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The first victories of Russian instructors

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Parts loyal to Assad have to be built from scratch


Over the past week, Syrian government troops reported on several successful operations, in particular in the north-west of the country in the so-called enclave of Salma, where in November last year a Russian front-line bomber Su-24M was shot down. However, while completely clean the area from the militants failed. But thanks to decisive and vigorous action, the troops loyal to Assad were able to take the city of Salma.

The victory of the Syrian Arab Army (CAA) went with great difficulty. And yet it should be noted: compared with last year's battles in the same area, in fact, a positional meat grinder, when at the cost of heavy losses government troops took a minor knoll to be knocked out from there, the professionalism and skills of the Damascus armed formations are steadily growing.

The CAA owes its success to the Russian military and not only the special-purpose aircraft factory, but also to advisers, specialists who train personnel and help them master the newest types of weapons and military equipment.

Damascus Forces

Our military were called to Damascus as advisers and worked in the country long before the outbreak of the civil war. Quite a large number of Syrian soldiers were trained in Russian military schools, in particular in the Combined Arms Academy.

According to the representative of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, familiar with the pre-war situation, the main problems of the CAA were an elementary shortage of trained people, low staffing of units and divisions. “If the officer corps is well prepared, then with the sergeant, and especially with the rank and file problems were enough. In fact, there were no brigades, regiments, etc., deployed in the state of wartime. In the event of war, they were planned to be manned with conscripts from the reserve. All specialists are communications operators, gunners, engineers, etc. turned out to be so only on paper. In fact, these are just guys with machine guns who couldn’t really shoot, ”the interlocutor of the“ MIC ”assesses the situation.

The military-political leadership of Syria was supported in a high degree of readiness by only a few mechanized brigades, the Republican Guard and special forces. But even in these units and subunits, staffing levels rarely exceeded 70 percent.

“Two Syrian special forces divisions had excellent training before the war. True, in our understanding, it is rather an analogue of the Airborne Forces. The Republican Guard is well equipped with both equipment and personnel. In fact, this army in the army. The guards and artillery, and units of the airborne troops, special purpose - all his own. The CAA was staffed for the most part with conscripts, and the Republican Guard was mostly professional military, ”explains the Defense Ministry spokesman, familiar with the pre-war Syrian army.

It is noteworthy that with the participation of the Russian advisers to the CAA, prior to the beginning of the civil war, she conducted exercises to deploy several divisions, when personnel were called up, removed from the storage of equipment, etc.

Since the beginning of the first battles in 2011, the number of Russian military advisers and specialists has decreased dramatically. In particular, judging by the photographs of the radio-technical center on Tal Al-Khar near Dara, captured by the Syrian Free Army in 2014, the Russian Armed Forces military personnel had not been at the facility for a long time. Although not all Russian contingent left Syria. Our specialists continued to assist the armed forces of Damascus, teaching servicemen to use and exploit the weapons and military equipment transferred to them, in particular, the Smerch and Uragan MLRSs.

Causes of loss


The main problem of the Syrian army in the civil war was the high loss of trained personnel. Soldiers, sergeants and officers not only died in battles. A rather large percentage went over to the side of various opposition and terrorist groups.

SAA command tried to compensate for the shortage of military personnel by massive use tanks and other armored vehicles. Suffice it to say that until recently, the government’s T-72, T-55, BMP-1, fighting in urban areas, appeared on video and photo chronicle as a symbol of the Syrian civil war.

The leadership of the country tried several times to solve the problem of lack of personnel, conducting partial mobilization. To no avail. As a result, the bet was made on the volunteer units that are being formed in the districts and settlements, whose fighters must weapons in the hands to protect their homes and families.

But if in the remaining units and divisions of the CAA, at least, combat training was organized, then the volunteers are ordinary civilians, without the required fighting skills, simply armed with the government and fighting terrorists. Although of the volunteers, only a small part directly participated in the hostilities. The bulk of them primarily serve at roadblocks and patrol the territory. Another serious problem is that volunteer units fight only on their own land, in the area from where they are recruited, and refuse to obey orders to transfer them to other areas.

With the start of the operation of the Armed Forces of Russia in Syria, government forces could not change the situation. Despite the massive use of armored vehicles and artillery, there was not enough trained personnel to secure success.

According to the Military-Industrial Courier, at the same time with the deployment of a special purpose air raid and the creation of the Khmeimim airbase at Basil Al-Assad International Airport, the Russian leadership in the fall of 2015 increased the number of military advisers and instructors who now had to solve two important tasks. First, to create more or less prepared units from scattered detachments and battalions. Secondly, to establish a system of evacuation and repair of wounded armored vehicles.

It should be noted that the problem of the return to service of failed military vehicles by the 2015 year faced the Syrian command very acutely. As the terrorist squads became saturated with relatively modern anti-tank weapons, the weapons and military equipment of the government troops grew, which were often not compensated for by the supply of “Syrian express” (the informal name of military aid to the Russian Federation - AR). According to sources of the Military Industrial Courier, familiar with the situation, the main material losses of the Syrian government forces are padded armored vehicles thrown on the battlefield, which can not only be evacuated, but also restored and returned to service.

It is clear that with such an attitude towards evacuation and repair, even continuous military assistance, including the supply of new T-90 tanks, heavy flame-thrower and artillery systems, will not save the situation.

Return to service

The Russian military department is trying not to advertise the presence of our military advisers and specialists, but does not deny it. As already noted, currently in various social networks and video hosting sites there are a lot of stories about the work of the Russian military in Syria (“MIC”, No. 1 – 2, 2016 - “Footprint of our infantryman”). The field of activity for them is huge. So, in the video, where the instruction of the Syrian volunteer snipers, mastering the treatment of SVD, is shown, a very low training of fighters is striking.

According to the Military-Industrial Courier, in general, work with volunteer formations turned out to be the most difficult. Despite the fact that many of the militiamen have had several years of war behind them, few people can shoot accurately, move competently on the battlefield, not to mention poor physical fitness. Commanders-volunteers, mostly chosen by the fighters themselves from the most authoritative, in their opinion, colleagues, are often unable to make decisions correctly in a difficult situation, competently lead the staff not only in battle, but also in everyday life.

A major problem remains the discipline of the personnel, who stood throughout the war at various checkpoints and were not willing to engage in normal combat training. Also, according to available data, the problem of ex-territoriality remains unresolved. The militias are ready to protect only their homes and do not express a desire to move to other areas.

