Used to live in fear

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Turkish citizens are afraid. In the evening, February 17 in Ankara, thundered another powerful explosion. The attack occurred near the buildings of the command of the Air Force and Navy, the General Staff, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the parliament building and hostels of military personnel. The terrorists blew up a car filled with explosives. According to the representative of the Turkish government Numan Kurtulmush, 28 people died as a result of the explosion. According to other data, the dead - more than 30. Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu canceled the planned trip to Brussels, and President Erdogan postponed his visit to Azerbaijan. Locals fear that this explosion is not the last.

Used to live in fear


The death toll in Ankara was 28 people, said the representative of the Turkish government Numan Kurtulmush. 61 people were injured. According to the preliminary version of the authorities, the car exploded with explosives, transfers "BBC".

According to Reuters, an explosion damaged a hostel building for military personnel.

Because of the terrorist attack, President Erdogan postponed his visit to Azerbaijan.

Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu canceled a trip to Brussels.

The representative of the ruling Justice and Development Party, Omer Celik, wrote on his Twitter account that the explosion was an act of terrorism.

BBC reminds that this is far from the first terrorist act in Turkey: on October 10 of last year, suicide bombers exploded in Ankara, killing 102 people, and on January 12 2016, at least ten people died from a powerful explosion central square of Istanbul.

Late in the evening on February 17 on the TV channel "RT" There were exclusive interviews taken by journalists from residents of Ankara and eyewitnesses to the terrorist attack.

People are scared, interviewees say. All agencies have long warned of a terrorist threat.

"The explosion occurred after the end of the working day near the military center in Ankara - in the area where the buildings of the Air Force, the Navy and other government institutions are located," said Holiday Inn Ankara hotel correspondent RT Hofoner.

According to him, the residents of the capital are very frightened: “All institutions warn their employees about the need to be careful because of the terrorist threat, everyone is waiting for something to happen. We expect bad news for a long time: after the June elections, we live in constant fear, under the threat of new explosions. ”

An employee of the hotel believes that the local population “under the rule of Erdogan” is accustomed to living in fear: “We live in Turkey. While we live under the rule of Erdogan, this is “normal.” We have constant problems with our neighbors - with Syria, Iraq, Iran, Greece, so this has all become familiar. ”

An employee of a cafe reported that the explosion thundered around 18: 30 local time: “The explosion was strong, the windows began to tremble. Of course, people were scared. We had a full cafe, and now nobody is there. In general, our street is crowded, and now there is no one here. A lot of police and ambulances. ”

TASS cites the statement of the Minister of Health of Turkey, Mehmet Muezinoglu. According to him, "in Ankara, 14 is injured in an explosion in 61 hospitals."

“Most of the injured and dead are representatives of the armed forces,” he specified.

February 18 Online TASS There is a new information about the terrorist attack in Ankara.

More than 30 people died and over 60 injured. The country's leadership has accused Kurdish groups of crimes. In the case of the terrorist attack detained 14 people.

Ahmet Davutoglu blamed the terrorist attack on members of Kurdish groups operating in Turkey and Syria.

“We have collected intelligence in connection with the terrorist attack. At the moment, we can accurately say that members of the terrorist group “National Self-Defense Forces” (SNS, Syrian Kurds), infiltrating from Syria and associated with the separatist terrorist organization in Turkey (Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK. - Approx. TASS), ”the Russian agency quotes him.

According to Davutoglu, “the perpetrator of the terrorist act is a native of Syria, Salih Nejar”.

“Our opposition to border violations by Syria will continue,” Davutoglu said. - Attacks on Turkey will not go unanswered. The army will continue to strike at the SNA in northern Syria. "

In turn, President Erdogan informed that on suspicion of involvement in the terrorist attack, the authorities detained 14 people. “Detentions will definitely continue. They will not stop at this figure, ”the president said.

The Kurds denounced the Turkish authorities.

Kurdish self-defense detachments did not organize an explosion in Ankara, this is the work of the IG, said RIA News" leader of the Kurdish Democratic Union, Salih Muslim Mohammed.

“This is absolutely not true. There is no connection between the Kurds and what happened in Ankara. What happened there refers to the struggle of Turkey against the “IG”, whose elements live in Turkey, ”said Salih Muslim.

Some experts believe that Ankara intended to launch a full-scale military operation in Syria, for which the guilty are appointed.

“Of course, it can be assumed that any structure affiliated with the Democratic Union organized an explosion in Ankara directed against the Turkish military,” said "Free Press" Director of the Center for the Study of the Countries of the Middle East and Central Asia, Semen Bagdasarov. - There are enough thugs everywhere, especially since in the south-east of Turkey there is a real civil war, about which the media prefer not to write. But when the security services of Turkey, and then Erdogan, are promptly accused of a terrorist act by a Syrian citizen - a soldier of the militant wing of the Democratic Union party, it frankly looks like a provocation arranged by the order of the authorities. ”

The expert does not believe that the self-defense detachments of the “Democratic Union” need to carry out a terrorist act in Turkey for anything: after all, they are fighting in Syria. Why would they have such a terrorist act - to give Erdogan a reason to send troops into the SAR? “This fact attracts attention,” the expert continued. - The Turkish leadership from all the tribunes stated that it can no longer tolerate what is happening in Syria and is ready to send troops into the buffer zone, the EU and the US are actively dissuading the Turks, and suddenly there is a terrorist attack in the center of Ankara. In his urgent appeal to the country, Erdogan announced that Turkey would begin an active fight against terrorism in Turkey itself and abroad ... ”

“In my opinion,” Bagdasarov concluded, “everything is clear: the introduction of troops into Syria, which have long been concentrated on the border, will begin the other day.”

The Turks do not need the support of the Persian monarchies, they themselves will cope, the analyst said. And they don’t have to use Aviation. Turks can use the artillery and armored vehicles that they have enough. The Kurds do not have heavy weapons.

