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Missed heights

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The reasons for the defeat of the Syrian army were visible to the naked eye.


Now that the SAR army has won a number of victories, freed several strategically important settlements and cities, it is possible to take a more objective look at the actions of the Syrian troops, to understand the reasons for their past failures. As, however, and to analyze the tactics of the actions of the enemy. Why, even with the support of the Russian VKS, the Syrian military for a long time could not achieve serious success?

In discussing issues of big strategy, what is happening at the grassroots, tactical level of war is often overlooked. Certain observations of the actions of the Syrian Arab army were made by the author of these lines in the north of Latakia, in the mountainous region of Nabiyunis in November 2015.

Shoulder to shoulder did not work


The mountains of this area are covered with sparse vegetation, the slopes are clearly visible, which certainly hampered the advancement of the Syrian troops. But the main thing that caught my eye was that the units of the CAA did not represent a cohesive fighting force capable of carrying out operations based on the interaction of various combat arms. I do not want to repeat what was said by Colonel of the American Army retired Norvel De Atkin in his work “Why Arabs Lose Wars” (Why Arabs Lose Wars), published 1999 in December in the Middle East Quarterly No. 4, but he, I think, noticed one of the reasons. The traditional hierarchical culture of the Arab societies, in particular the habit of relying only on people from the closest (often family or tribal) circle, leads to the extreme difficulty or even the impossibility of working out and implementing in battle the interaction between units and subunits. Unfortunately, we have to state that the formations seen in the Nabijnis area are not the army, but at best, the militia of the male weapons. Tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were used extremely inefficiently. There was no connection between infantry and armored vehicles, which did not allow for the establishment of elementary interaction. Armored vehicles, if it was on the same footing with the infantry, operated outside the situation and space. Even when there was every opportunity to support the infantry units, in most cases this was not done. Tankers, justifying themselves, alluded to the fact that they could only accept instructions for moving or opening fire from their superior commanders. But it was not possible to find them at the right moment.

There was not even a hint of coordinated action between the infantry units. Each commander was guided by his own concepts, did not react to the neighbors' requests for help. I had to be an eyewitness to the situation when even his soldiers, who had fallen into a difficult situation, the battalion commander did not try to help, remaining fairly calm, if not indifferent to what was happening.

When the forward detachment of ten Syrian soldiers seized a skyscraper, in order to consolidate the results, it was necessary to tighten the reserves and equip defensive positions on it. Instead, the battalion stubbornly caused artillery fire across the squares, without giving exact coordinates. Soldiers thrown to a height, in fact, remained without cover and, having spent ammunition, were forced to leave positions with losses.

To characterize the level of training of military personnel, it is worth giving such an eloquent example. The commander of the Syrian company, with whom he had the opportunity to talk, seriously argued that with the help of fire from the AHU he could specify targets for artillery, located a dozen kilometers from the scene, in the absence of gunners in the area of ​​the clash.

Topographic maps in the divisions of the Syrian army - a rare phenomenon. Many commanders use primitive schemes drawn on notebook sheets.

Even having GPS navigators in the unit, the officers do not use them. Either they do not know how to use it, or they understand that the announcement of their exact position will not allow them to lie to the higher command about their whereabouts.

The level of performance discipline left much to be desired. Commanders, it seems, were afraid of the soldiers. And those, the impression was made, at presentation of the big requirements could just run up.

The inability to organize the advancement of the Syrian military is often attributed to the fact that militants built deep caves and long-term firing points of concrete. However, this did not always correspond to reality - on the heights inspected by me already defeated from the enemy, no major defensive structures were found. Occasionally there were trenches with an incomplete profile and stone overlays laid out for stone for positions designed for one or two shooters.

Action Things and Possible Countermeasures


If you try to reconstruct the defensive tactics of anti-government units to maintain heights, then its concept is based on the inability of the attackers to cling to the firing shaft, adjusted for terrain conditions.

Missed heightsIn turn, the enemy CAA was well equipped with motorcycles and passenger vehicles of high cross. It is clear that when planes appear or at the beginning of the shelling, the militants take off and in a matter of minutes take the personnel out of the strike. And then quickly come back. Along the way, they identify themselves with shots from small arms, which creates the appearance of resistance, misleads about the presence of defenders in positions and thereby slows down the advancement of government troops.

