Pyongyang's next step: a special unit has been created to deploy an intercontinental rocket

In the DPRK, a new unit has been created to deploy the KN-08 ballistic missile, "whose dummies were first demonstrated at a military parade in the spring of 2012," reports RIA News message agency "Renhap."

"The new unit became part of the so-called strategic forces that control all the missile units of the DPRK," the agency writes, referring to a South Korean military source.

"The creation of a special military unit may indicate that North Korean specialists are one step closer to the deployment of an intercontinental ballistic missile on a mobile unit," the source said.

According to the Ronhap, the KN-08 rocket has a range of about 10 thousand km. "American experts have repeatedly noted that if the North Korean rocket is properly created, this will greatly complicate the ability of the US to provide warning and protection against attack due to KN-08 mobility," the newspaper writes.

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[avvg]

North Korea does not miss, the Americans!

[Misha Honest]

And also South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and us ... The first two + the USA, as enemies, are not bored, and the Chinese and I are always trying to cover Korea with S. Korea, as we can, which is also very fun ...

[Baikonur]

Eun is preparing a big dyn!

[askort154]

Baikonur] Eun is preparing a big dyn!

What, what, but he trolls professionally. Studying in Switzerland was not in vain. I will not be surprised that in N-th time, it turns out that Kim Un is a CIA development. This "drYN" is, first of all, dangerous in his region, but not the United States.
The United States scares everyone with "drYNom" in order to crush the entire APR.

[Blondy]

Quote: askort154

I won’t be surprised that after N-th time, it turns out that Kim Un is the development of the CIA.

It is possible, and that the agent of influence is for sure. He’s climbing straight out of the way for the Americans to create a new missile defense unit in the Far East.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Misha Honest

And also South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese and us ...

Yes, the junior Kim is a great entertainer and one of the leading experts in evoking "concern among the entire international community." But it seems that there are no threats to the Russian Federation and the PRC from North Korea. Only indirectly, in the form of deployment, in response to the DPRK's nuclear program, of the American missile defense system in the Pacific region. So the States deployed it without such a reason. For example, I don’t know .. to protect the Japanese population of spider crabs, at least.

[PEDRO]

Quote: avvg

North Korea does not miss, the Americans!

Wrong word! ... Poor backward countries, speak?

[0255]

Quote: PEDRO

Quote: avvg

North Korea does not miss, the Americans!

Wrong word! ... Poor backward countries, speak?

Yes, poor and backward, for some reason Juche fans do not want to live in

[kotvov]

DPRK does not let Americans get bored!
but the Americans do not let the whole planet get bored.

[NIKNN]

Quote: kotvov

DPRK does not let Americans get bored!
but the Americans do not let the whole planet get bored.

You won’t say more

[Finches]

It seems to me that when Obama is informed about all this, he only thinks - God! Faster would fall and I would become a free man, when it is unnecessary to always make the smart face of Captain America! I’ll go to McDonald’s, pederast clubs, hang out with lesbians, whip coca ... and in my free time, I’ll Michele’s memoirs, as I lowered the United States for eight years in the eyes of the whole world - taking revenge for my great-grandfather, which in smelly holds was taken out of Africa to hunch on plantations ...!

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: avvg

North Korea does not miss, the Americans!

and to us?
or are you completely reassured by the fact that we are not yet included in the goal lists? Are you sure that SK is predictable and manageable?

[whiteeagle]

This should accelerate the construction of a missile defense shield in a civilized world.

[cap]

PRC

Quote: avvg

North Korea does not miss, the Americans!

We have been dreaming for a long time. We have achieved our goal. We really consider the USA their enemy. Let them continue to think so.

[Krieg_XIII]

We are waiting for the next "hysteria and condemnation" from the "World" community)

[yuriy55]

And I like the rampant nature of this North Korean boyfriend the leader. So simply, without outside help, they took and built. In about twenty years we’ll scratch our heads and wonder where the developed economy country came from from a backward, separately isolated country ...

[Tra-ta-ta]

I like this..
And it seems to me that if you rent a couple / three managers from I-na, then everything will work out right away at the Vostochny cosmodrome ...!

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Tra-ta-ta

a couple / three managers, then everything at the Vostochny cosmodrome will work out right away ...!

huh? Are you aware that the level of corruption in the DPRK is on a par with Afghanistan and Somalia? No?

[spech]

huh? Are you aware that the level of corruption in the DPRK is on a par with Afghanistan and Somalia? No?

Can I link?

[My doctor]

Quote: Tra-ta-ta

I like this..
And it seems to me that if you rent a couple / three managers from I-na, then everything will work out right away at the Vostochny cosmodrome ...!

And the main thing is to stamp more medals, they are very much, these North Koreans, they are loved, don’t feed them bread, but give a medal, and it’s better to fasten the order.))

[padded jacket]

Did you pull out this photoshop bullshit again?
In fact, the photo looks like this and they are veterans including the fighting.

[Allech28-2]

Quote: quilted jacket

In fact, the photo looks like this

Will there be a photo?

[Allech28-2]

Quote: quilted jacket

In fact, the photo looks like this

Will there be a photo?

[padded jacket]

Quote: Alleh28-2

Will there be a photo?

And what are they not?

And so it’s just that the girls of the DPRK are honing the marching step.

[Allech28-2]

Quote: quilted jacket

And what are they not?

Now another thing ..

[Tra-ta-ta]

Cool ..!
I also love the form ..!

[rotmistr60]

Quote: avvg

The US State Department will shout about freedom of speech, democracy in the DPRK.

No, they began to move away from this cliche in relation to the DPRK, realizing that this would no longer interest anyone. Now the chip - the DPRK is a direct threat to the interests of the United States and, of course, South Korea and Japan.

[padded jacket]

Well done Eun and all the people of the DPRK.
And now, in the light of today's events around Syria, our country needs to think about whether we need to help the United States to Japan in the South Caucasus in the light of the fact that would "hinder" North Korea?
We have already done this on the basis of the EU Israel Israel and, for example, imposed sanctions on Iran because of its missile and nuclear programs, banned the supply of S-300 systems there, but the result?
Our turnover with Iran dropped to one billion dollars a year and we lost a lot of money by voluntarily refusing to supply there weapons and industrial equipment. But now, when the economic sanctions have been lifted, the same firms from Europe "poured" into this market, "taking" our orders.
Nevertheless, we, together with Iran, are fighting terrorism in Syria and he is our closest ally in the region.
So you should not hurry with the DPRK and assent to the USA to impose sanctions on it, because we must clearly understand that the entire nuclear and missile program of this country is only an answer to the aggressive behavior of the USA. And even if the United States wants some action from us in relation to Pyongyang, let it take steps from the beginning to resolve the situation around Syria and Donbass, and not otherwise.

