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What problems can the new head of the GRU solve?

Lieutenant-General Igor Korobov became the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate. He replaced Colonel General Igor Sergun in this post, who passed away on January 3 from acute heart failure. February 2 The new head of the GRU received a personal standard from the hands of Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu.

Until the last appointment, Igor Korobov held the position of first deputy chief of the GRU and was responsible for strategic intelligence. Immediately after the death of General Sergun, Korobov was the main, if not the only candidate for the post of head of the administration.

Main strike controlIt is worth noting that the appointment of Lieutenant General Igor Korobov continued the tradition that had taken shape since the end of 90: the Deputy Chiefs, who had previously headed strategic intelligence, became the heads of the GRU. In particular, the “strategists” at one time were the predecessors of the current head of military intelligence — Alexander Shlyakhturov and Igor Sergun, who died suddenly.

Despite the fact that the official biography of Lieutenant General Igor Korobov has not yet been disclosed, it is known that in 1973 he entered the Stavropol Higher Military aviation Air Defense College, which he graduated in 1977 with honors. After graduation, Lieutenant Korobov was sent for further service to the 518th Aviation Berlin Order of the Suvorov Regiment (Talagi airfield, Arkhangelsk) of the 10th separate Red Banner Air Defense Army, equipped at that time with Tu-128S-4 long-range barrage fighter-interceptors. But already in 1981, the fighter pilot was admitted to the Military Diplomatic Academy (Academy of the Soviet Army). In official photographs of the Russian Minister of Defense’s presentation of a personal standard to the new head of the GRU, blue stripes and the edge of the shoulder straps of the new head of military intelligence are clearly visible.

It is noteworthy that not only the sudden death of the former chief, but also the appointment of his successor were actively covered by both Russian and foreign media, moreover - they gave rise to several conspiracy theories. Some respected publications quite seriously, with references to anonymous sources, describing the "backstage" struggle between the FSB, the SVR and the GRU, talked about the redistribution of spheres of influence that had begun in Russian intelligence and even about that "the death of General Sergun can cause unrest not only in the GRU , but also around Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. ”

Range of duties


The work of the GRU is associated primarily with illegal immigrants and foreign residencies, who obtain information on the latest developments of the military-industrial complex of a potential enemy, on the deployment and arming of its troops and nuclear secrets. The structure also includes offices specializing in electronic and space intelligence, cryptanalysis ...

It is clear that such activity is under the most strict security classification. At the same time, the GRU is also responsible for the application, the organizational structure and the army intelligence units, which are subordinate to the intelligence department of the Ground Forces.

After the return to the GRU of special forces, upon transition to a new look transferred to the main command of the Ground Forces, the command structure, according to some reports, also included the command of special operations forces. So in addition to strategic, electronic and space reconnaissance, the new head of the GRU and his subordinates will have to deal with units and subdivisions of Special Forces, SSO centers, take part in the reorganization of the intelligence agencies of the Ground Forces, the Naval fleetAirborne.

Reports from the field


At the request of the newspaper "Military Industrial Courier" intelligence officers told about the existing problems and possible solutions.

According to the majority of respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the shocks suffered as a result of the reforms of former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and the former head of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov. This is especially obvious in the training system. According to one of the interlocutors with a wealth of experience, commanders are taught to manage troops in battle, but they do not explain how to conduct and organize reconnaissance.

There is still personnel shortage, as many officers with specialized education and extensive experience were dismissed during the transition to a new look, and now military personnel, often far from reconnaissance, are assigned to established posts. This requires a major restructuring.

The interlocutors of the publication are in favor of more active work between the structures of the GRU and the main command of the Land Forces. Moreover, after the transfer of “there and then back” parts of special purpose, the work of both the GRU and the SV sometimes leaves much to be desired.

At present, in the brigade-army unit, power reconnaissance units are actively being created: companies in reconnaissance battalions of combined-arms brigades and special forces battalions in military reconnaissance brigades. At the same time, not only the structure, but also the peculiarities of the use of new units of special forces require careful refinement.

Some interlocutors of the "MIC" believe that special forces units and subunits become too much to the detriment of the bodies conducting radio intelligence.

“Special forces are needed in moderation. Special Forces groups must somehow be introduced behind enemy lines, then evacuated. We need aviation, and especially helicopters. But where can you get them? Reconnaissance battalions and brigades need more drones, in particular such as Orlan. It is necessary to build up the forces and means of electronic intelligence, to increase their capabilities, ”the reconnaissance officer of the Ground Forces expresses his wishes.

