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Naval ships of the time of the American Civil War

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  1. Good cat
    Good cat 20 February 2016 06: 17
    +5
    Very interesting photos!
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 20 February 2016 11: 00
      +7
      I agree, it's just a pity that without signatures.
  2. venaya
    venaya 20 February 2016 06: 33
    +2
    The most legendary ship of that time "Monitor"! The name of this ship has already entered our language in the form of the words "monitoring" and even VKU "monitor". Here he is depicted in color and even in battle.
    1. kig
      kig 20 February 2016 07: 58
      +3
      In fact, the word "monitor" has many more meanings than you suggested here, and not all of them originate from the USS Monitor
      1. venaya
        venaya 20 February 2016 08: 20
        +1
        I have given only the most commonly used values ​​for simplicity. But absolutely all of them originate from the USS Monitor. I am familiar with the complete history of both this ship and previous one-gun analogs, as well as the origin of all derivatives of the word "Monitor". If you are really interested in this, then I can clarify them separately, the size of the comment is too small, detailed explanations are required here, in a whole article.
        1. aiw
          aiw 20 February 2016 10: 20
          +1
          Monitor (from lat. Monitor - reminding, warning, overseer, overseer), (c) Wiki.

          I dare to suggest that when this word came into use, where they were flattered about the existence of America, they had not even guessed. Not to mention gunpowder, artillery, steam engines, etc. baubles necessary for the construction of the USS Monitor.
          1. venaya
            venaya 20 February 2016 11: 33
            +3
            Quote: aiw
            Monitor (from lat. Monitor - reminding, warning, overseer, overseer), (c) Wiki.

            I beg you, stop using "Vika" for evidence on the VO site, for these purposes there is a specialized site "Echo Mosvy", it is there that all the Russian-speaking geeks who use all the misinformation from "Wiki" gather. Leave the VO site alone, for normal people who use specialized translators for translation from Latin and into Latin. From the Latin dictionary: "reminding, warning, overseer, overseer" - perevolitsya as - costs... If you have specific concerns about Latin dictionaries, please contact their publishers. I once managed to study in detail the history of shipping as well as the origin of some maritime terms, there was a need. Be more attentive to the choice of information sources, here we have already cited similar bloopers from "Wiki" more than once.
            1. aiw
              aiw 20 February 2016 13: 38
              0
              http://www.ruslat.info/display.php?action=view&id=14629&from=word=monitor|type=f
              ull | action = search

              adviser

              consiliarius [ii, m];
              ministrator [oris, m];
              monitor [oris, m];
              consiliorum auctor [oris, m];

              http://linguaeterna.com/vocabula/list.php?letter=monitor&submit=%CF%EE%EA%E0%E7%
              E0% F2% FC

              monitor

              monitor, oris m [moneo]
              1) one who resembles (alicujus rei Sl; m. Et praemonstrator Ter);
              2) counselor, consultant (in litigation) C: te monitore C at your advice;
              3) he who warns warns H, Col;
              4) Overseer, Overseer Col, Dig;
              5) C, PJ = nomenclator;
              6) (in worship) chanted or cantor Tert.

              You know, everyone can beg and scold Vicki. But passages like "I once managed to study in detail the history of shipping as well as the origin of some nautical terms, the need was" the proof is NOT, but rather looks like "you are all Erdogans, I alone am d'Artagnan in a white coat" ;-)
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 February 2016 06: 57
    10
    Photos, of course, are not bad, but half of the photos from the article can be thrown out, as, practically, not informative or identical. And the order of the photo series had to be a little thought out.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 20 February 2016 21: 29
      0
      This is the best illustration of Lenin's words - "Better less, but better." There would be fewer photos, but if there were captions it would be really interesting.
  4. qwert
    qwert 20 February 2016 07: 11
    +2
    photographs of armadillos ... any end of the 19 century is always interesting to see, especially Russians and French. Unusual designs. The beginning of the way.
  5. Mera joota
    Mera joota 20 February 2016 07: 23
    +7
    Monitor rear view of the tower (after the battle with Virginia). I imagine what was happening inside the tower ...
    1. Riv
      Riv 20 February 2016 09: 48
      +2
      Nothing special was going on. One wounded. Temporary loss of vision due to the release of powder gases. And the fact that the dents on the back side are northerners, do not be fools, turned the turret while reloading the guns.
      Tactics, however ...
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 20 February 2016 10: 18
        0
        Quote: Riv
        Tactics, however ...

        I’m talking about how each hit core beat the ears of all the inhabitants of the tower. There, of course, the armor is thick, but the roar came and it was still terrible ...
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 20 February 2016 11: 22
          +1
          There, it’s not thick armor, but round cores, which generally poorly penetrated the armor, so they steered railway rails on a thick wooden lining.
          1. Riv
            Riv 20 February 2016 13: 27
            +2
            It is known that the captain of "Monitor" before the battle ordered to reduce the powder charges of the cannons. He feared that the recoil would overturn the battleship. Theoretically, with a full charge, its nuclei could pierce Virginia.
            On the other hand, they did not manage to load new conical shells on the Virginia before leaving, which (again in theory) could penetrate the Monitor's tower.
        2. Denimax
          Denimax 20 February 2016 14: 00
          0
          A thick iron plate is unlikely to ring. Most likely a thud will be heard.
          1. 97110
            97110 20 February 2016 20: 10
            0
            Quote: Denimax
            Thick iron plate

            A tower is more like a bell than a slab. Did you hear the sound of the bell? So it's outside ...
    2. PKK
      PKK 20 February 2016 19: 33
      0
      I recall Monitor in the last battle suffered, it began to flood. How could he survive in excitement?
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 20 February 2016 07: 47
    +6
    Photos class! good
    But no signatures, no comments about what it is, where it is, when, etc.
    Okay, those who really understand something will figure it out, and then not everything ... And the rest? To sit and see with an open mouth without a clue about an event or fact ??
    For the photo plus, for the rest minus - because nothing hi
    1. avt
      avt 20 February 2016 11: 05
      +8
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Photos class!

      good
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Okay, those who really understand something will figure it out, and then not everything ... And the rest?

