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In the DPR, traditionally recalled the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic

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Last week, a memorable date was celebrated in the Donetsk People’s Republic, a very important for Donbass - the 98 anniversary of the creation of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic (DKR). Many active participants in the Russian Spring consider DKR to be the forerunners of the current People's Republics. The most implacable fighters against the forced Ukrainization of Donbass, long before the events of 2014, celebrated this date, brought flowers to the monument to Fyodor Sergeyev (Artem), who was the leader of the CDD.

The Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic was declared 12 in February (or, if we take into account the old style, 30 in January) 1918 of the year. This happened at the 4-th Congress of the Soviets of the Donetsk and Krivoy Rog Basins, which took place in Kharkov. Initially it was assumed that the DKR will become an autonomy within the RSFSR.

The flag of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic is the predecessor of the very flag under which the Donetsk People's Republic is fighting today with the Kiev junta. True, now this tricolor is upside down, but the colors remain the same. Black color means coal that is rich in the land of Donbass. Blue is the color of rivers and the Sea of ​​Azov. Red color symbolizes blood shed in battles.

The principle on which the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic was created was as follows: the territories were united not on the basis of nationality, but with the aim of a closer relationship between coal and metallurgical enterprises. It was even supposed that the Republic could become an example of a socialist economy. She stretched from Kherson to the Rostov region. Its capital was originally proclaimed Kharkov. And, perhaps, the Republic would have taken place, would have entered according to the original plan in the RSFSR, and today there would not be all these bloody events ... But the war prevented it.

From the very beginning of the DKR existence thunderstorms hung over it. A few days after its proclamation, the German-Austrian troops, at the invitation of the then “independent Ukraine”, launched an offensive on the territory where Soviet power was established.

18 March 1918. The invaders invaded the newly created Republic. The forces were unequal, the Reds were forced to retreat. And to strengthen the defense at the All-Ukrainian Congress of Soviets, which took place on March 19, it was decided to include the DKR in the Ukrainian Soviet Republic.

In connection with the situation at the front, the capital of the DKR had to be moved to Lugansk. But already in May 1918, the entire territory of the Republic was occupied.

In November of the same year, after admitting defeat in the First World War, Austro-German troops began to liberate previously captured territories.

But this did not save the Republic. In the Soviet leadership about her there were differences. In the end, the point of view, according to which these industrial areas must be incorporated into Soviet Ukraine, triumphed. Supporters of such a decision argued that it was necessary to “dilute” the amorphous peasant masses in Ukraine by the proletariat in order to strengthen Soviet power. And in February 1919, the very concept of DKR disappeared.

But after almost a century the memory of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic is preserved. Today in the Donbass they think that it would be nice to return to the very idea. And every year on the anniversary of the proclamation of the DKR people come to the monument to its founder and lay flowers.

And the founder was none other than the famous Bolshevik revolutionary Fyodor Sergeyev, who bore the party pseudonym Artem.

The future revolutionary was born in March 1883, in the village of Glebovo, Kursk Province, in the family of a simple peasant. Then his family moved to Yekaterinoslav (now Dnepropetrovsk), graduated from a real school. He continued his studies at the Imperial Moscow Technical School (today - the famous Baumanka). There, in Moscow, I became interested in revolutionary ideas and joined the RSDLP.

After a rebellious youth organized a demonstration of students in 1902, he spent six months in prison. He was expelled from school with a "wolf ticket." That is, he could no longer study in Russia. The desire to continue to learn, however, the young man had, and he went to Paris. But already in 1903, he returned to his homeland in order to continue his revolutionary activities in the Yekaterinoslav province, as well as in Yuzovka.

The rest of his life, like the life of other revolutionaries, is a series of dangerous adventures. Agitation of workers, strikes, arrests, conspiracy, a failed uprising in Kharkov, again arrests. In 1909, he was sentenced to lifelong exile and sent to Siberia. "Artem" ran. Then fate brought him to distant Australia, where he became one of the leaders of the Association of Russian Immigrants. There he organized English language courses for immigrants, organized a Marxist circle, led trade union activities. He published the newspaper "Echo of Australia". There he also had to serve time in prison for political convictions.

