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OPK begins mass production of the Р-430 communication complex, “invisible” for the enemy EW

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United Instrument Engineering Corporation (part of Rostec State Corporation) begins mass production of modern P-430 radio relay systems designed to build secure digital communication lines at a distance of 1500 km. The complex is practically invulnerable for EW facilities, is able to work secretly from the electronic intelligence of the enemy and is well protected from high-precision weapons.




P-430 reliably works in a difficult jamming environment, including in the conditions of strong electronic countermeasures of the opponent. The new equipment is capable, without operator intervention, to conduct remote monitoring and remote control of multi-slot telecommunication lines, ensuring uninterrupted high-quality communications.

"The development and mass production of this technology is our concern" Constellation ", - said the deputy general director of the" OPK "Sergey Skokov. - The P-430 complex has unique capabilities: it independently analyzes the radio-electronic environment and capabilities of the communication system, and without the participation of man, calculates the energy of the selected route. Its work is built in such a way that in case of failure of one or several stations, with the appearance of zones of "darkening" and a possible reduction in signal quality, the equipment automatically selects an alternative route for data transmission. At the same time, the equipment can be installed both on stationary objects and on a wheeled or tracked chassis, which allows us to quickly build a unified system of radio relay communication for all units of command and control of the troops. ”

The P-430 complex has successfully passed state tests, demonstrating a high degree of protection from a potential electronic intelligence and electronic warfare enemy. It uses new methods of signal coding, supports simultaneous operation in several frequency bands, uses noise-proof operating modes — noise-like signals, pseudo-random frequency tuning, and automatic power control. Resistance to temperatures from + 50 to - 50 ° C makes it possible to use the P-430 both in the southern regions and in the Arctic.

The complex provides for the possibility of separating the hardware and antenna machines to a distance of 2 km, which guarantees the secrecy and protection of the crew and the main equipment of the station from high-precision weapons. Each radio relay station has satellite navigation equipment (GLONASS, GPS), a VHF station for office communications, and night vision devices.

“This technology has no analogs in Russia. In the near future, the complex can become a basic set of equipment for digital noise-free radio-relay communication for all types of the Armed Forces and law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation, ”said Sergey Skokov.

The first shipments of the technology are scheduled for the second half of 2016 of the year.
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  1. Michael67
    Michael67 18 February 2016 10: 38
    16
    What beauty ... And the delivery dates to the Armed Forces (first deliveries of new equipment are scheduled for the second half of 2016.) seen? I applaud the DIC!
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 18 February 2016 10: 42
      15
      Such informational facts cannot but rejoice, and at the same time you feel indescribable pride for our designers and manufacturers of such magnificent equipment.
      1. Rostov Papa
        Rostov Papa 18 February 2016 11: 01
        +3
        Such informational facts cannot but rejoice, and at the same time you feel indescribable pride for our designers and manufacturers of such magnificent equipment.
        The only question is, where were these constructors before? With a shudder, I recall Soviet-era equipment. I still remember how our jokers with TOU (later found out) sent the parties by radiogram by the ZAS urgently sent to Yerevan, while we were standing near the Turkish border with a view of Mount Ararat. Well, our commander’s mug was when he reported that we had arrived, the shining star shone like a polished nickel - well then ...
        I hope that things are better now.
        1. Gorynovich
          Gorynovich 18 February 2016 11: 06
          +3
          Quote: Rostov Dad
          With a shudder, I recall my service as a signalman in the late 80s.

          And I'm in the early 80's. Needless to say, communications equipment then lagged behind partners for decades.
          1. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 18 February 2016 11: 21
            +7
            And I'm in the early 80's. Needless to say, communications equipment then lagged behind partners for decades.
            For that, by the weight of the equipment we were in front of the whole planet. In training, a march with a R-107 behind me always provoked tender feelings towards those who invented this miracle of technology.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 18 February 2016 12: 01
              +7
              Quote: Rostov Dad
              For that, by the weight of the equipment we were in front of the whole planet. In training, a march with a R-107 behind me always provoked tender feelings towards those who invented this miracle of technology.

