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Thai Defense Ministry admitted that it is interested in Russian T-90

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Thai War Department intends to soon purchase new overseas Tanks, and shows interest in the Russian T-90, transmits RIA News Statement by the representative of the Army Command Vintkhay Suvari.


Children's Day in Bangkok, January 9 2016

Earlier, the Thai military denied media reports about the plans of the country's defense minister to begin negotiations with the Russian side on the acquisition of armored vehicles.

Suvari explained that “a temporary commission for the acquisition of tanks is being created in the military department, which will review vehicles manufactured in different countries and report to the government on its considerations on the acquisition of tank vehicles.”

“The decision on which tanks to acquire will be made by the commission, taking into account the advantages of all possible options, based on the principles of cost efficiency and openness of the transaction,” he added.

The minister himself had previously explained that during his visit to Moscow, he would inspect Russian cars, but it was too early to talk about their purchase.

Nowadays, the military regards them as contenders for the purchase of 3 type tanks: the Russian T-90 and the Chinese MBT 3000 and VT-4.
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  1. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 February 2016 17: 46
    10
    I realized this yesterday. Like, it's just that their minister will attend the bridegroom of our "harsh Ural guy." Like, so ... he'll look half-eyed --- purely out of natural curiosity. What can I tell you, Thais --- We must take !!!
    1. Kars
      Kars 9 February 2016 17: 50
      14
      The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 9 February 2016 17: 53
        +4
        Probably they didn’t agree on any terms of the order and delivery. It’s usual business. And now ... you know yourself. By the way, Kars, at what price your tank was bought by Thais (per unit).
        1. Kars
          Kars 9 February 2016 17: 56
          +1
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          A common thing. And now ..., well, you understand

          Something it reminds me of Peru. And there T-90 was there even during testing.
          1. cniza
            cniza 9 February 2016 18: 17
            +6
            Tricky and cautious, especially after the contract with Ukraine, they will now look and bargain for a long time ...
        2. kil 31
          kil 31 9 February 2016 19: 20
          +4
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Probably they didn’t agree on any terms of the order and delivery. It’s usual business. And now ... you know yourself. By the way, Kars, at what price your tank was bought by Thais (per unit).

          Not cheap with that quality. Even Ukraine refused to buy into the troops.
          The cost of the new BM Oplot under a 2009 contract for the supply of 10 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 29,5 million hryvnias per unit. The export price of the new Oplot-M under the contract for the supply of the Royal Thai Army is about $ 4,9 million per unit as of 2011.
          The first, and perhaps the most important reason for Ukraine is the price. According to Ukroboronprom, Oplot exported at $ 4,9 million apiece. The cost of Bulat is about $ 1 million. But they cost the Ministry of Defense even cheaper, since the department does not buy a tank, but pays only for the modernization of the machine from its reserves.

          There is no information on how much it costs to upgrade one T-64 in open sources. According to Biryukov, the cost of one "Hold" is comparable to the price of modernization of ten T-64.
          1. Kars
            Kars 9 February 2016 19: 28
            +2
            Quote: keel 31
            Not cheap with that quality.

            And what is already data on quality problems?
            1. kil 31
              kil 31 9 February 2016 19: 56
              +1
              Quote: Kars
              Quote: keel 31
              Not cheap with that quality.

              And what is already data on quality problems?

              Not fur water. I will not approve "Oplot". But in the net there are a lot of stuffing, about poor quality armor and constant problems with the transmission. Maybe it's fakes. request
              1. Kars
                Kars 9 February 2016 20: 18
                +1
                Quote: keel 31
                ro poor quality armor and constant problems with the transmission

                about BM Oplot? I have never seen. Like complaints from Thailand where the first five have been in operation for more than a year.
                1. Just me
                  Just me 9 February 2016 21: 41
                  +2
                  So 10 tanks, what complaints? Two years manual assembly practically With all due respect to Morozov Design Bureau, in a country where 25 years have not been invested in science, there can be no breakthrough solutions. Have you learned to make trunks or use the Urals from the damned communique past?
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 9 February 2016 21: 42
                    +1
                    Quote: Simple
                    So 10 tanks heh what complaints Two years manual assembly practically

                    Quote: keel 31
                    Not cheap with that quality.

                    here it is necessary to decide.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 9 February 2016 17: 56
        +8
        Quote: Kars
        The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

        Burnt on the "Oplot", they blow on the T-90. smile

        Agree that after such an experience of cooperation with a reliable European partner, involuntarily you will measure seven times.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 9 February 2016 18: 23
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Agree that after such an experience of cooperation with a reliable European partner, you will inevitably be measured seven times.

