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Russia sues Ukraine for non-payment of a $ Billion debt

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Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told the press that due to the reluctance of official Kiev to engage in dialogue with Moscow on payments to the 3 billion-dollar debt "in good faith," the Russian side filed a lawsuit. According to the Russian minister, Russia expected Ukraine to take a decision in a spirit of responsibility, but so far this has not happened, and therefore, as a last resort, Moscow decided to submit to Kiev to a judicial authority.


In this case, the head of the financial department of the Russian Federation Siluanov adds that a lawsuit does not become an obstacle to negotiations. According to him, if the Ukrainian authorities go to pay off the debt, the claim may be withdrawn.

It is noteworthy that the lawsuit was filed in the so-called High Court of London. A large law firm will defend the interests of Russia. Cleary gottlieb steen & hamiltonwhich is engaged in consultations of the Russian Federation in the international legal field for several years.

Russia sues Ukraine for non-payment of a $ Billion debt


Anton Siluanova quotes Interfax:
We have many times declared our readiness to discuss the possibility of a bilateral settlement of the issue of repayment by Ukraine of its obligations to Russia. But, unfortunately, Ukraine was not ready to negotiate in the spirit of "goodwill", for which not only we, but also the IMF, called for it. Therefore, the only solution to the issue is to go to court, which was done.


Recall that Ukraine refuses to pay Russia on its debt obligations in the amount of 3 billion. The government of Yatsenyuk has so far tried to set the Russian Federation, as a creditor, its own conditions, which Moscow did not accept due to the fact that the main “condition” of Ukraine was the transfer of debt from public to private.
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  1. st25310
    st25310 18 February 2016 06: 41
    +9
    We wouldn’t play with fire, wouldn’t anger Barak ... Now Barak will need to jam and disperse the London Court ...
    1. trenitron
      trenitron 18 February 2016 06: 45
      21
      The process is likely to drag on for a very long time, despite the fact that the fact of Ukraine’s cheating is simply obvious
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 February 2016 06: 54
        21
        Quote: trenitron
        that the fact of Ukraine’s scam is just obvious

        Most recently, Yatsenyuk said, I quote-We restructured 15 billion debt on loans that we did not take. Before that, even Mavrodi did not think of that.
        Therefore, in the case of Ukraine, not everything is so obvious. Jews nervously smoke aside, looking at Ukrainians.
        1. alexng
          alexng 18 February 2016 07: 29
          +3
          Their Anglo-Saxon insurers are fucking for greening.
          1. cniza
            cniza 18 February 2016 08: 15
            +7
            Quote: alexneg
            Their Anglo-Saxon insurers are fucking for greening.


            And for this debt, insurers and guarantors are sooooo serious.
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          3. avt
            avt 18 February 2016 10: 40
            +4
            Quote: alexneg
            Their Anglo-Saxon insurers are fucking for greening.

            Quote: cniza
            And for this debt, insurers and guarantors are sooooo serious.

            Well, yes. By the way the GDP arranged these three yards, it’s easier for the bankers to settle quietly with the GDP and you .... dry Velikoukrov for bonds. Noise to raise for bankers - to hang yourself on a kukan, breaking the gesheft scheme with which they feed all over the World. And it is necessary for the sake of some chipoline at the sight of the tundra animal, which the white bear drove them, with the fur inside the mother’s mink twisting and screaming at the same time - Hren get it! I'm at Europe in America and America is with us! wassat
        2. The black
          The black 18 February 2016 07: 31
          12
          Immediately after the release of the prime minister’s chair, Saman Pisyaia expects the unenviable fate of a man who exported Ukraine’s gold reserves to the United States and is a very dangerous and unnecessary witness for Tan. Scarf or tea with radioactive polonium? That's the question. smile ... so you can bet ...
        3. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 18 February 2016 10: 37
          +1
          Where the past is a kakol, the Jew has nothing to do.
        4. marna
          marna 18 February 2016 12: 00
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Most recently, Yatsenyuk said, I quote-We restructured 15 billion debt on loans that we did not take. Before that, even Mavrodi did not think of that.

