Russia is invited to the war

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Not every invitation can be refused, for example, an invitation to war. However, you can choose weapon and the battlefield. Russia chose VKS and Syrian theater of operations.



Something has changed dramatically in the world after 30 September 2015, when the Russian Aerospace Force, as always, unexpectedly for the United States, landed in Syria in the province of Latakia. After that, the sluggish confrontation between Russia and Washington and the West in general began to worsen.

The scandal with the loud words “game over” ended the EU-Russia negotiations on the Euro-Association of Ukraine, and not Russia said them. In our opinion, the Euro-Association of Ukraine would lead to the Euro-Association and Russia de facto, if it had not abolished the FTA with Ukraine, which was what the European bureaucrats sought. Russia's cessation of the FTA with Ukraine made the Euro-association of the latter senseless, however, what did they count on? That's so brazenly solve the economic problems of Europe at the expense of Russia? This calculation itself is striking in its depth, and the failure of negotiations - a childishly offended reaction.

The formal end of the Minsk agreements on Ukraine 1 January 2016, and then their verbal extension was crowned with the Kaliningrad Summit of Nuland - Surkov on the unexpected initiative of the American side. According to Surkov’s Assistant to the President of Russia, this was a “brainstorming”, Western newspapers ascribed to the US Assistant Secretary of State the rescuer of the world gesture, she warned Russia about the “inevitable attack by NATO”. If Russia does not accept a certain ultimatum?

By the way, shortly after the Kaliningrad summit, the NATO attack on Russia did happen - a propaganda attack. The BBC acted as shock information troops, bombarding with scandalous television films the commander-in-chief of Russia, President Vladimir Putin. Having spat on his own reputation, the former solid edition made the most horrible accusations of the murder of the agent MI-6 Litvinenko in London, and corruption in Russia against V. Putin. Having thought it, it also broke out with a film about a possible Russian nuclear attack on one of the western countries.

What pressure was put on the BBC? Probably no less than the US State Department itself, along with hints of its editorial MI-6 about the fate of unfortunate Litvinenko, as well as the untimely death of a British lord, the owner of the Abracadabra nightclub, which Litvinenko visited before meeting with Moscow “FSB agents”, leaving an ominous polonium trace MI-6 ...

However, such a powerful propaganda attack by NATO, supplemented by the attack by Turkey of the Russian Su-24 in the skies of Syria, with a refusal to apologize and threats to carry out an attack on Syria, do not make any impression on Russia. She leads some of her own game, and only strengthens the grouping of the VKS in Syria, and alerts the troops of the South-Western military district.

Russia froze the Ukrainian ground where they invited her to make war, Z. Brzezinski and other gray American cardinals frankly wrote about this, because there is no point in fighting a dog: you need to fight a dog owner. On the other hand, Ukraine would have turned into “Syria” ... Therefore, despite the already inhuman doses of Russophobia, which Bandera’s media is driving into Ukrainians, apparently on the recommendation of the CIA, Russia does not react to this hysteria.

But in Syria, through Syria, the American owner of Bandera can be touched for sensitive oil-bearing places. In Syria, Russia is ready to fight, understood in Washington, and to fight by its own rules, acting as a VKS scalpel, relying on the army of the legitimate president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad and other regional forces.

Western interests in Syria are already seriously undermined, Syrian troops are reaching the Turkish border, the key foothold of pro-Turkish “moderate terrorists” - Aleppo is on the verge of encirclement, and no maneuvers of Turkish troops on the border result in a decrease in the number of strikes by the Russian AF and suspension of the Syrian army.

Moreover, Washington reversed. There is no real strengthening of the American grouping around Syria, on the contrary, the United States seems to be throwing Turkey, allegedly because of disagreements over the Syrian Kurds, and earlier they had distanced themselves from Saudi Arabia, allegedly because of the execution by the Saudis of Sheikh al-Nimr.

Perhaps America is stunned somewhere in the depths of its White House: she realized that Russia was ready to fight seriously on American territory too, when the Russian Aerospace Forces unexpectedly and fearlessly landed in Syria when there were only a few weeks left before the fall of Bashar Assad. That is, the VKS of the Russian Federation landed in Syria literally into hell ... It clearly indicated that Russia would not discuss its actions with anyone, want to fight - please, at least until Washington ...

Hence the propaganda hysteria of the BBC: everything that has been acquired by unsustainable labor in the Middle East is crumbling! Americans are more restrained: they are not ready to fight on their territory with Russia, and they distance themselves from Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

So, Russia agreed to the war in Syria. The general and analyst Leonid Ivashov in the program of V. Solovyov from 07.02.2016 said that he had recently been to Iran, and then made a prediction: "What is happening is the prologue to a big war in the Middle East." If Turkey and Saudi Arabia invade Syria, Russia will end up with the endlessly incomprehensible truth: ISIS is the forward unit of Erdogan, and the al-Nusra group is al-Qaida, raised by Saudi Arabia, and will offer the West to make its choice.

The next Munich Security Conference did not bring visible results, neither in Ukraine nor in Syria, most likely, there are no invisible ones either. However, there were no harsh words and speeches. Presidents and world premieres of the Duma think ...

