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The developer of armored vehicles built its own training ground near Arzamas.

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"Military Industrial Company", engaged in the development and production of armored vehicles, built in the Nizhny Novgorod region, near Arzamas, the newest firing range from weaponsmounted on armored vehicles transmits RIA News A message from the general director of the enterprise, Alexander Krasovitsky.


The developer of armored vehicles built its own training ground near Arzamas.


“Next to Arzamas we built our own firing range for armored vehicles. The project has invested about 130 million rubles, I believe that it has no analogues in Russia. There are special concrete and earthen shelters and bunkers, receiving devices, an armored vehicle can shoot through special boxes to ensure the safety of the shooting, ”the general director said.

He noted that the landfill will begin full work this month.

“The company is ready to provide landfill for rent,” Krasovitsky added.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 8 February 2016 17: 38 New
    +4
    Good thing ... I think there will not be such a training ground empty ... sorry for the details in the description is not enough to evaluate this undertaking.
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 8 February 2016 17: 41 New
      0
      The company is ready to provide a landfill for rent
      130 cartoons Beat fast!
      In the "glades" you can cover there! Corporate parties in the "Military" style.
      In the elite fun for the moneybags!
      1. Gray-haired
        Gray-haired 8 February 2016 18: 06 New
        +8
        Have you been Chaldean at the tables, or are you sharing your experiences?wink
      2. Pajamas
        Pajamas 8 February 2016 18: 57 New
        +8
        Quote: Pravdarm
        The company is ready to provide a landfill for rent
        130 cartoons Beat fast!
        In the "glades" you can cover there! Corporate parties in the "Military" style.
        In the elite fun for the moneybags!

        How old are you, you are out of your mind, a secure object should be, especially if they shoot new ammunition. You have the habits, excuse me, of a "small shopkeeper".
        1. dauria
          dauria 9 February 2016 00: 31 New
          +1
          You have the habits, excuse me, of a "small shopkeeper".


          Strange, but you were not surprised "" The company is ready to lease the landfill? "The shopkeeper is just here and advertises his" product ".
          The next one will be "The company will lease the airfield for the IAP base. Good transport interchange, not far from Moscow, inexpensive" laughing
          1. Pajamas
            Pajamas 9 February 2016 03: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: dauria
            You have the habits, excuse me, of a "small shopkeeper".


            Strange, but you were not surprised "" The company is ready to lease the landfill? "The shopkeeper is just here and advertises his" product ".
            The next one will be "The company will lease the airfield for the IAP base. Good transport interchange, not far from Moscow, inexpensive" laughing

            For rent by profile, I’m not sure that all enterprises and especially design bureaus of a similar profile have new equipped polygons, it is quite reasonable, especially for design bureaus, to test prototypes, units and assemblies, at a rented polygon. Many PNIL, research institutes, lost their training grounds and bases in the 90s.
      3. Homo
        Homo 8 February 2016 19: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Pravdarm
        130 cartoons Beat fast!
        In the "glades" you can cover there! Corporate parties in the "Military" style.
        In the elite fun for the moneybags!

        Who about what, but naked about the bath!
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 8 February 2016 17: 44 New
      +7
      About 130 million rubles were invested in the project,

      A serious investment ... I hope this is not just a fence from the netting! hi
    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 8 February 2016 17: 53 New
      +3
      A serious approach, again, you can accelerate and reduce the cost of development and testing of weapons.
    4. Gray-haired
      Gray-haired 8 February 2016 18: 03 New
      +1
      What if you are a spy! So all the secrets and give it to you right away! Crawl on your belly, peep, cut the thorn, and you will be happy! Here it is !!!fellow
    5. tol100v
      tol100v 8 February 2016 18: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      to evaluate this undertaking.

      As far as I know, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has never had a shortage of landfills! And here, please also rent! For whom and at whose expense? If the manufacturer made a landfill for himself, this is his business. And others must also accept (purchase) products at other landfills! Just a ballet is not needed!
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 8 February 2016 18: 41 New
        +2
        130 million is a couple of corporate parties. Not about that money you care. there are never too many polygons

        They will give for fuel and motor resources in the sum of 10 years more, getting to another landfill (if you think logically), and this landfill can be very close

        And it’s logical that manufacturers have their own landfills. Why are these superfluous approvals from the Ministry of Defense for use and expectations in line

        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 8 February 2016 19: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          They will give for fuel and motor resources in the sum of 10 years more, getting to another landfill (if you think logically), and this landfill can be very close

          This is if the rented "foreign" test site has all the conditions for testing: for example, accuracy and accuracy. And not just a target field in the "hit-and-fall" style, which the plant also needs to refine (and restore after each shooting by the military owners, who do not need such equipment at all). smile
          At your training site, you can organize everything as it is required specifically for testing. And not for ordinary shooting.
  2. vglazunov
    vglazunov 8 February 2016 17: 38 New
    -4
    Now it’s possible to hunt :)
    1. vglazunov
      vglazunov 8 February 2016 19: 18 New
      0
      I drank yesterday with the FSB general. Tomorrow I drink at the Admiral of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - Yuri Shevchuk DDT. Let's liberals minus :)
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 February 2016 17: 38 New
    -8
    "About 130 million rubles have been invested in the project"

    I may not understand something, but isn't it a bit much? what
    1. vglazunov
      vglazunov 8 February 2016 17: 40 New
      +2
      Now the hunt is just beginning, drink the hunt, eat the hunt ..
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 8 February 2016 17: 43 New
      +6
      Rather "not enough".
      This is not a training ground. This is a testing ground.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 8 February 2016 17: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        This is not a training ground. This is a testing ground.