“Therefore, there is one of two things here: either the Syrian army, together with the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Kurds, will begin to act against the Turks in the buffer zone, or the Syrian Kurds will simply collapse,” the expert believes. “The Turkish authorities clearly said: we need a buffer zone with a depth of 10 km, including the city of Azaz.” If the Kurds close the 98-kilometer corridor, then everything, the two cantons, Afrin and Cobani, will join, and the border will be completely under the control of the Kurds. Ankara will not allow this, and therefore will send troops into Syria. ”

Be that as it may, we add from ourselves, while Erdogan and his party comrade Davutoglu have a serious reason to invade Syria. Now we should expect belligerent statements about the national security of Turkey and the need to counter the threat of “Kurdish separatists”.

Well, the citizens of Turkey will still be afraid. During the reign of Erdogan, this is “normal,” as one Turk said sadly.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. +20
    20 February 2016 06: 08
    Let them say thanks to Erdogan.
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    2. +12
      20 February 2016 06: 17
      It seems that Turkish refugees will soon appear in Europe laughing
      1. +3
        20 February 2016 07: 00
        do not have time to escape if a mess begins.
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        2. +16
          20 February 2016 09: 32
          The article is very relevant, and the author can completely trust the presentation of the material.
          I note that the director of the Center for the Study of the Middle East and Central Asia, Semyon Baghdasarov, whom the author quotes, is a very respected person in analytical forecasting, worked in the South Asian republics, he knows the problems from his many years of personal experience.
          I do not know a single case when Semyon Bagdasorov was mistaken in his political, economic and social assessments. Opponent liberals just howl at him!
          The opinion of S. Baghdasarov is worthy of the deepest attention - especially since he was constantly right.

          To the author for the article +
          1. +4
            20 February 2016 10: 40
            Erdogan has no choice! Either he will begin a ground operation in Syria and what God might know will result in it, or Erdogan himself will not be soon! Here you don’t even have to be a discerning orientalist! Behind him are the powerful Sheikhs-Saudis and ... Anglo-Saxons, who generally like to rake the heat with the wrong hands!
            While Iran’s tough stance, the presence of our VKS and the muddy flirting of the Americans with the Kurds stop him ... but Erdogan’s time is getting less and less for a decision!
            1. +2
              20 February 2016 11: 36
              Quote: Finches
              While Iran’s tough stance, the presence of our VKS and the muddy flirting of the Americans with the Kurds stop him ... but Erdogan’s time is getting less and less for a decision!

              It is balancing on the brink, on the one hand, cannot get strong support from NATO, on the other, it hopes that Russia will be afraid of a clash with NATO and will not touch the Turkish troops that have entered Syria! Taking advantage of this, quietly, he wants to take control of the 98 km corridor and create a 10 km buffer zone.
          2. +4
            20 February 2016 11: 25
            Well, what did the Turks want, the war crashed?
          3. +1
            20 February 2016 12: 25
            Quote: Tatiana
            The article is very relevant, and the author can completely trust the presentation of the material.
            I note that the director of the Center for the Study of the Middle East and Central Asia, Semyon Baghdasarov, whom the author quotes, is a very respected person in analytical forecasting, worked in the South Asian republics, he knows the problems from his many years of personal experience.
            I do not know a single case when Semyon Bagdasorov was mistaken in his political, economic and social assessments. Opponent liberals just howl at him!
            The opinion of S. Baghdasarov is worthy of the deepest attention - especially since he was constantly right.

            To the author for the article +

            I remember Baghdasarov spoke before the Duma and warned about the idiocy of kissing passionately with the Turks, as he looked into the water.
            1. 0
              20 February 2016 23: 30
              I remember Baghdasarov spoke before the Duma and warned about the idiocy of kissing passionately with the Turks, as he looked into the water.

              Well, firstly, if an Armenian is giving a lecture not on the topic "Is there life on Mars", then the main thread of his lecture will be the thesis that life on Mars was very good, which the Armenians established there, but then the Turks came .. " wink
              And secondly ... was he looking into the water? The surge of truly wild joy on the Armenian websites when the Turks shot down our SU-24 was very obvious. Of course, they expressed condolences for the death of our pilot, but 99% of the texts of the comments were that now Russia will understand that it is impossible to be friends with the Turks. A further development of their thesis that "Russia cannot be friends with the Turks" was the thesis that "Russia will now be friends exclusively with the Armenians."
              And considering how confused Erdogan was when he found out about our downed plane, how stupid and contradictory were his first comments .. you can't help wondering if someone used Erdogan's public rhetoric, who several times publicly threatened to shoot down: "Any planes violating the Turkish border ", but in reality he had no intention of shooting down our plane.
              If a crime is committed, then in 99% of the criminals (performer or customer) is the one who received the greatest benefit from the crime. I doubt that Erdogan got any kind of benefit at all.
      2. +4
        20 February 2016 09: 09
        Quote: siberalt
        It seems that Turkish refugees will soon appear in Europe laughing

        In the West, they have already appointed the guilty. . . Putin!
    3. +6
      20 February 2016 06: 23
      All the same, he decided, the ototyurok unfinished .....
      Well, how they all blew Bosko if contacting Russia, hoping for NATU .....
      If it goes on like this, then NATE itself, no one can help ..... !!!!!
    4. +28
      20 February 2016 08: 06
      There is one detail that Erdogan's media are silent about. As pointed out by the TV channel "Zvezda" three days ago, out of 28 victims in this bus, 22 were Turkish military pilots. So, we rushed very competently. And from this it follows that we can assume with a high degree of certainty that this explosion is not, in fact, a terrorist act aimed at intimidating the authorities and the population, but is a very successful sabotage of the enemy aimed at destroying qualified enemy professionals.
      1. +11
        20 February 2016 08: 35
        This was the information of one of the Turkish television channels. The bus drove the army to a meeting at the General Staff. At the same time, it was suggested that this incident was not ordinary terrorist acts, but a diversion purposely committed to destroy the elite of the Turkish Air Force, who allegedly went to a meeting at headquarters in order to prepare for an air operation in a neighboring country - guess which !
        Here is relatively detailed, but at the same time conflicting information - http://news-mail.by/2016/02/17/terakt-v-ankare-17-02-2016/
        By the way, Erdogan immediately blamed the Kurds for this "terrorist attack" and there was even information that the Kurdistan Workers' Party took responsibility for it. But this information turned out to be a common fake. Neither the Kurds, nor ISIS - Daesh took responsibility. But the "guilty" were immediately identified and detained very quickly.
        Syrian suicide bomber Salih Nejar, who arrived in Turkey under the guise of a refugee, is suspected of committing a terrorist attack in Ankara, where 28 people were killed and 61 injured, the Yeni Safak newspaper reported on Thursday, citing a police source.

