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NI about the breakthrough technology of the Russian defense industry

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Russian defense industry enterprises began to use 3D printing technology in the production of components for tank T-14 Armata and other vehicles manufactured by Uralvagonzavod RIA News An article published in The National Interest.




“3D printing speeds up pilot production. Using the 3D printer allows you to quickly make a prototype of parts made from computer-aided design models, ”quotes the journal head of the laboratory of rapid prototyping NPO Electromashina Anton Ulrich.

“Implementing 3D printing will help save time and resources in production,” said a developer representative. - No need to sharpen the part to get a sample, and then, realizing that the collection does not occur, re-start production. No need to waste metal. ”

Moreover, according to the publication, “it will be possible to manufacture not only individual parts, but also a whole set for assembling tanks of the Armata platform”.

“In the near future, Electromashina, which is part of the Uralvagonzavod corporation (the manufacturer of Armaty), plans to begin production of titanium parts printed with a length of several meters printed on an 3D printer,” adds NI.

In the meantime, according to the publication, “parts made in this way will serve as prototypes — some materials allow you to send them to the assembly immediately after 3D printing, but in the defense industry the requirements for such parts are more stringent.”

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  1. Monos
    Monos 10 February 2016 17: 29
    14
    What can we build a house?
    We draw - we will live.

    smile
    1. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 10 February 2016 17: 37
      +3
      The question is about backfill, whose production is 3D printers? He studied once as a CNC operator, today at UVZ there is not one modern machine with PU, there are no Russian-made machines. Moreover, Japanese machine tools have built-in software protection that distinguishes military products from civilian products, and they will not do a military commissariat without serious flashing, but there are no such software specialists at the factory.
      1. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
        ℳy ℒiƒℯ 10 February 2016 17: 39
        57
        The question is about backfill, whose production is 3D printers?

        Sitting in the new Lada Vesta, the Prime Minister sets the route to Skolkovo on the Elbrus tablet using GLONAS. Moscow, our days.
        1. Vladimyrych
          Vladimyrych 10 February 2016 17: 41
          +1
          ℳy ℒiƒℯ Bravo! laughing
          1. Urals
            Urals 10 February 2016 17: 45
            -40 qualifying.
            Our pilot after the Order .. Fulfilled the task returns to base! (Medvedev examines ..))))
            1. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
              ℳy ℒiƒℯ 10 February 2016 17: 57
              33
              Yeah. Only in the photo F / A-18 laughing
              1. Black Colonel
                Black Colonel 10 February 2016 18: 06
                38
                Well, sho do it. The victims of the exam are only multiplying. Unfortunately... request
              2. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 10 February 2016 18: 37
                +9
                Quote: ℳy ℒiƒℯ
                Yeah. Only in the photo F / A-18 laughing


                Trophy, probably. laughing
              3. gunter_laux
                gunter_laux 10 February 2016 18: 39
                -4
                All right. Only couch generals and the same marshals
                unmeasured. An-2 and An-12 are of the same type. Well, An-124 to the heap. Sorry if I offended anyone.
                1. gunter_laux
                  gunter_laux 10 February 2016 19: 25
                  +2
                  What, offended some comrades? The whole service is in aviation, and if I wrote about the uniformity of these aircraft - be friends with brains! I am not discussing artillery, tanks and other equipment that I am not familiar with. "An-2 and An-12 are of the same type." This is a response to the bad picture of the F-16. If a person does not understand aircraft technology, why comment?
              4. Tusv
                Tusv 10 February 2016 19: 11
                +1
                Quote: y ℒiƒℯ
                Yeah. Only in the photo F / A-18

                "When Cornet decided to marry and take the dowry of a million. Wow .. Pardon."
                From Hornet in this "art" only the characteristic vertical plumage. Eagle face muzzle (F-15). The lines at the feselage speak of the variable geometry of the wing - Cat named Tom (f-14) And the wing itself is from our Sushka.
                "But the fact is that there are no empty seats in the stagecoach."
                1. Reserve buildbat
                  Reserve buildbat 10 February 2016 20: 22
                  +4
                  In the photo - the purest water F / A-18С. Single, long decommissioned
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 10 February 2016 20: 28
                    0
                    Quote: stock buildbat
                    In the photo - the purest water F / A-18С. Single, long decommissioned

