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Israeli developers showcased kamikaze drones in Singapore

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At the Singapore Airshow 2016 air show, Israelis presented one-off impact drone developed by Israel Aerospace Industries.


Israeli developers showcased kamikaze drones in Singapore


The 3 drone was offered to the visitors: Rotem L, Harpy NG and Green Dragon. The developers have described them as "wandering ammunition that explode on contact with the target."

“So, if you install a warhead on a quadrocopter scout Rotem L instead of a surveillance system unit, it can be used as a guided munition. To control the device, which can carry one kilogram of explosives, a tablet computer is used with a communication range of ten kilometers in direct line of sight or 1,5 kilometers in urban areas, ”writes Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

“Harpy NG is a long-range drone bomb whose exact characteristics are kept secret by the manufacturer. According to the description of Internet resources, this drone can work in a completely autonomous mode, independently detecting and striking enemy air defense systems, ”the newspaper notes.

In turn, the Green Dragon drone is a hybrid of a cruise missile and a UAV. According to experts, “after launching from a mobile launcher, the device is able to search for a target for one and a half hours at a distance of 40 kilometers, after which it can approach it and produce an explosion, while its charge capacity is three kilograms.”

The newspaper reminds that in the US Army, drones and UAV hybrids appeared back in 2013. The device was called Switchblade. He has all the functions of a reconnaissance drone, is able to fly remotely and autonomously. Having found the target, the device dives at it and undermines the charge laid in the body of the 2-kg.

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  1. Irokez
    Irokez 18 February 2016 15: 12
    +6
    But nothing. Beautiful, futuristic. True, how much is such a toy.
    1. cap
      cap 18 February 2016 15: 16
      13
      Quote: Irokez
      But nothing. Beautiful, futuristic. True, how much is such a toy.


      No matter how much it costs, it’s important how much the goal it falls into is worth.
      End justifies the means.
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 18 February 2016 15: 34
        +8
        if you reduce this thing at times and send it in a package of 100 pieces, scoring smart stuffing into them ... you get smart flying grenades
        1. What a
          What a 18 February 2016 16: 23
          +1
          And if put on the conveyor, it will be several times cheaper
          1. Throw
            Throw 18 February 2016 20: 26
            +3
            independently detecting and hitting air defense systems
            End justifies the means

            The inflatable C-300 is the perfect target for this drone waffle! laughing
            That’s why the Moscow Region buys them wink
      2. Giant thought
        Giant thought 18 February 2016 16: 36
        +2
        The idea is not bad, and the large-scale use of these products at the same time can bring good results.
    2. vkl-47
      vkl-47 18 February 2016 15: 22
      +7
      and a rocket is not fate to strike. and why a kamikaze drone and not a martyr drone
      1. Altona
        Altona 18 February 2016 15: 33
        +2
        Quote: vkl-47
        and a rocket is not fate to strike. and why a kamikaze drone and not a martyr drone

        -----------------------
        In general, the drone-ace of the Luftwaffe ... They, during the war, waged a wandering hunt.
      2. Lieutenant Izhe
        Lieutenant Izhe 18 February 2016 17: 02
        +4
        and why drone kamikaze and not drone shahid

        "Shahid" is ... NOT KOSHER!
        wassat
      3. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 18 February 2016 20: 14
        0
        Quote: vkl-47
        and a rocket is not fate to strike

        The whole question is price. A drone should be a little cheaper than a rocket. Plus, it can be controlled until the last moment. But frankly, I do not see the massive use of these adaptations. It’s getting expensive. it turns out a medium drone with an explosive charge close in weight with an anti-tank grenade. I believe that this is self-promotion.
    3. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2016 15: 22
      +9
      Drone - kamikaze - the same cruise missile, what's the catch? Well, maybe somewhere freezes and what?
      1. Fregate
        Fregate 18 February 2016 15: 30
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        Drone - kamikaze - the same cruise missile, what's the catch?