In some cases, gunmen appeared on the processed aviation positions in 5-10 minutes. But during this time, not a single infantry unit of the SAA managed to overcome the neutral zone. Ultimately, with the approach of government troops, the rebels managed to restore battle formations and were met with dense fire.

Thus, the enemy preferred to use tactics of maneuvering defense and, with an obvious superiority of forces, did not depart from heights in his favor, he began to immediately process the positions left behind from artillery and mortars at the previously adjusted points. The speed of opening fire and the accuracy of hits spoke about it. In such situations, the Syrian infantry, suffering losses, was forced to retreat from the positions they had just occupied.

The active use of improvised vehicles (motorcycles, jeeps) greatly facilitated the enemy's use of well-disguised firing points. Militants were brought to them "unpredictably" and just as suddenly removed them from positions. Thanks to such “wandering” firing points, the enemy's defense configuration, even in field conditions, always remained for the Syrian military not fully revealed.

Against this background, the Syrian army looked inactive, sluggish. Having no experience of maneuvering actions, she significantly lost to the opposing side in mobility.

What tactical countermeasures could be taken to counter the above tactics of militants? In the divisions of the CAA a sufficient number of vehicles of high cross with mounted on them large-caliber machine guns such as DShK. But for the most part they are used as a traveling, for infantry fire support is used extremely rarely. Including due to the fact that in the mountains it is difficult to find a comfortable position for shooting from a car. But equipping them with AGS, “Cliff” type machine guns or anti-tank guided missiles, which are easy to remove and use in infantry ranks, could fix the situation.

It is worth thinking about a more effective use in the infantry ranks of observers-gunners, working directly with armored vehicles. They could become eyes and ears for tank units. Such a symbiosis would make it possible to increase the effectiveness of combat vehicles, and for infantry to receive powerful and mobile fire support.

The reason for the problems, it seems, is also in the fact that in November 2015, the Syrian military, unfortunately, did not see the habit of systematically engaged in combat training, coordinating units. You should pay attention to it today.

Since Russia was directly involved in the conflict, our advisers and military experts are there, these problems of the Syrian army could not ignore our instructors, specialists, and the leadership of the Russian Aerospace Force. After all, the SAR army at that time could only to a limited extent use the results of the bombing of Russian aviation.

Judging by today's successes of the Syrian military, the conclusions have been made. But this does not mean that all problems are solved. The training of SAR servicemen requires further improvement. If the level is not raised, then this factor will ultimately not allow solving the tasks set in the near future. And drawing in a war of many years is not in our interests.
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  1. Oleneboy_
    Oleneboy_ 18 February 2016 05: 54
    -26 qualifying.
    Why the article? The Syrians will win. They have a good ally in our person. We are not losing .. Something like this ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 18 February 2016 06: 07
      27
      Once, at the entrance to our military schools, you were expected to meet a poster:"Learn military affairs in a real way! V. I. Lenin 'True, the latent democrats then ordered them to be removed, without having come up with anything positive and stimulating in return! Nevertheless, the words are relevant for all the army of the world ... The fee is very high!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 February 2016 06: 22
        16
        An excellent professionally honest article by a Russian military expert adviser on the results of his observation of the conduct of combat operations by the ATS directly on the ground in Syria. His analysis of the conduct of hostilities in the real situation in Syria is very important and, as they say, is worth a lot.

        To author +
        1. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 18 February 2016 08: 23
          +6
          Quote: Tatiana
          Excellent professionally honest article by a Russian military expert advisor
          - The essence of the article is clear: the mentality of the Syrians must be taken into account and aligned in the direction necessary for victory. Here Israel takes this matter into account and holds on to one in twenty already in 60 years. Psychology, however ...
      2. user
        user 18 February 2016 20: 21
        0
        "Learn military affairs in a real way! V. I. Lenin '


        There is such a profession to defend the homeland, it’s said, but the East is a delicate matter, everything is done on the basis of generic grounds, by the way, like in the Caucasus. And most importantly, approximately the same characteristic was left by Soviet advisers based on the results of the Arab-Israeli wars (they did not mention the prayer only). Professional military training is set at a low level, especially the fulfillment of the task, there is nothing to add.
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    3. svp67
      svp67 20 February 2016 22: 47
      0
      Quote: Oleneboy_
      Why the article?
      When assessing the situation, each commander MUST assess the capabilities of his units and those of the neighbors ...
  2. venaya
    venaya 18 February 2016 06: 03
    10
    Training of ATS soldiers requires further improvement.

