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Putin's risky game in Aleppo is paying off (CounterPunch, USA)

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The triumph with the change of the game in northern Syria moved the coalition led by Russia strikingly close to a decisive victory in Aleppo. After breaking into the 40 month-long siege of the cities of Nubl and Zara, the Syrian Arab army surrounded the industrial hub of the city and gradually tightened the noose. The main supply lines going north were cut, and this led to the fact that Sunni extremists and anti-government insurgents were trapped in a huge boiler inside the city. Now it's only a matter of time - will these motley insurgents be killed or forced to surrender. The victory in Aleppo will change the course of the war, as government control over the densely populated western corridor will be restored. That is why the Obama administration is desperately seeking to either delay or thwart Russian pressure and avoid the inevitable collapse of US policy in Syria.

The recent peace talks in Geneva were convened for the sole purpose of obstructing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the forces loyal to him to occupy Aleppo again. However, the negotiations failed when Washington’s non-permanent allies, the so-called "moderate" rebels, refused to participate in them. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Syrian opposition rejected "under pressure from Saudi Arabia and Turkey, the two main supporters of the rebels." Recognition of the magazine was later confirmed by Secretary of State John Kerry, who - so says the Middle East Eye - “accused the Syrian opposition of withdrawing from the talks and ensuring the possibility of a joint offensive by the Syrian government and Russia on Aleppo”.

“Don't blame me,” said Kerry. “Blame the opposition. It was they who did not want negotiations and did not want a cease-fire, and they left. ”

None of this surprised readers carefully following the negotiations. From the very beginning, the meetings were plunged into confusion. The US delegation, led by Kerry, focused entirely on reaching an agreement that would include a cease-fire and a halt to the government-led offensive. Saudis, Turks and opposition leaders had a different opinion. They, apparently, did not pay attention to the situation on the ground, where their jihadist infantry suffered heavy losses. As a realist, Kerry was looking for a way to negotiate a respite and save US-backed militants from assured destruction. But the Saudis and Turks decided that their positions were strong enough to make demands. The clash of opinions should have led to discouraging results, which is what happened. The meetings were canceled, not really starting yet. Nothing has been settled. Here is an excerpt from the WSJ:

“About half a dozen cities and towns became the target of a new offensive of the regime, and they have one thing in common: all of them were held by a jumble of Islamists and moderate rebel groups funded by Saudi Arabia and Turkey. The picture is further complicated by the fact that some, although not all, of these groups are collaborating with the al-Qaeda Front of al-Nusra. This gives the regime and its allies grounds to say that they are fighting terrorism. ” (“Saudi Arabia and Turkey pushed the Syrian opposition to abandon the negotiations,” Wall Street Journal)


This should dispel all illusions that the rebels who are trying to overthrow the government are simply disgruntled nationalists who have decided to dislodge the “evil dictator”. The point is not at all in this. Although there are a number of local rebels, most of them are Sunni extremists, who are trying to overthrow Assad and create an Islamic Caliphate. That is why Moscow refused to introduce a cease-fire during the negotiations in Geneva. Russia is resolutely against any measures that allow internationally recognized terrorists to avoid a well-deserved punishment.

Kerry was deliberately misleading in this regard. Just last week, he said: "Russia has clearly shown me that they are ready for a cease-fire ... The Iranians confirmed in London just a day and a half ago that they now support a cease-fire."

This is a lie, and Kerry knows this very well. Moscow tried to show flexibility with regard to the so-called “moderate” opposition forces, but when it comes to ISIL, Jabhat al-Nusra, Jaish al-Mojaheddin, Harakat Nuriddin al-Zinki and Harakat ash-Sham, the leaders of Russia constantly repeat that they will not stop until these jihadists are killed or captured. That is why Russia continued its air strikes at the time of Geneva - after all, the majority of the militants in Aleppo are notorious terrorists.

