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From Korea in a big way

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The next day, after testing a North Korean launch vehicle, the DPRK patrol ship defiantly entered the territorial waters of South Korea. It is obvious that the South Korean government will not leave a series of such provocations unanswered. Seoul also began negotiations with the Americans on the deployment of THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System) batteries in Korea. It is difficult to imagine that there are any American agents of influence in Pyongyang, but his actions so far fully meet the interests of the United States who are ready to make the most of what is happening to realize their own goals.




The first goal is simple: under the guise of a threat from the DPRK, move the first line of missile defense to the borders of China. If we speak in the language of comparisons, the way missile defense systems were built in Europe under the pretext of protection against Iran, and Syria is now occupied for high reasons of fighting ISIS *, the DPRK will be used as a scarecrow in the Far East with completely different goals. Not surprisingly, the diplomats of the People’s Republic of China immediately responded by publicly expressing their concern. The cause of the alarm is obvious. If for SM-3 interceptor missiles deployed on destroyers in Japan, the response time is short enough, then the appearance of interceptor missiles in Korea makes it simply prohibitively short. Even if initially this system will not be able to knock down Chinese ICBMs, then in the future it can be replaced with something more deadly, and at the same time it can also place complexes in places where no North Korea even smells. For example, on the southern island of Jeju.

From Korea in a big way


The second goal is to create conditions for a conflict of medium or high intensity, which will be a real gift of fate for the United States and a headache for Japan and South Korea, whose rearmament programs are designed for at least 2020 of the year. However, the unpreparedness of Seoul and Tokyo hardly worries anyone in this particular case.

The third goal is even more global. The creation of military tension in such an important region automatically heats the situation in the world as a whole according to the multiplication effect. In 2010, the Korean crisis could not become a pretext for a world war, as the situation remained relatively stable in other regions. Now that famous events in Ukraine and the Middle East have created a truly pre-war atmosphere, the conflict in the Far East may simply blow up the situation. Unlike LIH, North Korea is a system player (UN member), although its place in this very system is very peculiar. And when a system player plays aggravation, it always causes much greater instability than similar actions of the player non-system.

There are more fundamental points that work on escalation. All the major powers of the region today are plunging into a systemic crisis. This is true for China, Japan, Russia, North and South Korea, and even the United States, which, although not belonging to East Asia geographically since 1946, is politically present. A crisis everywhere has a different form and a different degree of bitterness. Total economic recession - there is only one form of it. Although China reduces the yuan, and Japan introduces a negative interest rate, all these desperate measures are unlikely to produce results. The recession is not of a financial nature, and this is a general crisis of development: the socio-political model, culture, and public purpose. The easiest way out of this crisis is war. It will either completely reformat the existing model, or provide the old system with new resources for survival and development.

The topic of a systemic crisis is especially acute for the DPRK. Economic reforms (approximate analogue of the Lenin NEP) of Pyongyang gave a very limited effect and, in fact, failed. The reason for the failure is simple: for a more radical change in the economy, you need a transformation and a political model, a departure from dogma, and this is already dangerous for the regime itself. At the same time, economic collapse is also dangerous for the state system. The main source of currency for Pyongyang - the export of ore to China - will gradually dry up. Not because Beijing will impose any sanctions, but banal because of the industrial decline in the Middle Kingdom. The collapse that awaits North Korea in such conditions can lead to anything. Koreans are a patient people, but their patience will end one day. The threat of a coup in the DPRK does not disappear anywhere either: it is for this reason that Kim Jong-un is not leaving the capital for a long time, not to mention foreign trips.

Ideologically, the North Korean regime has long come to a standstill. Bravura slogans about the future unification of the country, which has been sounding for a decade, have not inspired anyone for a long time. There is no economic growth either. In North Korea, more and more people learn about how ordinary citizens live in neighboring China, moreover, information begins to penetrate the Celestial Empire and about the economic miracle of South Korea. In such conditions, a local war for Kim Jong-un becomes almost the only salvation, even if you eventually have to give up some border areas. History knows a lot of examples when politicians who lost the war ultimately remained in power and even strengthened in it.

And finally. If you build a system of coordinates regarding the security of Russia, the DPRK in such a system does not threaten our country. The crisis or even a full-fledged war on the Korean Peninsula is a strictly peripheral conflict for Russia, worthy of attention only because of the relative proximity to Vladivostok and the unlikely prospect of using two or three low-power nuclear charges on the battlefields. There will be a war, big or small, of course, but it will take place in a completely different place.

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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 06: 42 New
    +7
    The author Igor Kabardin is not recommended for reading ....
    1. larand
      larand 9 February 2016 09: 10 New
      +6
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      The author Igor Kabardin is not recommended for reading ....

      As a world community, it is strange that the Russian Federation, among other things, got excited and went into hysterics. Why, a small country surrounded by sanctions, with a backward planned economy and “ideologically drugged” managed to create a ballista and launch a satellite. In general, it is really surprising, maybe the Juche ideas do contain a grain of reason?
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 9 February 2016 10: 01 New
        +8
        Quote: larand
        In general, it’s really amazing, maybe the Juche ideas contain a rational kernel?


        And you go, a couple of years to learn Juche ideas in practice, and then come back and tell how it is.
      2. i80186
        i80186 9 February 2016 12: 15 New
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        Quote: larand
        As a world community, it is strange that the Russian Federation, among other things, got excited and went into hysterics. Why, a small country surrounded by sanctions, with a backward planned economy and “ideologically drugged” managed to create a ballista and launch a satellite. In general, it is really surprising, maybe the Juche ideas do contain a grain of reason?

        For example, if one such thing, with the 20th ct on board, lands in Seoul, the second in Tokyo, then everyone knows the Juche idea. There, the last time, when they fought a little, the losses on both sides exceeded five million, and that’s just the military, civilians do not count. What will happen is now scary to think.
        1. atalef
          atalef 9 February 2016 12: 23 New
          -11 qualifying.
          Quote: i80186
          For example, if one such thing, with the 20th ct on board, falls to Seoul, the second to Tokyo, then then everyone knows the Juche idea

          Including S. Korea, it will be crushed into powder
          Quote: i80186
          There, the last time they fought a little, losses on both sides exceeded five million

          Now there will be more, maybe nothing will remain from S. Korea
          And all such modes (as history has shown) fall apart within a few days)
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 9 February 2016 13: 34 New
            +5
            Including S. Korea, it will be crushed into powder


            Rather, they will first be ground to powder, and then yaren loaves will fall in Seoul and Tokyo. However, the Chinese will not allow the destruction of the DPRK. They don’t talk about anything else - this is a springboard for an attack on China.