              ... yes, okay ... but, what is there "over the hill" in the 50s-60s, everyone already had manual Kenwoods, they went on microcircuits ?! ... The 170th development of the early 60s, naturally, weighed under 30 kg, but mattress mats were lighter at that time? ... at the beginning of the 70s, I went to the P-170M troops completely on semiconductors ... and now its dimensions are so expanding horizons .. 34 x39,5x21 cm ... a lot for the beginning of the 70s? and company / battalion level field station? ... weight together with batteries and “hooking” 18,5 kg. ... normally provided the telephone and telegraph with an HF / VHF key ... hi
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 18 February 2016 12: 05
                +3
                Quote: Inok10
                34 x39,5x21 cm

                ... appearance ... hi
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        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 18 February 2016 11: 56
          +5
          Quote: Rostov Dad
          Well, our commander’s mug was when he reported that we had arrived, the shining star shone like a polished dime - well then ...

          Did you send a part without receiving confirmation? So it's not the equipment and encryption methods that are to blame, but the unit commander. Who does this without asking for confirmation? He then reported, so he did not ask for confirmation, otherwise at the "other end" upon receipt of confirmation everything would have been told him about him.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 18 February 2016 12: 03
            +4
            Quote: Алексей_К
            Surely without receiving confirmation sent part? So this is not the hardware and encryption methods are to blame, but the unit commander.

            ... this is a "bike" and so everyone understands ... hi
          2. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 18 February 2016 12: 27
            -1
            Did you send a part without receiving confirmation? So it's not the equipment and encryption methods that are to blame, but the unit commander. Who does this without asking for confirmation? He then reported, so he did not ask for confirmation, otherwise at the "other end" upon receipt of confirmation everything would have been told him about him.
            He rushed without a shadow of a doubt, then he earned half a pound, tore his dupa to the British flag. Yes, and then the mess was utter.

            this is a "bike" and so everyone understands


            And you respected easier cornering. I have nothing to lie to. Since I had to hang around with this radio station for this @ m, I was a direct witness to many events.
        3. VP
          VP 18 February 2016 12: 10
          +5
          The only question is, where were these constructors before? With a shudder, I recall Soviet-era equipment.

          And do not say, Berlin had to be taken without them.
          ZASu radiogram

          So they had a cipher block.
          Even "Violet" was unrealistic to open in a day, and the key to it was changed every day according to the regulations, although its crypto protection was very high.
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    3. vkl-47
      vkl-47 18 February 2016 10: 48
      +1
      the connection is essentially the eyes and ears of the military. Without good communication, there is no coherence, which means that everyone is circumvented and will be completely unaware of the combat situation.
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      2. Kostyar
        Kostyar 18 February 2016 10: 58
        +2
        One feels the power of a reviving Russia, even b with the liberals in the government to scorch ..... !!!
      3. Lieutenant Izhe
        Lieutenant Izhe 18 February 2016 11: 04
        +1
        the connection is essentially the eyes and ears of the military

        no, well, definitely NOT TAIL! belay
        excuse me, have you ever been "military"? wassat
        PS So the "military" intelligence ... is mistaken for the "eyes and soup" of the army!
        1. Deniska
          Deniska 18 February 2016 11: 50
          +2
          the connection is essentially the eyes and ears of the military


          Rather, the nervous system :)
        2. vkl-47
          vkl-47 18 February 2016 11: 59
          0
          Quote: Lieutenant Izhe
          the connection is essentially the eyes and ears of the military

          no, well, definitely NOT TAIL! belay
          excuse me, have you ever been "military"? wassat
          PS So the "military" intelligence ... is mistaken for the "eyes and soup" of the army!

