nor electronic industry. There was nothing. Only camels. wink
                  1. +7
                    20 February 2016 13: 46
                    Quote: professor
                    Are you talking about majahs in Afghanistan?

                    You would have these Mujahideen, with their base, and instructors, then they would talk. Although there were enough in flip flops.
                    Quote: professor
                    For example, the Arab Legion. And where is he now?

                    And where is he, more detailed? And by whom it was created.))))
                    Quote: professor
                    In Egypt there were more than 10 Li-si-qing. So what? Some of them returned home in drawers.
                    You do not understand this, the motherland ordered, the officer took under his visor.
                    And how much did they pack up defectors and traitors like you, looking for warmer places? laughing

                    Quote: professor
                    What for?

                    Judging by your pressure, and attempts to teach us the foolish mind, we want to ask you the same question in Hebrew question, Why do you need to crap in the well? request
                    Quote: professor
                    Biblical Palestinians have sunk into oblivion, and the current Arabs have nothing to do with them. By the way, do you know how Arabic Palestine is?

                    That you shoooo, so maybe the Jews where you were not there right now belay (The topic is separate, and very interesting, Sodom and Gomoru will not be found in the Mediterranean, it seems to me that Mohenjodaro with two remnants of cities is more suitable for biblical writings, this is to say that there were no Jews in the Mediterranean, that is, there were never Gypsies wink ) And what about Palestine in Arabic?
                    Quote: professor
                    Right Prior to the beginning of the big aliyah in 1991, Israel had neither its own tank, nor its own aircraft, nor its satellite, nor electronic industry. There was nothing. Only camels.

                    There was everything, exactly as much as they gave you, the sponsors of your state, which was not wassat
                    1. 0
                      20 February 2016 13: 57
                      Quote: Sirocco
                      You would have these Mujahideen, with their base, and instructors, then they would talk. Although there were enough in flip flops.

                      We have enough of ours with billions of budgets, Cornets and other gadgets and instructors from the KGB of the USSR.

                      Quote: Sirocco
                      And where is he, more detailed? And by whom it was created.))))

                      Arab Legion


                      Quote: Sirocco
                      You do not understand this, the motherland ordered, the officer took under his visor.
                      And how much did they pack up defectors and traitors like you, looking for warmer places?

                      Of course. How do we understand. After all, we are fighting here for money. How much contest do you have in combat units? And in the flight? Exactly.

                      So in Egypt there were more than 10 Li-siqing?

                      Quote: Sirocco
                      Judging by your pressure, and attempts to teach us the foolish mind, we want to ask you the same question in Hebrew question, Why do you need to crap in the well?

                      Well? In our security, we are not dependent on Russia, but we are not going to fight with Russia. We are not going to fight with anyone at all.

                      Quote: Sirocco
                      That you shoooo, so maybe the Jews where you were not there right now

                      So what's in the Bible about Palestine? AND? wink

                      Quote: Sirocco
                      There was everything, exactly as much as they gave you, the sponsors of your state, which was not

                      Who exactly gave and what gave? What kind of "industry created by people from the scoop"?
                      What exactly do we "have now, is it thanks to the USSR Union"?
                      Examples in the studio.
                      1. +3
                        20 February 2016 14: 08
                        Quote: professor
                        Who exactly gave and what gave? What kind of "industry created by people from the scoop"?
                        What exactly do we "have now, is it thanks to the USSR Union"?
                        Examples in the studio.

                        Quote: professor
                        So what's in the Bible about Palestine? AND?
                        What’s what, you and your relatives, both we and the Ukrainians and Belarusians, that is, the same blood, as you repainted. lol
                        Oh Professor, stop saying this, do not fool your head with your own tales about the Phoenix reborn from nothing. laughing
                        PS
                        If it's not a secret, how many planes did you, or your dad, shoot down in the Arab-Israeli conflict? Do not be shy, tell the truth. smile
                      2. 0
                        20 February 2016 14: 12
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        Oh Professor, stop saying this, do not fool your head with your own tales about the Phoenix reborn from nothing.

                        You are fooling your head. You don’t even know what the Arab Legion is, but there you are. BV expert. Learn the materiel. hi
                      3. +3
                        20 February 2016 14: 28
                        Quote: professor
                        You are fooling your head. You don’t even know what the Arab Legion is, but there you are. BV expert. Learn the materiel.
                        About the Arab Legion.
                        I don’t have to know, I don’t need it. hi Who told you that I am an expert on BV? I AM? belay Cross your friend. Yes, never, even did not consider himself as such, do not lie, although you are not in the first. So I’m not going to study BV. As well as proving to you something from this opera, for history is like a corrupt girl, who has it to this day and rewrites it. Or isn’t it?
                      4. +2
                        20 February 2016 14: 36
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        Who told you that I am an expert on BV? I AM?

                        The fact that you are not an expert, I already guessed. But here are your pearls:
                        you live not far off, despite the friendly relations between Israel and Russia, you can sparkle sparks,
                        You do not tell by chance when the Israeli army fought against equal strength opponents ???? Oh, I don’t remember something
                        It's one thing to drive barefoot boobies who run in shales and with Kalash, rockets are boiled from pipes
                        Barefoot, and not motivated. And when they landed at the controls, and the Li-si-qing control panel, then the parade processions ended.
                        You would have these Mujahideen, with their base, and instructors, then they would talk.
                        After all, you and the Palestinians are one nation, if the Bible does not lie.
                        So what you have now is thanks to the USSR. Both the population and the industry created by people from the scoop.