          We also have experience with reliable Customers! But as they say for one beaten - they give two unbeaten!
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 9 February 2016 18: 01
        +4
        Quote: Kars
        The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

        Thais are not rich people, they will now look at every nut along the way, once they have already bought a "pig in a poke".
        1. Kars
          Kars 9 February 2016 18: 04
          +2
          Quote: APASUS
          Thais people are not rich

          It is strange then that they initially bought BM Oplot at 4 a million dollars, and not T-90 for 3
          1. Terner38
            Terner38 9 February 2016 18: 37
            +2
            Apparently someone STRONGLY recommended purchasing Oplot at 4, and today "small but 3" ...
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 9 February 2016 19: 30
            +2
            Quote: Kars
            Quote: APASUS
            Thais people are not rich

            It is strange then that they initially bought BM Oplot at 4 a million dollars, and not T-90 for 3

            The cost of the new BM Oplot under a 2009 contract for the supply of 10 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 29,5 million hryvnias per unit. But due to lack of funding, the supply of weapons has been suspended. The export price of the new Oplot-M under the contract for the supply of the Royal Thai Army is about $ 4,9 million per unit as of 2011.

            http://military-informant.com
            It seems like a mistake turns out with a price
            1. Kars
              Kars 9 February 2016 19: 33
              +1
              Quote: APASUS
              It seems like a mistake turns out with a price

              Who?
              As you know, on September 1, 2011, Ukrspetsexport Group of Companies signed a contract with the operational management of the Royal Thai Army worth more than $ 240 million to supply Thailand with 49 new Oplot tanks and two armored recovery vehicles based on them by the end of 2014.
        2. Alekseev
          Alekseev 9 February 2016 18: 16
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          Thais people are not rich

          And it’s not completely independent in terms of procurement of arms and military equipment. wink
          After all, they were strongly advised to purchase MBT in Ukraine ...
          However, this is the case for everyone - not only TTX and the price of arms and military equipment are taken into account when concluding such contracts.
          And they would have bought it if the Ukrainians managed to find some more old T-80UD and podshamanit them.request But ... due to a number of well-known circumstances, it is not fate.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 9 February 2016 18: 20
            +2
            Thai Defense Ministry admitted that it is interested in Russian T-90

            And what did they lose interest in Ukrainian tanks ?: lol
          2. Kars
            Kars 9 February 2016 18: 24
            +2
            Quote: Alekseev
            After all, they were strongly advised to purchase MBT in Ukraine ...

            And who told you this? On the basis of what such conclusions were made?
            How did such a non-independent country buy the Strela MANPADS and Mi-17 in the Russian Federation? Or buy Chinese armored personnel carriers?
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 9 February 2016 19: 33
              +2
              Quote: Kars
              How such an independent country purchased MANPADS Strela and Mi-17

              So the Americans buy MI17 for their operations in Afghanistan and what does this mean? that they are also not independent?
              1. Kars
                Kars 9 February 2016 19: 37
                +2
                Quote: APASUS
                So the Americans buy MI17 for their operations in Afghanistan and what does this mean? that they are also not independent?

                Well, this is not a question for me. So if the United States buys Mi-17 why Thailand can not buy BM Oplot?
      4. Altona
        Altona 9 February 2016 22: 37
        0
        Quote: Kars
        The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

        ------------------------
        What's with the Thai "Strongholds" by the way? The strongholds are solidified. laughing
        1. Kars
          Kars 9 February 2016 22: 44
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          What's with the Thai "Strongholds" by the way?

          yes everything is as always
          November 1 2011
          According to confidential information obtained from trustworthy sources in Kiev, Ukrspetsexport received a notification from the Thai Defense Ministry about the suspension, due to force majeure, of the contract for the supply of another batch of armored personnel carriers and the complete termination of the contract for the supply of 49 Oplot tanks. According to other sources, Thailand is planning an urgent purchase of Russian helicopters, PTS-4 floating transporters manufactured by Uralvagonzavod Corporation (the quantity in both cases is not specified), medical equipment and rescue equipment manufactured by the USA, Canada and Sweden.