          Well, straight Petrosyan. Only as your reconnaissance without communication will cost if it gets into an ambush? a mail pigeon will launch. lol or screaming will help kill. can hear. how dawn to transmit data without communication? a? run back? lol
    4. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 18 February 2016 10: 48
      -2
      I may not be in the subject, but look
      https://youtu.be/_qsxLUmLJV0
    5. rpek32
      rpek32 18 February 2016 10: 51
      0
      handsome men. that's what is called working properly
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 February 2016 10: 54
      +1
      The R-430 complex successfully passed state tests, demonstrating a high degree of protection against probable adversary from electronic intelligence and electronic warfare equipment.

      Taki passed confirm! bully
    7. skrabplus.ru
      skrabplus.ru 18 February 2016 11: 32
      +1
      Add nothing, a fat plus! Keep it up, the main thing is not to depend on the import of spare parts!
    8. gg.na
      gg.na 18 February 2016 14: 29
      0
      [quote = Michael67] I applaud the DIC! [/ quote]
      I fully support! good Such excellent things are created for our army. To be honest, I already want to go and serve again! repeat
      [A giant of thoughts] and at the same time you experience indescribable pride for our designers and manufacturers of such excellent technology. [/ Quote]
      And to you, too, I would put a huge amount of ++++++++++++ !!!!! I also fully support you !!! yes
  2. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 18 February 2016 10: 38
    +6
    Communication is the nerves of the Army, and it is noticed only when it disappears.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 18 February 2016 11: 32
      +5
      There was such an expression:
      Communication - it is like air, no one notices it until someone ruins it

      I still remember a military joke. Order for the preparation of a promotion order after the conduct of tactical exercises: "To reward tankers, artillerymen, motorized riflemen who distinguished themselves in the exercises in accordance with merit fellow
      ... signalmen - do not punish recourse

      Meanwhile, the reasons for the failures of the first days of the war in 1941, we owe a lot to the lack of communications in the troops and their command ...
  3. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 18 February 2016 10: 40
    +5
    Rostec sold seriously
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 18 February 2016 10: 51
      +3
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      Rostec sold seriously

      And how much is kept secret from everyone! Much more than voiced.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 February 2016 10: 55
      0
      sometimes it’s good to make large corporations out of hundreds of factories
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  5. DMoroz
    DMoroz 18 February 2016 10: 47
    0
    Yeah, the performance is impressive
    1. VP
      VP 18 February 2016 13: 06
      0
      And what characteristics impressed you?
      Not a single characteristic is given here, not even a range
  6. V.ic
    V.ic 18 February 2016 10: 50
    +4
    For communication without marriage! drinks
  7. activator
    activator 18 February 2016 10: 52
    +3
    OPK begins mass production of the Р-430 communication complex, “invisible” for the enemy EW
    It’s just great, and right there the author writes
    “This equipment has no analogues in Russia. IN
    And here the question arises of the enemy already has analogues that are invisible to our reb? And the complex is invisible to the reb rebels because it is not there yet? Well, now throw me stools. repeat
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    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 February 2016 10: 58
      +2
      We don’t throw stools, just watch videos from the APU on the Internet



      1. askort154
        askort154 18 February 2016 12: 18
        +1
        Petrov .... We don’t throw stools, just watch videos from the APU on the Internet

        Thank you, you bastard! Here is a calculation! For a long time it accelerated, but it hit exactly a lone pillar! You won’t drink skill!
      2. screw cutter
        screw cutter 18 February 2016 14: 46
        0
        There is nothing to add, at the end of the video everything is said as it is.
      3. flay
        flay 18 February 2016 20: 37
        0
        Yeah ... understanding belay
    3. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 11: 19
      +2
      Quote: activator
      And the complex is invisible to the reb rebels because it is not there yet? Well now throw me stools

      It’s just that someone loves beautiful headlines, the report of the State Commission says absolutely correctly and professionally
      Quote: Sith Lord
      The P-430 complex successfully passed state tests, demonstrating a high degree of protection against probable adversary from electronic intelligence and electronic warfare

      Demonstrated a high degree of security.

