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Armies of eastern recruits can go to war only under the white flag


If the armed forces and military-industrial complexes of Ukraine and Belarus are among the largest in Europe (albeit, mainly due to its voluntary disarmament), then the four other neighboring countries of the former USSR still have completely insignificant air forces and zero defense.

Moldova, for example, did not help even the fact that it had to wage a war for Transnistria, and after all, conflicts almost always contribute to the intensification of the construction of the Armed Forces.

Over the Dniester nothing to do


The Moldavian army, already weak, is gradually falling into decay due to extremely insufficient funding. Help from Romania is limited due to the lack of resources on her own. In fact, it all ended with the delivery of the TAV-71 BTR, a certain amount of equipment and equipment. The rest of the weapons of the Armed Forces of Moldova equipment received from the Soviet army.

Ground forces include three infantry - 1-I "Moldova" (Balti), 2-I "Stefan cel Mare" (Chisinau), 3-I "Dacia" (Cahul) and artillery (Prut, Ungheni) brigades, communications regiment "Bessarabia" (Chisinau), battalions - engineering "Codru" (Negreshti), special forces "Fulger" (Chisinau), MTO (Balti), security of the Ministry of Defense (Chisinau). Armed with 44, BNP-1, 115, BNR-9, BNR-6 , 11 D-80), 89 mortars (71 M-9 and M-2, 9 69BXNNUMX and M-17), 30 MRLS "Uragan", 21 ATGM (2 "Fagot”, 36, 31, 20 ATGM, 111, 59 ATGM (43, FNGX, 120). ), 52 anti-tank guns MT-2, 14 anti-aircraft guns (1977 ZU-11, 120 C-72).

The Moldovan air force after the collapse of the USSR represented a significant force, having received the 34 fighter MiG-29. But one of these aircraft was shot down over Transnistria, more than 20 sold to Romania, Yemen and the United States. There are a maximum of nine cars in storage, and they are also supposed to be sold somewhere. Therefore, the Air Force consists only of transport and training aircraft and helicopters. This 1 Yak-40 (1 still stored), 1 Tu-134, 5 6-AN-2, 1 AN-26, 1 Yak-18, about 12 Polish PZL-104, 4 to Ni-8. The ground defense is carried out by the 1 regiment of the S-125 SAMs (12 PU).

Transnistrian armed forces, according to some estimates, have 18 tanks T-64 BV, more than 100 armored personnel carriers, over 70 guns and MLRS "Grad", a significant amount of means of anti-aircraft defense and air defense, 6 attack helicopters Mi-24. This means that the military potential of Moldova is completely insufficient to regain Transnistria by force. Rather, the armed forces of an unrecognized republic can capture at least part of Moldova. True, in this case, Romania will probably come to her aid, which will provoke a major regional conflict. However, while such a development of events seems unlikely. As the Moldovan army continues to gradually degrade, Chisinau will not dare to seize Transnistria by force. Kiev may support the intervention (perhaps it was under such an option that the fiery Russophobe Saakashvili was appointed governor of the Odessa region), but now Brussels, which is already very tired of the Ukrainian conflict, even in its current version, will not allow him to do so. Moreover, Tiraspol will not start a war first.

The current economic situation of Moldova looks frankly catastrophic with a tendency to worsen, so there are no prospects for the restoration of its Armed Forces. Much more likely is the complete political and economic collapse of the state and, accordingly, its army.

In contrast to Moldova, the Baltic countries have long been in NATO and the EU. But it did not bring them economic prosperity, much less military power.

Vilnius Armada

Lithuanian Ground Forces include the 1 and 2 motorized infantry brigades (Iron Wolf, Samogitia under deployment), the 1 engineering battalion. The 11 BRDM-2, the 263 BTR (up to 19, the first 9 years of the first year of the martial 60 Soviet 8B10, 234 Romanian M113, 54 Soviet M-101, 105 Finnish M126D, 42 American Javelin ATGM (including 20 self-propelled Hummers). It is planned to purchase in Germany the 2 BTR “Boxer” of a new construction and the 11 SAU PzH-18 from the order of the Bundeswehr.

The air force has no combat vehicles. There are transport planes: 3 Italian C-27J, 2 Czech L-410, 1 An-2 (still 8 in storage), 3 An-26 in storage. Training: 1 Czech L-39ZA (still 2 L-39С in storage). Helicopters: 4 Mi-8 (and 5 in storage), 1 French AS365N.

ZRK - 21 Swedish RBS-70. MANPADS - 8 American "Stingers", 2 Polish "Thunder". Anti-aircraft guns - 18 Swedish L / 70 (mm 40).

Lithuanian naval forces include a Fluwefisken type Danish patrol 3, a former Norwegian Storm missile boat 1, used as a patrol (still 2 of the same type NN), 1 former Norwegian minelayer Vidar, 4 minesweeper, 2, 90, a former NMN XXNXX, 2, Norwegian mine sweeper, 1124 minesweeper, and 2008 XMNUMX. such as "Hunt" and German type "Lindau"). None of the ships have any rocket armament. At the beginning of the XNUMX, the country received from Russia the XNUMX IPC of the XNUMX project (they became the price paid for Lithuanians to build housing for officers in the Kaliningrad region), which were classified as frigates in the national Navy. Vilnius was going to sell them to Tbilisi, but after the August XNUMX war, NATO imposed a tacit, but extremely tough, embargo on any arms supplies to Georgia, so both ships scrapped.

Riga commandos


Forced non-opponentsLatvian ground forces include one brigade, as well as a special forces detachment. Formally, the country is the only one of the Baltic, in whose army there are tanks. However, these are just three extremely obsolete T-55 used for training purposes, since they do not represent combat value. There are also two no less outdated BRDM-2 (apparently, they have already been written off) and eight American Cougar armored vehicles. It is expected to receive from the British Armed Forces 123 BRM series CVR (T) ("Spartan", "Simiter", etc.). Artillery includes X-NUMX Czech K-26 guns and 53 mortars - X-LUMX English L-68, Soviet M-24 16 and 26 Swedish M-43D Swedish.

There are Israeli Spike 12 ATGMs (this is the only weaponwhich can be called modern) and 2 Swedish RBS-56. The air defense system consists of 24 Swedish RBS-70 and 22 anti-aircraft L / 70 anti-aircraft missiles from the same place.

The Air Force has 4 multipurpose Mi-17, 1 Mi-2 (and approximately 6 in storage), 2 Italian A-109 (in the Border Guard). In addition, the Ank-10 “Kukuruzniki” An-2, the Czechoslovak transport aircraft L-1 and the Polish training PZL-410 are in non-flying state and are kept in a non-flying state.

The naval forces include 11 patrol boats: the 5 newest Skrunda catamarans of their own construction, the Astra 1, and the Swedish 5 type KVV-236. There are also former Norwegian Minzag-type "Vidar" and 5 minesweepers "Imanta" (Dutch "Alkmaar"). The Norwegian Storm type missile boat (without PKR) and the German minesweeper Lindau are used as training ones. Withdrawn from the Navy and still in the sludge still 3 RK "Storm" (also without PKR, used as a sentry) and 2 German trawler "Condor".

Tallinn Monsters


Estonian ground forces include the 1 and 2 infantry brigades.

In 157 APCs arms (20 Soviet BTR-80, 49 Finnish HA-180 and 81 HA-188, 7 South African "Mamba»), 98 towed implements (32 Finnish N61-37, 42 N63 - copy Soviet 122-mm D-30 24, 155, MNG RBS-70 "Bill"), 310 French Mistral MANPADS, 41 Soviet anti-aircraft guns ZU-455. The acquisition of the Swedish BMV CV80 from the Armed Forces of the Netherlands 252 is expected.

The air force is armed with X-NUMX An-2 (still 2 in storage), 1 of Czechoslovak training aircraft L-2C and 39 of American light helicopter R-4. 44 Soviet Mi-1 is in storage. In addition, the border forces have X-NUMX light transport aircraft L-8, 2 Cessna-410, 1 American light helicopter Enstrom-172 and 1 European AW480.

The Navy is made up of X-NUMX ex-English Sandown minesweepers used as patrol ships.

Thus, the total potential of all three Baltic armies is insignificant without a chance to change the situation due to the lack of its own defense and equipment for the purchase of equipment. Even in the plans there are no tanks, MLRS, combat aircraft and helicopters, air defense systems at least medium range, boats with attack weapons, not to mention submarines and warships. From the point of view of waging a classic war, the Baltic Armed Forces can be simply neglected.

Armored cam


Regarding the deployment of NATO troops in these countries, the US is transferring a brigade group from Germany to Eastern Europe, which is armed with 90 tanks Abrams, 140 BMP Bradley, 20 SAU M109A6. If such a group were located in each of the Limits, it would be possible to talk about something, but it would be one not even for three countries, but for the whole of Eastern Europe. That is, very insignificant forces will "spread" from Estonia to Bulgaria. Naturally, this measure has no military significance and is not even a political, but a purely propaganda event. In Western Europe to protect limitrofov no resources, no desire. The United States has resources, but there is definitely no desire.
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  1. azbukin77
    azbukin77 22 February 2016 06: 03
    32
    A screech from the sprats is worth - Mama Do not Cry !!!
    1. Siberia M 54
      Siberia M 54 22 February 2016 06: 21
      26
      Because squealing. From their weakness and worthlessness.
      1. Sensatus
        Sensatus 22 February 2016 07: 42
        36
        Small countries cannot have a strong army by definition. They always need to lean against a strong neighbor for protection. But US policy to impose dull-headed puppets everywhere led to a complete loss of ties with reality in many of our neighbors. Okay, time will put everything in its place.
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 22 February 2016 08: 10
          13
          Quote: Sensatus
          U.S. policy impose everywhere dumb head puppets.. Okay, time will put everything in its place.

          Right! I will only add: he will arrange some, hang some
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 22 February 2016 10: 02
            -32 qualifying.
            No, well, it is better, of course, to have a bloated army of 60.000 heads, as in Belarus, where the soldiers only have to paint the grass and turn the sun on the horizontal bar, because the budget is only enough to feed this entire "army" and to shoot half of the store for the entire period services + a bunch of scrap metal equipment that nobody needs in such a small territory, which only knows how to constantly break
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 22 February 2016 20: 49
              11
              I constantly come across articles by this author Khramchikhin - and always the same

              1) Europe has long been blown away "and NATO is not a threat

              2) But China is the THREAT

              At the same time, there is always half-truth and fraud - like the 2 tank in Europe, it's ridiculously simple - but China has thousands -

              In fact, NATO is a formidable military machine - and if you look not at the fraud - but the real numbers - NATO’s superiority in conventional weapons and (quality and quantity) over Russia is enormous.
              Secondly, NATO is moving east. Russia is surrounded by missile defense - is trying to level the nuclear potential - thereby upset the balance and create conditions for a strike

              These are NATO countries bombing Serbs, Libya Iraq and everyone else. But not China at all

              Conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, the pre-conflict situation with Turkey - these are all NATO

              But Khramchikhin will persistently scare us with China - and reassure about NATO
            2. Polochanin
              Polochanin 23 February 2016 12: 30
              +6
              From where such deep knowledge about all the Armed Forces of Belarus, dear? Have you served in the rapid response, air force, and air defense units? The essence of the draft army is to teach how to handle weapons, the interaction of large masses of armed people and the basic concept of military discipline. It is sad to look at modern youth, for whom the concept of defending the homeland is just wasted in empty time and lost profits.
            3. Alexy
              Alexy 23 February 2016 21: 27
              0
              Where does this information come from ???
        2. Aitvaras
          Aitvaras 22 February 2016 09: 12
          -66 qualifying.
          Finland in 1939, also had a small army, but was able to defend its independence in the northern war from the USSR in 1940, Now, in Lithuania, they are rapidly purchasing modern weapons, German BMP Boxer, anti-tank vehicles, anti-aircraft missiles, etc. The Union of Lithuanian Shooters, received assault rifles NATO. The shooters are mostly hunters. They have their own rifles with optics and night sights. In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing so that Russia would not arrange "our Crimea".
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 22 February 2016 09: 26
            36
            Quote: Aitvaras
            Finland in 1939, also had a small army but was able to defend its independence in the northern military with the USSR in 1940

            Do you really believe that the USSR wanted to occupy Finland, or is it your offended trend to howl such a thing for everyone?
            At these negotiations, for the first time, talk was about the proximity of the border to Leningrad. Joseph Stalin remarked: "We can do nothing with geography, just like you ... Since Leningrad cannot be moved, you have to move the border away from it."