In fact, volunteers have to be trained from scratch. First, individual training, then later coordination in the composition of the branches, platoons, mouth, only after that - the entire battalion.

Government regular troops not only have a richer combat experience, but also much more disciplined. But in the units and subunits of the CAA, there is still a shortage of competent officers and sergeants, because for almost five years of civil war, the regular army, as already mentioned, suffered very serious losses.

But if the individual training of her fighters is at a sufficiently high level, then it is necessary to act as part of the squad, platoon, company and battalion, like the militia, in fact, from the basics, to teach the military, even from special forces regiments.

Another problem of the Syrian regular units and units - low staffing. According to reports, in platoons from 20 to 30, a man in the state of "live" fighters is sometimes not a dozen, including the commander.

Not less difficult for the Russian military advisers and instructors was the organization of interaction between the commanders of brigades, divisions and military command bodies. Until recently, the fighting in Syria actually represented the chaotic movements of militias, individual companies and battalions of the regular Syrian army in different directions, often without even a single concept.

According to the interlocutor of the Military-Industrial Courier, familiar with the situation, the disunity of the pro-government forces was the biggest problem. In particular, gunners and pilots in most cases acted independently, without regard to the ground forces.

The exact data on how long the combat training cycle of one SSA battalion or militia detachment lasts are not disclosed. It can be assumed that we are talking about a period of at least six months. In particular, if the first units and subunits of the pro-government forces under the leadership of Russian instructors began to prepare in September 2015, then their debut became the battles in the “Salma enclave”, which became the indisputable success of the attackers.

The Syrian units and units undergoing training receive not only new field uniforms, but also body armor, protective helmets, in particular, Russian 6 B43, 6 B45 and 6 B27, both directly from the factory and from the stocks of the Russian army. For example, the 6 B45 bullet-proof vest, previously transferred from the warehouses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, with the unused last name of the former owner, was taken from the deceased Syrian was used by militants of an IG prohibited in our country as proof that they allegedly killed a Russian soldier. Judging by the photo and video chronicles, the Russian military are handing over to the Syrian colleagues also small arms: machine guns, machine guns, sniper rifles.

As vehicles, pro-government troops receive the Sadko GAZ-3308 two-axle truck, which had previously been replaced by the Mustangs in the Russian army and transferred to storage bases. Unfortunately, part of the gas, if you believe the photos, common IG, fell into the hands of the militants of this terrorist organization as trophies during the recent battles in eastern Syria.

According to our estimates, over the past six months, with the help of Russian advisers, they underwent training, as well as at least one SSA brigade and several battalions (detachments) of militias re-equipped and received new equipment. Our military experts and advisers have achieved serious success in training the Syrian troops. Units loyal to Damascus are already beginning to organize interaction not only with each other, but also with aviationartillery, etc. True, so far we have seen an increased professional level only among the troops operating mainly in the Salma region, where, most likely, according to the decision, the main efforts are concentrated.

But you can not underestimate the enemy. While the Syrian troops were successfully advancing near the Turkish border, in the east of the country, in the Deir Ez-Zor area, the Igilovs counterattacked the troops loyal to President Assad, not only pushing them off, but also taking a large number of trophies.

One of the most acute problems of the Syrian Arab army is the traditionally low culture of maintenance and repair of military equipment. The low general level of training of the personnel did not allow to properly exploit the rather varied weapons and military equipment park.

The technical illiteracy of the operators suffered not only such complex models as anti-aircraft missile systems, but also much simpler ones - tanks, towed artillery guns, infantry fighting vehicles. According to the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, who was familiar with the pre-war situation, due to improper storage and operation of artillery systems, most of them were constantly experiencing leakage of recoil fluid, armored vehicles and radio stations did not work on armored vehicles. The batteries were constantly stolen, and those that remained in stock, almost did not hold a charge. Not only the crews of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, calculations of self-propelled guns, but also the commanders of units and subunits, as well as their technical deputies, did not monitor the oil level in the engines, the refilling was not carried out on time. Despite the great dustiness, the filters did not change, at best they were cleaned manually.

At the end of 1990 - the beginning of 2000 - s, Syria upgraded about two hundred T-72 tanks, installing Italian TURMS-T fire control systems with a laser range finder and a ballistic computer on them.

Such "seventy-second" armed elite units of the Republican Guard, differing from the Syrian Arab army more prepared and technically competent personnel, and yet to the beginning of the civil war survived no more than two dozen vehicles. And the Italian MSA TURMS-T due to improper operation and poor maintenance failed first.

One-time approach


With the start of full-scale battles between the loyal Assad formations and anti-government units, our specialists continued to carry out their tasks, although a significant part returned to their homeland. The number of military specialists has increased slightly since the moment when the “Syrian Express” began to work actively in 2012. We are talking about large-scale deliveries of Russian arms and military equipment to government forces. The name is given by analogy with the famous "Tokyo Express" (imperial delivery fleet assistance to the troops fighting on the Guadalcanal in 1942), since large landing ships were used to transport various cargoes to Syria, crossing from our Black Sea ports to Latakia and Tartus. Damage was transferred to T-72, BMP-1, armored personnel carriers, GAZ-3308 "Sadko", MLRS "Grad" and other samples.

According to the military industrial complex, after the transfer of the Smerch and Uragan multiple rocket launchers to the pro-government forces, the Russian specialists trained the military not only to use these complex systems, but also to carry out their maintenance and maintenance. True, the low level of technical training of CAA personnel, as well as the often unjustified use of vehicles in battle, with which the commanders compensated for the lack of infantry, led to heavy losses.

In most cases, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, which received minimal damage, simply threw themselves onto the battlefield without attempting to evacuate them. At the same time, in the CAA reserve, there was still a huge amount of units of equipment that were still faulty since the pre-war times, which after restoration could be sent against the terrorists. According to the well-known “military industrial complex”, observers estimate that the Syrian military has developed a kind of stereotype: why regret weapons and military equipment, if you still send a new one.

Inflated from the north


At the end of the summer of 2015, the newest Russian BTR-30 armed with 82-mm automatic cannon appeared at the pro-government formations. It is not entirely clear who drove the armored personnel carriers - the Syrian military personnel or Russian instructors. On video clips distributed on the Web, Russian speech is sometimes clearly heard.

