Israeli developers showcased kamikaze drones in Singapore

At the Singapore Airshow 2016, the Israelis presented "disposable" drums drones developed by Israel Aerospace Industries.

The 3 drone was offered to the visitors: Rotem L, Harpy NG and Green Dragon. The developers have described them as "wandering ammunition that explode on contact with the target."

“So, if you install a warhead on a quadrocopter scout Rotem L instead of a surveillance system unit, it can be used as a guided munition. To control the device, which can carry one kilogram of explosives, a tablet computer is used with a communication range of ten kilometers in direct line of sight or 1,5 kilometers in urban areas, ”writes Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

“Harpy NG is a long-range drone bomb whose exact characteristics are kept secret by the manufacturer. According to the description of Internet resources, this drone can work in a completely autonomous mode, independently detecting and striking enemy air defense systems, ”the newspaper notes.

In turn, the Green Dragon drone is a hybrid of a cruise missile and a UAV. According to experts, “after launching from a mobile launcher, the device is able to search for a target for one and a half hours at a distance of 40 kilometers, after which it can approach it and produce an explosion, while its charge capacity is three kilograms.”

The newspaper recalls that in the US Army, hybrids of drones with UAVs appeared back in 2013. The device was called Switchblade. It has all the features drone-scout, capable of flying in remote piloting mode and autonomously. Having found the target, the device dives on it and undermines the 2-kg charge embedded in the body.

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[Irokez]

But nothing. Beautiful, futuristic. True, how much is such a toy.

[cap]

Quote: Irokez

But nothing. Beautiful, futuristic. True, how much is such a toy.

No matter how much it costs, it’s important how much the goal it falls into is worth.
End justifies the means.

[amirbek]

if you reduce this thing at times and send it in a package of 100 pieces, scoring smart stuffing into them ... you get smart flying grenades

[What a]

And if put on the conveyor, it will be several times cheaper

[Throw]

independently detecting and hitting air defense systems
End justifies the means

The inflatable C-300 is the perfect target for this drone waffle!
That’s why the Moscow Region buys them

[Giant thought]

The idea is not bad, and the large-scale use of these products at the same time can bring good results.

[vkl-47]

and a rocket is not fate to strike. and why a kamikaze drone and not a martyr drone

[Altona]

Quote: vkl-47

and a rocket is not fate to strike. and why a kamikaze drone and not a martyr drone

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In general, the drone-ace of the Luftwaffe ... They, during the war, waged a wandering hunt.

[Lieutenant Izhe]

and why drone kamikaze and not drone shahid

"Shahid" is ... NOT KOSHER!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: vkl-47

and a rocket is not fate to strike

The whole question is price. A drone should be a little cheaper than a rocket. Plus, it can be controlled until the last moment. But frankly, I do not see the massive use of these adaptations. It’s getting expensive. it turns out a medium drone with an explosive charge close in weight with an anti-tank grenade. I believe that this is self-promotion.

[Finches]

Drone - kamikaze - the same cruise missile, what's the catch? Well, maybe somewhere freezes and what?

[Fregate]

Quote: Finches

Drone - kamikaze - the same cruise missile, what's the catch?

Not really. The drone - kamikaze is the same UAV, it flies slower than the KR and is more maneuverable.

[Scoun]

Quote: Fregate

The drone - kamikaze is the same UAV, it flies slower than the KR and is more maneuverable.

in fact, it is a one-time UAV used in the trash after being used together with optical and other things))) and as American experts correctly noted ... they say so. - we made smart bombs, stuffed them with modern electronics, and the Russians made smart a plane that uses stupid bombs in a smart way (we installed SP-24 on a plane).
IMHA
UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

[Fregate]

A few months ago at VO there was an article about the development by a Polish company of a similar UAV in 2 versions of the day (warhead 1kg +) and night (700g.). And as they wrote, the cost will be about 1000 euros.

Quote: Scoun

UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

Well I do not know. Maybe in some cases they will be and quite efficiently used.

[APASUS]

Quote: Fregate

A few months ago at VO there was an article about the development by a Polish company of a similar UAV in 2 versions of the day (warhead 1kg +) and night (700g.). And as they wrote, the cost will be about 1000 euros.

Quote: Scoun

UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

Well I do not know. Maybe in some cases they will be and quite efficiently used.

Americans have been releasing for a long time

[oblako]

"Shell" canister charge - duck and normal + electronic warfare + IR blinding and let it fly ...

[Jack-b]

Quote: Scoun

UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

Depending on its cost and application. In principle, it can be quite inexpensive. Then it could be used, for example, to track down and destroy militants. Getting a bomb or rocket into a jeep or moving oil tanker is hard. But such a device is quite capable. So that he can find application in the fight against terrorists. In a full-scale war, he will probably be drowned out by electronic warfare.