It is worth noting that the Russian-led offensive is clearly consistent with UNSC resolution 2254, which states:
... Member States to impede and repress terrorist acts committed, inter alia, by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, the Al-Nusra Front and other individuals, groups, enterprises and organizations associated with al-Qaida or ISIL and other terrorist groups [.. .] and to exterminate the asylums that they organized in a large part of Syria, and it is noted that the above-mentioned cease-fire is not applicable to offensive or defensive actions against these individuals, groups, enterprises and organizations, as set out in phenomenon Syria International Support Group on November 14 2015 years. " (Thanks to Moon of Alabama).


In other words, Moscow is not going to follow any cease-fire that would protect deadly terrorists or undermine UNSC resolution 2254. Russian military operations will continue until ISIS, al-Nusra and other militant terrorists are defeated.

And even so, Kerry did not go down the diplomatic path. In fact, Kerry plans to meet with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Munich 11 February at a meeting of the International Syria Support Group to discuss "all aspects of a Syrian settlement in accordance with UN Security Council resolution 2254."

The emergency meeting underlines the extreme despair of the Obama administration in the face of the inevitable offensive led by Russia. Now it became clear that Obama and his subordinates see the letters on the wall and understand that their sinister plan to use the puppet army to dislodge Assad and split the country into three impotent regions is doomed to failure. Here’s how ISW summarized the Sic Semper Tyrannis website:
“The final terms of the settlement for ending the Syrian civil war will be determined not by the policies of the great powers, but by the military realities. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his allies in Russia and Iran learned this basic principle, although Washington and other Western capitals pinned their hopes on UN-supported negotiations in Geneva, which hit the obstacle only two days after the start, February 1 2016. Russian air strikes and Iranian military personnel promoted President Assad to complete the encirclement of Aleppo, the largest city center in Syria and the opposition stronghold from 2012 ... The complete encirclement of Aleppo will strengthen the humanitarian catastrophe, crush the morale of the opposition, fundamentally hit Turkish strategic ambitions and deprive the opposition the most valuable trump card to the international community. ” (“ISW understands realities in western Syria“, Institute for the Study of War (ISW)


Last week, the war in northern Aleppo changed the battlefield and shifted momentum in favor of the government, but has not yet weakened support for jihadists in cities such as Ankara or Riyadh. In fact, the Saudis offered to deploy ground troops in Syria, provided that they were under US command. As for Turkey, according to The Hill: “The Russian Ministry of Defense accused Turkey of planning a military invasion of Syria”; here is another from the same article:
“The Russian Ministry of Defense has recorded a growing number of signs of the covert preparation of the Turkish armed forces for active operations in Syria,” said the ministry’s spokesman, Igor Konashenkov ... Russia stated that it had “good reasons to suspect Turkey of intensive preparation for a military invasion "To Syria". (The Hill)


Turkish officials have denied preparations for the invasion, but at the same time, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan acknowledged that Turkey will not stand aside if she is invited to participate in a future campaign. Here is from Bloomberg News:
“President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that his country would not repeat the same mistake in Syria as it did in Iraq when it rejected the US demand to join the coalition that overthrew Saddam Hussein.

“We don’t want to fall victim to a similar mistake in Syria,” said the president, recalling how the Turkish parliament rejected the US request to use Turkey’s territory to invade Iraq in 2003. “It is important to see the horizons. What is happening in Syria can only last for a while. At some point, everything should change, ”he told reporters on the way back from a trip to Latin America, according to the Hurriyet newspaper.” (“Erdogan gives a signal that Turkey will not stand aside on the issue of Syria if it is asked to participate,“ Bloomberg)


Although it is not known whether Turkey, Saudi Arabia or the United States would actually invade Syria, it’s obvious - by a panic reaction to the Aleppo entourage - that all three countries understand that their regional ambitions are closely related to jihadists than to the elected government in Damascus. This silent alliance of militants and their sponsors says a lot about the authenticity of the fake Washington War on Terror.

Finally, in less than five months, loyal to the government forces, under the powerful Russian air cover, shifted the balance of power in Syria, forcing thousands of militant terrorists to flee their strongholds in the western part, clearing the way for the return of millions of refugees and displaced locals and hindering a dangerous plan to reshape the country so that it better serves the geopolitical interests of Washington.