Not everyone agrees with the opinion that troops are oversaturated with special forces units. In the context of modern wars and conflicts, special forces units are not so heavily dependent on aviation. In the absence of a continuous front line, SPN teams are introduced into the rear of the enemy on specialized automotive equipment, in particular Tiger armored vehicles.

In a local conflict, as international experience proves, drones and radio intelligence equipment are effective in fighting terrorists. And if the enemy is a modern high-tech army with powerful air defense systems, as well as specialized control and electronic warfare equipment, which reduces the effectiveness of our electronic reconnaissance equipment?

Another headache of combined arms reconnaissance companies is the newly created sniper companies, for which brigade intelligence chiefs are generally responsible. “There are no regulatory documents yet, there is no combat training program. But there are already companies, ”the sniper officer states.

Of course, the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate is unlikely to personally deal with the organizational structure of the battalions and special-purpose companies, and write combat training programs for military snipers. But these are tasks for his subordinates.
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  1. +8
    10 February 2016 10: 33
    "..... According to the majority of respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the shocks suffered as a result of the reforms of ex-defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov and former chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov." ...
    So many problems because of these freaks! But they feel good - new posts, good pensions, benefits, medical care. We must add to this list Kvashnina, that pretzel.
    1. +5
      10 February 2016 10: 38
      They say a lot of things about which it is not customary to talk and open information.
      1. +2
        10 February 2016 10: 49
        Quote: cniza
        They say a lot of things about which it is not customary to talk and open information.

        But you need to talk about this:
        Most of all in intelligence, it is precisely the “political” decisions that are afraid of - the unexpected appointment of people who are new to the specifics of the job to leadership positions. Experience and history suggest that such steps in difficult historical periods led to curiosities at best, and failures at worst. A classic example is the situation around the GRU during perestroika and immediately after the collapse of the USSR. Both worthy army generals who headed the GRU during the “Gorbachev period" (after the resignation of the living legend of Peter Ivashutin in 1987) had nothing to do with intelligence. One of them was remembered as a “masquerade”: he sincerely believed that officers of the General Staff should go to work in uniform and issued an appropriate order. As a result, employees of the central office came to the old GRU building on Khoroshevskoye Shosse in uniform, and in their offices they were already dressing in suits. Is funny Perhaps. But one must understand that anyone could sit opposite the entrance and rewrite the ranks of the incoming and the type of troops.
        Quote: kapitan92
        So many problems because of these freaks! But they feel good, new posts, good pensions, benefits, medical care.
        Now the need for a strategic assessment of information is greater than ever in the history of the Russian Federation. The choice of General Korobov for the post of head of the GRU could have been predetermined by just such a deal and the attendant calculations in the leadership of the country and the army. And this, in turn, forms a new vector for the development of military intelligence, including in terms of internal reforms and recruitment. No politics. Only pragmatist.

        Use: http: //topwar.ru/print: page, 1,90356-naznachenie-generala-korobova-mnogoe

        -govorit-o-prioritetah-v-deyatelnosti-gru.html
      2. +1
        10 February 2016 11: 19
        We wish him effective work for the benefit of Russia.
      3. +2
        10 February 2016 12: 32
        Quote: cniza
        They say a lot of things about which it is not customary to talk and open information.

        I agree with you. It reassures one that this structure has managed not to bend under more than one power (it began long before the 17th revolution), which means that smart people are sitting there. All the same, they are for the MOTHERLAND, and not for the oligarchs ... Lord give them strength. good
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. +2
      10 February 2016 10: 41
      He replaced Colonel General Igor Sergun, who died on January 3 from acute heart failure. On February 2, the new head of the GRU received a personal standard from the hands of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

      Hold on to the general .. The duty in the current situation in the world is VERY responsible and dangerous! We hope that you will not fail! Strong heart and analytical mind should be ..
    4. +6
      10 February 2016 10: 45
      Serdyukov - when I see or hear this name, it starts to shake me! Even Chubais doesn’t turn it on like that ... laughing

      P.S. Although there is very little funny!
      1. +8
        10 February 2016 11: 45
        Serdyukov, Serdyukov, Serdyukov, Serdyukov, Serdyukov wassat

        Not very cracked ...
        Sorry if that hi
    5. 0
      10 February 2016 11: 04
      Quote: kapitan92
      "..... According to the majority of respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the shocks suffered as a result of the reforms of ex-defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov and former chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov." ...
      So many problems because of these freaks! But they feel good - new posts, good pensions, benefits, medical care. We must add to this list Kvashnina, that pretzel.

