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State Department: Disagreements with Ankara on the Kurdish Question Remain

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Disagreements with Ankara in the assessment of the forces of the Kurdish people's self-defense (SNA) persist - Washington does not consider the SNA to be a terrorist organization, reports RIA News Statement by State Department spokesman Mark Toner.


State Department: Disagreements with Ankara on the Kurdish Question Remain


Toner reminded reporters that "Turkey considers self-defense a terrorist organization affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which is considered a terrorist organization by both Washington and Ankara."

However, "we do not agree with this," said a representative of the American department, noting that "self-defense units are an effective force in the fight against the IS (IG)."

“Turkey has in the past expressed concern about the ties (Kurdish self-defense) with the PKK. We do not see such a connection, that's all, ”summed up Toner.

Recall on Wednesday Erdogan again criticized the US position on the Kurds. “The SNS is the same terrorists as the PKK, and their support is tantamount to supporting the terrorists,” he said.
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  1. izya top
    izya top 11 February 2016 11: 17
    +4
    why, the exceptional ones have not yet made a choice?
    1. Vend
      Vend 11 February 2016 11: 18
      +5
      Quote: iza top
      why, the exceptional ones have not yet made a choice?

      Yes, with any choice, it’s better for Russia
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 11 February 2016 11: 20
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        Quote: Wend
        Yes, with any choice, it’s better for Russia

        And it’s time for Russia to take advantage of these differences and start supporting the Kurds. A good kick will come out for mattresses and Turks.
        1. cniza
          cniza 11 February 2016 11: 23
          +5
          Let them dog, if this is not a game, it hurts Erdogan to behave greyhound.
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 11 February 2016 11: 29
            +1
            So maybe then, and not terrorists live in the Donbass?
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            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 11 February 2016 12: 15
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              On the one hand, the US position on Turkish Kurds is already something BRIGHT, so to speak, in the spirit of true democracy and against Erdogan’s religious fascism.
              And on the other hand, if this point of view of the USA is really recognized, it turns out that Erdogan, with his cleansing military operations against the Turkish Kurds, drove Turkey itself, most likely, to territorial dismemberment. The only possible measure to regulate relations between the Turkish Kurds and the Turkish authorities could be the RESIGNATION or the physical removal of Erdogan and his Co. from power in Turkey. But the Kurds, now taught by their historical bitter experience of living in Turkey and the constant struggle with the Turkish authorities, can insist on their secession from Turkey.
              It turns out here is a political forecast for Turkey and Erdogan.
          2. Baikonur
            Baikonur 11 February 2016 11: 30
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            Let them dog, if this is not a game, it hurts Erdogan to behave greyhound.
            It seems that the US Shakalov Erdognil begins to enrage no less than the parashenka! It also can’t cope with the situation and is only gulping against Russia! Both support and cover DEMAND! And they expect more reckless independent actions from them! The real harm to Russia! (then - drain!)
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 11 February 2016 12: 04
              +4
              Quote: Baikonur
              It seems that the US Shakalov Erdognil begins to enrage no less than parashy!

              ... not only ... pay attention ... the Great Turkic Erdogan Pasha ... already managed to quarrel with everyone
              - with Europe about money and refugees
              - with mattresses because of Kurds
              - with Russia from over Syria
              ... what conclusion follows? ... definitely raking ... hi
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        3. milann
          milann 11 February 2016 11: 27
          +7
          Quote: vovanpain

          And it’s time for Russia to take advantage of these differences and start supporting the Kurds.

          This is exactly what is being done.
          "Representative office of Syrian Kurdistan opened in Moscow on Wednesday."
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          2. RUSS
            RUSS 11 February 2016 11: 28
            +1
            Quote: milann
            This is exactly what is being done. "Representation of the Syrian Kurdistan opened in Moscow on Wednesday

            They wrote me a minute earlier ... laughing
            1. milann
              milann 11 February 2016 11: 47
              +1
              Quote: RUSS
              They wrote me a minute earlier ...

              drinks
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        5. RUSS
          RUSS 11 February 2016 11: 28
          +2
          Quote: vovanpain
          And it’s time for Russia to take advantage of these differences and start supporting the Kurds.

          Representative office of Syrian (Western) Kurdistan opened in Moscow. Farkhat Patiyev, head of the Kurdish Federal National Cultural Autonomy Council of Russia, said that the office will fulfill two main tasks: representing the interests of the region in the course of interaction with Russian politicians, diplomats and public figures, as well as protecting the interests of the Kurds in Syria and Russia. According to Patiev, about 250 thousand Kurds live on Russian territory
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 11 February 2016 11: 32
            +1
            Quote: RUSS
            A representative office of Syrian (Western) Kurdistan was opened in Moscow.