After the February Revolution, which overthrew the monarchy, the revolutionary returned to his homeland. He actively pursued the idea of ​​autonomy of Donbass, until he founded the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic. However, it was not destined to survive his brainchild ...

Artem’s life, as we see, was extremely rich, eventful. Unfortunately, she was short-lived. In 1921, he died during the test of the aerial wagon. Together with him, the tragic fate befell five more people, among whom are two German communists. The son of Artyom, who was taken up by Joseph Stalin, believed that the catastrophe was rigged by the Trotskyists.



The memory of this man is especially honored in the Donbas. In Donetsk, his name (more precisely, the party callsign - Artem) is named the main street. But the city of Artyomovsk, which is named after him and where the famous Artemovskoe champagne is made, unfortunately, is currently under the occupation of Ukrohunta. The other day the occupation authorities renamed it Bakhmut. And the monument to Artem in the city was barbarously demolished.

This is not the only monument to the outstanding Soviet political figure who suffered at the hands of Ukrohunta. The monument in Slavyansk was also destroyed. In Svyatogorsk - one of the most beautiful places of Donbass, which today is also under the authority of neo-fascists - the monument is still standing. It is made by the famous sculptor I. Kavaleridze and entered into the State Register of the National Cultural Heritage of Ukraine. But this monument is now in danger.

However, in Donetsk, the sculpture of a revolutionary is treated with respect. And this year, in honor of the 98 anniversary of the founding of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic, two events took place at once.

On February 9, a group of public figures led by Andrey Purgin laid flowers at the monument to Artem.







And February 12 held a big solemn rally at the same place, in which several thousand people took part, mostly young people.







Addressing the crowd, Head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, said: “Exactly 98 years ago, our ancestors tried to make this land happy. WITH weapons in their hands they defended freedom, equality and justice. In 2014, we did the same thing. We are defending our country with arms and we want to make it happy ... We are building a new history, we are already - a new story. "





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Last week, the DPR remembered another important date related to Soviet history. This time - from the late Soviet.

15 February 1989 was the year of the withdrawal of USSR troops from Afghanistan. I will not now give any assessment of the Afghan war, only one thing is clear - those who fought there, performed their international duty with honor. And many were forced to leave the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan with tears in their eyes - it was so painful to leave the ground, where comrades died, and did not finish the work for which all these battles were fought, all this blood, all these fights.

There are many “Afghans” living in Donetsk. In the Leninsky Komsomol Park is a monument to soldiers-internationalists. On Saturday, February 13, veterans of Afghanistan came to him with scarlet carnations. The Head of the DPR Alexander Zakharchenko also came.

“Thank you for teaching us to love the Motherland. They taught friendship, loyalty to duty, courage ... Let the Americans and the Anglo-Saxons shout that the war was wrong, aggressive. You have fulfilled your duty, ”he said, turning to the fighters who had passed through the Afghan flames.

There was also a guest from Russia - Deputy Chairman of the Russian Union of Afghan Veterans, Vladimir Koshelev. He awarded several soldiers on behalf of the Union, and also presented a medal to the Head of the DPR. However, Alexander Zakharchenko said that he could not accept it, and handed it over to one of his associates who fought in Afghanistan.

Tatyana Grishina, the widow of the DPR Hero Oleg Grishin, who fell in 2014 during the battles at Saur-Grave, spoke about her husband, who fought at one time on Afghan soil. (Let me remind you - I wrote about Oleg, when in his honor in Donetsk installed a memorial plaque).

There was also a concert part - singers Oleg Veter, Julia Teybash, Alexander Kiryukhanov performed several songs dedicated to soldiers-internationalists.







As we see, in the DPR honor and history, and exploits, and noble ideas. They read everything that the illegal power of Ukraine is crushing today.

And one more proof of this is the monument to VI Lenin restored in the shortest time after the explosion on the square named after him in Donetsk. Caring citizens bring fresh flowers to it. Performers sabotage detained by law enforcement.