      Do not tell me when it comes to reform. GRU is a special structure that is personally controlled by the president. There is no devastation there.
      Do not mislead people with excerpts from all kinds of LJ!
      1. +4
        10 February 2016 11: 12
        Kind chikenous59! You read the article ??? THIS "..... According to the majority of respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the shocks suffered as a result of the reforms of the ex-Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and the former head of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov." ... QUOTE from the article !!!!!
        Regarding these freaks, I call a spade a spade - my opinion! hi
        1. +1
          10 February 2016 11: 20
          Quote: kapitan92
          According to the majority of respondents

          Do most of the respondents have last names?
          1. +4
            10 February 2016 11: 36
            "...... According to the majority of respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the turmoil endured as a result of the reforms of ex-Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and former Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov. This is especially evident in the personnel training system. According to one of the interlocutors with the rich experience, commanders are taught how to manage troops in battle, but they do not explain how to conduct and organize reconnaissance "..... (article by Alexei Mikhailov)
            There are surnames! You learn them from the author of the article. hi
        2. 0
          10 February 2016 12: 55
          Quote: kapitan92
          .According to the majority of respondents

          I beg you, no one from the GRU will agree to any polls, then the question is: Who was interviewed?
          Grandmothers at the entrance ???
          1. +4
            10 February 2016 13: 22
            I don’t have to beg! Who was interviewed? You ask the author of the article we are discussing. smile
    6. +2
      10 February 2016 11: 18
      Quote: kapitan92
      So many problems because of these freaks!

      They had nothing to do with the GRU. And you kind of wrote that you went through 1 Chechen. Moreover, they should know that the MO is not related to the GRU.
      And according to Serdyukov, we now have the army that he built. Someone likes it or not. And during his reign, the Air Force has delivered about 400 helicopters, I won’t write the rest.
      These are just facts, despite my personal negative attitude towards Serdyukov.
      Quote: kapitan92
      It is necessary to add to this list Kvashnina, that pretzel.

      Kvashin obeyed the orders of the Kremlin. Not Kvashin declared a truce with the Czechs, but the Kremlin. Kvashin was just a cog in a pile of betrayal.
      1. +5
        10 February 2016 11: 27
        "...... And according to Serdyukov, we now have an army that he built." ...
        This is your personal opinion!
        Tip. Before posting, answering your opponents, carefully READ the subject of discussion. I will personally repeat to you, Serdyukov, Kvashnin, Makarov, the upstarts who inflicted serious damage on their posts in the RF Armed Forces. (IMHO) hi
      2. +4
        10 February 2016 11: 50
        Minister of Defense Serdyukov (2007-2012).
        "..... And during the period of his reign, about 400 helicopters were delivered to the Air Force" .....
        Reset the link.
        "... On May 22, 2013, speaking in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, the new Minister of Defense of Russia Sergei Shoigu noted the most gross mistakes of Serdyukov as head of the department. Among them are the closure of a number of military universities and a reduction in the admission of applicants to the remaining universities, which created an acute shortage of military specialists in the army and navy; the destruction of the military medicine system, the failure of the defense order, the untimely, late conclusion of contracts with enterprises of the military-industrial complex, due to which products with a long technological production cycle did not have time to be released. The figures from the report of the Auditor of the Accounts Chamber given by Shoigu The deputies called V. Bogomolov on the audit of the budget of the Armed Forces “murderous.” Anatoly Lokot considered that, following the results of Shoigu's report, legal grounds appeared to bring Serdyukov a criminal charge of the collapse of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. "
        Something like that! hi
        1. 0
          10 February 2016 12: 21
          Quote: kapitan92
          Reset link

          Well, you’re a boy, if it’s really interesting, I’ve already posted a bunch of times on the site. Again, I have to search on the Internet to run. This is in real access., But your ...
          Quote: kapitan92
          "... On May 22, 2013, speaking in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, the new Minister of Defense of Russia Sergei Shoigu noted the most serious mistakes of Serdyukov as head of departments

          You can find out where the info about this speech from Shoigu comes from. All links go to Wikipedia, and there I can now add any text on behalf of Shoigu.
          Quote: kapitan92
          Something like that!