          I will not be surprised to hear in the near future that Russia took from an independent 3 billion dollars.
      2. kuz363
        kuz363 18 February 2016 07: 32
        0
        The result will be in 3-5 years minimum. More important is the time when Ukraine will repay the debt, if awarded. Most likely it will be reckoned for years and decades. Indeed, the compensation of debts in the form of property or land is not provided for in international relations. We can say that Russia simply lost this money. After all, if the power in Ukraine suddenly changes to good and they again become brothers, then how can brothers be required to repay a debt? Forgive unambiguously and still give.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 February 2016 08: 17
          +6
          Quote: kuz363
          Indeed, the compensation of debts in the form of property or land is not provided for in international relations.



          Are you serious? belay , do not be lazy look and read the conditions and who is the guarantor.
        2. avt
          avt 18 February 2016 15: 38
          0
          Quote: kuz363
          The result will be in 3-5 years minimum.

          laughing Actually, you have not even caught up with the charm of the situation - A SOVEREIGN DEFAULT BEGINS FROM THE MOMENT OF SUBMITTING A SUIT TO THE COURT!
          Quote: kuz363
          . More important is the time when Ukraine will repay the debt, if awarded.

          When they award it, the ass will be completely independent, because you can simply block state property and accounts wherever London law applies.
          Quote: kuz363
          . Indeed, the compensation of debts in the form of property or land is not provided for in international relations.

          It is envisaged to sell the seized state property in court money, again
          Quote: kuz363
          More important is the period when Ukraine will repay the debt

          The debt may, in agreement with the bondholder, be returned by the one under whose guarantees the bonds were issued, but then the specific banking house that insured the transaction will already tear up the debts, but not Russia. will give. “But there is one more suggestion that Cook was eaten out of great-oh-oh-oh-oh respect .." It is quite possible that we agreed with the Euryopians - just in such a situation there is a very specific reason not to lend to the Ruin at all.
      3. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 18 February 2016 07: 50
        +7
        I just don’t understand why they lost in vain a month and a half. Hoping that Ukraine changed his mind? Naive.
      4. Nehist
        Nehist 18 February 2016 07: 54
        -18 qualifying.
        Scams? Yes, I don’t see the point of blowing a corrupt court !!! Again, our government decided to comply with international rules! Yes, as much as possible !!! Liberast prime minister and liberalist pridedent !!! Two stupid dummies in a chair change ...
        1. Boos
          Boos 18 February 2016 08: 30
          -10 qualifying.
          How can you talk about lights like that? One of them is the Sun God, delighting dear Russians with a wise face, and the second God the Moon shines with reflections from the first! Tighten your belts and do not swing the galley.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 18 February 2016 08: 52
            10
            Quote: Boos
            How can you talk about lights like that? One of them is the Sun God, delighting dear Russians with a wise face, and the second God the Moon shines with reflections from the first! Tighten your belts and do not swing the galley.


            Oh, how witty! Unfortunately, I really can’t say anything good about Medvedev, but I don’t need to say anything about Putin, you are not a couple! And he had not yet said his last word, so the grandmother said in two, how it would be there further. Wait and see!

            Quote: Nehist
            Liberast prime minister and liberalist pridedent !!! Two stupid dummies in a chair change ...


            Well, then you obviously have a genius in both geopolitics and economics, I suppose ?!
            1. DMM2006
              DMM2006 18 February 2016 11: 12
              +5
              I agree with a colleague.
              We have homegrown critics, well, just to h..ya. And after all, everyone directly knows exactly what needs to be done, how all of Russia should live, how the president should behave.
              Clever already terribly becomes.
              And especially each of them, well, simply considers his duty to teach the GDP. You see, he’s dumb, and they’re awesome how clever and competent. WELL DIRECTLY TOMORROW TO THE PRESIDENT!
              Somehow people forget in what condition he took the country from Alkash. 80% of manufacturing enterprises did not work, half of them were simply ruined. Sex of the country in concessions nuggle-saxes. Social in full th..ne.
              Yes, now there are also problems and stocks. Especially the great liberal iPhone.
              But if its GDP has not yet been bled somewhere, then there is a reason for this. One cannot assume that each of us has the same information as the President of Russia.
              I think that the time will come and the GDP will make sure that each of these peppers of the iPhone team gets what it deserves: from exile to an accident.
              And you can only afford to criticize the actions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief only when you, having the full range of information that he possesses, can find a solution to a particular problem better than he offers.
              And since there are no such among these balabol, it is advisable that they cover their mouths, so that they can solve their problems and do not go where they sort out a pig in oranges.
            2. Djuma
              Djuma 18 February 2016 14: 33
              +1
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Quote: Nehist
              Liberast prime minister and liberalist pridedent !!! Two stupid dummies in a chair change ...