            The version of the agreement presented by the Soviet side was as follows:
            Finland moves the border 90 km from Leningrad.
            Finland agrees to lease the USSR for 30 years to the Hanko Peninsula for the construction of a naval base and the deployment of a four-thousand-strong military contingent there for its defense.
            The Soviet Navy is provided with ports on the Hanko Peninsula in Hanko itself and in Lappohja (Fin.) Russian.
            Finland transfers to the USSR the islands of Hogland, Laavansaari (now Powerful), Tütärsaari and Seiskari.
            The existing Soviet-Finnish non-aggression pact is supplemented by an article on mutual obligations not to join groups and coalitions of states hostile to one or another side.
            Both states disarm their fortifications on the Karelian Isthmus.
            The USSR transfers to Finland the territory in Karelia with a total area twice that of the Finnish territory (5 529 km²).
            The USSR undertakes not to object to the armament of the Aland Islands with Finland's own forces.

            The USSR proposed an exchange of territories in which Finland would have more extensive territories in East Karelia in Rebola and Porajärvi.
            1. Aitvaras
              Aitvaras 22 February 2016 10: 11
              -48 qualifying.
              Immediately after the outbreak of war with Finland, the government of the Finnish Democratic Republic Kuusinen was created in the USSR and it immediately signed a friendship treaty with the USSR, a similar one was signed with Lithuania in 1939. the field of which, Lithuania in 1940. It was annexed. The strong resistance of the Finns made Stalin abandon his plans and soon the communist rule of Kuusinen was dissolved.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 22 February 2016 10: 55
                40
                Quote: Aitvaras
                Immediately after the outbreak of war with Finland, the government of the Finnish Democratic Republic Kuusinen was created in the USSR and it immediately signed a friendship treaty with the USSR, a similar one was signed with Lithuania in 1939. the field of which, Lithuania in 1940. It was annexed. The strong resistance of the Finns made Stalin abandon his plans and soon the communist rule of Kuusinen was dissolved.

                You add too much value to yourself if you assume that Russia needs you.
                I can bet on Hennessy’s box that in 20 years you will not be your nationality at all !!! Your cultural code will disappear in Europe, it will simply be washed out by immigrants and flight to Europe to earn money for the younger generation.
                It would be better to build an independent state in place of the victim’s rotten idea, otherwise you had to meet your representative in Italy with a cigarette butts cleaner on the beach (I don’t even know you yourself are not of a nationality - do you think you are a race?). Take care of your future generation better !!!
              2. Seal
                Seal 22 February 2016 12: 22
                24
                The resolute resistance of the Finns made Stalin abandon his plans

                Let me try to explain to you.
                First. Initially, Stalin did not at all intend to Sovietize Finland, since Lenin gave her independence. Stalin's original plan was ... well, read what the USSR offered Finland in 1939. It was a realistic Plan R (reality).

                Second. But when Finland refused to make concessions to the USSR, a less realistic and, frankly, an adventurous plan of Sovietization of Finland emerged, which is what the "Kuusinen Government" was created in the USSR. This is Plan B (voluntarism)

                The resistance (yes, heroic resistance) of the Finns clearly demonstrated the adventurousness of the "B" plan. Therefore, when the Government of Finland asked for peace, in fact admitting his loss, Stalin himself abandoned plan "B" (voluntarism) and limited himself to the implementation of plan "R" (reality). Which, by the way, acquired the status of the P + plan. Since if the plan "R" assumed the exchange of territories, then according to the plan R + the USSR received decently more than it was supposed to receive according to the plan P, and without any territorial compensation to the Finns.

                That is, the initial plan of I. Stalin regarding Finland was fulfilled and exceeded. And he abandoned the essentially voluntary plan for the complete Sovietization of Finland, which had accidentally arisen on the wave of cap-occupation.
                1. Omelchuk
                  Omelchuk 22 February 2016 12: 58
                  -23 qualifying.
                  Quote: Seal
                  The first one. Initially, Stalin did not intend to Sovietize Finland at all, since Lenin gave it independence. Stalin's initial plan was.

                2. Ze Kot
                  Ze Kot 22 February 2016 22: 20
                  0
                  And Stalin went to an armed clash only after the military convinced him that they would easily defeat the Finnish army. Deceived ...
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 22 February 2016 23: 18
                    +6
                    Quote: The Cat
                    And Stalin went to an armed clash only after the military convinced him that they would easily defeat the Finnish army. Deceived ...

                    This is not entirely true - the chief of staff, Marshal Shaposhnikov, was extremely against the conduct of hostilities only by the forces of the Special Leningrad Military District and insisted that in order to carry out such an operation it was necessary to concentrate a certain grouping. But such "comrades" as the unforgettable Klim Voroshilov stood on the fact that everything could be done without serious preparation, they say, the Finns have no army anyway, while not taking into account the mood in Finland, or the natural conditions in which they should have fought. And Stalin, alas, agreed to this purest adventure. Such people also have tragic mistakes ...
              3. Alf
                Alf 22 February 2016 16: 40
                14
                Quote: Aitvaras
                Immediately after the outbreak of war with Finland, the government of the Finnish Democratic Republic Kuusinen was created in the USSR and it immediately signed a friendship treaty with the USSR, a similar one was signed with Lithuania in 1939. the field of which, Lithuania in 1940. It was annexed. The strong resistance of the Finns made Stalin abandon his plans and soon the communist rule of Kuusinen was dissolved.

                After the breakthrough of the Enkel line, Finland did not have any army or fortifications for which the remnants of the Finnish army could cling. Say thanks to Stalin that he fought to move the border, and not for the accession of Finland. After the LE breakthrough, Mannerheim announced in the government that it is urgent to make peace with the USSR at any cost, since the army is no longer able to fight.
                1. novel66
                  novel66 22 February 2016 18: 42
                  +7
                  give the line mushrooming !!!!
                2. Aljavad
                  Aljavad 22 February 2016 21: 47
                  10
                  After the LE breakthrough, Mannerheim announced in the government that it is urgent to make peace with the USSR at any cost, since the army is no longer able to fight.


                  In no way do I want to belittle the heroism of the Red Army.
                  But Suomi and the USSR are frankly in different categories. And the victory of the Finns - not even a fantasy - is nonsense.
                  The Finns did not set themselves such tasks. The strategy was to hold out until the Allied approach (England at that time). England did not come. And Stalin laid down on the League of Nations.
                  Their feat is how MUCH they held out.
                  Mannerheim (a competent general of the imperial school) built his own brand line in advance. And the national army. Very compact (affordable), but equipped and trained. This army fought on equal terms with the Red Army until the resources ran out.
                  ... And the allies did not catch up ...
                  Kunar (4) KZ Today, 10:24 ↑ New
                  Well, what it led to, we all know! Morality: It is necessary to negotiate with the boss. As it has ALWAYS been in world politics. For centuries, the destinies of small countries have been decided by big ones. And it seems that this cannot be changed
                  1. KaPToC
                    KaPToC 22 February 2016 22: 32
                    +2
                    The Finnish Army was not as compact as you are trying to convince us, the Red Army did not have a decisive numerical superiority in Finland.
                    1. Cap.Morgan
                      Cap.Morgan 23 February 2016 00: 46
                      0
                      In tanks and aircraft, superiority was 30-40 times.
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                  2. not main
                    not main 22 February 2016 23: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Aljavad
                    Mannerheim (a competent general of the imperial school) built his own brand line in advance. And the national army. Very compact (affordable), but equipped and trained. This army fought on equal terms with the Red Army until the resources ran out.

                    That's right! But only the military campaigns in November do not start (at least north of the 60th parallel), the RKKA’s unwillingness to maintain a database in such conditions was the result!
              4. n.kolesnichenko
                n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 07
                0
                We will establish a new "capital" in Visaginas !!!
            2. Kunar
              Kunar 22 February 2016 10: 24
              +5
              Well, what it led to, we all know! Morality: It is necessary to negotiate with the boss. As it has ALWAYS been in world politics. For centuries, the destinies of small countries have been decided by big ones. And it seems that this cannot be changed
          2. Banshee
            Banshee 22 February 2016 09: 31
            37
            Quote: Aitvaras
            In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing for Russia to unsettled "our Crimea".


            Crimea is written with a capital letter. In any case, by the way, since it is larger than your huge Lithuania. Nevertheless, we Lithuania with a capital letter.

            As for Operation Lithuania is Ours, I suspect that everything that hangs out at the Russian-Lithuanian border, if necessary, will not even notice your forest brothers brigades super-armed with modern NATO rifles.

            On the other hand, and we need it?
            1. sibiryouk
              sibiryouk 22 February 2016 18: 10
              +7
              Once again about the value of Lithuania - "0". Only the geographical location (near the borders of Russia and Belarus) is of value!
              1. kumaxa
                kumaxa 23 February 2016 05: 16
                0
                while the Inalinskaya nuclear power plant was robust! no, no. Yankee something obsessed with them. Yes, they showed something !!! They divorced suckers to lose their sparkle and they buy one in the geyrop! Yyy! Stupid people are not relevant! TFA! lol
          3. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 22 February 2016 09: 49
            +7
            Well, build a "Great Wall of Lithuania" like the Mannerheim Line .. I wish you all to make a hernia on this ..
          4. dgiguli1962
            dgiguli1962 22 February 2016 09: 54
            +7
            , even if you yourself ask, are not needed for nothing.
            1. Aitvaras
              Aitvaras 22 February 2016 10: 23
              -34 qualifying.
              The Vice Speaker of the State Duma, Zhirinovsky, constantly states that Russia will soon return its original Baltic lands, and his ideas in Russia enjoy great support, including in HE. Specifically, Viktor.N. Aleksandrov 17. February 2016 18.27 a why they need Lithuanian lands, you can personally ask them
              1. VB
                VB 22 February 2016 11: 04
                48
                Information for consideration: Estonia was sold to Russia, following the results of the war with Sweden. Anna Ioannovna brought Latvia to Russia as a dowry. I hope you do not question the inheritance received from your parents? How are states different from families? Lithuania was acquired by Russia following the partition of Poland. Who gave you independence? Illegitimate Lenin. Who gave you Vilnius, Klaipeda, Druskeninkai? Stalin. And you demolished them. Lenin and Stalin should be the national heroes of Lithuania. If you are so independent in Lithuania, then return Klaipeda, Vilnius and Druskeninkai, it’s not yours, but there’s nothing to say about Latvia and Estonia, it’s legal, historical, hereditary, legally justified Russian land.
                1. Aitvaras
                  Aitvaras 22 February 2016 11: 37
                  -36 qualifying.
                  The independence of Lithuania was a condition presented by Germany -Soviet Russia, at the signing of the Brest Peace in 1918 and not the good will of V.I. Lenin. Vilnius - the capital of Lithuania was recognized by Soviet Russia when signing a peace treaty with Lithuania in 1920. On the return of Vilnius, occupied by Poland, it was the fulfillment of contractual obligations on the part of the USSR to Lithuania. On the original Baltic lands, then in the Polyanovsky Eternal Peace, concluded in 1634 - between Tsarist Russia, Lithuania and Poland - Smolensk is Lithuanian land, that is. we also have all the legal justifications for the inheritance.
                  1. ilyaros
                    ilyaros 22 February 2016 11: 57
                    36
                    You have never had your own statehood. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia are quasi-states with external control. They can exist only as satellites - either Russia or the West. As for the "Soviet occupation" - before the revolution and the collapse of the empire, your entire upper class was made up of ethnic Germans. Today you again ran to yesterday's masters - history repeats itself.
                    1. kumaxa
                      kumaxa 23 February 2016 05: 19
                      +2
                      Yes, do not lose, they rushed over the ocean-to-sea to new more rich hosts! licked! but they didn’t become richer and more consolidated !!!
                  2. Seal
                    Seal 22 February 2016 12: 36
                    24
                    Smolensk is a Lithuanian land, that is. we also have all the legal justifications for the inheritance.

                    That's just a problem. Present-day Lithuania is not at all the successor of the Most Holy Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth of Poland - the official name of the Polish state, which operated throughout the 17th century and further until the partition of Poland.

