In Ukraine, reanimated anti-tank "Baby"

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Armed Forces of Ukraine reanimated anti-tank missiles “Malyutka”, inherited from Ukraine from the “damned” Soviet past, and which had to be disposed of due to their old age, 20 ago.

In Ukraine, reanimated anti-tank "Baby"


“Recently, anti-tank Malyutka anti-tank missiles installed on infantry fighting vehicles BMP-1 have begun to flash more often. Today, they can be considered already “zombies”, since the Ukrainian military “revived” what had long been intended for recycling, ”the agency writes Messenger of Mordovia.



“According to some data, the“ Babies ”(which had been brought to Ukraine from the countries of the Warsaw Pact) that had worked out their storage periods were planned to be destroyed in the last years of the USSR, but did not have time. Some of the best-preserved rockets were sold abroad, to various hot spots, from Africa to Europe. Another number of “Maliutok” was destroyed by numerous fires in the Ukrainian military depots, ”explains the author of the publication.

This weapon refers to the anti-tank complexes 1-th generation. They entered service more than 50 years ago. The length of the rocket 86 cm, weight - about 11 kg, range - up to 3 km.



“This complex was criticized for a large“ dead zone ”, on the order of 500. Closer of this distance, due to the design, was impossible to defeat. In addition, the rocket flew not very fast by modern standards, around 120 m / s. Therefore, the maximum range was overcome in 26 seconds, ”the publication notes.

In addition, according to the author, “Baby” is impossible to hit “in the forehead” Tanks such as T-64BV and T-72B, and "the lack of tandem warheads on missiles available in Ukraine does not allow overcoming the dynamic protection of armored vehicles."
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  1. +19
    11 February 2016 14: 51
    Looks like they realized that there will be no TOU. smile
    1. +36
      11 February 2016 14: 56
      Here is a photo closer
      it’s strange that it’s been half a year already, or even more of them are visible, but here is the news))
      1. +33
        11 February 2016 14: 58
        they would squeak at that rate with muzzle artillery; laughing then axes with bows will be put into action))))
        1. -2
          11 February 2016 15: 19
          Quote: Sasha
          Then axes with bows will be put into action))))

          Slang ax - BGM-109. One of the best cruise missiles. We definitely don’t need such axes
        2. +4
          11 February 2016 16: 23
          Could be so. As many as two trunks.
        3. +1
          11 February 2016 16: 27

          And then they will launch the Kozatsky Podvodniy Choven into the water and begin to bury (in) the Black Sea ...
        4. +13
          11 February 2016 16: 42
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          they would squeak at that rate with muzzle artillery; laughing then axes with bows will be put into action))))

          So it will come to "nuclear" weapons
      2. +13
        11 February 2016 15: 00
        Paint in the colors of the flag and can be passed off as a new Ukrainian development. What to write off a rather large amount. I think it will be done.
      3. +10
        11 February 2016 15: 23
        I do not understand such a sarcastic hysteria.
        even if each 4 flies then it is already not enough.
        And so - and to whom it is easy now.
        1. +2
          11 February 2016 15: 46
          If verified, then more than one of the four.

          The only problem is the operators. There is none of them. They need to be prepared. Putting "Malyutki" on BMP-1, implying that the gunner-operator will be able to shoot back is stupidity. Just for complacency. Well, in order to instill in their fighters a false sense of the high combat efficiency of the unit.
        2. +12
          11 February 2016 15: 52
          Quote: Kars
          I do not understand such a sarcastic hysteria.
          even if each 4 flies then it is already not enough.

          Where will it fly?

          "Baby" is the 1st generation. There, all guidance is carried out by the operator manually - therefore, the requirements for its preparation are extremely high. A hand trembled a little - and the ATGM either goes into the ground, or starts to cosplay the missile defense unsuccessfully.

