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Russia donated the party BTR-70М to Kyrgyzstan

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The party of armored personnel carriers for the armed forces of the country arrived in Kyrgyzstan from Russia, reports Look with reference to the Kyrgyz military department.




“Reception of military equipment from the Russian Federation took place at the international airport of Bishkek Manas,” the release says.

It is noted that "the BTR-70M with full equipment and computer equipment for interactive training of driver-mechanics are obtained by the Kyrgyz side in the framework of military-technical cooperation."



“This is the first batch of eight armored personnel carriers that was delivered from the Russian Federation to our republic. In the near future, we expect the rest of the equipment to arrive, ”the press service reported.



“Military-technical assistance provided by Russia to Kyrgyzstan comes on the basis of previously reached intergovernmental agreements. Today, the Russian side has donated armored vehicles, artillery systems with spare parts and ammunition for various types of small arms to our republic, ”the release notes.



The newspaper reminds that earlier between Moscow and Bishkek an agreement was concluded on gratuitous provision of weapons to the Kyrgyz army for $ 1 billion.
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    1. GRAY
      GRAY 12 February 2016 12: 09 New
      15
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      there are no other problems, how to do charity work (((

      All the same, sooner or later, they would have put them on needles.
      1. cniza
        cniza 12 February 2016 12: 13 New
        16
        We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.
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        2. Deniska
          Deniska 12 February 2016 12: 34 New
          +2
          We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.


          Strengthening an alien army is strengthening your own borders?

          in the 2000s, thousandths of Ukraine did not transfer anything? did not strengthen "our" borders?
          1. cniza
            cniza 12 February 2016 12: 38 New
            +4
            I wrote below about this, I will not repeat it.
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          3. Simon
            Simon 12 February 2016 12: 57 New
            11
            Strengthening an alien army is strengthening your own borders?
            Here I do not agree! I think it is better to strengthen the neighboring friendly army than to build and strengthen the border with it. She is currently a buffer for Russia. Kyrgyzstan is currently technically weak state and its southern border with countries where hostilities are taking place, it will be difficult to protect without technology. And who will help them in this? Americans ?! Who only dream of bases in Kyrgyzstan to surround us with bases on all sides. So, it’s better to help us in this Kirghiz.
            1. xavbek7
              xavbek7 12 February 2016 13: 57 New
              +5
              where did you see your esteemed friends? how did they become friends with us? you ask Russian immigrants (after the collapse of the union) about their friendship ...
              1. Limak
                Limak 12 February 2016 17: 13 New
                +1
                Have you asked? ..
          4. Max_Bauder
            Max_Bauder 12 February 2016 14: 20 New
            +4
            Quote: Deniska
            Strengthening an alien army is strengthening your own borders?

            in the 2000s, thousandths of Ukraine did not transfer anything? did not strengthen "our" borders?


            You do not confuse the Nazis from Ukraine with others, I have not heard that the Kirghiz fought against the USSR, in the likeness of Bandera, in the 316th Panfilov’s division defending Moscow there were many Kyrgyz. And now the southern borders will protect ... as much as they can. ISIS - that’s what they should be afraid of, especially considering that they are recruiting supporters of Wahhabi-Salafists in Russia itself, of whom there are a lot of campaigns in Dagestan, judging by the news.
          5. Talgat
            Talgat 12 February 2016 17: 34 New
            +7
            Quote: Deniska
            Strengthening a Foreign Army


            The Kyrgyz are not at all an "alien army", but the most "their own"

            Kyrgyzstan is not only a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, it is an outpost of the Eurasian Union in Central Asia, the closest ally of ours and Russia

            The stability of Kyrgyzstan is a guarantee of stability in Central Asia - and it is also in the south of Kazakhstan - and therefore in the "underbelly" of Russia. And in general, this is already an integral part of the EAC and it is unacceptable to lose it.

            Kyrgyz people are friendly and simple people, very similar to us. or we are on them
            - no matter - in fact, probably the closest to the Kazakhs. In Kyrgyzstan, absolutely about the Russian mood.

            Comparing them with Ukraine is simply absurd
          6. alexmach
            alexmach 12 February 2016 21: 31 New
            +1
            Decided to make fun? what are you interesting in 2000, Ukraine passed that?
        3. rpek32
          rpek32 12 February 2016 12: 39 New
          -8
          Quote: cniza
          We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.