                    The purest belly has, therefore, fighting game fraction of attacks. But who is the main pepelats with aircraft carriers written off? According to my data, there is no alternative to Cornet yet.
                    1. Reserve buildbat
                      Reserve buildbat 13 February 2016 10: 07
                      +2
                      But do F / A-18A, B, C still serve? They all seem to have changed to E and F, which are superhornets.
              5. Furious bambr
                Furious bambr 11 February 2016 01: 07
                -1
                As always, US AIR FORSE messed up the goal smile
                1. oblako
                  oblako 11 February 2016 06: 40
                  -1
                  Friendly fire ... yeah ...
              6. oblako
                oblako 11 February 2016 06: 39
                -1
                Bullshit, our pilot ... on the trophy ...
            2. Alexander_
              Alexander_ 10 February 2016 19: 20
              -1
              Air defense sleeps sweetly.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 10 February 2016 19: 33
                +2
                Quote: Alexander_
                Air defense sleeps sweetly

                Really. They sleep and see someone land. Well, at least for a micronish, well, fly in.
                But they have everything like people. Farther from our air defense and closer to your airfield.
            3. PSih2097
              PSih2097 10 February 2016 19: 49
              14
              Quote: Ural
              Our pilot after the Order .. Fulfilled the task returns to base! (Medvedev examines ..))))

              then somewhere like that ...
            4. Denis Skiff
              Denis Skiff 13 February 2016 16: 22
              0
              sarcasm to sarcasm
        2. Alexez
          Alexez 10 February 2016 17: 56
          +3
          And what about Elbrus's label in the form of a stub?
          1. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
            ℳy ℒiƒℯ 10 February 2016 17: 59
            11
            And what about Elbrus's label in the form of a stub?


            Because it's sarcasm lol
        3. Hooks
          Hooks 10 February 2016 19: 38
          +2
          IPhone-doo ...
        4. Letun
          Letun 10 February 2016 19: 58
          +4
          Quote: y ℒiƒℯ
          The question is about backfill, whose production is 3D printers?

          Sitting in the new Lada Vesta, the Prime Minister sets the route to Skolkovo on the Elbrus tablet using GLONAS. Moscow, our days.

          But you didn’t answer whose equipment the Lada Vesta and the Elbrus tablet are made on ... And, unfortunately, they do not do industrial 3D printers in Russia. Something like that.
        5. xavbek7
          xavbek7 10 February 2016 20: 28
          0
          But why are there so many pluses in the negatives? il are you all for him?
        6. Ziksura
          Ziksura 10 February 2016 21: 39
          +2
          Quote: ℳy ℒiƒℯ
          Sitting in the new Lada Vesta, the Prime Minister asks on the tablet

          ...... etc. etc. Yes, give me at least 300 minuses, but GOT all sorts of ..... with photoshop (and in the photo it is the creation of Photoshop - will we argue?), and swamp-white ribbon trolling on the topic of "iPhone". LADY uses gadgets from at least 4 manufacturers, incl. and Russian. I have a lot of other complaints about him. And not the level "I want a bibik like him and an iPhone with Aypad !!!!! A-ah-ah !!!!!!" Well, at the end, a couple of words "for the people", they say, like I'm not because of having an ideological one. Ugh!!!! Disgusting !!!!
          S.P. And you British: continue in the same vein, soon you will become the Generalisimus, criticism is now in trend hi
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      2. Darkoff
        Darkoff 10 February 2016 18: 01
        11
        Quote: INVESTOR
        The question is about backfill, whose production is 3D printers? He studied once as a CNC operator, today at UVZ there is not one modern machine with PU, there are no Russian-made machines. Moreover, Japanese machine tools have built-in software protection that distinguishes military products from civilian products, and they will not do a military commissariat without serious flashing, but there are no such software specialists at the factory.