                        Quote: Sirocco
                        Yes, never, even did not consider himself as such, do not lie, although you are not in the first

                        Oh. And who wrote all this? wink
                        You do not tell by chance when the Israeli army fought against equal strength opponents ???? Oh, I don’t remember something
                        It's one thing to drive barefoot boobies who run in shales and with Kalash, rockets are boiled from pipes
                        Barefoot, and not motivated. And when they landed at the controls, and the Li-si-qing control panel, then the parade processions ended.
                        You would have these Mujahideen, with their base, and instructors, then they would talk.
                        After all, you and the Palestinians are one nation, if the Bible does not lie.
                        So what you have now is thanks to the USSR. Both the population and the industry created by people from the scoop.
                      5. 0
                        22 February 2016 07: 58
                        Well, my friend, you are engaged in plagiarism, okay, you can, so be allowed. laughing This is a trend in Israel, nothing of their own is ashamed, as is the population, such as the people of Holodzha of all countries who go to the promised pile. lol
                        You see, Oleg Sokolov, you are not the last resort for me in BV. And who is in authority for me is Satanovsky. Something like this. Argue with him))))
                      6. +1
                        22 February 2016 09: 21
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        You see, Oleg Sokolov, you are not the last resort for me in BV. And who is in authority for me is Satanovsky. Something like this. Argue with him))))

                        It was he who wrote that "This is a trend in Israel, nothing of its own is steal, like the population, such as hicks from all countries of the Gop to the promised heap?" Is his mother a hunger too? She lives in Israel. You are our expert. wink

                        Quote: Sirocco
                        Unlike you, I do not hide the fact that I do not understand something, and I don’t know what.

                        Unlike you, I understand this topic and unlike you, I do not go into topics that I do not understand.

                        Quote: Sirocco
                        This is not a shame. Knowing everything is not possible.

                        It's not a shame not to know, it's a shame to stick out your ignorance. "I don't have to know, I don't need it."

                        Quote: Sirocco
                        Do you know how we differ. ???

                        Are you hinting at the words of the Minister of Culture of Russia, Vladimir Medinsky, in which he stated that the Russian people have one extra chromosome?
                        I hasten to upset you, Jews and Russians have the same number of chromosomes. Although the fact that some (not you) members of the forum have one extra chromosome, I have no doubt. wink
                      7. 0
                        22 February 2016 08: 07
                        Quote: professor
                        The fact that you are not an expert, I already guessed. But here are your pearls:

                        What to say? Unlike you, I do not hide the fact that I do not understand something, and I don’t know what. This is not a shame. Knowing everything is not possible.
                        Do you know how we differ. ???
                        "Durak" stands out from himself as Clever, and considers it correct, and Clever can recognize himself as a Fool, even if it is not so ...
                        hi
                      8. 0
                        20 February 2016 14: 48
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        About the Arab Legion.
                        I don’t have to know, I don’t need it.
                      9. 0
                        22 February 2016 08: 00
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        About the Arab Legion.
                        I don’t have to know, I don’t need it.

                        Are you talking about yourself? I respect you for self-criticism laughing
                        Now about your long silence, was it your spirit that was going, or what?
                        But in fact, it turned out like in a fairy tale,
                        Fought fought, but crap one's pants. With respect to you, the know-it-alls who know nothing, and all the educators. laughing hi
                2. +1
                  20 February 2016 13: 30
                  Do not be scared, scared many times. Your Lisitsins fell down mighty, much more than they told you. Well, we are small people, and that’s enough for us. laughing
                  If the Bible does not lie, then you need to read it, but also to understand, but here you have a bummer. With understanding. Give you all the tales of the type
                  So what you have now is thanks to the USSR
                  The USSR only poisoned us. Such as you, to whom they gave their lives and talent, but they do it in cabbage soup. Something I do not see your paysoders, the honor and pride of the nation.
                  Yes, by the way, thanks for the invitation, then Medvedev, then Putin. We were flattered of course, from our backward places to yours, which have no analogues. Do not cope yourself then?
                  1. +1
                    20 February 2016 13: 47
                    What, the paisas have grown and are bothering. In the USSR, he was embarrassed to grow paisas, but when you left he was so proud of the paisas.
                    1. +1
                      20 February 2016 15: 22
                      In the USSR, he was embarrassed to grow paisas
                      I have always been proud of my Jewry, because of this I have not been taken to the Komsomol, not that you are all sorts there, that neither a Russian is a man, but to scrape ... further along Putin.
                      1. +3
                        20 February 2016 20: 19
                        Quote: tilix
                        I have always been proud of my Jewry, because of that I haven’t been taken to the Komsomol, not that you’re all kinds of people,

                        That is, an insult to the USSR due to the fact that they did not take the Komsomol? Or due to the fact that we are allowed to live different concessions in peace and harmony? But you are a Nazi, however ..
                  2. +5
                    20 February 2016 14: 00
                    Quote: tilix
                    The USSR only poisoned us. Such as you, to whom you gave your life and talent, but they do it in cabbage soup

                    Ta ty shooooo belay All that is acquired by excessive labor, a silver cigarette-case, laughing And the USSR did not poison your life with education? Or were you in home school and learned the Russian language on your own? belay Ah, no, you called yourself God chosen, you are already born with pace and piles laughing
                    Quote: tilix
                    Do not cope yourself then?

