Third world on the threshold. Are we ready?

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More and more authors in various media say that the Third World War is not far off. Even with a capital letter: Third World. And they make various judgments about who is who, who is for whom, and, finally, the most burning question for us: is Russia ready for this cataclysm?

Let's take a little look at history.



World War I

Russia was in a state of economic growth, but one that really instilled fear in all "partners." There was no such word then, but the essence was. It hasn't changed much in 100 years. As, however, and "partners" who tried at any cost to remove Russia to the margins of world politics and economics.

Russia was absolutely not ready for war. Moreover, if by the beginning of the Second World War the USSR would have approached to the same degree of readiness, then we would hardly have written, and you read it all. But the heroism and dedication of Russian soldiers, as well as the real literacy and skills of Russian military leaders like Samsonov, Brusilov, Denikin, Kolchak, Kornilov, Alekseev, allowed us to enter the war on equal terms and win many glorious victories. Yes, there were also Vlasov-Rennenkampfas, but where in our history without them.

Of course, the uniqueness of the outcome for Russia was that, being in alliance with the winners, Russia lost to the loser. And she lost not only a huge part of her territory, but also weight on the world stage. But for that, thanks to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin).

The Second World War

A strange coincidence, but by the beginning of World War II, the Soviet Union also approached the rise. By this time, Joseph Vissarionovich had already successfully pitted all the "old Bolsheviks" and engaged in the industrialization of the country. Successfully engaged.

At least by 1939, the Red Army was armed with a lot of what was not in the Russian army. For instance, Tanks in general, and domestic aircraft. Good or not - the third thing, the fact that Stalin and his comrades were able to organize the release of what they then beat everyone in the Great Patriotic War, is undeniable.

Was the Union ready for war? Today we can definitely say no. Here we have personnel shortages caused by the army cleaning (to a greater extent) and repressions (to a lesser extent), and retooling with new models of equipment and many other points that were discussed here more than once.

But were our opponents ready? It is difficult to say, but we believe that the German army was superior to the Soviet one only in terms of personnel. The rest - sorry, in the films, of course, show "Tigers" near Smolensk, but people who know that the bulk of German "tank armadas" were T-2 and T-3, and trophies of French and Czechoslovak production.

But the finale is well known. Germany was ready for a tactical operation, albeit a large scale, called "Blitzkrieg", but it was not enough for long military operations. And in a strategic confrontation, the Soviet Union was stronger.

The Third World War

Is Russia today on the rise comparable with 1914 or 1941 for years? It is doubtful, to be honest. Sanctions, crisis, import substitution ... A difficult question, but no more than yes.

On the readiness of our army, too, different opinions. As the state of the various components of our armed forces.

Fleet. Probably none of the components of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was in such a severe crisis. And continues to be. Yes, work is underway, the fleet receives new warships, but the base still consists of veterans of the Soviet Navy, whatever one may say. And to say that in the main theaters our fleet is capable of long-term actions of a large-scale nature ... well, for this you have to be too optimistic. Weaken the enemy - yes. Defensive actions are quite. Offensive - more than doubtful. This is especially true of the Pacific.

Aviation. This is probably comparable to 1941. New planes arrive, they are really good and competitive, even, most likely, more than enough. But their depressing quantity is still depressing. I would like more. But if anything, the main blow to take the "old people" Su-27, MiG-29, MiG-31. Let it be modernized. They are comforted by a fairly large number. And we also have few new attack helicopters.

Air defense. Here we can say that we are still ahead of the rest. This air defense to date, no one else in the area. And this is good news. Especially when C-300 is replaced by C-500, and C2 Armor is added. And they will launch two more Voronezh-DM stations. To become quieter in my heart.

Ground troops. About the same as in aviation. Yes, last year we were shown a lot of new equipment samples. And samples of good technology. But this does not mean that all of her tomorrow will be in the army. It does not turn out. It is one thing to “pile” several Kurgans for the parade, and quite another thing is to launch them into a series. Judging by what is happening at the Kurgan Mechanical Plant, God forbid that everything could work through 5 over the years.

So the same T-72 and T-90, but with the letters after the numbers, will make up our strike base. That is, upgraded to the state of "good technology", but not in the category of "miracleweapon".

We specifically kept silent about the missile systems. About them later. As well as not considering the use of nuclear weapons. Yes, many of our readers are eager to press the red button, “and the whole world is in dust,” but we, being reasonable people and leaving school years far behind, understand that no one is going to use nuclear weapons. For now at least.

What do we have in terms of personnel? Perhaps a little better than the 22.06.1941. A little better is in terms of the fact that there are no commanders in the higher echelons of yesterday's company and commanders. Already as well. Below - worse. Unfortunately, the turnover of personnel among the middle officers is great. Yes, there is a tendency to improvement, but again it takes time to fully stabilize.

But with regards to the very bottom, even the authors had different opinions. We did not come to the same denominator, which is still worse: the year of training a soldier, albeit in a real way, or two, of which at least a quarter or even half of the time the soldier did what the devil knows. Well, as in the USSR.

As it was in the main number of parts of the Armed Forces of the USSR, both knew firsthand. They took a direct part, so to speak. Is it better today? On the one hand, it is better, on the other - here we have agreed on one point - it is not enough a year to train a professional fighter.

The year is a full-fledged "private, partially prepared." Yes, AK-74, SVD, PC-RPK, RPG-7, Fagot, Metis, Contest. Familiar to all, "native" names. And it's still today. Tomorrow - “Attack”, “Cornet”, new models of small arms - this is all not for a deadline. Anyway.

On the whole, though, our armaments are basically still there, in the late nineties, but in fact the period of collapse has passed. There is a creation. If we are given the opportunity to complete rearmament, then talk about the war will most likely subside. No - the 22.06.1941 option is still in the air.

However, who said that our potential adversaries are better than us?

Yes, it is impossible to say that we are ready to participate in this Third World. But our potential adversaries, and probably we should not hide the fact that this is the United States, NATO and Japan, are even less prepared.

It’s ridiculous to talk about NATO troops who are ready for something serious, if you don’t mean the US Army. Yes, the American army is a very serious force. And the fleet? And the fleet. All the rest of NATO is nothing more than cannon fodder that the Americans will chase ahead of themselves. Well, the Turks still, but about them below.

Moreover, we note that the idea of ​​hostilities on the territory of Europe will not enter into one Euroheader. Two lessons were enough to realize the simple truth - they will demolish everything. Who is the third or fourth question, but they remember the example of Yugoslavia there. And this, we note, the showdown was of a local character, without Russians. And it was more than enough to restore everything for so many years. And with our participation, it is quite predictable that the show will be saturated with special effects that no other European lawyer will be happy to see. The ending is all the more famous. The whole world is in dust.

And the Americans do not know how, and do not want to fight on their territory. They, too, would be far away from aircraft carriers and axes. And here begins the most interesting.

No one wants military action on their territory. Yes, perhaps, many would like to once again try to make war in Russia. However, there is a problem. With a territory. Not only is big, how to carry everything you need today for a full-fledged war? Yes, and taking into account that it will be difficult to do?

So the possibility of an attack on us, we somehow generally set aside.

Probably in the West as well think. So you have to look.

We must look for an idiot who is not against unleashing on the adjacent territory if not a world war, that a regional disgrace has been found. Looking for a long time, but here - Recep Erdogan. With all that it implies. And the place is wow, and there is a reason. But the car obviously reduces turns.

Not from Turkey, no. It's all on the script, cheerfully bitten bit, a military ass with a roar goes on the attack on the Kurds. From the crowd and the audience from time to time there are shouts "Right now, we will come too!" ... and while silence. Nobody goes beyond words.

And why not?

Because fools are less and less in the world. And the smart ones are beginning to understand that the test for ferro content of Putin’s testicles may well end up with broken dishes in the kitchen. In his, we note the kitchen. And its own kitchen - even if Erdogan is three times there, he will be right - she has her own in Germany and in other countries too.

Therefore, apparently, the American aircraft carriers loose around anywhere, just not in the waters near Syria. Meaning? If the war with the Papuans, which are easy to roll out with the help of ship-borne aviation, and then launch the armored rifle on the Abrams is a completely run-in scenario.

But who wants to look for adventure, when there are already C-400, which really give a chance to have time to press the button of the catapult? And the plus is still not caught up with the MiG-21 or 23, but quite modern planes that can do any F?

Not an American script, you know?

And not European. It's one thing to hang out in Afghanistan or Iraq behind the backs of the Americans, even Ukrainian warriors were honored to do that, but this is completely different.

So you can hear from NATO, which without the US, some recommendations on the topic "Recep, you, of course, are ours, but you would understand yourself." From sin away. And somehow, besides the already mentioned army of Ukraine, which is the fifth in Europe, no one else shouted joyful cries on the topic "Right now we are piling on everyone!" Brains, by and large, work fine.

There is nobody to fight in Europe.

The situation in Syria is very, very difficult. And where to go, while predicting is not easy. But so far only one thing is clearly visible: about the third, and even more so, the fourth world war, it’s too early to shout. You can talk, you can argue. Scream early.

What Erdogan is doing now is, of course, unpleasant and disturbing. And for our in Syria restless. But no one promised a walk on the Papuans in the American style. Of course, it would be nice, but that did not happen. It turned out the enemy behind. But this is not a world war.

Yes, we are not ready for large-scale actions in the rank of a world war. But our "partners", more precisely, potential adversaries, are not ready even more than we are. What really show the latest political events.
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  1. +34
    15 February 2016 06: 56
    You can never be ready for war. Just as you can not be ready for the tsunami, which will smash into a pile of houses and kill a lot of people. And all these analyzes are complete nonsense. But you can be stronger than your opponents. And you can win too. And now we are in this state, it seems to me.
    1. +14
      15 February 2016 07: 32
      In principle, they are ready for the Third World War. There is a nuclear weapon!

      Therefore, I believe that there will be no Third World War.

      There will be economic and regional wars.
      1. +16
        15 February 2016 08: 06
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        There is a nuclear weapon!

        Therefore, I believe that there will be no Third World War.

        Now, if we attack nuclear weapons, then World War Four will definitely not soldier
        1. +15
          15 February 2016 10: 03
          If nuclear weapons go into operation. “I don’t know what weapons the third world war will be, but the fourth with sticks and stones” - Albert Einstein.
          1. +3
            15 February 2016 10: 53
            so it’s so clear ... if the pin ... dos president black monkey ...
          2. +3
            15 February 2016 13: 33
            Quote: xoma58
            If nuclear weapons go into operation.

            It depends on which strategic or tactical? We can quite apply tactical. Even worth applying!
            1. +1
              16 February 2016 13: 19
              yeah, and then go prove that it was a miserable ten kilotons.
              NF is a doomsday weapon and it can be used only when EVERYTHING, shovels are washed!

              we will not talk about it, because This is a philosophical question.

              this phrase is extremely incorrect:
              But if anything, take the main blow to the "oldies" Su-27, MiG-29, MiG-31. Albeit modernized

              Firstly, the quantity of combat-ready equipment is not known. I mean from the oldies, but more importantly quite another:

              it’s a pity not for the old people - planes, but for the pilots who will fight on them.
              They are much more expensive than airplanes. I'm sorry that I value a person’s life, but in a war it’s impossible otherwise and everyone will turn to this assessment.

              at the expense of training the NATO countries and syshya: yes, Europe has degraded extremely in terms of its armed forces, but only because they are used to the initiative of the states to solve all problems for them. It is undeniable that the countries of Europe are quite rich and technologically advanced, which will make it possible to transfer the economy to a war footing. And do not compare the timing of how the countries of Europe merged the Reich: this was the whole theater.
              This applies to all tales that the Yankees can only bomb the Papuans.
              Yes, they have their own problems, but their aircraft are an order of magnitude more powerful than ours.
              In World War II, we pulled the enemy into our territory, stretching the supply routes for him, disrupting communications. Now these paths do not play such important roles, because you can easily iron the country for 2000-3000 km. from her. Yes, the damage will not be fatal, but quite enough for itself, so that later the "iron cavalry" on the Abrams will complete the job.
              I’m even afraid to think that a world war will begin with our participation. In principle, there can be no war without our participation, because the goal will not be achieved.