        I have the honor.
        1. +2
          21 February 2016 00: 41
          At the same time, it was suggested that this incident was not ordinary terrorist acts, but a diversion purposely committed to destroy the elite of the Turkish Air Force, who allegedly went to a meeting at headquarters in order to prepare for an air operation in a neighboring country - guess which !
          Acting pilots do not go to meetings in the "headquarters", and even more so in the "General Staff". Yes, they have nothing to do there. Usually, such meetings are held in all armies of the world, and I don't think that the Turkish army is in any way different from the rest, army officials with the rank of colonel and higher go. Perhaps one of them could still fly himself. But it is unlikely that everyone there was "the current elite of the flight crew." The elite of 10 years ago - yes, perhaps they were. But now they were rather fat commanders and staff officers. The tasks for the operating flight personnel are not assigned at the General Staff, but at the air bases.
          But the fact remains that no matter who the killed servicemen were, they could be involved to one degree or another in the possible (or already ongoing) operations of Turkey in Syria. And in this regard, the following comes to mind.
          June 1999, Kosovo, Pristina. The famous landing assault on the airport of Pristina.
          But few know that even before the arrival of the landing, this airfield had already been controlled by a group of our scouts for more than a week. The group was headed by Yunus bek Evkurov. Yunus-bek Yevkurov's group of 18 people secretly infiltrated the Slatina airfield in Pristina in late May - early June 1999 and "secretly (invisible to others) controlled it until the landing battalion approached." But apparently this "invisibility" has surfaced somewhere in NATO. To neutralize Yevkurov's group, a special SAS detachment flew out of Italy. The task is to destroy our group of special forces, armed only with light weapons, before the approach of a battalion of our paratroopers, already moving with heavier weapons, including the BMD. As you know, our airborne battalion approached the airfield early in the morning on June 12, 1999.
          Now we look at what else happened on June 11, 1999.
          On June 11, an American Combat Talon special-purpose aircraft MS-130, Combat Talon, flew from NATO airbase in Italy with a group of 40 British military personnel from one of the SAS regiments. These SAS were supposed to neutralize (that is, destroy) the group of Yunus bey Evkurov before the approach of our paratroopers. The plane made scheduled refueling at the Kukes Albanian air base, where it arrived in the evening, June 11, 1999. However, when taking off from the strip of the Kukes airfield, this plane crashed. All commandos and crew members died. Subsequently, the NATO Commission concluded that the aerodrome strip in Kukes (Albania) was not long enough for this type of aircraft

          As Yunus bey Yevkurov pointedly said
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBGPZJI920s
          - all the secrets of that operation (not just the throw of the airborne battalion itself at the Slatina airfield, but the circumstances that ensured this throw) will not be revealed for a long time. And he himself does not know many.
          This group of Turkish soldiers died no less timely than the special forces from the SAS in June 1999.
          Of course, all of the above is just my fantasies on the topic and are not official information negative
      2. +8
        20 February 2016 08: 49
        Quote: Blondy
        is a very successful enemy diversion

        It must be admitted that if this is the work of the Kurds, then intelligence works for them even not very badly. To know when and where the bus with the military will be located, so that a car filled with explosives will be nearby at the right time. Or is it, nevertheless, a provocation of the Turkish special services in order to blame all the dogs on the Kurds and thus justify the intervention in Syria? Teachers at the Turks overseas have good teachers. The two skyscrapers to bring down and fill up more than two thousand people, including compatriots, didn’t cost anything in order to uproot Hussein, and then some 28-30 people ... I am more inclined to the second option.
        1. +2
          20 February 2016 13: 44
          Quote: Kombitor
          Or is it, nevertheless, a provocation of the Turkish special services in order to blame all the dogs on the Kurds and thus justify the intervention in Syria?

          Also more inclined to the second option. The same scheme as September 11.09.2001, XNUMX. The attack, followed by not letting anyone come to their senses, is another. The scale, of course, is several times smaller, but Turkey, mind you, is not America. And the terrorist is right there on a silver platter provided. And, the main thing is exactly what the authorities need now - the Syrian Kurd, who would doubt it. Everything happened very timely, hands were untied, now, whatever the Turks would do, it will be a defense of the country's security. Looking at all this, a logical question arises: if the Turks have such quick intelligence services that almost on the same day they identify the perpetrators, then where, in fact, they were before and why did not prevent these attacks. It looks like a provocation organized by the Turkish authorities.
        2. 0
          20 February 2016 14: 37
          The logic about Turkish self-attack is in doubt. To prepare a pilot, especially a modern one, is worth the cost and time and financial costs. So flyers are not scattered. Now, if something simpler had been blown up, there was a security unit, or something cheaper, then yes ... And here the clarity of actions, good intelligence, an expensive target, all as if by notes. They haven’t taken off yet, but already such losses! Air force!
          1. +1
            20 February 2016 19: 08
            Quote: ankir13
            The logic about Turkish self-attack is in doubt. It’s worth the cost of training a pilot, especially a modern one.