However, Dmitry Medvedev made one significant statement: “Almost every day we are declared the most terrible threat for NATO as a whole, now separately for Europe, now for America and other countries. They make frightening films in which Russians start nuclear war. I sometimes think: are we in 2016 today or in 1962? "
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  1. +115
    15 February 2016 07: 07
    Not everything is so rosy and wonderful about Washington's "reverse gear". Still to come, these jackals are just pondering new tactics. The Turks have already begun a gradual introduction of troops into Syrian territory, the grouping will be strengthened, perhaps implicitly, gradually. Now they will have to fight not with the furry Makhnovists, but with quite regular Turkish troops. Hence the conclusion - it is necessary to intensify the discord between the Turks and Kurds in Turkey itself, so that they have no time to deal with external problems, at least some time, sufficient to clear the Syrian territory of gangs and to strengthen the borders.
    1. -114
      15 February 2016 08: 12
      Of course, the Turks will send their volunteers, like Russia to the Donbass. Here, as they say, one-one. Like Russia, it will not admit this either. And if they still have Buk-type air defense, then Russian planes will be afraid to fly in to bomb them.
      1. +14
        15 February 2016 08: 37
        Everything is in my opinion, NATO, the United States, the USA understood and understood, Russia will go to the end! War is war, it’s their choice, now they’re just in shock, they understand the golden times have passed for them.
        1. +7
          15 February 2016 09: 56
          War with Turkey is very undesirable for us, for obvious reasons.
          1. +25
            15 February 2016 18: 11
            For us, war is nowhere desirable for obvious reasons — people are dying. But ... if necessary.
            1. +2
              15 February 2016 20: 24
              Russia will not discuss its actions with anyone, if you want to fight, please, even to Washington ...


              Everything has been said, golden words, and now scratch your turnips, dear "partners" ... request
              1. 0
                16 February 2016 12: 54
                Gold?
                Have you seen the war?
                Maybe mines were torn in your yard .....?
                Maybe it was your loved ones taken to the front, and returned two medals?
                QUESTION: Where will YOU be when it starts? You can’t sit on the Internet))))
                And can you get to Washington if you can’t even bring up children properly? d that there are children, you don’t know how to behave either at home or next to other people ....
                1. +8
                  16 February 2016 13: 17
                  Quote: apostoll
                  Have you seen the war?

                  Ask about it those who create gangs of terrorists in the Middle East, who finance the fifth column in our country, who send killers to the Caucasus, who seek to deploy their missiles near our border, who unleashed a war in Ukraine.
                2. 0
                  16 February 2016 14: 30
                  not only saw and fought it, you’ve seen enough of the kin, but you’ll have to return to reality soon and we will help you with this, we are responsible for those who have tamed your mother
                3. 0
                  17 February 2016 18: 32
                  yes you yourself where you will be.
        2. +3
          15 February 2016 10: 00
          It is very important that "the third world ..." Medvedev uttered out loud. Previously, the prime minister (s) did not speak at all on foreign policy issues, not their responsibility.
          1. +8
            15 February 2016 11: 34
            Quote: vyinemeynen
            It is very important that "the third world ..." Medvedev uttered out loud. Previously, the prime minister (s) did not speak at all on foreign policy issues, not their responsibility.

            However, Dmitry Medvedev made one significant statement: “Almost every day we are declared the most terrible threat for NATO as a whole, now separately for Europe, now for America and other countries. They make frightening films in which Russians start nuclear war. I sometimes think: are we in 2016 today or in 1962? "
            Here he said correctly, or let's be friends guys or broads.
        3. +7
          15 February 2016 19: 29
          Yes, what shock they are, what are you talking about ...? Do not need these hat-tinging nonsense. There is a large-scale political battle and it is foolish to draw conclusions about the course of the whole game on separate clashes. Ukraine, like Syria, is not a bad springboard for inciting Russophobia. And the EU and the USA have a lot of answer options up to the declaration of war from Turkey, which Ukraine will join with pleasure and I think it isn’t alone. favorable situation. The article smacks of populism.
          1. +4
            16 February 2016 10: 57
            Everything is correct. In my opinion, there is targeted political pressure on Russia from Europe, the United States, NATO, Turkey and smaller characters to undermine the positions of Putin and our elite. Despite what is happening in the Middle East, the likelihood of a big war is not great (IMHO). Economic sanctions and Russia's involvement in armed conflicts, Russophobia, etc. aimed at increasing the dissatisfaction of Russian citizens with their government. In general, they are pushing people to the "orange abyss". But not salary payments and job cuts, higher prices, general impoverishment and European propaganda do not add a rating to our authorities.
            1. +2
              16 February 2016 20: 04
              Quote: Road Runer
              Everything is correct. Economic sanctions and Russia's involvement in armed conflicts, Russophobia, etc. aimed at increasing the dissatisfaction of Russian citizens with their government. In general, they are pushing people to the "orange abyss". But not salary payments and job cuts, higher prices, general impoverishment and European propaganda do not add a rating to our authorities.

              Rating of our authorities ... Excuse me, what rating can we talk about if there is a systematic sabotage of the president’s orders? What rating should be in power different from the minus if all actions are aimed at weakening Russia. pushing them against a friend for any reason? Yes, of course the situation is pumping up from abroad, but if our rulers were not thinking about their foreign assets but about citizens whose lives they systematically drop into the abyss, thereby giving an excellent opportunity to arrange a maidan in Russia by 18. as it seems to me alone, to tighten and legitimize the measure of responsibility, the power of those in power, that now the governors are being jailed on a unit is unfortunately as it seems to me a show. or led anti-Soviet activities, went to Solovki, so long as we do not realize this and return to e the orange plague will not be able to defeat that model of punishment, because it can only be burned with a hot iron.
              1. -1
                17 February 2016 10: 39
                Here everyone is scolding our authorities, deputies and ministers. And Putin seems to be out of business. He's a fine fellow, he says the right words, they don't follow his orders. Forgive me, isn't he at the head of this entire elite ?! Doesn't he have real power ?! Didn't he gather all this gang of thieves headed by Edrom ?! Doesn't he patronize the oligarchs who robbed the country ?! Are not his signatures on the laws that are the last of the common people ?! You can go on for a long time. Therefore, if the authorities, headed by the GDP, do not really begin to invest resources in the people, then we will be within easy reach of the "orange" or any other color of the revolution.
          2. +1
            16 February 2016 15: 07
            > And the EU and the US have a lot of options

            Americans, like the British, with serious rivals like to fight with the wrong hands, they fight extremely rarely with their own hands, say in a very large coalition, like in the Crimean War or WWII. But such a coalition does not dance in any way - the Russian Federation is friends with China, Ukraine, Poland and Turkey are not even rivals for the Russian Federation together.