              And if we compare the healthy generation of the USSR at the beginning of the war and our current one, then there is generally trouble. I don’t want to offend anyone, but most people have a terrible 90s scar on their fates, health, the gene pool as a whole. Many will not be able to catch up 2-3 times on the horizontal bar, beer / cigarette every day is the norm. Chewing gum, jeans, McDonald's played a role. So God forbid !!!! Losses of 20-30 million will be fatal. recourse
              So you need to at any cost push your thoughts about the war, transfer it to another plane, that at the worst end get out of the fray, substitute China, I personally do not care, but our country can no longer expose itself to such a risk. JUST NOT NOW !!!!!
              1. 0
                20 February 2016 12: 59
                Shooting at 2000 km is possible, of course, but the question of economic feasibility is too expensive even for the United States. In addition, firing at Russian territories with non-nuclear Tomogavkas is obviously not deadly, too many objects + some amount of air defense will be destroyed. And then, in the old fashioned way, infantry has legs .. Given the fact that even in the Baltic states they didn’t like logistics, what to say about our open spaces ...
                And then the most interesting- And what is the GOAL of the war against the Russian Federation? The capture of the territory? Hitler was no longer ridiculous; Hitler captured and was forced to keep a significant part of the Wehrmacht on guard of the conquered, helped him no. Change GDP? For this, again, at least infantry must enter the Russian Federation ..
                And then there’s nuclear weapons ... and God forbid we break out into Europe?
                So I think, economically, we will spread rot, no more than that, purely on the basis of economic feasibility ....
        2. +2
          15 February 2016 20: 30
          be sure to bang (DMB)
      2. +4
        15 February 2016 11: 23
        .. the essence of war is in economics. and war is a change in methods and means of achieving economic goals ....
        .. who escalates the threat of the 3rd world .. are already doing their job .. create fear and chaos. and thereby solve their economic problems ... They create CHAOS there and in those regions of the world where there is something to profit from ... at the expense of wealth of these regions and countries and the reduction (destruction) of their economies as competing ...
    2. +3
      15 February 2016 09: 43
      Quote: Sensatus
      And all these analyzes are complete nonsense.

      One gets the impression that the authors of these "analyzes" can't wait for it to start! request
      1. +18
        15 February 2016 10: 50
        You can compare the quantity and quality of weapons, the state of the economy of countries for a long time. However, there are several questions that analysts must answer: Are you ready to go to war? Bear hardships and difficulties at the forefront? Are you ready to kill the enemy? - answer first of all to yourself, and not to the public!
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        2. +1
          15 February 2016 20: 56
          The answer to the public: It depends on what, for our "top" in the person of the Serdyukovs and Chubais, Sobchak and Rynsku, for nothing and not at all. If the Supreme Power as in 1937. will really prove that she is with the people, for the people and for the people, then yes. If we had the same government in 1941 as it is now, you will forgive me of course, but hell would anyone go with 1 Molotov cocktail for three German tanks. And so even people who may have sincerely disliked "Soviet power" performed feats, because they understood what they were fighting for and understood that the overwhelming majority of the whole country was fighting, including representatives of the ruling elite. Now this in our kingdom - the state and does not smell.
        3. -1
          16 February 2016 00: 38
          How do you reason one-sidedly ... The question is not that everyone should answer to himself about his readiness to fight. The question is in mentality and education. Thank God, the Gay European and Pi'ndossian "values" did not take root, just as they have not tried to plant them lately. The same example with elderly relatives - compare the number of people "handed over" to nursing homes in our country and in theirs. Apart from the children, they have a shit at the age of 16; for the rest of their lives, children are treated to help, even if they do not need it. And this, IMHO, is the most important thing: in Russia they will tear, like a tuzik a heating pad, anyone who encroaches on relatives. You will not go to tear anyone's throat for a daughter, son, father, mother? And 99% will go, not for those in power. This is what the "tolerants" could never understand in Russians, and therefore they always raked to the fullest ...
      2. +2
        15 February 2016 16: 05
        Visis pasem para bellum
    3. +10
      15 February 2016 10: 25
      Moreover, if the USSR would approach the beginning of World War I to the same degree of readiness,
      not a weak statement where the USSR is, but where the First World War!
      1. +1
        15 February 2016 20: 59
        Without industrialization and "five-year plans" the USSR would have approached the second world exactly like the Russian Empire to the first. And here I am more than sure that before the Urals, at least, now the "Aryans" would hang out.
    4. +5
      15 February 2016 10: 51
      Quote: Sensatus
      You can never be ready for war. Just as you can not be ready for the tsunami, which will smash into a pile of houses and kill a lot of people. And all these analyzes are complete nonsense. But you can be stronger than your opponents. And you can win too. And now we are in this state, it seems to me.

      Only the aggressor is ready for war, because he attacks when the last button is fastened. And our preparation process is endless.
    5. +12
      15 February 2016 11: 04
      Quote: Sensatus
      You can never be ready for war.

      Yes, we are not ready for large-scale actions in the rank of world war. But our "partners"
      (c) Roman Skomorokhov, Alexander Staver

      ... generals, as everyone is preparing for past wars ... :)

      In fact, the situation in the yard is no better than 41.
      More precisely on the 39th. "Nobody wanted to fight" ...
      Even Hitler on two fronts. Do you have it now? Like new-violent, it seems to be in the form of a fart. However, the whole story is repeated twice. In the last time - like a farce.

      But nonetheless...
      It is not the armada of tank wedges and flocks of heavenly vultures that threaten us. Their glory to God, it does not seem to be.
      But what will happen?
      Hybrid warfare. She already goes. While at the far frontier.
      But the militants, bandits, dushmans ... or "partisans" from the lips of the libertas are already in prepared positions.
      Where?
      We look carefully:
      -in almost every yard (janitors, cleaners ... and even plumbers).
      - at construction markets
      Look, look - recently unshaven with goatee beards among them have become more frequent.
      In addition, the local appear-disappear ...
      Are we ready to fight this?
      Take away no!
      Only Ramzan is doing something ...
      1. +3
        15 February 2016 13: 24
        Quote: Rus2012
        Are we ready to fight this?
        Take away no!

        Developing your idea, we can conclude that there will be no war ... There will be local conflicts either Ukraine or Syria. And these conflicts do not touch the peoples of the countries that will participate in these conflicts. Somewhere far the military for money (salary) will play war games, and the rest stupidly pay for these games and funerals?
        Something does not stick together. In particular, the new NATO bases around our country ... Why? If there will be limited contingents fighting in the distance?
        1. +4
          15 February 2016 14: 20
          Quote: domokl
          In particular, new NATO bases around our country ... Why?

          ... I hope that the 3,14ndodic way of waging wars is familiar to you - first by any means and methods to weaken the state (sanctions, embargoes, color revolutions, adventures of the 5 columns ...) and only then the invasion and occupation.
          Regarding Russia - this whole set is still only at the initial stage, do not find.
          1. +3
            15 February 2016 16: 45
            Quote: Rus2012
            - this whole set is only at the initial stage, don’t find it.

            I don’t find ... In my opinion, from the moment I become a human being, I hear about American bases around the USSR, then Russia. Sanctions? Maybe they weren’t called so, but they were always there too. Well, the rest under socialism was perfectly extinguished by specialists.
            There are not many countries in the world that really decide something. And this list is more or less constant. there are just periods when some of them seem to get a little stronger. That's all
            1. +1
              16 February 2016 09: 43
              Quote: domokl
              Well, the rest under socialism was perfectly extinguished by specialists.


              If it were perfectly extinguished, then there would be no collapse of the country. And also the wild massacre of Russians in Dushanbe, Sumgait, Tbilisi, Karabakh, Baku, it was all in the USSR.
      2. +7
        15 February 2016 13: 54
        Quote: Rus2012
        militants, bandits, dushmans ... or "partisans"

        In Russia, the same is being done as in Europe. There, the reception of "refugees", it is not clear where such kindness comes from, we have "labor migrants", why do we need them. Everywhere a bomb of the same design is being planted, "good Muslims", just waiting in the wings. Willingness is supported by special people in each jamaat. Take a closer look at the heads: cut ears, the presence of beards without a mustache, beads, a domineering look ...
        1. +7
          15 February 2016 14: 32
          Quote: Uncle
          Take a closer look

          ... what are we talking about!
          They are already everywhere and nearby.
          Even if among the patriots of VO from all over the Russian Federation, let's say you can collect a good battalion and send it somewhere to hold the defense. These basmachi are already in the rear.

          We do not have a territorial militia, those who could "keep" the courtyard-quarter-area - in case of a flock of Wahhabis. And they could, for example, if self-defense associations were organized "on the ground", including the entrance (group) - house (department) - quarter (platoon-company). At least on the principles of the "paintball fans" club (which are ex-territorial). Starting from the district - there would already be schemes for access to serious equipment-weapons for the "H" time.
        2. +2
          15 February 2016 17: 48
          Why do we need labor migrants? Well, let's kick everyone out of the country! And on construction sites and other facilities requiring heavy physical labor we will attract ZK!
          With our education, upbringing, attitude towards society, life, and the state, we plant bombs for ourselves, without the help of migrants ...
        3. +1
          15 February 2016 17: 49
          * expel, typo turned out
    6. +4
      15 February 2016 18: 16
      and I will tell you who is not ready for this war at all, and who a priori cannot be stronger: the grown generation of office planktonin, ready to sell the mother for a new iPhone. and until this "confusion and vacillation" disappears, there are not many chances of victory. these "lemmings" will stick a knife in the back of their own defenders. you don't have to go far for an example - Ukraine, Maidan.
  2. +11
    15 February 2016 07: 17
    Interesting is NATO.

    It’s entirely Russophobes, but everyone prefers that someone else fought, and somewhere away.

    Everyone, in an influx of happiness, half-open their mouths, look at Pen.do.siya. Pin.dos.nya, on the contrary, is arming - anyway, someone else, somewhere out there, has fought; they themselves want to come to get ready, as it was before.

    Only the irresponsible remain - Turkey and completely decayed Ukraine. There is no hope for the puppeteers in Ukraine - the maximum that the eggs are ready for there is to provoke, and if Russia suddenly responds, they immediately run away, form a government in exile and beg for food.