          This is now shifted 2/3 of the guidance to automatic - the calculation only needs to charge the launcher, aim at the target, launch and hold the sight mark on the target - the ATGM will be brought to the target by automatic. And the "Baby" has an operator's eye instead of a feedback sensor catching the radiation of the tail tracer, and instead of a semi-automatic control system - a brain and a right hand on the joystick.
          1. 0
            12 February 2016 01: 01
            Quote: Alexey RA
            "Baby" is the 1st generation. There, all guidance is carried out by the operator manually - therefore, the requirements for its preparation are extremely high. A hand trembled a little - and the ATGM either goes into the ground, or starts to cosplay the missile defense unsuccessfully.

            The Chinese, when modernizing their copy of the Baby HJ-73B, used semi-automatic guidance (as on the Bassoon). It is clear that the Chinese did not expire storage time 20 years ago.
        3. +12
          11 February 2016 15: 58
          - I do not understand such a sarcastic hysteria.

          I'll explain. It's just that this is happening in the "strongest army on the continent," a state that claims a place among the exporters of arms. Yes, and also about NATO standards, something there ... Well, there is also: "We will take Siberia and Moscow and reach Vladik"
          Remembered? Here from here and laugh to heaven. It should be noted fair. Himself, I’m not joking just because I’m tired of it for a long time ...
        4. +3
          11 February 2016 18: 28
          Quote: Kars
          I do not understand such a sarcastic hysteria.
          even if each 4 flies then it is already not enough.
          And so - and to whom it is easy now.

          But no one will watch you (this is not an appeal), change the first, then, the second, then the third - they will blow out of everything that is and hi relatives ...
          Using them is just a setup for BMP crews - that’s all.
        5. 0
          12 February 2016 00: 57
          Quote: Kars
          I do not understand such a sarcastic hysteria.
          even if each 4 flies then it is already not enough

          That every fourth would fly, at least just fly towards the target - every third should not explode at launch.
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        7. 0
          12 February 2016 05: 38
          Quote: Kars
          even if each 4 flies then it is already not enough

          Yes, it’s not a matter of flying or not, but of where and how much ...
          I had these Babies on the BRDM-2 and still studied on the 100 guns. This was the end of the 80's. Just imagine the 100-mm battery against the then modern T-72 tanks. Well, even the T-62. There are chances, but they depend on camouflage until the 1 volley :)
          So here Baby against modern systems - the same thing. She has an effective range of destruction - 1,5, well, 2 km. Further, you simply cannot figure out nicherta, it is not visible - far away, there is no electronic increase. And then you won’t really understand 500 m either - you won’t take aim at a specific point on the tank, the main thing is to get somewhere :) Well, the modern distance of the battle is understandable :) Considering that most tanks are still with dynamic armor with which Little Alas is not familiar: ) - the only sense is to scare.
          Against the infantry ... well, in principle, everyone has some kind of high-explosive action ... if the infantry goes in close battalion "Napoleonic" columns .. :)
      4. +9
        11 February 2016 15: 29
        ATGM "Baby" was the last domestic complex of the first generation with a 9M14 shell. This projectile was controlled by wire and had a range of 3000 meters. According to foreign experts, the Malyutka ATGM in all respects significantly exceeded any foreign counterparts.

        The "baby" in the 9P111 satchel with a slight difference in weight is much more compact and transportable than the West German Mamba shell in the closure - the modernized 1972 Cobra
        The body of the Cobra airframe is made of cardboard pipe with hardening impregnation. The marching and starting engine cases are aluminum alloyed. Plastic parts are molded from thermoplastic plastics
        Some combatants believe that, solving many combat missions in Chechnya, it would be possible to do without Fagot missiles and helicopters, you just have to use the 9M14 ATGM, replacing the cumulative warhead (warhead) with a fragmentation warhead. Despite the primitiveness of the actions carried out in parts by the forces of the fighters themselves, they achieved some success, but they do not judge the winners.
    2. +1
      11 February 2016 14: 59
      Necrophiles, in a word.
      1. +4
        11 February 2016 15: 05
        Quote: vodolaz
        Necrophiles, in a word.