          What is BTR-70m capable of protecting from? from small arms? what is the strengthening of something?

          this is a "political gift" to "little brothers", nothing more.
          as if history teaches nothing. and where are all our brothers now who swore that "peace is the friendship of gum"?

          it also looks like an attempt to get neighbors into their technology. so that we get used to technology and software and later we’ve bought something
          1. Yak-3P
            Yak-3P 12 February 2016 12: 52 New
            +2
            and what should on "your" armored personnel carrier be protected ?? I was in Bishkek a year ago, Russians are almost there on their hands (if you are with babal) and everything is cheap there
            1. rpek32
              rpek32 12 February 2016 13: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Yak-3P
              And what should an armored personnel carrier (APC) protect according to "your"?

              this is you ask a question to a person who believes that an armored personnel carrier strengthens the borders
              1. cniza
                cniza 12 February 2016 15: 20 New
                +5
                The border is protected by trained and equipped troops, including armored personnel carriers. wink
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      3. xavbek7
        xavbek7 12 February 2016 13: 54 New
        -3
        Well, it was necessary to start up the needles, it would be more useful. Or donate to ferrous metal, and the money to the budget.
      4. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 12 February 2016 14: 48 New
        0
        Quote: GRAY
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        there are no other problems, how to do charity work (((

        All the same, sooner or later, they would have put them on needles.

        And then what didn’t they deliver to New Russia? There, oh, how they are needed.
    2. Gomel
      Gomel 12 February 2016 12: 12 New
      15
      it is very sad that you do not have 30 (1987) yet and you are already incapable of complex logical conclusions.

      This is not charity, but strengthening borders
      1. midivan
        midivan 12 February 2016 12: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Gomel
        it is very sad that you do not have 30 (1987) yet and you are already incapable of complex logical conclusions.

        This is not charity, but strengthening borders

        from whom did they strengthen? from China Kazakhstan? Well, they didn’t cross the border directly with armored personnel carriers, huh, I don’t have 40 and I also probably don’t own such conclusions, can you explain?
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 12 February 2016 19: 18 New
          +6
          midivan, let me explain, because I live in the region. BTR (armored personnel carrier) is designed to transport soldiers. And has bulletproof booking. It must be understood that Kyrgyzstan is a mountainous country (95% mountains). And in order for the bearded to get through the mountains to Kyrgyzstan (they are unlikely to use the roads - there were examples), then THE ARTILLERY WILL NOT BE DRAGED ON THE BACK AND THE DONKEY. Maximum RPGs and few mortars. Therefore, an armored personnel carrier for Kyrgyzstan is very much in demand, and you can even turn on the spirits in the forehead when there are no spirits left to shoot RPGs. And secondly, do you really want our soldiers to defend the borders of Kyrgyzstan, and therefore the EAEU? After all, it is easier to give such an opportunity to the Kirghiz themselves. It will be necessary to train more. They are closest to Tajikistan and Afghanistan, and if anything, they will quickly respond and come to the aid of the Tajiks. Or should we do this? No, we will certainly help; but the Kyrgyz are closer and it is in their fundamental interests to protect their land. Therefore, what rot in the warehouses of the reserve - let them still serve, is it not new, why spare something !? And here, in the Republic of Kazakhstan, even border guards were put on APCs.
          Another point. Until recently, the Chinese armed forces on our borders were not fully mechanized. The Chinese borders with Central Asia and Kazakhstan are the quietest in the region. And the PRC here poke yourself more expensive. On the border of China and Central Asia with Kazakhstan live Uyghurs and Kazakhs (on the other hand, 30 million is a lot for our region). They don’t have enough problems with the Uyghurs, so they will raise Kazakhs and other Turks — will they lose their entire XUAR ?! From here, the Chinese make a mark. conclusion: in the early 90s in the capital of the Xinjiang Autonomous Republic of Urumqi in the center you could see clay mud huts, now skyscrapers, logistics centers and the Silk Road.
          For reference. In XUAR, Uyghurs attack policemen with knives. Question: "And if they get their hands on small arms?" Therefore, the Chinese will be friends with us so that this does not happen - if you lived here, you would understand this. Based on this, the military aggression of the PRC can lead to unpredictable consequences. RF and EU are not profitable. Even the USA is not profitable. What to say about the Hindus and Muslim countries - everyone is against the PRC. Do they need it? But on the other hand, China's economic interests in the region are higher than the roof - all that they lack, except that there is no wood. And the strategic Silk Road, beneficial to them and to us (EAEU). Hence the conclusion: it is profitable for the PRC to be friends, and not to fight with us - all these are horror stories about the aggression of the PRC in the region neglected by the West. Whether Europe wants it or not, we will arrange a space for them from Vladivostok to Lisbon in our interests. While they are resisting, they will not go anywhere. When the infrastructure from southeast Asia to the western borders of the EAEU appears, the Europeans will ask themselves - otherwise they will remain in the margins. hi
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 12 February 2016 21: 09 New
            +3
            About the backyard. For example. Gas export to zap. To replace Europe with a volume of 150 billion with the PRC market (gas imports of 160 billion with great growth, since there is a program to replace CHP). And there is Japan (a program to replace nuclear power plants), Korea, then Taiwan, India, etc. If these European officials continue to "cook" their energy packages, then excuse me. The same with other export goods - the PRC began to buy grain and other food from us. In addition, our industry is more successful in Asia than in the EU. Take the same military-industrial complex, for example.
            Therefore, questions arise. Why fight so hard for the European market, when they themselves "sew off" all these Turkish, southern and northern streams? Where are the advisers and analysts of the Russian government looking? Isn't it time to push your interests at the expense of their needs? You need gas, oil, titanium, wood, etc. - and we have machines and technologies! No, and no trial. Having built the infrastructure to the East, if the EU also "curls its fingers like a fan," it will quickly break them off. The EU capitalists will rush here from production to make cheaper goods and sell them here. The houses will become "golden" and will not be competitive on the foreign market. hi
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 13 February 2016 00: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: Kasym
              In XUAR, Uyghurs attack policemen with knives. Question: "And if they get their hands on small arms?" Therefore, the Chinese will be friends with us so that this does not happen.