    Turkey is in a bad environment. Allies, except for those nominal for NATO-not to be seen. Around the Kurds - and in Iraq and Syria, and on their own territory. There is no doubt that they can make a big shake. ISIS around. Erdogan cannot think that if he bought ISIL oil, then the igilates will refuse, if possible, will also be deployed on Turkish territory. Bulgarians are not friends, not to mention the Greeks. He quarreled with Russia. Iran is a complete enemy.
    1. +5
      15 February 2016 07: 20
      Dogs know that the one who gets to us first will be destroyed with 100% probability.
      1. +5
        15 February 2016 08: 54
        Quote: Darkness
        Dogs know that the one who gets to us first will be destroyed with 100% probability.

        The key words are "to us" ... And if to Syria? For example, they will start, or rather continue - they have already started a little - the Turks will hammer the Syrians - with art, aviation, the troops will pull up. And what will happen then? How will ours answer?
        What will happen if the test for "the ferrous content of Putin's testicles" will be carried out not by the United States, not by the Europeans, but by the Turks and the Saudis?
        Not an American script, you know?

        Of course, not American! But not Russian either.
        There’s not enough strength to fight Turkey in Syria - this theater is too far away, the transport shoulder is uncomfortable, the straits in this case will be closed, but you won’t deliver much by air. And opening a front against Turkey from one’s territory - even aviation - is fraught with an uncontrolled escalation of the conflict. Russia itself will trample Turkey itself, there is no doubt, only NATO will not remain aloof in this case. And it’s dangerous to provoke a world carnage. Nobody wants nuclear war. True, it can begin because no one wants to concede. World War I example.
        Or will the matter be limited to a mutual "test for the ferrous content of the testicles"? bully God forbid!
        1. 0
          15 February 2016 10: 12
          Quote: andj61
          "ferrous content of Putin's testicles"

          Choi, I begin to doubt the presence of ferroalloys in the bells of the Supreme. All of today's oil paintings look like the inclusion of a reverse gear in front of the powers that be, I’m not saying that he is doing with people of non-capital origin ... Dimon, this morning, already in full demanded the lifting of sanctions from overseas hosts. In short, it seems that once again this couple raped us.
          1. +5
            15 February 2016 14: 02
            I can’t understand why Putin still keeps this "Dimona"? After all, it has long been clear that in the place of the Prime Minister there is an empty place, and not only empty, but also insufficiently adequate! Is it not enough to Putin nastiness and nonsense that this instance has done? And continues to do!
            1. +4
              15 February 2016 15: 59
              ..there is not only "dimon", there are still a lot of all "friends" and not only in the government, Chubais and Serdyukov, the most read, and not many printed, and all of your own ... you can't touch ... say ..
        2. +4
          15 February 2016 10: 12
          Quote: andj61
          only NATO will not be left out in this case either.

          NATO? The only state (apart from Turkey) in NATO that is at least something of a military nature is the United States. This is what concerns the long-range war. All other countries are either technical members (providing their territory for bases, in exchange for security), or constitute a "buffer zone" around Russia.
          1. +3
            15 February 2016 16: 19
            Come on ?! That is, there are no combat-ready units either in Great Britain or in Germany or in France? Is the attitude too condescending? I am sure that in other NATO countries there will be pros in the brigade division, apart from special forces. You don’t especially throw hats.
            1. 0
              19 February 2016 12: 37
              In addition to the fact that Germany and Britain will have units, they should also have a desire to throw these units to certain death, they must have a desire to draw their borders somewhere, and they must have a desire to guarantee their territories are under attack. Of course, they are dependent on the United States, and in many matters the instinct of self-preservation refuses them. But not in such a direct way.
        3. +4
          15 February 2016 12: 47
          The main reason for the First World War, the redistribution of colonies between the leading Colonial powers! Basically between England and Germany, each wanted to chop off the best pieces from the opponent. And Russia didn’t need it. Since their territory was heaped up, in addition, after the Russo-Japanese war, Korea and Manchuria were lost, + the CER found itself on the territory of China, which was derailed by our western "allies" and Japan, pushing Russia away from the pie and squeezing us out to the northern parts of the Far, less favorable for development. East. The Russo-Japanese War greatly affected the development of this region. So we got into the World War by necessity and by agreement with "partners" who, if it was profitable for them, complied with the agreements, and when not, they spit on them. In the First World War, Russia acted as "cheap meat", having received a revolution and the loss of territories, being thrown back for 30 years in its development from the pre-revolutionary level and for a long time dropping out of all European and World layouts, as well as carving up new territories in the Pacific theater of military action.
      2. 0
        15 February 2016 10: 38
        They have already climbed to "us".
        Otherwise, how to interpret the events in the Donbass, where the Russians are being destroyed?
        Former granary of the entire Russian Empire.
        And in other places they will climb in the same way, tearing off the "square" pieces by the forces of the internal purchased elite.
    2. +5
      15 February 2016 07: 29
      anyway, someone else, somewhere out there, fought; they themselves want to come to get ready, as it was before.
      So they always did that - they pushed Russia with their strongest neighbor: in 1914 with Germany, in 1941 with Germany, now with Turkey. War must be carried over the ocean
    3. -1
      15 February 2016 10: 00
      Quote: Gormengast
      Interesting is NATO.

      NATO is actually something virtual.
      No, to sit at various meetings and yell at the enemy of Russia: - of course they can. And they can also serve US troops in Europe quite well. But that is actually all that NATO is capable of.
      The first big broads, in Europe and NATO will not, just scatter, Europe lived too long without a war and really do not want to part with a full life.
      1. 0
        15 February 2016 18: 05
        Are you crazy? NATO is a real military force superior to us in terms of firepower, whether we want it or not ...
        1. 0
          15 February 2016 19: 30
          Quote: saper2463
          Are you crazy? NATO is a real military force

          And in more detail can ?? What exactly is NATO without penalties, surpasses Russia in power.
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  3. 0
    15 February 2016 07: 21
    It is somehow strange to put Brusilov and Kolchak on a par.
    1. +6
      15 February 2016 07: 41
      What's so strange? Brusilov is a talented commander, Kolchak is a talented naval commander, without his well-placed mine cans, there would be no naval bases in the Baltic.
    2. +5
      15 February 2016 07: 42
      Quote: Darkness
      It is somehow strange to put Brusilov and Kolchak on a par.

      If in the framework of the First World War - completely. Each was worthy in its place. The Brusilovsky breakthrough is an outstanding event in the history of that war, but not so much another breakthrough that was broken by the will of our allies (incidentally, as in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-78) was not so well-known: Yudenich’s ears and Kolchak’s from the sea, which would lead to the capture of the Straits and the establishment of the centuries-old Russian dream of Constantinople. Turkey could be done away with in 1916, but it did not grow together.
    3. 0
      15 February 2016 20: 40
      Quote: Darkness
      It is somehow strange to put Brusilov and Kolchak on a par.


      It’s also strange to blame the Bolsheviks for the collapse of Russia. In general, the article is very good - but with this one point I can not agree

      Russia was destroyed by the liberals. A provisional government was created. They overthrew the king. Then - when the Bolsheviks took power - they called themselves "whites". Now many people understand. that the "whites" were not at all for the "king"

      And the IVS to 1939 again became king, defeating the bastards (I’m sorry - I can’t find another word about them) of the Trotskyites and others like them
  4. -10
    15 February 2016 07: 21
    If there is a world war, it will not be a world war and not with the participation of Russia. Recent years have shown that with such a power there is no need to conflict with Russia at all, but no one bothers to arrange a show. This is just a raw-material colony, saturated with corruption, devoid of all potential in anything, the ability to develop and compete, with the controlled SM, they feed the people (who are not considered people, painting the image of an external enemy. Currently, Russia is doing black work in Syria instead of The United States, while simultaneously relieving the United States of responsibility for the flows of refugees and "refugees" to Europe... This is just one American show, and Putin is a local showman, TV presenter. Speech pushes, something seems to be happening, but for the country there has been nothing for 20 years Anyway, you need to have a dozen clones so that someone has time to work while other clones flaunt in front of the cameras. There is no conflict between the US and Russia. There is the US and many puppet governments around the world. It would not be so, it would not be would have a dollar for a long time, and the model of the economy in the flawed form in which it is now.
    1. +24
      15 February 2016 07: 57
      You fool around! Go west to see how stupid people are for example in the USA. Work for the good of the Russian people at least 2-3 hours a week and read more that the Western press writes about Russia. It will become clear that Russia is defending its vital interests!
      Sorry for the mistakes, I'm Georgian and have been living in America for a long time.
      1. +1
        15 February 2016 21: 47
        Probably Zadornov, with his "stupid" Americans have heard enough .. They are really strong smart and consider themselves "the center of the Earth", and as soon as they are sure of ABSOLUTE impunity, then there will be Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq together. And so that conscience does not bother, they are already successfully forming an opinion. Where are the carriers of absolute evil
        "
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    3. +7
      15 February 2016 08: 36
      Quote: Valery 1966
      <..... Currently, Russia is doing dirty work in Syria instead of the United States, while simultaneously relieving the United States of responsibility for the flows of refugees and "refugees" to Europe. ... It's just one American show, and Putin is a local showman, TV presenter .....>.


      There was such a childish tongue twister: "I am a little boy with filticulitis, I can filticulate and overfilter."

      Here is a guy who has become very successful: Putin is a US puppet. Strong move ....
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      2. +16
        15 February 2016 10: 26
        Quote: hrapon
        Putin is a US puppet. Strong move ....

        The man got excited. But there are very disturbing calls: Does such a surname Chubais tell you nothing? Theft and corruption in power? Were Serdyukov-taburetkin and his litter Vasiliev severely punished? Is the central bank private? Sale of state corporations? Raw export nature of the economy? Monstrous stratification of society by property criterion?
        In the event of a more or less serious conflict, what industrial potential will we rely on?
        (In my hometown, on the site of the Soviet workshops, mostly either shopping and entertainment centers or wastelands with a swan)
        Is food safety all right, will the country's population be able to feed on their products?
        1. +1
          15 February 2016 10: 53
          Is food safety all right, will the country's population be able to feed on their products?

          It can be easy if you stop fooling around, take loans for all kinds of crap, take shovels and rakes and go in your free time to open the land like in Soviet times and before.
          I agree with the rest.
        2. +2
          15 February 2016 13: 33
          Do not you think that the population of our country is being destroyed with the help of products with GMOs? Seeds are produced by those American chemists who destroyed their land during the Vietnam War. In addition, they are not reproducible, which means this is another needle. I am afraid that the world is moving towards a golden billion. Please do not minus, but explain if anyone is in the know. And another question - was Trotsky a US citizen? By the way, chicken eggs, which the patriots are proud of, seem to be bought in Germany.
    4. 0
      15 February 2016 14: 32
      How does this change nothing in the country, here you are, sitting in a chair, on the Internet, crap and crap, and 20 years ago what did you do? Stupidly pick your nose or earn on a computer?
      Putin - US puppet - stupid season!
      1. +5
        15 February 2016 14: 50
        Quote: Serge Boss
        How does this change nothing in the country, here you are, sitting in a chair, on the Internet, crap and crap, and 20 years ago what did you do? Stupidly pick your nose or earn on a computer?
        Putin - US puppet - stupid season!