      The rest will read an article by Oleg Kaptsov about the benefits of armored ships and see in photos the future of naval construction! laughing Two new laws of nature from Oleg about ships and planes really pushed into me - I can’t leave the third day! laughing
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 20 February 2016 14: 14
        +2
        Quote: avt
        The rest will read an article by Oleg Kaptsov about the benefits of armored ships and see in photos the future of naval construction! Two new laws of nature from Oleg about ships and planes really pushed into me - I can’t leave the third day!

        Yeah ... At the expense of Kaptsov’s articles, that's for sure ...
        But still, the very first checkers in the confrontation of armor and shell, captured in the photo - is history. And I hope that the comrades who read and idolize Kaptsov have the brains not to compare the first attempts to book ships to oppose the cores with what is presented to the Kaptsov today as a panacea for anti-ship missiles lol All the same, there is some sequence:
        core rails, ordinary thick iron
        steel shell
        shell with perversions (Makarovka caps) - armor with perversions (hardening, different methods of melting, additives, remote booking, etc.)
        Missile defense systems winked
        So the rest may not be all, like Oleg Kaptsov wink drinkswho still believes in logic a little hi
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 20 February 2016 11: 23
      +3
      Well, minus, of course, in vain, after all, work. But I would like signatures.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 20 February 2016 08: 03
    +3
    The photos are good .. interesting .. Thank you, but somehow laid out according to the principle: instead of the line, just guess the point, they say itself ... You, they say, literate people will figure out what's what ..
  8. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 20 February 2016 09: 09
    +3
    Even then, the Americans-stealth technology))). Zumvolt accidentally not a relative of these ships?))))
  9. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 20 February 2016 10: 05
    +2
    It’s a pity that there are no signatures for the photo, it is not clear where the southerners and where the northerners. And what kind of ship is like a submarine, but with pipes?
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 20 February 2016 11: 25
      +1
      There, in my opinion, two photos of a real submarine - pedal. American turtle. And if with pipes - then these are casemate battleships. The most prominent representative is "Virginia" of the southerners. And if with a tower - then the monitors of the northerners :), they have almost no boards at all.
  10. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 20 February 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Well, there are a lot of photographs from that war, for example, you can find a little here: http: //mil-history.livejournal.com/1070273.html
    http://photochronograph.ru/2012/02/14/grazhdanskaya-vojna-v-ssha/
    http://foto-history.livejournal.com/2576206.html
    Here is a site in Russian where there is some information about this war http://wild-west3.my1.ru/photo/15-0-1884
    There are a great many American sites on this subject. Here are the most famous: http://www.shorpy.com/
    http://www.civilwar.com/index.php/weapons/union-ships/146926-katahdin-1862-1865-

    .html
    By the way, the first of these American sites contains generally many historical photographs of US history of all time.
  11. bbss
    bbss 20 February 2016 11: 42
    +1
    Photos are good, but without the text they lose a lot. This was a turning point in military shipbuilding.
  12. Denimax
    Denimax 20 February 2016 12: 27
    +2
    Quote: Grigorievich
    And what kind of ship is like a submarine, but with pipes?

    I mean David? - this is not a submarine, it’s more a semi-submarine boat, it was built in a series and was armed with a pole mine.
  13. IT-Prof
    IT-Prof 20 February 2016 12: 37
    +1
    Awesome pictures, I've never come across before. Signatures, of course not enough .. it seems some northerners in the pictures. At the expense of the casemate armadillos and southerners ... a flag is visible on the 4th photo.
  14. SIT
    SIT 20 February 2016 12: 52
    +2
    Thanks to the author for the selection! To my shame, I just didn’t know that there were such pictures. I thought that these are illustrations from books that are at the end of the collection, that's all there is. One of the pictures was called the battle of Monitor and Merrimack. In the pictures, people who have not been around for a long time and who will not tell anything about that time, but the small details of their life in the then fleet are immersed in the atmosphere of that time.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 20 February 2016 21: 32
      0
      Today they were found and even established who was who by genetic examination!
  15. Taoist
    Taoist 20 February 2016 13: 42
    +2
    It is a pity the photo without signatures ... Many can guess, but I would like to know more.

    In general, an interesting association was born watching these semi-self-made monsters ... If you put a selection of photos of the times of the civil war in Russia - it will be very similar - except that the guns are a bit more modern ...
  16. Denimax
    Denimax 20 February 2016 14: 18
    +1
    Looking at the Monitor for some reason, I want to drop a boarding team on it.)
  17. Understanding
    Understanding 20 February 2016 19: 34
    0
    Quote: avt
    two new laws of nature from Oleg about ships and planes

    Can I refer?
  18. pzkrfv4
    pzkrfv4 21 February 2016 14: 07
    0
    There were irons!