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In the Swedish army began to receive serial SAU Archer

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At the beginning of February, the only artillery unit in Sweden - the 9 artillery regiment - in a solemn ceremony introduced the first serial self-propelled howitzer Archer in the number of 4 units into service, the blog reports bmpd.




The 155-mm / 52 calibration systems on the wheel chassis were manufactured by BAE Systems Bofors under a contract from 2009. In total, according to the contract, 24 of such systems will be manufactured.



The first production models of ACS should have been received by the customer back in 2012. However, due to the protracted work to eliminate the drawbacks of the tool and the production difficulties encountered by a number of the company's subcontractors, delivery times had to be significantly shifted (the first 4 pre-series systems were transferred to the shelf at the end of 2013 g).



"This event marks the actual restoration of the field artillery of the Swedish army, since the delays in the supply of Archer self-propelled artillery systems led to a curious situation: for a long time the Swedish ground forces did not have a single field artillery in service, since at the end of 2011, the last 155-mm / 39 towed howitzer Bofors FH77B ”, - the author notes.



The contract is expected to be fully completed by the end of 2017.





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  1. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 11 February 2016 15: 41
    +9
    Awesome thing! Look at youtube how it hrenachit. And most importantly, mobile, as I don’t know what! Arrived, threw buns and after five minutes she was already gone. We definitely need these, and more!
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 February 2016 15: 47
      18
      The caliber is a little smaller, but the rate of fire ....;) yes, the system is not new ..


      clickable.
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 February 2016 15: 59
        +1
        Please note that the tower shown here rotates. And the Swedes to come on a long chassis, stand up to the front with the cab - a pleasure is not very pleasant
        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 11 February 2016 16: 26
          +6
          Quote: jjj
          Please note that the tower shown here rotates. And the Swedes to come on a long chassis, stand up to the front with the cab - a pleasure is not very pleasant


          And if you look at the last photo in the article? How is it fundamentally different (in terms of turning the tower)?
          1. jjj
            jjj 11 February 2016 18: 33
            0
            There are degrees 120 horizontally, and here 360. Here the carrier machine rises as it is convenient for calculation, and there it is necessary to prepare the position more carefully. And then the Swedes will be more difficult to pull off
        2. opus
          opus 11 February 2016 19: 54
          +2
          Quote: jjj
          . And the Swedes to come on a long chassis, stand up to the front with the cab - a pleasure is not very pleasant

          koneshna

          Quote: jjj
          There are 120 degrees horizontally, and here 360. T

          Do you need 360? AND NO 360 gr at A-22

          and FH77 BW L52 “Archer” has not 120gr, but GN angles, deg. 75 ° ±
          GN angles, town. -120 .. + 120


          Quote: jjj
          The caliber is slightly smaller, but the rate of fire

          10 (but 130 mm) in / min

          versus 8 (but 155mm) in / minute.
          But "handy" 3-4 pieces

          and cross? What about logistics?
          30 t against 44 t

          A-222 still needs a lot of "handy"

          Archer - FH77BW L52
      2. k_ply
        k_ply 11 February 2016 18: 55
        +4
        These systems (“Coast”) are not in service with the ground forces and never will be, coastal and field artillery are slightly different things.
        Compare the nek.harki of this 13 (!) - meter artillery system of coastal defense (Navy) of the Navy with the military self-propelled guns Msta-S:
        130-mm (55klb.) A-222 Shore gun, 1988: 43,7t. (Armor partially), 525 hp, 8 people, ammunition - 40 rounds, 23 km, unitary loading;
        152-mm (47klb.) 2S19 Msta-S howitzer, 1989: 42t. (Armored), 780 hp, 5 people, BC - 50 rounds, 29 km, separate loading.
        A greater mass resource of the 130-mm artillery system is accounted for by automatic loading (as in ship AK-130 ACs) and an energy supply system.
        And most importantly, a military howitzer (howitzer-gun) fires on a flat and mounted trajectory, in the latter case, separate loading allows shelling targets at different distances located behind natural and artificial shelters, behind buildings, behind a forest, in ravines, ditches, from reverse slopes mountains and hills, etc., and a 130-mm cannon shoots at the flat path with unitary shells, mainly at surface and coastal targets, i.e. successfully hit targets on the water surface and in the open flat terrain, although it can also fire from closed positions, but the range of targets fired on the ground is limited.
      3. The comment was deleted.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 11 February 2016 15: 48
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Look at youtube how it hrenachit.