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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 16 February 2016 07: 11 New
    +7
    We are defending our country with arms in hand and want to make it happy ... We are building a new story, you and I are already - a new story... Fortitude, courage, you people of Donbass ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 16 February 2016 19: 53 New
      +1
      More such mass events in the Donbass!
  2. Aleksander
    Aleksander 16 February 2016 07: 44 New
    +6
    She prostrated from Kherson to the Rostov region. Its capital was originally proclaimed Kharkov. And, perhaps, the Republic would have taken place, would have entered the RSFSR according to the original plan, and there would not have been all these bloody events today ... But the war prevented.


    No, the territory of the DKR included Kharkov, Yekaterinoslav, Yelisavetgral, Tauride provinces and the territory of the Don Army (all the left bank of the Dnieper) to the Odessa Republic (also was part of the RSFSR). I note that the choice in favor of Russia was made by the republics on their own. Therefore, Ukraine itself was represented only by Kiev region, Poltavshina, Volyn, Chernihiv and Rivne regions, and EVERYTHING.
    And it was not the war that prevented, but the good grandfather Lenind forcibly shoved the Russian republics and territories into this misunderstanding and, accordingly, was guilty of what is happening there today.
    1. elenagromova
      16 February 2016 12: 31 New
      -1
      And what is wrong? Here is http://www.s.NHMX.ua/section/newsIconCis62/subdir/full/upload/images/news/icon/dkr_
      142322514247.jpeg - just Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic from the Kherson region. And south - to Rostov. Nikolaev was then part of the Kherson province.

      Is Lenin to blame? Are the Austrians and Germans who launched the offensive not to blame? After all, it was because of them that they had to make such a decision.
      1. Captain nemo
        Captain nemo 16 February 2016 14: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: elenagromova
        Is Lenin to blame? Are the Austrians and Germans who launched the offensive not to blame? After all, it was because of them that they had to make such a decision.

        No, I do not agree with this. It was not because of the Germans that such a decision was made; Lenin did not recognize the DKR since November 1917. And the fate of the occupation of the DKR in Brest was decided not only by the UNR, but also by Russia embodying the idea - the World at all costs, without annexations and indemnities in words, and with annexations and indemnities in deeds.
        But Lenin’s guilt that the territories of New Russia are now located in Independent Ukraine, there really isn’t any.
        1. Temples
          Temples 16 February 2016 15: 22 New
          +2
          But Lenin’s guilt that the territories of New Russia are now located in Independent Ukraine, there really isn’t any.

          Kerensky, Lenin, Trotsky and all other revolutionaries ruined the country.
          Maybe you remember the Russian Empire?
          All this revolutionary pack, led by the Anglo-Saxons, tore our Motherland to shreds.
          Ghouls have cut themselves "republics".
          All these "republics" are on the blood.
          Independent. It’s ridiculous.
          All fragments of the empire are dependent.
          Some from Russia, others from the Anglo-Saxons.
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 16 February 2016 20: 01 New
        0
        Yeah. Is Lenin to blame again? Well, if he hadn't included Novorossiya in Ukraine, it would have “sailed away” from the USSR due to its Western separatism, which we are seeing now. Again, one must understand and delve into precisely that historical moment, and not from the current bell tower. Something today is some kind of assault on grinding the bones of the former leaders of Russia. Did you agree? The topic is not at all for the average mind. Something like this.
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      4. Aleksander
        Aleksander 17 February 2016 05: 19 New
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        Quote: elenagromova
        And what is wrong? Here is http://www.s.NHMX.ua/section/newsIconCis62/subdir/full/upload/images/news/icon/dkr_

        142322514247.jpeg - just Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic from the Kherson region. And south - to Rostov. Nikolaev was then part of the Kherson province.

        link doesn't work -404. I have already said that it is "not that" - you have not indicated the Yekaterinoslav province as part of the DKR.
        Quote: elenagromova
        Is Lenin to blame? But are the Austrians and Germans who launched the offensive not guilty? It’s because of them had to make such a decision.

        How is this ?! What is the logic? Then both Rostov and Crimea had to be given to the Ruin, the Germans also came there.
  3. RUSS
    RUSS 16 February 2016 09: 08 New
    +2
    In one of Purgin’s photos, it’s a pity that the man was removed, apparently for his irreconcilable policy with Kiev.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2016 12: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      In one of Purgin’s photos, it’s a pity that the man was removed, apparently for his irreconcilable policy with Kiev.