        I say
        Quote: Vladimirets
        maybe I don’t understand something

        therefore I ask. There is really no data in the news. request
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 8 February 2016 19: 08 New
          +2
          Well look ...
          For example, a recent novelty is 30-mm shells with air blasting. Under them, the Rostov optical-mechanical specially created a unit for recording air blasting to assess dispersion. Obviously not for free. And we need several such systems on the strength of all of Russia. Not a mass production product.

          Therefore, the equipment of such landfills is very expensive. I'm afraid that the allocated money will be enough only for the very minimum. Look for interest how commonplace professional high-speed cameras cost.

          Moreover, one should not forget: money is not from the state. The Military Industrial Company is owned by Deripaska. And he will not throw them into the wind, he will rather save.
    3. Pajamas
      Pajamas 8 February 2016 19: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "About 130 million rubles have been invested in the project"

      I may not understand something, but isn't it a bit much? what

      If it’s not expensive in a clean field, Put electricity and water, build fortifications, build roads inside, targets, monitoring, surveillance, security systems, integrated environmental measurement equipment, if this is a testing ground, this is not just shooting and a few kilometers covered with a thorn There should be living quarters and workshops.
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 February 2016 17: 44 New
    0
    And what about the American armored personnel carrier?
    1. petrakimov
      petrakimov 8 February 2016 18: 15 New
      +1
      Standard target.
  5. Jatviag
    Jatviag 8 February 2016 17: 51 New
    +1
    What does Stryker have to do with this?
    1. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 8 February 2016 17: 56 New
      +1
      On that website? The most direct! This is a tradition, and traditions must be honored. laughing wassat
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 8 February 2016 17: 59 New
      0
      Quote: JATVIAG
      What does Stryker have to do with this?

      Designer girl. (tm) smile
    3. Lanista
      Lanista 8 February 2016 18: 02 New
      0
      The striker in this case is TARGET.
      The ground with the shooting range.
  6. tinibar
    tinibar 8 February 2016 17: 55 New
    +3
    Good news. It is felt that the Arzamans are working seriously and have invested money in the right thing. I hope this affects the quality of their equipment! Good luck
  7. triglav
    triglav 8 February 2016 17: 56 New
    0
    It's a good news.
  8. pogranicnik
    pogranicnik 8 February 2016 17: 56 New
    0
    and where to the new shooting range? Is Arzamas such a rich city?
  9. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 17: 57 New
    +1
    “The company is ready to provide landfill for rent,” Krasovitsky added.

    Something I did not understand and the Ministry of Defense does not have its own specialized training ground!? Or money to do request

    Objectives of CJSC "VPK":

    · The organization of an investment holding company based on combining the economic, scientific and technical potentials of a number of defense industry enterprises, as well as infrastructure companies providing services for the defense industry;

    · The consolidation of financial resources for the implementation of projects to acquire defense industry enterprises from disparate private owners in the interests of state holdings (integrated structures);

    · Effective restructuring of defense enterprises by coordinating their production programs, building up scientific and technical potential and financial resources for the implementation of the State armament program and export needs.

    The management of the company sees its task in creating conditions for continuous growth and improvement of the scientific and industrial-technological base; in the search, development and implementation of the most advanced management methods and economic activities; open to innovative projects.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but it's like RosNano
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 8 February 2016 18: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Something I did not understand and the Ministry of Defense does not have its own specialized training ground!? Or money to do

      And what does MO have to do with factory tests?
      This test site is specifically for factory testing of VPK products, prior to their delivery to the Customer. That is, the equipment tested on it belongs to factories, not MO.
      Examples of such a technique were last year: they posted photos of "typhoons" with civilian numbers and warships under the tricolor.
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Maybe I'm wrong, but it's like RosNano

      This is another "military-industrial complex" - Arzamas armored vehicle-building. smile
      VPK LLC works with more than 30 government customers. The main ones are the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the FSO and other power structures of the Russian Federation. The company develops, mass-produces and modernizes:

      - armored personnel carriers,
      - infantry fighting vehicles,
      - armored cars,

      which form the basis of the wheeled vehicle fleet of the ground forces of the Armed Forces and power structures of the Russian Federation, as well as the armies of more than 40 countries of the world.