            Now there will be more, maybe nothing will remain from S. Korea


            Come on? In the DPRK, there are no megacities that can die out on their own from feedlessness and the destruction of infrastructure, and destroying the rural population is already genocide.
          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 9 February 2016 13: 36 New
            +7
            Quote: atalef
            Including S. Korea, it will be crushed into powder

            And who will wash the DPRK into powder?
            Is the terrible and fearless Israeli regime? smile
            And in the meantime:
            After the launch of the North Korean satellite, the DPRK Embassy in Russia made a statement that Pyongyang will continue the program of sending spacecraft
            http://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/8219921.shtml
            Quote: atalef
            Now there will be more, maybe nothing will remain from S. Korea

            What an aggressive Israeli.
            And if the DPRK hits nuclear facilities (nuclear power units) in the South Caucasus of which about twenty pieces, what will happen?
            Or do you want this in Israel - mountains of corpses all over the Earth and the formation of the Great and Mighty Israel from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean.
            DPRK Foreign Ministry: nuclear forces are the only way to prevent war with the United States
            Measures to strengthen the DPRK's nuclear forces "serve as the only means capable of preventing a war with the United States due to lack of trust" between the two countries. This is stated in a statement by a representative of the DPRK Ministry of Foreign Affairs, published in local newspapers, TASS reports.
            The document emphasizes that a nuclear deterrent force was created in the DPRK "to counter the nuclear threat from the United States." The statement also said that Pyongyang is making efforts to resume negotiations on the nuclear issue of the Korean Peninsula.
            http://www.zakon.kz/4716191-mid-kndr-jadernye-sily-sluzhat.html
            1. atalef
              atalef 9 February 2016 13: 45 New
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              Quote: quilted jacket
              And who will wash the DPRK into powder? Is the terrible and fearless Israeli regime?

              No cowardly states

              Quote: quilted jacket
              Meanwhile: After the launch of the North Korean satellite, the DPRK Embassy in Russia issued a statement that Pyongyang will continue the program of sending vehicles into space

              Of course, she put a bolt on
              The actions of the DPRK, which launched a ballistic missile with a satellite, lead to a serious aggravation of the situation in Northeast Asia, a statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Sunday.

              "We are forced to state that Pyongyang did not heed the calls of the international community, once again demonstrating defiance of the norms of international law," the Foreign Ministry said.

              Quote: quilted jacket
              And if the DPRK hits nuclear facilities (nuclear power units) in the South Caucasus of which about twenty pieces, what will happen?

              The scribe will come to S. Korea

              Quote: quilted jacket
              Or do you want this in Israel - mountains of corpses all over the Earth and the formation of the Great and Mighty Israel from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean.

              From the Pacific to the Pacific
              Quote: quilted jacket
              DPRK Foreign Ministry: nuclear forces serve as the only means of preventing a war with the United States Measures to strengthen the DPRK's nuclear forces "are the only means capable of preventing a war with the United States due to lack of trust" between the two countries. This is stated in a statement by a representative of the DPRK Ministry of Foreign Affairs, published in local newspapers, TASS reports.

              The Russian Foreign Ministry has a different opinion on this

              Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Igor Morgulov and South Korean Foreign Ministry Special Envoy for Peace and Security on the Korean Peninsula Hwan Zhong Guk expressed concern over the DPRK hydrogen bomb test in a telephone conversation. This was reported on the website of the Russian diplomatic department.


              “On both sides, serious concern was expressed in connection with the test of the hydrogen bomb declared by the DPRK authorities. It is noted that North Korea’s actions aimed at developing its nuclear potential flagrantly violate relevant UN Security Council resolutions

              Original news RT in Russian:
              https://russian.rt.com/article/140625

              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 9 February 2016 14: 19 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                No cowardly states

                Do you think people in the USA live without brains and they will be substituted for nuclear weapons?
                I doubt very much.
                Quote: atalef
                Of course, she put a bolt on

                What are you belay is it possible that the DPRK forbade someone to launch satellites into space more quickly show me such a UN resolution.
                By the way - JAPAN TESTING BALLISTIC ROCKETS !!!!!(apparently to create a BR and subsequent strike on neighboring countries)
                Japan launched four satellites into space
                JAXA, a Japanese space agency, said it successfully launched an H2A rocket with four artificial satellites.
                This is the fifteenth successful launch of an H2A rocket, according to a space agency.
                Quote: atalef
                From the Pacific to the Pacific

                I knew that the Israeli "blue dream" is the destruction of all human lives on Earth, of course, except for Jewish lives and the creation of Great Israellol
                Quote: atalef
                The Russian Foreign Ministry has a different opinion on this

                Nonsense is this, after recent and previous nuclear tests, we also expressed concern, so what?
                Or do you think Russia at the official level should have praised the DPRK and Un?
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                2. atalef
                  atalef 9 February 2016 14: 27 New
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                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Do you think people in the USA live without brains and they will be substituted for nuclear weapons? I doubt very much

                  No, they will calmly wait. while Eun still something somewhere smells

                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Why, are you really DPRK forbade someone to launch satellites into space quickly show me such a UN resolution.

                  Indeed, why the Russian Foreign Ministry is outraged and soared about this. Tell it to Lavrov
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  I knew that the Israeli "blue dream" is the destruction of all human lives on Earth, of course, except for Jewish lives

                  Not only on Earth, but also in the observable universe
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Nonsense is this, after recent and previous nuclear tests, we also expressed concern, so what?


                  Nothing, Eun put this on
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Or do you think Russia at the official level should have praised the DPRK and Un?

                  No, while the only one who praises her for this (for putting a bolt on Russia’s condemnation) is you.
                  Well, that’s understandable if Iran condemned you’d be a mountain behind them, and so the Russian Foreign Ministry - what does this have to do with you request
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 9 February 2016 14: 52 New
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    No, they will calmly wait. while Eun still something somewhere bahny

                    They will definitely wait for a war against a nuclear power; they will not start the only thing they can do is try to organize a coup in the country.
                    Quote: atalef
                    Indeed, why the Russian Foreign Ministry is outraged and soared about this

                    So it is not particularly steamed and Russia, too.
                    Quote: atalef
                    Not only on Earth, but also in the observable universe

                    Optimists you however smile
                    Quote: atalef
                    No, while the only one who praises her for this (for putting a bolt on Russia’s condemnation) is you.