If the use of the BTR-82 was still sporadic, the appearance of the T-90 tanks in the CAA attracted close attention from domestic and foreign media. The exact number of "nineties" transferred to Damascus is unknown, but according to the "MIC", there are no more than two dozen so far. The new tanks came from the presence of the Russian defense department, which, in particular, is indicated by the characteristic tricolor deforming coloring scheme of combat vehicles.

Why the choice was made in favor of the T-90, and not the actively upgraded T-72B3 currently being delivered to the Ground Forces of the Russian Armed Forces, there is no clear explanation. According to the source "MIC", familiar with the situation, preference is given to the "ninetieth" because of its better protection in urban combat, as well as when the enemy uses anti-tank weapons. The elements of the “Kontakt-5” dynamic protection system installed on T-90, in combination with the thickness and shape of the armor, make it possible to more effectively protect the turret from damage from hand-held rocket launchers compared to T-72B3. At the same time, the “Shutter” complex can not only warn the crew of the tank about laser targeting and put a smoke screen on it, but also hit the radiation source by turning the tower in “Transfer” mode at high speed in the right direction.

The first victories of Russian instructors


True, according to the interlocutor of the "MIC", in a city battle situation, a tank is not always affected by RPG fire in the turret, often in the air. In this case, the lateral protection of both the T-90 and the T-72B3 is equally weak. But as the experience of urban battles in Syria shows, with relatively narrow streets and high-rise buildings, the terrorists mostly fire from the upper floors, trying to hit the tank in the least protected, from their point of view, part is the top sheet, a place that is reliably covered on T -90 elements of dynamic protection.

Interestingly, some of the “nineties” transferred to Syria are older machines with the so-called cast turret, although there are modern samples with welded armor. If we compare all the facts, we can assume that the 20-I motorized rifle brigade from Volgograd most likely said goodbye to a part of its “nineties”. She was the only one where the "cast" T-90 still remained. Videos have already appeared on the Internet, where one of the opposition groups allegedly destroys the "ninetieth" anti-tank complex "Tou-2". Representatives of the Ministry of Defense, who were familiar with the situation, did not deny, but did not confirm this fact. Still, with a great deal of confidence, it can be argued that the video impresses the old Syrian T-72.

The training of T-90 tank crews by Russian military specialists, in particular, the development of the OMS and the Shtora complex, took several months. In addition to using onboard equipment, Syrian crews were trained in the maintenance and repair of all elements of the machine. As the interlocutor of the "MIC" said: "In the volumes established by regulatory documents."

In addition to the T-90, the CAA also received the TOS-1A heavy flame-thrower systems, also from the stocks of the Russian army. The training of the Syrian calculations of the “Sun chains” took much less time than the crews on the T-90, due to the fact that TOC was decided to be used only for firing from closed positions. Accordingly, the course of combat training was significantly reduced. In addition, the situation that had developed at the time of delivery to Syria TOC required that Sunsheets be brought into battle as quickly as possible, so the calculations were completed from experienced gunners, who were not hard to retrain.

With the start of the operation of the VKS of the Russian Federation, another major task for our military specialists was the organization of the restoration of weapons and military equipment, including those stored for a long time. According to calculations, known by the "military industrial complex", the pre-war reserves, combined with the previously delivered "Syrian express" machines, are more than enough to fight terrorists. But if the government forces continue to be guided by the principle “Do not regret, they still give them anyway”, then no supplies, especially now, when the intensity of the battles has increased many times, will not save the situation.

Repair on an industrial scale


According to some reports, several factories have already been restored in Syria, where not only tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are being repaired, but also artillery and even air defense systems. Evacuation units were created and trained, taking out damaged and outdated equipment from the battlefield. There were also maneuverable groups sent to Syrian units for repair and maintenance of weapons and military equipment.

In the process of restoring Syrian armored vehicles, its modernization is carried out, in particular, to increase security. Government forces used to build up its artisanal methods in the course of the war, fixing additional sandbags on tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers and even self-propelled artillery and anti-aircraft installations, welding various elements, including the anti-cumulative “bed” grids so popular with the Ukrainian military.

At present, the additional booking has ceased to be chaotic and has moved into the category of centralized work, when standard protective elements are installed on the military equipment. But the initiative fighters of government units often self-defend their tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers and self-propelled guns so that they turn them into true works of art.

The technical support system created with the help of Russian military specialists is not always effective, although the situation with damaged and evacuated vehicles is improving. A common problem remains weak technical literacy of personnel, especially former militias, who, like before the war, do not always want to engage in difficult and sometimes tedious work.

The complexity of the tasks facing the military specialists is difficult to overestimate - this is the restoration of equipment and the retraining of the wards to new types of weapons and military equipment. It is a pity that on the background of large-scale battles such work is often virtually invisible. But without it, victory in the ongoing civil war is unattainable.
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  1. 31rus
    31rus 22 February 2016 05: 56 New
    25
    Dear, yes, everything is clear, quickly from an untrained "herd" to make a combat-ready army, the task is not easy, to teach to fight, and not just to fight, but to win, it will not be long before we learn about the quiet officers, people and the price we paid for all the successes
    1. Sensatus
      Sensatus 22 February 2016 08: 09 New
      102
      Thanks to the author for a good article. The real state of affairs was explained calmly, competently, without hatred. Now it is a rarity.
      1. creak
        creak 22 February 2016 10: 20 New
        48
        Quote: Sensatus
        Thanks to the author for a good article. The real state of affairs was explained calmly, competently, without hatred. Now it's rare


        Namely, a competent balanced analysis without distortions and inappropriate pathos is now really rare ...
        The fact that the author wrote about the state of the Syrian Armed Forces is also characteristic of a number of other countries in the Middle East, but now you will not envy our advisers in Syria ...
        Yes, this work has never, with rare exceptions, been especially easy, often it is simply ungrateful, I know this from my own experience in the service in this region.
        One can only wish them colossal patience, perseverance and good luck - for, as the eastern wisdom says, "A loser and a dog will bite on a camel ...".
        In this regard, I recall the aphorism of one wise soldier who said to the recruits: "I am an alchemist - from such green shit as you, I forge steel bayonets."
        Advisors have similar tasks ...
        1. Wasiliy1985
          Wasiliy1985 23 February 2016 14: 16 New
          +3
          About the alchemist - a good saying!
        2. OlegLex
          OlegLex 24 February 2016 16: 14 New
          +1
          I remember our major, com of the regiment, as he said only he spoke a magician and not an alchemist
      2. Talgat
        Talgat 22 February 2016 21: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: Sensatus
        Thanks to the author for a good article. Calmly, competently

