Thai Defense Ministry admitted that it is interested in Russian T-90

Thai War Department intends to soon purchase new overseas Tanks, and shows interest in the Russian T-90, transmits RIA News Statement by the representative of the Army Command Vintkhay Suvari.

Children's Day in Bangkok, January 9 2016

Earlier, the Thai military denied media reports about the plans of the country's defense minister to begin negotiations with the Russian side on the acquisition of armored vehicles.

Suvari explained that “a temporary commission for the acquisition of tanks is being created in the military department, which will review vehicles manufactured in different countries and report to the government on its considerations on the acquisition of tank vehicles.”

“The decision on which tanks to acquire will be made by the commission, taking into account the advantages of all possible options, based on the principles of cost efficiency and openness of the transaction,” he added.

The minister himself had previously explained that during his visit to Moscow, he would inspect Russian cars, but it was too early to talk about their purchase.

Nowadays, the military regards them as contenders for the purchase of 3 type tanks: the Russian T-90 and the Chinese MBT 3000 and VT-4.

Comments

[Thunderbolt]

I realized this yesterday. Like, it's just that their minister will attend the bridegroom of our "harsh Ural guy." Like, so ... he'll look half-eyed --- purely out of natural curiosity. What can I tell you, Thais --- We must take !!!

[Kars]

The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

[Thunderbolt]

Probably they didn’t agree on any terms of the order and delivery. It’s usual business. And now ... you know yourself. By the way, Kars, at what price your tank was bought by Thais (per unit).

[Kars]

Quote: Thunderbolt

A common thing. And now ..., well, you understand

Something it reminds me of Peru. And there T-90 was there even during testing.

[cniza]

Tricky and cautious, especially after the contract with Ukraine, they will now look and bargain for a long time ...

[kil 31]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Probably they didn’t agree on any terms of the order and delivery. It’s usual business. And now ... you know yourself. By the way, Kars, at what price your tank was bought by Thais (per unit).

Not cheap with that quality. Even Ukraine refused to buy into the troops.

The cost of the new BM Oplot under a 2009 contract for the supply of 10 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 29,5 million hryvnias per unit. The export price of the new Oplot-M under the contract for the supply of the Royal Thai Army is about $ 4,9 million per unit as of 2011.

The first, and perhaps the most important reason for Ukraine is the price. According to Ukroboronprom, Oplot exported at $ 4,9 million apiece. The cost of Bulat is about $ 1 million. But they cost the Ministry of Defense even cheaper, since the department does not buy a tank, but pays only for the modernization of the machine from its reserves.

There is no information on how much it costs to upgrade one T-64 in open sources. According to Biryukov, the cost of one "Hold" is comparable to the price of modernization of ten T-64.

[Kars]

Quote: keel 31

Not cheap with that quality.

And what is already data on quality problems?

[kil 31]

Quote: Kars

Quote: keel 31

Not cheap with that quality.

And what is already data on quality problems?

Not fur water. I will not approve "Oplot". But in the net there are a lot of stuffing, about poor quality armor and constant problems with the transmission. Maybe it's fakes.

[Kars]

Quote: keel 31

ro poor quality armor and constant problems with the transmission

about BM Oplot? I have never seen. Like complaints from Thailand where the first five have been in operation for more than a year.

[Just me]

So 10 tanks, what complaints? Two years manual assembly practically With all due respect to Morozov Design Bureau, in a country where 25 years have not been invested in science, there can be no breakthrough solutions. Have you learned to make trunks or use the Urals from the damned communique past?

[Kars]

Quote: Simple

So 10 tanks heh what complaints Two years manual assembly practically

Quote: keel 31

Not cheap with that quality.

here it is necessary to decide.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Kars

The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

Burnt on the "Oplot", they blow on the T-90.

Agree that after such an experience of cooperation with a reliable European partner, involuntarily you will measure seven times.

[tol100v]

Quote: Alexey RA

Agree that after such an experience of cooperation with a reliable European partner, you will inevitably be measured seven times.

We also have experience with reliable Customers! But as they say for one beaten - they give two unbeaten!

[APASUS]

Quote: Kars

The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

Thais are not rich people, they will now look at every nut along the way, once they have already bought a "pig in a poke".

[Kars]

Quote: APASUS

Thais people are not rich

It is strange then that they initially bought BM Oplot at 4 a million dollars, and not T-90 for 3

[Turner38]

Apparently someone STRONGLY recommended purchasing Oplot at 4, and today "small but 3" ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Kars

Quote: APASUS

Thais people are not rich

It is strange then that they initially bought BM Oplot at 4 a million dollars, and not T-90 for 3

The cost of the new BM Oplot under a 2009 contract for the supply of 10 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 29,5 million hryvnias per unit. But due to lack of funding, the supply of weapons has been suspended. The export price of the new Oplot-M under the contract for the supply of the Royal Thai Army is about $ 4,9 million per unit as of 2011.

http://military-informant.com
It seems like a mistake turns out with a price

[Kars]

Quote: APASUS

It seems like a mistake turns out with a price

Who?

