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South Korean authorities began to think about "regime change" in the DPRK

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The South Korean parliament does not rule out taking a course on “regime change” in the neighboring DPRK in connection with the continuation there of nuclear weapons and intercontinental missiles, transmits RIA News statement of the head of the parliamentary commission on foreign affairs Kyung Won.





“After all, in the end, we are talking about regime change in relation to the authorities of North Korea?” I want to say that the time has come when you should even consider such options. ”
said the head of the commission.

The agency reminds that last week one of the South Korean deputies Tae Kyung (from the ruling Senuridan party) called on the government to reconsider the policy towards the northern neighbor and “take a course” to eliminate Kim Jong-un.
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  1. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 15 February 2016 09: 15 New
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    “After all, in the end we are talking about a regime change in relation to the authorities of North Korea? I want to say that the time has come when even such options should be considered ”
    You would think that such plans did not exist before. Or just decided to voice?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 15 February 2016 09: 24 New
      14
      Quote: Nikolay71
      I want to say that the time has come when even such options should be considered ”

      This is the State Department thought, and The Gene voiced! The cliche is old, but no matter how it goes to them sideways! Indeed, in fact, the South Caucasus does not need South Korea as an economically independent state, just like everyone else in the world! Their task: to organize a war game that automatically casts any country back!
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 February 2016 09: 26 New
        +5
        There they break their teeth.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 15 February 2016 09: 26 New
      11
      Quote: Nikolay71
      You would think that such plans did not exist before. Or just decided to voice?

      Why shake the air? Remember how the Spartans answered the Persians' demand for surrender? "Molon labe" - come and take it.
      And then all kinds of regime overthrowers divorced - Assad must leave, then Kim Jr. Act! Or stingy?
      1. Nikolasha
        Nikolasha 15 February 2016 12: 44 New
        0
        Were and will be
    3. rpek32
      rpek32 15 February 2016 09: 36 New
      +4
      and health they (S. Korea) is enough?
      1. Blondy
        Blondy 15 February 2016 10: 08 New
        0
        It’s interesting how spiteful they are, Nobody needs to go home, that we have relations and cooperation with South Korea, especially economic, ten times better than with the DPRK.
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 15 February 2016 10: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Blondy
          especially economic

          And that is true. Any electronics - South Korean. Not bad, by the way. And we do not need war in that region at all (however, as in any other).
          1. 0255
            0255 15 February 2016 13: 33 New
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            Quote: EvgNik
            Quote: Blondy
            especially economic

            And that is true. Any electronics - South Korean. Not bad, by the way. And we do not need war in that region at all (however, as in any other).

            Let Kim fans check their home for the presence of LG and Samsung electronics and throw it away. And they will send Hundai and KIA cars under the press laughing
        2. kotvov
          kotvov 15 February 2016 10: 23 New
          0
          , No one at home, that we have relations and cooperation with South Korea, especially economic, is ten times better than with the DPRK. ,,
          and what they voiced, sashka’s plan, can you also see the house?
          1. Blondy
            Blondy 15 February 2016 17: 20 New
            -1
            Quote: kotvov
            and what they voiced, sashka’s plan, can you also see the house?

            If you want to live, you will not be so disheartened
        3. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 15 February 2016 10: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: Blondy
          It’s interesting how spiteful they are, Nobody needs to go home, that we have relations and cooperation with South Korea, especially economic, ten times better than with the DPRK.

          Great who argues. Trading is better than fighting.
          Quote: EvgNik
          And that is true. Any electronics - South Korean. Not bad, by the way. And we do not need war in that region at all (however, as in any other).

          And this is true. Only. for a moment, with all its anti-American and anti-South Korean rhetoric, the DPRK does not have serious plans to change the regime in the Republic of Korea. For they know perfectly well that they cannot be implemented.
          But South Korea, with the support of the United States, is quite capable of trying to commit either a coup or, God forbid, aggression. For North Korea, nuclear weapons are the only guarantee against such a development of events. Whether we like it or not.
        4. vladimirw
          vladimirw 15 February 2016 10: 51 New
          +1
          So what? And yet another war game, and even with the use of nuclear weapons on our border! What is it like
        5. Boos
          Boos 15 February 2016 11: 25 New
          +2
          Do you propose to accept American bases in the load?)
        6. 34 region
          34 region 15 February 2016 12: 02 New
          +2
          Blondie! 10.08/XNUMX. Well, what did you mean by that? Will we support the intervention? If there is a war of North and South Korea, then economic relations should be forgotten. The entire economy will work for the front. South Korea incur losses, and the United States rejoice. Destroying South Korea’s economy is knocking out a competitor. And they are pushing them to this suicide. If you noticed that the USA forbids everyone to develop technologically. Everyone or technology is backward or bloodthirsty leaders (or neighbors). It is a pity there are no articles on VO concerning the death penalty, prisoners and crime in the USA. And doesn’t the US president sign death sentences? Sentences are handed down signed both for individual citizens and for countries and regions. Or bloodthirsty Stalin and Trotsky rule in the USA? Indeed, according to the logic of liberals, only they were engaged in this, and the United States, like Chip and Dale, was always in a hurry to help! Rescuers are bad! It is a pity there is no suitable emoticon.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 21 New
            +1
            Sentences are handed down signed both for individual citizens and for countries and regions. Or bloodthirsty Stalin and Trotsky rule in the USA? Indeed, according to the logic of liberals, only they were engaged in this, and the United States, like Chip and Dale, was always in a hurry to help!