[Mountain shooter]

What the people are just not capable of, under the strict guidance and not reduced by the press of propaganda. In both senses. A person can survive and do a lot, despite. Experience shows that the mobilization regime of the economy can be maintained for many decades. And build space rockets, nuclear weapons and so on. Without raising the standard of living of the population. By the way, the population is all lean, trained, and obviously not obese (unlike the leader).

[yuriy55]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

By the way, the population is all lean, trained, and obviously not obese (unlike the leader).

it’s because there should be a lot of a kind person ... But in America, the opposite is true ...

[0255]

Quote: yuriy55

Quote: Mountain Shooter

By the way, the population is all lean, trained, and obviously not obese (unlike the leader).

it’s because there should be a lot of a kind person ... But in America, the opposite is true ...

Yeah, here's a well-fed Kim Jong-un and a well-fed confectionery worker.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: 0255

Yeah, here's a well-fed Kim Jong-un and a well-fed confectionery worker.

And he has such a happy face. You can immediately see the people in paradise living.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: 0255

Yeah, here's a well-fed Kim Jong-un and a well-fed confectionery worker.

And he has such a happy face. You can immediately see the people in paradise living.

And the unfortunate person on the left looks at him and probably thinks, how many of my caramel barrels need to be moored, so how to get fat?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

Well, how many of my caramel barrels need to be mooed, so how to get fat?

Sanya, and you take a closer look at him, he’s happy (I'm talking about Kim), he’s just happy. His mouth doesn’t close with happiness

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, and you take a closer look at him, he’s happy (I'm talking about Kim), he’s just happy. His mouth doesn’t close with happiness

Would you not be happy in his place?
You are the grandson of KIM - life was a priori successful.
Everything is at your feet, while the people sincerely believe that it is he (the people) who is the master of his country.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

- life was a priori successful.

This photo can be described.

[0255]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: atalef

- life was a priori successful.

This photo can be described.

Aha

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, and you take a closer look at him, he’s happy (I'm talking about Kim), he’s just happy. His mouth doesn’t close with happiness

Would you not be happy in his place?
You are the grandson of KIM - life was a priori successful.
Everything is at your feet, while the people sincerely believe that it is he (the people) who is the master of his country.

[Tra-ta-ta]

Where is the caramel ..?
These rockets are made "like sausages" ... We do not forget Nikita ..!

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: 0255

Yeah, here's a well-fed Kim Jong-un and a well-fed confectionery worker.

So this is how the Korean enrichment centrifuge looks .... But is uranium-235 really yellow?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

(unlike the head)

Kutuzov, recall Napoleon or Bismarck ... they didn’t suffer from thinness either ... Do you need more examples?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Misha Honest

Kutuzov, remember Napoleon or Bismarck ... they didn’t suffer from thinness either

Yeah, this is how you need to milk to what Kim would be compared with Kutuzov

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Misha Honest

Kutuzov, remember Napoleon or Bismarck ... they didn’t suffer from thinness either

Yeah, this is how you need to milk to what Kim would be compared with Kutuzov

He must beat his eye and spilled Kutuzov.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

He must beat his eye

And then exiled to the island like Napoleon

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: atalef

It is necessary to knock out his eye and the spilled Kutuzov.

not. Nelson. Remember his photo on the sub?

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

no. Nelson

Well, at least they do not compare Moshe Dayan with the one-eyed.
"Satisfied" Moishe really, he is skinny, can there be any parasites in the body like worms?

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: quilted jacket

Well, at least they don’t compare with one-eyed Moshe Dayan.

do not confuse the eyes. The first two were right, while Moshe had a left.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

do not confuse the eyes. The first two were right, while Moshe had a left.

Kim Jong-un has both eyes, and then what?
And what difference does it make which eye Moishe doesn't have left or right? All the same, it looks like Napoleon only strongly "dead"

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

Kim Jong-un has both eyes, and then what?

Quote: quilted jacket

And what difference does it make which eye Moishe doesn't have left or right? All the same, he looks like Napoleon only strongly "dead

Drive the shawarma, feed Dayana

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

feed Dayana

It’s you yourself who feed it with matzo or shakshuka what
By the way, does this Moisha seem to be already in the grave?

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

By the way, does this Moisha seem to be already in the grave?

In the shroud, well, you're collecting the same dead cats for the shawarma.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: quilted jacket

"Satisfied" Moishe

Padded jacket is your selfie?

[padded jacket]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Padded jacket is your selfie?

You don’t know cool Israeli warriors, but you’re constantly talking with Jews
This is a great and terrible Jewish commander - MOYSHA DAYAN

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Alexander Romanov

Quote: atalef

atalef

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Zeppelin ml.

I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me everything about Yarema.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya Atalef, you haven’t seen this before in your life. This is Misha in a cafe from Kim, and in his profile AAAAAAAAAAA Soon, the finger will erase those who are against Kim

And you don’t know that Stalin was not enthusiastic about Kim Il Sung. Learn the story better! In my opinion, it is you - a comrade or "lord" already starred enough to offend others and their opinions.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Misha Honest

And you don’t know that Stalin was not enthusiastic about Kim Il Sung.

I respect Stalin. I respect Kim. Stalin did not respect Kim, I love the monarchy. For the Tsar. For the Tsar, For Stalin. For Kim. I want to cry

[Misha Honest]

And I want to cry for being appointed a moderator ... What you get up from the level of the current Outskirts is no different ... Okay - I do not care - I'm proud that I wrote ... But, the fact that you can turn everyone like that ... are you not ashamed of even a little ?!

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

and in his profile AAAAAAAAAAA Soon the finger will be erased by those who are against Kim

Well, everything is as it should be.
Knocking quietly. The drummer is young.

[atalef]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Quote: atalef

It is necessary to knock out his eye and the spilled Kutuzov.

not. Nelson. Remember his photo on the sub?

or this

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: atalef

or this

"As the beloved Leader said, speaking before the trade union of the Sinuiju balalaika players:" A cat has four legs. She has a long tail behind her! "
Korea magazine, 14.02.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX.