          Quote: Altona
          Bastions paid

          Have you seen the roots of money transfers?
      5. self-propelled
        self-propelled 9 February 2016 23: 47
        0
        Quote: Kars
        The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

        to promise is not to marry. so here - to look closely does not mean to buy. market-competition-value (and a bunch of factors in the flesh before who sponsors the deal and who sponsors the country ...) let's be pragmatists. time will tell "who is who" and who needs it ...
    2. Proxima
      Proxima 9 February 2016 17: 58
      +3
      Arms exporters know a very interesting rule. The higher the prestige of the state they represent, the greater the volume of sales. So, let's hope that there won't be another staff reduction at Uralvagonzavod.
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 9 February 2016 18: 04
      +1
      well, if their life was not taught on Ukrainian tanks, then let them buy Chinese, at least cheaper to scare people and delight their citizens with huge iron. But Thailand is unlikely to wage a real war, so the T-90 is for Syria, Iraq, for those who are fighting seriously
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 9 February 2016 18: 11
        +1
        For the future, they are stocking up. Suddenly, the Chinese will begin to misbehave. So at least some opportunity to hold out longer until the allies come up.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 9 February 2016 17: 48
    +4
    "Chinese MBT 3000 and VT-4."

    Both remodelers, what to expect from them? request
    1. tomket
      tomket 9 February 2016 17: 52
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Both remodelers, what to expect from them?

      Suddenly, Thailand will again step on the same rake and chase after savings)
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 9 February 2016 17: 57
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      what to expect from them?
      Maybe low prices? The Chinese love dumping.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 9 February 2016 22: 18
        0
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Maybe low prices? The Chinese love dumping.

        Well, if the guys are not at all naive, then they will read about the condition and price of the service from the Chinese.
    3. Kars
      Kars 9 February 2016 17: 58
      +7
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Both remodelers, what to expect from them?

      And the funny thing is that this is the same tank.)))

      it is strange that the Thai military official does not know this))
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 9 February 2016 18: 22
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        And the funny thing is that this is the same tank.

        Thank you, I didn’t.
        1. johnny
          johnny 9 February 2016 19: 05
          +2
          T-72 in the skin of Abrams lol
          the Chinese rarely come up with their own ...
  3. sever.56
    sever.56 9 February 2016 17: 50
    +4
    Take it - you won't regret it! Russian means "excellent"!
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 9 February 2016 17: 52
    +3
    T-90’s strange competitors! Why are Thais considering these tanks as competitors? It seems to me that they want to save .. Western competitors are more expensive as one
  5. donavi49
    donavi49 9 February 2016 17: 52
    +7
    Meanwhile, it seems that the transfer of the Arab coalition to Jordan has begun. Columns of transporters with Oshkosh are already in the country going north to Syria.
    https://twitter.com/WarfareWW/status/696996038398373888


    Taking into account the words of Davutoglu - "We will repay our historical duty. Once our brothers from Aleppo defended our cities - Sanliurfa, Gaziantep, Kahramanmaras (during the First World War - ed.), Now we will protect the heroic Aleppo. Behind his defenders, all of Turkey"

    It is quite realistic that they will climb immediately from the South and the North.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 9 February 2016 18: 06
      +4
      Quote: donavi49
      It is quite realistic that they will climb immediately from the South and the North.

      I understand that Jordan has no problems at all?
      Allowing foreign troops into their territory and opening a second front, all of this is strange. Jordan’s politics do not have sharp distortions, so this is why it still hasn’t collapsed, but now it’s rushing into the arms of the SA and why?
      The opinion of our Israeli interlocutors on this matter is very interesting, they are closer, and indeed they have been boiling in this boiler for 50 years
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 9 February 2016 18: 17
      +2
      Quote: donavi49
      to jordan
      They can concentrate aviation on Jordan airfields. It would be imprudent to use armored vehicles without air cover if they were going to fight.
      Quote: donavi49
      brothers from Aleppo
      Here, Ottoman, what I thought of what times I remembered ...
  6. flSergius
    flSergius 9 February 2016 18: 02
    0
    Well done! No need to complex and shy of their desires, if they are sound)))))
  7. asadov
    asadov 9 February 2016 18: 03
    +1
    do not break, Thais. Take not regret it.
  8. vglazunov
    vglazunov 9 February 2016 18: 09
    -5
    The sale of defense is the goal of disarming the army and navy of Russia. Tell me why the Indians and other British colonies need tanks and planes to eliminate the defense potential of Russia or the weapons of ISIS. And who are the moneylenders, these are Jews like Mendel and Rotenberg, and other enemies of the Russian people.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 9 February 2016 18: 21
      +3
      Quote: vglazunov
      Tell me why the Indians and other British colonies need tanks and planes to eliminate the defense potential of Russia or the weapons of ISIS.