        You’ve written complete nonsense, comrade.
        At UVZ, at least, SASTA and Sterlitamak are present.
        About the recognizing purpose of software procurement is just a sick fantasy. In some Japanese machines, a GPS beacon is sewn up with the help of which the control of the machine is blocked when it is unauthorized moving from the original installation site. This is precisely what is being done so that they would not be able to drag such a machine into the defense industry.
      3. Linkor9s21
        Linkor9s21 10 February 2016 18: 01
        0
        Engine power 1800 hp ????
      4. Simon
        Simon 10 February 2016 18: 26
        +1
        Well, really! Craftsmen in Russia were not translated! request tongue
      5. AFG-X
        AFG-X 10 February 2016 19: 19
        +2
        I strongly doubt that 3D printers are domestic. Russia is still a modern CNC machining machine just started to produce, and then from imported components. Up to 3D printers that print for metal are still far away.
        And the tank is really handsome. good
        1. Roman 57 rus
          Roman 57 rus 10 February 2016 21: 03
          0
          3D printers are, the method of selective laser sintering.
      6. quote
        quote 10 February 2016 19: 19
        +6
        Quote: INVESTOR
        Moreover, Japanese machines have built-in protection that distinguishes military products from civilian

        What is the level of "trolling (or a joke)"? Imagine at least one "parameter" (difference). I had to listen to a lot of things in my life, but this is a "pearl".
      7. Maxom75
        Maxom75 10 February 2016 19: 30
        +3
        The joy of our liberals was that in the 90s they practically destroyed machine-tool building in Russia. Now we are killing about the lack of our machine tool production.
      8. xavbek7
        xavbek7 10 February 2016 20: 27
        +2
        what's the difference whose printers, when our media gives their info ... we don’t have a fucker other than the heroism of a simple peasant.
      9. Samurai3X
        Samurai3X 10 February 2016 21: 53
        0
        Grammar and sentence construction also once taught?
        And the tanks that are rolled out of the factory, the workers give birth in a natural way?
        PS I’ll open 4 open secret in 5 minutes of search
        Creating a printer in the Voronezh region
        http://promvest.info/ru/innovatsii/-3d-printer-s-dvumya-ekstruderami-sozdali-v-v


        oronejskoy-oblasti /
        Printed on our printer Authority
        http://tass.ru/nauka/2650236
        Printing on printers of new types of ceramics
        http://www.strf.ru/material.aspx?CatalogId=222&d_no=114257#.VrDmOU-E4c0

        Implant Printing
        http://ria.ru/science/20151221/1346085888.html
      10. Locksmith
        Locksmith 11 February 2016 09: 08
        +1
        Quote: INVESTOR
        Moreover, Japanese machines have protection built into the software that distinguishes military products from civilian products, and they won’t do military work without serious flashing

        what nonsense? I serve the Japanese "Kitamura" -but this is the first time I hear such crap, and how will he understand that these are military products ??? !! recourse
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    3. Uran
      Uran 10 February 2016 18: 09
      +2
      and the design is very beautiful tank.
    4. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 10 February 2016 18: 22
      0
      “The introduction of 3D printing will help save time and resources in production,” said the representative of the developer. - You do not need to sharpen the part to get a sample, and then, realizing that collection does not occur, restart production. No need to waste metal ”


      "No need to waste metal." That is, as I understand it, they make samples from plastic? And before that, a plastic part was sharpened on the machine?
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 10 February 2016 20: 42
        -1
        Quote: Dmitry Toderese
        That is, as I understand it, do plastic samples? And before that, the plastic part was ground on the machine?

        Let it be known that during 3D printing exactly as much metal is spent as is needed for a part, and at a point a part of the metal somehow goes to the chips ...

