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US Navy can not identify the causes of dizziness arising from pilots F / A-18

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Specialists of the US Navy can not determine the causes of dizziness arising from the pilots during the piloting of deck F / A-18, reports RIA News Post Military.com.




This problem exists with 2009. Pilots repeatedly had to land planes when they began to show signs of oxygen starvation.

The resource, citing data from the Pentagon, notes that "100-20 cases of dizziness occur in 30 thousands of flight hours." As Rear Admiral Manazir stated at the congressional hearings, "even one case is unacceptable because it can lead to the loss of an aircraft."

“These conditions disorient the pilots, the lack of oxygen can lead to a drop in productivity,” writes the publication. In this case, the experts even developed a special procedure.

“We could not identify them (problems), we are chasing ghosts. The problem cannot be identified because the available monitoring tools are not on board the aircraft and cannot establish whether this is due to the fact that there is more oxygen than necessary, or less than necessary, or the presence of carbon monoxide or poisonous gas, ”the admiral said .

According to him, "it is necessary to completely replace the oxygen monitoring system," but the funds "will be allocated only after testing the new system in 2017 year."

“The Navy is training pilots, artificially creating a lack of oxygen so that the pilots are familiar with the symptoms, can recognize them in the future and use the emergency oxygen supply system. However, the emergency reserve will be enough for a maximum of 20 minutes, and the pilot may not have enough time to return to the ship, ”the article says.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 9 February 2016 12: 39
    30
    Maybe from a sense of own power? laughing
    1. Rostov Papa
      Rostov Papa 9 February 2016 12: 44
      29
      And from looking at oneself in the mirror they all faint ...
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 9 February 2016 13: 01
        15
        In the rearview mirror, when the lips begin to tint during flight! wassat

        PS:
        US Navy Specialists Can't Find Out the Causes of Dizziness
        but note that this happens mainly with blond pilots! laughing
        1. Cherpak
          Cherpak 9 February 2016 16: 43
          +1
          Pregnant on the go :)
        2. Cherpak
          Cherpak 9 February 2016 16: 43
          0
          Pregnant on the go :)
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 9 February 2016 13: 07
        +8
        Well, if the pilots were women, then I would say why sudden dizziness can occur. And about the men? Although, in a tolerant country ...
      3. 70BSN
        70BSN 9 February 2016 13: 25
        +6
        Yes, because he will remember who is waiting for him to faint right away at home!
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 9 February 2016 12: 47
      14
      Quote: Thrall
      Maybe from a sense of own power? laughing

      You need to feed them normally, as expected according to the flight norm. Competent American comrades should immediately and mercilessly stop the theft of food in the dining rooms for pilots of deck aviation! bully
      1. PKK
        PKK 9 February 2016 13: 00
        +2
        Yes! Enough cook carrier, hang up for .., so the dizziness will stop. Thank you send to the editorial office.
        1. Altona
          Altona 9 February 2016 16: 23
          0
          Quote: PKK
          Enough cook carrier hang for

          -------------------
          The aircraft carrier is probably still a cook, not a cook. And so that the pressure does not drop, you need to eat chocolates.
      2. dakty
        dakty 9 February 2016 17: 11
        0
        Yes, she, you just need them to open the cockpit lantern when landing to ventilate - I guarantee that everything will be fine! ...
    3. Samen
      Samen 9 February 2016 12: 49
      +5
      Maybe from a sense of own power?

      Everything is simpler: you need to eat less whiskey in your spare time on duty! drinks
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 9 February 2016 12: 54
        +2
        Yes, just somewhere the production technology was changed, but it turned out to be a "jamb". Until the planes actually start falling because of this, it is unlikely that they will fix anything ...
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 9 February 2016 13: 23
          12
          Quote: PKK
          It’s enough that the cook of the aircraft carrier hangs over ..,
          And if this cocoa turns out to be Segal? He will not be given alive. Yes, and in general ... you can also scoop ladle! laughing
          1. soldat74
            soldat74 9 February 2016 14: 01
            +2
            And based on the fact that this guy likes Russia and Russians!
    4. Furious bambr
      Furious bambr 9 February 2016 13: 09
      0
      Elementary, Watson - High laughing
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 9 February 2016 13: 21
        +1
        Quote: Furious Bambr
        Elementary, Watson - High