[Rumata]

Quote: Scoun

UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

Many will disagree with you. More than once I came across opinions that such drones like these, in the future, will become the main weapon for breaking through layered air defense

[Scoun]

Quote: Rumata

Many will disagree with you.

+ Yes, and they’ll do it right)) in the end, it’s always worth achieving one goal or another, and if the task is to track down and destroy the VIP goal, then it’s justifiable costs, and when used massively, it’s simply ruinous and in any case other parties will begin to look for ways to counter such drones.
Everything depends on the "dose", either a medicine or a poison. )))

[andj61]

Quote: Rumata

More than once I came across opinions that such drones like these, in the future, will become the main weapon for breaking through layered air defense

Maybe, maybe ... That's just what to do with the use of such drones in the conditions of RB countermeasures, as well as about range?
And a charge of 2-3 kg of explosives is still not so much ...

[Agent_017]

The rocket has a high speed, the drone may be less noticeable both in sound and in radar. Yes, and the price is probably ... If it were not profitable, then they would not invest in drones bablosiki ..

[Evgeny RS]

Well, why not apply in Aleppo?

[Jack-b]

Quote: Eugene RS

Well, why not apply in Aleppo?

What do the Jews need in Aleppo?

[Agent_017]

Cheaper than a plane to a deck .. But what is smart there? Warhead, motor, program control with a PC, well, maybe a radio module ..

[Boos]

This is for VIPs! When the end justifies the means ...)

[doework]

Dangerous "toys" .. especially if there are dozens and hundreds of them

[padded jacket]

Another Israeli cartoon?
An urgent need to give Tel Aviv some kind of movie award, otherwise it will fill up all the resources available to it with low-grade computer animations.

[Castor]

Quote: doework

Dangerous "toys" .. especially if there are dozens and hundreds of them

Then they are able to destroy dozens and hundreds of false targets.

[Black Colonel]

Not all goals are false. The main thing is the effectiveness of the application. Either throw a special group to eliminate the goal, or this kamikaze. Costs can be comparable, and risk - zero.

[Castor]

Quote: Black Colonel

Not all goals are false. The main thing is the effectiveness of the application.

As expected, you will have to "chew" your idea.

http://topwar.ru/90796-pvo-sovetskih-aerodromov-v-gody-voyny.html
By August 15, there were deployed about 40 false airfields that simulated military activity. As a result, out of 18 raids made by enemy aircraft from August 1 to August 31, 16 were made on false airfields.

And this was done by people who are more difficult to deceive than a dumb piece of iron. What will be the ratio of drone attacked false targets to real? What is the effectiveness of the application? Maybe about the spectacular?
PS At the same time, the real goal is masked and protected as much as possible, while the false one is quite the opposite.

[amirbek]

Quote: Castor

Costs can be comparable, and risk - zero

and most importantly folding ... here the fantasies are endless, you can print on a 3D printer ... slaughter with anything ... for example slaughter like peas with various balls with mines, gas or especially frequency emitters, etc. depending on the task harakiresu

[Magic archer]

An interesting idea! Mass production will reduce the cost of the product, but the breadth of use is simply amazing! Such a drone hangs and is waiting in the wings, ready to strike any minute. Our specialists also need to come up with something similar. Now in Syria such UAVs would be very useful

[aleks 62 next]

..... Now in Syria such UAVs would be very useful ...


... In Syria - yes .... And in the context of the RE countermeasures, how ????? .... Where will this toy fly ???? ...

[voyaka uh]

"the conditions of the electronic countermeasures as ?????" ////

Counter to what? He flies autonomously from the photos embedded in his comp.,
nobody controls it in any way.

[Jack-b]

A cruise missile flies through the pictures, and an UAV can patrol the area, search for a target and attack. Naturally under the control of the operator. Therefore, the issue of counteraction is relevant. But I think that this is a cheap device for combating bandits and is not designed to work in the face of opposition.

[Ahmed]

Quote: Jack-B

Naturally under the control of the operator ...

You have not heard about the technology of preprogramming a flight plan?

Quote: Jack-B

But I think that this is a cheap device for combating bandits and is not designed to work in the face of opposition.

Minor is possible, but Harpy NG is a rather expensive device, specially sharpened to destroy precisely air defense radars, communication centers, and electronic warfare (any electronic warfare is an excellent source of radiation).

[mvg]

Counter to what? He flies autonomously from the photos embedded in his comp.,
nobody controls it in any way.

Tales .. Draw him another mapping of the area .. And the intellectual definition of false targets and interference ... Anyway, carries artificial intelligence on itself ..

[Rumata]

Quote: aleks 62 next

..In Syria - yes .... And in the context of the RE countermeasures, how ????? .... Where will this toy fly ???? ...