The war is far from over, but it is starting to look like Putin’s risky game does bear fruit.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 15 February 2016 18: 12
    99
    What a risky game, what are YOU talking about? Just honestly doing our job. Here is the result.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 15 February 2016 18: 20
      47
      For Russia, the big risk is to cause US displeasure. The reckoning will be scary. The Russian economy will again be torn to shreds, and a few more officials will not be allowed on water procedures in Baden-Baden.
      For an ordinary country, this is usually enough. More precisely, it was enough before. Because Whitney and deft. It turns out that old recipes stop working.
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 February 2016 18: 24
        30
        Russia pragmatically solves its problems and upholds the truth.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 15 February 2016 18: 39
          +8
          UNSC Resolution 2254

          Well, how can you violate the UN Security Council resolution, Russia will not violate such laws even if the United States and the EU close their eyes to such a violation, the law is the law ... belay
        2. Beslan
          Beslan 17 February 2016 18: 19
          +1
          Well, let's say strength is in truth. But what is the truth?
          1. Naum
            Naum 17 February 2016 20: 35
            +1
            Truth is in the presence of Conscience, which dominates over other wishes and reasons. She or there is, and then humanity has a chance to exist. Or it is not there - with a guarantee of rolling to Armageddon. "Everyone will be rewarded for his deeds." This applies not only to individuals, but also to civilizations. He will not find a dozen righteous among people and ...
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      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 15 February 2016 18: 57
        +8
        Quote: Pereira
        For Russia, the big risk is to cause US displeasure. The reckoning will be scary. The Russian economy will again be torn to shreds, and a few more officials will not be allowed on water procedures in Baden-Baden.
        For an ordinary country, this is usually enough. More precisely, it was enough before. Because Whitney and deft. It turns out that old recipes stop working.


        US pleasure matters are not for us. Well, our economy is in shreds, well, this is what we have been hearing and spitting for a year. We will continue further, like someone or not.
        Forgiveness is complicated. And it consists of corpus delicti, guilt, repentance, beg forgiveness and finally forgiveness. We have actions in Syria that the United States can blame us. Well, this is their own business. We thought that we should help cope with ISIS and helped. And then we have the Confrontation with the USA, they are not our god and we do not need their forgiveness.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 15 February 2016 20: 34
          +9
          That's how everyone would argue.
          For our fifth and sixth columns to cause a disapproving look from across the ocean breaking the 11 commandment: Yes, do not disobey, slave, the Great Black Lord.
      4. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 15 February 2016 19: 30
        +3
        Quote: Pereira
        For Russia, the big risk is to cause US displeasure. The reckoning will be scary. The Russian economy will again be torn to shreds, and a few more officials will not be allowed on water procedures in Baden-Baden.
        For an ordinary country, this is usually enough. More precisely, it was enough before. Because Whitney and deft. It turns out that old recipes stop working.


        You would at least emphasize sarcasm, otherwise many inexplicably laughing
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 15 February 2016 20: 30
          13
          I specifically do not mark sarcasm with emoticons. This is how I contribute to the development of the mental abilities of individual members of society. Let them wrinkle the gyrus and at least read the posts (not necessarily mine) to the end.
          If someone is not able to understand he .... he is funny.
          Indeed, in my sarcasm, I have already collected more than one hundred minuses, but this is my principled position. Chewing and putting in your mouth is not for me. I am not a primary school teacher.
      5. meriem1
        meriem1 16 February 2016 07: 36
        +8
        Quote: Pereira
        For Russia, the big risk is to cause US displeasure. The reckoning will be scary. The Russian economy will again be torn to shreds, and a few more officials will not be allowed on water procedures in Baden-Baden.
        For an ordinary country, this is usually enough. More precisely, it was enough before. Because Whitney and deft. It turns out that old recipes stop working.