As you know, on September 1, 2011, Ukrspetsexport Group of Companies signed a contract with the operational management of the Royal Thai Army worth more than $ 240 million to supply Thailand with 49 new Oplot tanks and two armored recovery vehicles based on them by the end of 2014.

[Alekseev]

Quote: APASUS

Thais people are not rich

And it’s not completely independent in terms of procurement of arms and military equipment.
After all, they were strongly advised to purchase MBT in Ukraine ...
However, this is the case for everyone - not only TTX and the price of arms and military equipment are taken into account when concluding such contracts.
And they would have bought it if the Ukrainians managed to find some more old T-80UD and podshamanit them. But ... due to a number of well-known circumstances, it is not fate.

[SRC P-15]

Thai Defense Ministry admitted that it is interested in Russian T-90

And what did they lose interest in Ukrainian tanks ?:

[Kars]

Quote: Alekseev

After all, they were strongly advised to purchase MBT in Ukraine ...

And who told you this? On the basis of what such conclusions were made?
How did such a non-independent country buy the Strela MANPADS and Mi-17 in the Russian Federation? Or buy Chinese armored personnel carriers?

[APASUS]

Quote: Kars

How such an independent country purchased MANPADS Strela and Mi-17

So the Americans buy MI17 for their operations in Afghanistan and what does this mean? that they are also not independent?

[Kars]

Quote: APASUS

So the Americans buy MI17 for their operations in Afghanistan and what does this mean? that they are also not independent?

Well, this is not a question for me. So if the United States buys Mi-17 why Thailand can not buy BM Oplot?

[Altona]

Quote: Kars

The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

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What's with the Thai "Strongholds" by the way? The strongholds are solidified.

[Kars]

Quote: Altona

What's with the Thai "Strongholds" by the way?

yes everything is as always
November 1, 2011

According to confidential information obtained from trustworthy sources in Kiev, Ukrspetsexport received a notification from the Thai Defense Ministry about the suspension, due to force majeure, of the contract for the supply of another batch of armored personnel carriers and the complete termination of the contract for the supply of 49 Oplot tanks. According to other sources, Thailand is planning an urgent purchase of Russian helicopters, PTS-4 floating transporters manufactured by Uralvagonzavod Corporation (the quantity in both cases is not specified), medical equipment and rescue equipment manufactured by the USA, Canada and Sweden.

Quote: Altona

Bastions paid

Have you seen the roots of money transfers?

[self-propelled]

Quote: Kars

The third time already)) Well, they in Nizhny Tagil at the defense expo did not inspect that they are still telyatsa))

to promise is not to marry. so here - to look closely does not mean to buy. market-competition-value (and a bunch of factors in the flesh before who sponsors the deal and who sponsors the country ...) let's be pragmatists. time will tell "who is who" and who needs it ...

[Proxima]

Arms exporters know a very interesting rule. The higher the prestige of the state they represent, the greater the volume of sales. So, let's hope that there won't be another staff reduction at Uralvagonzavod.

[Denis Obukhov]

well, if their life was not taught on Ukrainian tanks, then let them buy Chinese, at least cheaper to scare people and delight their citizens with huge iron. But Thailand is unlikely to wage a real war, so the T-90 is for Syria, Iraq, for those who are fighting seriously

[Thunderbolt]

For the future, they are stocking up. Suddenly, the Chinese will begin to misbehave. So at least some opportunity to hold out longer until the allies come up.

[Vladimirets]

"Chinese MBT 3000 and VT-4."

Both remodelers, what to expect from them?

[tomket]

Quote: Vladimirets

Both remodelers, what to expect from them?

Suddenly, Thailand will again step on the same rake and chase after savings)

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Vladimirets

what to expect from them?

Maybe low prices? The Chinese love dumping.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Maybe low prices? The Chinese love dumping.

Well, if the guys are not at all naive, then they will read about the condition and price of the service from the Chinese.

[Kars]

Quote: Vladimirets

Both remodelers, what to expect from them?

And the funny thing is that this is the same tank.)))

it is strange that the Thai military official does not know this))

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Kars

And the funny thing is that this is the same tank.

Thank you, I didn’t.

[johnny]

T-72 in the skin of Abrams
the Chinese rarely come up with their own ...

[sever.56]

Take it - you won't regret it! Russian means "excellent"!

[Magic archer]

T-90’s strange competitors! Why are Thais considering these tanks as competitors? It seems to me that they want to save .. Western competitors are more expensive as one

[donavi49]

Meanwhile, it seems that the transfer of the Arab coalition to Jordan has begun. Columns of transporters with Oshkosh are already in the country going north to Syria.
https://twitter.com/WarfareWW/status/696996038398373888


Taking into account the words of Davutoglu - "We will repay our historical duty. Once our brothers from Aleppo defended our cities - Sanliurfa, Gaziantep, Kahramanmaras (during the First World War - ed.), Now we will protect the heroic Aleppo. Behind his defenders, all of Turkey"

It is quite realistic that they will climb immediately from the South and the North.