            You do not understand anything in liberalism. Trotsky and Stalin were terrible dictators and therefore did not have the right to sign death sentences. And the American president is the guardian of democratic traditions that need to be protected. And therefore, it has every right to sign death sentences as separate unconscious elements that do not agree with this.
        7. alicante11
          alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 15 New
          +2
          It’s interesting how spiteful they are, Nobody needs to go home, that we have relations and cooperation with South Korea, especially economic, ten times better than with the DPRK.


          Yes, there’s a commercial relationship. Kims will take over the southerners' factories, and relations with them will be 100 times better; selling everything even cheaper will be everything you need.
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 15 February 2016 09: 39 New
      +8
      Well, stir up as still war on the borders of Russia, narrow-film.
    5. Wolverine
      Wolverine 15 February 2016 10: 48 New
      +1
      There have always been plans, but the country’s misfortune is closed to the pederast of the liberals, there’s nobody to stir up the water inside the country, and therefore from the screw ... fellow
    6. Atrix
      Atrix 15 February 2016 11: 07 New
      -2
      Quote: Nikolay71
      You would think that such plans did not exist before. Or just decided to voice?

      Why is South Korea a regime change in North ??? So you think logically, there is a neighboring country with 25 millions of beggars which only the iron curtain prevents from moving to South Korea, will the regime not begin to talk about the reunification of the peoples of Korea and what should North Korea join with the development of the 40-50x industry? For South Korea, death is like rebuilding a united Korea.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 15 February 2016 12: 08 New
        0
        Atrix! 11.07. Well, you can’t be so naive! Let us then connect the United States with Africa. After all, there are blacks living here and there! Think about who benefits from the death of South Korea? Just not the DPRK.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 28 New
        0
        Why is South Korea a regime change in North ???


        And why was the reunification of Germany necessary? Right, cheap rabsila. And in the case of the DPRK-UK, it is almost free.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 15 February 2016 13: 01 New
          0
          12.28. Then the South can connect with Zimbabwe! Maybe rabsil will be even cheaper? And why are Kurds not allowed to create their own country?
        2. Atrix
          Atrix 15 February 2016 13: 09 New
          -1
          Quote: alicante11
          And why was the reunification of Germany necessary? Right, cheap rabsila. And in the case of the DPRK-UK, it is almost free.

          Read the story. The leadership of Germany didn’t really want to restore Germany. Cheap slave force is when the inhabitants of one country go to work in another. And when states unite, then standards and salaries will be almost the same everywhere.
          Quote: Region 34
          Atrix! 11.07. Well, you can’t be so naive! Let us then connect the United States with Africa. After all, there are blacks living here and there! Think about who benefits from the death of South Korea? Just not the DPRK.

          What does America have to do with Africa ??? You have paranoia everywhere seems to be the United States. The death of South Korea is unprofitable for everyone, then that it will pull the economic crisis around the world.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 February 2016 15: 16 New
            0
            Read the story. The leadership of Germany didn’t really want to restore Germany.


            It is clear the day that they were not particularly asked, like the Yukov.

            And when states unite, then standards and salaries will be almost the same everywhere.


            Yes, this is not a fact, it is Russia in the Crimea that can deal with such things, but civilized people think differently.
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  2. Mera joota
    Mera joota 15 February 2016 09: 19 New
    +5
    At the Chinese need to negotiate, they can.
  3. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 15 February 2016 09: 20 New
    10
    Tae Kyung (from the ruling Senuridan party) called on the government to revise its northern neighbor policy and "take a course" to eliminate Kim Jong-un.
    The Korean deputy is naive and simple-minded like Korean cinema. Now all the newspapers will discuss how they will eliminate Una. Nothing will come of you. The protest is not possible. You won’t even find old tires to light the fire of the Orange Revolution. Well, there are many pluses to 100% Un's rating will be added by hissing from the South.
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 09: 24 New
      -2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Well, a lot of pluses to the 100% rating of Una will add this hiss from the South.

      Only if to the 100% rating of Kim fans with VO who admire and envy poverty and the total ban of everything in the DPRK, but they themselves do not want to live there laughing
      1. 34 region
        34 region 15 February 2016 12: 12 New
        -1
        0255! 09.24. I suspect the 0255 fanatic of the United States. What are you doing here then? what Blow to Syria under the black flags of freedom !!! bully Your brothers are waiting for you! love
        1. 0255
          0255 15 February 2016 13: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: 34 region
          0255! 09.24. I suspect the 0255 fanatic of the United States.

          I AM???!!! belay I do not like the United States for their "democratic" bombing, I do not like the "great marshals" Kims for the fact that their country was brought to starvation and everything was forbidden.
          Quote: 34 region
          What are you doing here then?

          Same as everyone else - I write comments. Do not like my comments - minus them to health.
          Quote: 34 region
          Blow to Syria under the black flags of freedom !!! Your brothers are waiting for you!

          Why are you sending me to Daesh? I'm not going to cut and blow up the "infidels". Go to the DPRK, Kim was waiting for you there wassat
  4. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 15 February 2016 09: 20 New
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    The universal Western medicine FOR EVERYTHING - "regime change" laughing

    Liberal democracy, supposedly a philosopher's stone, giving eternal life. laughing

    I agree with this statement only if this eternal life is vampire, consisting in drawing out life forces from those around; essentially the life of a parasite.