      Yes, impressive.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 11 February 2016 18: 02
        +3
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Look at youtube how it fucks

        1. ksv1973
          ksv1973 11 February 2016 20: 03
          -1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Look at youtube how it fucks


          What can I say ... "SUV" - he and in Sweden "SUV". But how will they get to the firing position and quickly leave it in a forest or swampy ground? ..
          Personally, I don't consider an SPG on a wheeled chassis as an SPG. Although for European areas, abounding with good dirt roads, this product can "ride". But export prospects for such machines, in my opinion, are very modest. However, I do not consider my words to be the ultimate truth. hi
          1. opus
            opus 11 February 2016 22: 04
            -2
            Quote: ksv1973
            What can I say ... "SUV" - he and in Sweden "SUV"

            ? SUV?
            There is no crook than articulated chassis.

            Volvo A30D, all-terrain articulated hauler






            1. Chertkov Oleg
              Chertkov Oleg 12 February 2016 06: 49
              +1
              There is no crook than articulated chassis.
              You "whipped" yourself with a video with an excavator spinning around a stuck wheeled "rogue", I will note on TRACKS on unprepared ground, freely and naturally.
              1. opus
                opus 12 February 2016 12: 13
                +1
                Quote: Oleg Chertkov
                You whipped yourself with a video with an excavator,

                masochism, unlike you do not get carried away.
                1. Who compared the caterpillar and wheeled mover for cross-country ability?
                I personally do not (this is stupid for at least pressure on the ground)
                2.Excavator which
                Quote: Oleg Chertkov
                spinning
                also LOADED IN SOIL
                13,6-17,6 cubic meters?
                (Load capacity SAE struck, m3 13,6 / Load capacity SAE 2: 1 heap, m3 17,5)
                Does the excavator have 28 tons of cargo? (Payload, t28 Net weight, t 23,1 Gross weight, t 51,1)
                ?
                -------------------------------
                That's when you recreate such conditions, then compare

                it will be difficult, there are no serial gus.s dump trucks for such a V / m - they are gluttonous. Yes and so they won’t be able to

                -------------------------------------------------- ------------
                if I’m not mistaken, the Volvo E160 excavator is about 16 tons (Operating weight, 15,3–16,5 t) = 30–40 kPA ground pressure, against 335 kPa (152 front axles + 183 rear axles) / empty 127 + 54 on the A30D.
                minimum 10 times more
                Quote: Oleg Chertkov
                free and easy.

                you need to think a little with your head (if any).
                And now "freely and naturally" let the excavator drive (with a tool or with a load) from point A to point B, say, at a distance of 300 km at a speed of 53-70 km / h?
                What could not? "ease" gone?
                the "relaxed" speed is High travel speed - 5,0 km / h
                And fell apart after 20km? and ruined ANY DOP?
                Happenes
                Quote: Oleg Chertkov
                You "whipped" yourself
                his stupid comment
              2. ksv1973
                ksv1973 12 February 2016 15: 07
                +1
                Quote: Oleg Chertkov
                There is no crook than articulated chassis.
                You "whipped" yourself with a video with an excavator spinning around a stuck wheeled "rogue", I will note on TRACKS on unprepared ground, freely and naturally.

                That's right, Oleg! And let's not forget that the soil in the video is dry. On ALL videos about the Swedish monster, the soil is always such that you can drive on a SUV. And will the Swede go far along the LANDSCAPE fields soggy from autumn rains?
                1. opus
                  opus 12 February 2016 16: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: ksv1973
                  And let's not forget that the soil in the video is dry. On ALL videos about the Swedish monster, the ground is always the same on which you can drive on the SUV.

                  I will stand up for the "Swedish monster":
                  1. The soil is not dry, the soil is moist. Not a typical swamp, yes.
                  2. So on "raw"? (We also have this with 20 tons of cargo)

                  In order to carry nonsense about SUVs, it was necessary to visit Murmansk when the marshes of the m / y Lodeynoy Pole and Podporozhye were mastered.
                  It was famously, bulldozers were drowning
                  Is there a difference (at least for cargo)?


                  3.Typical "SUV"

                  1. ksv1973
                    ksv1973 12 February 2016 18: 20
                    0
                    Quote: opus
                    In order to carry nonsense about parking, it was necessary to visit Murmansk, when the swamps m / a Lodeynoy field and Podporozhye mastered.
                    It was famously, bulldozers were drowning
                    Is there a difference (at least for cargo)?