              Definitely Kasym, pitting us with China is a dream of the West and the United States. Kazakhs do not trust China anyway. but in the next 30 years or maybe hostility will not be beneficial either to us or to China. China in FIG does not need problems in the north, there are already enough Uigurs, and start China aggression - the same Uigurs will definitely get full support and weapons from the KZ and the Russian Federation.

              Quote: Kasym
              questions arise. Why fight so hard for the European market, when they themselves "sew off" all these Turkish, southern and northern streams?


              So we all know. since in Russia there has always been a reverence for the West. desire to feel like Europe. and the European direction is always a priority. In the 90s, half of Russia was pro-Western and liberal - but we must admit now they are becoming smaller and smaller.
              More people in Russia begin to understand their Eurasian roots.

              And to trade and lay down pipes is strategically safer and more profitable with China - for 20-30 years he is only going to be friends. And with Europe today, yes. and tomorrow sanctions or war in general and everything will fly to hell
            2. Gomel
              Gomel 19 February 2016 11: 42 New
              0
              Thanks Kasym
              I don’t visit VO as often as I would like, so midivan failed to answer. You argued pretty well
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 February 2016 12: 23 New
      +9
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      ((they squeezed our thousands in their nineties from their territory, and we billion

      The Germans destroyed our millions, and we gas them. Heads against the wall?
      1. Urals
        Urals 12 February 2016 12: 33 New
        +2
        I hope not for parades and protection of sheep ... The main thing is that joint exercises should be carried out, etc. They need to be controlled, otherwise they will be sold to the left! (No offense, of course, and yet)))
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 12 February 2016 13: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: Ural
          I hope not for the parades and the protection of the sheep ...

          Tajikistan separates them from Afghanistan and Pakistan, but if you look at the map, there are continuous mountains - guests can pass.
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 12 February 2016 14: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: GRAY
            guests can pass.

            It was already ... At that time, the Uzbeks helped.
  2. PKK
    PKK 12 February 2016 12: 10 New
    +4
    The southern border has now been strengthened. Specialists are there to manage. The mobility of the army and the ability to respond will increase. Cover up the infantry. They will guess immediately scald or wait until they bite.
    1. Bath
      Bath 12 February 2016 13: 38 New
      -2
      further sell and ends in the water))) wink
      1. KG_patriot_last
        KG_patriot_last 12 February 2016 19: 25 New
        -2
        further sell and ends in the water

        Here I am surprised by such posts ... A certain Felix Kulov was selling our weapons in the 90s, who was here supported by all "non-title" ones ...
  3. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 12 February 2016 12: 10 New
    -8
    It would be better if they all shoved into Syria, they need.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 12 February 2016 12: 13 New
      -1
      The newspaper reminds that earlier between Moscow and Bishkek an agreement was concluded on gratuitous provision of weapons to the Kyrgyz army for $ 1 billion.
      To another billion, get in line. I'm good today.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 February 2016 12: 25 New
        +6
        Quote: keel 31
        To another billion, get in line. I'm good today.