        It is clearly written at the end of the article:
        “In the near future, Electromashina, part of the Uralvagonzavod corporation (manufacturer of Armata), plans to start production of printed on a 3D printer titanium parts several meters long "
  2. Michael67
    Michael67 10 February 2016 17: 30
    +1
    Let the "partners" shake with anger. Before new developments, they need to cut another 2-3 lard.
    1. Gorodovik
      Gorodovik 10 February 2016 21: 19
      +1
      As I understand it, you're talking about a rotting west. But unfortunately, 3D printing technologies come from there. Five years ago, these breakthrough technologies began to appear actively. Therefore, the news for me, although joyful, is still loudly said about breakthrough technologies.
  3. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 10 February 2016 17: 30
    +8
    I wonder how much this will accelerate the production of serial tanks? So fitting prototypes is not easy. And with 3D it should be faster and, theoretically, more accurate. But how much?
  4. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 10 February 2016 17: 37
    +5
    I wonder whose printers ...
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 10 February 2016 17: 40
      +3
      Yeah ... That's the question ... I want to believe that everything is ours, Russian.
      1. Simon
        Simon 10 February 2016 18: 31
        -3
        And you, as you thought, that we are ignoramuses? This is only Europe and America thinks so! No. tongue
    2. Lator kron
      Lator kron 10 February 2016 17: 47
      21
      Whose printers do not matter, the main thing is how to use them.
      Mendeleev opened the periodic table, so what? whose table should I ask?
      Or fire, wheel, writing, paper, gunpowder, radio, telegraph, telephone, car, light bulb, antibiotics, the ship also needs to be asked who opened it all and whose hands it was?
      Or not use the law of leverage of Archimedes just because it is Greek and not Russian? wow))
      That way we will not go far trying to use only what we invented and produce.
      And "overseas friends" do not hesitate to use the "brain drain" from other countries. It is thanks to this migration that a lot of things have gone to mass production. And this is partly good (the bad thing is that the country in which the inventor was born cannot provide him with functionality for the development of his own progressive ideas)
      1. cap
        cap 10 February 2016 18: 17
        +9
        Quote: Lator Kron
        And "overseas friends" do not hesitate to use the "brain drain" from other countries. It is thanks to this migration that a lot of things have gone to mass production. And this is partly good (the bad thing is that the country in which the inventor was born cannot provide him with functionality for the development of his own progressive ideas)
        waspwasp


        A printer created in the process of evolution. 3 in 1-house, pantry, children. laughingWasp. Russian. Our patent!
      2. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 11 February 2016 10: 52
        0
        Quote: Lator Kron
        Whose printers do not matter, the main thing is how to use them.
        Mendeleev opened the periodic table, so what? whose table should I ask?
        - let's not dig until the Big Bang! This question arose because we are now under sanctions, and cooperation with us, especially in the military sphere, is prohibited! They will prohibit the supply of components to our country and that’s all - it will be necessary to establish the turning production of parts! And this is not 1 day or even a week ... We must already learn to look beyond your nose! hi
    3. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus 10 February 2016 21: 07
      +1
      Domestic printers, German "heads".
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 10 February 2016 17: 37
    +3
    Who argues, mighty. If only faster and more.
  6. activator
    activator 10 February 2016 17: 39
    +1
    In the figure of the section of the armata in the tower, these are vertical cylinders, this is ammunition; if so, then it turns out that it is so often criticized on t 64.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 10 February 2016 17: 56
      +2
      Quote: activator
      In the figure of the section of the armata in the tower, these are vertical cylinders

      Just the same, all artists from American courts went through the section of Almaty to draw. Well, it’s easy. According to comics, Armata American super hiro slurp for breakfast
    2. Gorodovik
      Gorodovik 10 February 2016 21: 22
      -1
      But in T64, the ammunition was next to the man. And now for the partition. Therefore, it is better. more precisely safer
  7. hartlend
    hartlend 10 February 2016 17: 44
    +1
    It may be easier to obtain reliable information immediately in Russian, rather than not provide a double translation from an English language publication. I hardly understand what is at stake. Either these are distortions from double translation, or modern managers who are terribly far from mechanical engineering are so stupidly expressed.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 10 February 2016 18: 00
      0
      I also half, did not understand, to be honest ...
    2. doework
      doework 10 February 2016 18: 08
      +2
      It will not work to enjoy the content of the "material", the translation obviously disappoints. Although - not a great loss: articles from NI - do not shine with quality, this is a reflection of the opinion of their editorial board, which coincides with the main political vector. What they order is what they write. And the essence of the article is that at the stages of developing layout solutions, prototyping and prototyping, you can use not future materials, but substitutes (printed on this 3D printer), which significantly reduces the duration of these stages. This is already widely used in the world mechanical engineering. The printers are obviously imported. And the real average level of machine, machine tool, aircraft, instrumentation -, .. - of the building, each of us knows firsthand. Let's hope that the "Armata" program will not become the last breath of breath for the bureaucrats robbed by their bureaucrats and besieged along the borders of the country ..., but, on the contrary, will become a locomotive for related industries and a forge of personnel.
  8. Alexez
    Alexez 10 February 2016 17: 52
    +2
    3D printing is a high-tech thing. First you need to build workshops with the necessary equipment, train people, work out the technology ... But then, of course, it will go faster)) For how much - well, let's figure it out. Traditionally, to make a part necessary, cast a blank, calibrate the machine, prepare the cutters to start processing, etc. then additional processing, grinding, drilling, milling, then quality control at each stage + they themselves take a lot of time, etc. For 3-D printing, load the powder, prepare (for clean powder materials pump out air and fill with special gas) a chamber, fill these parts into the machine, wait ... after completion we take out the finished part. Faster by an order. Add the absence of waste during processing and the almost zero chance of marriage - even more economical.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 February 2016 18: 29
      +6
      "Faster by an order of magnitude" ////