          Quote: kapitan92
          Something like that!

          And Kvashina here what side fuss?
          1. +4
            10 February 2016 12: 49
            "...... A" government hour "was held in the State Duma with the participation of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. The event was closed. After graduation, some deputies shared their impressions and talked about the main topics that the head of the department touched on in his report. ".... (. 22.05 2013)
            You are not a boy! Type in the internet and read.
            A big request to you: you once again "... (I've already posted a bunch of times here on the website" ..)
            a bunch is not necessary, but about 400 helicopters is interesting.
            That's it!
            ".... And Kvashina is here, what side of the bustle?" ....
            Firstly, Kvashnin, and secondly, he was the NSSh MO RF.
            1. +4
              10 February 2016 12: 58
              "....... Figures" - this is what impressed the deputies. Some clarified: "dry numbers", or "many numbers are simply deadly." "Figures summing up under the period of Serdyukovism - about the number of purchased equipment, the number of marriage , unprepared equipment ", as Anatoly Lokot (Communist Party of the Russian Federation) put it. Although the very name" Serdyukov "and the assessment of his activities from the lips of Minister Shoigu did not sounded:" I am not currency for my predecessors, "- this is how the deputies conveyed his words. .mk.ru / politics / article / 2013/05/22/858259-shoygu-sekretno-vyi
              stupil-v-gosdume-shokirovav-tsiframi-o-nasledii-serdyukova.html

              After the minister, the report was made by the Auditor of the Accounts Chamber Valery Bogomolov, who is responsible for the “army direction” and said, according to Mr. Lokot, “about the effectiveness of the cost of purchasing new equipment”. "This report should simply be taken and carried to the Prosecutor General" ......
              1. +4
                10 February 2016 13: 14
                "...... And Kvashnin is here, what is the hustle and bustle here?" ..... "......... It was then that Kvashnin so believed in the inevitability of his early career takeoff that he even began to distribute the most important posts for Thus, the head of the GRU General Staff Colonel-General Valentin Korabelnikov (who served as a think tank under Kvashnin) was promised the post of Chief of the General Staff, and the Chief of the General Staff General Staff Colonel-General Yuri Baluevsky was promised the post of Deputy Minister of Defense for Arms candidates for appointment to the post of Chief of the Main Directorate of the Military Budget and Financing of the Ministry of Defense, as well as other key posts in the central apparatus of the Russian military department. "......
                http://nvo.ng.ru/forces/2001-06-15/1_changes.html
    7. 0
      10 February 2016 12: 48
      «Special Forces needed in moderation. SPN groups must somehow be entered behind enemy lines, and then evacuated. Need aviation, and especially helicopters. But where to get them?
      They’ve been asking about this since the time of Afghanistan .. In general, it’s wise that helicopters directly attached to them would be very useful for special forces and landing units, and it would be better to make them full-time units .. Moreover, it will not be very expensive in cost, the equipment is now very ground-based and the difference between the turntable and the same BMD-4M is not great ..
      pc: I’m going to sacrifice everything sacred, it would be possible to find funds by the method of redistribution, having withdrawn part of the parachute-landing training and letting them into the materiel in the form of turntables .. Will our valiant airborne and special mission parachute-mounted airbags use the big question (especially the massive one) , but the fact that the turntables will not stand idle will not be absolutely certain ..
    8. 0
      10 February 2016 17: 57
      According to most respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the overwhelming shocks resulting from the reforms


      Yes, unless intelligence. . . .

      Thank God at least at such a pace and in this context.
  2. +1
    10 February 2016 10: 34
    Need secret secrecy!
    1. +2
      10 February 2016 10: 50
      Quote: KAPITANUS

      Need secret secrecy!


      With a signature stamp "Burn before reading." ... Yes
  3. +2
    10 February 2016 10: 48
    Just +. And then - secret information.
  4. +2
    10 February 2016 10: 57
    Quote: kapitan92
    "..... According to the majority of respondents, intelligence has not yet recovered from the shocks suffered as a result of the reforms of ex-defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov and former chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov." ...
    So many problems because of these freaks! But they feel good - new posts, good pensions, benefits, medical care. We must add to this list Kvashnina, that pretzel.