        Oh, you, the communist spoke about the distribution of billions. You damn tens of billions around the world to give out gifts, hell knows who.
        Not for you to say that!
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 12 February 2016 12: 34 New
          10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: keel 31
          To another billion, get in line. I'm good today.

          Oh, you, the communist spoke about the distribution of billions. You damn tens of billions around the world to give out gifts, hell knows who.
          Not for you to say that!

          Alexander, something today is not the same with you. I am not a communist and haven’t handed out money to anyone. If you look at the profile picture, then you are a cheburashka. Say hello from me to the crocodile Gena.
      2. turcom
        turcom 12 February 2016 15: 15 New
        -1
        It would be better if they didn’t transmit anything. Transferred for 500 thousand dollars, write off 50 million.
    2. Lex.
      Lex. 12 February 2016 12: 14 New
      12
      Syria needs something more serious
    3. Yugan Oleg
      Yugan Oleg 12 February 2016 12: 27 New
      +4
      In Syria, they will not help anymore - they need more serious equipment. But Kyrgyzstan is quite until the appearance of any conflict.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 12 February 2016 12: 30 New
        +1
        But it’s much more serious, and so the T90 from the combat units there is prem.
        1. SAM 5
          SAM 5 12 February 2016 12: 32 New
          +4
          But it’s much more serious, and so the T90 from the combat units there is prem.

          Well, if prem, then it should be so.
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner 12 February 2016 18: 12 New
          +2
          And a lot of pret? From combat parts?
    4. Deniska
      Deniska 12 February 2016 12: 35 New
      +2
      everyone in Syria would shove


      Like BDSM ...
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 12 February 2016 12: 37 New
        -1
        BDSM Turks show prerequisites with the plane were already.
    5. Simon
      Simon 12 February 2016 13: 04 New
      0
      In Syria, the already modernized T-72 and T-90 are walking, and at the same time successfully! tongue
  4. kapitan92
    kapitan92 12 February 2016 12: 13 New
    11
    BTR 70, an old proven "fighter"! For Kyrgyzstan it will do. There are 60 armored personnel carriers for conservation, and it would be necessary to fuse them, disposal will be more expensive.
    1. midivan
      midivan 12 February 2016 12: 21 New
      +9
      Quote: kapitan92
      BTR 70, an old proven "fighter"! For Kyrgyzstan it will do. There are 60 armored personnel carriers for conservation, and it would be necessary to fuse them, disposal will be more expensive.

      disposal? throw a cry of 20 thousand rubles apiece, they will be taken away by the eye to blink smile
      1. gjv
        gjv 12 February 2016 13: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: midivan
        disposal? throw a cry of 20 thousand rubles apiece

        It's a little cheap like a scream. In 2013, the average disposal price was 60-65 thousand rubles apiece, excluding transportation. Today, this figure will probably be more. Do you want to sell 20? request
        Industry is more profitable to modernize. The cost of upgrading the BTR-70 to the BTR-70M is about 3 million rubles.
        It is noted that "the BTR-70M with full equipment and computer equipment for interactive training of driver-mechanics are obtained by the Kyrgyz side in the framework of military-technical cooperation."

        The delivery of a multimedia training class for the training of crews and specialists of repair units for the operation, maintenance and military repair of the BTR-70M armored personnel carrier is 31 rubles.
        Information technology - even more profitable!
        1. midivan
          midivan 12 February 2016 14: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: gjv
          It's a little cheap

          smile then for example it would be, I would take 65 tyrov, okay, I would take 70; smile the point was to sell for cheap, under personal responsibility, to everyone who wants military service, let him use or hang out in the garden
          1. gjv
            gjv 12 February 2016 17: 03 New
            0
            Quote: midivan
            or ponte in the garden

            Yes, for garden ponters, the RF Ministry of Defense has a lot of things in store. One Topchikha for example, what is it worth!

            And such Topchy ... fellow
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 12 February 2016 18: 19 New
        0
        The other day it flashed, or in the Leningrad region the traffic police patrol chased an APC. The private device is not an employee, the mech-water was under a safe. This is Russia, gentlemen. laughing
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 12 February 2016 12: 26 New
      +6
      Quote: kapitan92
      BTR 70, an old proven "fighter"! For Kyrgyzstan it will do. There are 60 armored personnel carriers for conservation, and it would be necessary to fuse them, disposal will be more expensive.