      And rightly so, firstly, no one knows the degree and capabilities of the enemy’s electronic warfare and what is not visible yesterday - today.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 18 February 2016 12: 58
        0
        Quote: atalef
        And rightly so, firstly, no one knows the degree and capabilities of the enemy’s electronic warfare and what is not visible yesterday - today.

        And that "Donald Cook" in the Black Sea did not have electronic warfare equipment? Or is this a pure performance by the Americans, pretending to be such radio-electronic "fools"? After a while, the Americans "yelled" about the electronic "bubble" in Syria, are they really pretending again?
        And a long time ago, when the Americans sent two ballistic missiles to Syria to test Russian missile defense systems, and one was simply destroyed, and the other changed its flight trajectory and was also destroyed - that was a long time ago. Really since then all "suckers" pretend that they have no means of countering Russian electronic warfare.
        I have big doubts, because Russia, like America, has satellite-based radio-electronic monitoring facilities and if active radio exchange begins in a certain area due to an inadequate situation, this only indicates one thing that a likely adversary did not expect. In a normal situation, all radio exchanges go in the planned volume (request-response) and transmission density (very often a long request or response).
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2016 14: 41
          0
          Quote: Алексей_К
          And that "Donald Cook" in the Black Sea did not have electronic warfare equipment? Or is it pure performance from the Americans

          Aleksey, stop believing in a fairy tale (sucked 1000 times on VO already) - there was no incident with Cook.
          100 evidence was presented to this.

          Quote: Алексей_К
          And quite a while ago, when the Americans sent to Syria, to test Russian missile defense systems, two ballistic missiles and one was simply destroyed, and the other changed the flight path and was also destroyed - it was quite a while ago

          Was it the same?
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 19 February 2016 22: 49
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Aleksey, stop believing in a fairy tale (sucked 1000 times on VO already) - there was no incident with Cook.
            100 evidence was presented to this.

            Well, maybe this video will convince you a little of something:
            1. atalef
              atalef 19 February 2016 23: 11
              -2
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Quote: atalef
              Aleksey, stop believing in a fairy tale (sucked 1000 times on VO already) - there was no incident with Cook.
              100 evidence was presented to this.

              Well, maybe this video will convince you a little of something:

              Aleksey - it’s good to believe in fairy tales, there are so many videos and conclusions of experts, and just officers of the airborne defense.
              This will not convince me since the energy conservation law has not yet been canceled, and the energy capabilities of the Destroyer (I think you have no questions about the Aegis system and its power indicators)
              so, they are ORDERING higher than Khibin (I’m not saying that they are not installed on su, but suppose) so. kilowatts will never extinguish megawatts - at least describe yourself.
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 19 February 2016 23: 00
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Алексей_К
            And quite a while ago, when the Americans sent to Syria, to test Russian missile defense systems, two ballistic missiles and one was simply destroyed, and the other changed the flight path and was also destroyed - it was quite a while ago
            Was it the same?