        Yes, I agree

        It would be nice to present the whole picture - to explore the role of the Iranian unit and Hezbollah - we all know that they are fighting along with the Syrians - but a lot of them or not enough, their role. weapons and so on is incomprehensible. Of course, it’s difficult to single out information from numerous articles and news - but if someone did it would be interesting and informative.
      3. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 23 February 2016 01: 29 New
        +1
        drinks all the way .....
      4. gavrosh.ru
        gavrosh.ru 24 February 2016 02: 16 New
        +3
        now generally a rarity of competence. What will happen tomorrow ?
    2. Sweles
      Sweles 22 February 2016 08: 29 New
      +7
      thoroughly told when the Turks will enter their army have to fight with professionals, so only a thorough knowledge of technology is what will lead the Syrians to victory ...
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 22 February 2016 08: 58 New
        -7
        when the Turks will introduce their army

        Unfortunately, then the Syrians will opa.Stopudovo. sadBut they will not introduce, I think.
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 22 February 2016 10: 03 New
          +4
          Quote: Yarik
          when the Turks will introduce their army

          Unfortunately, then the Syrians will opa.Stopudovo.

          then they would add the same oops to Iran, and Russia will run with its "tail" between its legs negative
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 22 February 2016 10: 18 New
            +7
            It was necessary to intervene in the situation three years earlier. The problem would be less, now it will be a long time. But you still have to fight with Turkey (if the home-grown liberal liberal parasites do not intervene, then you really have to leave ..) They will hand over anyone, at least mother mother ..
          2. tolian
            tolian 22 February 2016 12: 38 New
            17
            Did Russia run? "I am dying but not giving up" remains in my memory, but the running Russia - well, I can’t remember. And under the Tatars, and under the pshek, and under Napoleon, and under Hitler.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 22 February 2016 15: 58 New
              +3
              Quote: tolian
              And with the Tatars, and with the psheks, and with Napoleon, and with Hitler.

              how did the first Chechen ended up forgotten?
              just the topic.
              Quote: dmi.pris
              (if the home-grown parasites-liberals of the government do not intervene, then they really have to leave ..) They will hand over anyone, even their mother ..
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 23 February 2016 12: 18 New
                +6
                The first Chechen ended in political betrayal.
            2. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 22 February 2016 16: 16 New
              +1
              Anything happened, especially when the government gave slack, I will not remind you of the Russian-Japanese, and the death of two armies in Prussia in 1914, and the war of 1995-96.
              1. Conrad
                Conrad 23 February 2016 07: 34 New
                +4
                Quote: dmi.pris
                ... and the death of two armies in Prussia 1914 ...

                I would like to know more! Well, the first is the 2nd Army under the command of Samsonov, and the second is which?
                1. andj61
                  andj61 23 February 2016 08: 05 New
                  0
                  Quote: Conrad
                  Quote: dmi.pris
                  ... and the death of two armies in Prussia 1914 ...

                  I would like to know more! Well, the first is the 2nd Army under the command of Samsonov, and the second is which?

                  The 1st Army of the Northwest Front under the command of P. Rennenkampf and the 2nd Army of the same front under the command of A. Samsonov.
                2. dmi.pris
                  dmi.pris 23 February 2016 08: 43 New
                  +1
                  At one time, Samsonov’s army was blamed for the commander of the 1st Army, Rennenkampf. He allegedly held a grudge against Samsonov, they had a verbal skirmish on the platform of the station in Vladivostok during the Russo-Japanese War. put himself and Samsonov in a hopeless situation.
                  1. Wasiliy1985
                    Wasiliy1985 24 February 2016 16: 46 New
                    +1
                    Actually, Rennenkampf received a cabbage soup from Samsonov in Vladivostok for treacherous actions during the Russo-Japanese War. He continued these actions in the First World War, and when the opportunity presented itself to annoy his abuser, he did not spare either his army or Samsonov's army. He himself, the bastard, survived. That's just, according to Valentin Savvich Pikul, the Bolsheviks asked him a little later for everything - including Samsonov's army, this case was considered a separate paragraph in his biography. The result is fair - 'at the expense'. With which I completely agree.
                    1. andrew42
                      andrew42 24 February 2016 18: 20 New
                      +1
                      Cliché, cliché .. When will we stop repeating "beautiful" fairy tales? There was already a competent article on the VO on the 1st / 2nd armies in Prussia and on Samsonov-Rennenkampf. The Pikulev myth, of course, was not 100% crowned, but rather NO than YES: firstly, Samsonov and Rennenkampf did not directly command neighboring units in the Russo-Japanese one. Secondly, they have already analyzed and proved that the resource of the offensive at Rennenkampf tended to zero. In the end, the scourge of Samsonov's 2nd Army was supplies, not the "betrayal" of 1st Army. What did they want from the 2 armies without logistical support, but in the conditions of the transfer of German corps from the western front? Despite the feat of the Russian troops (again, in the "allies" box), despite the very unexpectedness of the throw by 2 armies into East Prussia, the Germans were right already "at medium distance": the Russian "steam roller" was of course unexpectedly quickly lowered down the hill, but then he got up. Miracles do not happen, especially if the enemy (the Germans) does not make fatal mistakes. As they say, you can't break a butt with a whip.
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            3. 97110
              97110 24 February 2016 17: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: tolian
              but running Russia - I don’t remember anything

              And the Germans in Rostov in 1918 and in Stalingrad in 1942 went out for a walk. Good show-off pounding, Russia REALLY fought, and against everyone, including the steam of its own indestructible army thief and drunkenness. And how did Barclay and Kutuzov break away from Napoleon with heroic rearguard battles? And in 1805, and in 1807. And, especially, in 1812. Or, in your opinion, heroically on the Niemen, Napoleon was met and fought to death. Right up to Maloyaroslavets. It seems that everyone agrees that the German infantry is a passion that is persevering and not driven out of the trenches. I literally do not remember what words the German command used to complain about the panic in their units that took place in the East Prussian operation in 1914. Look, it will be useful for you to increase your level of military history knowledge. Therefore: "Never say never."
          3. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 22 February 2016 19: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: Dryuya2
            Quote: Yarik
            when the Turks will introduce their army

            Unfortunately, then the Syrians will opa.Stopudovo.

            then they would add the same oops to Iran, and Russia will run with its tail between its legs negative


            At the expense of Iran, I would not be deceived. They have their own interests, which after some time will diverge with the interests of Russia.