    By the way, every vampire is afraid of sunlight laughing ; Democrats do their indecency by hiding in the dusk; in the light - all their abomination crawls out.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 29 New
      +2
      The Universal Western Cure FOR EVERYTHING - "Regime Change"


      And after that they wonder "why kims have a vigorous loaf."
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 February 2016 09: 25 New
    +4
    The disease is progressing. A universal solution to all problems is to change the regime. So far, the result is very controversial, but it’s broken.
    How are they going to do it? There is no Internet, the "grandogers" do not work and do not receive TV programs from a neighbor. Fight? Well, this is just the last thing that can be influenced.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 09: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      There is no internet

      but what does the internet have to do with it? In the 80s and 90s, we also did not have it - they shook it)
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Fight? Well, this is just the last thing that can affect.

      hardly. Eun began reform. sooner or later this will lead (already leads) to a merger in ecstasy of officials and business.
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      "grandogers" do not work

      of course, because the UK does not provide financial assistance. There would be such - there would be "grantors". Of course, with party badges and from the inner circle. There is no need to look for a phenomenon - everything was invented and rolled back long ago. Variations are just possible)
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 32 New
        0
        of course, because the UK does not provide financial assistance. There would be such - there would be "grantors".


        What kind of help are we talking about? Grants are not help, but targeted funding for specific projects. In D.S. - overthrow of the regime.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 17: 55 New
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          What kind of help are we talking about? Grants are not help, but targeted funding

          Yes, what's the difference, what flows to saddle?
    2. Atrix
      Atrix 15 February 2016 11: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      How are they going to do it? There is no Internet, the "grandogers" do not work and do not receive TV programs from a neighbor. Fight? Well, this is just the last thing that can be influenced.

      I will disappoint you, almost everyone has radio receivers there, people receive money from relatives who fled to South Korea and China, so it’s realistic to organize a coup. Yes, and there are disgruntled people above the roof, especially among young people they know very well how they live in South Korea and China
      Just until this time, if you think logically, the unification of the two Koreas was not profitable precisely for South Korea. You just imagine 25 of millions of poor people pouring into South Korea, the whole country of North Korea is at the same level of development as 40-50x.
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 15 February 2016 11: 36 New
        -3
        Quote: Atrix
        You just imagine 25 million poor people pouring into South Korea, the whole country of North Korea is at a level in the development of the years that way 40-50x.

        China planned to gradually withdraw the DPRK from its current state through gradual economic reforms, knowing full well what potential Koreans have. They opened joint ventures, fed officials, started their lobbyists, familiarized North Koreans with achievements in the field of the same electronics, and showed how to live by combining communist ideology and a market economy. But the cheeky one came and first of all cleared the party ranks from pro-Chinese lobbyists, curtailed many projects, and spread nuclear missile hysteria. Honestly, I am amazed at the patience of the Chinese who suffered his tricks, pressed economically (remember the delay in delivering products from China to the border), conducted large-scale exercises near the border with the DPRK, but did nothing to physically eliminate the cheeky bad guy.
        But the question was solved simply, the DPRK has no defenses to repel an attack from the north, everything is directed to the south, in the north all strategic reserves of both fuel and food. One roll of a tank army with a landing in Pyongyang and the people of the DPRK who did not understand anything would be amazed to learn from the radio and newspapers how the usurper of the West, usurped by the basketball player Rodman Eun, had usurped power, tried to steal all the achievements of his glorious grandfather and father by overthrowing the party’s power by destroying him leaders, and then sell the country to the damned Yankees, etc. The whole country would stand in line for a month to publicly anathematize the renegade, after which the new government would carry out reforms that brought the country out of a permanent crisis, and there it was not far from unification with the south.
        Why does China need to unite Korea? In order to deduce its areas of influence of the United States, having received such an ally, China will strengthen its position both in the world and in the region.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 39 New
          +2
          showed how you can live combining a communist ideology and a market economy.


          In this case, we say, "you either take off the cross, or put on your panties." China is now as communist as the CPRF.

          But the cheeky one came and first of all cleared the party ranks from pro-Chinese lobbyists, curtailed many projects, and spread nuclear missile hysteria.


          To be honest, I don’t know what Eun was folding there. But the nuclear program is not his brainchild at all. And not even he resumed it.

          But the issue was simply resolved, the DPRK has no defenses to repel an attack from the north,


          This is precisely why it is clear that there are no serious differences between the Chinese and the DPRK. Otherwise, the Chinese would long ago have established "revolutionary order" there.

          Why does China need to unite Korea? In order to deduce its areas of influence of the United States, having received such an ally, China will strengthen its position both in the world and in the region.


          Damn, dear, well, do not you understand that the unification of Korea can only be under the auspices of the United States? Well, they will not allow the southerners to fall under the Chinese, and for this they have everything in the South Caucasus, even troops.
      2. 34 region
        34 region 15 February 2016 12: 29 New
        +1
        Atrix! 11.00 a.m. And why gloat? Was South Korea blocked by sanctions and North was given loans? And how wonderful they live in China? Does not work? Or work 25 hours a day? What does it mean beautifully? Did the West help the south with loans and did it rise? And why did not rise Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya? After all, there is freedom! But this is not necessary. If the Soviet Union would have perhaps made an advertising move as with Greece. And where is Greece now? Yes, however, the whole of Europe. Where is she going? Thriving? And why then do they have a crisis? Or is it (crisis) only in Russia? But we also have freedom! And why do we have working poor? How can you work and be a beggar? Or do these poor people live in the DPRK? And in Russia only wealthy people live on which three de printers work!
  6. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 15 February 2016 09: 28 New
    12
    Quote: Gormengast
    Liberal democracy, supposedly a philosopher's stone, giving eternal life
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 09: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: coconut tim
      Quote: Gormengast
      Democracy is .... Bernard Shaw