            And Europe does not burn with any desire to fight with Russia in any coalition. The elimination of militancy by the Germans is necessary for the United States to control them, but it also makes today's Germans very bad warriors, especially with the Russian Federation. And if you subtract Germany from NATO, only the British, French and Turks remain there - that is, NATO is useless for cannon fodder for the USA. Moreover, as the current course of the presidential race shows, the bulk of the US population does not already see a mortal enemy in the Russian Federation, and it will not be possible to spin it into a serious war, as happened in WWII

            If, because of Turkey, a clash with the United States and NATO does take place, the clash will be bloody, but limited - because on a global scale, all NATO countries and the United States themselves do not want to fight with the Russians
            1. +1
              16 February 2016 22: 42
              No one will fight with the Russian Federation. They just wait until the Reserve Fund runs out and the people make a revolution. Unfortunately, everything goes to this. In addition, our officials are stealing, and Putin cannot do anything about it. It is necessary to tighten penalties for theft immediately and remove all thieves from power. While thieves will sit in power, the country will not rise. Indeed, in the difficult economic situation, theft of state money is subversive activity, and those who steal are actually assistants to the USA and the EU.
        4. +1
          16 February 2016 22: 37
          We can’t start a war now. Not ready. Otherwise, 41 years will be repeated. Reminds now the whole situation before the Great Patriotic War. The only difference is that our rear is not cleaned, the youth is not so motivated, there is no common idea. To see this, half of the bureaucratic apparatus must be sent to Kolyma with a crowbar and an ax in hand to prove love for the Motherland. So an open collision may end up in the fact that we are FORCED to use nuclear weapons. In order for us to be ready, the whole country needs 3 years to play sports intensively, to replace stupid textbooks in schools, paid by Western uncles and to make fundamental changes to the Constitution.
      2. +6
        15 February 2016 09: 14
        And what is there to not recognize - these are not regular troops. Volunteers are a voluntary matter (at least officially) and the state is not appropriate here.
        1. +1
          15 February 2016 16: 30
          Quote: Blondy
          Blonde's dream: eh, that’s how the States should be invited to the war (naturally, aside, to stay away).

          To the war with "Nagliya".
        2. 0
          15 February 2016 20: 11
          What about private military companies. In principle, volunteers. And the state has nothing to do with it.
      3. -6
        15 February 2016 09: 25
        you forgot about the hibs and stuff, it’s going to cover the beech and the rest
      4. +1
        15 February 2016 10: 19
        On "beeches" or analogs, you can bomb from your space or from ships, if they are in Syria.
      5. Old
        +17
        15 February 2016 11: 56
        Comparison with the Donbass looks convincing only externally. The more interesting will be the analysis of the results. Donbass for Ukraine is lost, and it seems to me that this is not the first and not the last loss. And for Turkey, the loss of the eastern territories populated by Kurds is already shining. Friends in misfortune)
      6. +1
        15 February 2016 22: 27
        Quote: kuz363
        And if they still have Buk type air defense

        Russia is threatened with Russian weapons. And where will they get it? From Ukraine? So there is nothing new there.
      7. +2
        15 February 2016 22: 54
        about the Russian planes are afraid to fly in - I doubt they flew in Afghanistan and Vietnam (though the USSR was then, but I think the same school, but the equipment is better) ...
      8. 0
        16 February 2016 13: 31
        Quote: kuz363
        Of course, the Turks will send their volunteers, like Russia to the Donbass. Here, as they say, one-one. Like Russia, it will not admit this either. And if they still have Buk-type air defense, then Russian planes will be afraid to fly in to bomb them.

        The situation is slightly different - Russia is there at the invitation of the government. And any air defense system that appears on the territory of ISIS will be suppressed and destroyed, because any missile defense system is only good as a well-designed and layered system.
        A single complex is dangerous only as long as opponents do not know about its presence. And they learn about him after the first inclusion.
      9. +1
        16 February 2016 14: 27
        and what Bandera forgot here, well, scat in your pigsty
      10. +1
        16 February 2016 15: 06
        Quote: kuz363
        Buk type air defense, then the Russian planes are afraid to fly in to bomb them.