                    Why not praise them then? People are tearing into space. I personally will be pleased to know about the first DPRK astronaut.
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, that’s understandable if Iran condemned you’d be a mountain behind them, and so the Russian Foreign Ministry - what does this have to do with you

                    But for Iran, why should it be condemned to launch an artificial Earth satellite, all who can launch why it is impossible to North Korea?
                    For example, the Israeli regime that has nuclear weapons and launched more than one war in the region and also continues the occupation of Palestine and territories of other countries, can launch ballistic missiles with satellites?
                    It looks like this aggressive territorial entity called Israel is preparing attacks on its neighbors smile
                    Israel launched a spy satellite
                    Israel launched the Ofek-5 reconnaissance satellite. In Hebrew, "ofek" means horizon.
                    The country's authorities announced the launch of a rocket with a satellite from the Palmachim Air Force Base, located on the seashore south of Tel Aviv.
                    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/russian/news/newsid_2013000/2013601.stm
                    Israel launched a spy satellite into space
                    The Israeli military sent into space another intelligence satellite Ofek-10, RIA Novosti reported.
                    Ofek-10 is the latest model of the Ofek satellite series, which is being developed by Israel Aircraft Industries Corporation.
                    The satellite was launched from the Palahimim Air Force Base, south of Tel Aviv, using the Shavit booster rocket.
                    http://techno.bigmir.net/discovery/1571456-Izrail-zapystil-v-kosmos-spytnik-shpi
                    on
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                    2. atalef
                      atalef 9 February 2016 15: 02 New
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                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      They will definitely wait for a war against a nuclear power; they will not start; the only thing they can do is try to organize a coup in the country

                      flip the bobblehead laughing
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      So it is not particularly steamed and Russia, too.

                      Well, it’s right that before the statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, you’re an idle talk. Now, if Iran is yes
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      Optimists you however

                      Почему нет?
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      Why not praise them then? People are tearing into space. I personally will be pleased to know about the first DPRK astronaut.

                      Of course, you’re on the drum that the leadership of the Russian Federation does not like it. You don't give a damn about it
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      But for Iran, why should it be condemned to launch an artificial Earth satellite, all who can launch why it is impossible to North Korea?

                      Really, Russia doesn’t like it, Iran - like it - a brain rupture, yes Vatnik?
                      You live in the Russian Federation. from the Iranian hand you feed
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      For example, the Israeli regime can launch ballistic missiles with satellites?

                      And the Russian Federation does not condemn it
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      It looks like this aggressive territorial entity called Israel is preparing attacks on its neighbors

                      Yes, today again Hezbollah in Syria was bombed
                      The Qatari Al-Jazeera TV channel reports that on the night of Tuesday, February 9, Israeli air force fighters attacked militants of the Lebanese Hezbollah group on the Damascus-Homs highway, in the Al-Katif area.

                      and the S-400 was neither used nor condemned - probably from the point of view of the Russian Federation - this is normal, but what about you? Padded jacket?
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 9 February 2016 15: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, it’s right that before the statements of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, you’re an idle talk. Now, if Iran is yes

                        Yes, so most likely there will be condemnation and extreme concern.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Почему нет?

                        Of course, of course, apparently, people are listening to you and anti-Semitism is growing even in the USA smile
                        Quote: atalef
                        the leadership of the Russian Federation does not like this.

                        This is the leadership of Russia, and most likely Putin himself apparently told you? laughing
                        Quote: atalef
                        Really, Russia doesn’t like it, Iran - like it - a brain rupture, yes Vatnik?

                        Why brain rupture? Everything goes the way the main thing is that the US and Israel regimes do not like it.
                        Quote: atalef
                        You live in the Russian Federation. from the Iranian hand you feed

                        He invented it or who suggested it?
                        Unlike you, I don’t go to the site as a job, but here you are clearly getting paid from the orthodox from morning till night smile
                        Quote: atalef
                        And the Russian Federation does not condemn it

                        You see, the United States raised a cry differently - the DPRK launched a satellite, but there’s nothing to worry about and think about whether they want to send the astronaut well and we had to react.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Yes, today again Hezbollah in Syria was bombed

                        Quote: atalef
                        The Qatari Al-Jazeera TV channel reports that on the night of Tuesday, February 9, Israeli air force fighters attacked militants of the Lebanese Hezbollah group on the Damascus-Homs highway, in the Al-Katif area.

                        Yes, the Qatari Canal of Al Jazeera - frankly speaking, strong information like Israeli Debka is the same liarlol
                      2. samuil60
                        samuil60 9 February 2016 23: 51 New
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                        Guys, why are you fighting? Even if someone really likes the DPRK and its handsome leader, only a naive person can talk about a nuclear clash between the DPRK and the United States. Still, facts are a stubborn thing, and comparing the military potential of these two countries - maybe, well, perhaps a schoolboy or, at worst, a housewife. Indeed, in the event of a direct military conflict, the ENTIRE military-technical potential of the DPRK will most likely be destroyed in a few hours, or at most a day. To the applause and general approval of the "world community". Therefore, all slogans about a victorious war with the United States exist in Korea exclusively for "local use". The DPRK is like a fox terrier that stands in front of the Alabai and growls - everything here depends only and exclusively on the Alabai ...
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          4. Lord blacwood
            Lord blacwood 9 February 2016 22: 47 New
            0
            But the DPRK has nothing but nuclear weapons. In the event of war, he will be destroyed, but before that he can destroy at least several million people.
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    2. Barnaul, Altai
      Barnaul, Altai 9 February 2016 13: 31 New
      0
      The Russian Federation was aroused to a large extent because it was blamed on us for helping to create a quick rocket ...
      Although the main beneficiary here is obvious ...
  2. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 10: 05 New
    -4
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    The author Igor Kabardin is not recommended for reading ....

    I join, Yurich. Pearl about what DPRK will be used as a scarecrow especially pleased. Along the way, the SK itself digs a cesspool, where sooner or later, with the hooting of the entire democratic public, it is successfully thrust into it. Together with an arsenal.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 9 February 2016 07: 00 New
    +2
    I’ll come home today, I’ll check the dosimeter and chemg just in case.
    Because if a drink near Vladik, you will have to wait a long time for help.
  • qwert
    qwert 9 February 2016 07: 03 New
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    Stumble. If a country is experiencing new weapons, then it exacerbates the situation, etc. Even provided that this country is periodically threatened. A type of sovereign country cannot do such things. Already got these double standards. And the Japanese generally fell below the baseboard. From a once proud and warlike nation, the Americans turned them into figs knows what.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 10: 17 New
      0
      Quote: qwert
      From a once proud and warlike nation, the Americans turned them into figs knows what.

      and what events have contributed to this do not remember?
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 9 February 2016 12: 11 New
      -7
      Quote: qwert
      Stumble. If a country is experiencing new weapons, then it exacerbates the situation, etc. Even provided that this country is periodically threatened. A type of sovereign country cannot do such things. Already got these double standards. And the Japanese generally fell below the baseboard. From a once proud and warlike nation, the Americans turned them into figs knows what.