        Then the necromancers. Necrophilia is somewhat different - a manifestation of sexual deviation. For the purposes of sexual gratification, ammunition does not seem to use ammunition. bully
    3. +5
      11 February 2016 14: 59
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Looks like they realized that there will be no TOU. smile

      They will write "TOU" in chalk on a rocket - it will be TOU, business ...
      1. +2
        11 February 2016 15: 53
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        They will write "TOU" in chalk on a rocket - it will be TOU, business ...

        And some money will also be written off for this business!
      2. +2
        11 February 2016 15: 55
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Write in chalk on a rocket "TOU" - there will be TOU,

        Javelin! smile
    4. +51
      11 February 2016 15: 03
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/842/ggrt340.jpg
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      2. +1
        11 February 2016 15: 43
        The picture is lovely. Matrix gap.
    5. +53
      11 February 2016 15: 03
      Honestly, in the Ukrainians' camp there is complete chaos, from the company to the general staff. They have conflicting orders every day. That is, good is advancing, and the commanders of battalions and brigades are updating the situation, launching the DRG. We won’t attack and we are only worried about the shelling.
      Every day, Ukrainians lose their chances of at least some sort of success. The army is degrading and scattering. delays in payment of combat are already massive. A lot of l / s coughs up flu and pneumonia. Of course there is drunkenness, but as a result of self-arrows, accidents and fires.
      A lot of ammunition has been brought up, but in the conditions of terrible storage over the past 25 years, some ammunition is dangerous to use. And in the conditions of trench warfare and the installation "to fire on the residents of Donbass and not let them live in peace", the consumption of mines, art and tank shells is very high.
      The APU has a large shortage of 12,7 mm, 14,5 mm caliber for machine guns, as well as a shortage of 23 mm and 30 mm for automatic guns.

      There are a lot of art and tank shells. There are few 122-mm rockets left for the Grad MLRS, very few 220-mm missiles for the Uragan MLRS, and there are practically no 300-mm missiles left for the Smerch MLRS.
      One of the last large warehouses flew into the air in the occupied city of LPR Svatovo.
      There is enough for a rifle bk, a lot remained with the collapse of the Union. Yes, and "partners" help. But the rest, as I wrote above, are big problems. And here the former Warsaw bloc can help little. They, like Ukraine, have been selling weapons and ammunition for 25 years. And also, unlike Ukraine, the old ammunition was disposed of. Now, with the transition to NATO models, they have practically no Soviet-made ammunition left.
      At APU, shell hunger was already felt last year. And now, after the Debaltsev operation and the positional war over the past year, the crisis has come.
      For anti-tank systems and missiles to them, a very big famine. Therefore, they are ringing in Washington to be given exactly this weapon.
      1. +1
        11 February 2016 15: 08
        Respect to all of you!
      2. +3
        11 February 2016 15: 16
        Thanks, nice to hear that.
      3. PKK
        +1
        11 February 2016 15: 39
        If the United States gives weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then Pinocchio with the Solntseki will be received in return.
      4. 0
        11 February 2016 15: 39
        You are right Sergey. The war did not kill all the fools, it helps drunkenness, flu and drugs.
    6. Dam
      +1
      11 February 2016 15: 21
      Another "zdobuli". With them, everything is clear, but the next respect to Soviet technology. Written off, spent with moths, but shoots.
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  2. +1
    11 February 2016 14: 51
    Do they know how to fly?
    1. +3
      11 February 2016 14: 55
      see the inflated ball on the BMP?
      if you add balls or drop ballast, it will fly laughing
      And in the first photo I pinned the VSUshnik on the armor in fishing boots, roaming boots with high legs wrapped smile
    2. 0
      11 February 2016 14: 55
      .. they won’t be able to fly - because they’ll also be able to dig .. =)
    3. +2
      11 February 2016 15: 03
      Quote: seregatara1969
      Do they know how to fly?