                    Well, here you have a grammar, with a history of the problem, although what I, like you in the mid-80s, ruined the Union, and for 25 years, robbed and destroyed your compatriots, which was unparalleled. You would have 25 years of our mess, the world would go with outstretched hands. wassat That is to say, arba horses, gypsies would return to historical roots.
                    1. +2
                      20 February 2016 14: 27
                      One man told me about how they, gold and drag, gained through overwork in mines, in fields, shoved stones in all holes. When they left the USSR, which was so hated, they cannot forget the enema.
                    2. +1
                      20 February 2016 15: 16
                      I said, fairy tales are more sweet to you than the harsh reality of the past. Well, the flag in your hands, by the way you were taught to read, yes, but no, you’re rushing about like an ice hole. Continue in the same vein, peysoobryvateli, I hope you do not have a single peysenosets.
                      1. +1
                        20 February 2016 15: 46
                        Here our desires coincide. Like, we want this so that we don’t have any left ... But about the enemas, I read how the ... exported gold acquired by overwork, bruliants in straight and winding guts. But then the KGB did not doze off.
                      2. +1
                        20 February 2016 15: 55
                        I see that there are big lovers to look into the rectum and look at the Faberge. By the way, only you or for everyone pulling? My father, on leaving, was a joiner, I don’t know what he could take away, except for his two missing fingers, and a plane. Well and me of course, for which many thanks to him.
                      3. -1
                        20 February 2016 16: 10
                        The Chekists did the right thing. Clients and 10 (ten) liters of water, a Jew in memory of Russia. Get and sign.
                      4. +1
                        20 February 2016 16: 15
                        I agree, the main thing is not to forget that it is Russia in Turukhansk, and there are waiting for Chisain, lovers to look into the rectum, and look at the Faberge.
                        I explain to everyone who asks me about a trip to Russia in several languages.
                      5. +1
                        20 February 2016 16: 28
                        Turukhansk is a town in Siberia. Here, Joseph Vissarionovich was serving a link. Yes, your, as you put it, pace-tsy also visited here, all sorts of-Berkovich. And left a memory of yourself with a reserve.
                      6. +1
                        20 February 2016 16: 46
                        And they left a memory of themselves with a smell.
                        Enjoy your meal. I understand your pride, Joseph Vissarionovich himself was serving, but this did not sneeze. And naturally, this has responded with a great improvement in your life.
                        Many, straight, many thanks to my parents for dumping them in time from the fans to look into the rectum and to look at the Faberge.
                      7. +1
                        20 February 2016 16: 57
                        Don’t choke on your own, but he gives away the memory of your stay with a rotten egg. My maternal grandfather worked here. And your Berkovich and other races ran to knock on their own kind. woodpecker, and other Katz did not lag behind him.
                      8. +2
                        20 February 2016 20: 26
                        Quote: tilix
                        Continue in the same vein, peysoobryvateli, I hope you do not have a single peysenosets.

                        I can hardly restrain myself so as not to be naughty. But you are not worthy to be called a Jew. You may be an Israeli, but I don’t give a damn. Because I know the Jews, and I am friends with some. I respect infinitely many Jews who have made many great achievements for the USSR. You're just Natsik in another country. All your words are like words about a pure race. Do you smell what it smells? The mustachioed one who planted you in the oven. What kind of person are you?
                        Well, you couldn’t. There are no forces.
                  3. +1
                    20 February 2016 20: 16
                    Quote: tilix
                    The USSR only poisoned us.

                    And he helped us live. Rest yourself there, "poisoned." You were badly hounded, however, you are talking very loudly. All so offended by the USSR ... Why are you so alive and well? And did the USSR oppose the creation of the state of Israel? Do not be rude to me about my homeland, please. And then I'll start about Israel. If you have already come to discuss something, behave correctly.
          2. +5
            20 February 2016 11: 49
            Quote: Sirocco
            A spark may not reach you, for one reason, if you are collaborating with this Gop Stop team.

            Yes, this has long been understood. Israel is one of those who support terrorism in the region and it was with his participation that the attack of bandits and murderers on peaceful Syria began, as earlier he took part in the destruction of Libya.
            1. +12
              20 February 2016 12: 07
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Yes, it has long been understood. Israel is one of those who support terrorism.

              Pan Professor, modestly silent, the fact of the Israeli Air Force flying into Syria with bombing, on government troops, that is, did what Turkey is doing now.
              1. +4
                20 February 2016 12: 45
                Quote: Sirocco
                Pan Professor, modestly silent, the fact of the Israeli Air Force flying into Syria with bombing, on government troops, that is, did what Turkey is doing now.

                It is absolutely true that the Israeli regimes fired on Syria and Hezbollah fighting terrorists more than once or twice, and then Israel with a brazen "face" also claims that he is against Al-Nusra and Daesh (IS) and Israel is one of their main friends in the region ...
          3. 0
            20 February 2016 15: 45
            For Faberge of Israelis I, in your place, and in my own way, would not have worried. Their Faberge is not inferior to Russian in terms of style.
        5. +9
          20 February 2016 11: 41
          ..... At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit. ...

          .... For the Americans, it’s not necessary .... The time has not come yet ..... But it’s easy to smash the oil terminals - a country that sits only on oil will howl in a very short time .. ..And the Americans swallow silently .... Just because they have to do business with a NUCLEAR power .... And they really do not want to die .... Fortunately, they have the lion's share of industry and population in California - on it a lot will not be necessary ..... hi
        6. +8
          20 February 2016 11: 42
          Quote: professor
          I won’t be surprised if green people and vacationers from neighboring countries appear in Syria.

          ((((and why are they not there?) how many times have Turkish special forces vacationers "surfaced" there, and Saudi citizens, and I want to separately note that with regard to countries neighboring with Syria, the use of the word "little green men" is not appropriate.
          You would have written "polite people".
        7. VP
          +5
          20 February 2016 11: 48
          In Syria, everything is just beginning.

          Tell me, plz, but what begins?
          What is there that has never happened in the five years of the war?
          From MANPADS or something that the baboons never fired?
          So google the video, the barmaleys used them very actively throughout the war, nothing new that could at least somehow turn the tide.
          The Saudis have stupidly exhausted all the tools to influence the situation.
          And about the delivery of new batches of MANPADS, I would, in your place, think about where Hezbollah’s trophies would then go and not be so happy about this event ...
          1. 0
            20 February 2016 12: 13
            .... From MANPADS or something that the baboons never fired? ...