        Are you afraid of heights? wassat
    5. Navy7981
      Navy7981 9 February 2016 13: 28
      +2
      yeah, ... "dizziness with success" ...
      1. RussiaSILA
        RussiaSILA 9 February 2016 13: 37
        +3
        “Even one case is unacceptable, because it can lead to the loss of an airplane”


        Nobody thinks that they can lose the pilot ...
    6. roman_pilot
      roman_pilot 9 February 2016 13: 43
      +1
      Apparently from happiness!
    7. soldat74
      soldat74 9 February 2016 14: 30
      0
      As a classic would say: "Open the window, come on! There is nothing to breathe!"
      1. marna
        marna 9 February 2016 15: 06
        +2
        Maybe they turn their heads, they are waiting for our SU-27 ...
    8. torp
      torp 9 February 2016 19: 02
      0
      Or maybe they are pregnant? belay
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  3. BLOND
    BLOND 9 February 2016 12: 41
    +2
    A resource citing the Pentagon’s data notes that “100-20 cases of dizziness occur per 30 thousand flight hours


    ... probably from success laughing
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 February 2016 13: 24
      0
      Quote: BLOND
      ... probably from success

      From exclusivity. As they think about it, immediately head round. How they still didn’t cut their noses on the stairs belay . Or is it hiding? laughing
    2. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 9 February 2016 13: 33
      0
      That is, you want to say 20-30 cases successfully completed the pilot task
      wassat
      Cool for 100 thousand flying hours ...
  4. Sura
    Sura 9 February 2016 12: 42
    +3
    Well, judging by the way Psaki and others like him come to high posts in the United States in recent years, then nothing is understandable, they are the same in other sectors, just in aviation, especially in the marine, it manifests itself right away laughing
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 February 2016 12: 42
    0
    The head was spinning at the poor fellow! Maybe ammonia? Flying flyers! laughing
    1. Monos
      Monos 9 February 2016 13: 25
      11
      Well no! It’s clear that the Russians again mischief.
      1. soldat74
        soldat74 9 February 2016 14: 06
        +1
        Have you noticed that they are being pulled for any reason? And if God forbid, the Russian plane will slip past! There is generally a guard. After that, it’s not that there is not enough oxygen, so you have to poison the cabin. laughing
  6. The black
    The black 9 February 2016 12: 43
    +7
    let them read Stalin .... "Dizzy with Success" .... laughing (joke)
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 9 February 2016 13: 18
      0
      Quote: Black
      let Stalin read

      Intercepted, in solidarity.
  7. mark2
    mark2 9 February 2016 12: 44
    +3
    “The Navy conducts pilot training, artificially creating a lack of oxygen, so that pilots are familiar with the symptoms, can recognize them in the future and use the emergency oxygen supply system. However, the emergency reserve will last a maximum of 20 minutes, and the pilot may not have enough time to return to the ship. "


    Or maybe you should think about solving the problem with the supply of oxygen? AND? What kind of oxygen generators can be installed, or can more oxygen tanks be installed? Let them think ...
    1. PKK
      PKK 9 February 2016 13: 02
      +1
      We don’t need it. Let the pilots of theirs understand that they are not shining.
    2. Altona
      Altona 9 February 2016 16: 21
      +2
      Quote: mark2
      Or maybe you should think about solving the problem with the supply of oxygen? AND? What kind of oxygen generators can be installed, or can more oxygen tanks be installed? Let them think ...

      --------------------
      It is necessary to drive the pilots themselves in a centrifuge, maybe this vestibular apparatus can not cope. Check how they withstand the load. Still, a dive is not a pound of raisins, there is probably an overload of 7-8g. And what kind of cabin is there? Sealed or what? Oxygen equipment and air sensors. On the Raptor, the same problem, only with climb above 6900 meters associated. There, kapets, the pilot has nothing to breathe.
  8. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 9 February 2016 12: 46
    +4
    Yes, with their pilots constant problems regardless of the plane. That dizziness, then about ... when our closer to them fly up laughing
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 February 2016 12: 48
    +2
    It is strange that American experts still can not figure out the reasons, but are waiting for the receipt of money in 2017. The position is purely capitalist: there is no funding - there is no work. And possible aviation emergency are fading into the background.
  10. faridg7
    faridg7 9 February 2016 12: 49
    +3
    Here they live - their SPECIALISTS already simply can’t figure out the health status of the deck pilots. This is what awaits us if our state continues to pursue educational reforms by looking at Western examples.
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    2. faridg7
      faridg7 9 February 2016 12: 57
      +1
      In general, there are few cases of such a raid. Interestingly, they tried to compare such cases with tasks to intercept our strategists? Maybe the guys were just so intimidated that at the sight of our strategist they had an overdose of adrenaline? So there is not enough oxygen in the tanks for such intense work of exceptional super-warriors.
  11. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 9 February 2016 12: 49
    +5
    Specialists of the US Navy can not establish the causes of dizziness arising from pilots