        See an expert ...
    2. +13
      15 February 2016 09: 18
      Blonde's dream: eh, that’s how the States should be invited to the war (naturally, aside, to stay away).
    3. +6
      15 February 2016 11: 06
      "Regular Turkish troops" have not shown themselves anywhere, except for the suppression of the Kurds. And what they are on the battlefield, we'll see ...
    4. +2
      15 February 2016 13: 07
      In January, the Turks carried out a "capital" purge of the Kurds in the border areas throughout their territory. Now, when the rear is more or less calm, they will conduct a military operation. The main thing for them is to keep Aleppo
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    5. +1
      16 February 2016 14: 26
      in order to win us, you need to fight with us and to fight so as to mobilize the entire population of your countries, just like in the Great Patriotic War, but the Americans couldn’t fight, then now they can’t do it all the more. Putin already said, attack us, we’ll hit it like a snake under the pitchfork
    6. 0
      16 February 2016 14: 33
      I agree completely. These are thinking how to make a trick and at the same time so as not to lose anything, or even better to get it.
    7. 0
      16 February 2016 22: 35
      Do not ponder but have already pondered. We decided to drag in a long conflict.
  2. +26
    15 February 2016 07: 15
    There is no backing. They will fight in the wrong hands and at the same time pretend what kind of coordination of actions and cooperation. Money invested, reputation undermined, Turks fighters fed. Unfortunately, everything difficult is to come.
  3. +15
    15 February 2016 07: 17
    The article is a statement of fact, concisely and to the very point, but nothing new in terms of providing information to the reader.
  4. +8
    15 February 2016 07: 17
    along the way, the "big game" is still just beginning. there will be a meat grinder if the Turks and Saudis still start fighting in Syria. hi
    1. +9
      15 February 2016 07: 56
      I think that the Turks themselves do not decide anything, no matter how they say about Erdogan that he acts on his own, yet he is being directed.
      1. +2
        15 February 2016 15: 22
        I agree and add, if there hadn’t been behind Nata, Erdogan would not have behaved so brazenly and there would have been no provocations.
    2. 0
      16 February 2016 13: 49
      What will Iran and Syria have to align the runways of the airfields of Turkey and the Saudis to the state of the lunar-Martian landscape with the help of "it is not clear" from where it came from highly effective weapons.
  5. +9
    15 February 2016 07: 23
    Moreover, Washington backed up.


    I would not be so categorical. These meerkato snakes will attack us and sting more than once. I think that is still to come.
  6. +29
    15 February 2016 07: 26
    "Moreover, Washington backpedaled." - well, it's unlikely. smile
    Americans are just redefining plans and nothing more. Why would they back up then? They are doing fine so far. Yes, Syria did not fall. The plans did not work as they should. But the game is not over. Well, there’s nothing else over there Sultan. Although he’s frantic and a little frostbitten, he’ll have enough for one jerk, and there you see the cards will change, even if the Sultan suddenly work in Syria (duck is not particularly a pity). After all, do not sit the right word and do not wait until the last bearded bear bury in the sand. And so the Sultan pinches the bear, and he gets lucky and completely expels him back. In general, anything but reverse gear. A more likely indirect war of Turkey and the Russian Federation. Naturally, the flag will be exclusively Syrian on military equipment ....
    1. +3
      15 February 2016 08: 34
      What do you think the Turkish generals are eager to get involved in the war, Erdogan frightened them, and even when the Russian base in Armenia is not at all comfortable in your rear besides the Kurds!
    2. +2
      15 February 2016 10: 43
      And so the Sultan pinches the bear, and he gets lucky and completely expels him back.
      He certainly won’t drive back, but about pinching, this is what my grandmother said in two. More likely that: Sultan will suddenly work in Syriaall of a sudden, power will change there, and there may well happen a way out of NATO.
    3. +7
      15 February 2016 11: 22
      Quote: cobra77
      Why would they back up then? They are doing fine so far.

      Yes, frankly, they have nothing good.
      As US presidential candidate Trump said, "America has spent 15 trillion dollars on the war, starting with Iraq to this day! And what is the result? Where did America achieve the result? Nowhere !.
      Here is perhaps the best assessment of their achievements!
      All this mess was started by military corporations, which became beneficiaries of the war having received the above-mentioned amount of 15 trillion.
      Corporations won, and America lost, both in geopolitics and in maintaining the image of the world "overseer". Against this background, they see the growth of Russia's authority.
      They could still build up the falling authority if they once again "defeated" some country (knowing that it is not capable of defending itself), but they are simply afraid to enter into a direct military confrontation with the Russian Federation, because. are not sure of its positive outcome for themselves and the possibility of the final loss of their influence in case of defeat. Hence the whipping up of hysteria against Russia and the desire to drag it into periphery wars in order to weaken it, but to their disappointment, we are not yet drawn into their scenario. Meanwhile, their authority continues to decline.
  7. +13
    15 February 2016 07: 29
    All negotiations between the West and Russia are in the vein: Surrender ...
    1. +5
      15 February 2016 12: 22
      It's just like in Texas Hold'em - bluffing on bluffs - the worse my cards are, the more I bet (like "pot odds" "almost" 100%).
    2. 0
      15 February 2016 12: 22
      It's just like in Texas Hold'em - bluffing on bluffs - the worse my cards are, the more I bet (like "pot odds" "almost" 100%).
  8. +6
    15 February 2016 07: 29
    Moreover, Washington reversed