            ... The question is not MANPADS, namely, air defense systems (ground) .... At least close combat .... And this is up to 15 km in height and up to 20-30 km in range .... hi
          2. +1
            20 February 2016 12: 51
            Quote: VP
            Tell me, plz, but what begins?

            The confrontation of serious forces begins. Until now, there were Assad on one side and bearded men in jeeps on the other. Now it will be different.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I read and remembered your comments that here they are, airplanes will arrive, without identification marks, and will smash our base in Syria.
            Is Amer's gut weak?

            1. I did not write this. I wrote that the base is poorly protected and all sorts of bearded men can easily fire at it. What are they doing by the way periodically.
            2. Why should the Americans bomb the base? You are doing dirty work for them, among other things, the ISIS bomb.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes it is, but you personally will not really like it soon.

            Do you really get up from the couch and go to war in Syria? So far, I am satisfied with what is happening in Syria: the threat from the Assad army has ceased to exist (as well as the Assad army itself), WMDs have been destroyed and you, among other things, bomb our enemies. Why should I worry?
            1. +6
              20 February 2016 14: 52
              Quote: professor
              1. I did not write this

              Really didn’t write?
              Professor IL October 7, 2015 08:58 | As in the old days: hit the "Stingers"?
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Now, if anyone can destroy it, only the United States, and this is a warrior in whom you do not believe. Or what did you believe?
              1. Since there are airplanes today, they can be destroyed from the ground in one gulp. And they will do it once and for all.
              2. Airplanes without identification marks in Latakia have already seen. It is expected that Tornadoes or Falcons without identification marks will burn all your equipment in one go.
              3. There will be no nuclear war.
              1. -4
                20 February 2016 15: 06
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Really didn’t write?

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I read and remembered your comments that here they are, airplanes will arrive, without identification marks, and will smash our base in Syria.

                More precisely, it is necessary to quote.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Since there are airplanes today, they can be destroyed from the ground in one gulp. And they will do it once and for all.

                Nothing changed. Airplanes still stand in a row in the open air and wait in the wings. But they are children trying to shell. I do not know how much I successfully know, so all the data about the losses you have is a state secret, and I don’t really believe in bearded people.


                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                2. Airplanes without identification marks in Latakia have already seen. It is expected that Tornadoes or Falcons without identification marks will burn all your equipment in one go.

                I confirm. It might still happen. And the S-400 won't help. Someone will "stab in the back" again.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                3. There will be no nuclear war.

                And nothing has changed here. Judging by the “tomatoes” for the downed Su-24, there will be no war at all, let alone a nuclear one.
                1. +2
                  20 February 2016 20: 39
                  Quote: professor
                  Airplanes still stand in a row in the open air and wait in the wings.

                  You have already uploaded this video. You yourself really like to ask for evidence. Well, where is the evidence that this is not a fake? Where are the breaks in the background of the airfield? Where are the geographic references, at least some? Infa with a stockpile! Already not disdain? Al, how do you yourself again like to say - are you breaching?
                  1. -1
                    20 February 2016 20: 44
                    Quote: Manul
                    You have already uploaded this video. You yourself really like to ask for evidence. Well, where is the evidence that this is not a fake? Where are the breaks in the background of the airfield? Where are any geo-geographic bindings? Infa then with a stockpile. Already not disdain? Al, how do you yourself again like to say - are you breaching?

                    I would like to breach posted this video.
                    1. +1
                      20 February 2016 21: 27
                      Quote: professor
                      I would like to breach posted this video.

                      That is, you do not provide any geographic references to the video of the "shelling of the Khmeimim airfield" posted by you? Wow Professor! You gave me great happiness to express you reasoned - Breshete!
                      The attitude to your arguments has suffered. We are very sorry.
                      1. -1
                        20 February 2016 21: 38
                        Quote: Manul
                        Breshet!

                        Of course I’m a breach. After all, I passed the law banning the publication of my losses. wink

                        Quote: Manul
                        The attitude to your arguments has suffered. We are very sorry.

                        Oh, and what a pity I am when the soldiers are buried in quiet, but "no losses". Just like Khazanov: "... there is no evidence." sad
        8. +5
          20 February 2016 12: 18
          Quote: professor
          At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit.

          I read and remembered your comments that here they are, airplanes will arrive, without identification marks, and will smash our base in Syria.
          Is Amer's gut weak?
          Quote: professor
          The fact that the militias in Syria will acquire air defense systems in the military is not at all a question. I won’t be surprised if green people and vacationers from neighboring countries appear in Syria.

          Will you sell it yourself? Or will you go off to shoot yourself?
          Quote: professor
          In Syria, everything is just beginning.

          Yes it is, but personally you will soon not really like it. There will not be a nuclear warrior lol
        9. +3
          20 February 2016 14: 58
          Quote: professor
          In Syria, everything is just beginning.

          Well, if only Erdogan agreed to play the role of Hitler)). Then, soon:
          -he will "quarrel" with the United States and Britain, and will be simultaneously provided with global funding;
          - they feed the nearby oil-bearing countries;
          - he will agree with Russia on the division of spheres of influence;
          they feed him Europe;
          they will set him against Russia.
          It will be difficult for Israel.
        10. +2
          20 February 2016 19: 52
          Quote: professor
          At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit.

          You are like an adult and don’t understand what are the weaknesses of CA? Indeed, it is precisely by this principle that Husits ​​with an unnamed sponsor can lead ..........
          1. -1
            20 February 2016 20: 01
            Quote: APASUS
            You are like an adult and don’t understand what are the weaknesses of CA? Indeed, it is precisely by this principle that Husits ​​with an unnamed sponsor can lead ..........

