Why I get scared by our patriotism
Recently, on the "Military Review" was published my article (Do we need to talk with NATO?) The question that was considered in this article is quite simple. The leadership of the alliance expresses readiness to resume the work of the Russia-NATO Council. Contacts at the command level of NATO and the Ministry of Defense of Russia prior to the 2014 events in Ukraine have always helped to resolve issues arising during combat and training work.
The direct communication of the military departments not only helped to quickly solve problems, but also coordinate the actions of the Armed Forces. Military people - a special caste. At the word "politician" they strain. Well, it is unusual for the military to play up. Yes, and equipment and weapons in the hands of these people are not suitable for jokes.
But today I will not write about my opinion on this issue. Today is completely different. About the patriotism of our readers, who is not only frightening, but terrifying. It becomes terrible from rampant hats.
(Quotes are given without editing! - Ed.)
sir.jonn
Quote: pest
The dialogue may be necessary, but you cannot change your line. There is no confidence in this alliance consisting of jackals who are always ready to cling to your back.
There is no dialogue before changing the rhetoric of the members of the alliance towards the Russian Federation. I understand that they are proud and do not admit mistakes, but at least some of the mongrels inside the alliance are obliged to spank.
Misha Honest
Quote: pest
Dialogue may need
What dialogue can be with someone who has already gotten on the rails of war? Remember, let's learn the lessons of the Second World War, how we agreed with Hitler and how it all ended! The only question is, when is it all babahnet and will we have time to prepare?
Meaning to agree - if so and so the knife in the back is provided?
Tambov Wolf
What kind of dialogue? It is necessary to finish off everything in Syria. He is stronger than he and he is right. The new government will do it. And in general, the winner writes history.
Guys, I understand that you didn’t have to hear for yourself how the projectile is rustling or tearing the ears of a close rupture of a mine. I understand that thanks to the media, including myself, you probably have the impression that we now have an Army. Not the one that was under Yeltsin, but a new one. Modern and able to punish any aggressor.
Not even a year has passed since we unanimously applauded the new tanks, BMP, armored personnel carriers, aircraft. The grand parade that made the world see our new army. Really great achievements of our scientists, designers, engineers, workers.
But where is all this miracle technology today? What are our VKS fighting? Alas, the fact that created a long time ago. "Armata" a great tank. But your son will not serve "Armatu", but an old, time-tested and enemy T-72 shells with some additional letters or T-90, again with letters.
And he will run along the training ground not with the “Abakan”, but with the old “Kalash” or SVD. At the same time shoot Soviet, at best, the release of the end of the last century, ammunition.
For example, I advise you to see what our Black Sea Fleet is capable of today. The one that showed itself so beautifully when firing rockets from the Mediterranean. In the event of an emergency, our Black Sea Fleet will cope only with the Turkish fleet. And with big losses. Up to 30% of ships and personnel. With losses of the Turkish fleet up to 50%.
But it is necessary to enter the Black Sea, for example, the Americans, respectively, to enter several strike groups of ships, as our fleet will disappear in a week.
I understand that now someone is actively grinning and recalling the nuclear button. Do not dare! And who told you that they would not dare? Why don't you ask yourself such a question? Dare or not dare?
Moreover, I got the impression that some readers already agreed to fight.
rotmistr60
We are not striving for confrontation with Russia and for a new "cold war," we want to avoid a new "cold war."
When it comes to a possible armed conflict between one of the NATO countries and Russia, talking about the reluctance of the cold war is somehow even indecent. And if you listen to what the General Secretary said earlier, it seems that they are just trying to put down our guard. But this is designed for fools and can not in any way blush the eyes of Russia.
Mikhail Krapivin
And there are no options. Either that, or on the knee-elbow, and a kind black gentleman will even allow you to use Vaseline so that it is not very painful.
Are you really ready to place your children under the bombs and missiles? It is children and moms. The soldier, paradoxically, even on the front line is better protected than the civilian population. The soldier will survive. And the rest?
Two years we have been writing about Donbass. Two years there is a daily death. With all that war there is more often "for the commander." Both sides on duty drive the RDG to the rear of each other, on duty fire from machine guns and machine guns in the direction of the enemy. And these are fighters who have been proven in battle. For such a fighter, this is not a war. This is a completely ordinary life. And the outputs on the position he perceives as a way out. Only before going down to the bottom, and now to the trench. And the rest is all exactly the same. AND weapon there is not modern, and the time of the king of peas. Even T-34 and KV-3 are still, as far as I know, in the ranks.
And now look at the loss. For one dead soldier several civilians. Is it all so difficult to see?
But it would be wrong to talk only about ... those who do not want to think. That our resource is good that clever and thinking people have gathered here. People are well aware of the problems of the military-industrial complex for a long time serving in the troops, who took part in hostilities.
Cap.Morgan
Our troops repeatedly entered the European capitals. We were not only in London and Rome. Although in the Italian seas, a Russian soldier was washing his boots.
In this case, we have always been in alliance with any major European powers.