            That's how it is ... It would be nice to find out political orientation dead! But many people do not like Erdogad’s armies very much - or have you already forgotten about the mass purges that he perpetrated in the Turkish army?
            And who knows, did not any of the dead plan to bomb on Erdogad? Remember the circumstances of the death of Sadat!
            1. 0
              21 February 2016 00: 57
              And who knows, did not any of the dead plan to bomb on Erdogad? Remember the circumstances of the death of Sadat!

              There is a little different. Anwar Sadat is a secular dictator who has established diplomatic relations with Israel. That is, he recognized Israel. His murder was organized by the Muslim brothers. And in Turkey, Erdogan is the most important Muslim brother hi

              But many people do not like Erdogad’s armies very much - or have you already forgotten about the mass purges that he perpetrated in the Turkish army?

              During Erdogan’s stay in power, and he has been Prime Minister since 2003, Turkey’s economic situation has improved significantly. And this means that Erdogan was able to spend many times more on the army than his predecessors. And it is very advantageously distinguished and distinguishes it from its predecessors. That is, the Turkish army was bought elementarily. Therefore, Erdogan rather calmly arrested the generals, knowing that the mass of colonels, wanting to take their places with huge salaries, would support him. And the colonels are breathing majors in the back.
              Therefore, the Turkish army so swallowed and swallows the arrests of the generals.
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      3. +1
        20 February 2016 10: 24
        I wonder if there were flyers there who shot down our dryer? if so, then congratulations to the FSB and the SVR.
      4. +3
        20 February 2016 11: 30
        It’s not my fault that the minus slapped (see below). Their news was more sensible; a car with a suicide bomber crashed into a bus of a military convoy (convoy) at the buildings of their command and military dormitories. Of course, this is not ours, not Putin’s subversive method.
        By the way, I hope many people find it interesting to read the comments of ordinary people around the world. As it turned out, there is no particular fuss about Russia, in contrast to the assessments addressed to them by our cheers patriots and the cries of their media. From the whole heap I got just one comment about the villain Putin and I included him in the selection. The rest assess the situation adequately

        Carlton West, Atlanta, United States, 1 day ago
        Erdogan cannot keep Turkey safe. Time for regime change.
        Erdogan cannot keep Turkey safe. Time to change the mode.

        preacher (preacher) john, sheffield, United Kingdom, 1 day ago
        We had better pray that Turkey remains stable. If war with Russia should happen Europe can expect eight million new refugees. Putin would love that, he will have destroyed Europe without using a single soldier or bullet against us.
        We better pray that Turkey would remain stable. If a war with Russia happens, eighty million new refugees can expect Europe. Putin will like it, he will have destroyed Europe, without using a single soldier or bullet against us.

        Andrew, Cheltenham, (England) 1 day ago
        Don't forget Turkey is in NATO, so as our allies we have to support them. We were dragged into defending them when they shot down a Rusian fighter jet. Now their triggetr happy president is going to go off and find someone to release his army on to. It is bad enough when our government gets our forces involved in military action they shouldn't be there for, but we could have a loose cannon forcing us to make decisions we really do not want to.
        Do not forget, Turkey is in NATO, since they are our allies, we must support them. We were embroiled in their defense when they shot down a Russian fighter. Now their warlike president is about to go on a campaign and find someone to send his army onto him. It is very bad when our government draws our forces to participate in hostilities, where they should not be, but we were able to get hold of unpredictable adventurers forcing us to make decisions that we really do not want.

        Horatio Nelson Jnr, Dubai, UAE, 1 day ago
        Erdogan will blame the Kurds, the US / NATO will support him, then they will blame Russia for supporting the Kurds fight against ISIS whilst Turkey fights Kurds and invades Syria. It all stacks up. The US want Assad out of Syria more than they want to defend against ISIS and they need to maintain their fiction that Russia is everyone's enemy.
        Erdogan will blame the Kurds, the US / NATO will support him, then they will blame Russia for supporting the Kurdish struggle against ISIS, while Turkey is fighting the Kurds and invading Syria. Everything is superimposed. The United States wants to expel Assad from Syria more than they want to defend themselves against ISIS, and they must maintain their fiction that Russia is everyone’s enemy.

        Well, here, somewhere in this context.
    5. 0
      20 February 2016 09: 07
      They also have colleagues, "to the west" of us:
    6. +1
      20 February 2016 09: 40
      If we adapt the well-known maxim about "look and the abyss" to the current political situation in the BV, then we get:

      "If you are friends with terrorists for a long time, the terrorists will begin to" befriend "you!"
    7. 0
      20 February 2016 10: 39
      And how much can you flirt with terrorists and kill Kurds? Here is the result.
    8. 0
      20 February 2016 13: 58
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Let them say thanks to Erdogan.

      Well, in Turkey, the last decades of terrorist attacks. This country has been living for a long time with terrorist attacks and in this regard they are used to it.
  2. +21
    20 February 2016 06: 11
    Can Turkish citizens remove Erdogan, will it not be so scary?
  3. +5
    20 February 2016 06: 12
    when the Turkish special services, and then Erdogan, promptly accuse a terrorist attack of a Syrian citizen - a fighter of the military wing of the Democratic Union Party, this frankly looks like a provocation arranged at the direction of the authorities "

    There is still a need to look - who in these circumstances is more profitable to commit this terrorist attack.
    1. -7
      20 February 2016 06: 30
      Kurdistan Workers Party claimed responsibility for the explosion.
      1. +11
        20 February 2016 08: 06
        Quote: AdekvatNICK
        Kurdistan Workers Party claimed responsibility for the explosion.