    And here is the work of snipers, to hone their skills.
  5. 0
    10 February 2016 11: 02
    There is too much attention to the new head of the GRU.
    1. +1
      10 February 2016 11: 34
      There is too much attention to the new head of the GRU.
      yes, yes .. even the phrase of GDP that Erdogan wanted to lick someone, Japanese newspapers did not translate, saying that GDP was joking in this place ..
      And with us - everything is serious ..!
  6. +1
    10 February 2016 11: 03
    God help the warrior.
  7. +3
    10 February 2016 11: 03
    After the death of Igor Sergun, our top army leadership decided for a month, choosing who to appoint to this position. Selection and appointment made. I hope that the decision has been made balanced and carefully considered. Good luck, general !!
  8. +4
    10 February 2016 11: 05
    The usual thing - after a shortage, there is a bust. Moreover, it is now fashionable to trump the title of "special forces". And after the operation in the Crimea, everyone was enrolled in special forces.
    All this speaks about one thing - there is still no clear worked out doctrine of the use of SPN. Either they replace the infantry and military intelligence, or they fight terrorists instead of explosives. Spetsnaz is not an assault force or an ersatz "Alpha". Even work in the interests of the brigade is not their level. There will be enough regular reconnaissance battalion.
    The objectives of the Special Forces mission were clearly defined in the Soviet Army. In addition to launch mines and mobile missile launchers, special forces hunted for headquarters, communications centers, airfields, and other strategic sites. And for the most part did not attack them, but aimed his missiles and aircraft. If necessary, he took the language and, if necessary, worked actively.
    Even in Afghanistan, special forces played the role of mountain rangers + intelligence. There is no point in remembering Chechnya, I almost managed to work there with a construction battalion.
    Although the situation has changed now, and the technique has become different, the tasks of the special forces have largely remained the same. Unfortunately, few people understand this, and what is especially frightening, among "few ..." there are just the responsible officials of the RF Defense Ministry.
    1. 0
      10 February 2016 11: 18
      Quote: erased
      ... Unfortunately, few people understand this, and what is especially frightening, among "few ..." there are just the responsible officials of the RF Ministry of Defense.

      good
  9. +2
    10 February 2016 11: 07
    A month has passed since the sudden death of Sergun and the appointment of Korobov. And this speaks of a thoughtful, verified solution. After weighing all the pros and cons, a professional of 4 candidates was appointed. And that means that the vector of development of the GRU’s strategy and activity will not change much, which is important in the current military-political situation. Keeping continuity, we will keep our intelligence!
  10. +1
    10 February 2016 11: 13
    The main thing is that the system works for Russia, without regard to the market conditions of the chiefs
  11. 0
    10 February 2016 11: 28
    On the appointment, I want to believe that the continuity and traditions of this department will increase for the good of Russia, and not in the interests of the department itself.
  12. +1
    10 February 2016 11: 39
    Fraternization with sworn "friends" is costly to the security of the interests of the Russian Federation. Intelligence and counterintelligence is a slice of society. Healthy competition between SVR, GRU, FSB, FSO is a guarantee of the security of the Russian Federation. Not only NATO's military structure has become more active, but also intelligence centers. The activities of the State Department emissaries are intensifying. Firm belief that the head of illegal intelligence should never be the head of all intelligence, with all due respect to General Korobov. hi Some things in Ukraine, Syria, Turkey, Poland ... are alarming recourse
  13. 0
    10 February 2016 12: 17
    intelligence still recovering from shocks from reforms

    Any "reforms" in the special services, and the GRU belongs to this category, tk. conducts its work abroad, in the 90s they did not lead to anything good. The main thing is that no "reformer" can change the methods and forms of work of such structures. They have been developing over the centuries and you cannot put anything new here, except for technical innovations. Another thing is the so-called. political will and a shift in geographic focus.
  14. bad
    0
    10 February 2016 12: 31
    What problems can the new head of the GRU solve?
    .. I wish him to restore the disbanded brigades of the Special Staff .. the harsh time is coming ..
    1. -2
      10 February 2016 12: 58
      Quote: bad
      I wish him to restore the disbanded brigades of the Special Forces ... the harsh time is coming ..

      The brigades are not disbanded, they are even more classified.
      Or do you think the MTR operates without the knowledge of the GRU?
      The elite will not even be left without special staff.
  15. 0
    10 February 2016 13: 23
    The author hurried. There is no information about the transfer of special forces brigades from the Ground Forces under the wing of the GRU ... there was only infa that the MO was only going ...