        Not really. The drone - kamikaze is the same UAV, it flies slower than the KR and is more maneuverable.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 18 February 2016 15: 43
          +2
          Quote: Fregate
          The drone - kamikaze is the same UAV, it flies slower than the KR and is more maneuverable.

          in fact, it is a one-time UAV used in the trash after being used together with optical and other things))) and as American experts correctly noted ... they say so. - we made smart bombs, stuffed them with modern electronics, and the Russians made smart a plane that uses stupid bombs in a smart way (we installed SP-24 on a plane).
          IMHA
          UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.
          1. Fregate
            Fregate 18 February 2016 16: 06
            +1
            A few months ago at VO there was an article about the development by a Polish company of a similar UAV in 2 versions of the day (warhead 1kg +) and night (700g.). And as they wrote, the cost will be about 1000 euros.
            Quote: Scoun
            UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

            Well I do not know. Maybe in some cases they will be and quite efficiently used.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 18 February 2016 19: 21
              +2
              Quote: Fregate
              A few months ago at VO there was an article about the development by a Polish company of a similar UAV in 2 versions of the day (warhead 1kg +) and night (700g.). And as they wrote, the cost will be about 1000 euros.
              Quote: Scoun
              UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

              Well I do not know. Maybe in some cases they will be and quite efficiently used.

              Americans have been releasing for a long time
            2. oblako
              oblako 19 February 2016 11: 53
              0
              "Shell" canister charge - duck and normal + electronic warfare + IR blinding and let it fly ...
          2. Jack-b
            Jack-b 18 February 2016 16: 47
            0
            Quote: Scoun
            UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

            Depending on its cost and application. In principle, it can be quite inexpensive. Then it could be used, for example, to track down and destroy militants. Getting a bomb or rocket into a jeep or moving oil tanker is hard. But such a device is quite capable. So that he can find application in the fight against terrorists. In a full-scale war, he will probably be drowned out by electronic warfare.
          3. Rumata
            Rumata 18 February 2016 17: 20
            +5
            Quote: Scoun
            UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

            Many will disagree with you. More than once I came across opinions that such drones like these, in the future, will become the main weapon for breaking through layered air defense
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 19 February 2016 09: 52
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              Many will disagree with you.

              + Yes, and they’ll do it right)) in the end, it’s always worth achieving one goal or another, and if the task is to track down and destroy the VIP goal, then it’s justifiable costs, and when used massively, it’s simply ruinous and in any case other parties will begin to look for ways to counter such drones.
              Everything depends on the "dose", either a medicine or a poison. )))
            2. andj61
              andj61 19 February 2016 16: 05
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              More than once I came across opinions that such drones like these, in the future, will become the main weapon for breaking through layered air defense

              Maybe, maybe ... That's just what to do with the use of such drones in the conditions of RB countermeasures, as well as about range?
              And a charge of 2-3 kg of explosives is still not so much ...
      2. Agent_017
        Agent_017 18 February 2016 15: 50
        +7
        The rocket has a high speed, the drone may be less noticeable both in sound and in radar. Yes, and the price is probably ... If it were not profitable, then they would not invest in drones bablosiki ..
        1. Evgeny RS
          Evgeny RS 18 February 2016 16: 54
          0
          Well, why not apply in Aleppo?
          1. Jack-b
            Jack-b 18 February 2016 17: 00
            +1
            Quote: Eugene RS
            Well, why not apply in Aleppo?


            What do the Jews need in Aleppo?
    4. Agent_017
      Agent_017 18 February 2016 15: 45
      0
      Cheaper than a plane to a deck .. But what is smart there? Warhead, motor, program control with a PC, well, maybe a radio module ..
    5. Boos
      Boos 18 February 2016 15: 51
      0
      This is for VIPs! When the end justifies the means ...)
  2. doework
    doework 18 February 2016 15: 13
    +4
    Dangerous "toys" .. especially if there are dozens and hundreds of them
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 18 February 2016 15: 19
      -5
      Another Israeli cartoon?
      An urgent need to give Tel Aviv some kind of movie award, otherwise it will fill up all the resources available to it with low-grade computer animations.
    2. Beaver
      Beaver 18 February 2016 15: 32
      0
      Quote: doework
      Dangerous "toys" .. especially if there are dozens and hundreds of them