      With the DPRK, this is really so. Why do you think everyone, including Russia, is twitching? Because the DPRK, in trying to attract attention and provide cookies, was used to using rather non-standard methods. Somehow the nuclear tests, the bombings of the ships of South Korea, the laying of mines in the demilitarized zone, and other cute charms. Therefore it makes everyone nervous
    3. atalef
      atalef 9 February 2016 12: 29 New
      -4
      Quote: qwert
      Stumble. If a country is experiencing new weapons, then it exacerbates the situation, etc.

      not . Of course, eOa detonates a thermonuclear charge and launches ICBMs - solely out of a desire for technological progress.

      Quote: qwert
      Even provided that this country is periodically threatened

      Who? So far I have not seen a single statement by the United States that they will erase S. Korea from the face of the earth, but S. Korea announces this almost daily
      Quote: qwert
      Already got these double standards. And the Japanese generally fell below the baseboard.

      Well, of course, it's because they blow up Ya. Charges and threaten S. Korea almost daily
      Quote: qwert
      From a once proud and warlike nation, the Americans turned them into figs knows what.


      Indeed, under Reagan, dust from S. Korea’s factories would have long remained.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 9 February 2016 13: 39 New
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        not . Of course, eOa detonates a thermonuclear charge and launches ICBMs - solely out of a desire for technological progress.


        Well, probably out of the same desire for progress as Israel has its own nuclear weapons and its armed forces. That's just the Americans do not help Kimas. Therefore, it’s so hard for them to do it all.

        Who? So far I have not seen a single statement by the United States that they will erase S. Korea from the face of the earth, but S. Korea announces this almost daily


        Well, sanctions, apparently, are no longer a threat. North Korea is still not Russia, it is sensitive for them.

        Well, of course, it's because they blow up Ya. Charges and threaten S. Korea almost daily


        No, it’s just that they have been suffering occupiers on their territory for half a century.

        Indeed, under Reagan, dust from S. Korea’s factories would have long remained.


        I understand that there was Reagan, but no dust.
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  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 9 February 2016 07: 19 New
    0
    And finally. If we build a coordinate system relative to the security of Russia, then the DPRK in such a system does not threaten our country in any way. The crisis or even a full-fledged war on the Korean Peninsula is for Russia a strictly peripheral conflict, worthy of attention only because of the relative proximity to Vladivostok and the unlikely prospect of using two or three low-power nuclear weapons on the battlefields

    Well, excuse me, it looks somehow amateurish!
    The war in the Donbass means arch-important, and the nuclear conflict at hand near Russia is a peripheral conflict.
    Article minus.
  • Blondy
    Blondy 9 February 2016 07: 44 New
    +2
    And finally. If you build a system of coordinates regarding the security of Russia, the DPRK in such a system does not threaten our country. The crisis or even a full-fledged war on the Korean Peninsula is a strictly peripheral conflict for Russia, worthy of attention only because of the relative proximity to Vladivostok and the unlikely prospect of using two or three low-power nuclear charges on the battlefields. There will be a war, big or small, of course, but it will take place in a completely different place.

    Well, if you look from Moscow, of course, it is not worthy of attention, but what about those who look from Vladiaostok?
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 10: 06 New
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      Quote: Blondy
      how to be the one who looks from Vladiaostok?

      and from Vladik look with hope at the Japanese. As always.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 9 February 2016 13: 40 New
        +2
        and from Vladik look with hope at the Japanese. As always.


        Follow the words. Although I am not from Vladik, but from Khabarovsk, I think that for Muscovites this all refers to Zamkadye.
  • Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 9 February 2016 08: 17 New
    -3
    Quote: chikenous59
    And finally. If we build a coordinate system relative to the security of Russia, then the DPRK in such a system does not threaten our country in any way. The crisis or even a full-fledged war on the Korean Peninsula is for Russia a strictly peripheral conflict, worthy of attention only because of the relative proximity to Vladivostok and the unlikely prospect of using two or three low-power nuclear weapons on the battlefields

    Well, excuse me, it looks somehow amateurish!
    The war in the Donbass means arch-important, and the nuclear conflict at hand near Russia is a peripheral conflict.
    Article minus.

    Well, the Far East is far from the capitals, for that it is the Far.
  • kirgudu
    kirgudu 9 February 2016 08: 45 New
    +5
    There is a strong suspicion that North Korea acts to please the United States. This justifies NATO bases, missile defense, and exercises on the Korean peninsula. Thus restraining China and Russia.
    Look for someone who benefits from creating tension.
    1. AK64
      AK64 9 February 2016 09: 28 New
      0
      Add to this the love of Disneyland ....
    2. AK64
      AK64 9 February 2016 09: 28 New
      0
      Add to this the love of Disneyland ....
    3. atalef
      atalef 9 February 2016 12: 38 New
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      Quote: kirgudu
      There is a strong suspicion that North Korea acts to please the United States.
      This justifies NATO bases, missile defense, and exercises on the Korean peninsula.

      It’s just that many people think that S. Korea’s pushing toward the USA will in no way affect Russia’s own security.
      The presence of nuclear weapons in S. Korea leads to adequate answers from the USA and South Korea to Japan
      1. Program about.
      2. The presence of US potential in South Korea
      3. Increase in military potential of Japan
      4: Additional U.S. Navy Forces Off the Coast
      5. Difficulties in negotiations on nuclear demellitization of Japan and South Korea and missile defense systems
      All this will lead to a forced response and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Russia will not be able to react to the presence of nuclear weapons in this region and missile defense systems.
      This is an extra trump card in the hands of the United States - because they will calmly declare that this is an answer to S. Korea’s nuclear weapons.
      This is the extra costs, billions and billions that will leave the economy in the sun and all this hemorrhoids
      -- on the empty place .
      Iza for the inadequacy of the UN.
      Someone thinks that because of the nuclear weapons of the UN, the living standards and safety of Russians will increase - it is deeply mistaken.
      Continue to applaud.
      1. Barnaul, Altai
        Barnaul, Altai 9 February 2016 13: 37 New
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        I would also add: by unnerving China and Japan, the Koreans are forcing South K and the Japanese to intensify.
        And who benefits from strengthening our neighbors and against whom?
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 9 February 2016 13: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: Barnaul, Altai
          who benefits from strengthening our neighbors and against whom?