[0255]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

What the people are just not capable of, under the strict guidance and not reduced by the press of propaganda. In both senses. A person can survive and do a lot, despite. Experience shows that the mobilization regime of the economy can be maintained for many decades. And build space rockets, nuclear weapons and so on. Without raising the standard of living of the population. By the way, the population is all lean, trained, and obviously not obese (unlike the leader).

I look almost everyone in VO admire the poverty of the North Koreans Go to North Korea for permanent residence, I wonder how quickly you will howl from North Korean life

[0255]

Quote: 0255

Quote: Mountain Shooter

What the people are just not capable of, under the strict guidance and not reduced by the press of propaganda. In both senses. A person can survive and do a lot, despite. Experience shows that the mobilization regime of the economy can be maintained for many decades. And build space rockets, nuclear weapons and so on. Without raising the standard of living of the population. By the way, the population is all lean, trained, and obviously not obese (unlike the leader).

I look almost everyone in VO admire the poverty of the North Koreans Go to North Korea for permanent residence, I wonder how quickly you will howl from North Korean life

As I understand it, fans of Kim Jong-un are minus? Why minus the proposal to move to North Korea? We don’t want to live in our beloved DPRK ourselves?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: 0255

We don’t want to live in our beloved DPRK ourselves?

NEVER!

[guzik007]

Why minus the proposal to move to North Korea?
-------------------------------------------------- ------
All volunteers, having arrived in this paradise, immediately fall into the clutches of the secret police, like potential spies. That's where the realists are sitting - no one will believe that a volunteer: =)

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: 0255

Go to North Korea for permanent residence,

Brother, are you crazy? From the satiety of Russia it is more convenient and pleasant to admire

[winRAR]

The Americans are far away, and we are close, the fact that many small states are doing this under our belly is our headache.

[yuriy55]

This speaks only about one thing - one should meet more often ... Moreover, the USSR had the most pleasant relations with the DPRK ... however, as with Cuba ... and with Libya ... and with ...

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: yuriy55

This speaks only about one thing - one should meet more often ...

that's right, you need to talk. We are still neighbors. But EBN, I remember, in the 94th, even Kim Il Sung did not send condolences on the death. Although the States, which we then actively licked, sent such condolences.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: yuriy55

Moreover, the USSR had the most pleasant relations with the DPRK.

Yes, for the money that the USSR gave to the DPRK ..... Love is corrupt, given that in North Korean textbooks, you will not find anything that would indicate Soviet assistance in a war with the south. Kim himself defeated everyone.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

. But EBN, I remember, in 94 did not even send condolences on the death of Kim Il Sung.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, for the money that the USSR gave to the DPRK

they should have sent condolences ....

[rpek32]

The DPRK understands that by releasing the MBR against anyone, it will be knocked down almost immediately. and then they tear up the DPRK itself.
and a simple question: do we have a missile defense system at all to track / intercept a missile? so there is no problem here. more precisely, there is only one problem: why can some countries develop nuclear weapons and a space program ("the civilized world") while others cannot?

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: rpek32

Why can some countries develop nuclear weapons and a space program ("civilized world") while others cannot?

hurt yourself. Why then are we kicking the xoxlov here when they gag about "the status of a nuclear power for Ukraine", eh? Triple standards?

[Hello]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

hurt yourself. Why then are we kicking the xoxlov here when they gag about "the status of a nuclear power for Ukraine", eh? Triple standards?

Give Kim to Ukraine

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Hello

Give Kim to Ukraine

for whom will we change?

[Hello]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

for whom will we change?

And I know, it’s possible on Saakashvili. And we will carry the tombs of the former helmsmen.
Kim in the governors of Odessa

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Hello

Kim in the governors of Odessa

sorry for the dogs ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Hello

Give Kim to Ukraine

Better to Europe, he will become so there Pretty what

[rpek32]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

hurt yourself. Why then are we kicking the xoxlov here when they gag about "the status of a nuclear power for Ukraine", eh? Triple standards?

I do not know who this "you") Ukrainians let them walk on their heads. this is their business (their business is as long as the shells do not fly into our border). the question nevertheless remains valid: is there anything in the Russian Federation about something capable of protecting against ICBMs? and if there is, then why panic?

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: rpek32

the question nonetheless remains valid:

the question in the commentary was of a different kind - one, like, allow to play around with enrichment centrifuges (specifically - Eunwoo, because he is apparently sympathetic to the author of the comment), and forbid others (for example, xoxlam, because the Nazis, dumb, Russophobes, "under amers lay down "and so on.). In other words, we stupidly choose a servant who answers the question "your attitude to America" ​​in the spirit of "I hate, I can't eat .."
here the bombils of the nation's nettitulno blurt out the "Obama - 4mo" badge on their junk. Is that enough for you to love them personally?

[rpek32]

here the bombils of the nation's nettitulno blurt out the "Obama - 4mo" badge on their junk. Is that enough for you to love them personally?

I do not care about them to be honest. let them do what they want, if only they observe traffic rules

[winRAR]

People do not seem to understand what DPRK is, it is not a form of Soviet socialism / Stalinism, well, or was it under the union

This is a direct development of Japanese Imperialism, where the Emperor is a god, really a god, this is in fact a fascist country, in Juche even bans are recorded between. racial marriage

[AlexTires]

Models will deploy? The United States and Japan will pretend to be afraid of them ... Cheap and cheerful. The main thing is that everyone is happy.

[yuriy55]

Quote: AlexTires

... Japan will pretend to be afraid of them ...

I have nothing against the real Japanese (although these constant disputes about the northern territories )
And in the past it was far from white and fluffy Pokemon:

[0255]

Quote: yuriy55

Quote: AlexTires

... Japan will pretend to be afraid of them ...

I have nothing against the real Japanese (although these constant disputes about the northern territories )
And in the past it was far from white and fluffy Pokemon:

And what about the "great sun-like marshal" Kim Jong-un, who threatened to launch a nuclear missile at South Korea and Japan, so white and fluffy?

[clidon]

Well, they said that the US does not make sense to build a missile defense against North Korea, since they do not have and will not have a strategic carrier (before that they also wrote about nuclear weapons).
We, too, would have some kind of national missile defense to quickly mold.

[Gormenghast]

For a while, from a year and a half, ago, they wrote that vicious Russia allegedly sold Kim an EMI warhead, which Kim was planning to install on this very rocket.

And, like, even apply it, causing paralysis and collapse of the power system, communication system and control system in the USA.

Served with sauce - this is not a nuclear explosion, that is - Kim does not need to be crazy to do this.

[Zeppelin ml.]