            And now we have to wait from the USA, in spite of us, playing along to Erdogan.
        6. Vend
          Vend 11 February 2016 11: 36
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          Quote: Wend
          Yes, with any choice, it’s better for Russia

          And it’s time for Russia to take advantage of these differences and start supporting the Kurds. A good kick will come out for mattresses and Turks.

          Already taken advantage of. Kurdish representative office opened in Moscow
        7. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 February 2016 11: 43
          +7
          Quote: vovanpain
          A good kick will come out for mattresses and Turks.

          The kick is good. American pigs in their repertoire.
          MOSCOW, Feb 11 - RIA News. US attack aircraft staged a bombing on Wednesday in the Syrian city of Aleppo, which they then accused Russia of, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said Thursday.

          RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160211/1372793019.html#ixzz3zqa7Nryw
          1. soldat74
            soldat74 11 February 2016 12: 07
            -4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            MOSCOW, Feb 11 - RIA News. US attack aircraft staged a bombing on Wednesday in the Syrian city of Aleppo, which they then accused Russia of, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said Thursday.

            And what, our s-400 will not reach Aleppa? Shoot down nafig, and if possible intercept the pilots, Yes, drag to a universal court. Well, let them do it later, We bombed it or not We!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 11 February 2016 12: 09
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              Quote: soldat74

              And what, our s-400 will not reach Aleppa? Knock down

              Are you ready for a war with the USA?
              1. soldat74
                soldat74 11 February 2016 15: 27
                -1
                And you? You can arrange a whole controversial debate on this topic. And I believe that there will be many opinions, both for and against. But why not show the sshaks that it is not so simple as they think about their behavior in the world.
              2. Mikhail Krapivin
                Mikhail Krapivin 11 February 2016 15: 33
                0
                I’m wild, explain to me the felt boots - for example, we began to butt with the Americans, pissing. The troops that they have in Europe are clearly not enough for this, and NATO will not help them much - the main fighting force is still the United States. That is, without reinforcing the chances against us, they do not have much. And what prevents us from figuring out their reinforcements that floats from the States with the same nuclear weapons? In any case, in the middle of the ocean there will be no such terrible harm to the environment, after two or three convoys destroyed, they will begin to think whether to send a fourth. A global nuclear war is unlikely to start; they want to live no less than ours. What do you say, colleagues? And do not hit hard, I am the only way, in the order of a warm-up for the mind!
          2. kapitan92
            kapitan92 11 February 2016 13: 18
            +4
            “As promised to our American partners, we will not hide information. Yesterday, at 13.55 Moscow time, from the territory of Turkey, two US Air Force attack aircraft attacked the Syrian sky with the shortest course directly to Aleppo and worked out for the objects in the city in full. For some reason, Colonel Warren did not advertise this flight in a direct and, by the way, in a figurative sense, too, ”RIA Novosti quoted Konashenkov as saying.
        8. vladimirw
          vladimirw 11 February 2016 12: 12
          0
          some Kurds are already on the side of the mattresses. It's complicated
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 11 February 2016 11: 27
        +8
        Turkey has in the past expressed concern about ties (Kurdish self-defense) with the PKK. - summed up Toner.

        The Turks are fully cooperating with ISIS and express concern only to Russia and Iran, and these minke whales:
        We don’t see such a connection, that’s all, ”Toner concluded.

        request hi
    2. Lyton
      Lyton 11 February 2016 12: 03
      0
      In what, it turns out that there is no agreement in the comrades.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 11 February 2016 13: 09
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        State Department: Disagreements with Ankara on the Kurdish Question Remain
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        As a labeled bear liked to say: our task is to aggravate and kill these dissent.
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    4. Altona
      Altona 11 February 2016 13: 42
      +1
      Quote: izya top
      why, the exceptional ones have not yet made a choice?