[APASUS]

Quote: donavi49

It is quite realistic that they will climb immediately from the South and the North.

I understand that Jordan has no problems at all?
Allowing foreign troops into their territory and opening a second front, all of this is strange. Jordan’s politics do not have sharp distortions, so this is why it still hasn’t collapsed, but now it’s rushing into the arms of the SA and why?
The opinion of our Israeli interlocutors on this matter is very interesting, they are closer, and indeed they have been boiling in this boiler for 50 years

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: donavi49

to jordan

They can concentrate aviation on Jordan airfields. It would be imprudent to use armored vehicles without air cover if they were going to fight.

Quote: donavi49

brothers from Aleppo

Here, Ottoman, what I thought of what times I remembered ...

[flSergius]

Well done! No need to complex and shy of their desires, if they are sound)))))

[asadov]

do not break, Thais. Take not regret it.

[vglazunov]

The sale of defense is the goal of disarming the army and navy of Russia. Tell me why the Indians and other British colonies need tanks and planes to eliminate the defense potential of Russia or the weapons of ISIS. And who are the moneylenders, these are Jews like Mendel and Rotenberg, and other enemies of the Russian people.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: vglazunov

Tell me why the Indians and other British colonies need tanks and planes to eliminate the defense potential of Russia or the weapons of ISIS.

As I understand it, the regular Pakistan-Indian wars have passed by you? As well as the traditional rivalry of India and China, also not without its military conflicts?
And yes Indians arming ISIS - this, perhaps, will be more abrupt than the rabbi performing the prayer. India has had friction with Muslims throughout its independence. It is enough to recall at least how Pakistan was formed ... or how some people overcame Bangladesh.

[vglazunov]

Where are we and where is India? Where did the aircraft carriers sell out? Are partners or friends? 500 tons of uranium is a gift from Yeltsin?

[Dewa1s]

partners are not friends and not enemies. These are sources of financing.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: vglazunov

Where are we and where is India? Where did the aircraft carriers sell out?

India currently our ally who distracts the packs.
For the aircraft carriers, say thanks to the Navy and SovMin of the USSR, who laid the boats with enviable tenacity, not providing them with a normal basing.

Quote: vglazunov

500 tons of uranium is a gift from Yeltsin?

This is a nuclear strike on the American mining and chemical industry, from which it has not recovered so far. At the time of signing the agreement, the Yankees planned to switch to centrifuges. But cheap Russian uranium killed these plans in the bud - why pay a lot for your own when you can quickly and cheaply buy someone else's. And then it was too late ...

[vglazunov]

Through the Indians and other partners, we merge the defense industry before the onset of PendoNATO, this is clear to everyone.

[Cat man null]

Quote: vglazunov

Through the Indians and other partners, we merge the defense industry

Yeah .. that's something Chinese engines will not reproduce in any way .. and after all "full technology transfer" was hot, no?

And the Hindus against the Chinese - well .. "like a carpenter against a joiner" (c)

Quote: vglazunov

it is clear to everyone except idiots who have not grown up and not received education in the USSR

You would be more careful with the terminology, dear .. we can still measure who has what .. education (I, too, "from those times", if that).

[vglazunov]

Dear, I just know that the new engines are those old NZs from the time of the USSR, which are assembled from sets stolen at the factory. Many specialists who designed and finished them in the next world.

[Cat man null]

Quote: vglazunov

Dear, I just know that the new engines are those old NZs from the time of the USSR, which are assembled from sets stolen at the factory

And such here too? No need .. dirt ..

[vglazunov]

The Ufa Engine-Building Production Association ... I’m just in the know, the turbines specialist himself, debugging is not a simple matter. Previously, the factory workers tried to sell shovels from special materials to the left, like they caught :)

[Cat man null]

Quote: vglazunov

debugging is not easy

Just about ...

This is what our Druzzya-Chinesezi "break" on, not to mention the Indians and others .. Thais

[Mountain shooter]

Our tanks are the best. The T-90 will frolic a little more in Syria, and there will be no release from buyers. And then the striped-eared thundered tank units of Iraq, and spoiled the reputation of our seventy twos.

[hartlend]

The Abrams had enough problems in Iraq. And with complete superiority in the air, you can smash everything, Syria is a living example.

[the most important]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And then the striped-eared thundered tank units of Iraq, and spoiled the reputation of our seventy twos.

they traded mostly 55 matches, but bought the generals .... that’s the whole formula for success.

[hartlend]

They are interested, they are not interested, they are again interested. Trying to bring down the price.

[Zaurbek]

Thais, like girls: buy, then do not buy ....

[samoletil18]

Yesterday I don’t think, today I think. Some camomile ©.

[Gormenghast]

They did not wait for the Strongholds, so they became interested. What Bastions May Be When the Revolution! Gilyak! Yanukovych is a thief! Who will jump higher!

The only Oplot tank produced for Thailand in 2015. At the same time, insiders write that "to date (December 4, 2015), the only assembled "Oplot" from the next batch has not yet passed military acceptance, therefore it cannot be considered produced. So there will be no "Oplot" party in March or early April"