    An article on the fingers explains the reasons for the failure of government forces. Of course, much can be corrected, only the loss of precious time for today is obvious.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 18 February 2016 06: 35
      +4
      Quote: venaya
      only the loss of precious time for today is obvious.

      but with our help they’ll catch up. albeit with great difficulty
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2016 06: 05
    -9
    November 2015 year.

    Strange, then according to the author’s definition, it turns out that our military advisers haven’t done anything good at that time? But the subsequent results of the actions of the Syrian army suggest the opposite.
    If the level is not raised, then this factor will ultimately not allow to solve the tasks in the short term

    The author, you will excuse me, but you are making a conclusion that any student could draw. I personally did not like the article.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 18 February 2016 06: 38
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Strange, then according to the author’s definition, it turns out that our military advisers haven’t done anything good at that time?

      but what could they do if they did not listen to them? in an article about this, although not directly, it is said. you cannot deliver an adviser to each commander. it will be easier to fight by ourselves
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 18 February 2016 07: 24
      +9
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I personally did not like the article.

      The article is more like a statement of the fact that the Syrian military was not ready to conduct a mobile war, this is a fact, and the fact that Western instructors with armaments are behind the Dayts is also a fact, that with the help of our VKS and instructors, we smeared snot in the face of everyone to these DAIs and to, the same does not require proof.
      Well, what did you want from the "Parade" army of Syria? If the army does not fight and train, then it decays. As in Libya, for example, that they could, but nothing by and large, the senior officers were mad there with fat, the jeep was not a jeep, the apartment was not an apartment, then Kadafi invited our specialist, then he did not like the conditions, he invited the British, well, in the end, everyone saw what this disgrace led to from a relaxed army.
      This amused me, the author is at least minus.

      Even having GPS navigators in the unit, officers do not use them.

      According to a participant in the events of 08-08-08, Then there all the navigators were lying shamelessly, the Americans made changes to the signals of the satellites, and there the navigator, like a cow's saddle, rescued a good compass and a map on the "knee".
      Now about the pribluda, in the form of collimators, and other fashionable baubles from Western manufacturers, recently all these baubles, at one of the "events", flew off nafig, it turned out that the tabs in the collimators worked. So, as always, the old grandfather's method helps out. In general, we are substituting import, and we will be happy.
      1. noskov
        noskov 18 February 2016 07: 49
        -6
        Quote: Sirocco
        Quote: rotmistr60
        I personally did not like the article.

        The article is more like a statement of the fact that the Syrian military was not ready to conduct a mobile war, this is a fact, and the fact that Western instructors with armaments are behind the Dayts is also a fact, that with the help of our VKS and instructors, we smeared snot in the face of everyone to these DAIs and to, the same does not require proof.
        Well, what did you want from the "Parade" army of Syria? If the army does not fight and train, then it decays. As in Libya, for example, that they could, but nothing by and large, the senior officers were mad there with fat, the jeep was not a jeep, the apartment was not an apartment, then Kadafi invited our specialist, then he did not like the conditions, he invited the British, well, in the end, everyone saw what this disgrace led to from a relaxed army.
        This amused me, the author is at least minus.

        Even having GPS navigators in the unit, officers do not use them.

        According to a participant in the events of 08-08-08, Then there all the navigators were lying shamelessly, the Americans made changes to the signals of the satellites, and there the navigator, like a cow's saddle, rescued a good compass and a map on the "knee".
        Now about the pribluda, in the form of collimators, and other fashionable baubles from Western manufacturers, recently all these baubles, at one of the "events", flew off nafig, it turned out that the tabs in the collimators worked. So, as always, the old grandfather's method helps out. In general, we are substituting import, and we will be happy.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 18 February 2016 08: 11
          +3
          Yura, what is it with you?
      2. noskov
        noskov 18 February 2016 07: 49
        -4
        Quote: Sirocco
        Quote: rotmistr60
        I personally did not like the article.