    American Navy? Girls on the ship? Dizziness? Toxicosis, however.

    1. faridg7
      faridg7 9 February 2016 13: 03
      +5
      Damn, handsome, it would be a pity to smear this, and what to do is vrazhin.
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 9 February 2016 20: 36
        +2
        Quote: faridg7
        Damn, handsome, sorry

        Do not worry so, on the monitor this is just a point smile
  12. hrapon
    hrapon 9 February 2016 12: 50
    0
    In fact, these are menopausal signs: dizziness, headache, problems with self-esteem. In one word: "Sorry, honey, my head hurts ..."
  13. VP
    VP 9 February 2016 12: 52
    0
    In a whisper: for dope, check out the flyers whirling
  14. sir_obs
    sir_obs 9 February 2016 12: 56
    23
    Here is the solution, they apparently do not go to VO.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 9 February 2016 17: 43
      0
      laughing laughing laughing Well, just to tears !!!
  15. Temer
    Temer 9 February 2016 12: 57
    0
    Or maybe it's all about training personnel?
  16. salad
    salad 9 February 2016 13: 02
    0
    There should be some stew and not chips before the flight wassat
  17. Hooks
    Hooks 9 February 2016 13: 05
    +1
    I apologize for my French, I think that the reason for the dizziness of their flyers is that our VKS are turning them on ... (kukan)! And so, most likely, they saved on breathing equipment and warmed up on it was not sickly. And now: Who, who did it !?
  18. Neko75
    Neko75 9 February 2016 13: 05
    +1
    You need to fly from Budun. Not used to them ...
  19. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 9 February 2016 13: 09
    0
    this is due to the exclusivity of the nation dizziness
  20. Barnaul, Altai
    Barnaul, Altai 9 February 2016 13: 14
    +1
    Dizziness, then nausea ...
    After gays were allowed to serve in the US Army - everything becomes clear!
    PREGNANT WOMEN!
  21. Papapg
    Papapg 9 February 2016 13: 15
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Thrall
    Maybe from a sense of own power? laughing

    You need to feed them normally, as expected according to the flight norm. Competent American comrades should immediately and mercilessly stop the theft of food in the dining rooms for pilots of deck aviation! bully

    It’s time to turn to Russia for flight rations, and how can our pilots pour 100 grams of People’s Commissars and warn them if they don’t learn the name "People's Commissars" will not be poured. They have problems with both equipment and personnel, everyone is already tired of fooling around in a circle.
  22. shelva
    shelva 9 February 2016 13: 19
    0
    Like that crow - "the breath stopped in the goiter." They praised themselves.
  23. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 9 February 2016 13: 19
    +1
    Maybe because eat deliciously and sleep sweetlyinstead of training?

    The mechanisms of adaptation to moderate periodic hypoxia have long been well known.

    The Navy conducts pilot training, artificially creating a lack of oxygen, so that pilots are familiar with the symptoms, can recognize them in the future and use the emergency oxygen supply system. However, the emergency reserve will last a maximum of 20 minutes, and the pilot may not have enough time to return to the ship


    If hypoxia is moderate and the body is adapted, then an emergency system will not be needed. If hypoxia is acute, then no additional feed will help; not dizziness will be, but instant swoon.
  24. Victor-M
    Victor-M 9 February 2016 13: 20
    +1
    US Navy can not identify the causes of dizziness arising from pilots F / A-18

    Get drunk before flying mayonnaise with ketchup, but with cola, and then gladik head starts spinning. laughing
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 February 2016 13: 27
      0
      Quote: Victor-M
      and then the gazler begins to spin.