              Well, then you obviously have a genius in both geopolitics and economics, I suppose ?!


              Yeah, and in Russian too.
            3. Boos
              Boos 18 February 2016 15: 22
              -1
              I am not a genius in the economy, but not a genius in patronizing the thieves that make up the elite of Putin's Russia. I do not respect Putin, because he deceived my expectations, and he also lies and avoids direct and uncomfortable questions. I am for Great Russia, and there is nothing for people like Putin to do in it.
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 18 February 2016 09: 00
          +6
          Quote: Nehist
          prident

          Yes, it is necessary to make such "scientists" who make two mistakes in one word as a president.
          1. 13 warrior
            13 warrior 18 February 2016 09: 19
            -8
            You don't know Russian well! The word "PRESIDENT" has the test word "prezik". )) Or Nehist specifically changed the prefix to "pre-" in order to raise the GDP to a superlative degree (wise, enormous). laughing
            1. 13 warrior
              13 warrior 18 February 2016 13: 01
              0
              Well, I picked up the cons, once again. But at least one person explained "why and why." Did you not like the banter at a person who does not know the spelling of the word "pridedent"? Or do you think in this way to protect Putin from discussing his personality?
              Everyone can put cons, especially on the network, but this is not an indicator of either my baseness, or your superiority, gentlemen-comrades. )))
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 18 February 2016 13: 58
                0
                I did not put a minus for you (and not only for you), but I ask you to read your previous comment and the comment of Nehist more carefully: "liberal pridedent"!
                1. 13 warrior
                  13 warrior 18 February 2016 14: 46
                  0
                  Those. I also had to ridicule the word "liberast" in my commentary?))
                  By the way, I’m not much mistaken if I say that GDP nevertheless recognizes the value of liberalism. As an example: LDPR has not yet been banned, and rights with the freedoms of citizens are not subject to repression. Another question is that supremacy is correctly indicated in our Constitution: first, the interests of the state, and then the rights and freedoms of citizens.
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 18 February 2016 15: 18
                    0
                    When will you delve into your comments! The fact is that Nehist changed the prefix not to "pre", but to "at". Correctly spelled: PRESIDENT, not "president".
        3. Djuma
          Djuma 18 February 2016 14: 32
          0
          Quote: Nehist
          Scams? Yes, I don’t see the point of blowing a corrupt court !!! Again, our government decided to comply with international rules! Yes, as much as possible !!! Liberast prime minister and liberalist pridedent !!! Two stupid dummies in a chair change ...