        No, I didn’t.
        Members of the Kurdistan Freedom Hawks group said the attack was a response to President Tayyip Recep Erdogan’s policies regarding the Kurds, reports Reuters

        This grouping is not associated with the PKK.
        We have collected intelligence in connection with the terrorist attack. At the moment, we can say with accuracy that the members of the People’s Self-Defense Forces terrorist group (SNA, Syrian Kurds) who came from Syria and are associated with the separatist terrorist organization operating in Turkey (Kurdistan Workers Party, PKK) are responsible for the attack

        Davivouglu is lying.
        From another site:
        Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu blamed the fighting wing of the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PDS) for the terrorist attack in Ankara. “At night, we received information from our intelligence services. The perpetrators of the attack are known. These are people associated with the self-defense forces of the combat wing of the PDS. The direct perpetrator of the attack was the Syrian Salih Nejar

        Davivuglu is lying again - on the move he blames everyone whom he would like to blame.
        In fact, the perpetrator of the attack, according to representatives of the group, was a 26-year-old Turkish citizen, a native of the city of Van in the east of the country. But Davivuglu doesn’t care, he needs to blame the PDS, the PKK and Syrian citizens to justify Turkey to justify the military operations against the Kurds, as well as legitimize a possible military invasion of Syria.
        1. -1
          20 February 2016 09: 06
          and what's that ? took on people who are associated with the PKK
          1. +2
            20 February 2016 09: 16
            Quote: AdekvatNICK
            and what's that ? took on people who are associated with the PKK

            CAIRO, 19 Feb - RIA Novosti, Rafael Daminov. The Kurdish group "Freedom Hawks of Kurdistan", which claimed responsibility for the explosion in Ankara, has nothing to do with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and the Democratic Union Party, director of the Kurdish Research Center Nawaf Khalil told RIA Novosti.

            According to an expert living in Germany and a former official representative of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PDU), the Kurdistan Freedom Hawks group "is not the first time to carry out actions in Turkey."

            "However, the PKK has always emphasized that it has nothing to do with them. Moreover, the Democratic Union Party, which cannot afford military action outside the borders, has nothing to do with it, since its goal is a political struggle in western Kurdistan and in Syria. ", - said Nawaf Khalil.

            http://ria.ru/world/20160219/1377461176.html
            1. 0
              20 February 2016 09: 30
              from the news damn took like you By the way the source is the same. And you put the cons.

              http://ria.ru/world/20160219/1377430165.html

              The attack on a military convoy in Ankara was a revenge for the situation in southeastern Turkey, according to the Kurdish Freedom Hawks of Kurdistan.
              1. +1
                20 February 2016 10: 49
                [quote = AdekvatNICK] from the news damn took like you By the way the source is the same. And you put the cons.
                News is news, but what experts say is worth reading. News from the Turkish media is usually stupidly copied by all agencies - it’s immediately clear what will be written there, the Kurds with the media are somehow worse off and therefore the situation is covered somewhat one-sidedly.
                Py Sy.
                I did not minus if that. smile In general, I try not to abuse the grades.
          2. +4
            20 February 2016 10: 38
            And what's that? Erdogan took over
    2. -1
      20 February 2016 08: 31
      Quote: venaya
      There is still a need to look - who in these circumstances is more profitable to commit this terrorist attack.

      Well, considering that 22 Turkish professional military pilots were killed in the bus (see above), then in this context it would be useful to speculate about "Putin's very long arm", especially over the hill. It would be very interesting if, for example, the State Department would join these arguments (but they won't want to, Psaki doesn't have enough for them).
      1. +2
        20 February 2016 09: 46
        The ISIL-Daesh "Silk Road" to Turkey across the border is now blocked, they now have nowhere to drain their stolen oil, and this is a strong blow to the economy of the Caliphate, while Turkey still does not dare to make a corridor again for Daesh oil tankers in the Kurdish-Serial-Russian wall in the north of Syria. Why this terrorist attack cannot be news from ISIS, who are hinting to Erdogan that business is still suffering and it would be nice to do something about it!
      2. +1
        20 February 2016 15: 04
        poor gdp .. everyone wants to hang on him ... and ukriya and turks ... although these themselves brought to a pen ... or just not enough mind for something else
      3. 0
        21 February 2016 01: 04
        22 Turkish military professional pilots

        Professional pilots in such a crowd in one bus can only travel from the flight camp where they live to the airfield. The fact that all the victims were active pilots, and even more so "professionals" - is just an assumption. Nevertheless, there is a more or less suitable analogue to this explosion. I gave it above.
  4. +3
    20 February 2016 06: 12
    Used to live in fear

    Hello Oleg.

    Yes, the Turks live in fear. But questions about their safety, let them address their Erdogan.
    1. +3
      20 February 2016 07: 24
      Quote: aszzz888
      Yes, the Turks live in fear. But questions about their safety, let them address their Erdogan.

      Well, yes, who else? Are you sure that the tone of their questions will be "Deal with these Kurds already. Tear them the fuck up."
      When authorities call the direct culprit, the masses demand his blood, not power.
  5. +1
    20 February 2016 06: 20
    The so-called buffer zone is the territory of the SR, we will bomb and defend from the sultanate.
    1. +4
      20 February 2016 06: 24
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The so-called buffer zone is the territory of the Slovak Republic, we will bomb

      Sorry, you'll probably bomb -comments.
      1. +1
        20 February 2016 07: 38
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sorry, you'll probably bomb -comments.

        will be nominated)
        Middle Eastern porridge is definitely the cause of the porridge in the heads of some comrades. They are sincerely convinced that, just in case, it is necessary to bomb everyone and everywhere (especially the heartbreaking cry of a patriotic soul: “so that it doesn’t work, like in 41 !!!”) S-300s were already offered to be supplied to the Kurds, or did I miss it? One smart guy, emnip, wrote about the sun ...
  6. +8
    20 February 2016 06: 25
    Turkey will be blown up from the inside, the Americans, it’s profitable for them now ... I don’t wang, but it will be so.
    1. +3
      20 February 2016 07: 45
      Quote: Telemont
      Turkey will be blown up from inside - americos

      why should you explain this to them?
      Quote: Telemont
      I do not wang, but it will be so.

      and this phrase is generally a stylistic masterpiece laughing
  7. +5
    20 February 2016 06: 26
    Who needs a reason for Turkey’s invasion of Syria ... and the attack was made ... Yes, and Erdogan must prove that the Kurds are terrorists, especially against the background of his recent US reproaches when he told the Americans either me or the Kurds ..
    1. +10
      20 February 2016 06: 31
      The death toll in Ankara amounted to 28 people, said a representative of the Turkish government, Numan Kurtulmush. 61 people were injured.