      About speed just not sure. 3-D allows the manufacture of metal (or plastic, rubber)
      with the highest accuracy, details of increased complexity, all sorts of asymmetric with complex bends, recesses, voids, etc. For example, nozzles of rockets.
      The process is accurate but slow: each layer is a millimeter or fractions of a millimeter.

      In principle, 3-D is a revolution in production technology, an unprecedented breakthrough after 500-700 years
      traditional grinding of blanks-blanks for its drilling and milling.
      But the method (for financial payback) is not suitable for any production.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 10 February 2016 20: 44
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        But the method (for financial payback) is not suitable for any production.

        So far, since a dozen years of improving 3D printers, technology has become cheaper and the process will accelerate greatly.
      2. Alexez
        Alexez 11 February 2016 08: 36
        +1
        But not sure. If you compare the entire chain of manufacturing parts from blanks to the final result, and this chain includes (well, if it's not stamping) a lot of all those processes that are not even happening in one workshop, then 3D printing will be faster. + as you aptly noticed, more precisely, the level of complexity of products is completely different!
        1. alexqazw
          alexqazw 11 February 2016 13: 17
          0
          the level of complexity of 3D printing products is really "completely different" - it is much lower than that of a turning-milling machine, because it does not give cleanliness yet. Accuracy, too, from what fright is suddenly higher, if microns are caught with a lathe, and a micron printer will give?
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgQvqVq-SQU#t=129
          Look at your accuracy with a file
  9. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 10 February 2016 17: 53
    +6
    in this case, the 3D printer is a patch for the brains of the detail builder (the one who did the detailing of the assembly unit) or of his low academic performance at the university
    it's like in a joke:
    the rocket fell over a hill - and maybe we can restart
  10. prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 10 February 2016 17: 58
    +1
    Das ist fiction! Noh Ain Mal!
    1. gunter_laux
      gunter_laux 10 February 2016 19: 06
      0
      Well, I can do that! The language is native!
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  12. Bort radist
    Bort radist 10 February 2016 18: 05
    +3
    Well, that's good, but if all the parts for printing will have a "numerical image" to save the data, in our time, it will be very difficult. Where is the guarantee that in parallel and at the same time the parts will begin to be printed in China.
    1. Gorodovik
      Gorodovik 10 February 2016 21: 29
      +1
      You are missing one point. Almost everything is now being designed on a computer. And even in our country. And what was designed on kulmans is translated into an electronic image.
      The Boeing 787 was fully engineered and not stamped in China. So there is nothing to fear. This is normal world practice.
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 February 2016 18: 09
    +2
    The frontal armor of the tower is really as thin as
    on the picture? When breaking through the forehead of the tower, the crew will not suffer -
    that's really good, but the weapon will fail, that "nicht gut" ..
    1. quote
      quote 10 February 2016 19: 27
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The frontal armor of the tower is really as thin as
      on the picture? When breaking through the forehead of the tower, the crew will not suffer -
      that's really good, but the weapon will fail, that "nicht gut" ..

      Who will draw the truth to you. Where is the intrigue?
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 10 February 2016 20: 46
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The frontal armor of the tower is really so thin

      This is most likely just the imaginations of the artists. It is highly unlikely that this entire "stealth" casing on the armata tower is generally armored, most likely under it the tower has a different configuration.
      1. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 11 February 2016 05: 52
        +1
        Totally agree with you.
    3. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 10 February 2016 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Is the turret frontal armor really as thin as shown? If the forehead of the turret is broken through, the crew will not suffer - this is really good, but the weapon will fail, which is "nicht gut" ..