For some time, from a year and a half ago, they wrote that the evil Russia allegedly sold Kim an EMI warhead, which Kim was going to install on this very rocket.
[/ Quote]
Well, the South Korean press also gives yellowness, which is what. They found mines at Eun, although he did not have mine-based missiles.
Do you remember how the xoxls caught two North Korean spies in 2012? They wanted to steal the docks for the first stage of the ICBM in the Southern Design Bureau. But the SBU is vigilant, so I had to put scadovskie engines in bunches on Tepphodon.

[Afinogen]

This is not Russia to the Americans, What nobody knows in Kim’s mind, even he Americans squirmed and it pleases. As the enemy says, my friend.

[0255]

Quote: Athenogen

This is not Russia to the Americans, What nobody knows in Kim’s mind, even he Americans squirmed and it pleases. As the enemy says, my friend.

If the United States would like to destroy the DPRK, they would do it by gathering a coalition of allied countries, do you seriously think that the North Korean army poses a threat to someone? If Kim Jong-un uses foolishly his nuclear weapons, then this will not help him personally, then they will definitely bomb him in the Stone Age.

[Afinogen]

Quote: 0255

Do you seriously think that the North Korean army poses a threat to anyone?

And I wrote somewhere somewhere ??? What did you draw such conclusions from?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Athenogen

Americans squirmed and it pleases

Did the Americans creep in? Yeah, if it's chubby, it might scare someone, it's its own population.

[Afinogen]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yeah, if it's chubby, it might scare someone, it's its own population.

I don’t think that the Americans were afraid, most likely they were worried (as you don’t listen to them, they’re always worried ) Again, they will have to think about what to do with Kim if he moves from mock-ups to existing missiles. Because Kim with such missiles is like a monkey with a grenade

[padded jacket]

Another missile on the same chassis from the DPRK arsenal but "shorter".

The first version of the rocket whose photo in the article is supposedly KN-08.

To put it bluntly, the "poor" DPRK is making tremendous progress.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: quilted jacket

To put it bluntly, the "poor" DPRK is making tremendous progress.

Do you have a photo of a fake $ 100 bill and methamphetamine? Also achievements.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Do you have a photo of a fake $ 100 bill and methamphetamine?

That is, you put the creation of ballistic missiles and counterfeit banknotes on the same level as they say?
These are completely different things.
And I have a lot of different photos

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: quilted jacket

That is, you put the creation of ballistic missiles and counterfeit banknotes on the same level as they say?

not rockets, but their layouts. A fake dollar is harder to produce

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

not rockets, but their layouts

What layouts did I personally check?

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

A fake dollar is harder to produce

I just got you a tremendous knowledge of technology

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: quilted jacket

What layouts did I personally check?

Did you check them for authenticity?

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

did you check them for authenticity?

I did not check, but Japan, South Korea, consistently declares that these very models periodically fly over their territory or nearby Probably lying?

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: quilted jacket

with constancy

Quote: quilted jacket

periodically

and with what periods?

[padded jacket]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

and with what periods?

With different with different they even launch rockets into space, but of course you are not aware of this.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: quilted jacket

I just got you a tremendous knowledge of technology

Of course no. And your phrase

Quote: quilted jacket

they even launch rockets into space

pulls, of course, at least a genius technocrat.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Athenogen

Americans squirmed

okay, "fidget" What is this expressed in?
Ronhap, as I understand it, is South Korean news cuisine.

[Afinogen]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

come on, "fidgeted" How is this expressed?

This is reflected in the news on the behavior of Americans

[Vadim237]

Let them prepare and attack, they and South Korea will be well taken from the DPRK.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Vadim237

they and South Korea will be well taken from the DPRK.

unconditionally. That is so! there is, it turns out, a grateful audience at the propaganda spots of the Pyongyang film with the burning down White House and other dung. VO strongly passed ...

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Athenogen

What no one knows in Kim’s mind, even he

Well, what is there to admire?

[Afinogen]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Well, what is there to admire?

to admire - to admire; Delight (delight), delight (delight), melt (insane, choke) with delight (delight)



And where did you get the idea that I admire? What is it clear from?

There is a slight irony and hope that if the missiles fly, then towards the country of America. This is because our country in the past freed Korea from the Japanese and put Kim in power. I think Korean missiles do not threaten us.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Athenogen

There is a slight irony

ah, sorry)

Quote: Athenogen

and put Kimov in power.

The captain of the Red Army Kim Il Sung was brought from Vladik on the Pugachev, it was)

Quote: Athenogen

the hope is that if the missiles and fly then towards the country of America.

well, maybe only "to the side" ...

[igorek4515]

Love is corrupt, given that in North Korean textbooks, you will not find anything that would indicate Soviet assistance in a war with the south. Kim himself defeated everyone.

It’s interesting. You yourself read it in North Korean textbooks, or did someone say that to you ..? As always, no one really knows anything about this country, but everyone makes peremptory conclusions ..

Yeah, if it's chubby, it might scare someone, it's its own population.

Why, then, the Americans raised such a screech everywhere and in the UN and everywhere about the launch of a rocket with a satellite, if this country is to them, i.e. America does not pose a threat .. That would be all "admirers" of America and Japan with South Korea to move there to live as they advise here to those who speak out in favor of the DPRK. I would have seen later how they would be requested back in a year or even earlier .. There is no such freedom and "democracy" as in Russia .. especially in South Korea ..

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: igorek4515

All the "admirers" of America and Japan with South Korea would like to move there to live as they advise here those who speak out in favor of the DPRK.

guys, enough of each other for permanent residence to send to different Korea This technique is not smart at all, IMHO.

[padded jacket]

Quote: igorek4515

All the "admirers" of America and Japan with South Korea would like to move there to live

It is absolutely correct for all of them to go to Israel and to the United States, let them "act" from there to the DPRK

[0255]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: igorek4515

All the "admirers" of America and Japan with South Korea would like to move there to live

It is absolutely correct for all of them to go to Israel and to the United States, let them "act" from there to the DPRK

Do you like hungry DPRK so much where Kim Jong-un forbidden everything, where did the people flee to South Korea? Would you like to live like in North Korea?

[padded jacket]

Quote: 0255

Would you like to live like in North Korea?

Interestingly, you yourself recently broadcast that in Belarus it’s bad, but you’re sitting there and not in a well-fed Europe, but you send others to go somewhere, maybe from the beginning you’ll try to go where to go from Lukashenko?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: quilted jacket

Interestingly, you yourself recently broadcast that bad in Belarus

Compared to the DPRK in Belarus, paradise.