      ERDOGAN’s terror policy against Syria has returned to TURKEY boomerang ... that’s natural.

      I can’t imagine that TURKEY’s invasion of Syria will somehow solve this problem ... rather, on the contrary.
      The scale of the explosions, killings, shelling of all against all will only increase .... this PANDORA box which ERDOGAN himself opened ... in general, I think the dynamics of the deterioration of the situation are only growing.
      The UN Security Council turned into a tug of war championship and it completely lost its leverage over this region ... all this is bad, very bad as it creates the preconditions for a full-scale war between states in this region.
  8. +12
    20 February 2016 06: 29
    Yes, the Turks live in fear. But questions about their safety, let them address their Erdogan.
    And in my opinion, they still did not live in fear, it seems to them so. Still ahead. That's when they shake most of the Kurds with their cruelty, and when the Kurds, leaving the internal clashes, take up the Turks in an adult way, then they will find out what fear is.
    1. +4
      20 February 2016 06: 44
      Quote: Black
      .That, when they shake most of the Kurds with their cruelty, and when the Kurds, leaving the internal clashes, take up the Turks in an adult way, then they will know what fear is.

      This is not fear, there will be fear when Russian missiles begin to fly over their heads. Then they won’t have time to run to the toilet.
  9. +1
    20 February 2016 06: 34
    This attack was organized by Turkey in order to give occasion to Erdogan to send troops to the SAR. For this, troops have long been concentrated on the border with Syria. It is not for nothing that the Turkish special services, and then Erdogan, are promptly accused of a terrorist attack against a Syrian citizen - a fighter of the Democratic Union Party’s military wing, this frankly looks like a provocation arranged at the direction of the authorities.
    1. -1
      20 February 2016 07: 26
      http://warfiles.ru/109365-yastreby-svobody-kurdistana-vzyali-na-sebya-otvetstven
      nost-za-terakt-v-ankare.html

      Read here
      1. +2
        20 February 2016 09: 22
        The group “Free hawks of Kurdistan” is an extremist wing of the PKK, and in any family it’s not without a freak. This frankly looks like a provocation arranged with the filing of Erdogan and K. (For what this is done, I described above).
  10. +4
    20 February 2016 06: 36
    Dear, this is how Turkey will act without aviation, a ground invasion, but the goal is somewhat different, this is a provocation, we will begin to destroy, which means the threat of war and the howl of the West, increased aid to Turkey, increased political weight that Erdogan has lost, we will not destroy this We will see the "buffer zone" in the Damascus region about the act that was carried out against the military personnel, just that indicates the Kurds, despite the fact that on the eve of the acts of terrorism, the Kurds warned, do not stop the shelling, there will be acts of terrorism in the cities of Turkey, suppose Turkish special services, then where there is an invasion, or "plan a new terror act", I see no reason, to blow up and there is nothing not to do, the same with ISIS, there are of course thugs, but they will not hit the giver's hand
    1. +1
      20 February 2016 08: 00
      Quote: 31rus
      is a provocation, let's begin to destroy,

      and why should we "begin to destroy" them? Our goals in Syria, you know, are not border guards. The Turks will come in - so what? The boom in the UN and the rat race in NATO will begin. We will not bomb anyone until us they will not give a reason. And the Kurds are not a reason.
    2. +4
      20 February 2016 08: 32
      Sorry, but this will not work.
      The Kurdish militia seems to have already been given out grenade launchers, so that the tank columns will remain where they can crawl. Someone here wrote that the Kurds may not have a second chance. Or now, or never. So they will stand to death.
      1. 0
        20 February 2016 08: 46
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        So they will stand to death.

        I also pay tribute to the Kurdish militia, but did not understand about
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        it will not work

        What did you mean?
  11. +1
    20 February 2016 06: 41
    Please translate the proverb to Erdogan "- the wind that visits will reap the storm" - its meaning is already understood, judging by what is happening in Turkey.
    1. +3
      20 February 2016 07: 34
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      -the wind who visits will reap the storm "

      Sowing the wind .. "Tempest" will have a hard time .. well - not the first time! The Turks really want to prove that they are cooler than 1941 Germany. And until they get it, they won't calm down, it seems.
      1. +1
        20 February 2016 08: 30
        Quote: avia1991
        that they are cooler than 1941 Germany.

        and why Germany, and why the 41st? some kind of stupid analogy.
    2. -1
      20 February 2016 08: 07
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      the proverb "the wind that visits will reap the storm" - its meaning is already understood

      apparently only to you laughing
      esoteria ...
  12. +3
    20 February 2016 06: 55
    If the explosion was organized by the Kurds, then this is not a terrorist attack, but a sabotage, because it was directed against the military, and in particular the pilots. Eligible for Turkish bombs. And if the Turks themselves arranged it, then obviously in order not to fight, for which country is preparing to get into large-scale hostilities will reduce the number of its own flyers.
    1. +7
      20 February 2016 07: 13
      score 22: 1 ... satisfied ... almost ... am no gloating — just satisfaction — like the ruins of the Reichstag ...
    2. -3
      20 February 2016 07: 27
      Quote: maxbrov74
      If the explosion was organized by the Kurds, then this is not a terrorist attack, but a sabotage, because it was directed against the military

      terminology guru laughing
  13. +1
    20 February 2016 07: 22
    Quote: AdekvatNICK
    Kurdistan Workers Party claimed responsibility for the explosion.


    Where did the firewood come from ??? Link to lay out would not hurt. No need to read the headlines if you are not going to read the material.
    The group “Free hawks of Kurdistan” is an extremist wing of the PKK, and in any family it’s not without a freak.
    1. +1
      20 February 2016 07: 36
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Where did the firewood come from ???