                    Since the XVII century, the name Polish Most Holy Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (Polish Najjaśniejsza Rzeczpospolita Polska; Latin Serenissima Res Publica Poloniae) has been used to designate the state of Poland.
                    There is no word "Lithuania" in it.
                    Your "legal claims" are insignificant, because they are based on literary fantasies.
                  3. dmi.pris
                    dmi.pris 22 February 2016 12: 59
                    12
                    Welcome to Smolensk at the Severny airfield .. Air ticket at a discount ... Some especially proud ones have already flown ..
                    Quote: Aitvaras
                    The independence of Lithuania was a condition presented by Germany -Soviet Russia, at the signing of the Brest Peace in 1918 and not the good will of V.I. Lenin. Vilnius - the capital of Lithuania was recognized by Soviet Russia when signing a peace treaty with Lithuania in 1920. On the return of Vilnius, occupied by Poland, it was the fulfillment of contractual obligations on the part of the USSR to Lithuania. On the original Baltic lands, then in the Polyanovsky Eternal Peace, concluded in 1634 - between Tsarist Russia, Lithuania and Poland - Smolensk is Lithuanian land, that is. we also have all the legal justifications for the inheritance.
                  4. Kaiten
                    Kaiten 22 February 2016 13: 37
                    28
                    Quote: Aitvaras
                    - Smolensk is a Lithuanian land,

                    Smolensk, once belonged to the Lithuanian-Russian state. It was a Russian state uniting part of modern Ukraine, Belarus and some Baltic lands. Modern Lithuania has such a relationship to that state as modern Romania to the Roman Empire. Modern Lithuania, in those days, was called Zhmude. For that matter, the successor of that medieval Lithuania is modern Belarus. Whose ancient capital Vilnius now belongs, thanks to Stalin, modern Lithuania. Before WWII, Vilnius was part of Poland.
                    1. RoTTor
                      RoTTor 22 February 2016 20: 04
                      +7
                      In the Middle Ages, the BELARUSIANS, the basis of the best army of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, were called "Litvin", the inhabitants of Zhmudi were still wild and semi-wild.
                    2. RoTTor
                      RoTTor 22 February 2016 20: 04
                      +2
                      In the Middle Ages, the BELARUSIANS, the basis of the best army of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, were called "Litvin", the inhabitants of Zhmudi were still wild and semi-wild.
                    3. Litsvin
                      Litsvin 23 February 2016 00: 10
                      12
                      Dear Kaiten and RoTTor. I give you a low bow for EXCELLENT KNOWLEDGE OF THE HISTORY OF OUR ANCIENT POWER, THE LITHUANIAN / BELARUSIAN POWER - THE GREAT PRINCIPLE OF LITHUANIAN, RUSSIAN AND ZHAMOITSKY.
                      The word "LITHUANIA" with a great degree of probability has the LATIN ROOT "LIT" and comes from the name of the detachments of professional warriors from among the Polabian Slavs, who were in vasal dependence on the German feudal lords. After the beginning of a tough policy of Germanization in the 7-8 centuries, when the Slavs were forced to move to the east from the territory of approximately the former GDR, these units, which called themselves "warriors-lithuania", came to the land of modern Belarus. Later they became the military backbone of the city-states of the ancient Slavs. And the Zhamoyty has nothing to do with it - at that time they did not even know how to build houses, not to mention fortified castles and fortified settlements, the Zhamoyts plowed with a plow plow, and the Slavs who came - with an iron plow, the Slavs were excellent warriors who adopted the military of the arts from the Germans, and the zhamoits fought with wooden clubs and arrows with bone tips during the times of the Livonso Order. Writing among the Zhamoyts appeared in the middle of the 18th century, while the OLD BELARUSIAN LANGUAGE, BASED ON THE SYMBIOSIS OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE BALT-YATVYAGS AND THE POLABO-POMORIAN SLAVS WHO COME FROM HERE, HAS BEEN USED for writing since the 10th century. What is there to talk about. Zhmudz / modern Lithuania has the same relation to Ancient Lithuania / ON as the Papuans from Papua New Guinea to African blacks. There is only one thing in common between these two cults - they both belong to the species Homo sapiens, this is where the common ends. Also, let the zhamoyts / letuvis not steal our history from us LITVINS / BELARUSIANS - let the zhamoyts sit quietly "like mice that have got used to the master's grain."
                  5. Private27
                    Private27 22 February 2016 13: 45
                    +1
                    where does Germany and your spratland?
                  6. Alf
                    Alf 22 February 2016 16: 43
                    +6
                    Quote: Aitvaras
                    we also have all the legal justifications for the inheritance.

                    Well, come and get it. What is the problem?
                  7. sibiryouk
                    sibiryouk 22 February 2016 18: 17
                    +3
                    Vilnius recognized the capital, the RSFSR in 1920, and returned it to the USSR in 1939. But the Poles did not intend to give something back in 19 years!
                  8. Litsvin
                    Litsvin 22 February 2016 23: 49
                    +9
                    What nonsense are you writing, dear jamoit by nationality. Smolensk is the city of LITVINS i.e. according to modern BELARUS. ON is not MODERN LITHUANIA. Modern Lithuania is Zhmud, a small part of the GDL, which is worthless from an economic point of view, which finally became part of it in 1413.
                    ON is the state of LITVINS, according to the modern Belarusians, where the SLAVIC ETHNOS OF KRIVICHES was not just numerically dominant, but STATE-FORMING. YOU, zhamoyty, have nothing to do with ON. The language there was Old Belarusian, the culture was Slavic, the army was formed from the nobility from the territory of modern Belarus and the northern and western parts of modern Ukraine. The ON began its construction from the Novogrudok principality (now the city of Novogrudok, Grodno region), then, under the threat of the Mongols, Galicia-Volynskoe, Turovo-Pinsk, Polotsk (Smolensk was part of this principality from the moment of its foundation), Slutsk and a number of other principalities. All the cities on the territory of modern "Lithuania" were built by the Krivich Slavs, because you Zhamoyts simply did not know how to build fortified settlements and cities, but lived in semi-earthen huts. You didn't know how to process iron - the Slavs did it - the same city of Kouna (now Kaunas) was one of the cents of blacksmithing along with Polotsk and Novogrudok. All the princes of the ON - starting from Mendog and ending with Vitovt the Great, ethnically had ANY RELATIONSHIP TO ZHAMOITS. Old Belarussian gentry - Radziwills, Sapieha, Tyshkevichi, Vishnevetsky, etc. - these are ethnic LITHUANIA, i.e. according to modern Belarus. What does it say if you, Zhamoyts, have written WRITING only IN THE SECOND HALF of the 18th (!!!!) century. And you still claim to be the founders of the ON ??????????????????????? Your Zhamoyt idiots-pseudo-historians, taking advantage of the fact that Catherine II, after the division of the Commonwealth, renamed LITVINS into BELARUSIANS to give her TITLE the role of UNITED EASTERN SLAVS - THE EMPRESS OF ALL THE GREAT, WHITE AND ONE we LITVINOV / BELARUSOV our history and appropriated it to themselves, becoming to call themselves instead of "zhamoyts" - "Lithuanians". They began to rewrite history with the invented Lithuanian princes of the 2-11th centuries, FROM WHICH NO NAME IS PRESENT. Despite the fact that THE SAME POLOTSK PRINCES are well known since the 12th century.
                    In 1993, your impudent politicians became so impudent that they asked Shushkevich to give you yours. We rushed to look for "yours" in our archives - but there is none - in all the archives of Belarus there was not a single book of the ON period written in the Zhamoyst language !!!!! All ancient books, incl. STATUES ON are written in OLD BELARUS LANGUAGE !!!!!!!! Now, Zhamoyty, give us ours - what lies in the archives of Vilno and Koun, written in the Old Belarusian language, i.e. one of the copies of the Statute of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the same old Bibles, Chronicles, part of the Radziwill library, etc. Our glorious coat of arms "PAGON" was also distorted - the "tail" of the horse was lifted. This is OUR COAT OF ARMS and it got its name from the Slavic word "gon" - when the enemy came to our land, our banners rushed into the FLARE and in most cases overtook the enemy, freed the prisoners and returned the loot. Hence the name COAT OF ARMS. Your Zhamoyt name "VITIS" is also borrowed from the Belarusian language - this is the word "VITSIAZ" - that is, a warrior. Therefore, I can only say one thing - you are simply historical thieves, nothing more. And we will return our Belarusians to Vilna - sooner or later. Let's correct the mistake made by Stalin on October 10, 1939. The Kremlin made this historical mistake, and the Kremlin will help us correct it. And the "Kremlin" will make a big deal for itself - it will "return to the fold" Courland, Estonia, Livonia and the entire eastern coast of the Baltic Sea.
                  9. n.kolesnichenko
                    n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 18
                    +1
                    And how many such agreements were there and how many times have you violated them? !!
              2. Seal
                Seal 22 February 2016 12: 40
                +3
                why do they need Lithuanian lands

                But what, is it that the Baltic lands are originally Lithuanian?
              3. andrewkor
                andrewkor 22 February 2016 17: 55
                -8
                I want to support you against all members of the forum and I will say in great secret: VVZh voices what the GDP is thinking !!!
                1. n.kolesnichenko
                  n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 22
                  +1
                  What are you? You work only in the FSO, and even in the Presidential Administration !!!
                2. aba
                  aba 24 February 2016 02: 05
                  +1
                  : VVZh voices what the GDP is thinking !!!

                  Well, you didn’t hesitate to say that Putin has more trusted people than Zhirinovsky
              4. sibiryouk
                sibiryouk 22 February 2016 18: 12
                +1
                The word Zhirik is worthless. He's just a Duma Pissdopol.
                1. the villain
                  the villain 22 February 2016 20: 55
                  +4
                  Quote: sibiryouk
                  The word Zhirik is worthless.

                  Let me disagree with you, many consider Zhirinovsky to be a jester, but think about what: who of the courtiers could not afford the risk of telling the truth? Time will tell, IMHO, of course hi
              5. Dry_T-50
                Dry_T-50 22 February 2016 22: 34
                +2
                Quote: Aitvaras
                The Vice Speaker of the State Duma, Zhirinovsky, constantly states that Russia will soon return its original Baltic lands, and his ideas in Russia enjoy great support, including in HE. Specifically, Viktor.N. Aleksandrov 17. February 2016 18.27 a why they need Lithuanian lands, you can personally ask them

                Vice Speaker is a person of not even the first order.
                And yes, why do we need you? I just ask you to discard the tales that "X fed the whole USSR", I have heard enough of this nonsense in Ukraine
              6. n.kolesnichenko
                n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 15
                0
                You morons will be more - one of your Dalia that blathers ?!
          5. Kunar
            Kunar 22 February 2016 10: 32
            25
            But you are not worried by the fact that the largest training center of the USSR Airborne Forces was deployed in Lithuania laughing About a million cadets were trained there. They know your jemaitia like the back of their hand)))))) So German boxers will not help your hunters much soldier The best thing you can do is change your warlike rhetoric (shut up and not yap) until you pay attention. And try to live in peace .... By the way, the USSR did not have the task of depriving Finns of independence bully All with the upcoming holiday! We will live, Slavs .....
            1. Aitvaras
              Aitvaras 22 February 2016 11: 01
              -24 qualifying.
              That's right, and we know that the Lithuanian army will not last long, so we are part of NATO. Now in Lithuania there are warehouses with heavy weapons of NATO, headquarters - for the accelerated deployment of troops of NATO allies. We constantly demand a speedy arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade.
              1. kotvov
                kotvov 22 February 2016 11: 28
                +9
                We constantly demand an early arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade. ,,
                but most of all, I think you are inspired by the emblem of the created brigade, FULL ,, -.
              2. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 11: 34
                25
                Quote: Aitvaras
                We constantly demand a speedy arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade.

                the word "demand" is superfluous here, to put it mildly. However, these are your problems. Putin suddenly turned on the light in the kitchen, the Baltic cockroaches ran in horror, shouting "He has slippers in his hand !!!!"
              3. ilyaros
                ilyaros 22 February 2016 11: 57
                14
                That is, are you consciously ready in the event of a conflict to substitute your land for rocket attacks and disappear, turning into dust? Maybe this is connected with the mass emigration from the Baltic to Europe? People just do not want to die because of the adventures of your leaders, who, by the way, are completely subordinate to the US State Department?
              4. APASUS
                APASUS 22 February 2016 12: 36
                12
                Quote: Aitvaras
                That's right, and we know that the Lithuanian army will not last long, so we are part of NATO. Now in Lithuania there are warehouses with heavy weapons of NATO, headquarters - for the accelerated deployment of troops of NATO allies. We constantly demand a speedy arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade.

                How do Finns live? How has Russia still not won their poor fellow?
                Maybe you have some kind of land with hallucinogens or you have a navel of land there that Russia needs to conquer you urgently.
                You know what is the secret of Monaco or Singapore - they do not entertain themselves with crazy ideas !!!
                1. andrewkor
                  andrewkor 22 February 2016 18: 03
                  +1
                  I don’t know about Singapore, but Monaco, San Marino, Andorra gave away part of their sovereignty to France, Italy, Spain, respectively, together with France !!!
                2. KaPToC
                  KaPToC 22 February 2016 22: 37
                  +1
                  Monaco and Singapore have different secrets stop
                3. Shishiga
                  Shishiga 23 February 2016 21: 49
                  0
                  Maybe you have some kind of land with hallucinogens
                  - I also have a vague doubt, here we have Santa Claus, as it should be, riding a troika with bells in a sleigh on the ground, and they are flying in a reindeer harness and flying through the sky - is that something that needs to be smoked so that it feels like ???
                  Rather, fly agaric tincture is to blame or some other mushrooms. bully
              5. Seal
                Seal 22 February 2016 12: 47
                +9
                . Now in Lithuania there are warehouses with heavy weapons of NATO, headquarters - for the accelerated deployment of troops of NATO allies. We constantly demand a speedy arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade.
                Well, firstly, NATO does not have an impersonal military unit called the NATO Armored Brigade. You can only be sent a Polish armored brigade. Yes, this will be counted through NATO. But how will the Poles themselves count?