      Full booking there is unnecessary. What is the point of packing uninhabited space in armor? It’s an extra tens of tons. It seems that it was made according to the type of attack aircraft booking, only important components and assemblies are protected.
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    5. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 10 February 2016 23: 16
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Is the turret frontal armor really as thin as shown? If the forehead of the turret is broken through, the crew will not suffer - this is really good, but the weapon will fail, which is "nicht gut" ..

      Drawing is an approximate image. Therefore, only when the characteristics are known, then we will judge.
      Second: Russian tanks have both dynamic and active defenses, and soon there will be electronic warfare systems.
      Third: without these defenses, modern anti-tank missiles burn through more than a meter of armor. What tower do you think should be?
      The ultra-modern Abrams are burning from the Russian Cornets. And the addition of uranium to the armor to reduce penetration does not save. They burn, only fire with a multi-meter column of hatches.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 February 2016 09: 28
        +2
        for Aleksey_K:

        Export and licensed Abrams go WITHOUT uranium plates in the frontal
        armor. The plates can be inserted into the sandwich and removed.

        For all that, Cornet is an excellent ATGM. fellow
    6. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 11 February 2016 10: 57
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The frontal armor of the tower is really as thin as
      on the picture? When breaking through the forehead of the tower, the crew will not suffer -
      that's really good, but the weapon will fail, that "nicht gut" ..
      - firstly - nobody knows anything about Armata before such details! Secondly - we do not overload the tanks with a thick layer of armor - we use dynamic and active defenses. hi
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 10 February 2016 18: 09
    +4
    I will express my opinion about this news. Sometimes it seems to me that newspapers give non-existent functions to newspapers. It seems that tomorrow all the shops will cut metal, the tanks will go entirely from the 3D printer, and at once with the crew. This is definitely a breakthrough, but here on this technology has such hopes ............
    1. cap
      cap 10 February 2016 18: 31
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      I will express my opinion about this news. Sometimes it seems to me that newspapers give non-existent functions to newspapers. It seems that tomorrow all the shops will cut metal, the tanks will go entirely from the 3D printer, and at once with the crew. This is definitely a breakthrough, but here on this technology has such hopes ............


      I suspect another PR in the style of star wars.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 10 February 2016 20: 48
        +1
        Quote: cap
        I suspect another PR in the style of star wars.

        In vain - specialized 3D printers already print natural human bones and teeth (to replace lost ones), the cost is still higher than skyscrapers in Dubai, but this technology has a future, not tomorrow, of course, but after tomorrow for sure)))))
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 10 February 2016 21: 37
          +1
          Quote: Albert1988
          In vain - specialized 3D printers already print natural human bones and teeth (to replace lost ones), the cost is still higher than skyscrapers in Dubai, but this technology has a future, not tomorrow, of course, but after tomorrow for sure)))))

          You just remember how cellular communication began, so until the time when it became available to every student, about 20 years have passed
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 10 February 2016 21: 46
            +2
            Quote: APASUS
            You just remember how cellular communication began, so until the time when it became available to every student, about 20 years have passed

            Cellular symbol of affluence - everyone will get it
          2. Albert1988
            Albert1988 11 February 2016 19: 41
            0
            Quote: APASUS
            You just remember how cellular communication began, so until the time when it became available to every student, about 20 years have passed

            and the first awkward 3D printers appeared 10 years ago, so 10 more years ago and they will go into production en masse.
    2. Alexez
      Alexez 11 February 2016 08: 51
      0
      You don’t even know how great expectations are! How do you like multi-material printing? Or 3D printing in zero gravity ... Imagine orbital factories for the production of all that hotz and the New Vasyuki cosmodrome in addition)))
  15. russmensch
    russmensch 10 February 2016 18: 09
    +2
    I suggest everyone to buy a 3-d printer and assemble Armata according to the above drawings. Each family in Armata !!! fellow drinks
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  17. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 10 February 2016 18: 11
    -1
    "You don't need to sharpen a part to get a sample ..."
    Is this a 3D printer in metal that can catch a thousandth or hundredth mm? Complete nonsense! fool
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 February 2016 22: 05
      +2
      Hundredths of a millimeter were taught to catch them the day before yesterday, and now they are already catching microns.
      1. alexqazw
        alexqazw 11 February 2016 13: 46
        0
        absolutely everywhere the lathe will not replace, do not rub here like a panacea.
  18. triglav
    triglav 10 February 2016 18: 19
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    But the tank is good! If everything is true by TTX, then the Americans and the Europeans have nothing to catch.
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 10 February 2016 18: 22
    +1
    /
    Quote: Michael67
    Yeah ... That's the question ... I want to believe that everything is ours, Russian.