        Old recipes ??? They worked when the Gaidars with the Gorbachevs and others, others, and others voluptuously swallowed and filled the nonsense that was driven into their ears. As you can see, with "some" resistance, every US thought is a stillborn child. And this can be seen in all undertakings. The effect is only where everything is filled with a sea of ​​blood and dough, which traitors of all stripes are happy to absorb.
      6. Al1977
        Al1977 16 February 2016 10: 22
        +7
        Quote: Pereira
        The Russian economy will again be torn to shreds, and a few more officials will not be allowed on water procedures in Baden-Baden.

        Totally agree!
        With an average salary of 30 rubles or less, no one cares what the euro exchange rate is. People in the outback and do not plan to buy tablets, iPhones, etc. They do not plan to travel the world, there are no plans to ski in the Alps. Yes, and Lada is also a car. Russian people do not need the material benefits of the West .. they only need the government. An ordinary Russian is the main thing. what would the potato, salt and matches.
        The poorer the people, the less dependent on the West. So their efforts lead to exactly the opposite result. And the poorer, the more people believe that some Obama is to blame, and Putin is almost the savior of the world and Russia. So everyone is with their own people. Judo Putin ... harnessed the energy of the West for his own good. Even in the fall of the economy there are pluses ... or "opportunities", as he correctly said ... just did not say for whom.
      7. Pomeranian
        Pomeranian 17 February 2016 14: 02
        0
        Quote: Pereira
        It turns out that old recipes stop working.

        They will work while in Russia graduates of the Higher School of Economics rule the business
      8. Beslan
        Beslan 17 February 2016 18: 18
        0
        Does this also threaten the next rise in prices and a decrease in the level of income of Russians? Sanctions - ugh, but their idiots and "geniuses" from the government are much more dangerous.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 15 February 2016 18: 30
      25
      This silent alliance of militants and their sponsors says a lot about the authenticity of the fake Washington war on terror.

      So now they whine about the insidious Putin, the money is buried in the sand.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 15 February 2016 19: 00
        0
        Quote: vovanpain
        This silent alliance of militants and their sponsors says a lot about the authenticity of the fake Washington war on terror.

        So now they whine about the insidious Putin, the money is buried in the sand.

        Pinocchio need to watch during. Field of miracles is to us. And the sand in Yalta is no worse.
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 15 February 2016 18: 51
      14
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What a risky game, what are YOU talking about?


      To prevent the Westerners from calling our actions in Syria a "game", we must conclude with Assad (before it's too late) a full-fledged agreement on mutual assistance, then any violation of the borders of Syria will be punished legally. yes
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 16 February 2016 10: 51
        +4
        Quote: Lelek
        To prevent the Westerners from calling our actions in Syria a "game", we must conclude with Assad (before it's too late) a full-fledged agreement on mutual assistance, then any violation of the borders of Syria will be punished legally.

        That's right! As soon as Lavrov and Putin had not guessed ... they would have come here more often. There are so many sensible advice here, both about Syria and how to lead the world in general ... If Putin would ask here, "People, let's bomb Turkey" - everyone would say "Yes !!!!!" and everyone, everyone is happy, no games. How elementary it is ... Why did they not guess to do this?
      2. cedar
        cedar 16 February 2016 12: 29
        +6
        "... When I was in Damascus in March 2013 and met with the Syrian leaders, to my question:" Does the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation between the USSR and Syria remain in force? " they answered in the affirmative.
        The same answer was given to me by Russian diplomats. And this is understandable: Russia is the successor to the Soviet Union!
        I will publish this Agreement again. It turns out that many Russians know nothing about him. They do not know about the very important article 6, which let me quote first of all:
        “Article 6
        In the event of situations that threaten the peace or security of one of the Parties or threaten peace or violate world peace and security, the High Contracting Parties will immediately come into contact with each other in order to coordinate their positions and cooperation to eliminate the threat and restore peace ".