                And secondly, you better ask that you have more warehouses relocated to you. We know your places well, especially the neighborhood of Gaijunaya laughing
              6. 1rl141
                1rl141 22 February 2016 13: 00
                21
                [quote = Aitvaras] Now in Lithuania there are warehouses with heavy weapons of NATO, the headquarters - for the accelerated deployment of troops [/ quote
                Specify the coordinates. In order not to miss in case of something. These warehouses are disposable. And the headquarters too.
                I had a fighter named Kitayev, foaming at the mouth, arguing that the Russians had taken everything from Lithuania. Because there was the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, "from sea to sea." And the Russians took everything away. And it was useless for this "great ram" to prove that present-day Lithuania has nothing to do with that very Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
                You have never had and never have anything of your own. And it won’t. And don’t lick at Smolensk, roll your lips. Once Smolensk voluntarily entered the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but never belonged to the dumb Lithuania. These zhmuds always belonged to someone. And the zhmuds had only the right to work for the owner.
                The Russians have given you freedom. So say thanks and don't bark like mongrels. No one is afraid of you.
              7. Proxima
                Proxima 22 February 2016 13: 11
                13
                Quote: Aitvaras
                That's right, and we know that the Lithuanian army will not last long, so we are part of NATO.

                I will reveal to you a "terrible secret", Lithuania turned out to be a part of the USSR, not because the Russians occupied it, but because it LEGALLY, observing all the norms of international law, became part of the Union under the YALTA AGREEMENTS, and Churchill and Roosevelt, to the descendants which YOU polish your ass so diligently, willingly signed it all. So, do not harbor illusions, at the first nimble your "western partners" will get rid of you, like a gambler from an UNNECESSARY trash.
              8. Sergei 34
                Sergei 34 22 February 2016 14: 30
                +4
                Lithuanian army will not last long. She will not hold out at all. By the way, I advise you to read the fifth paragraph of the NATO charter. If we, with some fright, decide to seize your worthless territory, then, according to the NATO charter, they will send a carriage of stewed meat and diapers.
              9. uragan114
                uragan114 22 February 2016 16: 04
                +3
                Quote: Aitvaras
                That's right, and we know that the Lithuanian army will not last long, so we are part of NATO. Now in Lithuania there are warehouses with heavy weapons of NATO, headquarters - for the accelerated deployment of troops of NATO allies. We constantly demand a speedy arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade.


                Are you happy that you drew a target on your forehead ?? Well, on hell do you need this here ??
              10. ankir13
                ankir13 22 February 2016 16: 30
                +9
                But who do you need everything, gspda from the Baltic states and together with sney. You invent a lot of honor for yourself. They will capture, attack ... Most likely they simply will not pay attention.!
                1. aba
                  aba 24 February 2016 02: 12
                  0
                  Most likely they simply will not pay attention.!

                  Most likely they will not notice how they will be on the Baltic coast. wink
              11. Alf
                Alf 22 February 2016 16: 46
                +6
                Quote: Aitvaras
                , so we are part of NATO

                NATO said that in the event of a war between Russia and Turkey, NATO will not fight for Turkey. Why do you think that NATO will harness for you?
              12. andrewkor
                andrewkor 22 February 2016 17: 59
                -2
                A - You are blind, B-You are a cancer, B-You are a provocateur. Choose to your taste !!
              13. novel66
                novel66 22 February 2016 18: 49
                +3
                Well, the US 6th fleet to the heap !!
              14. am808s
                am808s 22 February 2016 18: 58
                +2
                While the Russian Armed Forces are able to pay close attention to the Baltic states, the NATO generals will devour you in every sense. Therefore, you already have nothing to fear as a people.
              15. james
                james 22 February 2016 20: 28
                +3
                Is this a joke of the day?
              16. Omelchuk
                Omelchuk 22 February 2016 20: 31
                -6
                Quote: Aitvaras
                That's right, and we know that the Lithuanian army will not last long, so we are part of NATO. Now in Lithuania there are warehouses with heavy weapons of NATO, headquarters - for the accelerated deployment of troops of NATO allies. We constantly demand a speedy arrival in Lithuania of the NATO armored brigade.

                and we wish you to continue this new series
              17. the villain
                the villain 22 February 2016 20: 59
                +2
                Quote: Aitvaras
                therefore we are part of NATO

                As a condom yes, which NATO itself uses at its discretion, and then throws it out as unnecessary hi
              18. the villain
                the villain 22 February 2016 21: 22
                +4
                Quote: Aitvaras
                , so we are part of NATO

                You yourself are not funny ??? First of all, how to yell to the whole world that a bloodthirsty Russia is going to attack you, answer your own question: What the hell are you all for us ???
                PS And NATO, of course, in which case it will fight with Russia to the death, to the last trilobite tribalt wassat
              19. n.kolesnichenko
                n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 24
                0
                Well, then what shall we do with this scrap metal? You ask us, we will arrive within XNUMX hours!
              20. samoletil18
                samoletil18 23 February 2016 21: 18
                +1
                Europe with NATO bloc
                AGAINST RUSSIA is ready to fight only until the last Lithuanian soldier.
              21. Shishiga
                Shishiga 23 February 2016 21: 45
                0
                Look at the idiot as ISIS depots in Syria are opened with missiles and bombs. laughing
              22. aba
                aba 24 February 2016 02: 07
                0
                We constantly demand

                Now it’s clear what the Balts themselves are capable of! laughing
          6. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 11: 23
            +9
            Quote: Aitvaras
            Finland in 1939, too, had a small army, but was able to defend its independence in the northern war with the USSR in 1940 ... In general, Lithuania is resolutely preparing for Russia to unsettled "our Crimea".

            the parallel with the Finns is rather stupid and does not stand up to criticism.
            Quote: Aitvaras
            Arrows - mostly hunters

            fabulously. This, of course, dramatically shifts the balance of power.
          7. moskowit
            moskowit 22 February 2016 11: 43
            10
            Don't you have too high self-esteem, my dear? You are perverting historical reality. During the war between the USSR and Finland, the latter defended its independence and "democracy". Limitrophes, as an object of occupation, are of no value to Russia. And if you want to absorb them economically, it is very easy ... There would be a desire. And then Peter the Great bought all your manors and farms from the Swedes in 1721. Read carefully the terms of the Nystad peace. Paid, at the same time, two million "efimks" (silver thalers)
          8. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 22 February 2016 12: 39
            21
            Dear, your patriotism deserves respect, with the exception of a few "but .."
            The most important and important thing is why it is so easily taken on faith, and as an incentive to action, Russia's clearly sponsored desire to seize the Baltic countries from overseas, think logically and take off the "pants of the Cold War." Although your rabid Komsomol member will not stop, she simply will not be allowed, and you have no problems with independence, as well as independence. Live as you like, no need to "bark" at your neighbors.
            Comparing with finns is simply not appropriate. These were very motivated and run-in units, do not believe it - a monument to them is in Latvia, at the entrance from Jurmala. Do you have your own Baron Manerheim? He studied and taught at the Academy of the Russian General Staff, and not at the higher party school in Washington. Do not compare, do not humiliate yourself.
            I will not say anything about the capabilities of the Armed Forces of your country, partisanism is the maximum, it is painful, but it can be treated. It is better not to start talking about the level of combat training of the personnel of the Armed Forces of the Baltic countries, a new uniform and American weapons are not an indicator. The most valuable thing in the Baltic States is the "early warning" system about the air situation - called BaltNet, for the sake of which they were drawn into NATO. It also puts the countries under the first blow for the destruction of places of accommodation. It's a classic.
            Wither vodka, relax and live in peace. A good example - your business is successfully nimble in Russia.
          9. VeryBravePiggy
            VeryBravePiggy 22 February 2016 13: 06
            +4
            Finland was bent over and the desired territory was taken away, but at a slightly higher price than originally expected. They retained "independence" only thanks to the good will of the USSR and the sanity of their government.
          10. Kaiten
            Kaiten 22 February 2016 13: 10
            +3
            Quote: Aitvaras
            in Lithuania, they are rapidly purchasing modern weapons, German BMP Boxer, anti-tank vehicles, anti-aircraft missiles, etc. The Lithuanian Union of Shooters received NATO assault rifles. The shooters are mostly hunters. They have their own rifles with optics and night sights. In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing so that Russia we have unsettled "our Crimea".


            Lithuania will not be able to restrain the offensive if it occurs. All lightly armored vehicles and artillery will become easy prey for aviation in the first hours. It is necessary to build roads for the rapid evacuation of the population, a large number of manual anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, the creation of small strongholds and partisan supply bases. The Baltic countries will not survive the classical war. By the way, the same applies to Belarus. In the event of a war, its army will not be able to restrain its offensive from the West, its concept should provide for a withdrawal to Russia and connection with Armenia, taking into account the creation of strong rear guard on the road.
            1. Kazbek
              Kazbek 22 February 2016 16: 55
              -19 qualifying.
              Quote: olegactor
              Finns defended themselves ...
              Come on in fact. It was not in the history of the Finnish Socialist Republic, but there was and is independent Finland.
              Unlike the Baltic republics of the Soviet Union.
              Quote: Banshee
              On the other hand, and we need it?
              Hmm, Stalin needed it. Vaughn and Putin have repeatedly stated that they have no claim to the Ukrainian Crimea. Again, "foshists" will start in the Baltics. And you have to "protect" compatriots.
              Although the best vaccination against "Russian World" is what is happening in the Donbass. lol
              Quote: Kaiten
              By the way, the same applies to Belarus. In the event of war, her army will not be able to restrain an attack from the West, her concept should provide for a withdrawal to Russia

              Actually, a new military doctrine has been adopted in Belarus. The main thing in it is opposition to "Voentorg" and "polite green men" .. repeat soldier
              1. n.kolesnichenko
                n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 33
                +1
                Bezrodny, are you sitting in the General Staff of Belarus?
                1. aba
                  aba 24 February 2016 02: 17
                  0
                  Bezrodny, are you sitting in the General Staff of Belarus?

                  Yes, no-eee ... This is just an officer ... From the General Staff of Belarus.
          11. Lelek
            Lelek 22 February 2016 13: 39
            +7
            Quote: Aitvaras
            The Lithuanian Rifle Union received NATO assault rifles. The riflemen are mostly hunters. They have their own rifles with optics and night sights. In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing for Russia to disrupt "our Crimea".


            Well that's it, the whistle is very close. A Lithuanian with a screw cutter that a monkey with a grenade is also decisive.
            As for the Lithuanian "Crimea is ours", then fuck ... you surrendered to someone. In the USSR, they sat on an all-Union subsidy, and now on handouts from the EU. The only thing they have achieved is that the former hotel "prihehe" is being promoted in the Eurochinush company. bully
            1. Chisayna
              Chisayna 22 February 2016 14: 50
              +3
              Yes, what kind of hunters are they. Some of them have at least once heard the roar of an awakened bear.
              1. the villain
                the villain 22 February 2016 21: 42
                +4
                Quote: Chisain
                One of them, at least once heard the roar of an awakened bear.

                They will have it this way ...
          12. Private27
            Private27 22 February 2016 13: 40
            +3
            Who needs you sheep ** Dolly ** bully
          13. Sergei 34
            Sergei 34 22 February 2016 14: 17
            +4
            Who needs you? And you need it, no assault rifles will help you.
          14. Kazbek
            Kazbek 22 February 2016 14: 54
            -12 qualifying.
            Quote: Aitvaras
            Finland in 1939, also had a small army but was able to defend its independence in the northern military with the USSR 1940.
            We in Kazakhstan are also closely comprehending the experience of the "Winter War" and it is a kind of example to follow.
            An example of the opposite is the events surrounding the Czechoslovak surrender of Sudeten Hitler.
            It is not difficult to assume that if the Finns agreed to Stalin's initial "modest" demands, then all of Finland would soon be occupied.
            The "Chukhonts" with weapons in their hands, at the cost of heavy losses, have earned their sovereignty.
            Again, the same Balts, who, unlike the Finns, agreed to the Kremlin's demands soon "voluntarily entered the family of peoples of the USSR."
            1. n.kolesnichenko
              n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 35
              +1
              Change the flag - "Kazakh" !!!
          15. olegactor
            olegactor 22 February 2016 15: 36
            +6
            the Finns defended themselves ... funny ... you don’t go through the history of school at school .. they lost all of Karelia ... and during the Second World War one bombing was enough for the Finns of the paws to raise ... the same to me warriors ... so training you can only scare ukro-banderlogov ... they are the same warriors .. against the unarmed only
            1. UNFAMILIAR
              UNFAMILIAR 22 February 2016 18: 09
              +4
              Quote: olegactor
              one bombing was enough to raise the paws fin ... the same to me warriors ...