        The article is more like a statement of the fact that the Syrian military was not ready to conduct a mobile war, this is a fact, and the fact that Western instructors with armaments are behind the Dayts is also a fact, that with the help of our VKS and instructors, we smeared snot in the face of everyone to these DAIs and to, the same does not require proof.
        Well, what did you want from the "Parade" army of Syria? If the army does not fight and train, then it decays. As in Libya, for example, that they could, but nothing by and large, the senior officers were mad there with fat, the jeep was not a jeep, the apartment was not an apartment, then Kadafi invited our specialist, then he did not like the conditions, he invited the British, well, in the end, everyone saw what this disgrace led to from a relaxed army.
        This amused me, the author is at least minus.

        Even having GPS navigators in the unit, officers do not use them.

        According to a participant in the events of 08-08-08, Then there all the navigators were lying shamelessly, the Americans made changes to the signals of the satellites, and there the navigator, like a cow's saddle, rescued a good compass and a map on the "knee".
        Now about the pribluda, in the form of collimators, and other fashionable baubles from Western manufacturers, recently all these baubles, at one of the "events", flew off nafig, it turned out that the tabs in the collimators worked. So, as always, the old grandfather's method helps out. In general, we are substituting import, and we will be happy.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 18 February 2016 06: 06
    0
    The reasons for the defeat of the Syrian army were visible to the naked eye.
    I think it’s not so simple, for sure the barmaley have instructors who determine tactics, now the CAA also has instructors, hence the change in the theater of operations.
  5. VP
    VP 18 February 2016 06: 06
    +4
    And in the previous article, it was argued that they lost because of bicycles, ugh, i.e. there were no motorcycles. And as ours taught them to ride and beep, and everything worked out right away, even a link to a Mirik magazine was given as something like "that's what the enemies write about us cool, hurray" laughing
  6. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 18 February 2016 06: 06
    +2
    The army in the barracks and the army in combat are somewhat different armies. Opportunities for training are incomparable. But war is the best teacher who does not forgive mistakes. And the offensive, in spite of everything, continues.
  7. Wolka
    Wolka 18 February 2016 06: 08
    +2
    albeit subjective but good analysis, without unnecessary verbal husks, but the truth is somewhere in the middle ...
  8. VP
    VP 18 February 2016 06: 09
    +2
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Strange, then according to the author’s definition, it turns out that our military advisers haven’t done anything good at that time? But the subsequent results of the actions of the Syrian army suggest the opposite.

    Already cited what exactly our military advisers are forced to do
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/28995
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/29213
  9. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 18 February 2016 06: 13
    +5
    ATS failure analysis done. Now the elimination of miscalculations and go!
  10. ochakow703
    ochakow703 18 February 2016 06: 14
    +3
    Yes, of course they will win. The only question is when and how much it will cost. Each day of our VKS operation costs not a small amount of money, plus the supply of weapons and ammunition is also not always paid (and most likely donated). So it’s best for us to finish this whole mosquito as quickly as possible. Both for political and economic reasons.
  11. SAM 5
    SAM 5 18 February 2016 06: 14
    0
    Normally, everything is analyzed, and a conclusion is drawn. Will CAA only conclude? Otherwise, everything may return to the original.
  12. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 February 2016 06: 15
    +1
    If everything is so bad there, then why has the Syrian army not yet surrendered the entire country with an ishil? The author clearly exaggerates - Arabs are not the strongest warriors, but after 4 years they did not surrender Syria, they fought, maybe badly, but Assad held power and keeps it.
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 18 February 2016 06: 25
      -1
      If everything is so bad there, then why has the Syrian army not yet surrendered the entire country with an ishil?