          O Great, the Cleverest and the Most Literate! Tell us stupid people what to do in this situation? Well, I want to purely laugh.
      5. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 18 February 2016 10: 37
        0
        Well, we win this business and then ??? Ruins beyond the hillock have almost no property, so there’s nothing to take from the rogue, what will they pay for ??? If the current they are declared bankrupt and the IMF will not give loans ..... they already pissed off at home ....
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 18 February 2016 15: 32
          0
          Interesting. The decision of this court in favor of Ukraine may turn the entire global financial system. Investor confidence will plummet, not to mention the central banks of all countries.
          And if you win the Russian Federation, then all accounts abroad of the central bank will be seized. Other government assets abroad will also be arrested. The trust of the population and foreign. investors to banks and state-wu will be blown up. The weakening of the hryvnia will begin at times. Many small banks and small enterprises go bankrupt. Investors will lose money, savings will depreciate. A sharp jump in unemployment and falling living standards. Gos. assets in the economy will depreciate sharply. Gos. enterprises will go for a penny. Perhaps that is why the Kiev authorities are going to carry out large-scale privatization in order to have time to merge more expensive. hi
  2. avvg
    avvg 18 February 2016 06: 43
    +3
    "Dill" is not going to return the debt to us, it will be a waste of time.
    1. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs 18 February 2016 08: 18
      +2
      And what to do? Kiev bomb? They will give, they will not go anywhere.
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 18 February 2016 09: 23
        +1
        Each self-respecting and their Fatherland Svidomo or Svidomo will go to Moscow and work. lol
    2. DMM2006
      DMM2006 18 February 2016 11: 27
      +1
      The question is not what they have nothing to give, and not that they do not want to do this. GDP is doing everything right with respect to this debt, believe a person of 20 years who has been dealing with the problems of arbitration proceedings.
      Now the fundamental thing is the need to once again poke Pindo .. the people and their liberal .. allies from the geyropa into an unsolvable dilemma in which whatever solution they choose, the problems will be necessary.
      They will refuse to consider or even refuse to sue. Perfectly! Ours around the world will raise a butch: LOOK! THEY AGAIN VIOLATED THE RULES FOR WHICH THEY ARE MAKING YOU LIVE!
      And this is another pebble in favor of the multipolar world order system that we and the Chinese are proposing, built on international treaties, and not on the dictates of one famous country.
      Well, if you still consider and satisfy. Good too! You can safely declare: LOOK THE MATTRESSES SUPPORT OPENLY THIEF MODE IN THE RUIN!
      And that is typical in both cases, it will be absolutely LEGAL and justified.
      So in vain you about the time spent in my opinion everything is absolutely logical.
  3. Vladislav
    Vladislav 18 February 2016 06: 44
    +4
    I’m afraid that even after the court’s decision on payment, Ukraine will still not pay
    1. ICT
      ICT 18 February 2016 07: 20
      +5
      Quote: Vladislav
      I’m afraid that even after the court’s decision on payment, Ukraine will still not pay


      I somehow found data that the debt was reinsured several times (European insurance companies) against non-return, so we’ll look
      1. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 18 February 2016 07: 55
        0
        Gossip.
        Debts on the issuer's bonds do not insure. Risks can be voluntarily insured by the owner, in this case Russia, but if we did, most likely the interest on bonds would not cover the cost of insurance.
        1. ICT
          ICT 18 February 2016 20: 06
          0
          Quote: Nikolai K
          Gossip.

          maybe not arguing


          Quote: Nikolai K
          Risks may be voluntarily insured by the owner, in this case Russia

          that’s what it was written
          that the type of debt issued in Ireland is insured against non-return, plus the insurer is insured (from memory)
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 18 February 2016 07: 46
      +1
      Quote: Vladislav
      I’m afraid that even after the court’s decision on payment, Ukraine will still not pay

      He may not pay in real money, because the country is bankrupt. But we don’t insist on this, understanding the gravity of the situation of "Tse Evropa". We can take territories. Mariupol, for example.
      1. 13 warrior
        13 warrior 18 February 2016 08: 16
        +2
        But here, as in the proverb: he will eat, but who will give him? Repayment of debts by territories is not provided for by international law.
    3. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 08: 24
      -4
      Quote: Vladislav
      I’m afraid that even after the court’s decision on payment, Ukraine will still not pay

      She will calmly say that she doesn’t recognize the decision (if she loses), the question is different, and if we suppose Russia loses, what steps will she take?
      the court is the case, each side has its trump cards, arguments and evidence.
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 18 February 2016 08: 37
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        and if we suppose Russia loses, what steps will it take?

        what
        I propose then to bomb those who addicted am . Moreover, some of them have dreamed about this since childhood ... yes
        Hi Sasha! hi
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2016 11: 31
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          I propose then to bomb those who addicted. Moreover, some of them have dreamed about this since childhood ...

          Hi . Yuri.
          From today, I am changing the location and appearance. Every night I will spend the night in a new place, for all my wife's questions - I will refer to your comment.
          soldier tongue
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 18 February 2016 13: 52
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Every night I will spend the night in a new place, for all my wife's questions - I will refer to your comment.