[0255]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: quilted jacket

Interestingly, you yourself recently broadcast that bad in Belarus

Compared to the DPRK in Belarus, paradise.

Belarus will soon catch up and overtake North Korea in poverty

[padded jacket]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Compared to the DPRK in Belarus, paradise.

The question is, have you been to the DPRK?
For example, I drove through Belarus more than once the truth has long been. Was in Minsk Pinsk Molodichnoye Gorodishche not very rich people there and lived really now I do not know but I think not much has changed.

[igorek4515]

Do you like hungry DPRK so much where Kim Jong-un forbidden everything, where did the people flee to South Korea?

Firstly, I don’t need to Poke .. I’m not talking to anyone about YOU .. Observe elementary politeness .. Secondly, about the "hungry" North Korea, are you sure that everyone is starving there ..? I'm not at all sure .. And I talked to people who were there themselves. They just say the opposite ..

Would you like to live like in North Korea?

I will say this, I would like to live as I lived under the Soviet Union ..

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

about the "hungry" North Korea, are you sure that everyone is starving there ..

Well what are you, as you can, looking at Eun say that he is starving

Quote: igorek4515

I'm not at all sure

And you are absolutely right

Quote: igorek4515

And I talked with people who were there themselves. They just say the opposite ..

The converse of what?

Quote: igorek4515

I'm not at all sure

Quote: igorek4515

I will say this, I would like to live as I lived under the Soviet Union

And how old are you ?

[Zeppelin ml.]

[quote] Would you like to live like in North Korea? [/ quote]
I will say this, I would like to live as I lived under the Soviet Union .. [/ quote]

in every forum on the topic of IC, there is always a connection between nostalgia for the Union and enthusiasm for the DPRK. Predictably.

[0255]

Quote: igorek4515

Do you like hungry DPRK so much where Kim Jong-un forbidden everything, where did the people flee to South Korea?

Firstly, I don’t need to Poke .. I’m not talking to anyone about YOU .. Observe elementary politeness .. Secondly, about the "hungry" North Korea, are you sure that everyone is starving there ..? I'm not at all sure .. And I talked to people who were there themselves. They just say the opposite ..

Would you like to live like in North Korea?

I will say this, I would like to live as I lived under the Soviet Union ..

I asked Vatnik, we are with you.

[igorek4515]

And how old are you ?

Already 50 hit :))))

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

And how old are you ?

Already 50 hit :))))

So practically peers.
Go to S. Korea - you will live as under Stalin.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

Go to S. Korea - you will live as under Stalin.

And take all the communists with you.

[igorek4515]

huh? Are you aware that the level of corruption in the DPRK is on a par with Afghanistan and Somalia? No?

Are you sure about this ..? However, I can give free advice on how to check this .. Go to North Korea, at least as a tourist, and try to give a bribe to some local traffic cop or customs officer at the airport .. and you will know for sure what level of corruption there is ..)))) I’m afraid, then You can’t write to us about this for a while :))))

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

Romanov was, ask him.

Is this the one that Alexander Romanov?
If you are talking about him, then I really, really doubt it.

[atalef]

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Quote: atalef

Romanov was, ask him.

Is this the one that Alexander Romanov?
If you are talking about him, then I really, really doubt it.

And who ever asks you?

[Ruslan67]

Quote: atalef

And who ever asks you?

Drunk man gets in a taxi
Driver: Well, where are we going?
Man: What's your business ?? !!
Hi Floodrasts

[atalef]

Quote: Ruslan67

Hi Floderasti

Hello myself

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

And who ever asks you?

What will you tell me what to write and what to answer?

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: atalef

And who ever asks you?

What will you tell me what to write and what to answer?

You’ll climb into any hole without Vaseline.

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

Are you sure about this ..?

I am. Almost all bloggers write about this. been there

Quote: igorek4515

However, I can give free advice on how to check it.

Is it free today? And paid - this is corruption

Quote: igorek4515

Travel to North Korea, at least as a tourist, and try to give a bribe to some local traffic cop or customs officer at the airport

Read
http://carnegie.ru/publications/?fa=59921

Quote: igorek4515

I’m really afraid that then you can’t write to us about it in VO for a long time :))))

Have you been to Korea?
But Romanov was, ask him.

[Chisayna]

And what good is the poet Chaliapin? Have you heard him? No, Rabinovich sang it to me.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: igorek4515

However, I can give free advice on how to check this .. Go to North Korea,

buddy, these tips "to go" have already got it.

Quote: igorek4515

to give a bribe to some local traffic cop or customs officer at the airport.

Don't talk nonsense. What does a "customs officer with a traffic cop at the airport" have to do with it? The comment I responded to was about Korean executives who are supposedly crystal clear. If you have not heard anything about the vertical structure of corruption built over the years of "reforms", then these are your problems. In general - let me look at your rose-colored glasses. Maybe I'll consider something ideal in Korea too.

[clidon]

A tourist there will simply not give you a bribe. Exactly like the Negro in the USSR, the attitude was somewhat different compared to the Soviet citizen.
And so S. Korea is a very, very corrupt country.

[igorek4515]

Well what are you, as you can, looking at Eun say that he is starving

That's interesting .. For some reason everyone is judging whether there is hunger in the country or not one person at a time, even if he is the head of state .. This is the same as saying that in Russia everything is entirely judoka and tough guys looking at Putin’s picture .. You yourself it's not funny..?

The converse of what?

The opposite of what you and other opponents of North Korea write here ..

Go to S. Korea - you will live like under Stalin

Do you like Europe.? Or a western lifestyle ..?
As for me, I'm not averse to going there as a tourist .. about "go there to live" I already answered this question somehow .. I will say this, never advise anyone to go somewhere to live if you do not like someone's comments because you can advise where to go .. Here's something like this ..

[igorek4515]

Almost all bloggers write about this. been there

bloggers may write .. But ordinary tourists who have been there by no means all write about it ..

Is it free today? And paid - this is corruption

Well, duck, I’m giving you FREE advice and check the corruption level ..

Have you been to Korea?

Once again, I myself was not, but I want to go.

But Romanov was, ask him.

How many people have so many opinions .. And the truth as folk wisdom says lies somewhere in the middle .. By the way, I also asked people who were there ..

[igorek4515]

you will live like under Stalin

By the way, my late parents recalled until their death that when in 1953 Stalin died, everyone cried in the streets and wondered how we would continue to live ..