      If not for our intervention, perhaps Syria, as such, would not have existed. And it doesn’t matter who put the hand of the Islamic State, Turkey or the so-called coalition. And most likely all together.
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 18 February 2016 11: 56
      0
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      If everything is so bad there, then why has the Syrian army not yet surrendered the entire country with an ishil? The author is clearly exaggerating - Arabs are not the strongest warriors, but after 4 years they did not surrender Syria, they fought, maybe badly,

      Well, Duc because 4 years and held on the other hand, the same Arabs .... laughing
      1. castle
        castle 18 February 2016 13: 40
        0
        Syrians are not Arabs. This is the first.
        The Syrian (Assad) army did not hold out. She, more or less, tried to keep the territories supporting Assad. Look at the map - there you will see that there are 1/16 of Syria. This is the second.
        Apart from the territory under ISIS, the rest of Syria is in the hands of groups supported by the civilian population, who do not want Assad. They do not want to, but sometimes the Syrian army is helped in battles against ISIS (Daesh), and sometimes they fight against each other. It is enough to tell the Russian VKS the coordinates of their rivals and say that this is probably DAISH! Sometimes the Syrian army does the same.
        Why don't many Syrians want Assad? Because PAPA Hafiz Al-Assad ruled there by force and without the right to choose, now Bashar al-Assad with his family and "friends", and the rest were given the right to freely remain silent and obey. Isn't there an analogy with some other state?
        Russia wants to help Assad renew his power over all of Syria? For God's sake! Only you can't be cute. Then the partisans will begin. And against the Russian group too. And on the international stage, Russia will have a new friend. Afghanistan "will rest".
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 18 February 2016 15: 52
          0
          Quote: hrad
          Not visible there is an analogy with another state?
          Russia wants to help Assad renew his power over all of Syria? For God's sake! Only you can't be cute. Then the partisans will begin. And against the Russian group too. And on the international stage, Russia will have a new friend. Afghanistan "will rest".

          The analogy is complete with Libya, here is where complete happiness, peace and quiet, but God's grace after the intervention of NATO (where the country under your flag enters), and no partisans. Did you make the Libyans happy? Even from this point of view, keep silent to you. if we remember that we have a base there, then we all went to ... In Syria, we defend our interests, both military and geopolitical, and without violating international norms. And "this friend" is old with us, we just finally decided to start "be friends at a party", maybe the other "friends" will understand something ..
  13. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 18 February 2016 06: 15
    +1
    Analysis and further conclusions are very good. This is the way to advance and overcome. Specificity is specificity, but the immutable laws of tactics can not be canceled by anyone, just like physical laws. No one is more experienced than the Russian Army in the liberation of territories, which shows the participation of our military specialists. Another six months there, and the progress of the Syrians is great. It will be better further, that’s why different lice and bedbugs flocked there, wanting to stop the advance of the Syrian troops. Hut to you Native American folk!
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 February 2016 06: 20
    0
    Unfortunately, we have to admit: the formations seen in the Nabiyunis region are not an army, but at best a militia of males with weapons.

    The author probably forgot that by this time the Syrian army had been fighting for four years on its own against not only terrorists, but also against the active help of these bandits by the Western coalition. It seemed that the author simply noted with this article that he was (it’s not clear on what matters) in Syria and once again indicated it was unreasonable to act.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 February 2016 06: 43
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      once again indicated unreasonable how to act.

      Objection in fact, pliz: what the author did not set out correctly? From your point of view, of course. What Arabs warriors showed their war with a small famous state that appeared on the Palestinian lands in 1948.
    2. VP
      VP 18 February 2016 06: 48
      +2
      The author probably forgot that by this time the Syrian army had been fighting for four years on its own against not only terrorists, but also against the active help of these bandits by the Western coalition.

      You do not recall exactly how she fought?
      Well, I’ll remind you: they lost almost the entire country and there was not even hope for at least stabilization of the fronts.
      Last year, ours came to Syria with nothing to do, it’s just that the SAA already had an edge, without Syria’s active support it would not have lasted for a long time and this was obvious to everyone.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 18 February 2016 07: 36
        0
        You do not recall exactly how she fought?