            And then slipped out ... sad
            But on hahlov we will manage to find anyway:
            Banderlog tried to block Russian trucks in Transcarpathia - immediately followed by a ban for Ukrainian trucks to cross the Russian border. Rather, not immediately, but when Kiev, instead of dispersing the homeless people who did it, "supported the initiative of the patriots." At the same time, the passage of Ukrainian vessels through the Kerch Strait was blocked. And the reason for this in stock is also reinforced concrete - protecting the bridge under construction from possible terrorist attacks by Turkish puppets, using Ukrainian ships as a cover. Dzhemilev and Islyamov talked about various threats enough for this (and you and I know that this is an idle talk on their part, and it’s quite suitable as a basis for closing shipping). Thus, Mariupol is losing its economic importance, both for Ukraine as a whole, and for Kolomoisky and Akhmetov in particular. And this blockade makes it difficult for them to do business, trimming the already insignificant income base.

            Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/70278-dolzhok-udushenie-ukrainy-maydana-prodolzhaet

            sya.html
            Politikus.ru
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      2. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 18 February 2016 09: 18
        0
        And what kind of "trump cards" and "proofs" can be if they took a loan (and no one denies this), but they do not want to give it back ..? Refusal of legal succession of the state as a whole? For God's sake... laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2016 10: 46
          0
          Quote: Observer 33
          And what kind of "trump cards" and "proofs" can be if they took a loan (and no one denies this), but they do not want to give it back ..? Refusal of legal succession of the state as a whole? For God's sake... laughing

          We will see during the trial.
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 18 February 2016 10: 52
            0
            Well let's see, of course.
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  4. Sly
    Sly 18 February 2016 06: 45
    +1
    default, no?
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 18 February 2016 07: 42
      +4
      Many countries were in default, and Russia including in the 90s. Well, people then began to live worse, unemployment, lack of goods ... But they survived. And Ukraine will survive. It was then that the current millionaires, who are now oligarchs, bought up cheap property. True, where did they get the initial capital - the authorities are silent.
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 18 February 2016 09: 19
      0
      So they are in defod ...
  5. rov81
    rov81 18 February 2016 06: 51
    +4
    Accustomed to a freebie. You have to pay for everything. Let their friends help them to crawl out of ... Letting go of everything for the price of Europartners, they are striving there. And the best discounts and benefits for our citizens to provide! We remember others, forget about our own!
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 18 February 2016 06: 52
    +6
    The decision is absolutely correct. Behind us should be the legal justification of our claims, confirmed by those authorities that Europe cannot but recognize. It will be possible to rot further the Ruin on a completely legal basis. And the more lost second-hand claims will be lost, the better: the decision will not be made by some referendum of savage Aboriginal people in Crimea or South Ossetia, but by a fully recognized European court. And with such things, light elves do not really like to argue.
  7. EvgNik
    EvgNik 18 February 2016 06: 52
    +7
    It’s a paradox, but by suing Russia it saves Ukraine from more serious consequences. From the new tranche of the IMF, and if it doesn’t, there will probably be no new round of war.
  8. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 18 February 2016 06: 53
    +3
    Well, finally they gave birth, only some vague doubts about a positive result!
  9. SAM 5
    SAM 5 18 February 2016 06: 53
    +2
    After the first negative response of Ukraine on debt, it was necessary to immediately sue. It’s obvious that with this gang it’s not possible to decide for the good.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 07: 08
      -3
      Quote: SAM 5
      After the first negative response of Ukraine on debt, it was necessary to immediately sue. It’s obvious that with this gang it’s not possible to decide for the good.

      And if Ukraine does not recognize the court decision?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 February 2016 07: 20
        +9
        Quote: atalef
        And if Ukraine does not recognize the court decision?

        Sanya wink
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2016 07: 59
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          And if Ukraine does not recognize the court decision?

          Sanya wink

          Hey . Sanya.
          And if Ukraine declares. What does not recognize the legitimacy of this court in resolving property disputes between Ukraine and Russia?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 February 2016 15: 42
            0
            Quote: atalef
            And if Ukraine declares. What does not recognize the legitimacy of this court in resolving property disputes between Ukraine and Russia?