                    3.Typical "SUV"


                    Well, if you also attach an excavator to the self-propelled guns ... Wonderful army will work !!! laughing
                    And what about "talking nonsense" ... Nonsense is if the self-propelled gun will "squirm" in an ordinary washout for more than 10 seconds, as Zil-157 does in the above video. ACS alone (well, if just for vodka) does not go. And now there is a column behind her, and she is trying to get out of the trap. And there she, and here ... What the hell is SUCH SPG?
                    1. opus
                      opus 12 February 2016 19: 34
                      0
                      Quote: ksv1973
                      Nonsense is if the self-propelled gun will "wrestle" in a normal washout for more than 10 seconds,

                      I have serious doubts that you have a category VU "C" (I am silent about "E"), and at least once on a truck (but oh well, we drove PKW
                      Quote: ksv1973
                      in a regular washout
                      ) ...
                      I personally on the A30D, on the Bell 40 and on the Cat, which were articulated articulated, rode in polygons and in nature.
                      So for reference:
                      For the restoration of the Lublin filtration fields in Moscow, the Mechanization Department - 25 (a branch of Mosstroimekhanizatsiya-5 CJSC) purchased 20 Volvo dump trucks, which ensured the implementation of the project. For several years, 10 million m3 of sludge was removed from Lublino, in some areas the layer of sludge reached a depth of nine meters. 15 million m3 of sand was poured into the cleared area.
                      Quote: ksv1973
                      On horseradish SUCH

                      Well, show an alternative (chassis) ??

                      ------------------------------
                      Soon we will have
                      Quote: ksv1973
                      To hell SUCH SAU?


                      Thanks to a reliable transmission, a powerful articulated assembly and a frame, the Kirovets K-708.2 dump truck received unrivaled maneuverability, maneuverability and reliability.
    3. Kars
      Kars 11 February 2016 15: 53
      +9
      Swedes have always been original.
      1. opus
        opus 11 February 2016 22: 07
        0
        Quote: Kars
        Swedes have always been original.


        and so (not original) was better? lol


        ==============================================

        There are a lot of original ones:



    4. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 11 February 2016 15: 54
      +2
      we don’t need their ferret
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 11 February 2016 18: 58
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Awesome thing! Look at youtube how it hrenachit. And most importantly, mobile, as I don’t know what! Arrived, threw buns and after five minutes she was already gone. We definitely need these, and more!

      Maneuverability is certainly good, but it only shoots from an ammunition base, but Msta can load from the ground. Such a useful function
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 11 February 2016 20: 12
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        ... Maneuverability is certainly good, but it only shoots from the ammunition, but Msta can load from the ground ...

        Excuse me, what kind of maneuverability, what are you talking about ?! Only self-propelled guns on tracked chassis have real maneuverability and freedom of movement. And this Swedish "sperm whale" is akin to a wagon. What is the turning radius of the truck? And "Msta" or "Coalition" are unfolding on the spot.
        1. opus
          opus 11 February 2016 22: 27
          -1
          Quote: ksv1973
          ... And this Swedish "sperm whale" is akin to a wagon. What is the turning radius of the truck?

          truck rests


          Articulated 6X6 frame on the FH77 BW L52 Archer
          fully automated transmission, three-point suspension, unique trailed hinge that allows you to rotate 360g, longitudinal and transverse locking with 100% locking of all axes.



          video 25 (but not the essence 30 more powerful)

  2. newcomer
    newcomer 11 February 2016 15: 43
    +3
    our Trans-Urals are cooler!
  3. sever.56
    sever.56 11 February 2016 15: 43
    +3
    What can not be taken away from the Swedes is that they know how to do the technique.
  4. Road runer
    Road runer 11 February 2016 15: 43
    +3
    At least the characteristics of this installation were laid out in the article negative
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 11 February 2016 15: 47
      0
      Quote: Road Runer
      At least the characteristics of this installation were laid out in the article negative

      check out ...
      http://topwar.ru/33997-samohodnaya-gaubica-fh77bw-l52-archer-shveciya.html
  5. Victor62ru
    Victor62ru 11 February 2016 15: 44
    +2
    Well, with the initiative of you, gentlemen, the Swedes!
  6. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 11 February 2016 15: 45
    +1
    If they seriously believe in Russian aggression through snowy areas, then the choice of wheeled chassis is very strange. Or are they hoping to trample snow everywhere?
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 11 February 2016 17: 44
      0
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      If they seriously believe in Russian aggression through snowy areas, then the choice of wheeled chassis is very strange. Or are they hoping to trample snow everywhere?

      And then "Russian aggression" ??? Sweden is the only European country that does not depend on the NATO military-industrial complex.
      1. opus
        opus 12 February 2016 00: 49
        0
        Quote: Atrix
        Sweden is the only European country that does not depend on the military-industrial complex of NATO.