      This is not the old "seventy". This is the new BTR-70M - "modernized", a cross between the BTR-70 and BTR-80. The main difference from the progenitor is that part of the body and MTO with a pair of carburetor engines are actually cut out of the original car and a diesel engine similar to the BTR-80 is installed.
      Pay attention to the shape of the stern and the location of the silencers in the photo - a clean BTR-80.

      We have these BTR-70Ms, EMNIP, in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      1. tolyasik0577
        tolyasik0577 12 February 2016 12: 41 New
        0
        Indeed, the engine was changed, and so did the fumes. Well, the landing hatches have not been modernized, it’s a mockery of a fighter in body armor.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 12 February 2016 12: 50 New
          -2
          Quote: tolyasik0577
          Indeed, the engine was changed, and so did the fumes. Well, the landing hatches have not been modernized, it’s a mockery of a fighter in body armor.

          We’ll throw out the engine, throw out the body ... and as a result of modernization we will get the BTR-80. smile
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 12 February 2016 13: 23 New
            +4
            To all critics of the transfer of arms: if we do not arm Kyrgyzstan, then China will do it with its military consumer goods, or the US will drag Afghan junk. If we isolate ourselves and isolate ourselves, we will lose influence in this country, and Manas airport will again become American. Other ways "to have friends-allies "in world politics has not been invented, except as a tough stick and a sweet carrot. Well, hitting is an extreme measure and not our method --- everything is clear with this. I have formed an elite that is beneficial for myself and work with it. very often you have to give just like that. What can you do --- the heavy legacy of the USSR (just kidding). The USA also does not sell everything, but they very often "beat off" the invested money, and we often have a mess with this, to put it mildly. But seriously, Then the Kirghiz cannot be denied. At the CSTO exercises, the Kirghiz are no worse than others. If for the general defense, then we will not become poorer. Well, better than any fake projects, where money was thrown in during the golden rain of oil.
            1. midivan
              midivan 12 February 2016 15: 11 New
              +3
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              To all critics

              the fact of the matter is, someone gingerbread but their whip laughing Well, wait and see, no matter how it happened, the EU and Turland give me money, but we are protecting you too laughing
        2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 12 February 2016 13: 51 New
          +2
          Kyrgyz guys are not big.
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 12 February 2016 14: 30 New
            +2
            It happens differently. Yes, and the Russian guys serve there too.
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 12 February 2016 15: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Kyrgyz guys are not big.

            There are different. Google about Kozhomkul.
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 12 February 2016 18: 13 New
      0
      The result of the check is not comforting. Unfortunately.
  5. SAM 5
    SAM 5 12 February 2016 12: 15 New
    0
    earlier, an agreement was signed between Moscow and Bishkek on the gratuitous provision of $ 1 billion worth of arms to the Kyrgyz army.

    Nothing so big.
  6. fest 1973
    fest 1973 12 February 2016 12: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Gomel
    it is very sad that you do not have 30 (1987) yet and you are already incapable of complex logical conclusions.

    This is not charity, but strengthening borders

    Yes, and simple too.
  7. DmitryK
    DmitryK 12 February 2016 12: 18 New
    -2
    In the event of a real attack, the Mujahideen will give up all this good and it will go to the enemies. The Kirghiz have no motivation to fight for their princes.
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 12 February 2016 12: 34 New
      0
      Quote: DmitryK
      . The Kirghiz have no motivation to fight for their princes.

      And for the homeland?
  8. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 12 February 2016 12: 19 New
    +2
    Everything is correct, we must tie it to our armament, if we do not slap our ears (like 404 country), then these deliveries will bring a large amount of return in the future. And at the same time we are strengthening the southern borders with the help of a neighbor. I approve.
    1. valera
      valera 12 February 2016 12: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey-72
      Everything is right, we must tie it to our weapons,

      Oh, it’s as if they are not attached to him.
      Chur goryuchka at their expense bully
  9. Altona
    Altona 12 February 2016 12: 21 New
    +2
    There would be no Russians, who would arm the Kirghiz for free? By the way, what about "American heritage"? Are the large-scale sales of clothing items in the form of brand new uniforms and boots over?
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 12 February 2016 12: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      By the way, what about "American heritage"? Are the large-scale sales of clothing items in the form of brand new uniforms and boots over?