            It was. You just don’t want to listen and read about it. Here is a link for you:
            http://zacepilo.ucoz.ru/news/rossija_sbila_dve_ballisticheskie_rakety_ssha_v_sre
            dizemnom_more / 2013-09-18-40
            For the lazy, here is the text of the article:
            "The news could become the main sensation of the fall: Russia shot down two US ballistic missiles aimed at hitting targets in Syria.
            A well-informed diplomatic source told the As-Safir newspaper that “The US war against Syria began and ended when two ballistic missiles were launched, leaving behind conflicting information - when Israel denied the launch and Russia confirmed it. The confrontation continued until an Israeli statement was issued indicating that missile launches were conducted as part of a joint Israeli-American exercise, and that the missiles then fell into the sea, and the launches themselves were not related to the Syrian crisis. ”
            The source also told the Lebanese diary that “the US army launched these two missiles from the NATO base in Spain, and they were instantly spotted by Russian radars and collided with Russian defense systems - so that one of them exploded in the air, and the second was rejected in side of the sea. "
            In this context, the source notes that “the statement of the Russian Ministry of Defense that two ballistic missile launches in the direction of the Middle East were detected is intended to obscure two points: the first is the place from which the missiles were launched, and the second is that rockets were shot down. Why? Because at the moment the full-scale operation was launched, the head of the Russian intelligence service contacted American intelligence and said that “a strike on Damascus means a strike on Moscow, and we removed the term“ shot down two missiles ”from the statement in order to maintain bilateral relations and avoid escalation. Therefore, you must immediately reconsider your policy, approach and intentions regarding the Syrian crisis, and you must also make sure that you will not be able to eliminate our presence in the Mediterranean. ”
            “This unannounced direct confrontation between Moscow and Washington increased the confusion in the Obama administration, and definitely showed that in the case of Syria, the Russian side is ready to go all the way. And also - that the USA had no other way out of the impasse, except through the initiative proposed by Russia, which allowed America to save face, ”he added.
            Here, a diplomatic source explained that “in order to prevent America from becoming even more embarrassed, Washington demanded that Tel Aviv take over this launch so that the United States could save face before the world community - especially considering that these missiles were the beginning of US aggression against Syria and announcement of the start of a military operation. After that, the US president was supposed to go to Russia for the G-20 summit, and negotiate the fate of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. And only in this way he could find a way out of the impasse in which he found himself. ”
            The source also noted that “after the missile confrontation between the US and Russia, Moscow intends to increase the number of military experts in the military group present in the Mediterranean Sea.
            1. atalef
              atalef 19 February 2016 23: 05
              -2
              Quote: Алексей_К
              A well-informed diplomatic source told the As-Safir newspaper that “The US war against Syria began and ended when two ballistic missiles were launched, leaving behind conflicting information - when Israel denied the launch and Russia confirmed it.

              Well, this ace-safer is really the source.
              Alexei, this was a test of the Hetz system (Israeli missile defense) - unsuccessful, they wrote about this.
              Nothing to talk about.
              And the rest is empty insenuations.
              The Hatz launch was carried out from the base in Palmachim _ it is in the center of the country and it was seen.
              This nonsense reminds of Cook, who seemed to be extinguished by the Khibiny - the only ones who know about it are the Russian Internet.
          3. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 19 February 2016 23: 24
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Alexei, stop believing in a fairy tale already ...

            It is possible that Russian electronic warfare systems are not tales:
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    4. Professor
      Professor 18 February 2016 11: 19
      +2
      Quote: activator
      And here the question arises of the enemy already has analogues that are invisible to our reb?

      Here is the philosophical question: can a Russian electronic warfare system capable of suppressing any connection suppress the Russian P-430 which cannot suppress electronic warfare?

      To your question, and for a long time. hi
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 18 February 2016 12: 37
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Here is the philosophical question: can a Russian electronic warfare system capable of suppressing any connection suppress the Russian P-430 which cannot suppress electronic warfare?

        Dear Professor"! You understand that they will not regret disclosing military secrets, even if you are a "urya-patriot".
        Recently, the American media wrote about the "bubble" in Syria, which hinders the American military. Surely the Israeli electronic warfare and intelligence units have figured out something on this issue. You'd better ask them by acquaintance.
        Link to article about the "bubble" in Syria:
        http://topwar.ru/page,1,2,85830-nato-gigantskiy-radioelektronnyy-puzyr-v-sirii-n
        e-daet-nam-letat.html
        1. Professor
          Professor 18 February 2016 14: 32
          +2
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Link to article about the "bubble" in Syria:

          I read the original: http: //osnetdaily.com/2015/10/russian-jamming-system-blocks-all
          -nato-el
          ectronics-inside-bubble-600-km-in-diameter-over-syria /
          It is suspicious that not one serious publication wrote anything about this.