        And when you read it, pay attention to how accurate and relevant the wording of this Treaty is, which speaks of imperialism, neo-colonialism, Zionism, and their accomplices. "
        http://maxpark.com/community/2496/content/2211405
      3. Syrdon
        Syrdon 17 February 2016 11: 07
        0
        so it’s kind of like it was concluded back in Soviet times. Brezhnev and dad Assad, Hafez concluded)) there is everything and help and military cover and other, other, other))
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 15 February 2016 18: 55
      +3
      Whitney is wrong, this is not a risky game, this is a solid calculation. There are simply no other options for the development of events there.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 15 February 2016 18: 58
      16
      If only Russia did not flinch at the last moment, as has already happened more than once. Aleppo must be taken, and do not give a damn about the Americans and other Saudis, otherwise all our previous successes in Syria will be down the drain. It is necessary to crush the IS, despite the screams from Washington, all the same, the Americans in Syria are helpless and cannot really harm us. And Western sanctions against Russia will remain in any situation, even if we join the same coalition with the United States. So we have nothing to lose in Syria, only forward and with a song under the red banner.
    6. tol100v
      tol100v 15 February 2016 19: 19
      +7
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What a risky game, what are YOU talking about? Just honestly doing our job. Here is the result.

      Your truth! Russia is doing business. But the coalition (cloalition) is engaged in dangerous games for its health. And games with fire, as you know, are not brought to good!
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 15 February 2016 22: 55
      +1
      Putin's risky game in Aleppo is paying off (CounterPunch, USA)

      Partners, and you doubted? If the Russians take it seriously, the result will be anyway hi
    8. SveTok
      SveTok 17 February 2016 08: 58
      0
      It looks like the United States will bend the second time after Vietnam.
    9. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 17 February 2016 12: 16
      0
      military operations in other states are always a risk.
    10. Beslan
      Beslan 17 February 2016 18: 16
      0
      And thrice fair play can be very risky, especially when not a direct player takes risks.
    11. ordinary
      ordinary 18 February 2016 06: 58
      0
      just in the hole! am
    12. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 18 February 2016 15: 03
      0
      And they have one thing in mind .... if Russia is doing something well, then it has a secret intent. Judged by themselves.
  2. 73bor
    73bor 15 February 2016 18: 17
    +3
    The one who can do something, does, and does everything to the conscience. The West has already done EVERYTHING, now we remove it for ZA - AMI!
  3. seti
    seti 15 February 2016 18: 17
    +4
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    What a risky game, what are YOU talking about? Just honestly doing our job. Here is the result.

    Totally agree
  4. izya top
    izya top 15 February 2016 18: 20
    31
    ISIS, Jabhat al-Nusra, Jaish al-Mujaheddin, Harakat Nuriddin al-Zinki and Harakat al-Sham
    1. quote
      quote 15 February 2016 18: 53
      11
      Gorgeous caricature! Let the White House hang on all the walls!
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 15 February 2016 22: 00
        +4
        The caricature is beyond praise, without a single word the whole essence is revealed.

        Is it possible to put the remote control on the side of the militants washing buttons that press the buttons, but this will already be a crush: both the states, the Turks and the Saudis and Merkel are all eager to wash the militants.
    2. nomadman
      nomadman 16 February 2016 08: 06
      +1
      + 100
      great caricature
  5. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 15 February 2016 18: 22
    +8
    And finally, in less than five months, forces loyal to the government, under powerful air cover from Russia, have shifted the balance of forces in Syria, forcing thousands of militant terrorists to flee their strongholds in the western part, clearing the way for the return of millions of refugees and displaced locals, etc.By obstructing the dangerous plan of redrawing the country so that it better serves Washington’s geopolitical interests.

    But I really liked that. And then all Russia is to blame for all their "troubles".
  6. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 15 February 2016 18: 25
    14
    "... Putin's risky game ..."
    We do not play. And we do not advise you!
    But what a rout of Washington politics!
    And now let all Merkel, Hollande, Cameron and others remember what nonsense they were carrying!
    But they won’t remember - it would be necessary to recall, literally, with quotes!
    But Obama with the company would be better to shoot himself.
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 15 February 2016 21: 57
      +3
      Quote: tehnokrat
      But what a rout of Washington politics!