              Do not insult the memory of those who died on the Karelian Isthmus and Karelia, they bombed them often, during the whole war, sometimes successfully, they didn’t like our artillery anymore. Just the government and military command in any country in order to think and calculate at least one step ahead, but armed forces to comply with their directives. After Stalingrad, Mannerheim understood everything and, if possible, one there was enough bombardment to raise the paws fin ...I would have done so, in a conversation with Hitler in 1943 he depicted it like this (not a marshal, but a frightened junker), you can familiarize yourself with the transcript, but then the fate of Hungary or Italy would befall Finland. And during the offensive of the 44th, especially in Karelsky isthmus, underestimation of the Finnish army, especially its integration with the Wehrmacht, without the Germans they would not have stopped the attack, plus relief, plus luck (Russian slovenliness). After a very successful air raid on military airfields, the Finns and Germans continued air raids on our vanguards after 45 minutes (did you mean this bombing?)
          16. nikpwolf
            nikpwolf 22 February 2016 16: 57
            +7
            Quote: Aitvaras
            Finland in 1939, also had a small army, but was able to defend its independence in the northern war from the USSR in 1940, Now, in Lithuania, they are rapidly purchasing modern weapons, German BMP Boxer, anti-tank vehicles, anti-aircraft missiles, etc. The Union of Lithuanian Shooters, received assault rifles NATO. The shooters are mostly hunters. They have their own rifles with optics and night sights. In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing so that Russia would not arrange "our Crimea".

            Gentlemen "great wars"! What's on "Our Crimea"? Well, where did you get the idea that we need you? If only in the form of a polygon. And even then it is unlikely. Take a closer look at your history. You should rather be afraid of Germans or "great" Poles. They pulled it up with their howl. Be quiet for a year, and we will generally forget about you. As if you are not. Absolutely.
          17. UNFAMILIAR
            UNFAMILIAR 22 February 2016 17: 28
            +4
            Quote: Aitvaras
            Finland in 1939 also had a small army

            Finland comparablely had an army and a militia slightly larger than the modern army of the DPRK + defenses, Finland could not afford something else for good.
            Quote: Aitvaras
            The Lithuanian Riflemen's Union, received NATO assault rifles. The riflemen are mostly hunters. They have their own rifles with optics and night sights. In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing so that Russia would not arrange "our Crimea

            How much will the whole Lithuanian rifle union hold out against a modern motorized rifle brigade in the forest? in the village against the artillery regiment? Among the fields or on the coast against the tank brigade?
          18. sibiryouk
            sibiryouk 22 February 2016 18: 02
            +3
            The value of Lithuania compared to the Crimea for Russia is zero (nafig is not needed!)
          19. Litsvin
            Litsvin 22 February 2016 21: 30
            +1
            Yakaya, yakaya such "LITHUANIA" ??? Dawatse, shanouny zhamoyt adsyul padrabyazney, yak "Lithuania" you are a cannon on uvaz ??? You, dear, mean a country that historically should be called "Zhmudya". At the time of OUR (!!!) ancient power - the power of the LITVINS / BELARUSIANS - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Russia and Zhamoytsky, your land was called Zhmudya. We, the Lithuanians-Belarusians, saved your Zhmud from complete enslavement and assimilation by the German knight brothers. Zhmud finally entered the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in 1413 after the defeat of the Teutonic Order in 1410, before that this land "dangled" between the Principality of Polotsk and the Livonian Order, and then between the Principality of Novogrudok (HEART of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) and the Teutonic Order. Zhmudi's economy has always been backward. For example, the main value of feudal production is grain. So, an insignificant export of grain from the territory of Zhmudi began only at the end (!!!) of the 16th century. There was no industrial production in Zhmudi at all - blacksmith products in Zhmud were supplied from the German Riga or the cities of the Lithuanian-Belarusians - Polotsk, Smolensk, Kouna, Navagarodka, Mensk, Vitsebsk, Lida, etc. When Zhmud was already part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, one can judge about the "mobilization "The potential of this land - for one Zhamoist nobleman called up to the army of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, there were 30 such noblemen-Litvinians from the historical territories of Ancient Lithuania / modern Belarus.
            Before World War I, more than half of the population of the Vilna region consisted of ethnic Belarusians, the remaining half were Poles, Jews, Russians, and only then - Zhamoits (less than 1%). Zhmudi was presented to Vilnius by Stalin after signing the secret Molotov-Ribbentrop protocol. Tore off from our historically lands - ON / Belarus and just gave it on October 10, 10. Why did you give it if "Lithuania" was still part of the Soviet occupation zone? Yes, simply in order to "demonstrate" the peaceful nature of the USSR. The Vilnius region was a political bait - at first it tore off the historical lands of the Belarusians from the BSSR and gave it to Zhmudi, and then, 1939 months later, occupied "Zhmudz-Lithuania" itself.
            The iron that your friends from the United States give you for the so-called "first weapon" is rubbish that has exhausted its resource or is obsolete. At the same time, the price is also bent for trash. And you will pay for the trash with real bucks. You even the Poles in three ways manage to shake off their trash, which they previously received in the same way from "friends" from NATO. Therefore, your Zhamoyt army and "local mobresursy" in the form of "hunters with berdanks and optics" are not even amusing troops, but simply a "paper" army - as a kind of attribute relying on every state.
            And about "Your Crimea, so that Russia does not suit .... Lithuania is getting ready ... ". Get ready, get ready. The United States is far away, the Poles are not warriors (vividly demonstrated from September 1 to September 12, 1939), the Germans will definitely not enter the war for you - "the lesson of 1945 went to the proc" for the rest of your life ", different Italians, French Zhmujs for sure not needed, your neighbors - Estonia and Livonia themselves will tremble under the bush like hares.
            And you, "zhamoyty", remained one on one - with the Mighty Russian Bear. You are not even Finland in 1940. We, the Lithuanian Belarusians, do not need any "corridor to the sea" at all - we need HISTORICAL SALVATION - only the Vilna region should be returned to its historical homeland - Vilnia (from the Slavic "free"), Koun (hell of Slavic "forge" - the city of blacksmiths), Troki and others are OURS.
          20. Litsvin
            Litsvin 22 February 2016 21: 43
            +4
            To be continued. And what can I say - a good half of the population of modern “LITHUANIA” is ethnic Belarusians with surnames deliberately distorted during the violent “Litvinization” in the 20s of the last century. When the native Belarus by the name of Burak, Litvinyuk, Adamovich, Matskevich, Yurok, etc. in the passports were recorded Burakevichus, Litvinauskas, Adamyavichus, Matskevichus, Jurkavicius, etc.
            It is always easier to steal something alien and pass off as your own than to create it yourself. Since the jamoites stole and appropriated the history of Litvinov-Belarus, and then “in the background” in 1991 they also grabbed a piece of our land. “Vilna, Kuna, Troki” - this is ours, LITVINOV / BELARUS. Keep this in mind, dear jamoit. And when the time comes, we will come for ours, for that that our ancestors built the Slavs-Krivichi and watered them thickly over the centuries, starting with Vseslav the Charodey "with their sweat and blood." We LITHUANIANS / BELARUSIANS are peaceful people, we do not need someone else's, but we will return our own. And no "Zhamoytskie arrows" (the term itself is funnier) WILL NOT HINDER THE TRIUMPH OF HISTORICAL JUSTICE !!! laughing laughing laughing

            PS By the way, I forgot to say that the name “Belarusians” was assigned to our people by Catherine II after the partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 2. This was a political decision, the key aspect of which is the root of the word "rus" for the imperial title of the Russian Empress. However, our people called themselves "Litvin" for more than 1775 years, some old people in the villages even now use this term. Therefore, in historical terms, the concept "BELARUS" = is equal to = the concept "LITVIN". Well, something like this - "a short historical sketch" for the zhamoyts.
          21. unsinkable
            unsinkable 22 February 2016 22: 25
            +3
            Quote: Aitvaras
            , in Lithuania are accelerating the purchase of modern weapons

            Dear, where do you get the old weapons: spears, bows, battle axes.
            Quote: Aitvaras
            optics and night sights.

            This is not useful to you. We will carve you in the afternoon.
            Quote: Aitvaras
            in the northern military from the USSR

            Russia lost the small wars without losing strategic superiority. But it was never enslaved. (Even during the Golden Horde). You do not see the enemy there, the warrior.
          22. KaPToC
            KaPToC 22 February 2016 22: 28
            +1
            The USSR that he wanted to take from Finland - took away, how did Finland protect something there?
          23. Glory to Berkut
            Glory to Berkut 22 February 2016 22: 33
            +3
            In Finland there were impassable forests, swamps, snowdrifts along the neck, Mannerheim line, troops trained to conduct combat in difficult conditions, stamina and courage.
            There is nothing to cling to in your fields. Yes, and nothing. In addition, the Baltic already went wrong. More and more hysterically tolerant. But here the biggest factor is that your territories on Nabolt Russia are not needed.
            ps But ... this does not mean that in due time you will not have to answer "non-citizens" ... So you'd better order more new sports sneakers from NATO;)
          24. n.kolesnichenko
            n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 05
            +1
            Well, if you got new rifles --- then that's it !!! You still need to buy new bikes !!! Calm down - no one needs you !!! And they would have wanted - three days and the banner of Victory would have fluttered over Vilnius and Kaunas !!!
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        4. Omelchuk
          Omelchuk 22 February 2016 12: 53
          -17 qualifying.
          Quote: Sensatus
          Small countries cannot have a strong army by definition. They always need to lean against a strong neighbor for protection. But US policy to impose dull-headed puppets everywhere led to a complete loss of ties with reality in many of our neighbors. Okay, time will put everything in its place.

        5. merkava-2bet
          merkava-2bet 22 February 2016 16: 14
          +1
          But perhaps Israel is an exception, or I am poorly versed in geopolitics and geography.
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        7. UNFAMILIAR
          UNFAMILIAR 22 February 2016 16: 57
          +1
          Quote: Sensatus
          Small countries cannot have a strong army by definition

          Singapore, Taiwan, Israel?
          1. ALEA IACTA EST
            ALEA IACTA EST 22 February 2016 17: 23
            +2
            Quote: UNKNOWN
            Singapore, Taiwan, Israel?

            San Marino laughing
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 22 February 2016 21: 26
            +2
            23 millionth Taiwan in terms of population and economic potential is rather a medium-sized state.
        8. SlavaP
          SlavaP 23 February 2016 00: 22
          +2
          Have you forgotten about Switzerland? If a small country does not mean that the army is worthless. A worthless army, on the contrary, means a worthless government.
        9. fzr1000
          fzr1000 23 February 2016 02: 19
          0
          Small country Switzerland. Although there are nuances.
        10. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 23 February 2016 07: 14
          0
          Quote: Sensatus
          Small countries cannot have a strong army by definition
          you tell the Israelis. also not a giant in territory and population.
      2. the most important
        the most important 22 February 2016 21: 18
        +1
        Quote: Siberia M 54
        Because squealing. From their weakness and worthlessness.

        It is not necessary to screech ... it is necessary to create an orchestra in every miracle army so that it would be more fun to surrender to a prisoner.
      3. Dam
        Dam 23 February 2016 14: 45
        0
        Little mongrel bark the loudest just from fear.
    2. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 22 February 2016 08: 05
      +6
      azbukin77 (2)
      A screech from the sprats is worth - Mama Do not Cry !!!

      I fully agree with you, by the way a little dog always barks the loudest!
    3. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 22 February 2016 09: 00
      17
      "Riga Commandos", "Tallinn Monsters", "Armored Cam"! - uhh! how does it sound laughing laughing laughing
      1. Glory to Berkut
        Glory to Berkut 23 February 2016 09: 52
        +3
        There was a special forces in Latvia. It was called the Riga OMON. But for some reason it seems to me that the Latvians will be a little frightened if this special unit comes back;) then it’s as if the entire Union of shooters, together with assault rifles and dogs, will explode in Finnish forests with a rag :)
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 22 February 2016 17: 31
      +1
      Very little information about Armenia. For example, Azerbaijan considers Nakhchivan its own, but on what basis? Although he borders with Turkey and Iran. And there, even to Ararat is a stone's throw away. I would like to hear about this expert opinion. hi
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 22 February 2016 21: 30
        +1
        The legacy of the USSR was part of the Azerbaijan SSR as the Nakhchivan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. On the other hand, the vast majority of the population there are Azerbaijanis, and the inhabitants of the region, unlike the population of Nagorno-Karabakh, are absolutely loyal to the Azerbaijani authorities. The autonomy of the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic is not based on ethnicity, but on the fact that Nakhchivan is separated from the rest of Azerbaijan, therefore it is more advisable to take decisions on a number of issues on the spot.
    6. max702
      max702 22 February 2016 19: 00
      +1
      "They are alive only by the grace of their neighbors .." (S.)
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2016 06: 16
    13
    unfinished, with under-armies ... and they yell out of fear, and they are afraid of everyone at once.
    1. Omelchuk
      Omelchuk 22 February 2016 13: 17
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      unfinished, with under-armies ... and they yell out of fear, and they are afraid of everyone at once.