      Why are you minus? Purgin was "moved" from the Chairman of the People's Council of the DPR
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  4. curl
    curl 16 February 2016 09: 11 New
    +1
    That's how it was
  5. Leprekon
    Leprekon 16 February 2016 09: 26 New
    +1
    After the rebellious youth organized a student demonstration in 1902, he spent six months in prison. He was expelled from school with a wolf ticket. That is, he could no longer study in Russia. However, the young man had a desire to continue to study, and he left for Paris.
    And this is in the "prison of peoples", where later a revolution took place, which in fact was "inspired" for a couple of hundred years from the same Europe! And this "prison of peoples", for centuries saved "ungrateful dirty tricks" from the Western Slavs, gave statehood to the Finns, and later saved "heroically crap" in the Second World Europe. Yes, judging by the information from the Ukraine occupied by the Nazis, one suspicion of separatism can be stuck in 12 years, or you can be lost - "without the right of correspondence"!
    And the ideal of "free and democratic" Europe was not the choice of the citizens of Crimea and Donbass, but the reviving fascism in Ukraine! Forgot your story? So maybe they should be reminded every day to compare the current successes of democracy in Ukrainian with the documents of the Nuremberg trials? In Ukraine, ordinary fascism with the presence of the entire set of hateful ideology of fascism - nationalism, as a new form of national fascism, storm troopers in the form of the right sector and national battalions, focused on the methods of the OUN-UPA security service (in fact, on the Gestapo) of the SBU, endless actions against " not a national-Ukrainian spirit ".
    1. Goauld_Baal
      Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 11: 34 New
      -2
      For a crooked word addressed to Ukraine and Ukrainians, your darling FSB is bringing citizens of Donbass to criminal responsibility under Articles 280 and 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. So let your anti-Russian pack headed by Putin go to hell. What dill sharovarshchiki, that Russian oligarchs with Caucasian criminals plus Muslims with minarets and the religion of "peace" misanthropic Islam - one field of berries.
      1. Hon
        Hon 16 February 2016 13: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Goauld_Baal
        For a crooked word addressed to Ukraine and Ukrainians, your darling FSB is bringing citizens of Donbass to criminal responsibility under Articles 280 and 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. So let your anti-Russian pack headed by Putin go to hell. What dill sharovarshchiki, that Russian oligarchs with Caucasian criminals plus Muslims with minarets and the religion of "peace" misanthropic Islam - one field of berries.

        we generally have a multinational and multi-professional state, it has been formed as such for a long time, and the articles that you indicated are called upon to protect the integrity of our state.
        1. Goauld_Baal
          Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 13: 51 New
          -7
          Personally, I do not need such a state. And I definitely won’t protect him. When they will destroy your non-Russian federation of bloodsuckers-non-Russian oligarchs, I will watch with interest on TV. Or listen to the radio. Unless of course all this electronic junk will work. But it seems to me that your glorious FSB will eliminate Russia without war. How the KGB eliminated the USSR without firing a shot.
          1. Hon
            Hon 16 February 2016 14: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: Goauld_Baal
            Personally, I do not need such a state. And I definitely won’t protect him.

            Has anyone asked you about this? somehow we ourselves will figure out what to do and how to live.
            1. Goauld_Baal
              Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 14: 19 New
              -4
              Quote: Hon
              Quote: Goauld_Baal

              somehow we ourselves will figure out what to do and how to live.
              And whom do you mean by the word - "WE" Who are "we"? Is it the FSB? Are they adherents of the most "peaceful" religion - Islam? Are these oligarchs robbers?
              1. Hon
                Hon 16 February 2016 14: 26 New
                +2
                Quote: Goauld_Baal
                And who do you mean by the word "WE" Who are "we"? Is it the FSB? Are these adherents of the most "peaceful" religion - Islam? Are these oligarchs robbers?