      Good quote) Aphorism Show not surpass)
    2. cap
      cap 15 February 2016 10: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: coconut tim
      Quote: Gormengast
      Liberal democracy, supposedly a philosopher's stone, giving eternal life


      Perhaps transmitted by airborne droplets, in contact with the carrier.
      Perhaps the Koreans began to forget.KoreaKorea
  7. newcomer
    newcomer 15 February 2016 09: 34 New
    +3
    as I understand it, soon the DPRK will return the southern half, what would be the nonsense of the southerners of the Yankees.
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 10: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: newbie
      as I understand it, soon the DPRK will return the southern half, what would be the nonsense of the southerners of the Yankees.

      This is unlikely, the North Korean army is armed with ancient equipment from the 1950s and 1960s. At most, Kim will be able to deliver a nuclear strike on South Korea, but then the DPRK will be bombed into the Stone Age, neither Russia nor China will intercede for the "great marshal". Let's be realistic.
      Have pity on the South Koreans, why else should they be plunged into poverty with the prohibition of everything and everyone under the leadership of the "great marshal"?
      1. 34 region
        34 region 15 February 2016 12: 39 New
        0
        0255! 10.19. And who plunges southerners into poverty? Eun seems to be silent about this. But the south, as a dancer, is in the way. The south might not have noticed this. But he was prompted. And to make out, they also gave a microscope. And the south saw a huge problem! And who is trying to plunge the southerners into poverty? Those who are under the microscope or those who gave the microscope? North sub competitor? What are they competing in? A good competitor is a dead competitor. What did the North kill at the South? But the dead South is a big gut for the United States. Or do the South and the US not compete in anything?
        1. 0255
          0255 15 February 2016 13: 36 New
          0
          Quote: 34 region
          0255! 10.19. And who plunges southerners into poverty? Eun seems to be silent about this. But the south, as a dancer, is in the way. The south might not have noticed this. But he was prompted. And to make out, they also gave a microscope. And the south saw a huge problem! And who is trying to plunge the southerners into poverty? Those who are under the microscope or those who gave the microscope? North sub competitor? What are they competing in? A good competitor is a dead competitor. What did the North kill at the South? But the dead South is a big gut for the United States. Or do the South and the US not compete in anything?

          Do you want to say the UK is getting poorer?
  8. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 09: 34 New
    -2
    The theme of Korea has become a trend. Fasts daily)
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 February 2016 09: 44 New
      -4
      Quote: Zeppelin ml.
      The theme of Korea has become a trend. Fasts daily)

      Spiritual braces.
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 09: 59 New
        -2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        The theme of Korea has become a trend. Fasts daily)

        Spiritual braces.

        padded jacket manches, does not set off.
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  9. engineer74
    engineer74 15 February 2016 09: 37 New
    +1
    Second Korean War? According to the first scenario or with additions and clarifications? I think China and Russia will strongly oppose ... The Middle East has not eaten yet, "democratizers"! We, IMHO, will provide transit for Korean refugees to the EU and the Chinese will provide them with a bicycle ...
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 10: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: engineer74
      Second Korean War?

      why the second? Is the first one finished? Is the world signed? Did I miss something..
    2. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 10: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: engineer74
      Second Korean War? According to the first scenario or with additions and refinements? I think China and Russia will strongly oppose ...

      For almost 2 years, the Ukrainian conflict has been going on at the borders of the Russian Federation, something has not stopped, despite the notes of protest from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and cheering patriotic forecasts that Kharkov and Odessa are about to rise, Ukrainians are about to throw off Poroshenko, fall in love with Russia and enter its composition.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 15 February 2016 10: 41 New
        +2
        Do not confuse "warm with soft" - all players are interested in the Ukrainian conflict, except for the people of Donbass. And even South Korea is not entirely interested in a new Korean war ...
        IMHO, DPRK, is not as independent as it seems ...
  10. newcomer
    newcomer 15 February 2016 09: 40 New
    +6
    Before you climb onto the DPRK, let them look at Syria. and the army of the DPRK will be stronger.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 09: 43 New
      -3
      Quote: newbie
      and the army of the DPRK will be stronger.

      perhaps. But, I remember, in about the same tone they spoke about the army of Saddam.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 44 New
        +1
        perhaps. But, I remember, in about the same tone they spoke about the army of Saddam.


        Saddam was killed by the entire "civilized world". Southerners alone will not be able to cope completely And if someone else sticks his head, he will get in the snout from the Chinese.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 13: 02 New
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          Saddam was killed by the entire "civilized world".