      There is still a bit, but already remnants. In essence, what was really way - boxes and folding beds. Hucksters at the American base were apparently experienced, with experience.
  10. ava09
    ava09 12 February 2016 12: 23 New
    +5
    Quote: cniza
    We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.

    Nobody argues with this, but in order to make such gifts, you need to be 100% sure that they will serve exactly the purposes for which these "gifts" are made. Aren't we doing too much and making gifts, after which they spit in our faces? Examples are endless ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 12 February 2016 12: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: ava09
      Nobody argues with this, but in order to make such gifts, you need to be 100% sure that they will serve exactly the purposes for which these "gifts" are made. ..



      "If you want to make God laugh, tell me about your plans" - of course there is no 100% certainty, but nothing can be done either ... our equipment, our specialists and advisers must be there constantly and work, work ...
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 12 February 2016 12: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: ava09
      Quote: cniza
      We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.

      Nobody argues with this, but in order to make such gifts, you need to be 100% sure that they will serve exactly the purposes for which these "gifts" are made. Aren't we doing too much and making gifts, after which they spit in our faces? Examples are endless ...

      In Kyrgyzstan, you can bring one and it is enough for the eyes.
      In February 2009, the presidents of Kyrgyzstan and Russia agreed to write off Bishkek's debt to Moscow, which amounted to $ 180 million. Kyrgyzstan pledged to transfer 48% of the shares of the Dastan plant to Russia.
      After Russia expressed interest in the Dastan plant, shares of the plant began to be bought back by structures controlled by Maxim Bakiyev’s son. A controlling stake was quickly assembled, and Moscow, which had already announced the cancellation of the debt, was offered to take 37% of the shares into the debt account, and to buy out all the remaining shares at the market price. As a result, intergovernmental agreements were disrupted. The State Duma of the Russian Federation has not ratified the deal to write off the debt of Kyrgyzstan
      1. glasha3032
        glasha3032 12 February 2016 14: 29 New
        0
        Bakiev’s subsequent fate, I hope, remember?
        1. midivan
          midivan 12 February 2016 15: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: glasha3032
          Bakiev’s subsequent fate, I hope, remember?

          Yes, the meaning is not in fate, but in relation to, by analogy with armored personnel carriers, let's say that the fate of the traitor will be of little interest to us when the backside starts to smoke wink
          1. glasha3032
            glasha3032 13 February 2016 15: 19 New
            0
            But his example is science (Bakiev probably cries at night, remembering his village, where he was running barefoot ... Not everything in the world is measured by money, Berezovsky strangled himself in the toilet in the toilet!)
        2. kil 31
          kil 31 12 February 2016 15: 26 New
          0
          Quote: glasha3032
          Bakiev’s subsequent fate, I hope, remember?

          What to remember her. He lives with the Old Man and is satisfied. Naturally, he has different passports and is in a different month, in his real estate where in which country he wanted today. What is its difference from the new? Takes kickbacks in large projects. China and the West are more dear to him than Moscow. How can his expression be understood that we have no money? Throw us with projects and get a freebie for a yard of bucks for it.
          Kyrgyzstan will seek new investors for the Kambar-Ata -1 construction projects and the Verkhnenaryn cascade of hydropower plants. President Almazbek Atambayev informed journalists about this.
          According to him, the agreement with the Russian side will be terminated. “We spoke a lot about this with the President of the Russian Federation. It can be seen that in the current situation, when the Russian economy is not on the rise and oil price trends are going down, the agreements cannot be implemented by the Russian side. It is difficult to blame the government, because then there was one situation, today it is different. Kyrgyzstan should go beyond these agreements and look for other investors. Because we cannot stop the construction of these projects, and we are forced to look for investors. Sometimes you need to make decisions radically. This is sad news for me, ”said the head of the country.
          Maybe something is wrong with us in the Kremlin? Due to the bad situation, we are cutting projects, both in the military-industrial complex and in the social sector, pensioners are begging. But we are openly thrown and exchanged for others and we give them 1 yard. not rubles, but dollars. Idiocy. My opinion is to disperse the entire CSTO. Apart from asking us for money and weapons, no one did anything. Where is the support for Ossetia and Abkhazia, where is the support for Crimea and Syria. Only one "GIVE MONEY, GIVE MONEY, WE ARE YOUR ALLIES.
          1. glasha3032
            glasha3032 13 February 2016 15: 15 New
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            Do we really need support in recognizing the republics that have emerged from the Georgian oppression? But to have an outpost on the distant frontiers from the jihadists and "friendly" China in the form of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan (and if the cards fit well - and Uzbekistan) - this is a necessary thing and the cost of 1 billion dollars of aid is not such a big price (in our country, given the huge allocated target money, the tasks set are not solved and social programs are not implemented - and this is many times more harmful for the country than the allocation of aid (albeit in the future and without return ,Alas...).
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 February 2016 12: 24 New
    -1
    Quote: kapitan92
    it would be necessary to fuse them, recycling will cost more.