        France is the same (it is generally not tied to American patents, de Gaulle was led)

        Although Sweden has developed a full cycle of creating military and dual-use products - from R&D to serial production of weapons and military equipment.

        High concentration of R&D in large industrial companies such as Ericsson AB, ABB AB, Astra Zeneca AB, Volvo AB, Saab AB, GKN Aerospace Sviden AB
        However:
        BAE Systems AB is a subsidiary of BAE Systems Land and Armaments - British Defense BAE Systems.
        M982 Excalibur (XM982) 155 mm developed by Raytheon Missile Systems and BAE Systems AB
        BAE Systems Bofors
        BAE Systems Hägglunds
        BAE Systems C-ITS

        General Electric F414G for Saab JAS 39 Gripen (with it 39th reached 1,2M without afterburner)

        Taurus Systems GmbH (JV LFK-Lenkflugkörpersysteme (EADS / MBDA) and Swedish Saab-Bofors Dynamics) = - subsonic aviation long-range cruise missiles Taurus KEPD (Kinetic Penetration Destroyer)

  7. Ronino
    Ronino 11 February 2016 15: 46
    +2
    Likely towed artillery survives the last years of life ...
    It is important to quickly shoot back and immediately flush from the firing position.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 February 2016 15: 51
      +2
      Quote: RoninO
      Likely towed artillery survives the last years of life ...
      It is important to quickly shoot back and immediately flush from the firing position.



      a couple of years ago on the discovery about them was
      goes to the edge, shoots a burst of four shots and leaves to reload
      Meanwhile, the first shell flies to the target ...
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 11 February 2016 15: 47
    +4
    Well, I don’t know, somewhere in the fall it was said about the trials of this thing. It was also said about TTX. I don’t know, nothing impressed me. unless a quick salvo and into the bushes. I did not see anything new.
  9. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 11 February 2016 15: 49
    +1
    A very interesting weapon .. The Swedes are generally jack of all trades .. The "Bofors" and "Oerlikon" guns mean something .. Well, the "Zauralets" is a tool for a different purpose, and their tasks are different ..
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 11 February 2016 15: 57
      +5
      Oerlikon is the Swiss hi
  10. Jrvin
    Jrvin 11 February 2016 15: 50
    0
    The point is to make a super mega cabin and armor if you can throw out a radiator with one bullet that is on the side photo?
    1. Mister22408
      Mister22408 11 February 2016 16: 33
      +3
      Radiator behind an armored sandwich, side vent. At the top of the module with a thermal imager and a slingshot on the arrow-strippers and flying hoes.
  11. Samen
    Samen 11 February 2016 15: 50
    +1
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    Awesome thing! Look at youtube how it hrenachit. And most importantly, mobile, as I don’t know what! Arrived, threw buns and after five minutes she was already gone. We definitely need these, and more!

    Yes! It looks solid! It is not clear only: will the calculation run nearby? Or is this gun a full-fledged machine gun? Where are the specifications?
  12. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 11 February 2016 15: 51
    +2
    The Swedes have so many enemies all over the world that without self-propelled guns they don’t ... wassat
  13. Engineer
    Engineer 11 February 2016 15: 52
    13
    Highly automated howitzer - 20 rounds in the machine, 8 rounds per minute. The firing range with King Arthur’s sword like this is up to 60km. In general, the parameters are very impressive.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 11 February 2016 16: 02
      +3
      the number is only 24 sau for the whole of Sweden and the cost of such a projectile is very high, and to shoot at 60 km one sau is not enough and intelligence is also needed, correctors at 60 km do not work. but the self-propelled guns are really strong in terms of performance.
      1. Atrix
        Atrix 11 February 2016 17: 48
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        only 24 sau for the whole of Sweden

        So they just accepted it, and already 24 pieces have it. And Sweden is not Russia with its vast territory and possible directions of attacks on the country.
  14. Michael67
    Michael67 11 February 2016 15: 53
    -1
    Quote: RoninO
    Likely towed artillery survives the last years of life ...
    It is important to quickly shoot back and immediately flush from the firing position.