          Mobility resources for Koreas are different) 14.2 million for southerners versus 6.2 for Eun. According to open sources. This, of course, if "one on one", which is unlikely)
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 February 2016 15: 19 New
            0
            Mobility resources for Koreas are different) 14.2 million for southerners versus 6.2 for Eun. According to open sources. This, of course, if "one on one", which is unlikely)


            Well, mobresource is not everything. The question is preparation and the desire to fight. With the YUKs, if you win, feed Kimov, if you lose, they themselves will devour you. Wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge. What a fighting spirit.
  11. AlexTires
    AlexTires 15 February 2016 09: 44 New
    +4
    The South Koreans have forgotten that there is such a country China that will not allow overthrowing power in North Korea, for it is an absolute absorption of the South Caucasus in the future, that China is not profitable, because then a flagpole with a flag of the color of star-striped will appear on the border ...
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      1. apro
        apro 15 February 2016 11: 39 New
        +4
        It is difficult to find a state more dangerous than SGA and Israel; the DPRK is much more independent and progmatic than the Southerners.
      2. AlexTires
        AlexTires 15 February 2016 12: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        The time will come when China will get tired of the twists of this fat baby doll, because in the end it will come to the fact that S. Korea and its leadership will be more dangerous than South Korea.

        With the unification of Koreas, China will receive military bases with the United States along the entire 1500 km border ... This is a strategic defeat for China in a "war that has not yet begun" ....
      3. alicante11
        alicante11 15 February 2016 12: 45 New
        +1
        When China is tired of the "bobblehead antics", then a new "bobblehead" will appear in the DPRK, and the Chinese will not give up the DPRK. Nafig them amerskie bases near Manchuria?
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 15 February 2016 13: 15 New
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          When China is tired of the "bobblehead antics", then a new "bobblehead" will appear in the DPRK, and the Chinese will not give up the DPRK. Nafig them amerskie bases near Manchuria?

          In S. Korea, not only the Chinese, but also Russia do not need a Yankee base.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 February 2016 15: 20 New
            0
            In S. Korea, not only the Chinese, but also Russia do not need a Yankee base.


            The day is clear, but they don’t particularly ask us. This is, after all, a zone of influence of China and we should not run into it once again.
      4. 34 region
        34 region 15 February 2016 12: 48 New
        +1
        Atalef! 09.49. South Korea is a US site. Does China need US expansion to the north? Enough of the fact that we left Eastern Europe. The Chinese learn from our schools. And they look at your neighbors as they joined freedom. hi You have already had bloody dictators in your neighbors. Now they are finished and everyone is happy. Life is a success! wassat
    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 15 February 2016 11: 17 New
      -3
      Quote: AlexTires
      The South Koreans have forgotten that there is such a country as China that will not allow overthrowing power in North Korea,

      So who is most interested in this is China.
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 15 February 2016 12: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Mera Joota
        So who is most interested in this is China.

        Not interested why see comment comment above ...
  12. Ignatius
    Ignatius 15 February 2016 09: 44 New
    +3
    Mattress makers, starting with Libya, continuing with Ukraine and Syria, now North Korea and further wherever it is necessary to expand democracy - the zone of complete US control, seek to create as many precedents as possible forcibly displacing current state leaders.
  13. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 15 February 2016 10: 21 New
    0
    With North Korea, of course, you need to bring some kind of marafet! Otherwise, they will be stuck in the era of feudalism. The people do not see life except praise for the "great" Eun!
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 10: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      With North Korea, of course you need to bring some sort of marafet!

      leave marching Korean women in parades !!! padded jacket like ...
    2. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 10: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      With North Korea, of course, you need to bring some kind of marafet! Otherwise, they will be stuck in the era of feudalism. The people do not see life except praise for the "great" Eun!

      And local Kim fans envy them fool
    3. 34 region
      34 region 15 February 2016 12: 54 New
      +1
      10.21. Thank! On the outskirts of the marafet already induce. Have a desire to relocate to them? There (on the outskirts) the era of feudalism has passed? Today is their Age?
  14. guzik007
    guzik007 15 February 2016 10: 22 New
    0
    The country, excitedly mourning the death of leaders, cannot defeat anyone.
    Do we not know.
  15. newcomer
    newcomer 15 February 2016 11: 02 New
    +4
    0255 in my sowing. Koreans have already proven that they can hold the blow in front of all sorts of civilizers. their spirit is high, plus the help of the PRC and ours. and about the overthrow of fluffy white southerners under bans, as you know, bans, that is, laws are their internal affair. All the same, an independent state, and people like it. and poverty is first debatable_ on what scale do we measure? or maybe we’ll just watch from the side how one of the few remaining countries loyal to us is hammered into democracy?
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 11: 53 New
      -2
      Quote: newbie
      0255 in my sowing. Koreans have already proven that they can hold the blow in front of all sorts of civilizers.

      In 1950-1953, the DPRK would not have survived without the help of the USSR and China.
      Quote: newbie
      their spirit is high, plus the help of the PRC and ours.

      Russia and China have supplied a lot of equipment to Kim lately. It is only Juche fans who are ready to fit the "great leader" Armata tanks, Su-35 and PAK FA fighters, Tu-160 "strategists" laughing
      Quote: newbie
      and about the overthrow of fluffy white southerners under bans, as you know, bans, that is, laws are their internal affair. All the same, an independent state, and people like it.

      Let us ban the Internet, private transport, the ability to travel abroad, like a North Korean, how do you sing then? Do you want to refuse it yourself? The prohibitions of everything in the DPRK are admired by people who do not live in it and do not want to move there for permanent residence, who have benefits that have come to us from the west. North Koreans themselves know how they live in South Korea, not all of them are satisfied with hunger and prohibitions there.
      Quote: newbie
      and poverty is first debatable_ on what scale do we measure?

      Starvation, a skinny population - is this not an indicator of poverty?
      Quote: newbie
      or maybe we’ll just watch from the side how one of the few remaining countries loyal to us is hammered into democracy?