        20 years ago, I worked as a locksmith in an enterprise that was of all-Union significance in the USSR. now he is gone. And, yes, the computer appeared in the 91 year. I played toys on it. laughing
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        2. +2
          15 February 2016 18: 21
          Excuse the Boss if you answered Valera. I didn’t get it right away. And corruption got it. In the 19 century, Ivan tea was banned in Russia under the pretext that it was sold in tea houses instead of Indian. But our tea was exported to Europe. And all this was done to please the Naglosaks. And by the way, our tea is much healthier than Indian, or Chinese. During the war, he helped out great. Headache helps, by the way. hi
    5. 0
      20 February 2016 13: 15
      As a result of WWII, only the United States had gold, so the dollar goes .. Hitler would have won the USA (imagine), and the USSR would have stayed aside, the ruble would have gone ..
  5. 0
    15 February 2016 07: 27
    And especially when the S-300 is replaced by the S-350


    Question to the author: typo or what?
    1. +2
      15 February 2016 09: 50
      Quote: aszzz888
      Question to the author: typo or what?

      Or how - 350 sticks harder! laughing
    2. +3
      15 February 2016 10: 47
      Quote: aszzz888
      And especially when the S-300 is replaced by the S-350


      Question to the author: typo or what?

      No, not a typo ... request
      S-350 Vityaz is a new generation Russian medium-range anti-aircraft missile system.
      It is planned that Vityaz will replace the S-300PS and Buk-M1-M2 in the coming years ...

      The Vityaz air defense system consists of the 50X6A self-propelled launcher, the 50X6A multi-functional radar and the 50X6A combat control station, located on a four-axle BAZ chassis.
      The ammunition consists of 12 SAM with ARGSN, presumably 9M96 / 9M96E (from S-400 air defense systems) and / or 9M100.
  6. +7
    15 February 2016 07: 28
    "... And it lost not only a huge part of its territory, but also its weight on the world stage. But for this, thanks to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin)."
    Are you the author of Alexander II the Liberator somehow ignored, probably forgotten? And after the Great Patriotic War, please remind in which countries the troops of the USSR stood? Let me remind you just in case, even where the Russian Empire did not have them - in Germany
    1. Erg
      +4
      15 February 2016 09: 30
      How cleverly the author, having mentioned Leiba and Vova, took us away from the real instigators of the First World War. And "revolution." It's like blaming Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk in the Maidan.
  7. MMX
    +7
    15 February 2016 07: 35
    It’s ridiculous to talk about NATO troops who are ready for something serious, if you don’t mean the US Army. Yes, the American army is a very serious force. And the fleet? And the fleet. All the rest of NATO is nothing more than cannon fodder that the Americans will chase ahead of themselves. Well, the Turks still, but about them below.


    I read up to this point and dropped it. In my opinion, there is no need to talk about the seriousness of the article where such "conclusions" are made.
    1. 0
      15 February 2016 18: 09
      Phew, finally an adequate comment on an inadequate article. I already thought that everything went crazy in VO
  8. +6
    15 February 2016 07: 37
    But thanks for this to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin)...And we won't thank the Central Ukrainian Rada? With which Kerensky tried to negotiate ... The Central Rada was formed immediately after the February Revolution. On January 27 (February 9), 1918, representatives of the Central Rada signed a separate peace treaty with Germany and Austria-Hungary in Brest-Litovsk, on the basis of which Ukraine was occupied Austro-German troops. Trotsky, of course, a special "thank you" for his neither peace, nor war, the army to dissolve ..
    1. Erg
      -1
      15 February 2016 09: 40
      Everything falls into place as soon as we put Lenin and Kerensky on the same team. The creditors are alone ... The picture immediately becomes clear, and we see that both the February and October "revolutions" were stages of a single plan. Do not forget 1905 (an attempt or a rehearsal?), Where the same provocateurs with "cookies" from Parvus (Morgana, Baruchi, etc.), shooting at the people and at the soldiers. The result is a destroyed state. It reminds me of something ... hi
  9. +4
    15 February 2016 07: 43
    Third World on the doorstep. Are we ready? - I’m ready from birth, my family has fought so for all generations, are you ready?
    1. +1
      15 February 2016 11: 40
      And even practiced)))
    2. +4
      15 February 2016 13: 35
      soldier There is still a vest on his chests to tear off and that’s all ... Hooray, we are breaking ... I also thought that I was the last .. It turned out that there was a war for my son too .. I think there would be a grandson ... But I don’t feel like it .
  10. +4
    15 February 2016 07: 52
    But the Turks will strike at the Syrian troops, and not at the Russians and begin to iron them out of what is. What will Putin do?
    1. -2
      15 February 2016 08: 34
      Quote: aleks700
      What will Putin do?

      The Russian Foreign Ministry, represented by Lavrov, "will express serious concern about what is happening" ....
      PS by the way, quite a while ago, I didn’t push the cart’s GDP .. Medvedko all stigmatizes the West angrily, what’s it for?
      1. 0
        15 February 2016 09: 33
        The Russian Foreign Ministry, represented by Lavrov, "will express serious concern about what is happening" ....
        Oppa! So in the case of attacks on the Syrian troops will require the convening of a UN session.
    2. +2
      15 February 2016 11: 41
      And there you can’t make out. The Turks will fall under the distribution of love ...
    3. +2
      15 February 2016 11: 57
      Quote: aleks700
      But the Turks will strike at the Syrian troops, and not at the Russians and begin to iron them out of what is. What will Putin do?


      Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to use against it or allies nuclear or non-nuclear weapons, the military doctrine, approved by the president of the Russian Federation and posted on the Kremlin website, says.

      http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20141226/1040317907.html#ixzz40E1copiC
  11. +12
    15 February 2016 07: 59
    Dreaming is not harmful. harmful not to dream! People living in the past are doomed to failure. For example tanks. The first war, when the troops dug in the trenches, wrapped in barbed wire. they set up bunkers, then tanks appeared. In the second war, tanks as a mobile means of encirclement. Now, as the Kiev-Donetsk war showed, a tank is a crematorium on tracks. To destroy the USSR, neither tanks, nor planes, nor ships were needed.
    Knee-high inserts can say anything. But the country where foreign culture is propagated, the foreign language is not free. Where giggling, albeit in brackets, but calling the enemies partners, they are not free.
    1. +1
      15 February 2016 13: 40
      crying Yes, stop it ... What is the planting of an alien culture? If we cannot make the same film as the Americans, then this is not a question for consumers, but for the creators. Today, access to cultural works can be limited only by the Korean version. In any other case, people will consume the product that suits them best (like).
      And about the language and stuff, excuse me, generally nonsense. How can one prepare for clashes with some enemy without knowing his language, strategy, tactical tricks, way of thinking at last?
      1. 0
        15 February 2016 18: 59
        How can one prepare for clashes with some enemy without knowing his language, strategy, tactical tricks, way of thinking at last?
        So, all these menagers. volatility, transparency, volunteers, do we need for the concept of the language of a potential adversary? And then we are good, we have no enemies, only partners. Over the past few days, Russia has climbed into NATO already peeps.
        About films and culture. The film is about a forester (carpenter, beekeeper, milkman) who catches criminals for days on end. Yesterday there was a loot - a holiday. For only he is mentioned by all means a week before. and after. It is easy to sell what is untwisted. Therefore, Santa is now called Santa Claus, but they put on caps. And there is nothing to limit to educate the generation of consumers. they themselves will not read Tolstoy.
  12. +21
    15 February 2016 07: 59
    Just in the second world country, it was ready for war, and the matter was not even in new types of weapons, tanks and aircraft, the main thing was that the country's population was ready to fight for the world's first state of workers and peasants. The ideological component that allowed mobilizing a huge number of ready-to-fight people not from a stick, like in the first world war, but really realizing that you are giving your life for a unique state that has never been equal to the world, that's why there are a lot of volunteers and a mass partisan movement in the occupied territories. And present-day Russia is a tracing-paper with pre-revolutionary, a few real patriots will last for the first few months of the war, professional patriots will scribble articles in the rear and sit on zucchini, and the mass of this war will not rest and it’s violet like surname of the owner of the factory in which he plows.
    1. +5
      15 February 2016 16: 37
      In addition to the ideology, the Second World War also had a mass secondary education superior to that of the enemy (tenth graders won the war) and mass training along the lines of DOSAAF and Osoviahim. Now there is neither one nor the other, as there is no very important component: maintaining a high level of reserve professionalism. In the West, it is accessible to the masses because of its cheapness.
      1. +2
        15 February 2016 18: 20
        alas, dear, "mass secondary education" appeared only in 1956.
        Before the Second World War, the initial 4-grade education was massive, the seven-year plan was considered not a complete secondary. For training in grades 8-10 had to reap. True, the amounts were not significant.
        1. 0
          15 February 2016 18: 29
          Perhaps ... all the same, the average level of education was higher.
  13. +1
    15 February 2016 08: 06
    The situation in Syria is very, very difficult. And where to go, while predicting is not easy. But so far only one thing is clearly visible: about the third, and even more so, the fourth world war, it’s too early to shout. You can talk, you can argue. Scream early.
    It would not be too late.
  14. +12
    15 February 2016 08: 10
    Well, how well everything is planned! The beauty! War is coming, but it won’t be, like there are few fools ...
    And, therefore, everyone goes to the front of the fight against reptiles, "an armored train on a siding", sit, wait ...
    Here the current manenko spoils the inner beauty, let's call it mildly, state ... Shitty, frankly, state. "They steal" with .. "And more and more. And they steal not only directly, but also through laws and regulations. From the poor, from pensioners, from children." Crisis! " Where?
    I feel and the like, but for "ility", depukakiks of all stripes with millennial wipes, also "crisis"? I doubt even I ...
    And so, so as not to doubt, they inject me with urapatriotism with armored trains in the pantry ...
    On the TV, they completely stopped gunding about internal problems - the current Ukraine, Syria, ISIS (an organization banned by the Russian Federation), and also "enemies are all around !!!!" Soon they will start screaming even louder - elections are coming! And the depukakiks are all completely patriotic condos and thin-skinned (albeit with grandmas and houses over the hill, but this is so, among other things ...). I will be a bastard, the upcoming elections will be the dirtiest and ugliest - power must be retained at any cost! And under the pretext of patriotism to rip off your people even more.
    1. +8
      15 February 2016 08: 29
      And you know, maybe you are right about Depukak, but there are no doubts about the fact that there are enemies around. Western elites are very actively trying to bark and they pathologically hate the Russian people. So it is necessary to survive the next 2-3 years and help the homeland and in the west also a crisis, and if they cannot break Russia in 2-3 years, they will fall apart !! I myself feel every day!
      1. +2
        15 February 2016 09: 01
        So "to survive? And when to live? I have little left to live ... 60 years all survived.
        Parents survived, now the children will be. They will wait for someone to fall apart
        and LIVE !!!! Finally, it's not funny ...
        1. +3
          15 February 2016 09: 20
          And the rulers of the West do not give you life. And they do it with propaganda and with the help of traitors, those who mocked the Soviet Union and seichyas over the Russian Federation.
          What is happening in Georgia? In Ukraine? Why is there a poor person? This is not from the west? Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Saakashvili, Central Asian dictators, all kinds of oligarchs, liberals, did they destroy the Soviet peoples without the help of the West?
        2. +1
          15 February 2016 13: 46
          Quote: fake
          So "to survive? And when to live?"

          What are you missing? Own a yacht like Abramovich? Your football club? Or cottages in the Bahamas? Interestingly, share your Wishlist with the people.
        3. +3
          15 February 2016 14: 51
          Quote: fake
          All survived for 60 years.