      Then they are able to destroy dozens and hundreds of false targets. laughing
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 18 February 2016 15: 46
        +4
        Not all goals are false. The main thing is the effectiveness of the application. Either throw a special group to eliminate the goal, or this kamikaze. Costs can be comparable, and risk - zero.
        1. Beaver
          Beaver 18 February 2016 19: 13
          0
          Quote: Black Colonel
          Not all goals are false. The main thing is the effectiveness of the application.

          As expected, you will have to "chew" your idea.
          http://topwar.ru/90796-pvo-sovetskih-aerodromov-v-gody-voyny.html
          By August 15, there were deployed about 40 false airfields that simulated military activity. As a result, out of 18 raids made by enemy aircraft from August 1 to August 31, 16 were made on false airfields.

          lol And this was done by people who are more difficult to deceive than a dumb piece of iron. What will be the ratio of drone attacked false targets to real? belay What is the effectiveness of the application? No. Maybe about the spectacular? what
          PS At the same time, the real goal is masked and protected as much as possible, while the false one is quite the opposite. hi
          1. amirbek
            amirbek 19 February 2016 06: 10
            0
            Quote: Castor
            Costs can be comparable, and risk - zero

            and most importantly folding ... here the fantasies are endless, you can print on a 3D printer ... slaughter with anything ... for example slaughter like peas with various balls with mines, gas or especially frequency emitters, etc. depending on the task harakiresu
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 18 February 2016 15: 13
    +4
    An interesting idea! Mass production will reduce the cost of the product, but the breadth of use is simply amazing! Such a drone hangs and is waiting in the wings, ready to strike any minute. Our specialists also need to come up with something similar. Now in Syria such UAVs would be very useful
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 18 February 2016 15: 37
      -2
      ..... Now in Syria such UAVs would be very useful ...


      ... In Syria - yes .... And in the context of the RE countermeasures, how ????? .... Where will this toy fly ???? ... lol
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 February 2016 16: 43
        0
        "the conditions of the electronic countermeasures as ?????" ////

        Counter to what? He flies autonomously from the photos embedded in his comp.,
        nobody controls it in any way.
        1. Jack-b
          Jack-b 18 February 2016 16: 54
          +3
          A cruise missile flies through the pictures, and an UAV can patrol the area, search for a target and attack. Naturally under the control of the operator. Therefore, the issue of counteraction is relevant. But I think that this is a cheap device for combating bandits and is not designed to work in the face of opposition.
          1. Ahmed
            Ahmed 19 February 2016 02: 27
            +2
            Quote: Jack-B
            Naturally under the control of the operator ...

            You have not heard about the technology of preprogramming a flight plan? request

            Quote: Jack-B
            But I think that this is a cheap device for combating bandits and is not designed to work in the face of opposition.

            Minor is possible, but Harpy NG is a rather expensive device, specially sharpened to destroy precisely air defense radars, communication centers, and electronic warfare (any electronic warfare is an excellent source of radiation).
        2. mvg
          mvg 18 February 2016 20: 46
          +3
          Counter to what? He flies autonomously from the photos embedded in his comp.,
          nobody controls it in any way.

          Tales .. Draw him another mapping of the area .. And the intellectual definition of false targets and interference ... Anyway, carries artificial intelligence on itself ..
      2. Rumata
        Rumata 18 February 2016 17: 22
        +3
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        ..In Syria - yes .... And in the context of the RE countermeasures, how ????? .... Where will this toy fly ???? ...