            And:
            "23 / I-46.

            Sucks with Iran. Shah demands to withdraw troops. The question was posed at the UN, today Koba had Americans, stings. In February, the Iranian prime minister should come to negotiate. You can exchange the withdrawal of troops for joint work on oil. Here America and England will reap them. A common oil work would help us. But this is Iran. Everything is corrupt, I know that. Koba too. America will give them more. Even if we pay the sheikhs in gold, they will still sell. And the people are very dark. It will not work to keep Iran. And they don’t like us there. Koba Griboedova remembered. And what, at least for a long time, but also true.

            X ... new business with Turkey. The Americans are taking the place of the Germans. It has always been smeared with honey in the Caucasus. "
        2. Blondy
          Blondy 22 February 2016 10: 55 New
          14
          Well, immediately and oops. Of course, the Turkish military looks like a kind of kings, or roosters, as it should be in the east. But what are they like in battle. Still, to create an appearance in peacetime and to fight are very different things. As an example, you can remember the Italians of the Second World War: a magnificent navy, strong ground forces. But how the warriors were not very good. Well, the Syrians have already felt the hard way what it means to fight. As they say, "money cannot buy experience" and "for one beaten two unbeaten give." And with the technology too: advanced - or not very, only it becomes clear if you know how to use it, and so - does it really matter what to smear from, from AK 47 or AK 12, and to hit - the effect is the same.
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 22 February 2016 11: 46 New
            +6
            It’s just that the forces are not comparable .. The Syrians will have to wage war on three fronts, it’s not about which Turks are kings, but how much the Syrians have strong eggs .. But here we have the move ..
        3. Archon
          Archon 22 February 2016 17: 37 New
          +4
          theoretically, the Syriacs could have built many good fortifications and well worn out the Turkish army. But the course of events will most likely be different.
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        4. cosmos111
          cosmos111 23 February 2016 11: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Yarik
          when the Turks will introduce their army

          will not be introduced, ours until the United States orders ...

          ours with MLRS "Grad ...

        5. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 23 February 2016 22: 01 New
          +2
          And this is unlikely !!! This is troublesome ...
    3. Omelchuk
      Omelchuk 22 February 2016 12: 49 New
      -44 qualifying.
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, yes, everything is clear, quickly from an untrained "herd" to make a combat-ready army, the task is not easy, to teach to fight, and not just to fight, but to win, it will not be long before we learn about the quiet officers, people and the price we paid for all the successes

      1. Vadim42
        Vadim42 22 February 2016 14: 00 New
        +7
        Dumb cartoon, degraded by the author. Specific stupidity.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 22 February 2016 16: 20 New
          +2
          Have you thought of watching this? I didn’t even write anything to him. I’m writing, he will receive a grant for this ..
          Quote: Vadim42
          Dumb cartoon, degraded by the author. Specific stupidity.
          1. the villain
            the villain 22 February 2016 19: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: dmi.pris
            Have you thought of watching this?

            Alas, unfortunately, I also thought of sad ... This dullness and mediocrity left this unpleasant sensation of feces adhering to the sole of the shoe hi
            1. the villain
              the villain 23 February 2016 00: 01 New
              +1
              Yes, and do not put small things neither pluses nor minuses, do not feed the troll hi
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 23 February 2016 00: 20 New
                +2
                Yes, he already hesitated with these cartoons. And then there’s more news on the box about Syria ...
        2. Omelchuk
          Omelchuk 22 February 2016 20: 27 New
          -15 qualifying.
          Quote: Vadim42
          Dumb cartoon, degraded by the author. Specific stupidity.

      2. Foxmara
        Foxmara 22 February 2016 17: 39 New
        +5
        Envy is a bad thing. You seem to have fled from the ATO to Czechoslovakia on time? And what - there is no other income there or is it yours seething?
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      4. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 23 February 2016 04: 34 New
        0
        Well, you know, there are some excellent resorts in the Czech Republic, Dostoevsky recommended it!
    4. Omelchuk
      Omelchuk 22 February 2016 21: 22 New
      -17 qualifying.
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, yes, everything is clear, quickly from an untrained "herd" to make a combat-ready army, the task is not easy, to teach to fight, and not just to fight, but to win, it will not be long before we learn about the quiet officers, people and the price we paid for all the successes

      1. sandrmur76
        sandrmur76 22 February 2016 22: 44 New
        +2
        (Omelchug) who smoked? Does it look like in the Czech Republic? Anything is shown and you are not new. But it’s better not to spread the nonsense and go to the doctor
        1. Michael67
          Michael67 22 February 2016 23: 31 New
          +5
          Omelchukh is a vivid example of a modern mutant. One of two things: 1. Receives money for this diarrhea (moral mutation); 2. Believes in this diarrhea (brain mutation). And in that and in another case - the clinic. It is treated by surgical intervention.
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  2. Leprekon
    Leprekon 22 February 2016 06: 38 New
    +7
    Time! It is always lacking where everything needs to be started almost from the very beginning.
    Honor and glory to our specialists and those who carried out the "Syrian convoys", and the experience gained is priceless!
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 22 February 2016 06: 50 New
      11
      recent video shows the coherence of infantry tanks and the highest professionalism, pilots and air gunners VSK ...
      the west of Aleppo.
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      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 22 February 2016 10: 48 New
        12
        Quote: cosmos111
        recent video shows the coherence of infantry tanks and the highest professionalism, pilots and air gunners VSK ... west of Aleppo.

        And in the subject ....
        It looks like the "birdhouses" are working.

        Many laughed for a long time at these "birdhouses", they say stupid crap, only detects and then every other time ...
        But there are more and more videos on the network where the TOU on approaching the target changes its direction abruptly and goes either to the sky or to the earth.
    2. cap
      cap 22 February 2016 06: 51 New
      17
      Quote: Leprechaun
      Time! It is always lacking where everything needs to be started almost from the very beginning.
      Honor and glory to our specialists and those who carried out the "Syrian convoys", and the experience gained is priceless!