          Israeli experts can’t ask. Here, everything connected with Lamed Alef (EW) is strictly classified. Until now, they have not declassified the example of electronic warfare of naval combat at Latakia in 1973. hi
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            1. Professor
              Professor 18 February 2016 14: 41
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Hi Oleg, remember during the bombing of the Syrian reactor in northern Israel and almost all of Lebanon - all satellite TV and half of the mobile communications were covered.

              I had cable then, but my colleagues complained a lot. I don’t remember about mobile communications.
              Why are you posting every post twice? For stupid? wink

              PS
              That day I was Ein Zivan-karaparativ. drinks
              1. atalef
                atalef 18 February 2016 14: 48
                -1
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: atalef
                Hi Oleg, remember during the bombing of the Syrian reactor in northern Israel and almost all of Lebanon - all satellite TV and half of the mobile communications were covered.

                I had cable then, but my colleagues complained a lot. I don’t remember about mobile communications.
                Why are you posting every post twice? For stupid? wink

                PS
                That day I was Ein Zivan-karaparativ. drinks

                Yes, I’m writing from a working computer, and he constantly gives out the 2 comment. Cache cannot be cleaned.
                Network on 5 computers.
                That's labor when I have time.
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              3. atalef
                atalef 18 February 2016 14: 50
                0
                Quote: Professor
                I was Ein Zivan-karaparativ that day

                Have you been to Kofi Anan?
                Well see Kuneitru fellow drinking coffee.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 18 February 2016 15: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: atalef
                  Well, see Kuneitru, have a drink of coffee.

                  We actually walked there with the whole office. They covered a glade in the orchards on the border, a concert, and they picked up apples for the road, whoever they could take away. Only it was strange that in the evening, relatives began to call everyone. Like, "It's okay"? We say "What"? And those "Yes so. Nothing ..." laughing
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                  2. atalef
                    atalef 18 February 2016 15: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, see Kuneitru, have a drink of coffee.

                    We actually walked there with the whole office. They covered a glade in the orchards on the border, a concert, and they picked up apples for the road, whoever they could take away. Only it was strange that in the evening, relatives began to call everyone. Like, "It's okay"? We say "What"? And those "Yes so. Nothing ..." laughing

                    We had the same corporate event there in one year.
                    We went on tractors, remember the Syrian hospital?
                    He built the USSR and the project was Soviet
                    Going inside, I was surprised to see the junction boxes and Soviet-style switches.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 18 February 2016 15: 27
                      -1
                      Quote: atalef
                      We had the same corporate event there in one year.

                      Today, again, someone bombed in Syria near Damascus. This news will appear on VO our Persian terry-padded jacket all come out. wassat
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 18 February 2016 16: 25
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: atalef
                        We had the same corporate event there in one year.

                        Today, again, someone bombed in Syria near Damascus. This news will appear on VO our Persian terry-padded jacket all come out. wassat

                        Terry-padded jacket? This is for Zverev.
          2. atalef
            atalef 18 February 2016 14: 38
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Israeli experts can’t ask. Here, everything connected with Lamed Alef (EW) is strictly classified. Until now, they have not declassified the example of electronic warfare of naval battle at Latakia in the year 1973.

            Ghbdtn / jktu /

            Hi Oleg, remember during the bombing of the Syrian reactor in northern Israel and almost all of Lebanon - all satellite TV and half of the mobile communications were covered.
    5. Batia
      Batia 18 February 2016 12: 17
      0
      Yes, it is loudly said, REP does not see. Any radiation is detected and its location is determined. But the fact that the AFU is carried out for a couple of kilometers is almost a guarantee that the calculation will remain alive. AFU can not hide. The height is the same as that of "Pine" or "Cornflower". And digital routing is already a big plus for the survivability of the communication network.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 18 February 2016 12: 23
        0
        So I immediately thought about "pine". smile
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      3. atalef
        atalef 18 February 2016 14: 45
        +1
        Quote: Batia
        Yes, it’s said loudly, REP does not see

        REP definitely does not see, but everyone hears it (or listens) wink

        Quote: Batia
        Any radiation is detected and its location is determined.