          "If you have paranoia, this does not mean that you are not being watched" (c)

          You are our conspirator .. homegrown .. negative
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 9 February 2016 13: 44 New
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        Alexander, hi

        The phrase amused:

        Quote: atalef
        This is an extra trump card in the hands of the United States - as they will calmly declare that this is an answer to S. Korea’s nuclear weapons

        I remember that EuroPro was made as a "response to the threat from Iran" .. which, as it were, did not exist at all ..

        And so - yes they can say anything they want, it’s not necessary to answer for the bazaar request
        1. atalef
          atalef 9 February 2016 13: 47 New
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          Quote: Cat Man Null
          I remember that EuroPro was done as a "response to the threat from Iran" .. which, as it were, did not exist at all .. And so - they can say anything they want, it is not necessary to answer for the market

          Well, about S. Korea and the subsequent deployment of missile defense, the RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not have any questions.
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      3. alicante11
        alicante11 9 February 2016 13: 48 New
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        1. Program about.


        Yes, for God's sake, too south to intercept our ICBMs.

        2. The presence of US potential in South Korea


        But shaw, in Japan is not enough? A couple of megatons more, a couple less, we do not have many cities here, enough for everyone in any situation.

        3. Increase in military potential of Japan


        I just see how the "turtles" of Li-Sun-sin, ugh, you, Kim-Jong-un drown the entire Japanese fleet and land hordes of hungry "kims" on the paradise islands of Yamato. Isn't it funny yourself? What is there to threaten the Japanese with? The maximum that is needed is a coastal flotilla and a short-range air defense missile defense system.

        4: Additional U.S. Navy Forces Off the Coast


        So they are so close - Okinawa or even in Japan itself.

        5. Difficulties in negotiations on nuclear demellitization of Japan and South Korea and missile defense systems


        Yes figs with them, let them indulge. If you have nowhere to go. How many wolves do not feed, anyway the bear is thicker.

        All this will lead to a forced response and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Russia will not be able to react to the presence of nuclear weapons in this region and missile defense systems.


        The DPRK forces, which do not threaten Russia at all, are a drop in the bucket among all the well-wishers nearby. Therefore, even paying attention to Kim's childhood pranks would be foolish. And if the amers need reasons to increase their contingent, they will find it. For example, that the GDP is corrupt and the Far East needs to be rescued from him urgently, until it is plundered with oligarch friends. What is not a reason?
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        2. atalef
          atalef 9 February 2016 13: 56 New
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          Quote: alicante11
          Yes, for God's sake, too south to intercept our ICBMs.

          & ?????
          Quote: alicante11
          But shaw, in Japan is not enough?

          There will be more
          Quote: alicante11
          that's how I see the "turtles" of Li-Sun-sin, ugh, you, Kim-Jong-un drown the entire Japanese fleet and land hordes of hungry "kims" on the paradise islands of Yamato. Isn't it funny yourself? What is there to threaten the Japanese with? The most you need is a coastal flotilla and short-range air defense missile defense.

          Japan will build up its military potential, do you think Russia will not have to take adequate measures?
          Quote: alicante11
          Yes figs with them, let them indulge. If you have nowhere to go. How many wolves do not feed, anyway the bear is thicker

          Indeed, only thicker at whom?
          Quote: alicante11
          The DPRK forces, which do not threaten Russia at all, are a drop in the ocean among all the well-wishers

          And these ill-wishers will arm themselves even more - will the Russian Federation have to answer or not?
          Quote: alicante11
          Therefore, even paying attention to Kim’s pranks would be foolish


          Nuclear weapons and ICBMs are childish jokes, it would be interesting how the Russian Federation would react if S. Korea declared that she wants to wipe it off the face of the earth? And why should the US in this case be silent?
          Quote: alicante11
          And if the amers need reasons to increase their contingent, they will find it.

          And with SK, you don’t need to look for them
          Quote: alicante11
          For example, that the GDP is corrupt and the Far East needs to be rescued from him urgently, until it is plundered with oligarch friends. Why not a reason

          What do we smoke?
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 9 February 2016 16: 11 New
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            There will be more


            But shaw, in Japan is not enough? A couple of megatons more, a couple less, we do not have many cities here, enough for everyone in any situation.


            Japan will build up its military potential, do you think Russia will not have to take adequate measures?


            And these ill-wishers will arm themselves even more - will the Russian Federation have to answer or not?


            What's the point? You won’t be strong everywhere. After Serdyukov, the Russian Federation has a professional army strategy, which by definition cannot be large. So the maneuver rules, and the development of transport infrastructure to ensure it is very useful and profitable. And if money goes to the Pacific Fleet, this is only a plus for the Far East.

            Indeed, only thicker at whom?


            We have a clear day.

            Nuclear weapons and ICBMs are childish jokes, it would be interesting how the Russian Federation would react if S. Korea declared that she wants to wipe it off the face of the earth? And why should the US in this case be silent?


            Would twist a finger at the temple.

            And with SK, you don’t need to look for them


            Come on, we care about "partners" so that they don't strain in search :).

            For example, that the GDP is corrupt and the Far East needs to be rescued from him urgently, until it is plundered with oligarch friends. Why not a reason
            What do we smoke


            Never mind. Amer is not the first time to unleash a war for reasons sucked from the finger. Maine, Powell's test tube, "genocide" in Kosovo, etc.
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  • AK64
    AK64 9 February 2016 09: 28 New
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    This Troll is a Disneyland lover - a banal provocateur working in the USA: he always does exactly what is needed at the same time for the USA.

    While the real threat to the United States from him, of course, is not and will not be the slightest
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 10: 15 New
      -4
      Quote: AK64
      This Troll is a Disneyland fan

      Yes, in fact, like all the kings of such a blow, Eunushka has a secret passion for everything American.
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 9 February 2016 10: 05 New
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    Then yesterday, in one article, it was written that S. Korea is a puppet of China, to which it was China that delivered both nuclear weapons and the missile that they launched the other day. And China needed the launch of the rocket in order to keep its neighbors and the United States in suspense. This means that China has been too clever and has created problems for itself with these missile defense systems on its border.
    1. Kibalchish
      9 February 2016 10: 42 New
      +1
      Not a puppet. Pyongyang depends on the Chinese market, yes, but it builds its own policy.
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 11: 07 New
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        Quote: Kibalchish
        Pyongyang depends on the Chinese market, but it builds its own policy.