                we are citizens of Russia, of different religions and nationalities. Not only Russians live in Russia, and everyone has a different faith. We do not have everything peacefully with each other, and therefore there are laws that prevent incitement to hatred and extremism.
                1. Goauld_Baal
                  Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 14: 35 New
                  -3
                  Well, thank God I'm not a citizen of your wonderful country - the prison of the Russian people. Please tell me a naive (or simply lying) person - where is the Russian republic within the Russian Federation? Who protects the rights and interests of the Russian nation? Who represents her on the federation council? Where are the borders of the Russian national apartment? I personally do not need non-Russian tenants in a Russian apartment.
                  True, once in history there was a period when the origin and nationality of a citizen did not matter — this was the time of the USSR under Comrade. Stalin. But unfortunately this time has passed. So it's time to determine where the Russian apartment is.
                  1. Hon
                    Hon 16 February 2016 14: 52 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    Well, thank God I'm not a citizen of your wonderful country - the prison of the Russian people. Please tell me a naive (or simply lying) person - where is the Russian republic within the Russian Federation? Who protects the rights and interests of the Russian nation? Who represents her on the federation council? Where are the borders of the Russian national apartment? I personally do not need non-Russian tenants in a Russian apartment.
                    True, once in history there was a period when the origin and nationality of a citizen did not matter — this was the time of the USSR under Comrade. Stalin. But unfortunately this time has passed. So it's time to determine where the Russian apartment is.

                    Nobody creeps into your apartment, you yourself determine where the Russian apartment is and where it is non-Russian.
                    For example, in Dagestan, hundreds of nationalities, and somehow you can’t determine the Avar apartment, Lezghin or Dargin. In Tatarstan, 40% of the population is Russian, and the Tatars are the second largest people in the Russian Federation, whether you like it or not, but it happened.
                    And you should not climb into a strange monastery with your own charter.
                    1. Heimdall47
                      Heimdall47 16 February 2016 15: 21 New
                      0
                      Dagestan has hundreds of nationalities, and somehow it will not be possible to determine the Avar apartment, Lezghin or Dargin. In Tatarstan, 40% of the population are Russian, and the Tatars are the second most numerous people in the Russian Federation

                      These hundreds of nationalities brought the Russian people into possession with an armed hand, and no one then asked for their special consent.
                      So, to be consistent to the end - what do we care about their apartments? Let them live where they want and as they want, if only the titular nation does not interfere.
                  2. Captain nemo
                    Captain nemo 16 February 2016 15: 10 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    Please tell me a naive (or simply lying) person - where is the Russian republic within the Russian Federation?

                    By de jure, in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, there really is no such Republic, but if you isolate all other Autonomous entities such as Altai, Mordovia, Yakutia, etc., then you will have what you called the Russian Republic and the Russian Autonomous Republic or no matter how out of this row. It’s very useful, for example, to do this in order to find out the percentage of ineptly lost Russian territories in 1991, for example, Novorossia, and blaming anyone from the deceased of the last century, but not themselves, and even more so someone who is now at the top .
                  3. RUSS
                    RUSS 16 February 2016 16: 57 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    where the Russian republic is part of the Russian Federation

                    Republic of Crimea
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    Who protects the rights and interests of the Russian nation?

                    The Constitution of the Russian Federation
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    Who represents her on the federation council

                    Representatives of the regions of which the vast majority are Russian
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    Where are the borders of the Russian national apartment

                    State border of Russia.
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    I personally do not need non-Russian tenants in a Russian apartment.

                    This is not even the level of frostbite skinheads
                    Quote: Goauld_Baal
                    True, once in history there was a period when the origin and nationality of a citizen did not matter — this was the time of the USSR under Comrade. Stalin

                    It’s interesting, what would Georgian answer Stalin IV to your words that you don’t need non-Russian tenants?
                2. Heimdall47
                  Heimdall47 16 February 2016 14: 47 New
                  0
                  Not only Russians live in Russia, and everyone has a different faith

                  But the Orthodox Russians predominantly created it, and it is no secret that the state is named after the name of our nationality. So the chatter about the friendship of peoples is chatter, and any honest person understands who in the state should be the first.
                  therefore, there are laws