    I will support you. Recycling is really not small money. And long-term storage does not rejuvenate the equipment.
  12. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 12 February 2016 12: 26 New
    +2
    No matter how this weapon was then used against us.
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 12 February 2016 17: 37 New
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      This is unlikely - unless Kyrgyzstan is defeated and weapons do not get to bearded men
  13. Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 February 2016 12: 30 New
    -1
    Yes, we have a lot of things in storage, which you can already just give.
    We then need to prepare a place for the reception of new equipment.
    Because as a new technique and ammunition, a special approach is needed for storage and verification.
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  15. AlexTires
    AlexTires 12 February 2016 12: 33 New
    +1
    They correctly do what they pass on the equipment, because Kyrgyzstan is our underbelly in the south of the Taliban / ISIS and other evil spirits ... 70, although it’s a suitable technique, it’s very old, it is valued at us no more than metal scrap ..
  16. triglav
    triglav 12 February 2016 12: 37 New
    -1
    Cars are too old, but don't throw them away. And supply them with modern ones ... They are unreliable partners.
  17. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 12 February 2016 12: 45 New
    +5
    Quote: Deniska
    We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.


    Strengthening an alien army is strengthening your own borders?

    in the 2000s, thousandths of Ukraine did not transfer anything? did not strengthen "our" borders?


    Having lived in Kyrgyzstan for 20 years, I can honestly say that I have never been reproached for being Russian. So far, the Kirghiz have a very good attitude towards both the Russians and Russia in general. But Western agents are working there with might and main, while the Russian Embassy and its agents hesitate and "stupid". Weapons are good, but the South of the republic no longer speaks Russian, they speak English better. And not because the Kyrgyz are so bad, but because there is no one to teach it there, unlike English (it is taught for free by US volunteers). Western values ​​are also imposed there, more or less talented people are taken for "processing" in the states, from there they are already being American in spirit. So, Ukraine is mediocre, so it can be the same with Kyrgyzstan. Alas.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 12 February 2016 13: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Comrade Glebov
      Weapons are good, but the South of the republic no longer speaks Russian, they know English better there. And not because the Kyrgyz are so bad, but because there is no one to teach him there, unlike English (US volunteers teach him for free). Western values ​​are also imposed there,

      Something does not agree with your views. What are the Western values, English ?! American volunteers feed the society of "English-speaking", I sometimes ask them - what's up with your language? Then I switch to German. They also noticeably feed active Nazis and growing up homosexuals.
      During the union, there were dense Uzbeks and Kyrgyz who did not understand Russian, now there are a little more.
      This is everywhere with the union, so that everyone can write in 2 languages ​​(now it is still common). Remember: a hairdresser - chach tarach, union printing - basmassos, an amphibian man - balyk Gutiera.
      I often see these "volunteers", as a rule, they are idlers, whom they did not trust at home more than selling a bicycle. And then they were instructed to fight for MINDS and opposite parts of the body.
      One "volunteer" was spinning here and there in Central Asia, writing a thick book, even from afar. She went to Russia again, she was caught there and sent as a spy.

      Now about a good attitude towards Russians, this is how to say it. This is probably when someone is always on the planning meeting who is outraged that there are Russians in the organization? Or, without consequences, they burn a Russian company. Well, not all the same, we know that, there are normal ones.
  18. theadenter
    theadenter 12 February 2016 12: 47 New
    -1
    Choosing between a landfill and a gift to a security partner is a clear choice. The main thing is to remember with a kind word.
  19. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 12 February 2016 12: 53 New
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    Quote: DmitryK
    In the event of a real attack, the Mujahideen will give up all this good and it will go to the enemies. The Kirghiz have no motivation to fight for their princes.

    Quote: GRAY
    And for the homeland?