For this reason, such emphasis on autonomy and self-recognition of the target

[Agent_017]

When such toys are in the hands of the operating armies, this is bad, but at least it can be shown in case of aggression. But the trouble is that existing and modern weapons, though not massively, but fall into the hands of the Bashkorez. And in their hands a self-made explosive package is dangerous for civilians ...

[doework]

In fact, all these "kids" (the so-called "mosquito" troops) can have a great influence on the tactics of limited conflicts:
1. Technological and inexpensive in the series;
2. Universal enough;
3. The use of network-centric technologies and the rudiments of "artificial intelligence" will reduce the effectiveness of the electronic equipment of the target;
4. Subtle when transporting and using.

Given the current accessibility of key technologies, terrorists are highly likely weapons. True, for now - suicide bombers with belts are cheaper .., but that's just - for now.

[Rostislav]

And how long can he "hang and wait in the wings"? 60 minutes?

[Ahmed]

Quote: Rostislav

And how long can he "hang and wait in the wings"? 60 minutes?

Harpy NG can barrage for more than 3 hours.

[Trailer]

In Ukrainians steeper. They have one-time SU-25.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Karavan - They have a one-time country. ..

[Primus pilus]

I wonder how much it costs? It would not be bad to launch something similar from the MLRS Smerch.

[igorspb]

and for this drone on the roof of the target mark draw necessarily?)))

[Agent_017]

Of course! Drones when they see targets, they understand that this is a fraudulent target and look for a target only without a target ...)))

[denni]

But in fact, is it just a cruise missile?

[voyaka uh]

Yes, it's a mini cruise missile.

[Jack-b]

No, he can barrage in anticipation and search for a target and then attack. Cruise missiles are not capable of this.

[Ahmed]

Quote: Jack-B

No, he can barrage in anticipation and search for a target and then attack. Cruise missiles are not capable of this.

Who decided that? Here is an example of a barrage of the Kyrgyz Republic.

Delilah cruise missile

[Barakuda]

In the Zaporozhye region. a warehouse with ammunition was burning. UkroSMI say that with the help of drones they set fire to "unknown" persons.

[Shadowcat]

How is it different from a rocket?

“So, if you install a warhead on the Rotem L reconnaissance quadrocopter instead of a surveillance system unit, it can be used as a guided munition. To control the device, which can carry one kilogram of explosives, a tablet computer with a communication range of ten kilometers with direct visibility or 1,5 kilometers in urban areas is used ”

The missile, the same aircraft carrying the warhead and targeting means, when shifted towards "intelligence" can be controlled from the Control Post.
P.S. There are missiles that are induced by radiation that make air defense posts.

Based

Green Dragon drone is a hybrid of a cruise missile and UAV

All in all, this missile was tied to an UAV and that’s it.

How to resist? Watch while driving / before scanning for scanned sector frequencies. Indeed, in order to catch something, he must detect active radiation and receive a reflected signal (or void) ((do not confuse void and reflected signal))
P.S. Yes, I am not specially educated, but thanks to the physics teacher of my school who was able to drive at least a minimum of knowledge into my head.

[Riv]

The weapon of terror. Suddenly attack a separate car, house, group of people. There are no other applications for such drones and cannot be.

But what can one expect from the Jews?

[Chisayna]

They have Kaiten. Such a bird just right for him.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Riv

The weapon of terror.

Moreover, the weapon of terror against the underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and of course Gaza.
Israel again actually creates weapons not of a warrior but of a simple killer.

[slot]

Quote: quilted jacket

Moreover, the weapon of terror against the underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and of course Gaza.

Oh-yo-yo-yo-yo. So sad for them. You need to pray less, and develop more knowledge and high-tech industries.

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

against underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt Syria Jordan Lebanon

I have little agreement with you. but here on all 100%. underdeveloped.
Because you need to learn and work. and not forehead on 5 once a day to knock out rugs and yell - Allah to the bar !!!!!

[padded jacket]

Quote: slot

Less need to be prayed, and more to learn and develop high-tech industries.

Quote: atalef

Because you need to learn and work.

Or you just need to learn to "steal" technology from all over the world and beg for donations like Israel does.

[slot]

Quote: quilted jacket

Or you just need to learn to "steal" technology from all over the world and beg for donations like Israel does.

It’s also not a bad thing, the main thing is to approach it wisely, and then Bush should live like in chocolate. And then, where did you see a Jew who will not cut what lies badly.

[Ahmed]

Quote: quilted jacket

the weapon of terror against the underdeveloped countries ...

[voyaka uh]

for riv

"Weapon of terror. Suddenly attack an individual car, house, group of people" ///

No, against individual Islamist commanders (or small
groups) there are special mini-guided missiles with a charge of 0.5 - 3 kg,
launched either from the ground or from the air. And they have been repeatedly (and successfully) used.

And Harpy with 30 kg of strong explosives, in principle, were designed for guaranteed
destruction of large air defense radars. They are not allowed one by one, of course, but by a group
for every radar.