      ------------------
      In any conflict, the United States supports both parties so as not to end the confrontation and diversion of resources.
  2. Samen
    Samen 11 February 2016 11: 21
    0
    “We do not agree with this”

    "I can't accept this!" (C)
    And who would doubt it! The guys in the sandbox, now they will long, pull each other, pull the bucket ...))))
    And, Turks and Kurds, will drag each other by the hair, proving each other "which of them is a beloved wife" ...
    We are satisfied! laughing
  3. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 11 February 2016 11: 24
    0
    Turks are so overwhelmed that they don’t agree with either Russians or Americans. They won’t last too long.
  4. Bacha
    Bacha 11 February 2016 11: 30
    0
    A game for the audience of two countries, so they say look, we, unlike these Russians, understand what a moderate opposition is!
  5. Gray 43
    Gray 43 11 February 2016 11: 35
    0
    Can mattresses against the Turks also impose sanctions?
  6. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 11 February 2016 11: 35
    0
    Earlier Erdogan could "trump" - Either in my opinion, or with Putin I will be friends, but now everything is a Bitmap. Apparently, he had not yet realized that he was JUST.
  7. Bacha
    Bacha 11 February 2016 11: 40
    0
    Quote: Yugan Oleg
    Earlier Erdogan could "trump" - Either in my opinion, or with Putin I will be friends, but now everything is a Bitmap. Apparently, he had not yet realized that he was JUST.

    It’s good if it’s junk, but what if it’s a bell’s case?
  8. Diviz
    Diviz 11 February 2016 11: 43
    0
    They are already bombing the Americans on the drum. It is necessary to introduce a no-fly zone there.
  9. barclay
    barclay 11 February 2016 11: 45
    -1
    “The SNA is the same terrorists as the PKK, and their support is tantamount to supporting terrorists,” he said.
    At the same time, his impudent erysipelas trades in IGilovsky oil and not only.
  10. triglav
    triglav 11 February 2016 11: 49
    0
    Erdogan jumped. Politics need to be more perspicacious. And so they will soon throw it off.
  11. kepmor
    kepmor 11 February 2016 11: 50
    +2
    I think that everything is much more prosaic.
    Amerikosy are not idiots, they have a booty sense that Assad will arrange and give Syrian Kurds full autonomy (the desire of the Kremlin is 100%). And this is a good precedent for the Turkish Kurds (about 22 million) for a general uprising and separation from Erdogan! And there, the Iraqi Kurds joined them - there you have the Great Kurdistan, with 40 million people and huge oil and gas fields! Will the Americans remain aloof in this situation? Yes, never!
    And Erdogan for them waste material ... written off!
  12. kapitan92
    kapitan92 11 February 2016 11: 53
    +4
    Kurds in Syria, which make up about 10% of the country's population, have so far taken a neutral position in opposing the Syrian opposition against the Ba'athist regime of B. Assad. At the same time, they do not represent a consolidated movement, but constitute a conglomerate of political parties and blocs. The political organizations of the Syrian Kurds are divided on many issues, including the issue of foreign intervention. The Kurdish National Congress (KNK), the Syrian National Council (SNA), the Kurdish National Council (KNS), the Union of Kurdish Democratic Forces (SKDS), the Democratic Union Party (PDS). There is no general agreement between these blocs and other Kurdish political forces. Some of them are influenced by Iraq, others by Turkey, and still others are like-minded Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) led by A. Ocalan.
    Relations between Kurdish organizations in Syria remain mixed. For example, the Kurdish movement of the future is sharply opposed to the Party of Democratic Union (PDS), which since 2010 has been a branch of the PKK. The PDS has put forward a project of “democratic autonomy”. She rejects the model of federalism, confederation, self-government or national autonomy. Its goal is to create a new Kurdish society, a society of free people with free expression and actions. PDS with distrust refers to the SNA. She believes that this block is allegedly under the auspices of Turkey and has certain agreements with it. The area of ​​compact residence of the Kurds of Syria, conditionally referred to as Syrian (Western) Kurdistan, is directly adjacent to the border of Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan. Therefore, his neighbors have no accidental interest in the events unfolding there.

    The lack of unity of political organizations of the Syrian Kurds is enjoyed by the forces of the Syrian opposition and their foreign partners interested in overthrowing the B. Assad regime.
    So it’s clear that nothing is clear! The ball is still that. It is unclear whether the Syrian Kurds will achieve recognition and national rights in the course of the development of the situation in the country.
  13. kare
    kare 11 February 2016 12: 22
    +1
    Major General of the United States Air Force, precipitated. Probably after he announced the costs of the F-35
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 11 February 2016 15: 35
      +1
      Tiny ... I imagined the terrible Putin who eats Americans for breakfast without salt - and sommel. Impressive they are very :)
  14. syndicalist
    syndicalist 11 February 2016 13: 48
    0
    Now the same clustering process is going on: "Who is for whom?", As in 37-41 years of the last century. Before Turkey the choice: "ISIS or NATO?", And before NATO: "Turkey or the Kurds?"