      As I understand it, the regular Pakistan-Indian wars have passed by you? As well as the traditional rivalry of India and China, also not without its military conflicts?
      And yes Indians arming ISIS - this, perhaps, will be more abrupt than the rabbi performing the prayer. India has had friction with Muslims throughout its independence. It is enough to recall at least how Pakistan was formed ... or how some people overcame Bangladesh. smile
      1. vglazunov
        vglazunov 9 February 2016 21: 17
        -2
        Where are we and where is India? Where did the aircraft carriers sell out? Are partners or friends? 500 tons of uranium is a gift from Yeltsin?
        1. Dewa1s
          Dewa1s 10 February 2016 06: 05
          +1
          partners are not friends and not enemies. These are sources of financing.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 10 February 2016 10: 38
          0
          Quote: vglazunov
          Where are we and where is India? Where did the aircraft carriers sell out?

          India currently our ally who distracts the packs.
          For the aircraft carriers, say thanks to the Navy and SovMin of the USSR, who laid the boats with enviable tenacity, not providing them with a normal basing.
          Quote: vglazunov
          500 tons of uranium is a gift from Yeltsin?

          This is a nuclear strike on the American mining and chemical industry, from which it has not recovered so far. At the time of signing the agreement, the Yankees planned to switch to centrifuges. But cheap Russian uranium killed these plans in the bud - why pay a lot for your own when you can quickly and cheaply buy someone else's. And then it was too late ...
      2. vglazunov
        vglazunov 14 February 2016 18: 42
        0
        Through the Indians and other partners, we merge the defense industry before the onset of PendoNATO, this is clear to everyone.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 14 February 2016 18: 47
          0
          Quote: vglazunov
          Through the Indians and other partners, we merge the defense industry

          Yeah .. that's something Chinese engines will not reproduce in any way .. and after all "full technology transfer" was hot, no? wink

          And the Hindus against the Chinese - well .. "like a carpenter against a joiner" (c)

          Quote: vglazunov
          it is clear to everyone except idiots who have not grown up and not received education in the USSR

          You would be more careful with the terminology, dear .. we can still measure who has what .. education (I, too, "from those times", if that).
          1. vglazunov
            vglazunov 14 February 2016 19: 04
            0
            Dear, I just know that the new engines are those old NZs from the time of the USSR, which are assembled from sets stolen at the factory. Many specialists who designed and finished them in the next world.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 14 February 2016 19: 25
              0
              Quote: vglazunov
              Dear, I just know that the new engines are those old NZs from the time of the USSR, which are assembled from sets stolen at the factory

              And such here too? No need .. dirt ..
              1. vglazunov
                vglazunov 14 February 2016 20: 09
                0
                The Ufa Engine-Building Production Association ... I’m just in the know, the turbines specialist himself, debugging is not a simple matter. Previously, the factory workers tried to sell shovels from special materials to the left, like they caught :)
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 14 February 2016 20: 32
                  0
                  Quote: vglazunov
                  debugging is not easy

                  Just about ...

                  This is what our Druzzya-Chinesezi "break" on, not to mention the Indians and others .. Thais laughing
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 February 2016 18: 10
    +1
    Our tanks are the best. The T-90 will frolic a little more in Syria, and there will be no release from buyers. And then the striped-eared thundered tank units of Iraq, and spoiled the reputation of our seventy twos.
    1. hartlend
      hartlend 9 February 2016 18: 28
      +1
      The Abrams had enough problems in Iraq. And with complete superiority in the air, you can smash everything, Syria is a living example.
    2. the most important
      the most important 9 February 2016 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And then the striped-eared thundered tank units of Iraq, and spoiled the reputation of our seventy twos.

      they traded mostly 55 matches, but bought the generals .... that’s the whole formula for success.
  10. hartlend
    hartlend 9 February 2016 18: 26
    0
    They are interested, they are not interested, they are again interested. Trying to bring down the price.
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 February 2016 19: 26
    +1
    Thais, like girls: buy, then do not buy ....
  12. samoletil18
    samoletil18 9 February 2016 19: 47
    0
    Yesterday I don’t think, today I think. Some camomile ©.
  13. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 9 February 2016 21: 37
    0
    They did not wait for the Strongholds, so they became interested. What Bastions May Be When the Revolution! Gilyak! Yanukovych is a thief! Who will jump higher! laughing

    The only Oplot tank produced for Thailand in 2015. At the same time, insiders write that "to date (December 4, 2015), the only assembled "Oplot" from the next batch has not yet passed military acceptance, therefore it cannot be considered produced. So there will be no "Oplot" party in March or early April"