    Washington, of course, has not reversed, and so far is not going to give it. They simply do not want to get involved in an adventure with a ground operation themselves, hoping as usual to do everything with the wrong hands. Understanding that Russia is serious, they want to look from the side at our actions in the event of a Turkish invasion of Syria. As if all this was not the beginning of a new, very bad period in the BV with a possible transfer to other regions.
  9. +4
    15 February 2016 07: 35
    They probably already have blanks, they say We are destroying ISIS, and Russia is pressing us at the borders.
  10. +1
    15 February 2016 07: 40
    I don’t go into strategists, I didn’t come out with my face, but I think that the war game is gaining momentum. I see flaming fascington. Hey exceptional nation, do you think your houses are not burning? Look, make no mistake.
    1. +2
      15 February 2016 08: 06
      Hat-taker. Something a lot of you divorced on the sofas. And he probably did not serve in the army.
      1. +1
        15 February 2016 09: 20
        Hat-taker. Something a lot of you divorced on the sofas. And he probably did not serve in the army.
        Firstly, you and I did not graze cows, this time .... and secondly, announce your "heroic list"
  11. -28
    15 February 2016 08: 05
    Russia's use of tactical nuclear weapons on foreign territory is a bluff. And with conventional weapons, Russia will not even defeat Turkey on their territory. It will be cleaner than Afghanistan. 70 million of the population of Turkey is half of Russia. Therefore, minus the author.
    1. +12
      15 February 2016 21: 43
      Out of 77 million Turkish citizens, 25-30 million are Kurds. And why is there a war on the Russian Federation if there is actually a civil, interethnic flare-up. war? Dash into Syria, then get a war on two fronts. Moreover, the Kurds (sir. And tur.) Will be helped with arms by Russia, Iran, Syria (where about 15-20 million Kurds live). He wrote for more than two years that the Kurds can play a major role. But which side will they take? And it seems that the Kurds of Syria have agreed with Assad, since the Turks are shelling them. Therefore, the full-scale entry of Turkish troops into Syria will turn the whole alignment for the Kurds. And the war will go to the Turks on two fronts. Yes, and the meaning of the article you seem to have not caught.
      They (the USA, he is the master) in this situation have two strategies:
      1. The truce. Purpose: to stop the advance of the CAA and allies. And thereby submit themselves to peacekeepers, and that without the United States, nothing is solved. Save your fighters for the future.
      2. Adhere to the victory of Assad with the allies. This is also an option, but Assad himself and the alliance with Moscow (which is called the main geopolitical enemy) do not really like them. Therefore, at the conclusion. stages (if paragraph 1 does not work) will find the opportunity to negotiate with Moscow and be on horseback.
      In the US, elections are on the way; Democrats need victory. Tram's strategy for good relations with the Russian Federation is working. And I’m sure that Democrats will now take over this strategy.
      Therefore, it is necessary to denigrate the actions of the Kremlin, connecting all the mongrels. That is, they themselves understand that they need to do something and negotiate with Russia. But it is necessary to water the slop without stopping - this is what Hollande is doing (he said that it is necessary to stop the actions of the air forces), Merkel (she said that the bombardment will lead to a greater flow of refugees), Cameron, Erdogan, etc. countries did not believe in the good thoughts of Russia, and they themselves are white and fluffy.
      Truce is unlikely to be achieved. While the diplomats agree, the SAA and the Allies will already do a lot. hi
  12. +2
    15 February 2016 08: 13
    I see the closure of the straits and the hanging out of tankers in the roads, as well as the occupation of an oil niche by Iran in this case
  13. 0
    15 February 2016 08: 14
    I did not say: "He who sows the wind will reap the storm." behind the big puddle it seems they don't know this thought, or they don't think at all.
  14. +3
    15 February 2016 08: 17
    Quote: kuz363
    Russia's use of tactical nuclear weapons on foreign territory is a bluff. And with conventional weapons, Russia will not even defeat Turkey on their territory. It will be cleaner than Afghanistan. 70 million of the population of Turkey is half of Russia. Therefore, minus the author.

    Why do we have to go to Turkey? If a new Russian-Turkish war begins, then the theater of war will probably be Syria, Iraq, and possibly Armenia. And if the Turks climb into our territory, the use of nuclear weapons is not excluded.
  15. +3
    15 February 2016 08: 18
    The deterioration of relations between the United States and Turkey because of the Kurds - this is a kind of "reverse" of Washington. He is, but tomorrow it may be different, everything can be in the war. There are conventional bombs today that approach the power of nuclear bombs, only without radiation. By the way, the USA used 2 atomic ones in Japan, so Russia has a head start ...
  16. 0
    15 February 2016 08: 28
    they will not be able to remain with their states in the Middle East. without a big and long war there will not do. so Russia will have to fight there. but to do this wisely and not repeat the mistakes of Afghanistan is the task of the command.
  17. -5
    15 February 2016 08: 37
    This proposal, I think, will look like this, the Turks have already violated the Syrian border, Ukraine will begin the active phase, but the Balts are sleeping and see how they are punishing Russia. The question is how long will Russia stand? It cannot be ruled out that there will be a fourth participant. If we worry about how the face will look like the faces of a gigimon, we will not achieve anything and they will tell us where we should be.
  18. -19
    15 February 2016 08: 58
    Russia is invited to the war

    Ridiculous expression. The author is either another victim of the exam, or he invents an alternative Russian language. You can “invite” a girl to a dance, not a country to war!
  19. +1
    15 February 2016 09: 24
    The generals are always preparing for the last war ... Most likely, there will be no invasions, and there will be missile and bomb strikes and war in the sky ...
    The war in Donbass and Syria is not very indicative here, since these are civil wars. For connoisseurs of the Russian language, I suggest discussing the title of the classic's novel - "Living Corpse".
  20. -5
    15 February 2016 09: 50
    Mention of Ivashov reduces the meaning of the whole article to zero
  21. 0
    15 February 2016 10: 07
    How many want to call us to war? Ukraine called, called, now the Turks are connected. An armed conflict with them is more beneficial to them. A theater of operations near the border and allies are missing. Guys are running up. We have options for the Turks, since they do not want to sit quietly.
  22. 0
    15 February 2016 10: 17
    Not everything is so simple, but Russia's readiness to dictate its rules and voice its vision of problems has shocked both the mattresses and their hangers-on. Like that dog on the street; and you want to bite and it’s scary that you can get a stick on the hump ... it only remains to bark at a safe distance. laughing
  23. +2
    15 February 2016 10: 27
    Good, balanced article. The situation is really alarming. Russia will not flinch and stop at nothing in defense of its interests. The question is, will the west risk? They understand that Russia is becoming stronger and stronger ... Therefore, they face a dilemma: now or never.
  24. +1
    15 February 2016 10: 39
    War is so war.
  25. +4
    15 February 2016 11: 40
    We don’t even have to fight in Turkey, the Russian Federation piles on them in Syria, the Turkish Air Force is now afraid to fly into Syria, if the Basurman and begin a ground operation, then I’m sure without the Air Force, but they will take a chance :)) Well, there they look forward to, to whom, and the Basurmans of the ass belt will definitely get laughing
  26. +8
    15 February 2016 12: 29
    what reverse gear ???? The Americans jumped in beauty. They made a mess, organized a war — and into the bushes themselves! Favorite tactics! They are not stupid - to discredit themselves in the international arena and to put under attack. But the Turks, Ukrainians, Balts, Poles and even Germans with the French - you can at least throw all of them at the bear, but the meat !!!