    100 percent Russian.
    Do not be too lazy to look. Quite unexpectedly for myself, I discovered that the Russian Federation is far from being .... in this direction. God grant. The main thing is to mind so.

    http://3dtoday.ru/blogs/pe4a/made-in-russia-overview-of-domestic-3d-printers
  20. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 10 February 2016 18: 22
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    Quote: ℳy ℒiƒℯ
    Sitting in the new Lada Vesta,

    Yes, it's "Lada-Kalina"! I recognize my brother Vasya! yes
  21. rotor
    rotor 10 February 2016 18: 24
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    It is necessary to massively introduce 3D printing into mass production, then both the time and cost of production will be sharply reduced.

    The economy must be economical.
    1. DMM2006
      DMM2006 10 February 2016 20: 45
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      As for the economy, one can judge simply by the indicated price of a serial car of 250 million rubles, that is, in terms of dollars, it is only $ 3,5 million. For comparison, a serial Abrams costs $ 20 million, and the vaunted impenetrable modification (so that type with "uranium" armor) costs their budget as much as $ 60 million !!!
      So we even broke the record of the T-34, which cost the Soviet budget 60 rubles, while the Fritz T-V "Panther" in terms of Reichsmarks for rubles cost 000 - 250 rubles, and the T-VI "Tiger" modification E, cost as much as 000 rubles. That is, our tank, similar in combat use, cost the treasury 270-000 times cheaper.
      And in the case of "Armata" the savings in relation to a potential enemy is already 17 times !!!
      That is, it turns out that ours for the cost of one tank at pin..dos will build at least 15 of their own (2 then anyway, according to Russian tradition, they will break it before being transferred to the customer).
  22. Fedor Bolts
    Fedor Bolts 10 February 2016 18: 28
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    If let’s talk about Dimin’s Skolkovo’s, then soon the T-34 will have to be removed from the pedestals to protect the homeland. Let your brains print on your 3D printer.
  23. Bumbarash59
    Bumbarash59 10 February 2016 18: 34
    +2
    Quote: INVESTOR
    The question is about backfill, whose production is 3D printers? He studied once as a CNC operator, today at UVZ there is not one modern machine with PU, there are no Russian-made machines. Moreover, Japanese machine tools have built-in software protection that distinguishes military products from civilian products, and they will not do a military commissariat without serious flashing, but there are no such software specialists at the factory.

    It’s interesting when this comrade studied, Now the operators of machine tools with PU and they (machine tools) do not at all distinguish a military commissar from a citizen, and with JPC it’s a myth
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 10 February 2016 21: 18
      +1
      Quote: Bumbarash59
      It’s interesting when this comrade studied, Now the operators of machine tools with PU and they (machine tools) do not at all distinguish a military commissar from a citizen, and with JPC it’s a myth