        For this reason, such emphasis on autonomy and self-recognition of the target
    2. Agent_017
      Agent_017 18 February 2016 15: 58
      0
      When such toys are in the hands of the operating armies, this is bad, but at least it can be shown in case of aggression. But the trouble is that existing and modern weapons, though not massively, but fall into the hands of the Bashkorez. And in their hands a self-made explosive package is dangerous for civilians ...
    3. doework
      doework 18 February 2016 17: 08
      +2
      In fact, all these "kids" (the so-called "mosquito" troops) can have a great influence on the tactics of limited conflicts:
      1. Technological and inexpensive in the series;
      2. Universal enough;
      3. The use of network-centric technologies and the rudiments of "artificial intelligence" will reduce the effectiveness of the electronic equipment of the target;
      4. Subtle when transporting and using.

      Given the current accessibility of key technologies, terrorists are highly likely weapons. True, for now - suicide bombers with belts are cheaper .., but that's just - for now.
    4. Rostislav
      Rostislav 18 February 2016 17: 16
      0
      And how long can he "hang and wait in the wings"? 60 minutes?
      1. Ahmed
        Ahmed 19 February 2016 02: 32
        +2
        Quote: Rostislav
        And how long can he "hang and wait in the wings"? 60 minutes?

        Harpy NG can barrage for more than 3 hours.
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 18 February 2016 15: 14
    17
    In Ukrainians steeper. They have one-time SU-25.
    1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 February 2016 16: 08
      +7
      Karavan - They have a one-time country. ..
  5. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 18 February 2016 15: 14
    0
    I wonder how much it costs? It would not be bad to launch something similar from the MLRS Smerch.
  6. igorspb
    igorspb 18 February 2016 15: 16
    +1
    and for this drone on the roof of the target mark draw necessarily?)))
    1. Agent_017
      Agent_017 18 February 2016 16: 10
      +3
      Of course! Drones when they see targets, they understand that this is a fraudulent target and look for a target only without a target ...))) wassat
  7. denni
    denni 18 February 2016 15: 20
    0
    But in fact, is it just a cruise missile?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 February 2016 16: 44
      +2
      Yes, it's a mini cruise missile.
    2. Jack-b
      Jack-b 18 February 2016 16: 50
      +1
      No, he can barrage in anticipation and search for a target and then attack. Cruise missiles are not capable of this.
      1. Ahmed
        Ahmed 19 February 2016 02: 37
        0
        Quote: Jack-B
        No, he can barrage in anticipation and search for a target and then attack. Cruise missiles are not capable of this.


        Who decided that? belay Here is an example of a barrage of the Kyrgyz Republic.

        Delilah cruise missile
  8. Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 February 2016 15: 22
    +2
    In the Zaporozhye region. a warehouse with ammunition was burning. UkroSMI say that with the help of drones they set fire to "unknown" persons.
  9. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 18 February 2016 15: 25
    +4
    How is it different from a rocket?
    “So, if you install a warhead on the Rotem L reconnaissance quadrocopter instead of a surveillance system unit, it can be used as a guided munition. To control the device, which can carry one kilogram of explosives, a tablet computer with a communication range of ten kilometers with direct visibility or 1,5 kilometers in urban areas is used ”

    The missile, the same aircraft carrying the warhead and targeting means, when shifted towards "intelligence" can be controlled from the Control Post.
    P.S. There are missiles that are induced by radiation that make air defense posts.

    Based
    Green Dragon drone is a hybrid of a cruise missile and UAV

    All in all, this missile was tied to an UAV and that’s it.

    How to resist? Watch while driving / before scanning for scanned sector frequencies. Indeed, in order to catch something, he must detect active radiation and receive a reflected signal (or void) ((do not confuse void and reflected signal))
    P.S. Yes, I am not specially educated, but thanks to the physics teacher of my school who was able to drive at least a minimum of knowledge into my head.
  10. Riv
    Riv 18 February 2016 15: 26
    0
    The weapon of terror. Suddenly attack a separate car, house, group of people. There are no other applications for such drones and cannot be.

    But what can one expect from the Jews?
    1. Chisayna
      Chisayna 18 February 2016 15: 34
      0
      They have Kaiten. Such a bird just right for him.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 18 February 2016 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      The weapon of terror.