    The future is in artillery systems capable of firing on the move (highway, ground) with positioning and target designation from satellites online.
  15. Black cat
    Black cat 11 February 2016 15: 54
    +1
    TTX in the article did not lead, but in appearance the mass is decent. So, most likely, the lack of caterpillar traction will make itself felt. We don’t need Swedish goodness, we have to make our own from our components. But it is necessary to steal the performance characteristics and test results.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 11 February 2016 15: 59
      0
      TTX has not been a secret for a long time: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_(СУ,_ Sweden)
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    3. yuriy55
      yuriy55 11 February 2016 16: 06
      +6
      What to rub? Its not worse:
  16. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 11 February 2016 16: 06
    0
    The contract is expected to be fully completed by the end of 2017.
    Then there may still be the same contract for Denmark.
  17. k_ply
    k_ply 11 February 2016 16: 11
    +1
    Archer on the manufacturer's website (brochure.pdf there):
    http://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/archer

    By the way, Norway does not plan to purchase them:
    http://www.army-guide.com/rus/article/article_2866.html
    Rather prefer the Swiss offer (IMHO).
  18. taseka
    taseka 11 February 2016 16: 14
    +1
    Better Russian gunners in the world and never will !!!
  19. botsman80
    botsman80 11 February 2016 16: 31
    +2
    and as for me, the wheelbase is good in peacetime, and if used for its intended purpose, that is, in combat, the tracked one will be better ...
  20. From Samara
    From Samara 11 February 2016 16: 37
    +2
    Excellent Installation. There, the rate of fire is amazing in combination with destructive power, and very mobile!

    The campaign near the Swedish military-industrial complex for this installation will soon be in line ...
  21. triglav
    triglav 11 February 2016 17: 02
    -1
    Yes, we have such! And they will be more self-propelled And surpass in range.
  22. Tjeck
    Tjeck 11 February 2016 17: 11
    +2
    While studying and working in Sweden, he made friends with one Swede as a soldier, their army really consists of the latest weapons systems, but he said that it ceased to be a full-fledged combat unit at the moment when the service ceased to be conscripted. Now the number of the Swedish army is 45-50 thousand together with reservists, and so 15-18 thousand. They are simply lacking people except to have the illusion of a crap in some kind of Afghanistan or train to look for Russian submarines. In other words, the Swedes do not have an army, their armed forces are more like special forces both in terms of numbers and the abundance of weapons / gadgets.
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 11 February 2016 17: 54
      0
      Quote: Tjeck
      While studying and working in Sweden, he made friends with one Swede as a soldier, their army really consists of the latest weapons systems, but he said that it ceased to be a full-fledged combat unit at the moment when the service ceased to be conscripted. Now the number of the Swedish army is 45-50 thousand together with reservists, and so 15-18 thousand. They are simply lacking people except to have the illusion of a crap in some kind of Afghanistan or train to look for Russian submarines. In other words, the Swedes do not have an army, their armed forces are more like special forces both in terms of numbers and the abundance of weapons / gadgets.

      The country is not going to fight with Russia is not a member of NATO. So what for do they keep hundreds of thousands of warriors.
      1. Tjeck
        Tjeck 11 February 2016 19: 25
        0
        And that's true. But in the event of a larger conflict, Sweden is again "rented" as it was during the Second World War. 150+ brand new leopards and the rest of the equipment is ultimately good, but the infantry has always been and remains the main factor.
  23. engin
    engin 11 February 2016 17: 38
    +2
    Why chains on the 1 and 2 bridge? 4x6? and the crew from the cockpit in the photo looks sadly ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 11 February 2016 19: 08
      0
      Quote: engin
      Why chains on the 1 and 2 bridge? 4x6? and the crew from the cockpit in the photo looks sadly ...

      This crocodile from Volvo really4X6! We have a lot of such articulated dump trucks working ... Naughty and frivolous car ...
  24. magirus401
    magirus401 11 February 2016 17: 46
    0
    Quote: engin
    Why chains on the 1 and 2 bridge? 4x6? and the crew from the cockpit in the photo looks sadly ...


    Because it’s sad that the chains weren’t enough;
  25. waitknait
    waitknait 11 February 2016 18: 48
    -1
    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this archer is shit. One ugly cockpit is worth it. And also, I would see how its cannon would move at -30. Further retractable "legs", and if the soil is bad ?! And the height of the car is a HUGE BARN.
  26. Skym
    Skym 11 February 2016 20: 30
    +1
    We are waiting for the Coalition at the wheelbase.
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 11 February 2016 22: 09
      0
      The wheeled chassis has one minus on the battlefield is a lot of fragments of all kinds of metal pieces and this leads to the cut of cylinders, and so it’s easier to maintain than a goose.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 12 February 2016 01: 20
      0
      By the way
      from the same "Shore" take a base and put a tower on it from the Coalition
      but I suspect that this will not be