    You will see, time will pass and we will be in the same military alliance with them (unless of course we defeat American puppets)

    Initially, the United States planned to cultivate a world caliphate and send it to Russia.
    It’s like with Hitler - to help both so that they kill each other as much as possible. But something caliphate turned out to be a weak child.


    do not build illusions - the worst is yet to come.
  27. +1
    15 February 2016 12: 31
    I remember more Medvedev’s dictum that everyone will be bad. This is already alarming.
  28. +1
    15 February 2016 12: 34
    It is clear that in the event of the appearance of the Turnz and / or Saudi contingents on the territory of Syria, the answer will be to strengthen support for the Turkish Kurds from the Russian Federation and Iran - right up to the recognition of the right of the "Kurdish people" to a "nation state". Direct analogies arise with 1947 - when, at the suggestion of Stalin and Truman, Israel appeared on the world map (in spite of Britain and its puppets - the Arab monarchies). And the contours of the big war in the BSV theater are Iran-Syria-Lebanon against Turkey-Saudis-possibly other Gulf countries. And under the guise of "neutral" Israel will solve its problems in southern Lebanon, in the Golan Heights and on both banks of the Jordan River.
  29. +1
    15 February 2016 12: 58
    We have a tremendous advantage - the Russian people, and the Westerners have only an electorate that immediately surrenders even on their own land.
    Who will fight for nature? Gayrop fagots or Americans will die for their "values"? Do not make me laugh.
  30. +6
    15 February 2016 13: 13
    The article is quite informative. Anyone who can even read a little will understand.
    The situation at the moment is worse than at the beginning of the operation in Syria.
    USA - took a timeout to adjust plans, nothing more.
    The situation as a whole is extremely serious and just as unpredictable.
    ALL conflicts and wars in which Russia was drawn into were initially considered: 1) either unlikely 2) or quickly resolved. Alas, further history showed a slightly different state of things ...
    So - it’s definitely not going to be calm and easy in the coming years.
    And how it will be - even the Almighty is now, probably, in a slight confusion, not to mention the Supreme ... ((
  31. +1
    15 February 2016 13: 32
    And that you are all attached to Syria. It is necessary to think globally. The enemy is strong, and Syria is only a small bridgehead to divert the attention of the enemy. In Syria, we can partially lose, the global goal has become closer anyway. I’m more interested in where it’ll rush further: Ukraine or Central Asia?
    1. NDA
      +2
      15 February 2016 13: 49
      I think the next one will be "Karabakh"
    2. NDA
      0
      15 February 2016 13: 49
      I think the next one will be "Karabakh"
  32. +3
    15 February 2016 14: 10
    Quote: 73bor
    What do you think the Turkish generals are eager to get involved in the war, Erdogan frightened them, and even when the Russian base in Armenia is not at all comfortable in your rear besides the Kurds!


    And who will ask them? Well, there are Kurds, so what? They’ve been there for many years, they’re coping poorly with them. If not for the idea of ​​amers with Kurdistan, they would not have interfered at all. And yes, they worry, but that's all. Well, what does the base in Armenia have to do with it? From there that hordes of fighting bears flee to Turkey? There Crimea is not very further.
    The Sultan has no problem starting a small war game. Especially if the Americans push a little.
  33. +1
    15 February 2016 14: 11
    Quote: kuz363
    Of course, the Turks will send their volunteers, like Russia to the Donbass. Here, as they say, one-one. Like Russia, it will not admit this either. And if they still have Buk-type air defense, then Russian planes will be afraid to fly in to bomb them.

    What the hell !!!! Either you and ... from, or you just don’t understand what to write! In principle, also idiocy !!! negative
  34. +2
    15 February 2016 14: 20
    Quote: Vyatka
    And so the Sultan pinches the bear, and he gets lucky and completely expels him back.
    He certainly won’t drive back, but about pinching, this is what my grandmother said in two. More likely that: Sultan will suddenly work in Syriaall of a sudden, power will change there, and there may well happen a way out of NATO.


    It can easily be kicked out if it really wants and the Americans will not mind. The Syrian army is not a competitor to the Turks. And ours is unlikely to dare to transfer a limited contingent to Syria. VKS can do little alone. The Turks are not, they are their own air defense and fighter jets, too. It’s not possible to bomb the bearded now. Well, to extinguish goals in Turkey is also unlikely to be solved, this is a different level of conflict. This may well lead to the intervention of amers.
    Well, about the exit from NATO-do not tell. Why would it be necessary then? Whoever comes to power in Turkey will remain in NATO. This is beneficial to her. This is an umbrella from the neighbors.
    1. 0
      16 February 2016 14: 52
      Well, there are many options ...
  35. +4
    15 February 2016 14: 45
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Yes, frankly, they have nothing good.
    As US presidential candidate Trump said, "America has spent 15 trillion dollars on the war, starting with Iraq to this day! And what is the result? Where did America achieve the result? Nowhere !.
    Here is perhaps the best assessment of their achievements!
    All this mess was started by military corporations, which became beneficiaries of the war having received the above-mentioned amount of 15 trillion.
    Corporations won, and America lost, both in geopolitics and in maintaining the image of the world "overseer". Against this background, they see the growth of Russia's authority.
    They could still build up the falling authority if they once again "defeated" some country (knowing that it is not capable of defending itself), but they are simply afraid to enter into a direct military confrontation with the Russian Federation, because. are not sure of its positive outcome for themselves and the possibility of the final loss of their influence in case of defeat. Hence the whipping up of hysteria against Russia and the desire to drag it into periphery wars in order to weaken it, but to their disappointment, we are not yet drawn into their scenario. Meanwhile, their authority continues to decline.