      To what extent is Kim a real ally of Russia? Russia benefits from South Korea more than from the DPRK, and even the "allies" from the CIS. South Korean firms open their factories in Russia, give jobs to Russians, and do not beg for gas discounts like Ukraine or another loan like Belarus.
      Russia looks at how the Armed Forces of Ukraine are bringing "democracy" to the pro-Russian DPR and LPR, it requires the militia to comply with the Minsk agreements, and nothing. Where is the guarantee that Russia will stand up for the DPRK if something happens?
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 15 February 2016 12: 00 New
        0
        Quote: 0255
        Russia from South Korea is more useful

        by the way, the South Caucasus did not join the sanctions either. And about the TPP - "announced its interest." Are the "brothers" Vietnamese?
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 15 February 2016 13: 11 New
        +2
        In 1950-1953, the DPRK would not have survived without the help of the USSR and China.


        Well, the country was a little inferior to the amers both in terms of population and economic opportunities. What to take from yesterday's Japanese colony?

        Russia and China have supplied a lot of equipment to Kim lately. Only Juche fans are ready to fit the "great leader" Armata tanks, Su-35 and PAK FA fighters, Tu-160 "strategists" laughing


        Well, Russia and China have become quite bourgeois powers. And disinterestedly no longer help. All for the grandmothers, whom Kim, under sanctions, is not a lot. But for the time being, the reserve has been enough to contain the southerners. And if anyone else climbs, then the Chinese will bark.

        Let us ban the Internet, private transport, the ability to travel abroad, like a North Korean, how do you sing then?


        By and large, for me personally, of all the Internet, only the domain "ru" is important. The kims also have their own domain. And if they wish, they can easily organize an internal network. The problem there, most likely, is the lack of personal computers in the marketable quantity. The problem of personal transportation will also be solved if there are enough cars. I don't have the opportunity to go abroad anyway. Because it is too expensive to take yourself out with your wife and three children. And, nothing, I do not sing.

        The prohibitions of everything in the DPRK are admired by people who do not live in it and who do not want to move there for permanent residence, who have benefits that have come to us from the west.


        Yes, the benefactors are direct, Western. Especially benefited Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc.

        North Koreans themselves know how they live in South Korea, not all of them are satisfied with hunger and prohibitions there.


        No one can be satisfied with hunger and prohibitions. But they simply explain to the Kims that in the South Caucasus there are not only the rich and the "middle class", but also the lower classes, who live even worse than the Kims. Our people forgot about it in the late 80s and got 90s. I hope that the DPRK leadership will not let its citizens forget about it.

        Starvation, a skinny population - is this not an indicator of poverty?


        Starvation is the fault of those who imposed sanctions against the DPRK.

        How Kim is Russia's real ally?
        Where is the guarantee that Russia, in which case, will stand up for the DPRK?


        Not at all. Kims are China's henchmen.
        Do not intervene, because it is not our zone of influence.

        South Korean firms open their plants in Russia, give jobs to Russians


        Yes, they would go with their factories. We need to build our own, and the government is resting on its laurels for this "screwdriver assembly".
        1. 0255
          0255 15 February 2016 13: 45 New
          -1
          Yes, the benefactors are direct, Western. Especially benefited Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc.

          Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria and Iraq were "de-democratized" by the United States, the DPRK was brought to poverty and lawlessness by their own rulers.
          Yes, they would go with their plants.

          This is you tell the workers of factories Samsung, LG and Hundai laughing SK gives work to Russian citizens; it is better to work in a foreign enterprise than to sit without any work at all.
          We need to build our own, and the government is resting on its laurels for this "screwdriver assembly".

          Question to the government and not to me
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 February 2016 15: 14 New
            +1
            Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria and Iraq were "de-democratized" by the United States, the DPRK was brought to poverty and lawlessness by their own rulers.


            Although I can argue, this is not about that, but about the "benefactors."

            You are the workers of Samsung, LG and Hundai factories tell laughing UK gives work to Russian citizens, it is better to work in a foreign enterprise than to sit without any work.


            Better yet, work in your factories, rather than bend your back on the enemies of the motherland and make money on weapons that you will later kill.

            Question to the government and not to me


            And this is not a question, but a statement.
  16. newcomer
    newcomer 15 February 2016 12: 02 New
    +3
    0255 in your komente you chopped up such a salad_ Venegret breaks. I’ll say only one thing that you cannot climb into a strange monastery with your prayer. it’s with this that you are apparently infected by liberal ideas. and most importantly: do not you think that the humanitarian situation in this proud country is precisely the result of democratic sanctions? and about the USSR, China, well, everything is at a glance: the Korean republic would not have existed without the intervention of the Yankees with jackals.
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 12: 32 New
      -1
      Quote: newbie
      0255 in your komente you chopped up such a salad_ Venegret breaks. I’ll say only one thing that you cannot climb into a strange monastery with your prayer. it’s with this that you are apparently infected by liberal ideas.

      Anyway, the prohibition of everything and everything - this is really nonsense, which not all North Koreans who know how neighboring countries live are satisfied. A lot of Western things were forbidden in the USSR, as a result, the population considered the whole Western to be the peak of perfection, joyfully welcomed the perestroika in the 1980s and the Yeltsin traitors of the 1990s, hoping for life in the West. Do you think in the DPRK there can be no pro-Western moods from a low standard of living?
      Quote: newbie
      and most importantly: do not you think that the humanitarian situation in this proud country is precisely the result of democratic sanctions?