[Ahmed]

Quote: Riv

There are no other applications for such drones and cannot be.

Quote: Jack-B

But I think that this is a cheap device for combating bandits and is not designed to work in the face of opposition.

Harpy NG is a pretty expensive device, specially sharpened to destroy precisely air defense radars, communication centers, and electronic warfare (any electronic warfare is an excellent source of radiation).

Quote: Riv

But what can one expect from the Jews?

[gabonskijfront]

kamikaze, it’s not very Jewish. I wouldn’t trust such a machine, it could change its mind at any time.

[Peter endo]

Today, about such a drone bombed an ammunition depot in Zaporozhye.

[Massik]

There will always be a risk of seizure of control and not the fact that the same drones will not blow up the place from where they were released.

[RUSIVAN]

Israeli developers showcased kamikaze drones in Singapore
I got the idea, and if the Russian programmers recode this drone, as it was already in the Crimea and sent back home))) Israeli scientists did not think about this ?!

[Ahmed]

Quote: RUSIVAN

The thought came to me, and if this drone is RUSSIAN programmers re-encode ...

[tchoni]

Interesting idea. But not new. Scientists for about forty years have already rolled around the idea of ​​"smart" minefields, with active mines ...

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

And the drones will surely shout Allah Abkar "?

[Agent_017]

Israeli drones will not scream like that, they will scream - ShoLem alAiham! Hello)! ('Peace be upon you')

[Oleg1080]

X..nya, PR, let's repaint our rockets in red, maybe they will sell better or in blue.

[Agent_017]

It’s better to decorate with rhinestones, although women will join in the purchase of colorful rockets, they will sell more and more ..

[Gunther]

Quote: Primus Pilus

I wonder how much it costs? It would not be bad to launch something similar from the MLRS Smerch.

Russia, together with China, is already developing a rocket for the MLRS, carrying an unmanned aerial vehicle, and the combat effectiveness of a MLRS + unmanned aerial vehicle is an order of magnitude higher than the Israeli pepelats.

[Ahmed]

Quote: Gunter

Well, the combat effectiveness of the MLRS + drone is an order of magnitude higher than the Israeli pepelats presented ...

This is so touching when shkolota begins to compare systems of different orders.

[anatomicum]

Just an idea. But what if we reduce all this to the size of a grenade, equip it with a primitive thermal imager and use it against manpower in a certain radius?

[Yak-3P]

expensive!! read about guided missiles - very expensive!

[Yak-3P]

Law enforcement officers, consisting of six people, had to search the streets of the "Capital of Culture" for more than fifty naked Africans. This ended the "mass gathering of the tribe" in one of the baths of the Petrograd district, the newspaper writes .... from "Zvezda" ... they ran away from the baths .. hot ..

[Cobra77]

What is the difference from a cruise missile? In delivery speed?

[Rumata]

I will add. Rotem L is compact, fits in a regular backpack and worn on the back. Need one operator, launch in a couple of minutes. I liked the range of 10km.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Rumata

I will add. Rotem L is compact, fits in a regular backpack and worn on the back. Need one operator, launch in a couple of minutes. I liked the range of 10km.

Of all the products in Singapore, I liked it the most.

[drlalex]

What a fantasy field for aircraft makers. So I knew that it was not in vain that the union had so many model-making circles :)
In theory, such a thing should cost much cheaper than a rocket, and it works more energy efficiently (easier engine, ACS, more tolerances).

[mvg]

Quote: atalef

Quote: quilted jacket

against underdeveloped countries such as its neighbors Egypt Syria Jordan Lebanon

I have little agreement with you. but here on all 100%. underdeveloped.
Because you need to learn and work. and not forehead on 5 once a day to knock out rugs and yell - Allah to the bar !!!!!

They beat out the dust ... why do you not like Araps so much?

[vglazunov]

However kosher drone

[Conscience]

here such in the Donbass - gifts for those who like to shoot from howitzers, land on boxes with ammunition

[corporal]

All those present missed one important point - how to deal with it?
No one imagined what to do if this garbage flies into the window of the apartment, or sits on the roof of a car, even if not the first one, but 3-4-5-6 -..., etc., persons of the state? You won’t get enough of all the air defense systems.

[Zomanus]

But did they check these drones for work against our electronic warfare equipment?
I won’t be surprised if ours can not only intercept them,
but also send back.

[Mentat]

Quote: Rumata

Quote: Scoun

UAV - kamikaze spectacular but not effective.

Many will disagree with you. More than once I came across opinions that such drones like these, in the future, will become the main weapon for breaking through layered air defense

Separated air defense means means of defense of near range. How can they, at least theoretically, be overcome by such a low-speed, low-maneuvering product?

[Denis Skiff]

Whack 9. what for this suicide chassis? say the divine wind?