      Our experience is from OSOVIAHIM to DOSAAF.
      The rake must be removed from its road. The revival of the TRP is only the first step.
      This is my personal opinion. To the author +.
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 22 February 2016 07: 33 New
        10
        from the moment the VSK began operations, in Syria, the SAA, in the main areas, began to fight, in a new way (or rather, Soviet)

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        2. creak
          creak 22 February 2016 12: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: cosmos111
          in Syria, the SAA, in the main areas, began to fight, in a new way (or rather, Soviet


          What is it like? Neither in modern charters, nor in other manuals such a definition is found ...
          The troops are fighting either competently, using all modern methods of warfare or the old fashioned way, without taking into account modern realities with corresponding results - which we observed until recently in Syria.
          Although with our help and with the influence of our military school, the war in Syria is Syrian - taking into account the very difficult local realities and the characteristics of the theater of war - so the local mentality can not be radically changed in its own way, there is no need to build illusions about this. ..
          There have already been such attempts at one time - you have to be realistic ...
  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 22 February 2016 06: 42 New
    16
    For a long time there were no such articles. The author is a huge plus and thanks.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 22 February 2016 07: 41 New
      15
      in Salma ...


      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 22 February 2016 07: 51 New
        +7
        more pictures from Salma ....
        BTR-82 ...

      2. teacher
        teacher 22 February 2016 09: 42 New
        0
        Quote: cosmos111
        rotivnik antitank weapons. Elements of the Kontakt-5 dynamic defense system mounted on the T-90, in combination with the thickness and shape of the armor, make it more effective than the T-72B3 to protect the tower from damage from hand grenades

        you sleep for photos from the SBUShny infapalm, not horseradish PR freaks
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 22 February 2016 10: 38 New
          +8
          Quote: hoca
          you sleep for photos from the SBUShny infapalm, not horseradish PR freaks

          about "infoapalm" I agree.
          but about the photo, if it appeared, it means NECESSARY!
          https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/701494389630177280
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 22 February 2016 11: 16 New
            +5
            Quote: Dryuya2
            but about the photo, if it appeared, it means NECESSARY!

            Old, it’s hard to find ... especially since no one, no one does not PR ....

            photo of the RUSSIAN SOLDIER, that out of order ...
            rewarding the Syrians, in the first photo "Tiger" ...


      3. Horst78
        Horst78 23 February 2016 12: 02 New
        +1
        Green men however laughing
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  5. Delink
    Delink 22 February 2016 06: 53 New
    +5
    I wonder how much more time will it take for our specialists to make less than any specialists from the Syrians for repairing military equipment, command and control of military units, etc.? Century, two?
    1. 34 region
      34 region 22 February 2016 08: 52 New
      +3
      Delink! 06.53. How long will it take for our specialists? Parallels can be drawn between Syria and Russia. If tomorrow is war? We will have the same problems as theirs. Our only population is more. But given the area of ​​the country, it may reach a density of 1 square kilometer less. If we take technical literacy, then we think they are not far from them. The desire not to go far from home? We seem to have many serving in their region. Therefore, the war in Syria is a good lesson to our leadership. Given the small population of Syria, about 20 million, the war cannot go on forever. The population simply will not be able to keep up with the decline. In the event of a war with Russia, no one will supply us with weapons and provisions.
      1. Art
        Art 22 February 2016 13: 34 New
        +4
        I do not agree with you. In technical literacy, I think we are superior to the Syrians, I myself during the service did not only service the BMP-2 but also repair it in the flesh to the electrical part (they were training company in the battalion)
      2. max702
        max702 22 February 2016 13: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: Region 34
        If we take technical literacy, then we think they are not far from them.

        Here you are a little bent, I thought so too that the current generation of managers is not capable of anything, so, having talked with immigrants from TECH territories, I found out our geniuses almost without exception .. Alas, that contingent is something with something .. Our laziness and they’re stupid until it impregnates, but as soon as immediately, but those comrades don’t even get it from where ..
        1. akims
          akims 22 February 2016 21: 21 New
          +5
          I often communicate with the Syrians - at work. So:
          - They are very different. There are Christians - these are much smarter and more intelligent (I don't want to offend anyone - but a fact!). By the way, the Syrians - Muslims they consult and generally respect. They all have a specific attitude to the Africans, to put it mildly. Why? Can't explain. One "black brother" was almost drowned in the toilet - I had to tell you that this is not accepted here! But in general, the Syrians are nothing - the ceiling of their neighbors.
      3. Felix
        Felix 23 February 2016 08: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: 34 region
        If we take technical literacy, then we think they are not far from them.


        You shouldn’t be so. Until now, a huge number of men are independently servicing and repairing their cars. And with it, not only domestic, but also foreign production. Your humble servant hi a couple of years ago, automatic transmission was capitalized on its own - since then 40 km mileage - normal flight.
        Young boys work for me in the radiocommunication and GGS brigade, subject to the availability of a mentor, electronics repair (the truth is the same, Soviet!) Is mastered in a couple of months - at the basic level, of course, you have to help in some cases, but still ..
    2. Yarik
      Yarik 22 February 2016 09: 00 New
      -3
      Century, two?