    Well, as if the situation with the sanctions from the EU and other movements in the last couple of years suggests that America has completely achieved results. They are afraid and respected. Follow them. There is no one who wants to argue directly. Rather, the opposite. Even the Russian Federation does this with extreme caution and fear. Otherwise, the situation with Ukraine would have long been resolved. Well, referring to Trump, this is an excuse. He is a populist in the election race. All his words are directed exclusively for domestic consumption by amers. If he comes to power, everything will be exactly the same as it was, maybe even worse. For he has not a few radical manners.

    But there is no need for fables about the growth of the Russian Federation's authority. There is still a maximum - "oh, they are still alive." So far, our authority is at the level of a European country and no more. Yes, it has to be considered, but not the key.
    You judge by hysteria in the bourgeois media. But this is nothing more than a scarecrow for the defense budget and the consolidation of NATO (otherwise it has become extremely soft over the last decade).

    About military confrontation, hmmm, but why fight with the Russian Federation? What are the bonuses from this? It’s easier to strangle economically. The result is not worse, but the risks are zero. Well, yes, along the way, you can continue to organize concern at the borders. This is quite enough. Understand we are not a competitor to amers, just a hindrance, an inconvenience. The union was a competitor. Deadly competitor. But he had an economy, industry, army, ideology, science, a military bloc. But the Russian Federation does not have all this. We are the tenth, or even less, of the Union in power in every sense. Amer rival China. And only he. He is still weak, but about 10-15 years old and he will be able to speak with amers on equal terms.
    1. -2
      15 February 2016 14: 51
      Quote: cobra77
      That's just about the growth of the authority of the Russian Federation does not need fables.

      Duroscope wins ... but the Internet users of the site do not have)
  36. +1
    15 February 2016 14: 51
    Quote: Skalpel
    ALL conflicts and wars in which Russia was drawn into were initially considered: 1) either unlikely 2) or quickly resolved. Alas, further history showed a slightly different state of things ...


    What? Yes, most of the wars in which Russia participated (at least in the last 200 years) were initially very likely and long. And much before, it was all clear.
  37. +2
    15 February 2016 14: 57
    It is necessary to raise the issue of payment of compensations and an official apology to the citizens of Armenia from the Turkish government for the Armenian Genocide. And then, only once a year we talk about it. But we must constantly remind the Turks and speak from all the stands.
  38. +4
    15 February 2016 17: 38
    Comrades, are you sure that they will give the order to strike to defeat? In terms of the quality of technology, we are out of competition in the region, the quantity is small, but with the help of strategists and at the expense of quality, they may well cause the Turks frankly unacceptable damage. But will there be an order for this? Do you really believe that our elites (although what the hell they are "ours") are ready to risk everything that is stolen and stored in Western banks for the sake of Russia? So I can imagine how Gref and Ulyukaev dig a trench together, Miller cleans a machine gun in moments of calm and shoots a cigarette at Sechin, Abromovich at headquarters shares intelligence obtained through the ubiquitous tribesmen, and Nabiullina, a nurse on the front line, bandages the wounded Medvedev, who was leading his platoon into hand-to-hand combat ... Yes, I am exaggerating, of course, but I’m not sure that at the last moment our liberal rulers will not turn back. And there is no need to talk about the almighty Putin. If he is satisfied with people pursuing an openly anti-Russian and anti-Russian policy, then either he does not see this (which I doubt) or he keeps them there on purpose. Conclusions, as they say, do it yourself ...
    1. +1
      16 February 2016 10: 00
      "Abramovich's report to the headquarters" is a test! laughing
    2. 0
      16 February 2016 10: 00
      "Abramovich's report to the headquarters" is a test! laughing
  39. +1
    15 February 2016 18: 59
    It is time to urgently provide full support to the Kurds before they are intercepted by the states
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  41. +1
    15 February 2016 19: 44
    We have to feel Obama for the royal pendants. On their territory, these jackals will be scolded immediately. For it is one thing to bomb from afar and quite another to substitute one's skin. Russia will not discuss its actions with anyone, if you want to fight - please, at least until Washington ...
  42. +3
    15 February 2016 22: 23
    Yes ... if about the war - the topic is in the top! The heart is warm and proud, albeit anxious!
    Well, look at the situation:
    1. Islamists control most of Syria, Iraq, part of northern Africa. There is another rabble - bandits.
    2. Saudis, Qatar (not poor and influential in the West) countries sponsor a mess in the Middle East, ie against the Russian Federation.
    3. Not a small country Turkey with a not weak army is now an enemy of the Russian Federation.
    4. In Central Asia, the cells of Islamists. And this is potentially a janitor in your yard. And also local showdowns like "and you blocked the river, our crops are drying up."
    5. The United States spread rot Russia in all media and economically. Introduce sanctions. Laughter laughter, but with our fin.power sanctions have some consequences. To me personally, from sanctions VERY COMING is GOOD, but not order, in any way.
    6. The EU versus Russia in a relationship. Sanctions. PRO.
    7. Pibaltika - woof-woof ... pug on an elephant, but NATO is nearby. Where is 6000 there and 600000 ... what if?
    8. Ukraine. Damn, brothers! I am sincerely sorry for you. The 90s have come to your house again, but THEY FOOLS! As we were. If anything, rush to the east for the "last attack"?
    9. Old Man? Who are you with?