            Is healthy hi So this, they themselves sued us there laughing
      2. kuz363
        kuz363 18 February 2016 07: 48
        0
        Have you tried to sue a debtor who has no money? The court will award, and he will say - I admit the court decision, I do not refuse to pay. But only to the best of his ability. Also, Ukraine. To whom will it return the debt faster - to the IMF or Russia? That's the whole answer
      3. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 18 February 2016 08: 10
        +2
        The main thing is that the court recognizes its decisions. Now, if you do not recognize the court decision, who will be interested in this? There are bailiffs and they will do their work.
        Ukraine is also unlikely to voluntarily enforce a court decision. But firstly, for the Western world it is savagery and consequently reputational losses for Ukraine. Secondly, it is possible to foreclose on foreign assets of Ukraine. True, this good is not enough for them. But a matter of principle.
      4. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 18 February 2016 09: 20
        +2
        Arrest Ukrainian property abroad ...
  10. V.ic
    V.ic 18 February 2016 06: 53
    0
    "The law is that the tongue, where you turned - there it went" / Russian proverb /.
    "A gentleman is the master of his word - he can give it, but he can also take it back" / English proverb /.
  11. stayer
    stayer 18 February 2016 07: 02
    +2
    Prior to this, many questions were asked, why Russia does not sue? After all, the deadline was December 30. I think that ours were waiting for the report of the government on February 16 and the departure of Yatsenyuk. However, since he stayed, there was no sense in waiting any longer. The next day, Russia sued. IMHO of course.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 18 February 2016 07: 50
      0
      Before suing, you must try to negotiate with the debtor for good. This condition must be met.
  12. tor978
    tor978 18 February 2016 07: 03
    -7
    Ukraine will not pay Russia's debt. I would not be surprised if Ukraine wins the court, and then Russia will have to pay not 3 lard, but 30 and will do everything legally, "sirs" can do it.
  13. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 18 February 2016 07: 04
    0
    Just look at the portraits of these "prominent leaders of Ukraine". For these faces, this appeal to the court means absolutely nothing. They have probably already thought of something heroic to announce their new peramogue over Russia.
  14. sl22277
    sl22277 18 February 2016 07: 05
    +3
    Moscow will not forgive the debt of Ukropia, and will not take part in debt restructuring, for it is not obliged. However, to honestly admit insolvency and ask for help from Russia, which they openly call the "aggressor country", the Ukrainian authorities are politically disadvantageous. During the USSR, fed at his expense. How it broke up - they climbed to the other side to lick faster, if only they gave the cookie. Neither their own policies, nor their own dignity.
  15. slava84
    slava84 18 February 2016 07: 06
    +2
    They will not give the "grandmother", it is necessary to take "health" from them laughing
  16. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 February 2016 07: 07
    +1
    And what? Right now, Kiev will urgently give us all the debts with interest? They spat on a London court - you just need to take the territories back to the country - and push the entire national shushary from the revived lands away - to the EU or Poland. ..
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2016 07: 07
    +1
    So what will we wait for a fair and unbiased decision of the London court. But still, some doubts creep in about not bias.
  18. Masya masya
    Masya masya 18 February 2016 07: 11
    +3
    Better late than never...
  19. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 18 February 2016 07: 12
    0
    I hope that the law firm was chosen responsibly, and these are not charlatans and not friends of Russian "cash flow managers".

    And at least I would like to count on the minimum objectivity of the court; Azarov is available, has nothing to do with uk-rams - so let him give evidence in London.
  20. Wolka
    Wolka 18 February 2016 07: 18
    +2
    the fact that the lawsuit was filed is certainly good, but the fact that our interests in court will be represented by the London law firm is somehow alarming that our lawyers were transferred ...
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 18 February 2016 07: 53
      +1
      And their lawyers are illiterate. At least take Gazprom's lawyers. How many lawsuits have European countries won on gas prices, the take-or-pay principle .... Although both prices and the principle are recorded in gas supply contracts
    2. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 18 February 2016 08: 14
      0
      So this is "ours". You have to make money here too.
  21. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 February 2016 07: 34
    +1
    We will observe with interesting convulsions the descendants of Bandera! fellow
  22. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 18 February 2016 07: 43
    +1
    Quote: trenitron
    The process is likely to drag on for a very long time, despite the fact that the fact of Ukraine’s cheating is simply obvious


    In principle, it doesn’t matter to us how long the process will take, nobody stops the interest rate counter. The main thing is to defend that very evidence.
  23. 2014ya.ru
    2014ya.ru 18 February 2016 07: 45
    0
    Again, the geyropa will decide whether to pay the dill debt to Russia or not, but where is our Arbitration Court?
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 18 February 2016 08: 17
      0
      Your arbitration court probably drinks beer while fishing. Or did you mean some other court? I have not heard about the arbitration clause in terms of the issue of bonds.
  24. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 18 February 2016 07: 48
    +1
    Quote: Volka
    the fact that the lawsuit was filed is certainly good, but the fact that our interests in court will be represented by the London law firm is somehow alarming that our lawyers were transferred ...