        What is it like? Paradox...
        1. Kibalchish
          9 February 2016 11: 23 New
          +3
          Have you forgotten Romania in the social camp?

          Or Yugoslavia. What is a paradox too?
          1. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 11: 28 New
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            Quote: Kibalchish
            in the social camp

            as I understand it, now the "socialist camp" consists of one member?
            And what does Yugoslavia and Romania have to do with it?
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 9 February 2016 12: 21 New
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              Quote: Zeppelin ml.
              as I understand it, now the "socialist camp" consists of one member?

              Of the two members - North Korea and Cuba, but a member of Cuba is already slowly bending. smile
              1. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 12: 24 New
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                Quote: Bayonet
                Of the two members - North Korea and Cuba

                Hi Sasha. Formally - yes, Cuba is fastened in. But, as you rightly remarked -
                Quote: Bayonet
                Cuba is already slowly bending.

                with a set of revolutions.
              2. atalef
                atalef 9 February 2016 12: 41 New
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                Quote: Bayonet
                Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                as I understand it, now the "socialist camp" consists of one member?

                Of the two members - North Korea and Cuba, but a member of Cuba is already slowly bending. smile

                And S.Korei has long been wrinkling.
                But he thinks to raise Viagra in the form of nuclear weapons.
                Only they completely forgot that when decrepit old people use Viagra, a member may raise it, but die from a heart attack.
                1. Zeppelin ml.
                  Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 12: 57 New
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                  Quote: atalef
                  But he thinks to raise Viagra in the form of nuclear weapons.
                  Only they completely forgot that when decrepit old people use Viagra, a member may raise it, but die from a heart attack.

                  funny allusion)
                  Some strange impression that the whole world is facing an enclosure with Koreans and is watching with interest their ritual dances, being absolutely sure of the reliability of the barrier)
                  1. Bayonet
                    Bayonet 9 February 2016 20: 27 New
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                    Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                    It’s a strange impression that the whole world is facing an enclosure with Koreans and is watching with interest their ritual dances,

                    And local cheers-patriots also beat a tambourine! Look at us as minuses thrown, defenders of New! laughing
            2. alicante11
              alicante11 9 February 2016 13: 51 New
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              as I understand it, now the "socialist camp" consists of one member?


              Two - still Cuba, the rest were surrendered by the corrupt elite. By the way, this speaks in favor of Kimov and Castro, not traitors at least.
              1. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 14: 01 New
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                Quote: alicante11
                the rest were handed over by the corrupt elite.

                evon how. Only the elite? And, therefore, "the people are silent" (according to the classics)? And the sabbaths on the streets, velvet and not very revolution?
                1. alicante11
                  alicante11 9 February 2016 16: 14 New
                  -1
                  evon how. Only the elite? And, therefore, "the people are silent" (according to the classics)? And the sabbaths on the streets, velvet and not very revolution?


                  The people are also to blame. But only that he did not strangle this corrupt elite in time. We pay the price for passivity. Well, a VERY small part of the people participates in the "velvet" revolutions. Mostly hysterical intellectuals, idle drunks and reckless youth. There are always not so many of them.
              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 9 February 2016 19: 40 New
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                Quote: alicante11
                Two - still Cuba, the rest were surrendered by the corrupt elite ..

                But Cuban President Raul Castro says the time has come to “renew the Cuban economic model.” In turn, the leader of the Cuban revolution, Fidel Castro, in an interview with the American magazine "The Atlantic" said that the state in the "Cuban model" plays "an excessively large role in the economic life of the country." In your opinion traitors? One you are so right and fat Eun - at least put it in a frame and hang it in the red corner! smile
                1. alicante11
                  alicante11 10 February 2016 05: 14 New
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                  But Cuban President Raul Castro says the time has come to “renew the Cuban economic model.”


                  And who is against the "update"? I am against "destruction".
  • aviator1913
    aviator1913 9 February 2016 10: 32 New
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    It seems to me that everyone is playing their game, but this is only the United States on hand. They are benefited by the bravado regime of North Korea, the constant provocations on their part, because even China offered the North Koreans to cancel the launch of the ICBMs. Russia also asked not to do this, not to mention Western countries.

    It turns out that it is profitable for the enemies of the United States to do what is beneficial for the United States, namely to escalate tensions and scare the planet with their nuclear manners.

    It is beneficial for South Korea to have a missile defense against Eun provocations. Plus, if they decide to war, the presence of at least some kind of umbrella can hedge them. They know that the Western world will support them if something happens.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 10: 46 New
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      Quote: aviator1913
      Plus if they decide to war

      what a hell of a war? Little Eun, even in the presence of China as a "gray guarantor" and ICBMs of dubious quality, will never dare to do anything serious, except for border pushing towards the South Caucasus. Well, the Pyongyang Film Factory will churn out belligerent five-minute funnel-based commercials on Pennsylvania Avenue.
      1. atalef
        atalef 9 February 2016 13: 01 New
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        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        except border flailing towards the South Caucasus. Well, the Pyongyang Film Factory will punch warlike five-minute videos with a funnel on Pennsylvania Avenue

        Why only this? Did not hear that the last World Cup won the UK?
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          2. atalef
            atalef 9 February 2016 13: 23 New
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            quote = Zeppelin-ml.] [quote = atalef] last World Cup won by SK? [/ quote]
            shine. U made my day, thnx much. [/ Quote]
            well, please one more
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      3. aviator1913
        aviator1913 9 February 2016 14: 18 New
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        Little Eun, even with China as a "gray guarantor" and ICBMs of dubious quality, will never dare to do anything serious


        I mean, if South Korea decides to go to war. I apologize once I didn’t write very clearly.
  • 0255
    0255 9 February 2016 10: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: kirgudu
    There is a strong suspicion that North Korea acts to please the United States. This justifies NATO bases, missile defense, and exercises on the Korean peninsula. Thus restraining China and Russia.
    Look for someone who benefits from creating tension.