  3. Seryj2
    Seryj2 22 February 2016 06: 17
    11
    Small, but very proud) And very, very independent. Like the Elusive Joe.
    1. bocsman
      bocsman 22 February 2016 07: 06
      12
      It is clear that by bribing or simply allowing local politicians to be stolen and compromising, they are forced to conduct a policy hostile to Russia. At the same time, they are not particularly concerned about their safety. Or maybe they know how many weapons they don’t deliver anyway, no one will fight! As they say, - Do not feed the horse. So why spend money?
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 22 February 2016 07: 57
      13
      Quote: Seryj2
      Small but very proud

      It doesn’t smell of pride here. These are phobias of petty insignificance.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 22 February 2016 13: 31
        +7
        Quote: EvgNik
        Quote: Seryj2
        Small but very proud

        It doesn’t smell of pride here. These are phobias of petty insignificance.

        The same case when they should never be touched. They fervently create their own collapse. And they scatter very quickly across Europe. Wait a little longer and only Russians will remain there.
        And our proud neighbors should think very much that in the event of a war against us, being on the side of our enemy, you can "self-cleanse" from these territories ... There are no Germans in East Prussia, no problems, no Japanese in the Kuril Islands, no problems ... So so we don't need problems in the Baltics either.
        By the way, the Finns have become smarter after those wars and now they prefer to be friends with us, for now, anyway.
        We are not vindictive, but the memory is good. And for all Russophobic squeals we will have to answer.
    3. moskowit
      moskowit 22 February 2016 11: 49
      +7
      In distant childhood, looking through and reading the 9th volume of the "yellow children's encyclopedia", "Countries and Peoples", I found an article about the dwarf states of Europe. Then the ten-year-old was amazed at the size of the San Marino army. I give an extract from an article published on VO July 31, 2010 ...

      "During the First World War, the Republic of San Marino became an ally of the Entente; 15 soldiers stood under arms. During the Second World War, the republic declared its neutrality, but this did not save it from the two-week German occupation. Today, 51 serve in the San Marino army. soldiers and 34 officers. Four times a year they arrange a military parade. Soldiers dressed in bright uniforms and armed with carbines of the XNUMXth century pass along the narrow streets of the capital - the city of San Marino.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 22 February 2016 12: 14
        +7
        Is it not there that the national orchestra exceeds the size of the Army by 4 people? I read it once - it struck my memory ... wink
  4. 65 Centurion
    65 Centurion 22 February 2016 06: 20
    18
    And already the author forgot to mention 5 well oooooooeeee mooooooosnoy truck Mesredes!
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 22 February 2016 06: 41
      27
      And oooooooooooooooooooooooo aviation!
      1. Dimon19661
        Dimon19661 22 February 2016 07: 36
        +9
        Well, the Balts have already adopted the 5th generation fighter, and look, the EPR is much smaller than the F-22 and T-50. Yes, and can take off vertically, and the ceiling is limited only by the height of the jump.
        1. Kunar
          Kunar 22 February 2016 10: 44
          13
          But they can move at subsonic speeds, at very low altitudes, enveloping the terrain, which makes it impossible to detect and destroy air defense systems. wassat laughing drinks There is a positive alternative in everything!
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 22 February 2016 07: 59
        +7
        Quote: Voha_krim
        oooooooeeeeen mooooooosnaya aviation!

        Parade of the younger group of kindergarten.
      3. nablydatel
        nablydatel 22 February 2016 08: 20
        +7
        Putin and Shoigu nervously smoking in a corner of Zadornov cannot rise crying
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 22 February 2016 13: 46
          0
          Quote: nablydatel
          Putin and Shoigu nervously smoking in a corner of Zadornov cannot rise


          I apologize for being off topic. I saw the name of the president and surfaced in my memory:
          (cry.)
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 22 February 2016 14: 41
            +6
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: nablydatel
            Putin and Shoigu nervously smoking in a corner of Zadornov cannot rise


            I apologize for being off topic. I saw the name of the president and surfaced in my memory:
            (cry.)

            What is this new problem? To me. with whom who sleeps, and even more so the ex-wives, it is his sins to answer him, and I don’t see a reason to suck at all.
      4. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 22 February 2016 09: 01
        +4
        Quote: Voha_krim
        And oooooooooooooooooooooooo aviation!


        I cried! laughing
      5. Aljavad
        Aljavad 22 February 2016 22: 01
        +3
        Voha_krim (2) RU Today, 06:41 ↑ New
        And oooooooooooooooooooooooo aviation!

        My humble way of thinking - those two with airplanes, they were punished for something ...

        Sadughs. Though they allowed to hide their faces ...
    2. 34 region
      34 region 22 February 2016 08: 01
      +5
      Centurion 65! 06.20. It looks like childish attempts on adult uncles. It is clear that these forces will not be enough for 24 hours of defense. Even with individual centers of resistance. But experience has shown that with a schucher, the government is the first to make legs abroad. Therefore, a supersonic catapult is more relevant to them. It is a pity there are no articles on VO regarding the assessment of modern life in the Baltic states. I wonder how the inhabitants themselves feel there (not Russian, but the indigenous people)?
      1. Cap.Morgan
        Cap.Morgan 22 February 2016 09: 29
        +3
        To be honest, there are no Russian speakers migrating to Russia from the Baltic. Many indigenous people left for the West. So they live well. No rockets are launched into space. So they do not need it. The measured burgher life.
        Can you imagine the Azerbaijani market occupying a district in the center of Tallinn and living according to its own laws? No. But in Moscow there. Rather, now he has moved to the outskirts. But nothing has changed there.
        We have many times more problems than them.
        Wooden fell three times in three years. For instance.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 22 February 2016 11: 33
          +6
          No. But in Moscow there is. ,,
          Do you propose to create markets only ragged?
          Wooden fell three times in three years. For instance.,,
          go to the high hryvnia.
          1. Generalissimo
            Generalissimo 22 February 2016 11: 38
            +5
            Why are Caucasians selling potatoes grown by Russians in the middle lane? And Russian labor is exploited by resellers who roll back to someone (or don't roll back)? Such markets should simply be banned and all trade should be conducted only by peasant sales unions. Let them sell their apricots through their similar organizations without problems ...
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 12: 15
              +1
              Quote: Generalissimo
              Why are Caucasians selling potatoes grown by Russians in the middle lane?

              well, let's still, b / in, talk about the demolition of stalls ... To the subject of the potato what side?
              1. Generalissimo
                Generalissimo 22 February 2016 13: 20
                0
                "do you propose to create markets that are only clean?
                The wooden one fell three times in three years. For instance.,,"
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                2. Omelchuk
                  Omelchuk 22 February 2016 13: 24
                  -7
                  Quote: Generalissimo
                  "do you propose to create markets that are only clean?
                  The wooden one fell three times in three years. For instance.,,"

            2. Lelek
              Lelek 22 February 2016 14: 06
              +2
              Quote: Generalissimo
              Such markets should simply be banned.


              Well, my friend, and they said. This is tantamount to being shot in your knee. Another thing is that a lot of illegal immigrants revolve around the markets, who need to be caught and sent (at their own expense) to their sunny homeland. According to Roskomstat, there are about 9 million such illegal immigrants in Russia. True, they can be understood, they feed their numerous families, but they take this opportunity away from our Russian people. And "catching" them is purely symbolic - he thrust a "pyatikhatka" into the cop and he turned away "having washed" his eyes. Observed such scenes more than once in our St. Petersburg.
              1. Generalissimo
                Generalissimo 22 February 2016 15: 34
                0
                Myself, who is this? :-)
            3. moskowit
              moskowit 22 February 2016 18: 02
              +2
              In Soviet times, Rospotrebkooperation existed for this ...
        2. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 41
          0
          Is the "steward" already worth it, or is there a problem with mathematics?
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 22 February 2016 21: 16
        +2
        24 HOURS???
        Yes, you’ll stupidly just look for them in the forests for a couple of months. And then wash them from the dristachka.
  5. Koshak
    Koshak 22 February 2016 06: 37
    +7
    Nice parade! Comments +++. True, they sang a somewhat mournful anthem, and you should not stand in the back when driving a car .. but who am I to point them to? And the cavalry would have looked generally gorgeous!
    1. cap
      cap 22 February 2016 07: 06
      +1
      Quote: Koshak
      Nice parade! Comments +++. True, they sang a somewhat mournful anthem, and you should not stand in the back when driving a car .. but who am I to point them to? And the cavalry would have looked generally gorgeous!


      Now I cut through !!!))))
      They are so worried that they will be captured. They simply have NO army!
      Especially if you remove the last lines in the boxes.
  6. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 22 February 2016 06: 49
    +8
    A toy state (in the sense of a toy in the clutches of NATO) does not have the right to have its own army. NATO needs a territory, they seized it, the goal is achieved. And these wise men paws folded and bastard, well, the NATO flag in their hands ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 22 February 2016 08: 05
      +4
      06.49. You could even say: the Baltic Gorbachevs themselves surrendered their countries! After all, the seizure of all the CMEA countries took place purely economically.
  7. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 22 February 2016 06: 53
    +4
    Amazing And why have the evil Russians still not captured them all?
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 22 February 2016 07: 38
      21
      Are you sure you need to feed them something later. And again to build factories with factories.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 22 February 2016 07: 44
      +5
      Quote: armored optimist
      Amazing And why have the evil Russians still not captured them all?

      So they dream about it. Pride does not allow us to ask again for an alliance with Russia, which does not matter, and today's life is a burden, and they are afraid that Russia will not let guest workers, where to get the money? So it’s just a noise for which they don’t pay much and do not let go of hunger.
  8. Good cat
    Good cat 22 February 2016 06: 56
    +4
    Some rabble!
  9. alex-cn
    alex-cn 22 February 2016 07: 03
    +5
    "then the US is transferring a brigade group from Germany to Eastern Europe .... this measure has no military significance and is not even political,"
    I think that it’s all the same political, because in the case of our absolutely unbelievable invasion, it will allow the striped to yell about a blow to their forces.
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    2. bocsman
      bocsman 22 February 2016 07: 12
      +4
      Quote: alex-cn
      "then the United States is transferring a brigade group from Germany to Eastern Europe .... this measure has no military significance and is not even political," I think that it is still political, because in the event of our absolutely incredible invasion, it will allow the striped ones to scream about blow to their powers.


      And it seems to me (hypothetically) that it will be like in the Crimea they will surround the "contingent" and provide them with transport. And the valiant NATO members will proudly leave for the house! We saw how their special forces behaved during the capture in Iran.
  10. Leprekon
    Leprekon 22 February 2016 07: 04
    12
    Fleas are not afraid of a bear, but they add trouble! This means is enough for them.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 22 February 2016 07: 18
    +5
    ... and then a few small but very proud birds said:
    - Personally, we will fly directly to the Sun!
    And they began to rise higher and higher, but very soon they burned their wings and fell to the very bottom of the deepest gorge ....
  12. Sura
    Sura 22 February 2016 07: 19
    +2
    Strashnaaaaaaa !!!!! belay laughing
  13. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 22 February 2016 07: 23
    +5
    How so? Such pathetic warriors! Such a beautiful euro camouflage on them! On the verge of glamor. Ukrovoins, for example, love to pose with harsh faces in him. Even the beards grow for forest wit. The worst emblems. Stylized swastikas, sabers, skulls, animal faces in a grin! And all in vain? EVERYTHING IS EMPTY, because military ballet is in the best traditions of Hollywood, as the owners taught them. Since ancient times, the Warriors of Russia have not gotten used to knocking their horns off with a pan-head. So much so that all the beast flies to hell whimpering and dropping the contents of the liver.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 08: 33
      +2
      Quote: chelovektapok
      How so? Such pathetic warriors! Such a beautiful euro camouflage on them! On the verge of glamor.

      see the commercials of the Baltic special forces)
      And here are the final shots of the film with the iconic title "Three Reasons Putin Will Never Touch Estonia". In my opinion, the same was shouted by the moron (now de-launching BP) in Belbek. Everything is very clear.
  14. Koshak
    Koshak 22 February 2016 07: 46
    +3
    The parades are like fairy tales with tiny kingdoms, something like armies.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 22 February 2016 08: 09
      +1
      Cat! 07.46. And according to the plot in fairy tales, the further, the worse. wassat
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 22 February 2016 22: 05
      0
      cat RU Today, 07:46 AM New
      The parades are like fairy tales with tiny kingdoms, something like armies.