      They know how, only the old wire is often broken.
    4. 0
      11 February 2016 19: 07
      and they know how to fly ?,
      do you mean dill? Yatsenyuk, but very low (from the rostrum)
  3. +3
    11 February 2016 14: 53
    Tsem peremoga lol ! Damn, and peerozmozhniki are not afraid that the products at startup will explode directly on the PU? foolSoon they will begin to use catapults and slings, hiding behind the detachments of archers! They trample the country in the Middle Ages!But under the USSR there was a powerful industry, but then the occupation
  4. +1
    11 February 2016 14: 53
    Soon museum exhibits will go. The last convulsions of a dying man ...
    1. +5
      11 February 2016 15: 00
      Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
      Soon museum exhibits will go. The last convulsions of a dying man ...

      Anti-tank Throwing Machine laughing
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  5. +1
    11 February 2016 14: 53
    NATO will cry when he finds out what the denyuzhka is leaving from the IMF)))
    they reanimated the babies. The reanimation of expired goods is the harsh reality of a rugging ruin country.
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  6. +4
    11 February 2016 14: 53
    it is not strange, in the light of the recent killings of military production and production in general. Soon they will go to the front with slingshots. the good is an example: Indian police were rearmed for slingshots. recognized as the best weapon against crowds.
    1. +4
      11 February 2016 15: 11
      A slingshot in capable hands is a terrible weapon. Checked by hooligan childhood.
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      2. +1
        11 February 2016 15: 17
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        A slingshot in capable hands is a terrible weapon. Checked by hooligan childhood.

        Some still use
        1. +4
          11 February 2016 15: 46
          In NATO, a slingshot is regularly included in the set of equipment for a communications center; it throws antennas.
      3. +1
        11 February 2016 15: 56
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        A slingshot in capable hands is a terrible weapon.

        To whom - a slingshot, and to whom - a silent trench anti-personnel grenade launcher. smile

        Or anti-tank:
  7. 0
    11 February 2016 14: 55
    Not well, but a stylish rare weapon.
    1. 0
      11 February 2016 15: 05
      Quote: Smoked
      Not well, but a stylish rare weapon.

      Yes, museums miss them
  8. +8
    11 February 2016 14: 55
    The term was no longer even 20, but 30 years ago ... Even the later bassoons misfired - "they misfire, about 50/50, I'm sorry, I didn't check it," (C) Brother 2 And then Baby ...
    1. +1
      11 February 2016 15: 19
      Then it makes sense to carry them with you? Is it to intimidate the enemy.
  9. 0
    11 February 2016 14: 59
    aha haaa, the culinary hunt is open for the campaign for kasyanov))) remember the cake they hit him on the face? here is the continuation))))


    Mikhail Kasyanov threw eggs at the Parnas party’s party during a trip to Vladimir. Two days ago, he was attacked in a Moscow restaurant - they threw a cake at him, and the Kremlin called it a hooligan trick
  10. +23
    11 February 2016 15: 00
    ! But under the USSR there was a powerful industry, but then the occupation
    1. +4
      11 February 2016 15: 09
      Of course laughing Before the first presidency, Putin personally traveled to Ukraine, drowned ships, ruined the economy, soldered scientists and designers, put mines in toilets. In general, I had fun as I could Yes laughing laughing
    2. -9
      11 February 2016 15: 52
      Quote: kot28.ru
      ! But under the USSR there was a powerful industry, but then the occupation

      The one who is to blame (one of them) now lives in Russia, for which he was flooded ...
    3. 0
      12 February 2016 05: 48
      Dak Ridna Ukraina wanted to go to Europe - and went, and Europe doesn't need its economy and education, they have their own. Now in Europe, but without everything :) By the way, the Baltics as well. In my opinion, the only more or less successful plant in Estonia was oil shale. And that "WAS" - before oil prices fell. But - the European Union, how can ... The Biltijans should at least go to work in Germany and Finland to work as laborers. they are in the EU and can travel freely, but the Ukrainians were not even allowed to do that - don't rock the boat and devour each other like cockroaches in a bank. How, then, freedom! - within the bank ...
  11. 0
    11 February 2016 15: 01
    Back to the future ... in five years, dill will become a sling. Then Europe will become a little closer ...
  12. +6
    11 February 2016 15: 04
    I wonder if we will see British Saxons upgraded to the level of "missile carriers"?
    1. +1
      11 February 2016 15: 14
      Quote: reservist
      I wonder if the British Saxons will be upgraded to the level of "missile carriers"?