      And in the stomach is boiling, and in the look of longing. lol
  25. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 9 February 2016 13: 42
    +3
    Just something indescribable. To solve this great problem, you need one engineer and a couple of thousand dollars for components. You can literally glue the atmosphere composition sensor in the cockpit with memory for the entire flight with your left foot. All solutions are there. All the blocks, ready, just take it. It is necessary to collect them and test them all.
    That is, there was a problem. Solving it is worthless. But if you wait until it ripens, and it’s better to kill several people, then apparently a billion or two can be attributed to the decision. But what about the pilots? And what about the pilots? Even now they are dying for corporate profits, so no difference.
  26. engineer74
    engineer74 9 February 2016 13: 59
    0
    Putin is to blame for everything! No options! wassat
    They will explain everything with the cyberattack of Russian KGB hackers and fix everything in a couple of years for 5-8 billion evergreens!
  27. ship
    ship 9 February 2016 14: 22
    +3
    The problem is not new. About 30 years ago, there was an article of similar content in the "Military Foreigner". After serious examinations of the pilots, it was found that some of the pilots had an "imperfect neocortex", i.e. they had too much for such work of pathological cells of the cerebral cortex.
    Not every one is suitable for flights, even if all the tests passed successfully.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 9 February 2016 14: 57
      +1
      This is one of the reasons, within the framework of what I also meant. However, hardly anyone would really like to see and solve this problem. Moreover, on this discussion platform the level of "plus and minus signs".
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 9 February 2016 15: 07
      0
      Quote: brod
      some pilots had an "imperfect neocortex"

      But during training on other types of aircraft this did not occur? Why? Are the flight conditions on this particular type so different from the rest?
    3. Igor V
      Igor V 9 February 2016 16: 26
      0
      "Foreign military review" is meant? smile
  28. Velizariy
    Velizariy 9 February 2016 14: 42
    0
    Yes, everything is simple! After takeoff, a message arrives that if it flies badly, then gasoline / kerosene will cost as in Russia, and the difference with the current price will be covered by its RFP.
  29. Signaller
    Signaller 9 February 2016 15: 10
    +2
    Yes, this is nonsense. The plane lands on the deck. When you hit it, a micro-concussion occurs. Doctors will probably say something more specific. Then braking the plane with the pilot. Slowing down with an acceleration of 4 ji or more, again everything presses on the brain. And so every flight day. And then talk about a lack of oxygen ??? Well this is above the roof. Then a normal brow will actually blow the roof. And the trained one, like a pilot, will certainly not take down the roof, but the brain will not work normally.
  30. Signaller
    Signaller 9 February 2016 15: 18
    +1
    Yes ... Sorry. Forgot to add. When taking off, similar parsley. Acceleration on a steam catapult is also 4 or more JI. And so on the flight schedule. Take-off landing. Here, if only our conditions are Chocolate-People’s Commissars. And they have something like cola, beer-soft. . The person is not restored. Brothels on aircraft carriers have not yet been invented.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 9 February 2016 15: 49
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      Brothels on aircraft carriers have not yet been invented.


      Come on! And why then on the aircraft carrier so many female personnel, if not for the sexual relaxation of valiant pilots?
  31. sergi801
    sergi801 9 February 2016 15: 24
    0
    Maybe just amerikos window vent for ventilation in the cockpit hood gash ??? :)))
  32. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 9 February 2016 15: 46
    0
    "The US Navy is unable to identify the cause of the dizziness experienced by F / A-18 pilots"

    Lenin wrote about this in his time. It is called "dizziness with success." It is treated by knocking down the horns.
  33. Igor V
    Igor V 9 February 2016 16: 28
    0
    "... we're chasing ghosts ..."
    They all seem to be dizzy.
  34. KOMA
    KOMA 9 February 2016 16: 43
    0
    There is nothing to write sms in smartphones on the move, cradles them!
  35. iouris
    iouris 9 February 2016 18: 00
    +1
    Those whose heads are spinning are written off from flight work. If you want, let through the commander-in-chief of the videoconferencing contact the Institute of Biomedical Problems.
  36. TOR2
    TOR2 9 February 2016 20: 51
    +1
    They learned how to make helmets that cost an indecent amount, and to make the onboard computer control the condition of the pilot, this is apparently considered an overkill.