Europe has never been united. Union with one part against the other is the key to success.
partizan86
Hotline must be, so that one of the parties did not suspect the other in a complete loss of understanding and preparation for war. Of course, it is necessary to prepare for any situations and to stockpile modern weapons, but at the very least for a collision in neutral territory with someone else’s hands. Such countries as the USA, Russia and China should never fight with each other head-on, because the result is obvious to all. Both in our country and in the West this is well understood by all these military and political games, intimidating people with threats of invasion, everything is more for the public, for the sake of raising the political rating, for getting money out of the budget, for creating a basis for establishing more appropriate legislation for leaders. Ultimately for the sake of money and power. All performances for the people, in order to distract from other problems. But here, as if not to beat, and even not only the people can believe. Americans and ours mostly outplay, I do not take Europe into account, they have not grown. But all this is still at the level of small politicians who are not worthy of special attention, although it remains there. Here the Chinese in such a plan behave more wisely and with restraint, do not climb anywhere.
Especially for those in a hurry to scribble: "Author coward and alarmist." Sometimes such patriots are more terrible than enemies. Such people were sent to death by hundreds, thousands of people. Soldiers who could win. But died stupid. By the will of the great patriot commander. And the author is really a coward. And he realized this in the first battle. Therefore, the fight was not one.
No one has ever lived forever. All people die once. And because the time of death is not particularly important. More precisely, it is important not when you die, but how.
Today, at this very minute, as you read these lines, someone is thinking about how to make us kneel. How to undermine our economy. How to destroy human resources. How to destroy the pride of the winners. That pride that is transmitted from us from father to son.
In the 20 century, Europe experienced two world wars. Two times cities, factories, factories, institutes were destroyed. How many Einsteins and Queens fell into the ground. How many children were not born.
Yes, our grandfathers marched through the streets of European cities. Yes, our banner fluttered over the Reichstag. But those who perished in the fire of war, you will not return. And I had to build everything first. From the foundation. But they could just finish building new workshops, continue the already started scientific developments. Children could walk with their grandparents.
And now think: are your comments patriotic? Are you patriots of Russia? So far, in the history of mankind, there is only one country, which was richer out of both wars. And with minimal losses. And the biggest battles on its territory are fights at some ranch between Indians with bows and cowboys with revolvers. The terrible battles that the inhabitants of this country annually celebrate as great battles.
I do not know whether Solovyov said his own phrase in one of his programs, or quoted someone, but I will repeat it with pleasure. "Russia does not like to fight. But it does it better than anyone in the world." Therefore, if you are truly a patriot of Russia, today is the time of the first sentence. Everyone should know that we do not like to fight. And we will do everything to prevent war. But the second part must be constantly shown. Not only we are able, but there is something. And, most importantly, to whom.
And to fight not screaming on the Internet.
PS I specifically left without editing the comments of our readers. How to write and read.
The direct communication of the military departments not only helped to quickly solve problems, but also coordinate the actions of the Armed Forces. Military people - a special caste. At the word "politician" they strain. Well, it is unusual for the military to play up. Yes, and equipment and weapons in the hands of these people are not suitable for jokes.
But today I will not write about my opinion on this issue. Today is completely different. About the patriotism of our readers, who is not only frightening, but terrifying. It becomes terrible from rampant hats.
(Quotes are given without editing! - Ed.)
sir.jonn
Quote: pest
The dialogue may be necessary, but you cannot change your line. There is no confidence in this alliance consisting of jackals who are always ready to cling to your back.
There is no dialogue before changing the rhetoric of the members of the alliance towards the Russian Federation. I understand that they are proud and do not admit mistakes, but at least some of the mongrels inside the alliance are obliged to spank.
Misha Honest
Quote: pest
Dialogue may need
What dialogue can be with someone who has already gotten on the rails of war? Remember, let's learn the lessons of the Second World War, how we agreed with Hitler and how it all ended! The only question is, when is it all babahnet and will we have time to prepare?
Meaning to agree - if so and so the knife in the back is provided?
Tambov Wolf
What kind of dialogue? It is necessary to finish off everything in Syria. He is stronger than he and he is right. The new government will do it. And in general, the winner writes history.
Guys, I understand that you didn’t have to hear for yourself how the projectile is rustling or tearing the ears of a close rupture of a mine. I understand that thanks to the media, including myself, you probably have the impression that we now have an Army. Not the one that was under Yeltsin, but a new one. Modern and able to punish any aggressor.
Not even a year has passed since we unanimously applauded the new tanks, BMP, armored personnel carriers, aircraft. The grand parade that made the world see our new army. Really great achievements of our scientists, designers, engineers, workers.
But where is all this miracle technology today? What are our VKS fighting? Alas, the fact that created a long time ago. "Armata" a great tank. But your son will not serve "Armatu", but an old, time-tested and enemy T-72 shells with some additional letters or T-90, again with letters.
And he will run along the training ground not with the “Abakan”, but with the old “Kalash” or SVD. At the same time shoot Soviet, at best, the release of the end of the last century, ammunition.
For example, I advise you to see what our Black Sea Fleet is capable of today. The one that showed itself so beautifully when firing rockets from the Mediterranean. In the event of an emergency, our Black Sea Fleet will cope only with the Turkish fleet. And with big losses. Up to 30% of ships and personnel. With losses of the Turkish fleet up to 50%.