      The Americans will not leave so easily, no matter how tomorrow they move to plan "B" or "C", they calculate their policy for years.
    2. akims
      akims 16 February 2016 00: 21
      +5
      Rather, the iron will shoot itself than the barn, in the sense of a hut.
  7. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 15 February 2016 18: 28
    +9
    “Don't blame me,” Kerry said. “Blame the opposition. Amer Ikos hacked back lol They created a gang of cutthroats with Turkey, but now they’ve left the aisles and launched a fart laughing Normul good . In short, everyone is to blame but not THEY.
    1. DMB_95
      DMB_95 15 February 2016 19: 04
      +9
      But in Syria only 5-6 dozen of our planes are fighting, mainly. And what an effect! The Turks would have to think about the strength of the Russian Army before getting into Syria. Behind them, there will be no calm rear, if that ...
  8. square
    square 15 February 2016 18: 28
    +7
    The United States seems to be entangled in its allies. They now have a swan, cancer, and pike. And all because allies are chosen for short-term interests, and not in spirit.
    1. Name classified
      Name classified 16 February 2016 17: 07
      +1
      And they are not far removed from the British Empire, which, as you know, has no permanent allies, has permanent interests.
      However - did they leave?
  9. BOB044
    BOB044 15 February 2016 18: 30
    +4
    Yes, they placed the Russian Air Force and the Syrian army in the pocket of the US coalition of feces. It’s not nice to them, but what can you do. They will know.
  10. novobranets
    novobranets 15 February 2016 18: 39
    +4
    What other game? Russia is pursuing an open and consistent policy of supporting its old partner, as it is now fashionable to say, which, by the way, is completely legal from the point of view of international law and the UN Charter. But are the actions of the Ams and Turks legal, together with their lackeys - the Saud, etc., also the Poles with the banderlog imagines themselves to be tough fighters and to "help" America there too? I don’t think no one called them to Syria, unlike Russia, which acts at the request of the legitimate government.
  11. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 15 February 2016 18: 46
    +7
    "The risky game" - will begin when we will return Alaska! And here - just a fight against wickedness.
  12. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 15 February 2016 18: 47
    +4
    UN resolutions violate nizya!
    Water the barmaley to the last!
    Now is the very moment to demonstrate some new weapons. We still have solid arguments in the stash, such as launching missiles from strategists or any other surprises?
  13. Hooks
    Hooks 15 February 2016 18: 48
    +9
    "Putin's risky game ..." It looks like the games are already over. Any war ends in victory. And the one who has endured more than the enemy will win. And therefore, only the Syrians are worthy of victory.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 February 2016 19: 20
      +5
      Quote: Hooks
      "Putin's risky game ..." It looks like the games are already over. Any war ends in victory. And the one who has endured more than the enemy will win. And therefore, only the Syrians are worthy of victory.

      But all these guys are Nonsense. We will win again. And the winners will be the United States. Yes Yes.
      1. Why did they light the fire? Controlled chaos. Cheap oil to the states, expensive oil shale oil to load, in order to bring down its price. Yes, Syria, Iraq, the Saudis and the dwarfs ... But it's spray. There is a game more interesting.
      2. For the US to survive in the Super Crisis, they need to overwhelm either China, or the Russian Federation, or the EU. Until recently, it was preferable to overwhelm us, it was considered a weak link. Due to the weakness of their mental abilities, they considered that the economy is everything, but then a bummer, we are not given.
      3. If we roll out ISIS, the remnants will rush to Turkey and arrange a caliphate there. There is no oil there. Yes, she is not needed. The main thing is logistics. Through the "soft underbelly of Europe-Balkans" to reach their bases throughout Europe.
      4. The United States lost a competitor in production, and for one they threw us a pig under the fence, but what sizes, from Europe.
      1. volgroo
        volgroo 16 February 2016 18: 26
        0
        Everything will turn out to benefit Russia. You won’t be able to win with the fool Ivan.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 February 2016 20: 19
      0
      Quote: Hooks
      "Putin's risky game ..." It looks like the games are already over. Any war ends in victory. And the one who has endured more than the enemy will win. And therefore, only the Syrians are worthy of victory.