    Quote: AK64
    This Troll is a Disneyland lover - a banal provocateur working in the USA: he always does exactly what is needed at the same time for the USA.
    While the real threat to the United States from him, of course, is not and will not be the slightest

    Do not dare to blame the great sun-faced leader adored in VO, accusing him of working in the USA laughing
    But seriously, I also have similar thoughts, I doubt that the United States is directly afraid of North Korea with its ancient technology. We would like to bomb - we would have done it long ago, without any UN permission. If Kim foolishly uses nuclear weapons, they will erase him into powder, neither Russia nor China will protect him.
  • flSergius
    flSergius 9 February 2016 10: 56 New
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    Now CNN is shaking and hissing with anger, declares that
    North Korean satellite tumbles in orbit, making its operation impossible

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/08/asia/north-korea-rocket-launch/
    Just like a bazaar woman, she can’t calmly accept someone else’s success, don’t spit poison, you must definitely play it up, what kind of libel is it)) For a major publication of a state that considers itself super - // - the behavior is just shameful, which means they have been losing their nerves lately to the hegemoshi soldier After all, even if he is somersaulting there, the northern ones in the conditions of his economic blockade Launched by technology half a century ago, while the "civilized" have their high-tech explodes two out of three))))
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 11: 33 New
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      Quote: flSergius
      the northern ones, under the conditions of the economic blockade, launched it using the technology of half a century ago, and in the "civilized" their high-tech explodes two times out of three))))

      Remind you how many SCs had unsuccessful launches? Particularly impressive is the epic failure with the launch from the submarine, when debris surfaced, and the rocket never appeared. So, I would not rush to applaud their technical genius.
      Quote: flSergius
      recently give nerves at the hegemoshi
      Something is not noticeable.
      1. flSergius
        flSergius 9 February 2016 11: 51 New
        +4
        how many SC had unsuccessful launches


        So in the conditions of the blockade! For the space programs of the USSR and the USA, their entire economy worked, and these were counted on the knee.

        Something is not noticeable


        And recent impudent stuffing personally against Putin? In diplomacy, where it is customary for the enemy to shake hands and smile in a joint photo, the transition to personalities and in the official media is the height of arrogance and rudeness, unacceptable behavior, anyway, that comes to a person in the house and defecate on the carpet. If you get to this - it means they’re very nervous.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 12: 13 New
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          Quote: flSergius
          So in the conditions of the blockade!

          what blockade? It is a myth. It’s quite exported to itself - from coal, fake dollars and amphetamines to nuclear reactors, weapons and, funny as it may seem, monuments. To
          Quote: flSergius
          on the knee
          to dazzle a second-rate ICBM with a PlayStation processor is enough. People eats little, you can save on social services. But - "we make rockets." Doesn't it look like anything?
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 9 February 2016 13: 55 New
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            what blockade? It is a myth. It’s quite exported to itself - from coal, fake dollars and amphetamines to nuclear reactors, weapons and, funny as it may seem, monuments. To


            Coal goes to China. "Fake baxot" is the first time I've heard of such an export product. Nuclear reactors are clearly not in marketable quantities (by the way, where?). Weapon? Again, mostly technology. Monuments - what is it about?
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 14: 29 New
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              Quote: alicante11
              Nuclear reactors are clearly not in commercial quantities (by the way, where?).

              to where Israel successfully purchased it - to Syria.
              Quote: alicante11
              "Fake baxot" is the first time I've heard of such an export product.
              Well, in vain. Japanese equipment, French ink, paper from Hong Kong - and voila - the quality is such that the States introduce a new hundredth in circulation in 2013 laughing
              Statues are generally a song: Zimbabwe recently paid $ 5 million to order two statues of President Robert Mugabe. In general, the Juchoids have enough customers for monumental sculpture: Angola, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia and even Germany (!). But out of competition, of course, Namibia - $ 60 million for the construction of a war memorial in Windhoek. Aw, nostalgic for Mukhino hippo - this is for you laughing
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              2. atalef
                atalef 9 February 2016 14: 32 New
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                Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                to where Israel successfully purchased it - to Syria

                By the way with a few followers of Juche

                Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                Well, in vain. Japanese equipment, French ink, paper from Hong Kong - and voila - the quality is such that the States introduce a new hundredth in circulation in 2013

                Yes, they started printing on an industrial scale.
                State Counterfeiter -.
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 9 February 2016 14: 56 New
                  +3
                  Quote: atalef
                  By the way with a few followers of Juche

                  Again, you invent a reactor there and there wasn’t what the terrorists themselves proved when they seized the territory where Israel allegedly destroyed this ghostly reactor.
                  In short, another Israeli invention.
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                  2. atalef
                    atalef 9 February 2016 15: 07 New
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                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Again you invent no reactor there and there wasn’t

                    Of course there was and bombed the agricultural station

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    as the terrorists themselves proved when they seized the territory where Israel allegedly destroyed this ghostly reactor

                    IAEA Terrorists laughing
                    According to the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Yukia Amano, a nuclear reactor was secretly built in Syria. This object was destroyed five years ago in the Syrian desert by Israeli aviation, ITAR TASS reports.
                    Previously, the IAEA only assumed that the destroyed Syrian target was a nuclear facility. Amano’s statement was the first direct admission of this from the agency.
                    Syria, which since 2008 has not allowed the IAEA representatives to destroy the facility, denies that it belonged to the nuclear program, and generally denies that it carries out secret activities in this area
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 9 February 2016 15: 41 New
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                      Quote: atalef
                      Of course there was and bombed the agricultural station

                      Another Israeli fiction.
                      In Syria, the armed opposition seized the facility, which until 2007 was the construction of a nuclear reactor.
                      In Syria, opposition groups have seized the Al-Kubar military facility in the east of the country, where a nuclear reactor was under construction until 2007.
                      http://glavred.info/mir/v-sirii-povstancy-zahvatili-yadernyy-obekt.html
                2. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 9 February 2016 20: 00 New
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                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, they started printing on an industrial scale.
                  State Counterfeiter -.

                  North Korean counterfeiters got the most fame at the end of the 20th century, when the United States discovered fake hundred-dollar banknotes on the world market that were almost indistinguishable from real ones. For high quality, American financial officials even began to call them super banknotes. The United States accused North Korea of ​​producing super banknotes: this was indicated by reports of dissidents who fled the country, as well as the fact that North Korean officials abroad were caught several times when trying to pay them. According to the U.S. Treasury Department, more than two-thirds of all fake dollars circulating in the world are North Korean bills.
              3. alicante11
                alicante11 9 February 2016 16: 16 New
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                to where Israel successfully purchased it - to Syria.


                And you call this "deliveries"? One contract?

                Well, in vain. Japanese equipment, French ink, paper from Hong Kong - and voila - the quality is such that the States introduce a new hundredth in the 2013 laughing


                It’s ridiculous. But, nevertheless, it has nothing to do with export.