      China and Russia do not sell food in the DPRK?
      Quote: newbie
      and about the USSR, China, well, everything is at a glance: the Korean republic would not have existed without the intervention of the Yankees with jackals.

      In fact, Korea was a Japanese colony; it was divided between the USA and the USSR as the winners. They also wanted to divide Japan as Korea or Germany, but "did not grow together"
  17. igorek4515
    igorek4515 15 February 2016 12: 10 New
    +2
    It’s interesting how spiteful they are, Nobody needs to go home, that we have relations and cooperation with South Korea, especially economic, ten times better than with the DPRK.

    UTs of us and the West until recently, relations and cooperation were even better than with South Korea and what .. Where are they now ..? Already a la new cold war has begun .. so this is not an argument ..
    Why is South Korea a regime change in North ??? So you think logically, there is a neighboring country with 25 millions of beggars which only the iron curtain prevents from moving to South Korea, will the regime not begin to talk about the reunification of the peoples of Korea and what should North Korea join with the development of the 40-50x industry? For South Korea, death is like rebuilding a united Korea.

    good question .. Only you ask it to these South Korean deputies who are carrying these plans and their overseas patrons who are sleeping and seeing that they would overthrow the regime in the DPRK.
    Only if to the 100% rating of Kim fans with VO who admire and envy poverty and the total ban of everything in the DPRK, but they themselves do not want to live there

    As you have already gotten all these messengers for permanent residence in North Korea .. Where would you all be sent from here ... When will you all calm down then ..
    I will disappoint you, almost everyone has radio receivers there, people receive money from relatives who fled to South Korea and China, so it’s realistic to organize a coup. Yes, and there are disgruntled people above the roof, especially among young people they know very well how they live in South Korea and China

    Did they say that to you on BBC ...? Or where else .. Have you yourself been there in the DPRK ..? You personally communicated with the youth there .. Before making such categorical conclusions ..
    Just until this time, if you think logically, the unification of the two Koreas was not profitable precisely for South Korea. You just imagine 25 of millions of poor people pouring into South Korea, the whole country of North Korea is at the same level of development as 40-50x.

    To do this, it is imperative to overthrow the regime by force ..?
    Have pity on the South Koreans, why else should they be plunged into poverty with the prohibition of everything and everyone under the leadership of the "great marshal"?

    And with what fright we should feel sorry for them .. They are our brothers or who ... if they themselves run up .. if you feel sorry for them then you can go to them and fight for them ..
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 12: 48 New
      -2
      Quote: igorek4515
      UTs of us and the West until recently, relations and cooperation were even better than with South Korea and what .. Where are they now ..? Already a la new cold war has begun .. so this is not an argument ..

      SK did not join the anti-Russian sanctions; its production in the Russian Federation is not curtailed. Here are some bastards laughing And they do not ask for soft loans, like the CIS countries.
      Quote: igorek4515
      good question .. Only you ask it to these South Korean deputies who are carrying these plans and their overseas patrons who are sleeping and seeing that they would overthrow the regime in the DPRK.

      Kim threatened in 2013 to deliver a nuclear attack on the South Caucasus, calmed down only as he received food from the damned imperialists. Why should South Koreans like being constantly threatened with missiles?
      Quote: igorek4515
      Did they say that to you on BBC ...? Or where else .. Have you yourself been there in the DPRK ..? You personally communicated with the youth there .. Before making such categorical conclusions ..

      DPRK forbidden to express dissatisfaction, see Russian d / f about them
      Quote: igorek4515
      Have pity on the South Koreans, why else should they be plunged into poverty with the prohibition of everything and everyone under the leadership of the "great marshal"?

      And with what fright we should feel sorry for them .. They are our brothers or who ... if they themselves run up .. if you feel sorry for them then you can go to them and fight for them ..

      I wrote above about the importance of the DPRK and the South Caucasus for Russia. How does the South Caucasus run into Kimov’s threats? By its fact of existence?
  18. igorek4515
    igorek4515 15 February 2016 12: 22 New
    +2
    Let us ban the Internet, private transport, the ability to travel abroad, like a North Korean, how do you sing then? Do you want to refuse it yourself? The prohibitions of everything in the DPRK are admired by people who do not live in it and do not want to move there for permanent residence, who have benefits that have come to us from the west

    Once again, when will you calm down, then you yourself are not tired of "sending all your opponents to North Korea .. So go yourself to South Korea if you feel so sorry for them and you like them so much ..
    Starvation, a skinny population - is this not an indicator of poverty?

    About starvation, who told you ..? the source can lead .. Or, as always, just to blurt out something offensive to this country ..
    How Kim is Russia's real ally?

    At least Kim is always respectful of Russia and even ready to visa-free regime for Russians to do and cooperate in the economy .. And not only in the economy .. But only the Russian liberal authorities prefer to sing along to American and South Korean mongrels ..
    Russia benefits from South Korea more than from the DPRK, and even the "allies" from the CIS.

    What are you ..? And the benefit for you personally is what ..?
    . Where is the guarantee that Russia, in which case, will stand up for the DPRK?

    While in Russia in power, the pro-Western liberal elite will definitely not intervene ..
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 13: 10 New
      -1
      Quote: igorek4515
      Once again, when will you calm down, then you yourself are not tired of "sending all your opponents to North Korea .. So go yourself to South Korea if you feel so sorry for them and you like them so much ..