      These kingdoms have a name - CHECKLIST.
  15. Balagan
    Balagan 22 February 2016 07: 48
    +2
    Armada, commando, monsters and cam - author burns laughing
    Good article.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 22 February 2016 09: 30
      +2
      Quote: booth
      Armada, commando, monsters and cam - author burns

      The author is well done, he called them correctly - "monsters, commandos", look at the names of their formations, they just make you feel horror with one name laughing - "Iron Wolf", "Dacia"
  16. parafoiler
    parafoiler 22 February 2016 07: 51
    +2
    Such shortcomings when participating in hostilities, as a rule, compensate for their inferiority with a brutal, inhuman treatment of wounded and captured soldiers of the opposing side and its local population ...
  17. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 22 February 2016 07: 51
    +2
    In any case, you need to shout at every corner that this is wildly annoying us and that these actions will critically change the balance of power in Europe. Even if it’s not so ...
  18. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 22 February 2016 08: 04
    +1
    Baltic, pancake, tigers wassat
  19. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 08: 19
    +4
    I do not quite understand the meaning of having an army in the Baltic states. Funny regiments
    “Iron Wolf” is, well, a military band.
  20. zinander
    zinander 22 February 2016 08: 28
    +4
    But Latvia then turns out to be the coolest of the three sisters. There are three tanks in total, and even some ... t-55s. We must be careful with them, otherwise they will anger at us and attack us.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 February 2016 21: 35
      0
      Apart from these three tanks, then, in fact, the Latvian army is the weakest in the Baltic states. It is weaker than the Lithuanian and Estonian armies.
  21. X Y Z
    X Y Z 22 February 2016 08: 32
    +5
    all this reminds me of screaming about the violence of a girl who secretly dreams of this violence. No, fire you all to capture! How to conduct experiments on our economy, so ourselves, and to capture and feed, so are we. No guys, you’ll get food and everything else from Brussels and don’t secretly dream of a kind and strong Russian host.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 February 2016 13: 03
      -3
      "and do not quietly dream of a kind and strong Russian master." ////

      Alas, your post is the dream of the old master (USSR) about serfs, who (as he believes) will voluntarily return to him, because he loved them and did not punish them with rods too often.

      No one will return stop . Freedom - it is in hunger - freedom.
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 13: 33
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        No one will return

        something of a comrade obviously didn’t get there) Many different snowstorms to drive about the Balts, but something, but it is difficult to suspect them of wanting to return to the scoop.
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 22 February 2016 13: 34
        +6
        I wouldn’t have thought. My father-in-law, a Moldavian, fought for Moldova in Transnistria against the Russians. I even received a reward. Now he lives in Russia constantly, obscures European integration and votes for the socialists, which they want in the CU and the European Economic Community. My daughter again gave out for Russian (that is, me). Anyway, those Moldovans with whom I spoke, and this is a village in the regions of Orhei and Soroka, want to be friends and integrate precisely with the Russian Federation. This is the east and north of Moldova. Chisinau loafers and creacles who dream of living on EU benefits is a separate issue, although there are many Russian supporters among them. PLUS THE GAGAUZA NOT TALKING ABOUT PMR. Who knows what will happen next. hi Well, the issues of sovereignty of the Baltic countries do not depend on them. If we and their mattress covers are exchanging them, or there will simply be a real danger on the part of these territories, then soon no one will remember that independent states once existed there. request
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 13: 47
          +2
          Quote: g1v2
          I wouldn’t have thought. My father-in-law, Moldavian ... they want to be friends and integrate precisely with the Russian Federation

          when I say "Balts" I mean the Balts. Moldovans, with all the desire to refer to them, is very difficult.
      3. Private27
        Private27 22 February 2016 14: 01
        +4
        And where did you get the idea that these three nedostrany need RUSSIA? belay
      4. the villain
        the villain 22 February 2016 21: 58
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Freedom - it is in hunger - freedom.

        That is freedom, and the position in which the tribaltics stands, I think, is somehow called differently hi
  22. Stinger
    Stinger 22 February 2016 08: 33
    +3
    And where are the mountain arrows, damn it.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 22 February 2016 12: 18
      +6
      Apparently where there are mountains - near Rostov. laughing
  23. cesar65
    cesar65 22 February 2016 08: 51
    +3
    Now it’s clear why they didn’t allow the ensemble named after Alexander to perform, they are afraid that their armies will immediately surrender.
  24. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 09: 00
    +3
    it is better not to mess with Moldovan special forces at all. Will dance.
  25. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 22 February 2016 09: 00
    15
    As practice shows, from all this rubbish, excellent occupation troops are obtained. Yes, they cannot fight, but they gladly commit atrocities - they burn villages with people, dozens of thousands kill peaceful people. If they are allowed in the second echelon, they will bring so much grief, it's scary to think. The new European "ss" will consist of all these limitrophes and galitsians almost entirely.
  26. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 22 February 2016 09: 07
    +4
    Throw joking. But what if the AN-2 is unreserved? What will we do then?
  27. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 22 February 2016 09: 19
    +4
    No wonder.
    The backbone of the army in the vast expanses of the USSR was Russian people and Russian weapons. After the collapse of the USSR, Russians from national republics were driven out or oppressed, and the remaining weapons fell into decay. These former republics think they are of some value to the West. Their only purpose is to be a battering ram against Russia, as Ukraine is now. With all the ensuing consequences for the population.
  28. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 22 February 2016 09: 22
    +7
    Thousands of Estonia and Latvia 100 each exhibited in World War II, and Lithuania 80 each. Under 300 thousand essessians. Almost like Paulus. Does everyone remember Paulus? This is the one that came to Stalingrad.
    So the enemy is evil, resentful of us and Europe, accusing us of all his troubles over the past 100 years.
    The Baltic SS legionaries showed themselves mainly in punitive expeditions against civilians, and they killed everyone, "so that there were as few Russians as possible."
    The destruction of the Vilnius ghetto is also them.
    Well, laugh, jokers ...
    1. Aitvaras
      Aitvaras 22 February 2016 09: 31
      -3
      During WWII, SS troops were not created in Lithuania since Lithuanians refused to serve there. A rare case in Europe then occupied by the Nazis. At that time, all countries had their national SS legions, except Lithuania and Greece.
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 10: 08
        +7
        Quote: Aitvaras
        During WWII, SS troops were not created in Lithuania since Lithuanians refused to serve there. A rare case in Europe then occupied by the Nazis. At that time, all countries had their national SS legions, except Lithuania and Greece.

        This does not speak at all about the total anti-Nazi sentiments of the Lithuanians. "Lack of discipline, inertia, cowardice and laziness." according to the expression of the Lithuanian Commissioner Renteln. Simply, as Sharikov said, “I will not go to fight anywhere.” For a year, the Lithuanians were dynamizing the Germans with sabotage and bureaucratic red tape. As a result, in the summer of the 44th, the Samogitian Schutzmanschaft was born, which in October of the same year ceased to exist in the very first battle.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 February 2016 10: 22
        +7
        Et yes ...
        Lithuanians preferred punitive battalions. They persecuted civilians and prisoners of war in Belarus, Poland and Ukraine. Participated in many atrocities of the Nazis in the rear, from the "Winter Magic" and ending with the deportation of Jews from the Warsaw ghetto. Even Majdanek was guarded ...

        Well, waffen-ss ... They could have forced to fight there, why did the Lithuanian patriots?
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 11: 08
          +8
          Quote: Spade
          Lithuanians preferred punitive battalions.

          everything is correct. And the building battles. And another 16.09.41 was formed front police company (200 people, growth not lower than 180).
          The 2nd police battalion already in October 41st cleared Belarus, and with its zeal in deevrization earned the praise of G. Karl, the Slutsk commissar.
          This stuff has never fought. Ah, well, near Papile in October 1944, they were raked from the Red Army. On this, presumably, military glory ended forever.
      3. Private27
        Private27 22 February 2016 14: 04
        +1
        Proof of?
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 17: 53
          +1
          Quote: Private27
          Proof of?

          evidence, sorry, why?
      4. Seal
        Seal 22 February 2016 15: 01
        +5
        At that time, all countries had their national SS legions, except Lithuania and Greece.
        And what, did the Poles or the Czechs (not counting one company of St. Wenceslas, created in April or May 1945, but never fighting) did their SS national legions have their own?
        Of the countries that were part of the Nazi coalition, there was no SS in Slovakia and a very dubious part (Bulgarian anti-tank brigade of SS troops), supposedly really belonging to the SS, it was believed that it was in Bulgaria.
      5. UNFAMILIAR
        UNFAMILIAR 22 February 2016 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: Aitvaras
        During WWII, SS troops were not created in Lithuania since Lithuanians refused to serve there. A rare case in Europe then occupied by the Nazis. At that time, all countries had their national SS legions, except Lithuania and Greece.

        Have you forgotten Poland? It's simple, for the Germans, you, as mixed with the Poles, were not quite racially full, but your policemen exterminated all the many Jews in Lithuania.
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  29. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 09: 32
    +5
    Quote: Iskander
    But Latvia then turns out to be the coolest of the three sisters. There are three tanks in total, and even some ... t-55.

    I remember that Estonians rented one T-55 from Latvians in order to test the effectiveness of anti-tank ditches after our Crimean blitzkrieg. Along the way, the guys also believe in barbed wire obstruction)
    Estooonia razveedeka not yet aware of our engineering troops.
    1. Vadimigsvg
      Vadimigsvg 22 February 2016 13: 00
      +7
      If only the gasket between the seat and the levers were replaced, the mechanical drive is then the brake is full.
  30. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 22 February 2016 09: 46
    +4
    Quote: Aitvaras
    During WWII, SS troops were not created in Lithuania since Lithuanians refused to serve there. A rare case in Europe then occupied by the Nazis. At that time, all countries had their national SS legions, except Lithuania and Greece.

    Well this is incorrect information. Lithuanians really did not have SS units. So what? They served a lot in police and security battalions.
    In the magazine "Soldier" I came across the figure of 80 thousand. In Lithuania. This is slightly less than in Estonia, but twice as many as there were Russian policemen throughout the occupied territory of the RSFSR.
    Just such a trick, so that they would not be sent far from home ...)))
    1. Aitvaras
      Aitvaras 22 February 2016 10: 44
      -14 qualifying.
      Lithuania, as the state was not in time, these were police battalions of the German occupation administration. In the national Waffen SS created since 1943, the Lithuanians were reluctant to serve, due to traditional anti-German sentiments. For which many Lithuanian military personnel, after clashes with the Germans in early 1944. were shot or exiled to conc. camps in Germany.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 February 2016 10: 59
        +7
        Quote: Aitvaras
        In the created with 1943 g. national Waffen -SS, the Lithuanians did not want to serve, because of the traditional anti-German sentiment.

        Or maybe the point is not in "anti-German sentiments", but in the fact that by 1943 the Germans were not doing very well at the front?
      2. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 10: 59
        +8
        Quote: Aitvaras
        For which many Lithuanian military personnel, after clashes with the Germans in early 1944. were shot or exiled to conc. camps in Germany.

        "many"? oh well - 83 shot, 110 in KZ (not to be confused with Kazakhstan laughing). And about the "clashes" of the Lithuanians with the Wehrmacht, is it possible in more detail?
      3. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 11: 39
        +1
        Quote: Aitvaras
        Lithuania as a state was not in time

        Well, yes, the Reichskommissariat Ostland was. And now the EU and toy statehood. Cheeks do not need to pout.
      4. sibiryouk
        sibiryouk 22 February 2016 18: 39
        +4
        And in 1941, many Lithuanian Jews were executed or exiled to the end. the same Lithuanians took camps and feasible participation in this meanness! (destroyed by Oct.1941-71 105 people)
      5. sibiryouk
        sibiryouk 22 February 2016 18: 50
        +1
        And in 1941, many Lithuanian Jews were executed or exiled to the end. the same Lithuanians took camps and feasible participation in this meanness! (destroyed by October 1941 - 71 105 people)
      6. n.kolesnichenko
        n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 48
        0
        And where did they "clash?
  31. Forest
    Forest 22 February 2016 10: 09
    -5
    Be that as it may, the anti-tank defense of the Baltic states is very powerful, and decent APCs are decent.
  32. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 22 February 2016 11: 05
    +4
    Quote: Aitvaras
    Finland in 1939, also had a small army, but was able to defend its independence in the northern war from the USSR in 1940, Now, in Lithuania, they are rapidly purchasing modern weapons, German BMP Boxer, anti-tank vehicles, anti-aircraft missiles, etc. The Union of Lithuanian Shooters, received assault rifles NATO. The shooters are mostly hunters. They have their own rifles with optics and night sights. In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing so that Russia would not arrange "our Crimea".