        Let me remind you, incurring losses, losing territory, but not raising hands. They would be ashamed to talk about those who have been fighting for the fifth year.
        1. VP
          VP 18 February 2016 08: 11
          +7
          Try to write without pathos, sometimes there is more than enough of it on a resource.
          There are dry facts. The government throughout all these years hopelessly surrendered city after city, province after province, the fighting was already in the suburbs of the capital.
          Desertion from the army was massive. The same "Syrian Free Army" in many respects consists of these defectors, and not various trash but trained warriors, and it is headed by former colonels and brigadier generals.
          "Without raising hands" and fought well, these are completely different categories.
          She fought badly. The author wrote about some of the reasons for this. In response, you give him nothing but general phrases.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 18 February 2016 09: 00
            -1
            Try to write without pathos

            What pathos are you talking about? Paphos is that the Syrian army is fighting. Or maybe pathos in the fact that the Western coalition could not throw B. Assad? What pathos are you talking about?
            1. VP
              VP 18 February 2016 10: 27
              +1
              The pathos lies in the fact that in response to comments about the shortcomings and jambs of the CAA, you issue a slogan about "they are at war, they are heroes", brushing aside any shortcomings.
              Like, this is an argument against the fact that they have fought frankly badly all this time. If they fought normally, Russia wouldn’t have to get in there, they would have managed much earlier.
              I read quite a lot of evidence from ours about how the Syrians are fighting. Almost all of them, without denying that the guys are fighting, write furiously enough that they often fight at the same time in a stupid and disorganized way.
              And the first thing our advisers did in the fall was to prepare a couple of normal brigades from the Syrians (in my opinion, a couple, I can be mistaken, maybe more) which are now the shock force of the SAA in operations.
    3. jPilot
      jPilot 18 February 2016 06: 59
      +4
      The author did not forget anything, he stated what he saw from the point of view of a military expert, his analysis and explains why, before the arrival of our Armed Forces, the SAA, which had been at war for four years already, had not had any success and progress. And there is nothing surprising, all that the author of the article described is the so-called "eastern mentality" and even an agricultural poor country. And for a collective farmer, the most important thing is his plot that feeds, so he protects him, and what happens next he does not care.
      Remember Afghan, in the daytime he is a harmless plowman, and at night he is a "dushman" and a bandit, hence the cleansing of the villages.
      The article is literate and explains a lot, moreover, it explains to YOU ​​SOFA STRATEGIES, because it was clear to us as military personnel. It is not in vain that several types of tactics are studied at the military school, although I still do not understand why "tactics of foreign states" secret literature request
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 18 February 2016 07: 41
        -2
        he stated what he saw from the point of view of the military specialist

        Actually, this is an analysis at the level of the second-year cadet of the general military school, which, on the basis of the Combat Manual of the Ground Forces (BUSV), can explain the same to you. For fun, read BUSV 39 years. There are also about motorcycles and even about bicycles (which the Germans actively used in WWII).
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 18 February 2016 08: 51
          -2
          Apparently, only the author is minus. It’s a pity that the author is probably not familiar with BUSW, but rather is familiar and passes this off as his analytics. If possible I would put one more - and bold.
        2. VP
          VP 18 February 2016 08: 52
          +4
          What does motorcycles have to do with it?
          Or are you an adherent of that fake article in some American magazine that explains all recent successes with these clunkers about which the SAA for some reason suddenly did not even suspect although the whole BV always moved to them ??
  15. Chisayna
    Chisayna 18 February 2016 06: 37
    0
    Author Alexander Mukharev. This is not the same A. Mukharev who, under the call sign As, volunteered to fight in Transnistria and the former Yugoslavia.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 February 2016 06: 57
    +5
    The author writes correctly. A properly organized army is ALWAYS stronger than any partisans and barmaley. The SAR army lacked the organization and training of HP, from senior officers to privates. Officers without cards are something! Judging by the latest reports, our advisers are somehow turning the tide. The army solves the task by blocking the border with the Ottomans. Now Erdogan's hysteria is becoming more understandable. After victories and "reformatting" of the army, he will not take the Syrians with his bare hands, as he hoped. And every day these wet dreams go "beyond the event horizon" farther and farther.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 18 February 2016 10: 09
      +1
      Officers without cards are something!