            Duc Hussites have periodically fired at the Saudis. Patriot works reliably. Will the S-400 also work reliably covering you in Latakia? wink

            PS
            Why do you keep forgetting that you are not at home? How is it with you: "The East is a delicate matter", "They don't go to someone else's monastery with their own charter."
            1. +2
              20 February 2016 20: 22
              Quote: professor
              Duc Hussites have periodically fired at the Saudis.

              You could choose an ancient rocket or have the information that the Russians supply Scud?
              Quote: professor
              Why do you keep forgetting that you are not at home? How is it with you: "The East is a delicate matter", "They don't go to someone else's monastery with their own charter."

              This is for sure, but the only peculiarity of the Arab world is that you keep silent once and regret it, do you not know? So the return move will be necessary, though with the supplies to the Hussites - this is purely my assumption. But it is quite adequate for similar deliveries to Syria
              1. 0
                20 February 2016 20: 29
                Quote: APASUS
                You could choose an ancient rocket or have the information that the Russians supply Scud?

                Are you alluding to the tax-free Iskader? We are discussing "not named sponsors".

                Quote: APASUS
                This is for sure, but the only peculiarity of the Arab world is that you keep silent once and regret it, do you not know? So the return move will be necessary, though with the supplies to the Hussites - this is purely my assumption. But it is quite adequate for similar deliveries to Syria

                Not everything is so simple and easy. You are to buy transports from the Turks with a hawker and underpants from the Turks. And then rockets are smuggled into Yemen. Oh, not easy. wink
                1. +1
                  20 February 2016 22: 02
                  Quote: professor
                  Are you alluding to the tax-free Iskader? We are discussing "not named sponsors".

                  I just want to say that the Scud weapons taken from the warehouses of the Yemeni army say so very ancient.
                  Quote: professor
                  Not everything is so simple and easy. You are to buy transports from the Turks with a hawker and underpants from the Turks. And then rockets are smuggled into Yemen. Oh not easy

                  For example, how many MANPADS will fit into a standard 40-foot container container or the same ATGMs and what is such a big problem to deliver a couple of such containers?
                  A million dollars weighs 10 kg, just for example
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2016 08: 27
                    Quote: APASUS
                    I just want to say that the Scud weapons taken from the warehouses of the Yemeni army say so very ancient.

                    What has changed since ancient times in rocketry? Iskander, which has no analogs in the world, will not be considered.

                    Quote: APASUS
                    For example, how many MANPADS will fit into a standard 40-foot container container or the same ATGMs and what is such a big problem to deliver a couple of such containers?

                    There are already more than a dozen containers of this stuff. More than 20 thousand MANPADS "disappeared" from Gaddafi's warehouses alone. They didn't make the weather.

                    Quote: APASUS
                    A million dollars weighs 10 kg, just for example

                    A million dollars $ 100 in dollar bills weighs a little less than 10 kg. By the way, a million Soviet rubles (banknotes of 100) weighed 16 kg.
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    6. +12
      20 February 2016 11: 16
      A beautiful PUK from the Saudis ... If they wanted / could, the "Moderate" systems would already have MANPADS (And maybe SAM systems).
      Russia take on a cheap show-off (see trumps from the Saudis over). Not only that, the Saudis remember me- Burn-burn Turkish fuel truck!which can be supplemented- Take off and blaze the Arab caravan! The experience of covering caravans at the Aerospace Forces is good and it was started not in Syria, but in the mountains of Afghanistan. Moreover, the citizens of the CA who were destroyed during the transportation of MANPADS to the territory of Syria (in fact, on the territory of Syria) can no longer be somehow justified / avenged in official institutions such as the UN. For HEX was to climb into a country at war without a UN resolution. Moreover, until the list of groups of those "Moderate Islamists" who are fighting against ISIS has not been formed, the Saudis cannot justify themselves by transporting MANPADS to the "Moderate" ...

      PS
      A cheap punt is more expensive than money ... It's a pity the old king of the Saudis died, the man seemed to have brains, the current "Princes of the Blood" grown in greenhouse conditions do not realize what they are doing both by their actions and by their statements ...

      P.P.S.
      It seems to me the story of Saudi Arabia as we knew it (within the borders) will soon come to an end ...
    7. +4
      20 February 2016 11: 17
      Something seems to me that if these clowns really put this weapon to the terrorists, then our air defense assets will also appear in Yemen.
      So let them try, and we will answer in such a way that they would get offended.
    8. 0
      20 February 2016 17: 05
      Better not to Syria, but immediately to the Saudis. For example, put one Caliber for each oil storage. And if they don’t understand then to each oil terminal.
  2. +12
    20 February 2016 11: 04
    In Syria, however, as well as in the East in general - "right and wrong hands" - the concept is very vague .... and the concepts of "opposition" and "terrorists" are just a play on words, since sometimes it is not possible to make out who is in front of you, either an ardent oppositionist, or a moderate terrorist! What can you do - East! Therefore, it is best to focus on concepts - official Damascus and others ...
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  4. +5
    20 February 2016 11: 05
    Russian VKS like a bone in the throat of these jackals. So they think what other muck to send
  5. +4
    20 February 2016 11: 06
    This daunyonok with eyes narrowed to the nose has been surprising this world with its idle talk for almost 8 years .. So still I can’t understand, these are consequences of accumulation or elementary human stupidity ..
    1. +4
      20 February 2016 11: 08
      That is, it does not seem to me alone that this prince is more than that.
  6. +4
    20 February 2016 11: 06
    regime airplanes that fire chemical weapons
    belay fool
    Well, maybe the Hans are planted. And even the Psheks thought about sending their litak ...
  7. +5
    20 February 2016 11: 08
    Shell with chemical weapons ????? the symptoms are very similar to the kaklo virus))))