    And about the MTR! Most likely it is an independent structure. It is not included anywhere. It acts autonomously, since the GRU is apparently a bulky structure in itself, and this slows down decision-making ...

    Apparently, when creating the MTR, they decided to transfer the special forces brigades to the Ground Forces, so that they would not duplicate each other in matters of special operations of the MTR and GRU ...

    Most likely, the MTR includes various special forces units (air, sea, land), delivery vehicles, special training centers, support groups, psychological operations groups, technical and operational support groups, medical teams ... they put it all in one fist , under a single operational management. MTR are necessary for use both in local conflicts and in global ...
    1. -3
      10 February 2016 14: 06
      Quote: From Samara
      And about the MTR! Most likely it is an independent structure. It is not included anywhere. It acts autonomously, since the GRU is apparently a bulky structure in itself, and this slows down decision-making ...

      GRU controls any units operating abroad
      1. 0
        10 February 2016 14: 13
        Quote: chikenous59
        Quote: From Samara
        And about the MTR! Most likely it is an independent structure. It is not included anywhere. It acts autonomously, since the GRU is apparently a bulky structure in itself, and this slows down decision-making ...

        GRU controls any units operating abroad


        I am not sure about the MTR. Any extra control increases the chance of information leakage. Most likely, the MTR has its own analytics and its planning ... maybe they interact, but they don’t control it.The military counterintelligence of the FSB controls all ...
        1. -3
          10 February 2016 14: 36
          Quote: From Samara
          Regarding the MTR is not sure.

          You are not sure, but I know. So sorry ...
          I will not explain to you the structure of the work of specials. units.
          1. 0
            10 February 2016 14: 51
            Quote: chikenous59
            Quote: From Samara
            Regarding the MTR is not sure.

            You are not sure, but I know. So sorry ...
            I will not explain to you the structure of the work of specials. units.


            Well, I don’t argue. It’s easier for me, I sleep peacefully. If I really knew, I wouldn’t climb out here at all ... For there are all kinds of subscriptions ... sad
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  17. -2
    10 February 2016 13: 58
    In my opinion, all these reforms only cause unambiguous harm to the cause. It is not worthwhile to focus on the existing one, but you still have to be careful with the transfer of parts. First you need to FORMULATE clearly defined tasks and calculate material capabilities.

    Whoever said that, but special forces without their delivery vehicles (Aviation, specially trained pilots) are not special forces. This especially affected the operations of the US Army special forces ... where Delta, Seals paid with the blood of their fighters and frustrated operations due to the absence of that stage of its trained aviation! A helicopter crash is a nightmare for the US Army Special Forces ... and this nightmare in the form of falling helicopters during an operation constantly haunts them!
  18. 0
    10 February 2016 14: 15
    Dear, this department does not tolerate much idle talk and fuss, which I also wish you
    1. 0
      10 February 2016 14: 28
      We have nothing to do with secrets at all. The article has been tabled for discussion, so we assume in the discussions without knowing the details ...

      Be simpler, otherwise you make your thoughts of analysts from hostile intelligence your warning ... belay Yeah ... And they rub here apparently be healthy!
  19. 0
    10 February 2016 18: 39
    SPN groups are introduced behind enemy lines
    eye terminology cuts
  20. +1
    10 February 2016 18: 48
    Quote: From Samara
    Controls all military counterintelligence of the FSB ... [/ b]
    you are, to put it mildly, wrong
    1. 0
      10 February 2016 19: 59
      Quote: hoca
      Quote: From Samara
      Controls all military counterintelligence of the FSB ... [/ b]
      you are, to put it mildly, wrong


      Common truths. Without counterintelligence in any way. This is security first of all. What do you mean by the word control ... X.Z
  21. 0
    10 February 2016 20: 03
    truths are different
    1. 0
      10 February 2016 20: 09
      Only for fools. And the counter-intelligence support of all 100% parts is real and conservative truth, for which the Special Departments were created. For the traitors identified including the GRU at the time, this is very noticeable ...
  22. 0
    10 February 2016 20: 20
    it’s clear that you are not in the subject, but oh well
    1. -2
      10 February 2016 20: 26
      And who is not present in the subject. They should keep their mouth shut ... lol
      1. -2
        11 February 2016 07: 19
        Quote: From Samara
        And who is not present in the subject. They should keep their mouth shut ... lol

        Not supposed to give out secrets, but you can discuss)

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