      But on the video of Vesti correspondents we see something completely different. The Syrian army makes great use of maps and possibly crocs (for the uninitiated, this is a diagram, a plan).
      1. jPilot
        jPilot 18 February 2016 10: 42
        +2
        What you see on the video, these are the units that instruct and try to organize our advisers. And glory to these OUR guys, because it’s really hard work to explain, organize and lead to the victory of people in tactics and strategies who do not understand anything, and even speak another language.
        Recently, just our adviser died, the earth rest in peace.
  17. Mera joota
    Mera joota 18 February 2016 07: 09
    +6
    Why, even with the support of the Russian air forces, the Syrian military for a long time could not achieve serious success?

    Well, probably because aviation is far from the main element of success. Only thanks to artillery did the success of the SAA become possible. But then Assad will say that there was artillery before, but did he lose? Quite right, the very presence of barrels does not mean anything, the Rebel has it too, the main thing is who uses it, in the sense it organizes the whole process from reconnaissance to the supply of ammunition. The professionalism of Asad’s gunners is obvious, he is in the area of ​​zero, so the professionals began to work for a short time to teach what they have been taught for years, and then hone for years at the training ground impossible.
    The "cosmonauts" can declare as much as they want about the destroyed "command posts" and "training centers", but the rebels are fleeing from the artillery, which blows everything in its path to dust (on a tip from the PAN and aviation, of course).
    Those. even if our "cosmonauts" are landed, nothing will change much, the rebels have no chances to resist 152mm. Msta-B is not ... Assad should thank not the "cosmonauts", but those who "will not be there."
  18. Indifferent
    Indifferent 18 February 2016 07: 39
    +5
    Thanks to the author for the article! I also did not understand the tactical moves of the Syrian army for a long time. Even from the shootings on YouTube, it was clearly visible that the tanks at the SAA were fighting on their own, and the infantry itself. There are shots where an Igilovets climbs onto a tank and throws a grenade into the hatch. There is no infantry. There is no one to knock this fighter off the armor if a machine gun from a neighboring tank does not help.
    Now everything becomes clear. The Syrians will have to learn real interaction for a long time, despite the vast military experience.
  19. 31rus
    31rus 18 February 2016 08: 22
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    Dear, the article is correct, but for a long time I have been asking the question, why did they start delivering modern weapons to Syria so late? Another question is why foreign advisers are to blame for everything, and what were you waiting for? On the territory that the militants seized by defeating both the Syrian and Iraqi armies , it was possible to understand the enemy was seriously prepared, the Iraqi army was trained by the same specialists, so what's the matter? Correctly, the author noted that in poor preparation, the interests of individual, above the interests of the case, was not surprised by the seizure of "Kvadrat", "Wasp" by militants Here is the number of combat missions of the Aerospace Forces. And you say the Syrians will defeat the Turkish army. It is necessary to draw conclusions
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 February 2016 18: 55
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      Quote: 31rus
      And you say the Syrians will defeat the Turkish army.

      What do you say? And only the Syrians7
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  21. morituri
    morituri 18 February 2016 10: 43
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    Of course, thanks to the author for the article, but you can only agree with her conclusions with a huge stretch. The author claims to reveal the reasons for the failures of the CAA, but in his judgments he is primitive. like a schoolboy. "Failure because when we bomb they ran away, and when we stop they came running." Why are we bombing? such tz. I heard from one of the representatives of the Syrian Free Army, who was in Syria for the last time in 2010. "You are not bombing there - there are civilians - and the terrorists have already escaped." The Russian Aerospace Forces does not allow the militants to regroup, rest, receive replenishment and ammunition, etc. , and this is the main thing and it is about this that the media of Turkey and Europe howl !!!!
    PS Yes, and from experience I know that you can’t run in the mountains, especially not train)))
    1. VP
      VP 18 February 2016 12: 00
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      such t.z. I heard from one of the representatives of the Syrian Free Army, who was in Syria for the last time in 2010

      In 2010, there was no SSA, it arose only in mid-2011 from defectors from the Assad SAA
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 18 February 2016 18: 57
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      Quote: morituri
      you don’t run in the mountains, especially not train