    Well, well .... We have leverage over the Saudis, Yemenis have long dreamed of modern portable air defense systems
  8. +3
    20 February 2016 11: 08
    A direct challenge to Russia! Pugs, suddenly stopped being afraid of the Elephant - why would it?
    1. +3
      20 February 2016 11: 22
      Behind this pug, another elephant stands, so she fell in love.
  9. +1
    20 February 2016 11: 10
    P. Indos thus try to annoy Assad, along with us.
  10. +3
    20 February 2016 11: 11
    They will allow moderate opposition to shoot down helicopters and regime planes that fire chemical weapons

    Even the mericatos admitted that militants used chemical weapons in Syria!
    They hike in that "coalition" as in Krylov's fable: Swan, Cancer and Pike.
    Only they still have boobies - pike swan cancer! laughing
  11. +3
    20 February 2016 11: 11
    There is no doubt that the missiles will be at the IG. It would be fun if IS mistakenly crashes a plane with a Saudi prince ...
  12. +10
    20 February 2016 11: 12
    In general, something a lot of people who want to fight have recently appeared. Moreover, in a small piece of territory. Moreover, those who wish themselves shout more than they can. Our VKS so stirred up this chicken coop that now clucking rushing from all sides? Six months ago, everything was tip-top?
    1. 0
      20 February 2016 16: 25
      Quote: Wedmak
      Our VKS so heaped up this chicken coop

      As a result of the actions of the HQS, the oil reserves of the Saudis are decreasing)).
  13. +8
    20 February 2016 11: 14
    We think that the supply of surface-to-air missiles will change the balance of power in Syria.

    At least someone would explain to a dude from a gas station about a game with matches.
    and what kind of "shelling with chemical weapons"? Does burnus put pressure on his brain?
  14. 0
    20 February 2016 11: 19
    Yes, no one doubted!
  15. +3
    20 February 2016 11: 21
    friends remember the story of the capture of Soviet diplomats? in my opinion it was also a freak of the Saudis. so during the negotiations on the release of one of our diplomats (colonel of the KGB, if you remember correctly), he said that during the Strategic Missile Forces exercises there might be malfunctions_you know, the rocket can change course ... so I think about the same thing said our supreme in the telephone conversation with king saudi.
  16. +2
    20 February 2016 11: 24
    Dear, they’ll deliver, because the end of ISIS is approaching, because of the bushes it’s just their policy, the question is, where will these complexes be shot and who, our VKS, of course will take additional measures, but the visits to Moscow need to be stopped, and then comes the hour of reckoning, the planes of Iran, the PTRC, the MANPADS, spread the data to the Hussites, the strengthening of Syria in all respects, and let's see how much Saudi Arabia will have as a state
  17. VP
    +3
    20 February 2016 11: 30
    Stingers or what?
    As if they were not there and as if there was some sense in using them on airplanes operating from 6 km wink
    And if there is any kind of SAM, so the Saudis themselves do not know how to work for them, what is the point of giving them to the women, so that they can be spotted and bombed out?
  18. +2
    20 February 2016 11: 30
    If there is such a supply, I’m sure that one of the missiles will soon fly in the window to this minister.
  19. tux
    +9
    20 February 2016 11: 31
    Dear professor and Atalef, your opinion is interesting as people living in the immediate vicinity of events. If we assume that Russia will eventually be forced to leave Syria, and Assad will be overthrown, what then do you see for further events in Syria and the Middle East region in general? How do you see the life of your country in this vein?
    1. 0
      20 February 2016 13: 02
      Quote: tux.topwar
      Dear professor and Atalef, your opinion is interesting as people living in the immediate vicinity of events.

      I see Lebanon through the window, and from the balcony Syria, therefore, I do not see what is happening there as a hypothetical war.

      Quote: tux.topwar
      If we assume that Russia will eventually be forced to leave Syria, and Assad will be overthrown, what then do you see for further events in Syria and the Middle East region in general? How do you see the life of your country in this vein?

      1. There is no doubt that Russia is not forever in Syria. We have already gone through this.
      2. Syria will no longer be (in our lifetime) a single state. There will be Alavistan (on your bayonets), Kurdistan, the State of the Sunnis. The Druze will join the strongest despite the fact that there are 800 of them.
      3. He will lose this Turkey, Iran and Iraq as Kurdistan will tear off their territory. Lebanon will, as always, rally "for the company" Israel will win because we have good relations with the Kurds. Weakened Iran, Iraq and Turkey are only a hand to us since they have never been friends. Syria already does not pose a strategic threat to Israel, as well as ISIS.
      4. What is happening in Syria has strengthened Israel’s ties with the Sunni regimes: Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf countries. We now have a common enemy: the Islamic State of Iran.
      1. 0
        20 February 2016 16: 03
        Well, it wouldn’t be too bad for you to make peace with Iran, or for Iran with you, and even better for you and Iran. Nevertheless, respectful and partnerships are more beneficial than constant confrontation and teasing each other.
        1. +1
          20 February 2016 16: 19
          I remember, more than six months ago, I wrote here that a big bargain began. The Iranians did not come, Russia began to bomb, and the Saudis broke up, so it may be better with Iran, but a good spoon for dinner, and who did not have time, he was late.
  20. +2
    20 February 2016 11: 39
    It is not clear what to hope for Audits (well, they really want to annoy us), even if they deliver surface-to-air missiles and as soon as the "moderate opposition" turn on the detection station, our systems will immediately detect this, the SU-34 will suppress or the electronic warfare system that is already available at our base in Syria, and then it will be easily destroyed
  21. +4
    20 February 2016 11: 40
    The people, the Americans urgently withdraw their bombers from Syria and Iraq for a reason. Barmalei will bring down everything that flies from the sky.
    1. +1
      20 February 2016 12: 32
      Quote: military commissar
      The people, the Americans urgently withdraw their bombers from Syria and Iraq for a reason. Barmalei will bring down everything that flies from the sky.