        And what's the point?
        Quote: Igor V
        So I immediately thought about "pine"

        belay

        They put a hare - the foreman of the forest. Well, on New Year's Eve, the animals all gathered - you need to dress up a Christmas tree, but the hare does not give the Christmas tree, it’s really painful. Well, the animals persuaded the fox, they say you are the most cunning, so ask the hare. A fox comes to a hare: - Bunny, honey, give me a Christmas tree .... - Nizzya, damn it. - Bunny, well, a little ... - He said, no way! - Bunny, well, can you even pine? A hare who thought ... - Well then. Pine, nobody saw a cheb, take a birch and go ... © http://anekdoty.ru/pro-elku/page/5/
        1. Batia
          Batia 18 February 2016 15: 23
          0
          Having determined the location of several stations, it is already possible to open the structure of the communication network and destroy the hub with ordinary art, which leads to a loss of communication. A "pine" is a kind of mast for PPC and TRS.
    6. Colonel
      Colonel 18 February 2016 13: 05
      +1
      Quote: activator
      complex invisible to reb enemy

      On the radio links use highly directional antennas, so intercepting or suppressing them is quite problematic. It is necessary to stand on target between neighboring stations, but this may not be allowed to be done.
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  8. heruv1me
    heruv1me 18 February 2016 10: 58
    +1
    Yes, and where are the characteristics? This is for the uninformed subject oh and oh how cool. I don’t know what is now in the army, but in the above description there is nothing supernatural, all this could have been built 20 years ago if desired. As I understand it, the principle of operation is like cellular communication (taking into account the specifics of relay operation, which is direct visibility and antennas directed at each other), i.e. these complexes are located in fields by fractions with reference to the coordinates, each station knows where the rest is and when the quality of the received signal deteriorates (or when some command is received) it switches (it seems that the antenna rotates mechanically in automatic mode) to another.
    1. taram taramych
      taram taramych 18 February 2016 11: 05
      +1
      Where have you been before?
  9. Fitter65
    Fitter65 18 February 2016 11: 06
    +2
    How pleasing the soul of the old relayman is. The basic principles of counteracting interference, often and range (sub-band), reducing power are now all in the machine ... damn it’s a pity that we just read about it, somewhere in this world ...
  10. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 18 February 2016 11: 11
    +2
    Quote: heruv1me
    As I understand it, the principle of operation is like cellular communication (taking into account the specifics of relay operation, which is direct visibility and antennas directed at each other), i.e. these complexes are located in fields by fractions with reference to the coordinates, each station knows where the rest is and when the quality of the received signal deteriorates (or when some command is received) it switches (it seems that the antenna rotates mechanically in automatic mode) to another.