      Indeed, and not for ..... sh.
  22. Vladimir
    Vladimir 18 February 2016 11: 07
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    Everything is clear, the help of Russia with weapons, equipment, and specialists, but did the Syrian army do something in terms of the same discipline, in terms of training officers, or is everything still the same, can soldiers still scatter?
  23. 31rus
    31rus 18 February 2016 11: 20
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    Dear, it is necessary to analyze any conflict, and here we are directly involved, and at a high technical level, especially the experience of fighting with ISIS, I’m sure it will be necessary to completely eliminate the infection, it’s already clear, then wait for a new war, sooner or later, article Of course, poorly reveals the causes of lesions and inputs must be done
  24. alicante11
    alicante11 18 February 2016 14: 36
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    In some ways, the CAA described by the author reminds me of the description of the RA in the first Chechen. In the same way, units fought on their own, tanks without infantry support, inability to interact with artillery. All this is characteristic of a mass conscript army, which is drawn into a war with professionals. Or even just with a better prepared opponent. An example is the Red Army in a border battle against the Wehrmacht. With experience comes improvement. But, it is clear that the militia and newly formed units still have to go the same way as the veterans, so that they stand out the backbone - the basis of the combat unit. The reason for the defeats of the Syrians, IMHO, is that the West was gradually increasing the number of well-trained militants. Using them against new and weak units, while strong and combat-ready units were associated with fights with simulacra such as CCA. And they could do it through ownership of the initiative. They did not need to protect the population, they did not need bases that needed to be protected, even communications were not so important for parts like SPN. Because they get all the food, medicine, and a significant part of the ammunition and fuel and lubricants by robbing the population of the occupied territories and repelling the enemy. At the same time, the consumption of ammunition, especially heavy, is not so great. Those. terrorists can, if necessary, when confronted with a powerful enemy, simply escape and appear where they are not waiting. Whereas an ordinary army has to stand to death, regardless of the size and quality of the enemy, and there is no way to seize the initiative, since there are no points by hitting them, you can force the terrorists to defend them by submitting to the actions of the army.
    How to seize the initiative in such a situation? The only value of paramilitary units is communication, which allows you to coordinate the movement of troops in the style of "move apart, hit together" (c) Moltke Sr. Coordination and logistics are impossible without communication. This is how the Russian aerospace forces and electronic warfare systems took up the destruction of communications. And until they seriously violated the structure of the terrorists' communications, destroying the notorious command posts and jamming communications in certain directions, the SAA's successes were not great, because the terrorists could regroup, escape from the attacks, and when the aviation transferred the attacks to other directions, reassemble and attack.
    Now, the SAA has the initiative, and the resistance of the militants is becoming increasingly chaotic. After all, there are fewer major offensive operations on their part.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 February 2016 19: 07
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      Quote: alicante11
      That's the destruction of communications and engaged in the Russian airborne forces and electronic warfare systems. And while they have not seriously violated the terrorist communications structure, by destroying the notorious command posts and jamming communications toonlinedirections, CAA successes were not great,

      Do not worry, in fact you are right, the connection is the nerves of war, who hit the enemy in the communication system, he got the advantage. Mukhin Yu. In his works directly indicates that there were 15 signalmen per pilot of the Luftwaffe / long live the communications troops! /
  25. alicante11
    alicante11 18 February 2016 14: 43
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    And I would advise the author to treat the Libyans more respectfully. Apparently, just Gaddafi had a completely professional army. The weaknesses of the Jamahiriya Armed Forces were the Air Force and Air Defense, which NATO took advantage of. Whereas the ground forces showed themselves generally not bad. They quickly blocked terrorists in Benghazi and Misurat. And only the NATO bombing did not allow these bastions of terrorists to clear. The defense of Sirte and Bani Valid is also indicative in the conditions of complete superiority of the enemy on earth and dominance in the air. Of course, betrayal could not have done, both in Libya and in Syria, but, unfortunately, in the face of the overwhelming superiority of the enemy, not everyone can resist the temptation to back down and save the hide, tarnishing the honor of betrayal. And this is not unique to Arabs.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 19 February 2016 10: 36
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      Quote: alicante11
      This is not unique to Arabs.

      ... and not only for the Arabs, but in general for the Semites!