      My heart is bleeding from how supporters of the prohibition of everything and everything along the model of the DPRK are themselves tormented in Russia, using American computers and the Internet, which North Koreans do not have freedom wassat
      About starvation, who told you ..? the source can lead .. Or, as always, just to blurt out something offensive to this country ..

      And what, they did not have hunger? Or do you automatically call any news about the famine in the DPRK a lie?
      Here are a couple of pictures of "well-fed" North Koreans.
      http://bigpicture.ru/?p=213990
      Although you say that this is Photoshop laughing
    2. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 13: 21 New
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      Russia benefits from South Korea more than from the DPRK, and even the "allies" of the CIS
      What are you ..? And the benefit for you personally is what ..?

      For me personally, the benefit of YK is the opportunity to buy their goods, they are of very good quality. And why is it not useful for the Russian Federation in the assembly plants of LG, Samsung, Hyundai? This is actually more useful than "allies" like Belarus, which begs for a loan for slogans about "sayuznam state".
  19. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 15 February 2016 12: 28 New
    +3
    If someone, here and there, sometimes
    Amersky does not want to live.
    The ameroid is ready to wage an invisible battle with him.
    Permanently, day and night. laughing

    The Korean bomb was formed due to the grave refusal of the mattresses to fulfill their obligations to build nuclear reactors and supply fuel oil. They promised - and did not. Now, again, everyone around them is suffering from stripoids; including North Koreans.
  20. newcomer
    newcomer 15 February 2016 12: 52 New
    +5
    0255 you exaggerate everything and make populist statements. moreover, you contradict yourself: either hungry fainting, or selling food. hmm, sell little? Dear, do not carry nonsense, this dialogue of ours is empty. I actually talked about the Korean War, when the northerners almost swallowed the southerners. now you probably want the revenge of the southerners, the same thing will happen again only with the opposite effect. but nothing if millions of Koreans die? Then neither your Internet nor anything else will interest them.
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 13: 59 New
      0
      Quote: newbie
      0255 you exaggerate everything and make populist statements. moreover, you contradict yourself: either hungry fainting, or selling food. hmm, sell little?

      Kim is trading with Russia and China, but they still have hunger there, look at the photos of ordinary North Koreans and Kim, who is clearly not starving.
  21. igorek4515
    igorek4515 15 February 2016 13: 12 New
    +2
    SK did not join the anti-Russian sanctions; its production in the Russian Federation is not curtailed. Here are some bastards

    Yes, where does the sanction ..? but they did not support the annexation of Crimea .. But Kim was one of the first to support the annexation of the Crimea .. and now what ..? about enterprises .. joint ventures with Russia in the Khasan Rajin zone Kim also does not collapse ..
    And they do not ask for soft loans, like the CIS countries.

    Kim, by the way, also does not ask for soft loans from anyone .. he just stands for equal cooperation ..
    Kim threatened to launch a nuclear strike on the South Caucasus in 2013,

    What are you .. And you can give confirmation ..? I've always read that Kim always threatened to launch a nuclear strike against the United States and that only in case of American aggression .. and not without reason, he generally stated that they would not use nuclear weapons at all against South Korea as against their compatriots since they had created them completely for another..
    Why should South Koreans like being constantly threatened with missiles?

    And why should the North Koreans like that they are threatened with military aggression and constantly conduct military exercises near their borders and work out plans for a military invasion of them and American bombers fly and American aircraft carriers fly near them ..?
    DPRK forbidden to express dissatisfaction, see Russian d / f about them

    Well, in southern Koea it is also forbidden to express discontent read their law on national security ..
    . How does the South Caucasus run into Kimov’s threats? By its fact of existence?

    that he constantly provokes them with his joint exercises with the Americans with the development of plans for a military invasion of the DPRK. With what every year. now here is the threat of a military regime change ..
  22. igorek4515
    igorek4515 15 February 2016 13: 27 New
    +1
    My heart is bleeding from how supporters of the prohibition of everything and everything along the model of the DPRK are themselves tormented in Russia, using American computers and the Internet, which North Koreans do not have freedom

    Well, so that your heart does not bleed, you yourself can go to permanent residence in America or South Korea ..?)))) And here we ourselves will somehow figure out to whom and where to go to live ..))))
    And what, they did not have hunger?

    The famine was in the 90s, but this does not mean that now there is hunger ..
    Or do you automatically call any news about the famine in the DPRK a lie?

    if this news is confirmed by anything specific, I won’t name it. And if, with reference to an anonymous source, and even comes from South Korea, then excuse me ..
    Here are a couple of pictures of "well-fed" North Koreans.
    http://bigpicture.ru/?p=213990
    Although you say that this is Photoshop

    You are mistaken .. I’ll tell you that I can pick up these pictures from any country and not two .. you want from Russia, you want from the USA or South Korea .. so this is not an argument .. if the photographer purposefully looked for completely blackmail then it only says about his bias and bias and the initial desire to compromise the country with such photos .. I repeat, I can collect such photos from any country ..
    1. 0255
      0255 15 February 2016 13: 54 New
      0
      Quote: igorek4515
      Well, so that your heart does not bleed, you yourself can go to permanent residence in America or South Korea ..?)))) And here we ourselves will somehow figure out to whom and where to go to live ..))))

      If not for their aggressive policies, maybe he would have gone there. And I don’t want to live in a country that is bombing everyone who wants to.