      Yeah. Direct competitors to Iskander.
    2. +2
      11 February 2016 15: 16
      According to Svidomo, the Saxons themselves are terrible weapons, even without missiles and guns. “They're British,” another horse whispers enthusiastically. They firmly believe that any American or British weapon, even thirty years ago, is an order of magnitude superior to ours and makes it, a horse, invulnerable.
  13. 0
    11 February 2016 15: 13
    And they themselves are not afraid to use such antiquity?
  14. +3
    11 February 2016 15: 15
    Quote: seregatara1969
    Do they know how to fly?

    tics low laughing
  15. +6
    11 February 2016 15: 17
    There is a big-age baby near the BMP, on which the ball is tied.

    I would like to ask: "Where, darling, are you going? Are you really going to go to war in Russia? Who taught you this? How much promised and how much did you pay? Are you going to win glory and respect for yourself with this smooth-bore 73-mm gun? You will win ..." hot tea and our hospitality " If you are not convinced, put this ball on your head so that everyone can see what kind of "ball" person you are ... " fool
  16. +1
    11 February 2016 15: 17
    There is a known case when the Croatian tank T-34-85 of the Second World War successfully survived two hits of these ATGMs
    They were intended for shooting at enemy tanks. Since the shells were very expensive, at that time they were equal to the cost of the Zhiguli car.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Малютка_(ПТРК)
    By the way, Wikipedia indicates that we still have them in service .. (?)
    1. +3
      11 February 2016 15: 32
      What is in service with the Russian Federation has undergone many upgrades and differs from the base model as much as the original version of the Tu-95 bomber, capable of carrying only conventional bombs and the Tu-95SM missile carrier. Tu-95 is a long-lived aircraft, but little is left of the original version in modern cars. Tu-95 was built since 1955, and the last cars were released in 1992 and they are very different in combat capabilities.
    2. +1
      11 February 2016 16: 35
      We were in service before 93-his T-34, but no one was going to fight on them and in parts they were not.
  17. +3
    11 February 2016 15: 19
    Normal rockets, against light armored vehicles, covered infantry and firing points - are just great. They wrote right there that in Syria the Asadites were successfully using them.
    1. +3
      11 February 2016 15: 43
      I myself am glad to grumble. Especially about these ... stoned ones. But "Baby", if it works (50/50, more, less), totally agree with you, an unpleasant ammunition. Therefore, it is probably worth making certain corrections to this fact, prepare accordingly.
  18. -4
    11 February 2016 15: 24
    It is strange that they did not make a portable version of MALUTKA, so to speak, for bush fighting. Shoot and run, under cover of the terrain. 500 meters, for BMP, is the distance of death. The second year "fighting" sense zero. Apparently hired indoor instructors are of little help.
    1. +6
      11 February 2016 15: 43
      Quote: W1975
      It is strange that they did not make the portable version from MALUTE ...

      The portable version of the Malyutka ATGM has long been in service with the SA.
    2. 0
      11 February 2016 17: 06
      Well, you saw American sergeants - they know how to yell
  19. +1
    11 February 2016 15: 26
    Quote: reservist
    I wonder if we will see British Saxons upgraded to the level of "missile carriers"?