[atalef]

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By the way, my deceased parents recalled until their death that when in 1953 Stalin died, everyone cried in the streets and wondered how we would proceed

Now it’s clear what you like about Kimach

[igorek4515]

Now it’s clear what you like about Kimach

You don’t understand anything .. However, explaining this to a citizen from the "Promised Land" is a hopeless occupation .. And ungrateful ..

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

However, explaining this to a citizen from the "promised land" is a hopeless occupation

I guess you're right, because I have a head not only for what would be in it

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And ungrateful ..

There is no prophet in his own country.

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You don’t understand anything .. However, explaining this to a citizen from the "promised land" is a futile task.

For these "copies" the most important thing is the number of shekels in their pocket. So much of the life of other people for them looks incomprehensible and wild, I sometimes even doubt whether they know what it is - honor, conscience, compassion for others, mutual assistance.

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

The most important thing for these "copies" is the number of shekels in their pocket.

In my pocket, and you see my shekels

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So much of the life of other people for them seems incomprehensible and wild. Sometimes I even doubt whether they know what it is — an honor conscience compassion for one’s mutual assistance.

Padded jacket, now letting go another tear.
Have you ever got up from time to time between gutting cats to a shawarma from a combat couch?
Maybe grandmothers there on Dobass or Syria passed? Sheltered refugees?
Vatnik's honor is a new anecdote on VO.

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

The most important thing for these "copies" is the number of shekels in their pocket.

In my pocket, and you see my shekels

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So much of the life of other people for them seems incomprehensible and wild. Sometimes I even doubt whether they know what it is — an honor conscience compassion for one’s mutual assistance.

Padded jacket, now letting go another tear.
Have you ever got up from time to time between gutting cats to a shawarma from a combat couch?
Maybe grandmothers there on Dobass or Syria passed? Sheltered refugees?
Vatnik's honor is a new anecdote on VO.

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

In my pocket, and you see my shekels

Yes, I’m not talking about shekels at all, but about conscience, but forget about it, you still don’t know what it is — conscience

Quote: atalef

Padded jacket, now letting go another tear.

It’s not you who did the sex reassignment operation for the first time.

Quote: atalef

got up from the combat sofa at least once?

And with this I am reproached by the man who constantly sheds tears and who hid in the basement trembling like a "blue leaf" when Hamas missiles flew over Haifa? Honestly funny

Quote: atalef

Maybe grandmothers there on Dobass or Syria passed? Sheltered refugees?

Donated money to the Donbass. Refugees are not sheltered; there are none in our city.

Quote: atalef

Vatnik's honor is a new anecdote on VO.

You really know what it is - the honor is amazing.

[igorek4515]

I guess you're right, because I have a head not only for what would be in it

It's not the best thing to be ironic .. and refer to the videos from YouTube and say that you understand why someone likes something or not .. This is a very strong argument .. Agree :))))

[atalef]

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Ironizing isn’t the best thing .. and referring to YouTube videos and saying that you understand why someone likes something or not

You better tell me why the death penalty for escaping from S. Korea?
Why are borders overlapped? Why does the population have no passports?
They don’t run from a good life.
Is Elijah wrong?
And if anyone decided to run away. so to hell with him - let him go, what to keep?

[igorek4515]

You better tell me why the death penalty for escaping from S. Korea?

And you better tell me how did you find out that the death penalty for escaping from North Korea ..?
I’m surely aware that in South Korea, according to their national security law, a prison sentence is simply for communicating with the North Koreans without the sanction of state bodies .. a prison is also for listening to, storing and downloading from the Internet ANY audio and video files including music even without words from North Korea ..

Why are borders overlapped? Why does the population have no passports?
And in Israel, why are borders closed ..? As for passports .. I don’t know if there are passports there or not, but even in the USA, the stronghold of democracy around the world, there are no passports either .. and what will you also say that totalitarianism and dictatorship are in the USA:? ..))))) )

They don’t run from a good life.
Is Elijah wrong?

proud of the data on the number of escaped from the DPRK for at least 2015 can ..? From other countries do not run not ..? Or they run only and solely because of a bad life .. And for example, in order to avoid punishment for crimes committed at home they don’t run abroad .. Not ..)) This is just one example ..

And if anyone decided to run away. so to hell with him - let him go, what to keep?

I don’t know if someone is holding them there by force or not I will not argue, but there are publications that say that refugees from the DPRK in South Korea very many end up committing suicide .. Do you think this is from a happy life in a prosperous South Korea ..?

[0255]

And you better tell me how did you find out that the death penalty for escaping from North Korea ..?

There is evidence of North Koreans

Why are borders overlapped?

There is a video on YouTube where the sea borders are fenced off with barbed wire

I don’t know if there are passports there or not, but even in the US stronghold of democracy all over the world there are no passports either .. and what will you also say that totalitarianism and dictatorship are in the USA:? ..)))))

What is it?

I don’t know if someone is holding them there by force or not I will not argue, but there are publications that say that refugees from the DPRK in South Korea very many end up committing suicide .. Do you think this is from a happy life in a prosperous South Korea ..?

We all believe in publications that runaway North Koreans in South Korea are killing, we don’t believe in publications that there is hunger

[atalef]

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And you better tell me how did you find out that the death penalty for escaping from North Korea ..?

Prison or the death penalty.

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I know for sure that in South Korea, according to their national security law, they simply rely on a prison term for communicating with the North Koreans without authorization from state bodies.

Sure ?

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And in Israel, why are borders closed ..?

We have ? How is this? All who want to leave - freely leaves 9 unless of course not under investigation and not in debt)

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I don’t know if there are passports there or not, but even in the US stronghold of democracy all over the world there are no passports either ... and what will you also say that totalitarianism and dictatorship are in the USA:?.

You confuse a little the lack of internal passports in the USA and the free receipt of a foreign passport for leaving the country

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proud of the data on the number of escaped from the DPRK for at least 2015 can ..?

No but run

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From other countries do not flee not

flee from other countries, only there is a difference.
Yes, they flee from Africa with foreign passports i.e. man freely leaves the country. but doesn’t want to come back.
In all the lights of communism such as S. Korea and Cuba - a man without special. Permits this passport cannot receive at all, but not that it is free to leave --- do you catch the difference?

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And for example, in order to avoid punishment for crimes committed at home, they do not flee abroad ..

They’re probably running, but we’re talking about something else. In S. Korea and Cuba is it possible for a simple citizen to grow out of the country on a tour by eelan? a trip or to relatives Or just like that, wandering around China?