                  We have been writing these laws since 1917 — those who lived below the Pale of Settlement before historical materialism. It would be time for them to shorten their hands, but no one.
                  1. Goauld_Baal
                    Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 14: 52 New
                    -2
                    Why I was thrown out with Russian land from Russian Russia, and now I am being persecuted only because I am Russian not only abroad (unfairly carried out by the open enemies of the Russian people - Lenin / Trotsky) but also persecuted in the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation is the same enemy to the Russian people as Ukraine, with Britain and Poland.
                    1. Heimdall47
                      Heimdall47 16 February 2016 15: 14 New
                      0
                      I agree with you and sympathize hi
                    2. Hon
                      Hon 16 February 2016 22: 14 New
                      0
                      And why do you think that you should be given some privileges, only on the grounds that you are Russian? In our consensus, everyone is equal, and even in the passport they do not write nationality. And a citizen of the Russian Federation of Russian nationality has equal rights with a citizen of the Russian Federation of non-Russian nationality. I do not like? Nobody drags you to Russia by force ...
                      1. Weyland
                        Weyland 16 February 2016 22: 51 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Hon
                        And why do you think that you should be given some privileges, only on the grounds that you are Russian?


                        I do not demand privileges - but why does a German, Greek, Jew and Kazakh, having returned to their historical homeland, receive citizenship in a simplified manner, while Russians (as well as Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashes, Lezgins and other indigenous peoples of Russia born outside the Russian Federation) - no shit !? To hell with your "Let's eat Russia" for such laws! am I vote only for the Liberal Democratic Party!
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  6. Goauld_Baal
    Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 15: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Hon
    Quote: Goauld_Baal
    Well, thank God I'm not a citizen of your wonderful country - the prison of the Russian people. Please tell me a naive (or simply lying) person - where is the Russian republic within the Russian Federation? Who protects the rights and interests of the Russian nation? Who represents her on the federation council? Where are the borders of the Russian national apartment? I personally do not need non-Russian tenants in a Russian apartment.
    True, once in history there was a period when the origin and nationality of a citizen did not matter — this was the time of the USSR under Comrade. Stalin. But unfortunately this time has passed. So it's time to determine where the Russian apartment is.

    Nobody creeps into your apartment, you yourself determine where the Russian apartment is and where it is non-Russian.
    For example, in Dagestan, hundreds of nationalities, and somehow you can’t determine the Avar apartment, Lezghin or Dargin. In Tatarstan, 40% of the population is Russian, and the Tatars are the second largest people in the Russian Federation, whether you like it or not, but it happened.
    And you should not climb into a strange monastery with your own charter.

    I am Russian. And I really want to know where my apartment is. I am not a Nazi and not a racist. But I am absolutely not interested in the life of other nations. Though blacks in Africa, even Dagestanis and Tatars. I'm interested in my life. I'm interested in my family. And I don’t understand why the Chechens and Bashkirs with the Chukchi have their own apartment, but I don’t have a Russian? It’s not clear who is under the nickname Hon begins to tell me where I do not belong. Personally, I'm already tired of it.
    1. Hon
      Hon 17 February 2016 10: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      . And I do not understand why the Chechens and Bashkirs with the Chukchi

      in Bashkiria 36% of the population are Russians and 29% are Bashkirs, so it turns out that most of the residents of the Bashkir apartment are Russians. Chukotka Autonomous Okrug 49% Russian 12% Chukchi. Russians are also in regions that are not Russian, as well as citizens of other nationalities living in Russian regions, with the exception of the Caucasus.
      Do you personally need to free a separate region?
  7. Goauld_Baal
    Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 17: 18 New
    -2
    Quote: RUSS
    Republic of Crimea

    And everything?
    Quote: RUSS
    The Constitution of the Russian Federation

    And how does this constitution protect Russians, for example, in Chechnya? Are there many Russians left? And how many other wonderful places in Russia where Russian is as good as in Chechnya? Even in Moscow, Russians are worse than migrants.
    Quote: RUSS
    State border of Russia.

    Do not mislead people. There is no country like Russia. There is the Russian Federation where all peoples except Russian are widely represented. Here everything about the Kurds is crying that they say that such a large nation does not have their own country. But there are 4 times more Russians, and Russians also do not have their own country.