          But I did not survive the first 25 years, I lived very well, until the country marked by it broke up.
    2. +1
      15 February 2016 13: 43
      Quote: fake
      the upcoming elections will be the dirtiest and ugliest -

      laughing Tell me the choices about which then they would not say these words ... Let the loser cry ... Not I said ... The ancients ...
  15. +3
    15 February 2016 08: 14
    NATO soldiers go to the army for a salary and "benefits" and is looking for because they have no better clearance. if they know they have a 20% chance of dying, they will not fight.
  16. +6
    15 February 2016 08: 23
    For those who still believe Soros history textbooks, regarding the decline of Russia before World War I:
    Under Nicholas II, Russia was experiencing an unprecedented period of material prosperity. On the eve of World War I, its economy flourished and grew from the fastest pace in the world from 1894 to 1914.
    At the beginning of the twentieth century, the growth of the national economy of Russia led to an increase in social wealth and well-being of the population.
    For 1894-1914, the state budget of the country grew 5,5 times, the gold reserve - 3,7 times. The Russian currency was one of the strongest in the world.
    At the same time, government revenues grew without the slightest increase in the tax burden. Direct taxes in Russia were 4 times less than in France and Germany, and 8,5 times less than in England; indirect taxes - on average half as much as in Austria, Germany and England.
    The increase in grain yield amounted to 78%. Grain exported by Russia fed the whole of Europe. Coal production increased by 325%, copper - by 375%, iron ore - by 250%, oil - by 65%. The growth of railways amounted to 103%, the merchant fleet - 39%.
    The overall growth of the Russian economy even in the difficult years of World War I was 21,5%.
    Many domestic economists and politicians have argued that
    preservation of development trends that existed in 1900-1914 is inevitable after 20-30 years
    will bring Russia to the place of world leader, give it an opportunity
    dominate Europe, exceed the economic potential of all the European powers combined. Russia had every chance of victory, if not for the Jewish traitors and the revolution.
    1. +5
      15 February 2016 15: 05
      ..... Under Nicholas II, Russia was experiencing an unprecedented period of material prosperity. On the eve of the First World War .... etc.

      .... On the eve of World War I, the Russian army did not have enough rifles and ammunition ... The gun and cartridge hunger was eliminated only by 1916. and that is largely due to the supply of Entente countries ... As of 1914. on one field gun there were 5 (five !!!!!) shells ..... there was actually nothing to fight ..... These are not my statements, but the wonderful Russian gunsmith Fedorov, who later became Soviet .... He can believe .... So that Sorrow's textbooks have nothing to do with it ..... hi
      1. +2
        15 February 2016 15: 25
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        There was actually nothing to fight .....

        How is it nothing? Tsarist generals offered to equip soldiers with berdyshi ..
      2. +2
        15 February 2016 17: 12
        Shhh ... stop Now many simply pray for Tsarist Russia and Stolypin and for the Tsar. But we know the truth laughing
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  17. +2
    15 February 2016 08: 31
    Ready, not ready, I think we will win - we will prepare in the process, it has always been, and we have always won. The price was really huge, but they won. At the same time we will clean up our "stables" and put things in order in Europe - Russia's historical mission is to save the world.
    1. +9
      15 February 2016 09: 28
      Quote: lexx2038
      True, the price was huge, but they won.

      I would like to say about the price. In the 90s, everything (including the country) was simply "merged". Without war. And what - the losses were less? How many millions of Russians and other nationalities b. The USSR is no longer alive, or have they, in fact, ceased to be Russians (belong to the Russian civilization) like many, for example, in / in Ukraine, which can also be equated with death?
      Right now there are a lot of comments, such as: "Yes, you, a couch general, are you ready to die?", "You are here, in the comments, advocating a war with Turkey / NATO / devil /, and you know how many victims there will be?" etc. etc...
      Dear you are mine! No one is ready to die. At least from the innate sense of self-preservation, which is present in all organisms, with the exception of specific scumbags. But what does that change? Is it easier to die without war (or die) as a nation, as a certain cultural (civilizational) ethnos? Did not avoiding war bring comparable or even greater sacrifices in the future?
      Therefore, I repeat - no one wants to die, but if you can’t avoid a fight, you have to fight. Otherwise - a shame. Otherwise, instead of a broken nose or a broken jaw, you will be killed at best. At worst, they will kick with impunity for the rest of their lives. Does she need such a life?
      Perhaps I will cite not the best example: once in Bobruisk, there was one authoritative "kid" and all that he had in "chocolate", until he once, being on tour in Poland, was not afraid for his life and gave in. What did it give him? He lived his rest of the years humiliated and depressed. In the well-known "night light" bar at the Bobruisk hotel, where he continued to "hang out" out of habit, only the lazy did not kick him. I know this firsthand, because I happened to be a district policeman in my youth. And exactly that "night light" was on my territory. And how many times I wrote about this dude for bodily injuries - only God knows. From the trauma center there is a telephone message about the beating. You come to interrogate, and he is ashamed to admit, so he writes an explanation about how he himself fell his head on the asphalt.
      So draw conclusions: what’s worse is death and sacrifice, or to live left out. If they allow, of course ...
  18. +1
    15 February 2016 08: 32
    The right topic. For today, the army is ready as much as it can. Or maybe she's a small military operation in Syria. We are unlikely to pull another "Syria", let alone a large-scale conflict with a group of leading countries of the world. We try to use a complex of forces, and the military, only a part of it. Much good work. The future is hybrid, flexible warfare. It is necessary to improve this direction.
  19. -2
    15 February 2016 08: 33
    The main thing is to show firmness and consistency of decisions, "partners" are already beginning to change diapers. GDP leads the right course, and we will exhaust the liberal riffraff along the way.
    1. +7
      15 February 2016 08: 52
      And, izmenyayusi ask, who will torment the rifle along the way? And How?
      Shooting reptiles ali at the kolyma? And yet the "correct course" is where?
      For my 60 years, all we did was to follow the "correct courses", always in different directions. They used to walk me like Lenin's (Khrushchev's, Brezhnev's, fire-carriage - (for those who understand)), Gorbachev's, Yeltsin's and vapesh ... And where did I come?
      Okay, in a circle, but no, into the pit. Shushera went further towards a brighter future, while I was in opera and for a long time ... Something like that ....
  20. 0
    15 February 2016 08: 36
    The Turks seem to have started! While probing the response.
    Our are silent.
  21. +5
    15 February 2016 08: 45
    "Russia lost to the losers. And it lost not only a huge part of its territory, but also its weight on the world stage. But for this, thanks to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin)."
    After these words, it is already clear that both authors absolutely do not know the history and especially the military and economic situation at that time - I see no reason to read the rest of the nonsense.
  22. +4
    15 February 2016 08: 51
    old truth: generals are preparing for the last war. any following is completely different. compare the first and second world. so it will be as we do not suppose. new weapons and tactics will come first.
  23. +7
    15 February 2016 08: 54
    World War I

    Russia was in a state of economic growth, but one that really instilled fear in all "partners." There was no such word then, but the essence was. It hasn't changed much in 100 years. As, however, and "partners" who tried at any cost to remove Russia to the margins of world politics and economics.

    Russia was absolutely not ready for the war. Moreover, if the USSR had approached the beginning of World War II in the same degree of readiness, then we would hardly have written, and you read all of this. But the heroism and dedication of Russian soldiers, as well as the real literacy and skills of Russian military leaders like Samsonov, Brusilov, Denikin, Kolchak, Kornilov, Alekseev, allowed to enter the war on equal terms and gain many glorious victories. Yes, there were Vlasov-Rennenkampfs, but where in our history without them.

    Of course, the uniqueness of the outcome for Russia was that, in alliance with the winners, Russia lost to the losers. And she lost not only a huge part of her territory, but also weight on the world stage. But thanks for this to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (To Lenin).


    After that, you can not read. Authors either stoned in the trash wrote, or ignoramuses finished.
    1. Erg
      0
      15 February 2016 09: 57
      Hard. But fair. hi It seems that since the 70s of the last century, some individuals have not read anything, were not interested in anything.
      1. +1
        15 February 2016 10: 49
        Quote: Erg
        that since the 70 of the last century, some individuals have not read anything, were not interested in anything.

        Since the days of the "frenzy of perestroika" and the magazine "Ogonyok" edited by Korotich. This will be more accurate. laughing
      2. 0
        15 February 2016 11: 01
        They are from the 70s of the past, they are from the 90s and 2000s.
  24. +3
    15 February 2016 09: 06
    Intelligence specialists and the General Staff should assess the potential of the "partners", but the author is right, there are few "novelties" in the army, and they still remain "novelties." The worst thing is "effective managers" and other liberals who still hold key positions in the government and at the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, this is the so-called elite raised by the EBN in the 90s. In my opinion, it is they who are the brake on the development of Russia, the "fifth column" should be dealt with seriously, and not scold with a finger, like a child who has nailed it.
    1. +3
      15 February 2016 14: 30
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      the "fifth column" should be dealt with seriously, and not scold with a finger, like a naughty child

      This is what Putin is doing now! Instead of dispersing the existing thieves, Medvedev sends nothing to international meetings that is incapable of solving. Nabiullina and Gref, the best in the US opinion, continue to "lead" in economics and finance. And Putin is satisfied with the work of the Government!
  25. +4
    15 February 2016 09: 12
    Roman Skomorokhov was bitten by Svanidze and Mlechin? I have never seen a more "muddy" article from this author on VO. Mareman Vasilich outlined everything correctly, ignorance of the history of his own country is simply crying. According to the review of the state of the army at the beginning of the war, the authors, believe me, no army in the world will ever be 100% ready to conduct a modern war.
  26. +5
    15 February 2016 09: 26
    Quote: polkovnik manuch
    Intelligence specialists and the General Staff should assess the potential of the "partners", but the author is right, there are few "novelties" in the army, and they still remain "novelties." The worst thing is "effective managers" and other liberals who still hold key positions in the government and at the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, this is the so-called elite raised by the EBN in the 90s. In my opinion, it is they who are the brake on the development of Russia, the "fifth column" should be dealt with seriously, and not scold with a finger, like a child who has nailed it.