    You can still remember, but this is laziness. Evening. I'm tired.
    Fighting against everyone now, but it turns out that way, is not an option. Well, would there be communism, back and forth, but with developed democracy and a bunch of idiot traitors in the bureaucracy? One thing pleases - KOSTYAK IN AUTHORITY IS AND HE IS BEAUTIFUL, WITH A SOBER REASON. YOU CAN AND NEED TO BELIEVE IN IT.
    GLORY TO RUSSIA! :))))
  43. +2
    15 February 2016 22: 27
    In war, all means are good. So let's go without war.
  44. +1
    15 February 2016 22: 35
    Quote: Vyatka
    He certainly won’t drive back, but about pinching, this is what my grandmother said in two. It is more likely that: the Sultan will suddenly work in Syria, all of a sudden the power will change there, and there may well happen and a way out of NATO.

    I agree that if Perdogan the Rabid decides on a direct invasion, then he will lose everything and at the same time he will still rake in earnest in the form of combat losses. This will not be forgiven him before in Turkey itself - the opposition has been crushed, but not destroyed! The result may be the removal of Turkey from NATO as a poorly managed member. No NATO will stand up for it - he himself attacked, he himself and the ogreb! And in the US, the Pentogenerals, of course, will happily rub their hands, but the result will still not be in their favor. Syria to be, although there are problems above the roof, in the sense of internal. soldier
  45. aba
    +2
    16 February 2016 01: 07
    War is such a thing: invite, don’t invite, but you’ll fight anyway .......
    1. 0
      16 February 2016 14: 50
      Well, remember Kutuzov? Could not catch him until he came to war
  46. -3
    16 February 2016 07: 22
    Where is our propaganda? "Tower caliber", so to speak. It would be nice to make it clear to the main likely "partner" that the serious will not be in the West, but immediately in the East, where it is COLD. And overland in a foreign territory. Although, our Arctic body movements seem to hint - but "it is necessary to be clearer, clearer." Let them spend money on heaters for appliances, insulated winter uniforms, etc. Where is Comrade Mikhalkov with "masterpieces" on the humanitarian actions of the Emergencies Ministry in Washington and London after the devastating tsunami. It is necessary to troll in full, for example, fantasy about aircraft carriers, icebreakers, tanks with an anti-gravity platform and other wunderwales. We have so many science fiction patriots;) Look, we won't get to the Big "hot" confrontation. The weakness of propaganda allows the enemy to conclude that he is feared and provokes aggression.
  47. 0
    16 February 2016 14: 49
    She leads some kind of game of her own, and only strengthens the VKS group in Syria, and alert the troops of the Southwestern Military District.
    I was pleased about some kind of my game, if our analysts can’t say anything intelligible, imagine how the rest were afraid wassat
  48. 0
    16 February 2016 15: 04
    Dmitry Medvedev made one meaningful statement:

    Here he is, IMHO, in vain. He has already DONE these statements. Meanwhile, he made a significant contribution to the Arab spring when he surrendered Libya and Gaddafi. Chewed substance in the war 888. By the way, the "civilized world" was going to judge someone for it. He does not name yet, but it is clear that we are. Looks like a bird by ... droppings ...
  49. +2
    16 February 2016 17: 55
    War, war. It has been going on for a long time. It’s just that many people don’t suspect it. The question is when will it become obvious and hot.
  50. 0
    16 February 2016 18: 46
    Well then, we are slowly and surely returning to the Iron Curtain!
  51. 0
    16 February 2016 20: 54
    Quote: xtur
    The Russian Federation is friends with China; Ukraine, Poland and Turkey, even together, are not rivals for the Russian Federation

    We are friends with China out of desperation, this friendship is very specific and we need to look at it sensibly. As long as it is beneficial for China, we are friends; as soon as aggression becomes more profitable for China, some of our territories can quickly be occupied, there is no need to delude yourself on this score. Ukraine, Poland and Turkey, you are right, they are not rivals, but... combat operations will require considerable material, human, production and resource costs from Russia. Europe does not need a war with the Russian Federation? and here I agree with you, but only in part, war is not needed for the old patriarchal Europe that we remember, the Europe as it was yesterday. But today Europe is changing and what shape it will take tomorrow I personally cannot imagine, the so-called refugees from the war , young strong Arab men, it seems to me, would not mind acquiring EU citizenship by participating in a conflict somewhere on the borders of Europe. But exactly the same refugees from the war may appear, and more precisely, they are already here, it’s just that the command to organize unrest has not yet been given. And if all of the above is imposed on the government (which we have), organizing unrest will not be difficult at all. Therefore, how I think the government needs to be changed (we haven’t reached the crossing yet) and the president should have all the power.
  52. 0
    17 February 2016 06: 25
    Well... let's turn on the thinking to the fullest! ... The GAME begins in a big way!
  53. 0
    17 February 2016 07: 18
    Quote: kuz363
    Of course, the Turks will send their volunteers, like Russia to the Donbass. Here, as they say, one-one. Like Russia, it will not admit this either. And if they still have Buk-type air defense, then Russian planes will be afraid to fly in to bomb them.

    Well, how much will “BUK-type air defense” do against cruise missiles? And when these air defenses are gone, Russian aircraft will have nothing to fear.
  54. 0
    17 February 2016 23: 05
    Like in The Lord of the Rings, Rohan will appear...

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