      Moreover, the weapon of terror against the underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and of course Gaza.
      Israel again actually creates weapons not of a warrior but of a simple killer.
      1. slot
        slot 18 February 2016 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Moreover, the weapon of terror against the underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and of course Gaza.

        Oh-yo-yo-yo-yo. So sad for them. You need to pray less, and develop more knowledge and high-tech industries.
      2. atalef
        atalef 18 February 2016 17: 13
        +6
        Quote: quilted jacket
        against underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt Syria Jordan Lebanon

        I have little agreement with you. but here on all 100%. underdeveloped.
        Because you need to learn and work. and not forehead on 5 once a day to knock out rugs and yell - Allah to the bar !!!!!
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 18 February 2016 17: 26
          0
          Quote: slot
          Less need to be prayed, and more to learn and develop high-tech industries.

          Quote: atalef
          Because you need to learn and work.


          Or you just need to learn to "steal" technology from all over the world and beg for donations like Israel does.
          1. slot
            slot 18 February 2016 19: 05
            +1
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Or you just need to learn to "steal" technology from all over the world and beg for donations like Israel does.

            It’s also not a bad thing, the main thing is to approach it wisely, and then Bush should live like in chocolate. And then, where did you see a Jew who will not cut what lies badly.
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      3. Ahmed
        Ahmed 19 February 2016 02: 48
        0
        Quote: quilted jacket
        the weapon of terror against the underdeveloped countries ...
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 February 2016 16: 59
      +1
      for riv

      "Weapon of terror. Suddenly attack an individual car, house, group of people" ///

      No, against individual Islamist commanders (or small
      groups) there are special mini-guided missiles with a charge of 0.5 - 3 kg,
      launched either from the ground or from the air. And they have been repeatedly (and successfully) used.

      And Harpy with 30 kg of strong explosives, in principle, were designed for guaranteed
      destruction of large air defense radars. They are not allowed one by one, of course, but by a group
      for every radar.
    4. Ahmed
      Ahmed 19 February 2016 02: 42
      +2
      Quote: Riv
      There are no other applications for such drones and cannot be.

      Quote: Jack-B
      But I think that this is a cheap device for combating bandits and is not designed to work in the face of opposition.

      Harpy NG is a pretty expensive device, specially sharpened to destroy precisely air defense radars, communication centers, and electronic warfare (any electronic warfare is an excellent source of radiation).


      Quote: Riv
      But what can one expect from the Jews?
  11. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 18 February 2016 15: 26
    +4
    kamikaze, it’s not very Jewish. I wouldn’t trust such a machine, it could change its mind at any time.
  12. Peter endo
    Peter endo 18 February 2016 15: 27
    +4
    Today, about such a drone bombed an ammunition depot in Zaporozhye.
  13. Massik
    Massik 18 February 2016 15: 34
    0
    There will always be a risk of seizure of control and not the fact that the same drones will not blow up the place from where they were released.
  14. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 18 February 2016 15: 35
    +2
    Israeli developers showcased kamikaze drones in Singapore
    I got the idea, and if the Russian programmers recode this drone, as it was already in the Crimea and sent back home))) Israeli scientists did not think about this ?!
    1. Ahmed
      Ahmed 19 February 2016 02: 52
      +2
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      The thought came to me, and if this drone is RUSSIAN programmers re-encode ...
  15. tchoni
    tchoni 18 February 2016 15: 36
    0
    Interesting idea. But not new. Scientists for about forty years have already rolled around the idea of ​​"smart" minefields, with active mines ...
  16. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 February 2016 15: 36
    +1
    And the drones will surely shout Allah Abkar "? fool
    1. Agent_017
      Agent_017 18 February 2016 16: 15
      0
      Israeli drones will not scream like that, they will scream - ShoLem alAiham! Hello)! ('Peace be upon you')
  17. Oleg1080
    Oleg1080 18 February 2016 15: 39
    +1
    X..nya, PR, let's repaint our rockets in red, maybe they will sell better or in blue. laughing
    1. Agent_017
      Agent_017 18 February 2016 16: 22
      +1
      It’s better to decorate with rhinestones, although women will join in the purchase of colorful rockets, they will sell more and more ..
  18. Gunther
    Gunther 18 February 2016 15: 42
    +1
    Quote: Primus Pilus
    I wonder how much it costs? It would not be bad to launch something similar from the MLRS Smerch.