    The tactics, in my opinion, are correct. This will complicate the politicization of the process. And the task of our lawyers is to correctly substantiate the lawsuit.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 08: 26
      -2
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Quote: Volka
      the fact that the lawsuit was filed is certainly good, but the fact that our interests in court will be represented by the London law firm is somehow alarming that our lawyers were transferred ...


      The tactics, in my opinion, are correct. This will complicate the politicization of the process. And the task of our lawyers is to correctly substantiate the lawsuit.

      This riley does not play, whose lawyers. And I think in these disputes the qualifications of London lawyers will be higher.
      Although who knows, the court lost to Yukos and refused to pay - however, it is a precedent.
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 18 February 2016 10: 54
        0
        Yukos trial continues ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2016 11: 20
          0
          Quote: Observer 33
          Yukos trial continues ...

          It has already ended, the appeal will not play any role, as Russian experts recognize its chances as zero.
  25. Evil 55
    Evil 55 18 February 2016 07: 56
    0
    Well, that’s right .. There’s nothing to feed insolent dishonesty ...
  26. Baloo
    Baloo 18 February 2016 08: 10
    +1
    They won't give it up. The FSA ambassador will shuffle the deck and each ace and king will blame the previous ones. The degree of dependence of Nalyvaychenko and Turchinov on the ambassador is not yet clear. These two jokers can represent the interests of other groups of "friends of Ukraine".
  27. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 February 2016 08: 41
    +1
    If I remember correctly, there is a debt collection option
    from transfers and credit tranches towards Ukraine.
    That is, the IMF allocates a loan, which in court is wrapped up for us.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 09: 07
      -4
      Quote: Zomanus
      If I remember correctly, there is a debt collection option
      from transfers and credit tranches towards Ukraine.
      That is, the IMF allocates a loan, which in court is wrapped up for us.

      Offsets? There's no such thing.
      Otherwise, imagine the situation, Yukos shareholders redeem debt from Ukraine at a discount of 70%. (Suppose) they get real money and they say to Russia, well now you owe us not 50 billion, but all 47.
  28. Eustace
    Eustace 18 February 2016 08: 47
    0
    Finally ripe! I really thought that once again we will bend.
  29. Batia
    Batia 18 February 2016 09: 08
    0
    [quote = kuz363] The result will be a minimum in 3-5 years. More important is the time when Ukraine will repay the debt, if awarded. Most likely it will be reckoned for years and decades. Indeed, the compensation of debts in the form of property or land is not provided for in international relations. We can say that Russia simply lost this money. After all, if the power in Ukraine suddenly changes to good and they again become brothers, then how can brothers be required to repay a debt? Forgive unambiguously and still give. [/ Quote]

    Forgive unambiguously and still give. [/ Quote] IN THE Muzzle!
  30. Svetovod
    Svetovod 18 February 2016 09: 28
    0
    This will probably end badly for the "high-court". Between a rock and a hard place.
  31. triglav
    triglav 18 February 2016 09: 58
    0
    I wonder how the High Court of London will behave in this situation. Will he discredit himself?
  32. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 18 February 2016 10: 11
    0
    Quote: atalef
    suppose Russia loses

    And why is it interesting, in your opinion, Russia can lose? Well, it is clear, for such "guardians" as you, this is the desired result.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 11: 23
      -1
      Quote: Alget87
      Quote: atalef
      suppose Russia loses

      And why is it interesting, in your opinion, Russia can lose? Well, it is clear, for such "guardians" as you, this is the desired result.

      Well, it’s all the same to me, why can it lose?
      So the court, no one knows (today) what counterarguments of Ukraine.
      The court is a delicate matter, the comma was not put there --- and in flight.
      In fact, one of the allegations of the Ukrainian side is that the money just stupidly did not arrive. Yanek stole them even before entering the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine.
  33. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 18 February 2016 10: 14
    0
    Residents of the outskirts can only arrange a Bolshevik coup, nationalize everything and pay off the property of the oligarchs. smile
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 February 2016 10: 29
      0
      Quote: Volzhanin
      it remains only to arrange a Bolshevik coup, nationalize everything and pay off the property of the oligarchs.