      Three four... laughing
  6. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 22 February 2016 06: 55 New
    +3
    I think when the victory comes, ours will not withdraw aviation equipment from there. Will be given to the Syrians. SAM, apparently, too.
    1. msm
      msm 23 February 2016 11: 54 New
      +2
      Our two bases will remain - one air base, the other sea.
      Quote: armored optimist
      ours will not remove aviation equipment from there
      Just because
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  7. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 22 February 2016 06: 58 New
    13
    Our instructors have a good old army principle: "If you can't - we'll teach, if you don't want to, we'll force you." Thanks to them for their service, Happy HOLIDAY!
  8. EvgNik
    EvgNik 22 February 2016 07: 17 New
    +5
    A good, solid, working story about the situation as a whole. And usually only information about victories and defeats is usually given.
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 22 February 2016 07: 24 New
    +2
    ..For all the comments I will add, success and good luck to all and our experts and CAA
  10. Korsar4
    Korsar4 22 February 2016 07: 24 New
    +1
    Good article. Repair equipment must be adjusted. But how much has been lost over the years, apparently.
  11. Balagan
    Balagan 22 February 2016 07: 38 New
    +3
    Well yes - there are problems above the roof. You can’t fight with militias beyond your own village. Hence the attitude is - the car broke down, and give it a new one.
  12. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 22 February 2016 07: 44 New
    +3
    An excellent article, the author correctly pointed out the shortcomings of the SAA. By the way, such shortcomings are observed in almost all the armies of the Middle East region.
  13. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 22 February 2016 07: 50 New
    19
    "The East is a delicate matter, Petruha!" (from). There is always the bulk of those capable of holding weapons fighting for those who win. Naturally, at first, when Assad's troops suffered losses and were defeated, the Barmaley had an influx of recruits. The situation changed and began to flow to the other side, or repainted in decent and even allied barmaley. The Kurds really remained Kurds and do not depart from their line. That's why they are Kurds, they have nowhere to go.
    In this situation, the Armed Forces, the Air Force, the Navy of the Russian Federation do not just defend the interests of Russia and its allies. Learning takes place, testing in practice of theoretical aspects. Refinement and testing of new weapons, equipment and all that a servant is supposed to have in order to mortally ward off any adversary from attempts on his homeland.
    Everything is logical! The military should fight and not make a fool of idleness and engage in household work. Thank God that there was no fuel for aviation and ammunition. It is also important for the defense industry to free the warehouses from the old in order to produce new ones. The combat method of utilizing a PSU in this form is even cheaper than the industrial one.
    Let the whole world look carefully! And then there are going skeletons going to impose the second front of the Russian Federation in the event of an attack by Turkey, they say Russia can not fight. In this case, the wretchedly wicked creatures will not know who won the conflict. There will be no war on two fronts — all their provocations will be multiplied by zero along with them — instantly.
  14. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 22 February 2016 08: 10 New
    +6
    Everything is correct. Teach, suggest, substitute a friendly shoulder, throw a ruzhbayek with payment "someday" - you are always welcome ... But the rest is the guys themselves, soldier
  15. gergi
    gergi 22 February 2016 09: 17 New
    +7
    Hard for our specialists with such a contingent. Arabs fight mainly with their tongue, throaty and vigilant. And gouging in general are phenomenal, this applies to equipment and its maintenance. Discipline is zero; every donkey thinks of himself as a sultan. This is the reason for the defeats in all wars, including Israel. I wish our soldiers patience! We can’t lose! The whole world is behind us.
  16. tchoni
    tchoni 22 February 2016 09: 18 New
    +2
    Nice to read. Good analytical review. True sources indicated are very foggy.
  17. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 22 February 2016 09: 25 New
    +4
    A competent, trained, educated soldier and sergeant-the base of any army. Remember 1941, a large number of variegated equipment, low training of command personnel, inability to correctly operate equipment, to coordinate its use gave that result. "The Franco-Prussian war was won by a German school teacher" (Otto von Bismarck).
    Today, our young people, having a record in a military ID, a signalman, artilleryman, etc., are practically not ready to be immediately used for their intended purpose. They all require at least 2-3 months to prepare. I’m not talking about those who did not serve in the army at all, but according to my estimates, they are at least half.
    For a large-scale war today, with the involvement of the human reserve, we are clearly not ready.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 22 February 2016 10: 07 New
      +2
      By profession, yes. But at least the combined arms was hammered into me firmly. At least there is no need to spend time learning how to act as part of a squad and a company, move around the battlefield, dig a trench for yourself and mask it, maintain personal weapons, correctly fit all the ammunition and other "little things" with the KMB. And you just don’t need to waste time on small arms, except for checks and, if necessary, zeroing in your own weapons.
      Thank God at least it was hammered tightly, as a proper name.
      Recall how to use the R-109 from the storerooms, enough for half an hour. Though. probably there are not many of these in warehouses.
      Well, yes, to master a modern analogue - enough for a couple of hours.
      smile
    2. Conrad
      Conrad 23 February 2016 07: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Today, our young people, having a record in a military ID card, signalman, artilleryman, etc., are practically not ready to be immediately used for their intended purpose. They all require at least 2-3 months to prepare. I’m not talking about those who did not serve in the army at all, but according to my estimates, they are at least half.

      About 2-3 months you are bent !!! The experience of Donbass shows another. When presses 2 weeks is enough with the head. This is me about the rank and file and sergeant. For officers, sometimes even 20 years of service are not enough to understand at least their role in battle!
  18. Slippery
    Slippery 22 February 2016 11: 17 New
    +8
    Quote: Ramzaj99
    Quote: cosmos111
    recent video shows the coherence of infantry tanks and the highest professionalism, pilots and air gunners VSK ... west of Aleppo.

    And in the subject ....
    It looks like the "birdhouses" are working.

    Many laughed for a long time at these "birdhouses", they say stupid crap, only detects and then every other time ...
    But there are more and more videos on the network where the TOU on approaching the target changes its direction abruptly and goes either to the sky or to the earth.

    The video does not show a "birdhouse" and the video is not from Syria.
    1. Themi30
      Themi30 22 February 2016 12: 05 New
      +1
      Yes, it’s not important for the reticent that nothing is visible on the video and it is not from Syria - the main thing is to believe. Someone this all reminds me ...
    2. TOR2
      TOR2 22 February 2016 14: 51 New
      +2
      The video shows not Syria, but a demonstration of the "Curtains" feature at one of the exhibitions. Now it's just too lazy to look for this article.
      The work of the Birdhouse in Syria can be viewed here.
      http://rusvesna.su/news/1455751463?from=mirtesen
      And the militants themselves were shooting.
  19. napalm
    napalm 22 February 2016 12: 09 New
    +4
    The article is good, but it becomes sad somehow.
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 February 2016 12: 31 New
    +2
    Yes, it was clear to any officer, even the former. And problems with the army, and problems with militias, and problems with equipment ... It is surprising that advisers begin to break through the situation in such a short time. Maybe that’s why Erdogan got hysterical and is in a hurry to start the ground? He was informed that the SAR army was gaining strength, and an easy walk did not work, and with each passing month, the wet mriya further and further went beyond the horizon.
  21. Sotnik77s
    Sotnik77s 22 February 2016 13: 13 New
    +4
    What is surprising is how Syrians themselves treat their technique like this, they broke down and left, and the Russians still bring it, but if you make another assumption, it’s bad, and we would have a different president of the country, and would say they wouldn’t bring if they were at war then, it’s just amazing that it’s really difficult to see the oil on time or what else is provided for by the service, that it’s better to run away to Geyropa and there you can sartir the sartirs, and that’s at best, because they know that they are on their land, well, HELP THEM AND ALL OUR LORD, WITH GOD'S HELP, WE WILL POWER AND THIS PERIOD OF LIFE !!!!!!!!!!
    1. hobot
      hobot 22 February 2016 16: 34 New
      +1
      They have the most important thing - love for the motherland and the will to win with our help the mountains are turned.
    2. akims
      akims 22 February 2016 21: 37 New
      +2
      Another thing is surprising: how can the Syrians themselves treat their technique so much, broke down and left