                Statues are generally a song: Zimbabwe recently paid $ 5 million to order two statues of President Robert Mugabe.


                Well, rich people, where are the Saudis with their oil industry ... What do you smoke (s)?
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 9 February 2016 19: 53 New
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              Quote: alicante11
              "Fake baxot" is the first time I've heard of such an export product.

              The largest source of income for North Korean leaders is drugs. Previously, North Koreans shipped mainly heroin to other countries, but after the droughts of the 1990s, which affected 7 hectares of poppy plantations, Pyongyang is increasingly selling methamphetamine that is easy to manufacture. Drugs go not only to America, China and Japan, where North Korean methamphetamine is more than a third, but also to Russia.
              In April 2003, the North Korean ship Pon Su was detained off the coast of Australia. On board were found 125 kg of heroin, the cost of which on the black market amounted to tens of millions of dollars. By the way, North Korea’s heroin production some years ago, took third place in the world after Myanmar (Burma) and Afghanistan.
              North Korean diplomats and other officials, who have to go on business trips abroad, often become "mules", that is, drug carriers. Over the past 30 years, more than 50 North Korean citizens have been caught in drug smuggling in Egypt, Venezuela, India, Germany, Nepal, Sweden, Zambia, Ethiopia, and Laos.
              1. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 22: 48 New
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                Quote: Bayonet
                The largest source of income for North Korean leaders is drugs.

                exactly. Since the 70s., Mind you) I mentioned amphetamine as an export article, but some members of the forum do not have a puzzle in their heads - Koreans and drugs ??? Danunah !!! Vovet and provocation.
        2. atalef
          atalef 9 February 2016 13: 09 New
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          Quote: flSergius
          So in the conditions of the blockade!

          What a strange blockade. He trades with the world, the border with China and Russia is open.
          Baby doll is fat and happy running.
          1. swag
            swag 9 February 2016 16: 41 New
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            In general, what is the matter of Mrs. S. Korea? Why aren’t women looking for their lost tribes? Probably, it’s haunting that there are no torches in S. Korea for days.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 9 February 2016 14: 27 New
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        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        Particularly impressive is the epic failure with the launch from the submarine when debris surfaced, and the rocket never appeared.

        And it is possible about this case in more detail, otherwise I somehow missed it.
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  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 9 February 2016 12: 45 New
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    In Korea, the United States once fought. They know what the northern part of the country is capable of, and, apparently, they fear a new war. Yes, and Russia is nearby. May not remain indifferent as it was in the case of the NATO bombing of Serbia.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 13: 02 New
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      Quote: Pvi1206
      In Korea, the United States once fought .. and, apparently, fear a new war.

      nonsense. What kind of war? With whom? With baby Eun? Come on... laughing
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Know what the northern part of the country is capable of

      and what was she capable of without the Chinese "volunteers"?
      1. viktor561
        viktor561 9 February 2016 22: 05 New
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        And what would South Korea do without the support of the United States - it would not exist at all now!
  • report4
    report4 9 February 2016 13: 41 New
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    Quote: flSergius
    how many SC had unsuccessful launches

    So in the conditions of the blockade! For the space programs of the USSR and the USA, their entire economy worked, and these were counted on the knee.

    It is useless to explain this to the local "Korea experts". Knowledge of materiel 0, but a lot of screeching.
    Well, at least the general (who, then, unexpectedly turned out to be underexposed) who had been fed up by his uncle’s dogs and the general shot from an anti-aircraft gun, had forgotten their moronic song.
    The quality of South Korea's news is somewhere at the level of current Ukrainian media. And, if only the most stubborn believe in the slops that are issued by Ukrainian media, then the delirium that pours from South Korea throughout its history - for some reason they believe in the word.
    The fact that the South Caucasus is currently occupied by the islands of the UK (in accordance with the peace treaty, they belong to the SK) and the aggressor in this case, the UK, is incredible news for them. Again, a sea blockade and sanctions on banks (and such that the bank cannot actually work in the western banking system) working with the United States from the UK. About deceiving the UK from the United States, when they refused to build a nuclear reactor, in exchange for oil supplies, after which they were thrown.
  • Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 9 February 2016 17: 09 New
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    I don’t understand the leadership of Russia, why condemn the ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORING country for the sake of a certain "world community", to which Russia was not allowed even to a cannon shot and will not be allowed until it collapses? The blocked country CREATES both rockets and satellites and an atomic bomb and a thermonuclear bomb itself! Rejoice for such a neighbor country and congratulate you on your successes! So no! Allegedly "civilized" Russia pretends that she is "concerned" ... ugh and that's it! Only FULL D.U.R.A.K will argue with a neighbor who has a gun in his hands ... this is exactly what the Russian leadership is doing now ... adding to the foolishness already done on the world stage this one ...
  • kam4atka
    kam4atka 9 February 2016 17: 36 New
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    The majority think in a stereotyped way. Great Britain, good luck to them. And ours are always "preoccupied."
    Most likely the top seized power in 91-93gg. trying to negotiate with the exceptional, and therefore concerned.
    This is looking at what is happening inside the country.
  • viktor561
    viktor561 9 February 2016 21: 47 New
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    And why not? - who banned - USA? - the world gendarmes are stuck! We and the United States divided Korea - for what? - Resist world imperialism - so now we condemn? North Korea survives and defends itself - its right! and who gave the right to oppress her - her life is the choice of the people! The people in the USA are no less zombied than the people of North Korea, if not more !!! Remove the sanctions - let them into the world community and they themselves will be determined - so no - they must be crushed and destroyed. By supporting sanctions against North Korea, we ourselves provoke sanctions against ourselves!
  • Gippo
    Gippo 9 February 2016 22: 03 New
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    Well done. It’s hard, hard, hungry, but well done.
    Remember how our nuclear shield was created.
    Watch the movie "The Taming of Fire". How quickly we forgot how we created our independence ...
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  • Lazy person
    Lazy person 9 February 2016 22: 41 New
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    North Koreans are persistent people and their leaders have what they need!
    But I wouldn’t want to live there.
  • Lord blacwood
    Lord blacwood 9 February 2016 22: 54 New
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    The DPRK has a weak economy and will eventually fall apart, but now no one will attack it, since there will be big losses among the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the United States. For example, in the 1990s, when the United States wanted to form a coalition against the DPRK, American generals said that the total losses would be no less than a million soldiers. So the US will wait. But South Korea is not economically profitable to accept the DPRK, and therefore no one will fight with the DPRK.