      Point to the sponsors of the lads you indicated: the addresses of J. Schiff, Kuhn and Leeb, and will you work as Parvus / Gelfand?
  34. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 18 February 2016 10: 33
    0
    Quote: atalef
    And if Ukraine does not recognize the court decision?

    Quote: atalef
    And if Ukraine declares. What does not recognize the legitimacy of this court in resolving property disputes between Ukraine and Russia?

    Quote: atalef
    Although who knows, the court lost to Yukos and refused to pay - however, it is a precedent.

    And if Russia will forgive everyone for all its debts, and then Greece, and so on and so forth, pilat, your komenty- kindergarten, the younger group, are not you ashamed? It’s like to position yourself on the site as a knowledgeable person, write smart comments here, and now here you’re sorry for the expression, you’re talking crap. with such guarantees. Yes, by the way, and according to Yukos at the moment, everything is not so clear.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 11: 28
      -1
      Quote: Alget87
      And if Russia will forgive everyone for all its debts, and there Greece and so on and so forth, pilat, your komenty- kindergarten

      This is not a kindergarten. Russia lost court in Yukos and refused to pay
      Quote: Alget87
      younger group, not ashamed?

      No, that's why I wrote - the applicant
      Quote: Alget87
      It seems to position yourself on the site as a knowledgeable person, write smart comments here, and now here it is, sorry for the expression, you’re carrying crap

      In what?
      Quote: Alget87
      Yes, by the way, and for Yukos at the moment, everything is not so clear


      Yes ? You kind of burst into such an angry tirade, but in the end you were blown away somehow.
      What is not unique?
      If the loss in court is not straightforward, then what is clear?
  35. Mark68
    Mark68 18 February 2016 10: 55
    +1
    Suppose you won in court, the court decided to pay the debt. What next? The ruin will not pay. How to take a debt from them? No way! OU declared default. Effects? Curtailing foreign investment? Falling quotes of government securities to the level of junk? Arrests of state property abroad? Rising prices for imported goods? National currency devaluation? Default to Ukraine will only be useful. But the Government of Ruins, as always, will go its own way, selectively. We won’t pay Russia type, but we will pay the rest ... And the IMF and the European Union will only assent. Now nobody is following international laws. Only strong is right. If they were afraid, then they paid, and so they wanted to spit.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2016 11: 35
      0
      Quote: Mark68
      Suppose you won in court, the court decided to pay the debt. So? The ruin will not pay. How to take a debt from them?

      Seizure of property abroad
      Quote: Mark68
      no way! OU declared default.

      They will seek what is possible, the rest will be signed for years (in case of default)
      Quote: Mark68
      Falling quotes of government securities to the level of junk?

      They are already trash
      Quote: Mark68
      Rising prices for imported goods?

      If there is anything to import
      Quote: Mark68
      Ukraine default will only be useful

      Relatively but definitely not deadly
      Quote: Mark68
      We won’t pay the type of Russia, but we will definitely pay everyone else

      If they lose in court, it will not work
      Quote: Mark68
      . Now nobody is following international laws. Only strong is right. If they were afraid, then they paid, and so they wanted to spit.

      They perform, even as they perform.
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  36. Scud
    Scud 18 February 2016 11: 34
    +1
    I agree with Mark. It is unlikely that there is such a country on the whole earth, the stubborn Hohland, a rabble of the Nazis and murderers.
  37. Gomel
    Gomel 18 February 2016 11: 42
    0
    two weeks later than expected
  38. vladimirw
    vladimirw 18 February 2016 12: 17
    0
    Well, finally decided.
  39. mamont5
    mamont5 18 February 2016 17: 50
    0
    Quote: trenitron
    The process is likely to drag on for a very long time, despite the fact that the fact of Ukraine’s cheating is simply obvious

    The British su can drag out the matter from the filing of the United States, but it will still be forced to decide on the payment of the debt. Otherwise, it will be a collapse of the global credit system. Another thing is how dill will pay this debt?