      Everything is clear here - unprecedented pressure from all sides for almost five years. There was almost no help. Almost a drape began. The losses are huge. Information war. But they held out. You did not have a question, why did Russia not intervene for so long? I think that in addition to army reform, another practically unnoticed event occurred - the refinement of the GLONASS system. And immediately, the Air Force was renamed Aerospace Forces - and away we go! And now they will remove from the territory of the Russian Federation 11 ground stations of ovsky zhps ... it will be interesting to see.
    3. not main
      not main 22 February 2016 22: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Sotnik77s
      Another thing is surprising: how can the Syrians themselves treat their technique like that, broke down and left,

      Why are you surprised? Yes, in Russia the same trend! Young people at best will open the hood and further stupor! All questions to the dealer! And this leads to the degradation of the population!
  22. mayhem
    mayhem 22 February 2016 15: 18 New
    +1
    right now they’ll fix the cars themselves, smack themselves, fill up mazolas, put their souls in and won't leave!
  23. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 22 February 2016 16: 23 New
    +6
    How everything is running in the Syrian army! However, this is inherent in all Arabs. Without strict control over them, the result is one - everything will fall apart. Therefore, Israel beats them - and one by one, and all together. Enough patience for our instructors to teach the Syrians military affairs!
  24. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 22 February 2016 19: 12 New
    +1
    I hope ours studied the "Italian LMS TURMS-T" and made conclusions?
  25. Slippery
    Slippery 22 February 2016 20: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: CERHJ
    Yes, I described above that this is a BMP-3 with a Shtora at the Kurganmash training ground. Here is a diagram with two Shtora floodlights on the sides of the tower.

    See the comment time))) By the way, this training ground is not Kurganmashevsky.
  26. Slippery
    Slippery 23 February 2016 01: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: CERHJ
    They write that there ...

    www.kurganmash.ru/machines/bmp3u/protection/shtora/ in the last video, pay attention to the cars of the "local" Kurgan residents in the frame wink .
  27. Evil 55
    Evil 55 23 February 2016 04: 11 New
    +2
    Russian specialists are the most Special and Competent specialists in the world ...
  28. saper2463
    saper2463 23 February 2016 04: 52 New
    +2
    "Not only such complex samples as anti-aircraft missile systems suffered from the technical illiteracy of operators, but also much simpler ones - tanks, towed artillery pieces, infantry fighting vehicles. According to a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense familiar with the pre-war situation, due to improper storage and the operation of artillery systems, in most of them there was a constant leak of anti-recoil fluid, the stabilizers of weapons and radio stations did not work on armored vehicles. Batteries were constantly plundered, and those that remained in stock practically did not hold a charge. The self-propelled guns, but also the commanders of units and subunits, as well as their deputies for the technical part did not monitor the oil level in the engines, the refilling was carried out at the wrong time. Despite the high dust content, the filters did not change, at best they were cleaned manually "
    Thank God we did a great job of strengthening our army, and now it’s easy for us to become a citizen in such a subordinate unit for such a situation. But in 2008, these were the realities of our army))
  29. taseka
    taseka 23 February 2016 05: 16 New
    +1
    " the Syrian military has a kind of stereotype: why feel sorry for weapons and military equipment if they still send a new one."- AWESOME !!!
  30. Conrad
    Conrad 23 February 2016 08: 00 New
    +2
    I remember when we were driving Gaddafi across the Libyan desert, our statements were like "... this will never happen to Syria because the Syrian army is the most in the BV, well, after Israel !!!"
    1. Syrdon
      Syrdon 24 February 2016 10: 40 New
      0
      the way it is, there is no Libya as a state-government and will not be likely to be, and Syria is and will be. This is a merit of the army and the normal part of the people of Syria. And the fact that inside is a mess, as I think in the East, this is the case for everyone, and now our specialists are working on fixing holes. There is no doubt that they can and know how to do this, but they have experience in the same Novorosiya.
  31. onega67
    onega67 23 February 2016 18: 46 New
    0
    DAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa! I took it and laid it out !!!!
  32. Chaos
    Chaos 23 February 2016 19: 14 New
    +1
    HOLIDAY, men !!!!!!
  33. Slippery
    Slippery 23 February 2016 20: 32 New
    0
    Quote: CERHJ
    Well, you won’t surprise us with jeeps now, but the terrain is really some kind of Arabian .. But it does not change the essence, these are testing ground conditions and the Curtain test, and has nothing to do with the "birdhouses" ..

    surprise by numbers))) the method of fastening and size))) plus the weather does not correspond to the latitudes, the color of the sand is clearly not Central Russian. This is not a test but a demonstration, the buyer has a reasonable question, when the projectors are spaced apart and they are moved backwards, the performance characteristics will not change for the worse? the answer was given))) It is bad that they can not emerge where necessary.
  34. NACC
    NACC 23 February 2016 20: 35 New
    +1
    Yes!!! The Syrian army is still the same! You won’t get enough of these warriors of equipment. But this is OUR money and considerable.
  35. Slippery
    Slippery 23 February 2016 21: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Conrad
    I remember when we were driving Gaddafi across the Libyan desert, our statements were like "... this will never happen to Syria because the Syrian army is the most in the BV, well, after Israel !!!"

    How long did Gaddafi last and how many Assad? feel the difference )))
  36. Wolka
    Wolka 24 February 2016 05: 59 New
    +1
    the author drew attention to the most typical weaknesses in the preparation of the ATS army, although they are typical of most Arab armies, and not just the ATS ...
  37. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 24 February 2016 14: 59 New
    0
    Despite the fact that many militias have several years of war, few people know how to shoot accurately, competently move on the battlefield, not to mention poor physical preparation. Volunteer commanders, mostly chosen by the fighters themselves from the most respected, in their opinion, colleagues, are often unable to make decisions correctly in a difficult situation, competently lead personnel not only in battle, but also in everyday life.
    A major problem remains the discipline of the personnel, who stood throughout the war at various checkpoints and were not willing to engage in normal combat training. Also, according to available data, the problem of ex-territoriality remains unresolved. The militias are ready to protect only their homes and do not express a desire to move to other areas.

    Hmmm ... one in one description of the problems of the Armed Forces of the DPR and LPR. All that is missing is the complaints about the tangents. smile