      If they have something, or rather, if something, what to bring down, they will reach the barmalei ...
      1. 0
        20 February 2016 13: 01
        So it has already arrived. We were officially warned that they would not have bombed the officers in the general heap. Airplanes removed. Now the prince made a throw-in. Tomorrow may be indicated.
        1. 0
          20 February 2016 18: 18
          Quote: military commissar
          So it has already arrived.

          But this is not a fact. Americans constantly throw something somewhere, then throw it back, etc. And the "prynts" can really try to just take Russia for cheap show-off, because to transfer full-fledged air defense systems to the rebels is not a hukhry muhry, you cannot learn how to use them as simple stingers in a couple of days, and you need to provide it, and ours have something to cover - those calibers the same.
          Although, to be honest, who knows these fucking Saudis? But if they really throw something bearded, then this is just an excuse to bomb even harder ... with a carpet ... like the slide on which our Su-24 fell ...
  22. +4
    20 February 2016 11: 48
    Together with Assad, Russia needs to quickly end the offensive in the north, then all hysteria will end. The Saudis already wanted to introduce a 150 thousandth contingent, ended with a loud bunch. Take on a rotten Pontus.
  23. +1
    20 February 2016 11: 48
    The Saudis will only sign a verdict for themselves by this decision - for then the Houthis will have "surprises from which the Saudi dynasty will be ruined like a devil in the church."
  24. VP
    +2
    20 February 2016 11: 55
    Quote: military commissar
    The people, the Americans urgently withdraw their bombers from Syria and Iraq for a reason. Barmalei will bring down everything that flies from the sky.

    Stop driving the blizzard.
    Americans are withdrawing due to the fact that the B-1 had problems with the operation of the cabin equipment, they are being redone. They are just the least threat - they fly at different altitudes and their radio visibility is much lower than those of the same F-15s that remain.
    And no one will ever transfer any normal air defense systems to babays - it is pointless, and there is no one to work for them and he will live there exactly until his first "broadcast" is noticed.
    It's about MANPADS. Which there and so in bulk.
    1. +2
      20 February 2016 13: 06
      Why a blizzard? We are couch warriors in that we differ from the real ones in that we put forward assumptions from news and rumors. And then we prove to each other who is more to the right.
  25. +4
    20 February 2016 11: 55
    “But you have to be very careful in this matter, because weapons should not fall into the wrong hands,” he added.


    The special forces (military intelligence) need to seize this weapon as soon as possible, transfer it to the Syrian army and use it with good conscience on Turkish aircraft ... Let the Saudis respond ...
  26. 0
    20 February 2016 11: 56
    If most of the Syrian youth of draft age did not pull to Europe for a better life, then the liberation of Syria has already ended. In the meantime, this gimp drags on for a long time with an unpredictable ending.
    1. +2
      20 February 2016 12: 19
      Do you think that most of them would have fought for Assad? You are mistaken, dumped the Sunnis that Assad hates, and would fight against Assad, or would run away with weapons, as it was more than once at the very beginning of this war. We passed from Assad to the rebels with battalions and regiments.
      1. 0
        20 February 2016 15: 23
        Sunites, Hussites, Shiites ,,,, - these are citizens of one country in Syria, which was attacked by an external enemy and all as one (as I thought), tens or hundreds of thousands of volunteers will come to the recruiting station. But you are probably right. This is not Russia.
        1. +4
          20 February 2016 15: 35
          Sunites, Hussites, Shiites
          The Hussites are not a bit from here, but it seems to me that it is not clear to you that the Arabs have a non-primary country, the first is a clan, then a religion, and only then a country. The Sunnis of Turkey are closer to them than the Alawites, although neither those nor the others have ever been Arabs. In Russia, as in several other countries, the country comes first. Mentality and values ​​are different.
          1. 0
            20 February 2016 17: 44
            Dear, this is precisely the opinion that is held, the man who returned from there
  27. +1
    20 February 2016 11: 57
    Riyadh is considering supplying Syrian opposition with air-to-air missiles

    Then do not be offended when it flies back, you are ours gold.
  28. +4
    20 February 2016 12: 04
    another stuffing from the sheets of wrapped drovers of camels, in response to our media it is necessary to throw in that the Russian Federation is considering the possibility of supplying heavy weapons to Yemeni-Shiite freedom fighters
  29. -4
    20 February 2016 12: 11
    It is remembered that in 78 m China wanted to acquire Harier from the Naglia, then the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs told London that as soon as the first Harier crossed the USSR border, a missile strike would be launched on the Naglia. The deal fell through.
    1. -1
      21 February 2016 01: 40
      I don’t understand, but minus what for? Or are we visiting mi 6? :-)
      1. +1
        21 February 2016 11: 42
        apparently came under "friendly fire" :)
        1. -1
          21 February 2016 13: 52
          Thanks for the joke! For this, the cons are not scary :-)
  30. +1
    20 February 2016 12: 12
    “But you have to be very careful in this matter, because weapons should not fall into the wrong hands,” he added.


    The United States, which has banned its aircraft from flying in northern Syria, faces a serious threat. Writes about this edition Bloomberg. According to the author of the article, the authorities of the United States of America took such a step, frightened by the Russian "Buks" installed in the region.
    At the same time, the publication emphasizes that the Pentagon even made it clear that it was reconciled with the actions of Russia and accepted its rules of the game.
    "The Russians are trying to create zones in which they would give the Americans permission to fly. By their actions, the Russians largely determine the military landscape," said former US Central Command analyst Matthew McInnis.

    Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-12-19/smi-rasskazali-pochemu-ssha-otozvali-boevye-sam
    olety-iz-sirii © REN.TV

    Is there a bunch here?
  31. 0
    20 February 2016 12: 13
    Or maybe there are no oppositionists at all and there never have been. Just trying to bring horror and save the last bandits! But they didn’t have much left. Who later will help the Saudis ..
  32. 0
    20 February 2016 12: 17
    It is clear what systems the Saudis can supply to their clients. It is clear that the Patriot they have will not be supplied. The Hawk remains, which can operate on targets above 6000 meters. However, today its value is not great. Moreover, the complex and ways of countering it are well known by the Russian Aerospace Forces since the days of the USSR, so its use will not bring long-term success. Another complex that the Saudis can deliver is "Crotal". However, the maximum height of hitting a target is 6000 meters. Slightly more than that of MANPADS. So, in fact, the Saudis do not have the ability to change the alignment of forces in Syria. But the negative consequences of such supplies for the Saudis will certainly be.
    1. -1
      25 February 2016 06: 32
      Buy in the same Ukraine BUKI.
  33. 0
    20 February 2016 12: 27
    What do the Saudis think? Well, Turkey is at least in NATO. And what do these people want at all, because the fact that the United States is behind them is now nothing more than a mirage in the desert after their oil wars. If such weapons appear in Syria, the answer will be in full, and the United States will have nothing to justify them, and whether they want to, and our "Arrows" are not yet in Iraq. Or maybe just a bluff.
  34. +1
    20 February 2016 12: 37
    I watch the Saudis and Turkey play at full bets putting at stake the integrity or existence of their countries as such ?!
  35. mvg
    +1
    20 February 2016 12: 44
    Quote: professor
    At those airfields, American aviation. The gut is weak for the Americans to hit.

    Professor, if "such a booze" goes there, then your share will get pussies .. You won't be able to sit on the sidelines ..
    1. +2
      20 February 2016 13: 09
      Quote: mvg
      Professor, if "such a booze" goes there, then your share will get pussies .. You won't be able to sit on the sidelines ..

      We are ready. And you? Do you have a bomb shelter in your house? wink
      1. +4
        20 February 2016 13: 36
        Quote: professor
        Do you have a bomb shelter in your house?

        Russia is a peaceful country and is not going to fight with anyone unless we are forced by this is not Israel, which all neighbors hate and which occupied Palestine and other lands, therefore it is necessary to "divide" this territory into at least two parts, Palestine and Israel itself.
        And here the opinions of Moscow and Washington coincide strangely.
        Obama invited Israel to return to the 1967 borders
        US President Barack Obama, speaking on the situation in the Middle East, called on Israel to return to the 1967 borders, CNN reports.
        http://lenta.ru/news/2011/05/20/borders/
        At a meeting with Livni, Lavrov invited Israel to return to the borders of 1967
        Lavrov strongly recommended re-weighing the Arab initiative for the retreat of Israel to the 1967 borders
        http://9tv.co.il/news/2016/02/14/221645.html
      2. 0
        22 February 2016 10: 11
        There is an area of ​​17 km. 000
    2. +1
      20 February 2016 15: 58
      if there goes "such a booze"
      Which one, exactly? Not every "booze" is necessary.
  36. msm
    msm
    -2
    20 February 2016 13: 32
    Yesterday Rudskoy correctly said at Solovyov's: "Qatar and the Saudis are direct accomplices of terrorists. We must strictly warn them ..." But, our rulers are fattening worse than well-fed Europe, they have something to lose. Therefore, we will sit quietly.
    1. -1
      20 February 2016 14: 08
      Tired of this Solovyov with his kagal. Suddenly, he rushed from ... he was preoccupied with the fate of Russia. As soon as you turn on the tel, you see only one characteristic physic.
  37. HAM
    +1
    20 February 2016 13: 35
    Thirty-year-old head of the harem imagines himself a strategist, and, unfortunately, has the opportunity ..
  38. 0
    20 February 2016 13: 41
    Quote: Max_Bauder
    Doesn't this minister want a caliber on the head? am

    But about this possibility, as I recall, Qatar has already warned of GDP !!!!
  39. +2
    20 February 2016 14: 37
    We urgently need to provide assistance to the Yemeni rebels so that they can begin to beat the smug Saudis even more successfully, this of course in exchange for surface-to-air missiles, which are designed to fight the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.
  40. gcn
    0
    20 February 2016 16: 56
    Isn't that what we sold the armor to?
  41. 0
    20 February 2016 17: 22
    “But you have to be very careful in this matter, because weapons should not fall into the wrong hands,” he added.

    the right head will not worry about the wrong hands ...
  42. 0
    20 February 2016 17: 57
    At the same time, the Saudis need to consider supplying them with air-surface missiles. Filling according to their wishes, can be a simple explosive, can be atomic, though then where to look for them.
  43. Anz
    0
    20 February 2016 19: 39
    Quote: Maksus
    But is this not a violation of the UN resolution on the prevention and non-proliferation of something there? Then what prevents us from delivering something very interesting to Syria?

    And Afghanistan didn’t interfere. But with the appearance of the blue olds, cows and crocodiles really discouraged the descent to go below four hundred meters, and they came in for a landing at the airport with a stone.
  44. +1
    20 February 2016 19: 47
    So Russian needles and cornets will probably be put to Hussites
  45. 0
    20 February 2016 21: 41
    about hands is very important. whatever the child (bearded) would not amuse - if only not with his hands