    Quote: RUSS
    This is not even the level of frostbite skinheads

    What do you mean by that? Or do not you have reasonable arguments ..
    Quote: RUSS
    It’s interesting, what would Georgian answer Stalin IV to your words that you don’t need non-Russian tenants?

    In the days of Stalin, everything was in order with the Russian people. And such thoughts would not even have crossed my mind.
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    2. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2016 17: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      Do not mislead people. There is no country like Russia. There is a Russian Federation

      The constitution clearly states that our country is called Russia or the Russian Federation, which is equivalent.
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      There is the Russian Federation where all peoples except Russian are widely represented.

      This is how it is, but where then 80% of the Russians who inhabit Russia?
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      . It's all about the Kurds crying that they say that such a large nation does not have their own country

      I have a country, and you are sorry that you are without a country and without a "home for the Russians."
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      What do you mean by that? Or do not you have reasonable arguments ..

      And the fact that this is not even nationalism, but the statement of a marginal, lumpen.
      Here you are moaning, but can you really offer something? How do you see the "Russian Republic" and within what boundaries?
    3. Hon
      Hon 17 February 2016 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      Do not mislead people. There is no country like Russia. There is the Russian Federation where all peoples except Russian are widely represented. Here everything about the Kurds is crying that they say that such a large nation does not have their own country. But there are 4 times more Russians, and Russians also do not have their own country.

      Do we need to drive other nations out of Russia now, or drive them out of the reservation?
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      Even in Moscow, Russians are worse than migrants.

      I am Russian, I live in Moscow, I moved from the Saratov region, and I don’t think that I’m living badly in Moscow, or that they infringe me on something.
  8. Goauld_Baal
    Goauld_Baal 16 February 2016 19: 01 New
    -3
    Quote: RUSS
    I have a country, and you are sorry that you are without a country and without a "home for the Russians."

    Yes, you have nothing amiable. Besides the myths in your head.
    Quote: RUSS
    How do you see the "Russian Republic" and within what boundaries?

    At the very least, all borders drawn by Trotsky / Lenin during the creation of the USSR should be abolished. Further referendums. On the topic - the Caucasus must be expelled, Caucasians deported. 2) Should the small indigenous peoples of Siberia create reservations, or simply assimilate. 3) The prohibition of the most "peaceful" religion - Islam - is unconditional. 4) The Baltic States, Ukraine must be eliminated and assimilated. Any games supporting the culture, language and religion of foreigners should be prohibited by law. One country, one language, one culture.
    1. Heimdall47
      Heimdall47 16 February 2016 20: 21 New
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      Your words to God in the ears yes Only a complete ban on Islam is not possible - after all, we have such nationalities as Tatars, Bashkirs, who are quite normal people and have significant services to Russia. To humiliate them would be injustice.
    2. Captain nemo
      Captain nemo 16 February 2016 20: 58 New
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      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      At least all the borders drawn by Trotsky / Lenin during the creation of the USSR should be abolished.

      They are already canceled, and moreover, in June 1990.
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      Further referenda.

      In no case, as in the Crimea in 2014 or again, like us, it will be worse for you.
      Baltic States, Ukraine must be eliminated and assimilated.

      So for you, whatever the meaning of the word = Law = is important, or do you, like Putin, have something to do with it?
      If so, then do not resent the fact that in the spring of 1991 the Constitution of the USSR contained article 72. In which it was clearly and clearly stated the right of the Republic to withdraw from the USSR.
      And if there hadn’t been it, that referendum would have most likely failed, and the USSR would have disappeared not in December, but in March 1991, on completely legal grounds without a scream and a boom.
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 16 February 2016 22: 58 New
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      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      One country, one language, one culture


      I have already heard something similar: "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!"
    4. Hon
      Hon 17 February 2016 10: 44 New
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      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      On the topic - the Caucasus must be expelled, Caucasians deported. 2) Should the small indigenous peoples of Siberia create reservations, or simply assimilate. 3) The prohibition of the most "peaceful" religion - Islam - is unconditional. 4) The Baltic States, Ukraine must be eliminated and assimilated.

      Yes you are a fascist! it’s better not to poke your head in Russia, otherwise you’ll get a deadline, and not because Russian but because a fascist