    So far, the "naughty children" scold and not with a finger. It is impossible to bend the people - this is their task, and the task of the patriots is to shout at all corners that they bend over, but you have to endure, survive, tady, mogo, and carry. So the fifth was seriously engaged with the patriots to fight the people, together, something more fun and handy. They brought us a special kind - a liberal-patriot with an oor about Great Russia and denyuzhkami over the hill. "Sad, brothers" (C).
  27. +5
    15 February 2016 09: 28
    Extremely thin layer of human mob reserve. Young people did not serve 70-80% in the army; they do not have a military specialty. And what is written on the military ID card has a very indirect relation to this. Consumer psychology and the rejection of any duties still dominate her environment. Although in fairness it must be said that there have been noticeably more patriots among young people. Old people are patriotic and trained, but the forces are not the same. Ordinary people have long forgotten, and some people don’t even know what a gas mask is and where the bomb shelter is located. So if you prepare the country for war, then still work and work.
  28. +3
    15 February 2016 09: 32
    If the Third breaks out, then we will not speak about the Fourth.
    There is no doubt that there will be a Third, if any, with the use of nuclear weapons. Let me explain why I think so. It is enough to look at the correlation of non-nuclear forces of potential adversaries - see "Russia - the USA: parity is impossible." http://army-news.ru/2012/08/rossiya-ssha-paritet-nevozmozhen/. In this article, the balance of power of the Russian Federation - NATO, the balance of power at the European Theater of Operations (TVD) is given. It is in all respects a multiple (!) Not in our favor. After the publication of the article, the correlation of forces remained practically unchanged, not to mention the desired turning point.
    This suggests that with conventional weapons none of our "boots" are expected on US soil. In the European theater of operations, given the multiple superiority of the enemy, we will have to retreat into the depths of our territory, as has happened in the past. Whether our vast territory will be salutary for us is a big and dubious question, given the capabilities of modern weapons: the swiftness of movement, great destructive force and the depth of defeat.
    And this, in turn, says that in order to be able to confront, I don’t even talk about victory so far, Russia will have to use nuclear forces. At the same time, it is far from an unforeseen outcome and with already possibly irreparable losses, including and nuclear forces.
    So is it worth waiting for this "step back into the abyss" and it would not be more correct to immediately inflict a devastating blow. By the way, Russia's military doctrine says that it is possible to be the first to use nuclear forces in the face of an imminent (!) Threat of attack (obviously not a "mongrel"). Or is it just me reading the doctrine like that?
    Note: China is still looking from the side and, according to today's mood, is unlikely to get involved.
  29. -1
    15 February 2016 09: 50
    After reading the article, for some reason I wanted to go squatting under the button accordion! Eh, ma confusion, I did not catch anything!
  30. 0
    15 February 2016 09: 53
    Quote: almost demob
    Quote: Enot-poloskun
    There is a nuclear weapon!

    Therefore, I believe that there will be no Third World War.

    Now, if we attack nuclear weapons, then World War Four will definitely not soldier


    Enshtein's words "I don't know what kind of weapon World War 3 will be fought, but the 4th will definitely be fought with sticks and stones
  31. +1
    15 February 2016 10: 24
    We will be ready for war when the Russian Air Force will have at least 500-600 combat-ready fighters. Not those that are statewide, but those who really can take off and join the battle. According to experts, these machines are now a little less than 100. Alas...
  32. -13
    15 February 2016 10: 31
    Russia was absolutely not ready for the war. Moreover, if the USSR had approached the beginning of the First World War in the same degree of readiness, then we would hardly have written, and you read all this


    what a wild ... what a terry nonsense ... with all the type of unpreparedness of tsarist Russia, the Germans did not go beyond Riga and Baranovich ... and the super-trained red Caudle led by the mustachioed Satan and Judas "lured" Hans right up to the Volga ... Charles!!!. our ancestors were tossing and turning in their coffins ... it's possible to fucking shit .. the heart of our Russian land and there is an enemy !! like illiterate fuckers and without shells managed to give almost nothing and the red-bellied ones ran as much but their heels sparkled .... what kind of unreadiness are we talking about?
    1. +8
      15 February 2016 10: 47
      Quote: BagnyukSelo
      with all the type of unpreparedness of tsarist Russia, the Germans did not go beyond Riga and Baranovich ... and the super-trained red Caudle, led by the mustachioed Satan and Judas, "lured" Hans right up to the Volga ... to the Volga Karl !!!

      Sometimes you read "euda" and there is a suspicion that hard drugs are more widespread in the country than the FSKN says. Remind me how heroically the Anglo-French troops defended themselves in France and Belgium and Holland in August 1941, and how many German divisions heroically fought in Europe in July 1942. And then we'll talk about "illiterate suckers" with specific mention of names, surnames and nicknames.
      1. -7
        15 February 2016 11: 48
        OK! I’m happy at work .. from lunch I’ll dump and explain everything to you.
        1. +3
          15 February 2016 14: 05
          Quote: BagnyukSelo
          OK! I’m happy at work .. from lunch I’ll dump and explain everything to you.

          Come on. long time no fun.
  33. +2
    15 February 2016 10: 46
    Are you sure that the First World War is over? Since then, all over the world, warriors are constantly marching, and all world powers are taking part in them indirectly in pursuit of their interests. So the first and second world war, these are only phases of exacerbation of one global war of all against all, which has been going on for more than one century, changing only forms, methods and of course weapons. The world is always teetering on the brink of a big war, and today this edge is again very thin. It is unlikely that it will be an open war between the superpowers, all the same, the presence of huge nuclear weapons reserves, while it will keep from such a collision. Economics, terrorism and internal conflicts are what is used in the war of the major powers. But nevertheless, clashes on foreign territories are now very real, this also applies to Ukraine and Syria. But one gets the impression that neither the United States nor the countries of old Europe wants to take part in the new war, wanting to remain only its indirect participants and "gainers", counting profits.
  34. +5
    15 February 2016 10: 49
    Moreover, if the USSR had approached the beginning of the First World War in the same degree of readiness, then we would hardly have written, and you read all of this.
    Rave....
    Of course, the uniqueness of the outcome for Russia was that, being in alliance with the winners, Russia lost to the loser. And she lost not only a huge part of her territory, but also weight on the world stage. But for that, thanks to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin).
    Yes you! And not thanks to Nicholas 2 and the Provisional Government?
  35. +3
    15 February 2016 10: 58
    I would like to remind the author that people are not fighting weapons. Yes, Russia is neither shaky nor swift, but there is a rearmament and nuclear weapons. But is society ready to endure hardships and hardships to come to victory? I doubt. We now have a sample society of the beginning of the 20th century. Capitalism. And that's it. Why did Russia lose the 1st World War and win the Second World War? Although in the first case, she fought against Germany and Austria and in the 2nd against the whole of Europe (minus England). And now, someone will shed blood (because they called) and someone will be enriched (because in business). Will there be many volunteers?
    1. +2
      15 February 2016 11: 35
      In fairness, it should be noted that it is not against Austria, but against Austria-Hungary, one of the largest European states in terms of population and territory. And against the Ottoman Empire as well.
  36. +4
    15 February 2016 11: 14
    Barack Abama, who was not scolded only by the very lazy, worked, by the way,
    strictly in the style of Reagan:
    1) strain Russia with an arms race, but do not go broke (the US military budget is declining for the 6th consecutive year)

    2) To undermine the economy of the "energy superpower". States, not Arabs, control today
    world oil prices and lower them. And the sanctions are a tough financial stranglehold. Nobody in the world, even China,
    he does not dare to give Russia loans while it is under sanctions.

    3) Do not enter into military confrontations and disputes with Russia. Give way to critical moments.

    That's the whole 3rd World War ...
  37. +3
    15 February 2016 11: 15
    may we fuck?
    -Bahn surely bang, but then ... and now .. (DMB)

    and now all the empty analytics in w ..., you have to deal with the economy, you need to prepare the rear and update equipment in the army and other power structures .. of course, in the first place, the forces of nuclear deterrence

    and still sad for our fleet, bastards humpback and ebn, I hope one devil is already boiling in a boiler am
    1. +5
      15 February 2016 14: 43
      Quote: serg2108
      one devil is boiled in a cauldron

      And in this world, some museums began to bother him and popularly admire this corrupt alcoholic!
  38. +1
    15 February 2016 11: 18
    Air defense. Here we can say that we are still ahead of the rest.
    I do not share the optimism of the author. In this direction, serious work is needed. Air defense systems should quickly cover the sky over the vital centers of the country. It is necessary that such systems, together with electronic warfare systems, move at the speed of refrigerated trains, deploy in the shortest possible time, and are able to reflect massive raids. Ask why? The First World War was in many ways similar to the Second, because the time gap between the wars was small. The next war, if any, will be different and not necessarily with the use of nuclear weapons.
  39. +5
    15 February 2016 11: 28
    There was a higher opinion of the authors. I am ashamed to be so incompetent. Blame Trotsky and Lenin in the collapse of Russia can only be a person who has studied the history of his country from comics. Kerensky, Lenin and Trotsky each carried out their task within the framework of the global Anglo-Saxon plan to destroy and dismember its main geopolitical adversary - Russia. Lenin's merit was that he outplayed the British: he used them in order to gain power (on schedule), but did not transfer it to Trotsky as planned, but began to play his game, wisely using the differences between the Westerners, who had already begun to share the legacy world carnage, and were also busy recycling Germany. Simply put, Lenin threw the breeders, for which he paid with his life - weighed down by the burden of the White Man, they do not forgive this. And the great geopolitical success for Russia was the adoption by Stalin of the relay race of state building. He began with the elimination of the fifth column and the consistent, rapid pace, economic recovery. As a result, by 1941, economic growth was 30% per year (!), One industrial enterprise was commissioned every seven hours. The myth of decapitation of the Red Army does not stand up to criticism. The army really was cleansed: from alcoholics, parasites, incompetent nominees, thieves ... Unfortunately, not completely. Our defeats in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War were the cause of outright betrayal of the highest generals, the army was put under defeat, primarily Tymoshenko and Zhukov. The most vile thing they did: they ignored the directive of 18.06.1941/20.06/22.06.1941 on making border districts ready to repel aggression, which stated the exact date of the invasion - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Now paid grand-eaters from history convince us that there was only one directive - from 22.06.1941. and, allegedly, Tymoshenko and Zhukov convinced the near-paranoid Stalin to send her to the army a few hours before the invasion. But this betrayal was preceded by even more ambitious and vile: replacing the plan of defense of the state border with the plan of its cover. If you did not pass the exam, ask what the difference is. The trouble with Stalin and the entire Soviet people was that they entrusted the defense of the state to Soviet 1941 generals, for the most part being either traitors (like generals Pavlov, Lukin and others like them), or people incompetent in military affairs (two-thirds of generals who started the war, by 1945 they were replaced by former regiment commanders and brigade commanders who had no career growth before the war) some of which were urgently released from prisons (many sat at work, a rare officer was not in the orbit of influence of the people of Tukhachevsky - the real leader of the generals conspiracy curated by Abwehr, by the way, merged by the NKVD by British intelligence). On June 29.06.1941, XNUMX, when visiting the General Staff of the Red Army, Stalin became convinced that the army leadership was completely incompetent. A decision was made to create the SVK, which he personally headed (an absolutely civilian!). There is a myth that we bombarded the Germans with corpses, suffered losses of 1 in 10. It's a lie. I.L.Gharibyan "Military losses of Germany in the Second World War" is extremely convincing. I recommend that you think thinking people ... English historian B. Liddell Garth is the author of the so-called "strategies of indirect actions" - non-standard, stunning general decisions for the enemy. The historian is English, Western and therefore climbs out of his skin to pull his strategy on the actions of Western commanders: Anglo-Saxons and Germans, there is little space for Russians there. He overlooked an epoch-making classic example of such a strategy - the evacuation of industrial enterprises of the USSR to the east in 1941, which led to the defeat of Germany this year. Having retained the military-industrial complex, according to prewar evacuation plans, the USSR had already won the war. So, we were ready for the war in 1941.
    1. +5
      15 February 2016 12: 02
      subjectivity, however, all of you are alcoholics, traitors, incompetent, thieves, how did they defeat all in civilian life? And why did they win if they were such rascals who did not merge the whole struggle of Denikin, Kolchak, the Americans with the Japanese?
    2. 0
      15 February 2016 13: 28
      Something among the Stalinists lately has some ... spring aggravation, or what?
      The Americans have such a crazy sect that believes in ALL conspiracy theories -
      Simultaneously.
      23 people shot at the poor fellow Kennedy at the same time!
      (according to 23 different conspiracy theories).
      The authors of this long post would be admitted to this sect without an exam. laughing .
      1. -1
        15 February 2016 14: 00
        Quote: BagnyukSelo
        our ancestors tossed about in coffins ... it’s possible to get fucked .. the heart of our Russian land and there is an enemy !! like suckers are illiterate and without shells managed to give almost nothing, but the red-bellied ones ran as much but the heels sparkled ...