      The media really stuttered about it yesterday. But then again: this could be stuffing what
      1. -8
        20 February 2016 08: 08
        Quote: avia1991
        The media really stuttered about it yesterday.

        stuttering media? This is a speech therapist.
    2. 0
      20 February 2016 07: 50
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Where did the firewood come from ??? Link to lay out would not hurt. No need to read headlines

      you know what's funny? The insertion about "22 pilots", made by a garbage Istanbul TV channel, on which there is nowhere to put a yellow mark, is accepted immediately and categorically. And the stuff that casts a shadow on the reputation of the PKK (lambs! Almost saints ...) requires proof?
      1. +3
        20 February 2016 09: 14
        Training a modern fighter pilot costs more than an airplane. And a group of high-class specialists, like sheep being carried in buses by hundreds ?! If so, then the main beneficiary in this situation is Russia. I agree with Zeppelin Jr., throwing clean water.
  14. +2
    20 February 2016 07: 22
    The degree of tension is growing every day. Point of no return passed. But whether the situation will remain within the framework of a local conflict, or will splash around the world - we will see.
  15. +3
    20 February 2016 07: 37
    We forgot about the opposition to Erdogan in the Turkish army itself. The army DOES NOT WANT to go into this adventure in Syria conceived by Erdogan. And here is terracotta with brutal losses among the MILITARY. A purely eastern approach - bloody provocations. So hundreds of years ago, the Ottomans raised a Janissary for another war, for one having surrendered some vizier to them for reprisal ...
    1. +2
      20 February 2016 07: 54
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      We forgot about the opposition to Erdogan in the Turkish army itself.

      oh well) Erdie, in vain, did he purge the army?
    2. +2
      20 February 2016 09: 25
      The army WANTS, Erdogan managed to carry out a general cleaning there.
  16. +4
    20 February 2016 07: 41
    Well, they are afraid, so what? Let us recall the terrorist attacks all over Russia and in Moscow in particular during the well-known campaigns in Chechnya organized by the so-called "rebels", whom the West encouraged, and the specialists from Turkey and the Middle East fed. Why are the Turkish authorities sprinkling ashes on their heads now, perhaps in order to get more bonuses from "friends" and bargain for preferences. Instead of whining, you need to look in the mirror. We were not afraid or crying, but simply resisted.
  17. +3
    20 February 2016 07: 48
    Video topic:



    There are also many opinions and disputes. Interesting.
  18. +4
    20 February 2016 07: 49
    The Turkish government has banned media reports about the attack. And according to the Azerbaijani media reports
    in the February 17 terrorist attack in Ankara killed 22 pilots of the Turkish Air Force, who were taken on a bus to the General Staff.
    Apparently the commanding staff. And one more news on Life News, the Americans have stopped using the B-1 in Syria, and will be ferrying them to the United States for revision of the cockpit.
    1. -2
      20 February 2016 08: 05
      Quote: askort154
      And according to the Azerbaijani media reports
      in the February 17 terrorist attack in Ankara killed 22 pilots of the Turkish Air Force

      curious - what if Turkish journalists from the small-town Ulke TV came up with "22 submariners" or, God forbid, "22 quartermasters" who were going to the General Staff for a planning meeting to provide troops with socks and mats for prayer?
  19. Riv
    +4
    20 February 2016 08: 06
    An old Russian proverb: "Give the wolf your hand - he will bite off both." Erdogan played with terrorists for too long. Now, even if he wants to stop, it won't work. Well, as in a joke: "- What should I give you for your birthday? A book? Read and forget. Cake? Eat and forget. We decided to make you p ... som. You will forget, but PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER!"

    And on the subject of the entry of Turkish troops into Syria, a lot of caviar has been scheduled. We will not increase the masonry. But note that having a civil war with your own Kurds to climb to a showdown to strangers, across the border is stupid.
  20. +7
    20 February 2016 08: 14
    The Turks are pushing and waiting for the end of the Northern Thunder. The Arab League troops have settled well ... They will come to fight in Syria, they have in their arsenal the whole range of weapons from crooked knives to F-15. Even in the press they brazenly announced that they would start another week If the general command is assumed by the United States, and they are not NATO ... And all Syria's statements about the inadmissibility of military aggression remain unheard. Well, but I have no idea how to wage a full-fledged war with this cannibalistic coalition ... We play on someone else's field, communications can cut. We have no operational depth (and even with modern means of destruction). What pressure will our Mediterranean squadron be under? I see nothing possible, except how to inflict a crushing stopping blow. At first, warning - with ordinary explosives. , and then prepare the only acceptable. Although I suppose that a full-scale and fleeting war may not exist. The coalition will gain a foothold in the points available to it (so as not to strongly engage in battle with Assadand not to anger our VKS) and will try, by strengthening all these dushmans, to stabilize the front. And continue the war to deplete Assad. The fighters will be disguised as "rebels" and all other methods with this nature of the war.
    1. +1
      20 February 2016 09: 19
      The Russian General Staff also reported that the attacks by the Kalibr NK cruise missiles on IS targets were coordinated in advance with partners in the Syrian operation.
      And if you do not communicate and do not agree, then what is the result? flew in and exploded! And where from?
  21. +1
    20 February 2016 08: 23
    Quote: Riv
    And on the subject of the entry of Turkish troops into Syria, a lot of caviar has been scheduled. We will not increase the masonry. But note that having a civil war with your own Kurds to climb to a showdown to strangers, across the border is stupid.