      In continuation to the previous koment.
      After defeating ISIS in Syria, let's go beat ISIS to Turkey. And there we will release the Kurds from the butcher Erdogan. We’ll also save him from ISIS, there will be laughter. Armenians - Ararat, Greeks - Constantinople. Yes Yes. There is no justice in the world. All NATA will stand on its hind legs. But it is possible for the Greeks to claim not a passage, but a base in the Dardanelles, as a compromise.
      1. Name classified
        Name classified 16 February 2016 17: 11
        +2
        Take Constantinople from a NATO country to give it to a NATO country? The meaning of this action eludes me ...
  14. parafoiler
    parafoiler 15 February 2016 18: 51
    +6
    Quote: square
    The United States seems to be entangled in its allies. They now have a swan, cancer, and pike. And all because allies are chosen for short-term interests, and not in spirit.


    Yeah: once a pike swan cancer ...)))
  15. atamankko
    atamankko 15 February 2016 18: 54
    +2
    This is not a game, this is a struggle of minds and Syria is on top here.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 16 February 2016 10: 33
      0
      Quote: atamankko
      This is not a game, this is a struggle of minds and Syria is on top here.

      Can you explain the essence of the game? And then according to the president they say that we simply beat terrorists. What is the game of minds? What is the interest of the USA and what is the interest of Russia. And if there is economic interest, or just someone x .. longer? Will Russian citizens win as a result? When to wait for the effect? Or the main thing is that ISIS would not attack Russia, with its subsequent destruction?
  16. Legionnaire
    Legionnaire 15 February 2016 19: 10
    +2
    Yes, we are still there in the fight for the good of the sleeves that we really didn’t roll up ...) the air group is now the minimum necessary, with the possibility of building up. It will be necessary - add. Both on earth and in heaven) ..
  17. Uhalus
    Uhalus 15 February 2016 19: 14
    +4
    I am happy. It remains to crush the reptiles, and then to sort out the little people, to catch the hidden ones, especially among officials.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 February 2016 19: 54
    +4
    The Merikos are already writing about the victory of the Syrian army in Aleppo. This is so important that after this victory, Matrasia would have to "roll back" her idiotic project with "moderate opposition" and the overthrow of Assad. For pragmatic reasons. Further Raqqa, and the remnants of the barmaley stomp into the striped-eared zone of responsibility - to Iraq. And then we will see.
  19. vladeinord
    vladeinord 15 February 2016 20: 14
    +2
    Crush them Russia, DAVI !!!
  20. Alex ..
    Alex .. 15 February 2016 20: 59
    +4
    Do they still think they are playing with them? Fucking b ... wassat
  21. Senior manager
    Senior manager 15 February 2016 22: 28
    0
    The process is going in the direction we need, but so far there is no victory, defeats are exceptional too, local successes. What URA I do not understand? Toropiza is not a nada.
  22. denni
    denni 15 February 2016 22: 57
    +4
    Retired US Army Colonel David M. Glantz is one of the most famous Western researchers of the Great Patriotic War. Having begun his academic career at the height of the Cold War, and while being a career American soldier, researcher at the research center at the US Army Military College, he, nevertheless, always emphasized in his many monographs the decisive role of the Soviet Union and the Red Army in defeating the German fascist Wehrmacht in the second world war.


    And it happens. Glory to the Amer historian!
    https://news.mail.ru/society/24850890/?frommail=10
  23. asiat_61
    asiat_61 16 February 2016 00: 10
    +2
    to Aleppo's entourage - that all three countries understand that their regional ambitions are closely related to jihadists rather than to the elected government in Damascus. This silent alliance of militants and their sponsors says a lot about the authenticity of the fake Washington war on terror. End of quote .__
    Even some people are telling the truth.
  24. denni
    denni 16 February 2016 00: 53
    0
    Quote: denni
    Retired US Army Colonel David M. Glantz is one of the most famous Western researchers of the Great Patriotic War. Having begun his academic career at the height of the Cold War, and while being a career American soldier, researcher at the research center at the US Army Military College, he, nevertheless, always emphasized in his many monographs the decisive role of the Soviet Union and the Red Army in defeating the German fascist Wehrmacht in the second world war.