Quote: igorek4515

I don’t know whether someone is holding them there by force or not I will not argue, but there are publications saying that refugees from the DPRK in South Korea very many end up committing suicide

What is it for?

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What do you think of this from a happy life in prosperous South Korea ..?

Why don’t they come back?

[clidon]

Prison or the death penalty.

The prison, depending on where he fled and how he returned. If to China (and from there deported), then as a rule a short term of correction camps. If you visited the UK and returned, repented, then they can forgive in general, in exchange for cooperation.

No but run

In total, there are now several tens of thousands of official refugees from the UK in the UK (about 30 thousand and 2-2,5 thousand arrive annually). In China, more than a hundred thousand, they illegally work there. More often temporarily.

Why don’t they come back?

Come back, but dozens. In general, the southerners are not sugar refugees from the UK - integration into society is actually a difficult thing.

[Old26]

One or two posts on the topic - everything else is srach about everything except the topic.

Quote: AlexTires

Models will deploy? The United States and Japan will pretend to be afraid of them ... Cheap and cheerful. The main thing is that everyone is happy.

The dummies were shown at the 2012 parade. They are the ones in the first photo. At the 2015 Parade, real KN-08 or Hwaseong-13 rockets were shown. The appearance is already somewhat different

[igorek4515]

There is evidence of North Koreans

Any evidence before taking on faith needs to be checked and double-checked .. North Koreans, especially those who have fled to the south in order to obtain a residence permit and at least some work, will tell you that Un is eating the blood of infants ..)))) Note will be figuratively expressed swear on the bible that all this is true ..))))

There is a video on YouTube where the sea borders are fenced off with barbed wire

but why didn’t you think about these barriers .. Well, yes, of course, only to prevent the escape of your citizens and nothing else .. But the fact that these are anti-air barriers in the event of a new war did not occur to you ..

We all believe in publications that runaway North Koreans in South Korea are killing, we don’t believe in publications that there is hunger

yes, of course .. Just like in that Soviet comedy film "I remember here, but I don’t remember here .." .. so do you ..
As for the picture with a US passport, this is a passport for traveling abroad .. Within the United States, the main identity document is a driver’s license .. This is for you to note ..

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

Any evidence before being taken on faith needs to be checked and double-checked .. North Koreans, especially those who have fled to the south in order to obtain a residence permit and at least some kind of work, will tell you that Un is eating blood from a baby

Anything, what’s the problem if people want to work abroad? Why not just give a passport? And don't let it out?

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Prim, figuratively speaking, they swear on the bible that all this is true ..))))

If people are allowed to leave and drive freely. why swear on her and come up with fuzzes?

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but why didn’t you think about these barriers .. Well, of course, only to prevent the escape of your citizens and nothing else ..

No, so that the fish would not swim to the shores

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. And the fact that these are anti-landing barriers in case of a new war did not occur to you of course ..

Come up with something else

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As for the picture with a US passport, this is a passport for traveling abroad .. Inside the United States, the main identity document is a driver’s license .. This is for you to note

And now what?
Does this indicate the possibility of any North Korean living anywhere in his country and freely traveling abroad?

[igorek4515]

Prison or the death penalty.

But on YouTube there is a video where former defectors returning back to live and no one puts them in jail or shoots and even give interviews to journalists ..

Sure ?

you google "South Korea's national security law" and you read, you are educated ..

All who want to leave - freely leaves 9 unless of course not under investigation and not in debt)

Well, not all countries are obligated to live according to the so-called Western values ​​.. do not forget that the Koreans are Asians and they have their own mentality and their own national characteristics .. Although I do not justify them for this, it’s their choice .. And blame them for it somehow it is not correct whether someone likes it or not .. let them live as they want ..

You confuse a little the lack of internal passports in the USA and the free receipt of a foreign passport for leaving the country

yes no i am not confusing I just meant the lack of passports inside the country. You "blamed them for this" in your comment if I understood you correctly ..

No but run

Awesome argument ..! Well, they are fleeing from all countries .. including from Russia and the USA ..

Yes, they flee from Africa with foreign passports i.e. man freely leaves the country. but doesn’t want to come back.

some of those who escaped from the DPRK are coming back .. If I find a link today I’ll give you ..

In S. Korea and Cuba is it possible for a simple citizen to grow out of the country on a tour by eelan? a trip or to relatives Or just like that, wandering around China?

As far as I heard, tourists travel mainly to China .. about visiting relatives and "savages" I don't know, I won't argue ..

What is it for?

Moreover, there is far from such a wonderful life as the South Korean propagandists paint for them .. lack of work, livelihood, etc.

Why don’t they come back?

I already wrote some come back .. I will find the link today, I will give ..

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

But on YouTube there is a video where former defectors returning back to live and no one puts them in jail or shoots and even give interviews to journalists ..

Moreover, why not give any North Korean a free passport?

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not all countries are obliged to live by the so-called Western values.

Personal freedom of a person - these are basic values

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do not forget that Koreans are Asians and they have their own mentality and their national characteristics

Strange features - South Koreans travel freely wherever they want, but S. Koreans have features

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THEIR CHOICE

They have no choice.
I have a choice - to get a passport or not, they have no such choice

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I just meant the lack of passports inside the country. you "blamed them for this" in your comment if I understood you correctly

They didn’t understand correctly. I talked about getting a passport, although even inside S. Korea, a Korean can’t move freely

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some of the escaped from the DPRK are returning

Well ?

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As far as I heard, tourists travel mainly to China .. about visiting relatives and "savages" I don't know, I won't argue.

In the USSR, the chosen ones also traveled as tourists, or will you say that there was free travel from the USSR and people fled for the love of art, and not because the state restricted free movement?

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Moreover, there is far from such a wonderful life as the South Korean propagandists paint for them .. lack of work, livelihood, etc.

Where in South Korea? Well, now agree that it is better in S. Korea
In general, you can tell these tales to another, I lived in the USSR and I know what it is about. S. Korea is no different from the USSR of the Stalin period

[igorek4515]

Of course there is no "earthly paradise" there. There is a poor country, but slowly developing. But the terrible and evil Mordor is what Western and, above all, South Korean, American, and even Russian portrayed him, which is definitely not a sin to hide from the media there ...

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

Of course there is no "earthly paradise" there. There is a poor country, but slowly developing. But the terrible and evil Mordor is what Western and, above all, South Korean, American, and even Russian portrayed him as it is, there is definitely no sin to hide the media there

A country restricting the personal freedom of its citizens is the most terrible mordor.
Maybe you can safely leave Zimbabwe, but for some reason you can’t leave S. Korea and Cuba.