      Comrade INVESTOR threw a bunch, you know what, into the fan and dumped))))
      I don’t know how at all defense enterprises, but for ours, when another imported "high-tech" machine is bought, then even before the purchase there are some negotiations between our "office" and the manufacturer. After installation, the guys from the "k" department come, bring a truck of equipment with them and for a very long time check all the electronics for bookmarks and what the hell knows what else.
      After all, everyone remembers the textbook case from the 90s, when a GERMAN super machine broke down at a certain frequency at one of the defense enterprises. And for some reason AMERICAN guys came to fix it. After checking the newly created control K, it turned out that the machine recorded all the actions performed on it and merged them into memory, as the memory overflowed the machine got up. The "repairmen" came and poured information for themselves. It turned out that a special tab was installed in production at the request of the CIA. Now they try to prevent this by all methods.
  24. rotor
    rotor 10 February 2016 18: 36
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    Interestingly, 3D printers are used. I hope that domestic.
  25. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 10 February 2016 19: 00
    +1
    Yes sir! You do not know how to relate to such estimates. 3D printers are in full use not only for prototypes; the mass of model equipment is already being done with their help at nano-caliber enterprises in comparison with UVZ. Saving on metal for a prototype or even for a prototype is generally a childish argument. The article is good for wall newspapers, in extreme cases - for factory print runs. Students at the lecture can still be mentioned. Comments on the forum are a hundred times smarter than the note itself! especially in terms of firmware and software in general. I even heard that software using unique bourgeois technology generally accurately sends reports to the developer: what was processed, how and how much. To put printers and OTs in the underground bunker, or what?
    Oh, our printers would be nice! ..
  26. nik1321
    nik1321 10 February 2016 21: 03
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    Interestingly, 3D printers began to be used not so long ago and over time - there is a hope that they will give significant results in speed, accuracy and automation. It is certainly easier when Uncle Vasya pays something for a cheap fee and another 100 people like him will help him - why is there a printer you need to spend money on it (but what about the managers?) and train specialists, but then it will be like with computers - all that remains to catch up with America or the EU. Tell me, what prevents the 3D printer in Russia from producing? Not so much is sophisticated equipment for a country like Russia. You need to invest less money in the Turkish stream, and so on - then you can master 3D printers and a lot of things in production. By the way, there is already a precedent - the manufacture of a car (all parts) using 3D technology .. And all sorts of horror stories With terrible bourgeois software on machines - they can be easily solved, put Russian software, including on computers - again you need to invest money, train specialists .. but how else?
  27. mik6403
    mik6403 10 February 2016 21: 35
    +2
    This is probably a breakthrough technology .... and here I have a question, and is it not related to the introduction of it that the reduction of 2.5 thousand people by workers of this plant is connected? negative
  28. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 10 February 2016 22: 44
    +1
    Having forgotten how to build USUAL machines for the production of USUAL parts, let dust in the eyes of mythical 3D printers ... Who do they want to fool around with? Yourself? God forbid war, these printers FIRST in the trash will be thrown out and will start to cut as in 41m ...
  29. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 10 February 2016 23: 33
    +2
    In tank building 3D printers will not be there for a long time. Armor plates for the hull and turret are much faster and cheaper to do in metallurgical plants using rolling mills and castings. Add:
    The melting point of steel is approximately 1500 degrees. celsius.
    Rolling temperature - 1200 deg. celsius.
    The walls of metallurgical furnaces for such heating of steel are made of special fireclay chamotte brick of meter thickness.
    And the questions associated with the formation of a thick layer of scale on the metal, how to solve them on 3D monster printers?
    This is just fantastic so far.
    1. Alex_T
      Alex_T 11 February 2016 08: 15
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      About 3D printers for metal, there was already an article here http://topwar.ru/35711-pervyy-metallicheskiy-pistolet-napechatannyy-na-3d-printe
      re.html
      There is no scale, because fusion of metal grains with a laser occurs in an inert gas (argon). I have not yet heard about 3D "printing" of titanium parts, a very capricious and chemically active metal, in the air it is immediately covered with a chemically resistant oxide film.
  30. Stoler
    Stoler 10 February 2016 23: 40
    +1
    "ARMATA" !!!! Ads up to X! What is he really like ??
  31. clidon
    clidon 11 February 2016 05: 34
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    Well, given that 3D printers are slowly taking the place of nanotechnology, it’s not surprising. Soon everything will be at least something, but they will do it using 3D printers. )
  32. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 11 February 2016 07: 20
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    Quote: PSih2097
    Quote: Ural
    Our pilot after the Order .. Fulfilled the task returns to base! (Medvedev examines ..))))

    then somewhere like that ...

    Judging by the picture, it seems to me that from TU 160 an explosion would have occurred kilometers so commercials for 4000 or more) It is not supposed for him to fly close with the enemy!
  33. Engineer
    Engineer 11 February 2016 08: 24
    +1
    It remains only to clarify who is the manufacturer of these industrial 3d printers and materials for them. Because I have big doubts that this is all ours, but you yourself know how supply of consumables and the whole seal in vain can stop at one moment.
  34. Poppy
    Poppy 11 February 2016 10: 21
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    3D printers are great, of course, but I am worried about the events at UralMashZavod and KurganMashZavod - the first cuts workers and turns off completely, and the second is going to go bankrupt
    And who will do the tanks and BMP ??????