    Do not know the subject - do not say! The noise immunity of digital communication channels is achieved due to the structure of the signal itself and the equipment capable of distinguishing this very useful signal against the background of strong interference, and your cellular communication is not able to do this and therefore it is easily jammed with the help of primitive electronic warfare even! Well, the physics of radio wave propagation is the same everywhere (even in Africa!). laughing
    1. heruv1me
      heruv1me 18 February 2016 11: 27
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      Well, cellular communications do not have such a task, but I brought it as an example of the location and the principle of redundancy. Where did I write that relay and cellular communications have a similar structure and principle of signal transmission? no need to juggle. By my post I wanted to say the following, what kind of forgiveness is that shit we have in the troops that we rejoice at the equipment that could be created (I’m sure some people did) 20 years ago.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 18 February 2016 12: 17
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        Cellular communication is more suitable for spark transmitters of the Popov era - it sends a signal to the air with the hope that someone will catch it. In p / relay communication other principles. There you need to create a trunk in which the N-th number of channels of a certain size to transmit and receive the necessary information. For this, directional antennas are used, unlike cellular communications. Direct visibility is also not a constant condition, tropospheric stations are beyond direct visibility.
  11. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 18 February 2016 12: 01
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    Quote: Rostov Dad
    Such informational facts cannot but rejoice, and at the same time you feel indescribable pride for our designers and manufacturers of such magnificent equipment.
    The only question is, where were these constructors before? With a shudder, I recall Soviet-era equipment. I still remember how our jokers with TOU (later found out) sent the parties by radiogram by the ZAS urgently sent to Yerevan, while we were standing near the Turkish border with a view of Mount Ararat. Well, our commander’s mug was when he reported that we had arrived, the shining star shone like a polished nickel - well then ...
    I hope that things are better now.

    ZASu radiogram? Original! Want to say T-225 split in auditory mode? If not, then you are confusing something and very much. And if the T-225 is split, then this is the level of the NSA no less. Yes, we have always had certain problems with the means of communication, but in order to take and split any CS KN, even on the T-219, does it take time and who needs it most importantly, given the degree of importance?
    1. Batia
      Batia 18 February 2016 12: 18
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      Yes, a fairy tale is in the auditory mode to stick a closed disu.
  12. Samoyed
    Samoyed 18 February 2016 12: 21
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    I am an amateur radio relay. I can assume that it will take a lot of power to drown out this entire range of radio waves. Really score a range. But when the frequency jumps according to the "controlled" random law - PSS, then the interference range must jump behind it - it's difficult. A double accident - and for encoding and the transmission frequency itself. And also worked with the antenna diagram, not a laser, of course, but maybe AFAR.
  13. IgorV
    IgorV 18 February 2016 12: 37
    +3
    Quote: Fitter65
    Fitter65 Today, 11:06 AM New
    How pleasing the soul of the old relayman is. The basic principles of counteracting interference, often and range (sub-band), reducing power are now all in the machine ... damn it’s a pity that we just read about it, somewhere in this world ...

    As an old relayman to an old relayman, I am also happy with such news about the creation of such a station. I want to add that in 1975, after graduating from college, I became the head of the R-406VCh station, so at that time no reconnaissance and tracking equipment could detect it either , even during exercises, control (and they were always at all communication centers) came and asked to connect them to the service channel to control negotiations along the line. So there was good equipment in those days.


    And at the expense of semiconductor stations at the "probable" enemy I will say one thing: in 1975, when a rocket was launched from Baikonur for a joint Apollo-Soyuz flight, a connection was organized between the main and backup launch sites of the RRS R-406 VCh, and the Americans stood with their own means communications, so after 12:00 their stations were disconnected due to overheating, and ours on lamps worked without interruption. The one that does not need to find fault with our technique, it was better at all times. There are drawbacks, but our minds struggle with them.
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 February 2016 13: 02
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    Pleased with such news.
    I recall the alternative about the third world.
    There, the Americans first shot down a communications satellite from an airplane,
    flying along the border with Georgia, scored our connection.
    Now I think this is already less realistic to do.
    But still, you need to do even better.
  15. Victor-M
    Victor-M 18 February 2016 13: 45
    +1
    Now it is enough for Russia to announce new developments in the military-industrial complex, and the West, and in particular the USA, will be in touch, because they know that Russia CAN! laughing
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 18 February 2016 14: 35
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      Quote: Victor-M
      because they know that Russia CAN!

      They know !!! And they belay scared wassat !!! So let urinate further in panties bully !
  16. rubidiy
    rubidiy 18 February 2016 16: 27
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    if even half of what is written is true, then this is great news. hi