[igorek4515]

Anything, what’s the problem if people want to work abroad? Why not just give a passport? And don't let it out?

You probably don’t know that in Russia and in Kazakhstan, as well as in some countries of the Middle East, thousands if not tens of thousands of North Koreans work .. and they leave for themselves legally and at the same time return to their homeland. Perhaps this is news for you. .?

If people are allowed to leave and drive freely. why swear on her and come up with fuzzes?

it’s one thing when they leave legally for work and another thing is refugees who initially leave to stay there .. But their motives can be very different ..

No, so that the fish would not swim to the shores

You do not forget that the DPRK has been living in a state of permanent war for more than 60 years, since even a peace treaty has not been signed either with the United States or with South Korea after the 1950-53 war. And from the United States and the South, calls are regularly heard for a military overthrow of the regime there .. So I would not juggle and ironize these measures so much ..

Come up with something else

I’m not going to come up with anything .. I wrote and your business is already to believe or not .. I’m not going to convince anyone of anything .. This is not my plan ..

And now what?
Does this indicate the possibility of any North Korean living anywhere in his country and freely traveling abroad?

I don’t know how about all North Koreans, but in any case they can move around the country quite unhindered. And many people are working abroad.

[atalef]

Quote: igorek4515

You probably don’t know that in Russia and in Kazakhstan, as well as in some countries of the Middle East, thousands if not tens of thousands of North Koreans work .. and they leave quite legally and at the same time return to their homeland. Probably this is news for you. .?

Yes, as I know the conditions in which they work, how much they earn and work as cooperatives. With military discipline

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it’s one thing when they leave legally for work and another thing is refugees who initially leave to stay there .. But their motives can be very different ..

You know, how much it’s necessary to be stubborn to prove that S. Korea is a free country with free movement of people

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Do not forget that the DPRK has been living in a state of permanent war for more than 60 years

Permanent war = this is when hostilities take place. The last war on the Korean peninsula was 60 years ago, and with South Korea.
At the same time, South Korea is a free state and no one there yells about a constant war and people are not locked up

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The United States has not been signed with South Korea after the 1950-53 war.

Israel has not signed with Syria and the same with Lebanon? And? And unlike S. Korea, during this period at least 4 full-fledged wars have occurred and nothing, no one in the country keeps people locked

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I don’t know how about all North Koreans, but in any case they can move around the country quite unhindered.

Sure?
So this is not so

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And many people are working abroad.

Again a song about a white bull.

[stonks]

I wonder whose product is this eight-axis?
Somebody knows?

[igorek4515]

I wonder whose product is this eight-axis?
Somebody knows?

Local production. Under a Chinese license .. At least on the Internet, I came across such infa ..

A country restricting the personal freedom of its citizens is the most terrible mordor.

You might think that in more civilized countries their citizens are not limited in anything ..
In the same United States, in the same way, they restrict the freedom of their citizens, although to a lesser extent .. However, no one calls the United States a terrible Mordor .. so everything is relative .. In the same South Korea, their citizens are also decently limited, but for some reason they are a terrible Mordor not called, but on the contrary called a "democratic" country ..

[igorek4515]

Moreover, why not give any North Korean a free passport?

Well, I don’t know whether they will give them passports there or not I will not say .. But it’s quite legal to go out and work, and even tourists mostly to China know this ..

Personal freedom of a person - these are basic values

Who would argue .. Only now, many nations have their own mentality and their own national characteristics .. And therefore there are no universal values ​​that are equally acceptable for all nations ..

I have a choice - to get a passport or not, they have no such choice

I tell you once again I DO NOT KNOW whether they have passports or not .. Surely those who travel abroad legally have passports otherwise they would travel .. Generally, they will not be allowed to go without documents. not really hard to understand ..

They didn’t understand correctly. I talked about getting a passport, although even inside S. Korea, a Korean can’t move freely

They can. before there were restrictions, now as far as I heard they have already been removed ..

Well ?

They are mainly used as propagandists talking about the "delights of life in the capitalist South .. Here is the link:
http://inosmi.ru/world/20120810/196405444.html

I am a lot of North Korean citizens. Their homeland is not the most pleasant place to live. You know very little about the outside world, you are starving, and there is always a chance that you and your children and parents will be sent to a forced labor camp.
It is therefore not surprising that some North Koreans are trying to flee the country and seek refuge in South Korea. As of 2011, 23000 refugees from North Korea were living in the South. Surprisingly, some of them are returning to North Korea.
According to Joongang Daily, this year 100 "double defectors" returned back to their homeland across the Chinese border. The authorities of the North even used them at press conferences, so that returnees told fellow citizens of the hermit state what horrors awaited them in the South.

In the USSR, the chosen ones also traveled as tourists, or will you say that there was free travel from the USSR and people fled for the love of art, and not because the state restricted free movement?

I don’t know if everyone there can go abroad or not. But the fact that they release it is a fact and many travel .. Mostly the truth is to work .. only in Russia North Koreans have several tens of thousands .. not counting other countries ..

Where in South Korea? Well, now agree that it is better in S. Korea

I never said this, do not distort me ..

In general, you can tell these tales to another, I lived in the USSR and I know what it is about. S. Korea is no different from the USSR of the Stalin period

Well, yes .. but I don’t think you lived in the USSR .. and I don’t know what it was about .. As for the comparison with the Stalin period, it’s better to start trying to learn something better about this country and preferably not from the media but from more serious sources ..

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Yes, as I know the conditions in which they work, how much they earn and work as cooperatives. With military discipline

The Chinese are also working with us as cooperatives and the same with military discipline .. And what ..?

You know, how much it’s necessary to be stubborn to prove that S. Korea is a free country with free movement of people

You have to be stubborn listening only to what the "freest media" is "pushing" you ...

Permanent war = this is when hostilities take place. The last war on the Korean peninsula was 60 years ago, and with South Korea.

And the fact that local military skirmishes are constantly taking place there does not mean anything ..? And who bombed everything there .. Not the Americans for an hour .. Not ..? learn history .. and on land the Americans fought there under the UN flag ..

At the same time, South Korea is a free state and no one there yells about a constant war and people are not locked up

do not hold but about their "freedom" I wrote to you above .. Do not believe it yourself go check ..

Sure?
So this is not so

I’m not going to convince you of anything .. Do not believe it is not necessary .. Your business ..

Again a song about a white bull.

You come to the far east of Russia and you yourself will see this "song about a white bull" ...)))