But it is necessary to enter the Black Sea, for example, the Americans, respectively, to enter several strike groups of ships, as our fleet will disappear in a week.
I understand that now someone is actively grinning and recalling the nuclear button. Do not dare! And who told you that they would not dare? Why don't you ask yourself such a question? Dare or not dare?
Moreover, I got the impression that some readers already agreed to fight.
rotmistr60
We are not striving for confrontation with Russia and for a new "cold war," we want to avoid a new "cold war."
When it comes to a possible armed conflict between one of the NATO countries and Russia, talking about the reluctance of the cold war is somehow even indecent. And if you listen to what the General Secretary said earlier, it seems that they are just trying to put down our guard. But this is designed for fools and can not in any way blush the eyes of Russia.
Mikhail Krapivin
And there are no options. Either that, or on the knee-elbow, and a kind black gentleman will even allow you to use Vaseline so that it is not very painful.
Are you really ready to place your children under the bombs and missiles? It is children and moms. The soldier, paradoxically, even on the front line is better protected than the civilian population. The soldier will survive. And the rest?
Two years we have been writing about Donbass. Two years there is a daily death. With all that war there is more often "for the commander." Both sides on duty drive the RDG to the rear of each other, on duty fire from machine guns and machine guns in the direction of the enemy. And these are fighters who have been proven in battle. For such a fighter, this is not a war. This is a completely ordinary life. And the outputs on the position he perceives as a way out. Only before going down to the bottom, and now to the trench. And the rest is all exactly the same. AND weapon there is not modern, and the time of the king of peas. Even T-34 and KV-3 are still, as far as I know, in the ranks.
And now look at the loss. For one dead soldier several civilians. Is it all so difficult to see?
But it would be wrong to talk only about ... those who do not want to think. That our resource is good that clever and thinking people have gathered here. People are well aware of the problems of the military-industrial complex for a long time serving in the troops, who took part in hostilities.
Cap.Morgan
Our troops repeatedly entered the European capitals. We were not only in London and Rome. Although in the Italian seas, a Russian soldier was washing his boots.
In this case, we have always been in alliance with any major European powers.
Europe has never been united. Union with one part against the other is the key to success.
partizan86
Hotline must be, so that one of the parties did not suspect the other in a complete loss of understanding and preparation for war. Of course, it is necessary to prepare for any situations and to stockpile modern weapons, but at the very least for a collision in neutral territory with someone else’s hands. Such countries as the USA, Russia and China should never fight with each other head-on, because the result is obvious to all. Both in our country and in the West this is well understood by all these military and political games, intimidating people with threats of invasion, everything is more for the public, for the sake of raising the political rating, for getting money out of the budget, for creating a basis for establishing more appropriate legislation for leaders. Ultimately for the sake of money and power. All performances for the people, in order to distract from other problems. But here, as if not to beat, and even not only the people can believe. Americans and ours mostly outplay, I do not take Europe into account, they have not grown. But all this is still at the level of small politicians who are not worthy of special attention, although it remains there. Here the Chinese in such a plan behave more wisely and with restraint, do not climb anywhere.
Especially for those in a hurry to scribble: "Author coward and alarmist." Sometimes such patriots are more terrible than enemies. Such people were sent to death by hundreds, thousands of people. Soldiers who could win. But died stupid. By the will of the great patriot commander. And the author is really a coward. And he realized this in the first battle. Therefore, the fight was not one.
No one has ever lived forever. All people die once. And because the time of death is not particularly important. More precisely, it is important not when you die, but how.
Today, at this very minute, as you read these lines, someone is thinking about how to make us kneel. How to undermine our economy. How to destroy human resources. How to destroy the pride of the winners. That pride that is transmitted from us from father to son.
In the 20 century, Europe experienced two world wars. Two times cities, factories, factories, institutes were destroyed. How many Einsteins and Queens fell into the ground. How many children were not born.
Yes, our grandfathers marched through the streets of European cities. Yes, our banner fluttered over the Reichstag. But those who perished in the fire of war, you will not return. And I had to build everything first. From the foundation. But they could just finish building new workshops, continue the already started scientific developments. Children could walk with their grandparents.
And now think: are your comments patriotic? Are you patriots of Russia? So far, in the history of mankind, there is only one country, which was richer out of both wars. And with minimal losses. And the biggest battles on its territory are fights at some ranch between Indians with bows and cowboys with revolvers. The terrible battles that the inhabitants of this country annually celebrate as great battles.
I do not know whether Solovyov said his own phrase in one of his programs, or quoted someone, but I will repeat it with pleasure. "Russia does not like to fight. But it does it better than anyone in the world." Therefore, if you are truly a patriot of Russia, today is the time of the first sentence. Everyone should know that we do not like to fight. And we will do everything to prevent war. But the second part must be constantly shown. Not only we are able, but there is something. And, most importantly, to whom.
And to fight not screaming on the Internet.
PS I specifically left without editing the comments of our readers. How to write and read.
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