    Russia, together with China, is already developing a rocket for the MLRS, carrying an unmanned aerial vehicle, and the combat effectiveness of a MLRS + unmanned aerial vehicle is an order of magnitude higher than the Israeli pepelats.
    1. Ahmed
      Ahmed 19 February 2016 03: 22
      +1
      Quote: Gunter
      Well, the combat effectiveness of the MLRS + drone is an order of magnitude higher than the Israeli pepelats presented ...


      This is so touching when shkolota begins to compare systems of different orders. laughing
  19. anatomicum
    anatomicum 18 February 2016 15: 50
    0
    Just an idea. But what if we reduce all this to the size of a grenade, equip it with a primitive thermal imager and use it against manpower in a certain radius?
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 18 February 2016 16: 57
      0
      expensive!! read about guided missiles - very expensive!
  20. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 18 February 2016 16: 55
    +1
    Law enforcement officers, consisting of six people, had to search the streets of the "Capital of Culture" for more than fifty naked Africans. This ended the "mass gathering of the tribe" in one of the baths of the Petrograd district, the newspaper writes .... from "Zvezda" ... they ran away from the baths .. hot .. laughing
  21. Cobra77
    Cobra77 18 February 2016 17: 25
    -1
    What is the difference from a cruise missile? In delivery speed?
  22. Rumata
    Rumata 18 February 2016 17: 32
    +4
    I will add. Rotem L is compact, fits in a regular backpack and worn on the back. Need one operator, launch in a couple of minutes. I liked the range of 10km.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 18 February 2016 17: 44
      +4
      Quote: Rumata
      I will add. Rotem L is compact, fits in a regular backpack and worn on the back. Need one operator, launch in a couple of minutes. I liked the range of 10km.

      Of all the products in Singapore, I liked it the most.
  23. drlalex
    drlalex 18 February 2016 17: 45
    0
    What a fantasy field for aircraft makers. So I knew that it was not in vain that the union had so many model-making circles :)
    In theory, such a thing should cost much cheaper than a rocket, and it works more energy efficiently (easier engine, ACS, more tolerances).
  24. mvg
    mvg 18 February 2016 20: 48
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: quilted jacket
    against underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt Syria Jordan Lebanon

    I have little agreement with you. but here on all 100%. underdeveloped.
    Because you need to learn and work. and not forehead on 5 once a day to knock out rugs and yell - Allah to the bar !!!!!

    They beat out the dust ... why do you not like Araps so much?
  25. vglazunov
    vglazunov 18 February 2016 20: 51
    +1
    However kosher drone hi
  26. Conscience
    Conscience 18 February 2016 23: 40
    +1
    here such in the Donbass - gifts for those who like to shoot from howitzers, land on boxes with ammunition
  27. corporal
    corporal 19 February 2016 06: 06
    0
    All those present missed one important point - how to deal with it?
    No one imagined what to do if this garbage flies into the window of the apartment, or sits on the roof of a car, even if not the first one, but 3-4-5-6 -..., etc., persons of the state? You won’t get enough of all the air defense systems.
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 19 February 2016 10: 12
    0
    But did they check these drones for work against our electronic warfare equipment?
    I won’t be surprised if ours can not only intercept them,
    but also send back.
  29. Mentat
    Mentat 19 February 2016 15: 54
    0
    Quote: Rumata
    Quote: Scoun
    UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

    Many will disagree with you. More than once I came across opinions that such drones like these, in the future, will become the main weapon for breaking through layered air defense

    Separated air defense means means of defense of near range. How can they, at least theoretically, be overcome by such a low-speed, low-maneuvering product?
  30. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 20 February 2016 21: 43
    0
    Whack 9. what for this suicide chassis? say the divine wind?