    Here you are, sprats fed !!!!)))
  33. engineer
    engineer 22 February 2016 11: 23
    +4
    why do we need Lithuania? nothing there. except sprat no. So in Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg they are produced with success. there aren’t even apples in Lithuania. they are in poland.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 11: 35
      -3
      Quote: engineer
      why do we need Lithuania? nothing there. except sprat no. So in Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg they are produced with success. there aren’t even apples in Lithuania. they are in poland.

      again sprat-apple bullshit. Not tired?
  34. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 February 2016 12: 03
    -1
    If Alexander Khramchikhin was instructed to describe
    Finnish army before the winter war, he of course
    would do it in the same humorous style:
    "northern armored cam", "Helsinki monsters" ...
    Laugh ...
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 12: 25
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      If Alexander Khramchikhin was instructed to describe
      Finnish army before the winter war, he of course
      would do it in the same humorous style:
      "northern armored cam", "Helsinki monsters" ...
      Laugh ...
      laughing
      "The Line MannergayMika "...
      Khramchikhin's clones and so were:
      “The armies of two worlds have collided. The Red Army is the most peaceful, the most heroic, powerful, equipped with advanced technology, and the army of the corrupt Finnish government, which the capitalists force to rattle with their weapons. And the weapon is, frankly speaking, old, worn-out. ", (" Leningradskaya Pravda ", December 2, 39)
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 23 February 2016 06: 20
      0
      From the point of view of materiel, the Finnish army in the fall of the 39th really did not represent something serious. Something from the old tsarist reserves, something remained from the Reichswehr, something of its own, something produced under license. Of the last two points, there is little in the "marketable quantities".
      So I wrote and would be right. hi
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 23 February 2016 11: 11
        0
        "From the point of view of materiel, the Finnish army in the fall of 39
        really wasn’t anything serious "////

        About that and the bazaar. Like the Baltic states now. But the Finns managed with
        with his frail equipment to inflict a huge Red Army completely
        fantastic losses. Two Soviet infantry divisions dissolved
        in the forests without a trace, not a single person returned. The Finnish captured tanks - dozens ....

        Therefore, the capricious conclusions of Khramchikhin are stupid. Like
        any heading conclusions. In life I have not read in Israeli
        the press is something humorous or humiliating about our military power
        opponents, whether reg. army or militants. Because they ran
        and run into unpleasant surprises from even the tiniest
        terrorist organizations. Enemies are constantly learning.
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 24 February 2016 17: 27
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          About that and the bazaar. Like the Baltic states now. But the Finns managed with
          with his frail equipment to inflict a huge Red Army completely
          fantastic losses. Two Soviet infantry divisions dissolved
          in the forests without a trace, not a single person returned. The Finnish captured tanks - dozens ....

          I ate not a single dog on Talvisot, so sew a beard to someone else, okay? wink

          Quote: voyaka uh
          Therefore, the capricious conclusions of Khramchikhin are stupid. Like any hat-making conclusions. In life I have not read in Israeli
          the press is something humorous or humiliating about our military power
          opponents, whether reg. army or militants. Because they ran
          and run into unpleasant surprises from even the tiniest
          terrorist organizations. Enemies are constantly learning.

          Here I agree. I don’t like those myself.
  35. alex52
    alex52 22 February 2016 13: 08
    +2
    disputes about the Viking invasion are interesting - but there was a second world war - the decision to divide Europe was made - who wants to refute Nuremberg - (Finns and others) should think hard - others can too ???
  36. Sausuolis
    Sausuolis 22 February 2016 14: 42
    -3
    Starting from the Javelin transfer, all Lithuania’s armaments are underestimated 1,5-4 times.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 22 February 2016 18: 24
      0
      Quote: Sausuolis
      Starting from the Javelin transfer, all Lithuania’s armaments are underestimated 1,5-4 times.

      I agree. However - and what, in fact, is of fundamental importance?
    2. n.kolesnichenko
      n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 16: 51
      0
      Inflate --- allow !!!
  37. engineer
    engineer 22 February 2016 15: 11
    +2
    how old is this javelin? an ordinary curtain successfully blocks it. but there is also a serious active defense.
    1. Forest
      Forest 22 February 2016 20: 47
      +1
      The curtain does not save from Javelin. It is induced through the thermal imaging channel.
  38. mayhem
    mayhem 22 February 2016 15: 13
    +2
    it is necessary to have a special talent in order to prosrait everything, we militiamen are better armed than all these strange combined !!!
  39. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 22 February 2016 15: 39
    +3
    Quote: Aitvaras
    In general, Lithuania is decisively preparing for Russia to unsettled "our Crimea"

    Kapets! Tonight I won’t fall asleep from fear! Lithuania has decided something! recourse
  40. xomaNN
    xomaNN 22 February 2016 15: 41
    +4
    Yeah, POWERFUL laughing And Baltic politicians are bullying Russia as big bully
  41. orca77
    orca77 22 February 2016 17: 11
    +1
    Quote: Aitvaras
    The Vice Speaker of the State Duma, Zhirinovsky, constantly states that Russia will soon return its original Baltic lands, and his ideas in Russia enjoy great support, including in HE. Specifically, Viktor.N. Aleksandrov 17. February 2016 18.27 a why they need Lithuanian lands, you can personally ask them

    Dear, do not turn your attention to Zhirinovsky. With his shouts, he accumulates the attention of the aggressively-minded part of the population and throws it "on the ground". He is a very intelligent person, very educated. Sometimes you can even see how he is burdened by his role, but his main task is just NOT TO ALLOW a mess. I think you should pray for him.
  42. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 22 February 2016 17: 37
    +1
    They are clowns, not warriors.
  43. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 22 February 2016 17: 43
    +3
    Quote: Sausuolis
    Starting from the Javelin transfer, all Lithuania’s armaments are underestimated 1,5-4 times.

    That is, you do not have two machine guns, but three. Excuse me, we will take into account when preparing the defense line ...
  44. saygon66
    saygon66 22 February 2016 20: 16
    +4
    - It seems that the population of the Baltic states is being intensively instilled with the complex "300 Spartans" ... giving the honorary right to die with honor in the forefront!
    “What kind of imagination and naivety is needed - to count on surviving a clash, and then flourishing, regardless of the outcome of the war ?!”
    - What will happen on the site of Tallinn, Riga and Vilnius (and Kaliningrad, what’s there ...) can be imagined without straining - videos from Syria or Donbass on Tube ... But there’s not even a full-scale war - a civil one ...
    - Even in the worst situation for us: the Americans, and others like them, can’t take Russia by military means, which means they will leave as they left the Middle East. What then will happen to those to whom they will give a knee in the ass, so as not to drag them to feed, to the States?
    - Above was a post about the Germans of East Prussia ... Last summer, there was work in the region ... near the border with Lithuania, we got there more than a hundred kilometers, and passing through the villages where much remains of that old, well-groomed, rich German province, I thought: "Where are all these people now who built beautiful, sturdy houses, plowed fields, planted pine forests for centuries, clearly hardworking, who loved their land ?!"
    - Just once they took the WRONG STEP ... One step! But this step took them away from home to nowhere ...
    - And yesterday's residents of Insterburg and Gumbinen, Tapiau and Allenburg were left lying somewhere near Stalingrad ... Now their homes and church were pulled by brick by Armenian settlers ... and the fields were overgrown with weeds! And the very memory of them, slowly but surely, disappears!
    - That was the price of ONE WRONG STEP!
    - Maybe, sometimes, when a people blinded by the consciousness of their own greatness, it is worth taking a look where to put their foot ....
  45. raketosss
    raketosss 22 February 2016 20: 38
    +2
    Russia will return ... I thought: according to modern law: the borders are unshakable; I thought that because of Khrushchev they had lost Crimea forever, now ours ... Now I dream to live to the borders of the USSR where I was born ... I think we will return ...
    1. castle
      castle 23 February 2016 01: 54
      -3
      Do you think to live to the borders of the USSR? And among different peoples, you asked for an opinion? Or what you like should others like? Or do you earn titles by living on Brighton Beach? Under the bridge?
  46. although
    although 22 February 2016 23: 34
    0
    Quote: Aitvaras
    Smolensk is a Lithuanian land

    To ignore provocateurs, and the whole business, the more the minus, the more the master's "plus"
  47. castle
    castle 23 February 2016 01: 37
    -5
    If you think that Lithuania will become a battlefield, then you are saying that the Russian army will invade Lithuania. Otherwise, there will be no battle. Why does Russia need Lithuania? To ensure, more or less, a safe exit of the Baltic Fleet to the vast. And so, all the bases of both the NATO fleet and the Russian one are at gunpoint. But NATO employees live, while the Russians are "handed the keys to their" apartments. "
    It is clear that the "cold war" may not end, but the fact that the Russian people are constantly held in the times of WWII and in Stalinism is already a job for a psychiatrist. Or new choices must be made. Although Kadyrov and the Cossacks are mummers, they will not allow you to make elections. You will vote for the "necessary" ones!
    Slava Metreveli and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (sorry, "SS" cannot be written, however, like "88")
    And hava nagila, patriots by law. Or "in law"?
  48. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 23 February 2016 12: 34
    0
    Quote: hrad
    If you think that Lithuania will become a battlefield, then you are saying that the Russian army will invade Lithuania. Otherwise, there will be no battle. Why does Russia need Lithuania? To ensure, more or less, a safe exit of the Baltic Fleet to the vast. And so, all the bases of both the NATO fleet and the Russian one are at gunpoint. But NATO employees live, while the Russians are "handed the keys to their" apartments. "
    It is clear that the "cold war" may not end, but the fact that the Russian people are constantly held in the times of WWII and in Stalinism is already a job for a psychiatrist. Or new choices must be made. Although Kadyrov and the Cossacks are mummers, they will not allow you to make elections. You will vote for the "necessary" ones!
    Slava Metreveli and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (sorry, "SS" cannot be written, however, like "88")
    And hava nagila, patriots by law. Or "in law"?

    Eh .... it was necessary to really push in 68 .... so as not to squeak now beer comrades ..
  49. k_ply
    k_ply 23 February 2016 15: 37
    +1
    A little about the Estonian army, in my opinion, the most serious of the three Baltic countries.
    The combat strength of the Estonian army in the event of the deployment of wartime to the states, a diagram from the English-speaking Wiki with NATO topographic symbols for designating the formations of military branches and services:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Estonia_Army_War_time_2015.p
    ng

    Of course, the author himself shouldn’t go into battle and do not plan a military operation, if that, but ...
    Of course, one should not be afraid of the invasion of Estonia itself, but if "the stars in the sky are shitty," it would be good to prevent the deployment of its army to the states of war. The population of Estonia is slightly smaller than today's Chechnya, the area is almost 3 times larger than the latter (together with the islands), there is enough wooded and swampy terrain instead of mountainous. Among the main weapons are:
    - armored vehicles: 81 BMP series CV90, 44 Dutch (transaction 12.2014) and 37 Norwegian (01.2016), 140 armored personnel carriers Sisu (Patria) XA-180 6x6 series (60 Finnish, 81 Dutch), 20 armored personnel carriers-80 (8x8);
    - artillery and mortars: 24 155-mm howitzers FH-70 (Germany), 42 122 mm-howitzers D-30 (Finnish H-63), 165 120 mm-mortars m / 41D (Sweden) and 90 81-mm mortars L16A1 (10) / M252 (80);
    - Fri-va: 120 ATGM FGM-148 Javelin (lots of 80 and 40 units), a sufficient number of RPGs (82-mm B-300, 84-mm AT-4 and Karl Gustav M2 / M3), 160 90 mm and 106 mm recoilless guns Bofors and M40A1;
    - anti-aircraft systems: 50 MANPADS Mistral, 98 23-mm ZAU ZU-23-2.

    In order not to compare with all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, we can compare with one of our nearest guard units (76th Guards Airborne Forces, Pskov), a fragment of the structural diagram of the airborne forces from the same Wiki (click):

    If I’m not mistaken, there will be 2 1-mm Grad-V MLRS BM-76V (on GAZ-6), 122/21 66-mm howitzers D-12, 18 122-mm in 30 infantry regiments and 54 artillery regiment 120 airborne CJSC Nona-S, 18 125-mm CJSC Sprut-SD, and more than 210 BMD excluding BTR-D. 82-mm portable company mortars (2B14), anti-aircraft and anti-aircraft guards of the division in d.s. did not take into account.
  50. k_ply
    k_ply 23 February 2016 15: 39
    +1
    Armored cam

    As for the deployment of NATO troops in these countries, the United States is transferring a brigade group from Germany to Eastern Europe, which is armed with 90 Abrams tanks, 140 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, 20 M109A6 self-propelled guns.

    For information, and from mistrust to the expert author. It is known that in Europe, in addition to 2 OBKRP strikers (FRG) and 173 OVDBRs (Italy), there are no US permanent formations, for the training period here additionally deployed, l / s in rotation, BTG (battalion tactical groups), or 1 of 3 -bbg (combat brigade groups) 1st Cavalry (brt) divisions, but here in the Federal Republic of Germany and on the warehouses of the ILC (command of shipping) the Navy in Europe also stockpiled heavy weapons and equipment for the deployment of 3 ak (army case: already familiar 1 cd, 1 brtd, 1 and 4 mechanical divisions, 3 air defense strike), this is actually the destination region 3 ac. 18 airborne forces (airborne corps: 3 md, 10 infantry fighting forces, 82 airborne forces, 101 airborne troops) of the BCC combined central command (region: South-West and Central Asia, Kazakhstan and Egypt) may be transferred here. In addition, in Estonia, the BTG of the 4th British Black Rats Brigade was lit up, which also hurts.