    Perhaps they will fight for their families. Although the problem of the complete illegitimacy of the authorities, coupled with the wildest tribalism, the absence of ideology, the work of foreign agents through numerous "holes" and "institutions" and the banal new training of troops and their scarcity is clearly not to our advantage. However, in the early 90s they still fought off the Mujahideen who crossed the Tajik-Kyrgyz border, albeit not at all without losses.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 12 February 2016 13: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Comrade Glebov
      However, in the early 90s they still fought off the Mujahideen who crossed the Tajik-Kyrgyz border, albeit not without loss.

      It was not camillefo that turned out to fight back, despite the voluntary participation of hunters, Cossacks and the Uzbek Air Force. But it turned out to pay off. Asia .. with
  20. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 12 February 2016 13: 01 New
    0
    Quote: midivan
    Quote: Gomel
    it is very sad that you do not have 30 (1987) yet and you are already incapable of complex logical conclusions.

    This is not charity, but strengthening borders

    from whom did they strengthen? from China Kazakhstan? Well, they didn’t cross the border directly with armored personnel carriers, huh, I don’t have 40 and I also probably don’t own such conclusions, can you explain?


    I will explain from whom they strengthen. From neighboring Tajikistan, "bearded" people from Afghanistan climb through the leaky border, and regularly, the Tajik border is also in a "sieve". About the "obstruction" due to the APC. Geography generally does not allow the use of equipment heavier than armored personnel carriers, if you have ever been on the Bishkek-Osh highway, then you will understand (there are nowhere for two minibuses to turn around, the road is a relative concept and often passes through mountain gorges at a decent height, there are cliffs everywhere), In the South ( Batken, Jalal-Abad) - the same thing. There are not enough helicopters, there are only three of them, and the "seventy" can quickly plug the hole with a detachment of border guards and support the KPVT with fire. There would still be a BRDM and turntables, it would be no less useful.
    1. midivan
      midivan 12 February 2016 15: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Comrade Glebov

      I will explain from whom they strengthen.

      thanks for that drinks , no, I was not in those parts, and I have nothing to do with the army (except for duties), maybe I argue like an amateur, but I do not agree with one with "gifts" to one lard, another .... lard, but for this money it seems to me it would be possible to create an army which would not give a damn about what is going on in Kyrgyzstan and the amers should whisper so cleanly in their ears, just stick around, let's just so that the monkey's ass will seem pale to you, we are very kind and all and sundry use it
  21. miru mir
    miru mir 12 February 2016 13: 05 New
    +1
    Looks like it's getting hot in those parts ...
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 12 February 2016 13: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: miru mir
      Looks like it's getting hot in those parts ...

      Greetings Egor. Here in the comments about Physical Instruments (Dastan) they mentioned. As a child, I lived there side by side (behind the radios) and I was tormented by the question, why does the channel dive into the subway directly to the factory? It seems like your father worked for you there.
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 12 February 2016 15: 02 New
        +2
        Salam, Alexander. My father worked there for almost three decades. And the channel for the same as the base at Issyk Kul-products had to be tested. Well, the final tests in Peter dangled.
  22. Huan karlos
    Huan karlos 12 February 2016 13: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: rpek32
    Quote: cniza
    We need to strengthen our southeastern borders.

    What is BTR-70m capable of protecting from? from small arms? what is the strengthening of something?

    this is a "political gift" to "little brothers", nothing more.
    as if history teaches nothing. and where are all our brothers now who swore that "peace is the friendship of gum"?

    it also looks like an attempt to get neighbors into their technology. so that we get used to technology and software and later we’ve bought something


    to frighten the opposition and clear the barricades)
    well, that’s right, to sit on our equipment
  23. grigor-81
    grigor-81 12 February 2016 16: 50 New
    -2
    Charity will not lead to good.
  24. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 12 February 2016 19: 38 New
    +3
    1) The Kyrgyz Republic is almost the only one in the entire former Union, where Russian is the official language. For stupid people who don’t understand: if conditional Barack Obama comes to us, they will speak Russian with him and sign documents too.

    2) Personally, my generation studied on the BTR-80. Thank you for sending the BTR-70M, and not the base or even the BTR-60. For the stupid: the Kyrgyz Republic is not conditional Honduras. We went through the Soviet Army and used the same weapons as all Soviet people. "and so it will NOT do."
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 12 February 2016 21: 57 New
      0
      I fully support you.
  25. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 13 February 2016 06: 19 New
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    Taking into account the peculiarities of Kyrgyzstan, it would be necessary to strengthen the protection of the roof of the armored roof and the bottom from the svu, well, it did not hurt to weld the nets from the RPG, otherwise these armored vehicles burst with a break in the armor like nuts under a hammer.