    Not really. The logic, in essence, is simple - the PKK is a territorial organization, "soaking in the toilet", therefore, can be done without taking into account the administrative boundaries. Another thing is what goals are pursued in addition to locking the bearded in toilets. The chair under Erdi is quite liquid, despite NATO's mutual responsibility, a strong migrant argument and the Russophobic factor. However, he does not particularly risk anything, setting up his buffer zones, except for the escalation of partisanism.
  22. 0
    20 February 2016 08: 46
    And what kind of communications will they cut us? Do we have a front line, ground forces or a railway? There are "Calibers", there are "Suns" after which the scorched earth remains. The straits will not close, we have the key in our pocket. Stop whining. Nobody will do anything. I do not call for war, and to be honest, there is no one. All these squeals of the mighty Tribals and Pshek (great fighters against monuments), like other Europeans, are about nothing.
    All of them, both states and Europeans, are used to fighting with aviation (with this they just have a bummer because of our fighters and the S-400), and they are afraid to go on the attack.
    So don't be scared. And then, as I listen to some liberals like Boris Nadezhdin, so all the mascaras are light - "the client leaves, the plaster is removed."
  23. 0
    20 February 2016 08: 46
    Most likely, their own special services "tried". Here the question is different. Imagine that Erdogan still flooded on Syria. Will our VKS be ordered to open fire to kill? Or will we try again? I now doubt something about our elites (although what kind of "our" they are). They will not aggravate with the West ...
  24. +1
    20 February 2016 08: 51
    The earth burns under the feet of the adversary ...
  25. +1
    20 February 2016 09: 01
    French President allows war between Russia and Turkey
    Read how - the French President wants a war between Russia and Turkey. If this is the case, then the interested parties will jump like Ukrainians on the Maidan.
  26. 0
    20 February 2016 09: 02
    The attack occurred near the buildings of the command of the Air Force and Navy, the General Staff, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the parliament building and the hostel of the military. Terrorists blew up a car filled with explosives. According to the representative of the Turkish government Numan Kurtulmush, 28 people died as a result of the explosion. According to other sources, the death toll is more than 30.

    another thing is strange, why the next blow fell on the army, not the office where the Justice and Development Party is located, not against Milli İstihbarat Teşkilatı, but against the army ...
    extremely "strange" symptom
  27. 0
    20 February 2016 09: 22
    Visual action of the proverb: "do not dig another hole". Turkey has its own "free Ichkeria" financed from abroad. Indeed, debt payment is terrible.
    1. 0
      20 February 2016 09: 29
      Quote: RomanS
      Truly, debt is terrible in payment.

      there is a different interpretation:
      "pay your debt ... red"
      ))
      and the analogy with the Chechs is quite correct for itself.
      1. 0
        20 February 2016 19: 20
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        there is another interpretation: "pay the debt ... red"


        I have not heard - but the meaning is clear. But the problem is that this did not exempt from payment - it was simply considered as "penalties"! Google "right"
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  28. 0
    20 February 2016 09: 32
    It is strange why Erdogan still has not blamed Russia for these attacks. Didn’t guess what? Or no one to tell? But what about the lop-eared?
    1. 0
      20 February 2016 09: 54
      Quote: triglav
      why Erdogan still has not blamed Russia for these attacks

      This is not done right off the bat. Usually "Putin's hand" is seen after "thorough and objective investigation" laughing
  29. +5
    20 February 2016 10: 13
    barmalei ascend online

  30. 0
    20 February 2016 10: 22
    true uterus from Wolfovich

    1. 0
      20 February 2016 11: 32
      This statement of Zhirik was made at the right time, but not yet ... Learn the methods of a new war, hybrid. What prevents you from equipping several self-driving cars with avatars behind the wheel and sending them to the addresses of the military personnel? And then some other "front" or party will take the terrorist attack upon itself ... Everything is clean and you will not dig in.
  31. 0
    20 February 2016 11: 04
    In a terrorist attack at the General Staff, 22 pilots of the Turkish Air Force died. It seems that the Kurds have fulfilled their promise (someone posted a photo with a poster-revenge for the Russian pilot). This is written in many media. If so, then 22 is a good number.
  32. 0
    20 February 2016 11: 06
    For that fought for it and ran.
  33. +1
    20 February 2016 11: 19
    Turks feel sorry, and Erdogan would be nice to go to jail for thirty years, the guy really skidded. Well, at least I postponed the trip to Azerbaijan. otherwise I would try to drive a wedge into relations between Baku and Moscow
  34. -1
    20 February 2016 11: 44
    They are rightly afraid: Hollande has already declared the war of the Russo-Turkish war as a matter resolved. If the information is reliable, this means that the Turks themselves shot down 22 pilots at once in order to avoid the war, the consequences of which they are afraid of.
    Anyone can stand behind the attack, including Erdogan himself.
    Turkey did not become a terrorist viper yesterday. According to the logic of Erdogan, the Russian Federation in the 1990s was supposed to strike at Turkey, Jordan, KSA, etc.
    1. +1
      20 February 2016 12: 03
      Quote: iouris
      If the information is reliable, this means that the Turks themselves shot down 22 pilots at once in order to avoid the war, the consequences of which they are afraid of.

      such a marasmic interpretation of the duck about the "22 pilots" has not yet been at VO. Well done. Why hasn't it been a marshal until now?
      1. +1
        20 February 2016 13: 10
        Colonel, humbly, around, step march!
  35. 0
    20 February 2016 14: 05
    Fear in the enemy’s camp is good))) but in general you have to think like that before you warm terrorists in your country, they are not adequate. In general, in this case, I'm for igil belay laughing
  36. 0
    20 February 2016 14: 22
    An explosion near the air force headquarters? It is possible the echoes of a downed SU-24.
  37. 0
    20 February 2016 14: 50
    Erdogan and his minions are doing their dirty deed.
  38. 0
    20 February 2016 15: 10
    if this continues, Erdogan will not have long to smoke air
  39. 0
    20 February 2016 21: 20
    Quote: Finches
    Erdogan has no choice! Either he will begin a ground operation in Syria and what God might know will result in it, or Erdogan himself will not be soon!

    In any case, he (Erdogan) will not be, so it is time for him and his family to look for another place of residence. The cases of the latest terrorist attacks indicate that the military did not forgive him for purges, as these are not Kurds and ISIS, which he kisses in the ass! The days of Erdoganokakshki are numbered, no matter how he sprinkles saliva on Syria and Russia! hi