        Uh? Do the Stalinists exacerbate, Karl?
    3. -1
      15 February 2016 14: 06
      And when was the last time a psychiatrist had a colleague? It's time to see a long time ago you visited a doctor’s colleague.
      PS To see in Zhukov, Tymoshenko, there weren’t any traitors yet and was drowned in blood, and drunk on an accordion lost the whole war, but there’s not one yet, and if you worked for anyone, let the public know so that they would expose to the end.
    4. Erg
      0
      15 February 2016 18: 44
      pft, although not 100, but I will support. For the respected sa-ag - judging by your comment, you have little idea of ​​the alignment of forces in the Civil. You see, the United States is at war with Daesh ... And Turkey is at war, it seems ... That is how the Entente was at war with the Bolsheviks. The Illuminati supported the White Movement with one hand, and the Bolsheviks with the other. And in the Second - didn’t the Americans build tanks for Hitler? Didn't subsidize it? At the same time as Lendlis and the second front? ..
  40. 0
    15 February 2016 11: 31
    Some kind of daisy - will be, will not be.
    If you push, not knowing the edge, then sooner or later someone sniffing cocaine will press a button, and there is a chain reaction.
    And there will not be a fourth with batons - the planet will not withstand the volumes of Y. O.
  41. +1
    15 February 2016 11: 39
    Why do authors put on the same board Vlasov and Rennenkampf?
    1. +4
      15 February 2016 14: 05
      Quote: Sergej1972
      Why do authors put on the same board Vlasov and Rennenkampf?

      Because they were both traitors. One surrendered because he could not break out of the environment, the other because because of his inaction he led Samsonov’s army, which was defeated. Instead of going to Samsonov’s rescue, he was engaged in the fucking of his mistress Settel, who was later hanged on the nearest bitch, like a German spy.
  42. +2
    15 February 2016 11: 45
    Scare the Russian war-that the hedgehog is a bare hell. It will be necessary - we will fight so that it becomes nauseous.
    Inspired once again:
    The hero comes to the cave and shouts:
    -Exit Serpent gorynych, we will fight!
    In response, silence.
    (B): Come out, bastard, to a fair fight!
    Silence again!
    (B) yells even louder into the cave:
    “Come out, snake, fight!”
    Zmey Gorynych:
    -Well, fight so fight, why yell in the ass!

    I would also like to add that the people and the army of Russia will fight with considerable enthusiasm, if they are sure that ABSOLUTELY ALL, WITHOUT EXCLUSION, the army of liberals is selflessly physically working in the production of ammunition, construction work and other useful fields for the country.
    Without the firm conviction that these degenerates are hardworking and selflessly working for the good of the Fatherland, and their offspring in the trenches at the forefront, it will be very difficult to achieve victory!
  43. +1
    15 February 2016 11: 50
    The answer to the question of the authors of the article is simple, not ready and not preparing. It is enough to look at the state of the economy and the movement of the authorities to "reform" it.
  44. +5
    15 February 2016 12: 05
    by the end of the term this monkey will do anything
  45. 0
    15 February 2016 12: 29
    Enot-poloskun (3) RU Today, 07:32 ↑ New

    In principle, they are ready for the Third World War. There is a nuclear weapon!

    Therefore, I believe that there will be no Third World War.

    There will be economic and regional wars.

    And who will use nuclear weapons? Monkey is running out of time. "Darkest"?
  46. +6
    15 February 2016 12: 36
    In the Great Patriotic War, we survived due to unity, and now there is a stratification into rich and poor, officials and workers, her and Siberians ... castes are being created, some of which are beyond the jurisdiction of the law. A people or society divided in itself will not stand and lose, and most likely without a clear war, in the face of danger, people will unite, but we will be divided and opposed by one another.
    1. 0
      15 February 2016 20: 18
      The only enemy that poses a serious danger to us is China.
  47. 0
    15 February 2016 12: 37
    I would like to note once again. If ISIS goes north in Syria, taking the thugs of Central Asia along the way, and even in coordination with the provocation of the Nazis of Ukraine - providing Russia with a war on two fronts and cutting off the resources of Siberia and the Urals, and even raking some maidan in Siberia and the Urals .. And now they also want to involve the Turks. Was this not the original plan for "democratization"? And the Bomb won't be needed.
  48. +2
    15 February 2016 12: 40
    What kind of weed the author smokes - what kind of economic growth was the country on during the First World War ??? I do not argue that the export of grain was not experienced in 1914, but there was no growth in production. Who needs this "economic growth" when there are not enough shells on the front lines? ...
    1. 0
      15 February 2016 13: 53
      But when I was in school, we were all the time given some figures "in comparison with 1913" .. Did they cheat? Or were there no other numbers by the 70s of the 20th century?
  49. +1
    15 February 2016 15: 05
    The West is not only not ready for a war with Russia (so he would have started it), but at the moment he is afraid of losing Turkey and Ukraine. And most importantly, he cannot fully calculate the final result of the war.
  50. +2
    15 February 2016 15: 21
    Russia lost the losers. And she lost not only a huge part of her territory, but also weight on the world stage. But thanks for this to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin).

    Another fucking "historian" ... Maybe "thanks" should be said to "holy martyr" Nicholas II? It seems - it was he who then brought the country to the handle with his "genius" rule.
    1. -2
      15 February 2016 15: 56
      He brought to World War I not Nikolai the Second, but ** friends ** of Russia. There were a lot of them --- mostly aching - weeping - the intellectual elite inside ..... And Nikolai --- he is Holy !!!! Like it or not....
      1. +4
        15 February 2016 16: 40
        Actually, Nicholas is bloody, and he is a saint like Yeltsin, an advocate of justice.
  51. 0
    15 February 2016 15: 47
    Ready not ready... again another stupidity of the authors. As they say, when you protect a girl, no one asks if she is ready, can she run away? You have the means, you have a head on your shoulders, the rest is a matter of thinking. The main thing is to trip up someone who needs it, and not show off your biceps in front of everyone. This is our difference with our opponents. So far, this tactic has not failed Russia.
  52. -2
    15 February 2016 15: 51
    let’s not wait until they attack, let’s take it and be the first to hit you. And then to the UN with a sad face, you surrounded us with bases, we got nervous feel
  53. 0
    15 February 2016 15: 51
    ...I wish I could, otherwise I’m tired of waiting!!!....Which is better ---horror without end, or the end of horror????
  54. 0
    15 February 2016 16: 07
    if the USSR had approached the beginning of the First World War in that... After such an unforgivable slip of the tongue, I didn’t even want to read further fool
  55. 0
    15 February 2016 16: 23
    Quote: holgert
    It was not Nicholas II who brought it to the First World War, but **friends** of Russia.////And Nicholas is a Saint!!!! Like it or not....

    Yes, I’m not talking about a world war at all... And the saint from Nicholas II, like from Obama, is a peacemaker. Bloody Sunday 1905. Bloody Nicholas, not a saint.
  56. 0
    15 February 2016 16: 27
    But who wants to look for adventure, when there are already C-400, which really give a chance to have time to press the button of the catapult? And the plus is still not caught up with the MiG-21 or 23, but quite modern planes that can do any F?

    So, why do they (NATO and the USA) need to attack local air defense facilities in Syria (S-400) by air? Is there at least one of our ground divisions deployed in full combat strength?
    Yes, we are not ready for large-scale actions in the rank of a world war. But our "partners", more precisely, potential adversaries, are not ready even more than we are. What really show the latest political events.

    Political? Have you tried to monitor the reduction in combat strength, for example, of the same American and British ground forces over the last couple of years (since 2014)? after all, these are purely military aspects...
    - already commented! for example here:
    http://topwar.ru/88598-vooruzhennye-sily-ssha.html
    - and here :
    http://topwar.ru/90543-gotovyatsya-k-drake-s-rossiey.html
    By the way, they are not afraid of us! WMD and all sorts of political nonsense and farce do not count (especially in the media)! The crows are cawing (about the world war) and the pugs are yapping (nothing to growl about) what's here! what's there!
    1. +3
      15 February 2016 16: 56
      Today the Afghans are celebrating. What I mean is that the terrain is approximately the same. It is extremely difficult to advance in the mountains with ground forces without air support.
      It seems to me that Assad’s army, with our support, will be able to tie the Turks hand and foot. There's a lot of stuff wrapped up there.
      But in general, it is very difficult to predict the outcome. War is...war!
    2. +1
      16 February 2016 15: 22
      What, “minus”, do you really not like? An external enemy is a dream! If only the people thought less about internal problems, and thought in general, right? In military affairs, everything is stupid, then look at the zombie box!

      Quote: k_ply
      So, why do they (NATO and the USA) need to attack local air defense facilities in Syria (S-400) by air? Is there at least one of our ground divisions deployed in full combat strength?

      This is not about a ground military frontal offensive, but about a possible ground raid, strike (special operation) to destroy the air defense system and the air force group of the Aerospace Forces itself, or part of it.
    3. +1
      16 February 2016 16: 12
      The point is that the West does not need a war with the Russian Federation or a world war, whatever you like, and not about the fact that in Syria there is not God knows what a powerful group of the Russian Armed Forces (it is based on a combined air regiment).
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  57. +1
    15 February 2016 17: 10
    KMK, in view of the “lack of fish”, it is necessary to use as much as possible what is available. And there are about 29 MiG-350s, each of which can take 3 Gadflies at a time (especially the Kh-59MK2). This could really be a massive blow... And if you knock out infrastructure, such as electrical substations, gas compressor stations, port pumping terminals, bridges, warehouses, airfields, etc.
  58. +4
    15 February 2016 17: 24
    It seems like a sensible analysis, but it seems like childish chatter. The first part relates to the analysis of our army, the second to the likelihood of our response to the Turks and others. Comrades, are you sure that they will give the order to strike to kill? In terms of the quality of equipment, we are unrivaled in the region, the quantity is small, but with the help of strategists and due to quality, they may well inflict frankly unacceptable damage on the Turks. But will there be an order for this? Do you really believe that our elites (although what the hell are they “ours”) are ready to risk everything stolen and stored in Western banks for the sake of Russia? I can just imagine how Gref and Ulyukaev are digging a trench together, Miller is cleaning a machine gun in moments of calm and shoots a cigarette from Sechin, Abromovich at headquarters is sharing intelligence obtained through his ubiquitous fellow tribesmen, and Nabiullina, a nurse on the front line, is bandaging the wounded Medvedev, who led his platoon in hand-to-hand combat against the enemy . Yes, I’m exaggerating, of course, but I’m not sure that our liberal rulers won’t turn back at the last moment. And there is no need to talk about the almighty Putin. If he is satisfied with people pursuing openly anti-Russian and anti-Russian policies, then either he does not see this (which I doubt) or he keeps them there on purpose. As they say, draw your own conclusions...
    1. +3
      15 February 2016 19: 06
      The fact that I see constant excuses and apologies to the West gives rise to approximately similar thoughts. What if the rulers do not care about Russia, but are simply trying to put a price on themselves in front of the West? Otherwise, recently the West has begun to look at them as empty space, so they decided to raise their price a little!
      Just seeing how the so-called “Russian elites” treat ordinary people, it is impossible to believe in the unity of the nation. They ask the common people to tighten their belts, but they shamelessly fatten themselves! They organize banquets for millions of rubles. Anniversaries for tens of millions of rubles (for example, the director of Uralvagonzavod) - is it really necessary to show off your wealth in difficult times for the people? What is the purpose of such a show off? It would be better to give this money to orphans or sick children!
      1. +1
        15 February 2016 20: 23
        Only people like Kasyanov are raising their prices in front of the West, while the rest are mainly filling their own pockets.
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  59. +3
    15 February 2016 17: 53
    Quote: aleks26
    Quote: fake
    So "to survive? And when to live?"