    And it happens. Glory to the Amer historian!
    https://news.mail.ru/society/24850890/?frommail=10


    American military historian awarded Russian Defense Ministry medal
  25. renics
    renics 16 February 2016 03: 57
    +1
    (Blame the opposition. It was they who did not want negotiations and did not want a ceasefire) This suggests that this is not the opposition, but ordinary gangs that are not capable of any independent actions, and the Americans conducted them until this day. And when it became clear that the negotiations were starting, they were afraid that America would simply take them and set them up and throw them, but I want to live.
  26. Belousov
    Belousov 16 February 2016 08: 08
    +2
    For the "exceptional", any war is a game. Because they have never seen a war on their territory am For them, this is entertainment, a show by a zombie creator and nothing more.
    1. Trigger-Happy
      Trigger-Happy 16 February 2016 11: 59
      0
      Exactly, - the territory that they took from the indigenous people. They don’t even have the concept of Homeland, and hence all the consequences !!!
  27. guzik007
    guzik007 16 February 2016 12: 10
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    The good news is that it finally dawned on the Kremlin that even when negotiating with these, you yourself know with whom, everything you had in mind should be brought to an end. Personally, I always taught my children — before doing — think — whether it’s worth it. But if you decide, finish it to the end.
  28. Scout
    Scout 16 February 2016 14: 14
    0
    according to judo rules, let the opponent be the first to show aggression, rush at you and \ it will be a miscalculation ... Anyone who attacked runs the risk of directing the energy of his blow into his forehead, Waiting tactics and teasing are the most correct tactics in this situation. If there is no war to avoid making it clear to the enemy that he is stronger and smarter. I think that this happened during the negotiations. Recognizing themselves, the negotiators refused to talk further, thereby opening up to the strike.
  29. Old warrior
    Old warrior 16 February 2016 17: 06
    0
    Everything is correct. We will not destroy in Syria, they will be seized by us.
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  31. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 16 February 2016 18: 15
    0
    "internationally recognized terrorists"- actually this is a masterpiece of verbiage!
    Internationally unrecognized terrorists cry bitterly ...
  32. trantor
    trantor 16 February 2016 18: 53
    +1
    That is why Moscow refused to introduce a ceasefire during the negotiations in Geneva.

    No truces. Not for a day, not for an hour, not for a minute - they were already in Chechnya, it’s good that the lesson has been learned.
  33. nivander
    nivander 17 February 2016 06: 57
    +1
    can pretend to be dead?
  34. igorka357
    igorka357 17 February 2016 07: 05
    0
    "Russian military operations", how proudly it all sounds!
  35. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 February 2016 07: 12
    0
    Firstly, risk is a noble cause, and secondly, what is the risk? If the West behaves like an unbridled down, then it risks losing everything, including its miserable head.
  36. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 17 February 2016 11: 44
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    having cut out all the terrorist groups of thugs, Assad, I think, it will be possible to sit with moderate opposition at the negotiating table - to sign their surrender.
  37. Pavlik90210
    Pavlik90210 17 February 2016 19: 19
    0
    An integral part of the foreign policy of the Russian Federation is JUSTICE. We are waiting for the military tribunal, at least for Erdogan!
  38. Balagan
    Balagan 18 February 2016 02: 40
    0
    Aleppo is a key city. Untie this knot - the course of the campaign will change significantly.
  39. dzzen
    dzzen 18 February 2016 07: 07
    0
    All bearded hares in dust and flour, look at the interview of Marat Musin for 2012, where he talks about his communication with captured militants, they all say that when they win in Syria, the imams told them to go to Russia, because they supposedly insult and oppress Muslims there . Therefore, the more militants are transferred to a state of steam, the calmer it will be on the borders of Russia and in the countries belonging to the CSTO.