    Interestingly, what did these saxons do at the small-shanks? Chasing Irish militias? By the way, how is the IRA doing there, can we help them with something?
  20. 0
    11 February 2016 15: 26
    They put it for a show off. To paint the BMP-1 look.
  21. +1
    11 February 2016 15: 29
    Well, someday "Baby" will play a cruel joke with them. The terms for disposal have long passed and no one knows how such an installation will behave.
    1. +5
      11 February 2016 15: 46
      You are not right ; The Verkhovna Rada will send a complaint to the manufacturer and will sue the Hague Tribunal. laughing
  22. +3
    11 February 2016 15: 33
    Now, if you wrote that the babies burned the Abrams, then they would say that this is a cool legacy of the Soviet past)), and since the Ukrainians have little babies
  23. 0
    11 February 2016 15: 33
    It was developed in KBM (Kolomna) in 1960. Chief Designer - S.P. Invincible. September 16, 1963 was adopted. In the USSR, they were produced before 1984, more than 300 thousand pieces were produced, and was also mass-produced in China and Yugoslavia.
  24. +5
    11 February 2016 15: 33
    It is necessary, being consistent, to ban Svidomo wrestlers with Soviet names, monuments, Soviet history and memory from using Soviet factories, Soviet developments, Soviet weapons and Soviet lands of Donbass. What will be left?
  25. +2
    11 February 2016 15: 40
    The baby is controlled by wire and used simulators to train personnel since atmospheric conditions require experience on the rocket. In general, a copper wire is wound on the rocket, if you unwind and pass it, at least something will be applied.
    1. +2
      11 February 2016 15: 44
      Quote: Alexander 3
      In general, a copper wire is wound around a rocket, if you unwind and pass at least something will be applied.


      This will end.
  26. 0
    11 February 2016 15: 43
    It was necessary to paint and declare how the Americans gave us a new change of type of Jeweling, and to jump on the Maidan for joy.
  27. PKK
    0
    11 February 2016 15: 43
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Then it makes sense to carry them with you? Is it to intimidate the enemy.

    Rather, for complacency, this is how we crash and then drive on the armor.
  28. +1
    11 February 2016 15: 48
    There is a suspicion that copper wires have long been handed over to the purchase of non-ferrous metal. With the help of the booze they bought, treated them to the equipment. He put down in the forms that "truncated okay". Well, now let's fly.
  29. 0
    11 February 2016 15: 54
    I would replace the warhead in their place with a cumulative warhead for the OF, there would be more sense.
  30. 0
    11 February 2016 16: 15
    The Ukrainian SSR was the most developed republic. And for 25 years everything was squandered
    the economy was nullified by their brains too. Country Downs.
  31. 0
    11 February 2016 16: 16
    This is from hopelessness!
  32. 0
    11 February 2016 17: 49
    Dill "Wundervavli" from the pimps did not follow ... It's just that the waffle ended up being expired. IMF PROMISES money by oath for a year now ... Promises ... Where can the rocks go? That's right, in the trash! In Russia, they tried to steal rocket engines from the garbage - they caught the ever-flowing sad losers. On their own, they found it. They can also shoot themselves with it from the eternal and sad hopelessness, like their anthem and the soaked banner. They are still "Voyuyut with Russia" (c) flawed. The Russian Aerospace Forces, for example, in Syria, Barmaleev sprays qualitatively. The Maidowns have not yet been sprayed simply because the one whom they always remember more often than God (Putin) said that "We do not destroy brothers" (c). Though these lousy former brothers. "And Sharikov should be on the ear!" (from) . MABulgakov "Heart of a Dog".
  33. +1
    11 February 2016 19: 08
    But what about "de-communization"? "Babies" are made in the USSR. Zrada, definitely.
  34. +1
    12 February 2016 05: 50
    In the truth of Khokhlyat stupidity there are no borders.
  35. +1
    12 February 2016 08: 09
    If the "Babies" have everything to clean the engine and warhead,
    then the topic is manageable and not important. You can stupidly and massively run
    towards the target, like "Katyusha". And she can do little harm there,
    but will bring. And if, in addition, the warhead is covered with nails (chopped fittings) and wrapped with wire,
    then in general the thing will work out.

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