    What are you missing? Own a yacht like Abramovich? Your football club? Or cottages in the Bahamas? Interestingly, share your Wishlist with the people.

    Pensions, my dear, just pensions, and not only for me... unfortunately.
  60. +2
    15 February 2016 18: 11
    Quote: TOR2
    It is necessary that such systems, together with electronic warfare systems, move at the speed of refrigerated trains, deploy in the shortest possible time and be able to repel massive raids.


    Massive raids are massive because there is nothing to repel them. The first wave calculates the radars, and shoots up the stock of air defense missiles on the complexes, then the radars are destroyed in whatever mode they are not working, then the second and third waves destroy everything that is needed. It all depends on the number of attacking missiles.
    If a massive missile launch comes from the north (Arctic), then other than nuclear weapons we have nothing to cover with.

    TOP2 - I am by no means reading you an educational program, I’m just expressing an idea.
    1. +1
      15 February 2016 21: 46
      + That’s exactly what will happen. The charging machine may simply not be on time or there will not be enough time to charge. Any important facility has access roads; in this case, in addition to soil complexes, railway-based complexes can be used. Such a complex will have automatic missile delivery. A minute or two, and the complex is ready to shoot again. It is clear that it will be more difficult to break through such a defense. In addition, the carriage has space to place a high-power electronic warfare system, which will also complicate life for the attacking side. Now there are no such systems, but they are very necessary in modern conditions.
      1. 0
        16 February 2016 01: 12
        Ahhhh, our dreams, anxieties and worries... There will be no n.... If they don’t kill it right away, then the stars on their shoulder straps and expensive jackets will be sold.
      2. 0
        19 February 2017 00: 45
        World War 3 is on our doorstep
  61. 0
    15 February 2016 18: 52
    It’s so easy to talk to everyone about the war... it’s just a strategist on a strategist... or - they will fight there, save Russia. I saw these at the beginning of the two thousandth - tears, snot and vomiting from the first type of war.
  62. +1
    15 February 2016 21: 48
    Of course, the uniqueness of the outcome for Russia was that, being in alliance with the winners, Russia lost to the loser. And she lost not only a huge part of her territory, but also weight on the world stage. But for that, thanks to comrades Leib Bronstein (Trotsky) and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin).

    You know what, good uncle author, drink cyanide and eat rat poop. I didn’t read any more of your slop.
  63. 0
    15 February 2016 22: 01
    “By this moment, Joseph Vissarionovich had already successfully rotted all the “old Bolsheviks” and began industrializing the country. He successfully began...”
    Our “Vissarionich”... is somehow embarrassed to do both, but now is the time...
  64. +1
    15 February 2016 22: 42
    Here questions arose regarding the History of Russia. I can't miss the opportunity to participate in the discussion. Regarding the First (or rather the Second, the first was in 1812, look at the rabble that Napoleon brought in his army to Russia), the authorities and the Russian economy were not ready for it. Let us remember the Russo-Japanese War of 1905, which was completely lost. Regarding the supposedly fantastic take-off of the economy and industrial development in Russia in 1913-1916. Sorry, guys, foreign companies invested in the Russian economy, and the profits received from this were exported to the West. Do you know what the CER is? Chinese Military Railway. Back in the 1910s, its length was no less than the BAM, it was built in 10 years with loans from France and, note, Putin two years ago reimbursed the shareholders of the CER in France for the costs of the shares. I hate French fagots, despite the fact that Samsonov’s army was all killed, but saved Paris from being captured by the Germans. And another little-known fact of the History of Russia... We remember the "time of troubles", the Poles in the Kremlin, anarchy, Minin and Pozharsky - the saviors of Rus'... Do you know who financed the militias of Minin and Pozharsky? And the militias fought for good money. Britain! And why, after the victory, did not Prince Pozharsky become king, by the way, a descendant of the Rurikovichs - the winner, was the boyar of the Romans from a seedy family invited to the kingdom? British merchants paid, receiving in return an exemption from customs duties for their goods imported into Russia. And now about Zhukov and Tymoshenko. But I agree with the opinion of pft. fkb from the previous page. A conspiracy of generals in the Soviet Union under Stalin took place. It's a pity that not everyone was shot. Somehow everyone forgot that at the beginning of the war Zhukov was the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces. Well, at least Tymoshenko had enough remnants of conscience not to write memoirs, but he managed to edit subsequent publications even from the grave. Thanks to this scum (I'm putting it mildly!) the Germans reached Moscow. It was not for nothing that Stalin later removed it. It couldn't even read maps. Do you know that Zhukov proposed to shoot not only all military personnel who surrendered to the Germans, but also members of their families? It was not for nothing that the troops called him a butcher.
    1. 0
      17 February 2016 07: 58
      Where does the information come from? What are the primary sources about Zhukov?
  65. 0
    15 February 2016 23: 41
    I don’t want to speak obscenely about the authors. I won’t point out that the Yankees’ tank factories are dead, the European ones are close to this, and only Tagil and Omsk are ready to start producing dozens of T-14s tomorrow; t-90; t-80 per day, just give the command. It's the same with aviation. I’ll just say: my botanist son decided to join the army after college even before I left for Donetsk. And we still have enough reserve officers with Soviet training. WARS ARE NOT WINNED BY MISSILES! LET THEM GO...
    1. 0
      16 February 2016 05: 04
      WARS ARE NOT WINNED BY MISSILES! LET THEM GO...
      On this optimistic note, let me... uh... bring you down to earth... Do the examples of Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq mean nothing to you? In modern warfare, it is precisely the high-quality level of technical equipment that allows you to destroy the enemy without giving him the opportunity to adequately respond. So not only do people win, but you also need to have a weapon that will give you the opportunity to confront the enemy on an equal footing.
      In general, NATO is not a herd of ukrovoyaks in the Donbass and they must be taken more seriously, otherwise the same problems will happen as in 41!
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  66. 0
    15 February 2016 23: 50
    The number of aircraft and their performance characteristics is of course good, but you must understand very clearly what you are fighting for.
    What happens if you remain silent and do not stop evil.

    I’m not trying to draw any analogies with today’s conflict, but that’s how it happened too!
    In the photo: pregnant Armenian women crucified by the Turks during the Armenian genocide in 1915.
    1. +1
      16 February 2016 05: 17
      Terrible photo. Making fun of the defenseless is a clear characteristic of the Turks. Usually, such sadism directly indicates worthlessness in battle with an equal or stronger enemy, which is what the Turks actually showed in their history. Bandera’s men also became famous for killing defenseless people, but somehow they didn’t have much luck with the regular army. This cruelty is a sign of psychological disorders, feelings of inferiority... they cannot express themselves in battle (point bench press), so they take it out on those who obviously cannot resist.

      In contrast to the Turks, for Russian soldiers, cruelty to the weak and defenseless was unacceptable at all times. Moreover, Russians have always had a respectful attitude even towards valiant enemies!

      PS. Maybe someone will laugh, but in principle I never went to Turkey on vacation... and I see that I was not mistaken!
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  67. +1
    16 February 2016 03: 01
    It seems to me that the debate on whether Russia is ready to fight or not is pointless. Russia has always won wars of global scale - some quickly, some after a long time. But the result is always the same - we had to visit the capitals of many countries for a cup of tea (moonshine, beer, kvass - you choose). Only we haven’t drunk whiskey in the capitals yet, but judging by the body movements of the suicides, this is not far off. Of course, war is a very dirty and cruel business, but what to do? In the end, it is necessary to put a fat radiation point on greyhounds at some point. Let them play Fallaud live, and we will cheer for the teams.
  68. -1
    16 February 2016 03: 50
    Quote: Pitot
    and we will cheer for the teams.

    There will be no “teams” in such a war. And - God forbid you see this live...

    PS: I know more than I can say... but so far the Apocalypse... is not expected, which is good news
  69. 0
    16 February 2016 05: 47
    The article is a definite plus.
  70. 0
    16 February 2016 08: 43
    Whether we are ready or not is not the question, the question is who needs it and what they will compare against us, I would like more specifics, but it remains to remember the elders. In short, enough whining.
  71. +1
    17 February 2016 03: 08
    I gave the article a minus and here's why: 1) I would like to remind the author, who, in his own words, somehow served in the Soviet army, that wisdom does not always come with age, most often age comes alone. Here, for sure, there is no There are few who did not serve in the Soviet army, but have such combat experience that the author of this article and his friend never even dreamed of. So by calling all the people who disagree with him stupid young schoolchildren, the author, trivially, shows his bad manners, arrogance and stupidity.2) During the First World War, the relatives and officials of Nicholas II stole the entire budget of Russia, as a result of which the Russian army did not receive the required amount of heavy artillery, mortars, aircraft and ammunition. Alas, the current situation reminds me very much of the First World War. Mr. Abramovich has more yachts than the Russian Caspian Flotilla of warships. It’s interesting, in case of war, what is the Russian government going to send into battle, the yachts of Abramovich and others like him, or something else?! Alas, there is nothing special to send into battle besides yachts.. .3) The United States openly deploys dual-use launchers in the EU, supposedly anti-aircraft, but with the ability to launch Tomahawk medium-range cruise missiles capable of carrying conventional and nuclear warheads. The United States openly talks about the possibility of using, at a minimum, tactical nuclear weapons, first and for any purpose. The United States launched nuclear strikes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and used depleted uranium shells in Iraq and not only in Iraq. So the United States can use nuclear weapons, but Russia cannot?! Why can’t Russia do what the USA can?! I believe that Russia must defend its interests and sovereignty with all types of weapons at its disposal. And “great strategists” like Pasha Grachev, nicknamed Mercedes, should have been fired from the army long ago, their stupidity costs Russia too much... Gentlemen, stop raking in the heat with someone else’s hands and riding on someone else’s hump. Are you eager to fight Turkey with conventional AK assault rifles?! Then take these AKs into your hands and, together with your families, go on the attack, in the front ranks, and if you wish, you can attack even with flintlock rifles, this is your business, and we will look at your courage and will wait for you with victory... Otherwise, you are smart and humane, but at someone else’s expense...Like Russia shouldn’t use nuclear weapons against Turkey, but you personally are obviously not going to fight Turkey with conventional weapons with your own hands. Stop ruining Russian soldiers!
  72. 0
    19 February 2017 00: 44
    World War 3 is on our doorstep
  73. 0
    22 March 2020 23: 35
    Erdogan, he read, believed that the Kurds are the same Papuans, by beating whom he would demonstrate his power to the whole world. He did not understand, and most likely did not try to understand, that being ready to attack a people, almost entirely joining the militia, and most importantly having nowhere to go, is like chopping porridge with an ax. A very unproductive activity. And in terms of losses, it is also very costly.

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