      The management perimeter of VPK LLC includes the public joint-stock company Arzamas Engineering Plant (PJSC AMZ) in the city of Nizhniy Novgorod Oblast in Arzamas, the public joint-stock company Zavod Korpusov (PJSC ZK) in Vyksa and located in Nizhny Novgorod "Military Engineering Center" (LLC "VIC").

      http://milindcom.ru/
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 18: 19 New
        0
        So I made a mistake thanks for the amendment about the military-industrial complex
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 8 February 2016 18: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Something I did not understand and the Ministry of Defense does not have its own specialized training ground!? Or money to do

      The plant makes armored vehicles. The factory is not the Ministry of Defense. And how to test your products if, for example, there is no specialized testing ground nearby? Even the bald VAZ has its own testing ground for its cars.
    3. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 8 February 2016 18: 58 New
      +2
      JSC Arzamas Engineering Plant is a commercial structure.
      They know how to count their money, they know what they are doing.
      Do you think the Moscow Region would provide them with a free training ground?

      A recent example: Rzhev art. polygon.
      Last month leased:
      1,757 million rubles per month. (105,4 million rubles for five years).
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 8 February 2016 19: 11 New
        0
        Quote: KVIRTU
        JSC Arzamas Engineering Plant is a commercial structure.
        They know how to count their money, they know what they are doing.
        Do you think the Moscow Region would provide them with a free training ground?

        A recent example: Rzhev art. polygon.
        Last month leased:
        1,757 million rubles per month. (105,4 million rubles for five years).

        I wonder where the Arzamans tested their APCs before?
        Because for testing weapons, it is not necessary to use an ordinary army training ground, but an artillery training ground - to understand whether the characteristics of the tested machine’s firing weapons fit into TK or not. There are all kinds of Airborne Forces and World Warbands, operational statistics counting, accuracy with accuracy, work from the stop and in motion, etc., etc.
  10. hannibal lecter
    hannibal lecter 8 February 2016 18: 04 New
    0
    Somehow this landfill does not work in my understanding of the business. Those. a businessman has invested so much money in such an illiquid structure as a landfill. Without a preliminary order, he just sits now and waits for customers to tumble like a dumplings ... Obviously, this is another cut of budget funds and someone guaranteed him a profit before he built it. How would you like to recall the words of Vladimir Putin: "Where are the landings?"
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 18: 18 New
      0
      So I thought about the same hi
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 8 February 2016 18: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: hannibal lecter
      Somehow this training ground does not go in my understanding of business. Those. businessman invested so much money in such an illiquid structure as a landfill. Without a preliminary order, he just now sits and waits for customers to tumble down like a ravioli ... Obviously, this is another cut of budget funds and someone guaranteed him a profit before he built it.

      Profit guaranteed by the state, constantly issuing an order to Arzamas for armored personnel carriers and BA.
      The businessman asked his subordinates: what is more profitable from the point of view of the profit of "VPK" LLC - to build its own range for firing tests of equipment or constantly rent ranges from the Ministry of Defense (somehow I do not see other options for factory testing of weapons of BA / armored personnel carriers without my own range). Apparently it turned out that our own landfill is cheaper.

      And with orders, everything is simple: "Arzamas Machine-Building Plant" is a monopolist in the production of wheeled armored personnel carriers in the Russian Federation. smile
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 20: 18 New
        +1
        And with orders, everything is simple: "Arzamas Machine-Building Plant" is a monopolist in the production of wheeled armored personnel carriers in the Russian Federation.

        Since he is a monopolist, who else can rent a testing ground for wheeled vehicles? (for an armored car can shoot through special boxes to ensure the safety of firing) Tagil? St. Petersburg (Kirov Plant - T-80 tanks and self-propelled guns)? - Nizhny Novgorod (Nizhny Novgorod Machine-Building Plant - guns for BMP-3 and combat towers for SAM "Tunguska")? "Kurganmashzavod"? (all of them are not wheeled, but only one wheeled Arzamas)
        Please comment hi
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 8 February 2016 20: 33 New
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          Yes to anyone.
          For example, the Bubkin & Co corporation decided to create a combat robot. They have a tracked platform, they bought the combat module, for example, from the Belarusians. In theory, they connected it all. But where is the guarantee that after installation, the BM armament will retain the accuracy indicators within the limits required by the customer?

          The solution is simple: they buy time and services from this training ground, take their child prodigy, test, treat children's illnesses, test again, and present the finished product to the customer for a tender. In the belief that everything is within tolerance, and that they will not receive a powerful blow to their reputation.
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 20: 46 New
            0
            I decided to create, theoretically everything was connected. “The company is ready to provide a landfill for rent,” Krasouski added, that is, not only for himself hi
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 8 February 2016 21: 57 New
              +1
              It is not profitable for them to maintain the landfill exclusively for themselves, although they have a full right of ownership then private, 0% state property.

              I repeat once again, there will apparently be a bunch of test equipment and recording equipment. Expensive both in terms of procurement, and in terms of ensuring operability. And you need to beat off the money.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 8 February 2016 21: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Siberia 9444
          Since he is a monopolist, who else can rent a testing ground for wheeled vehicles?

          For example, to the Ural AZ, KamAZ or GAZ - for testing their experienced and serial armed MPMs and other wheeled armored vehicles. After all, besides armored personnel carriers, there are a lot of weapons today.

          Or to any KB developer of wheeled vehicles with weapons (with a driver or remotely controlled) - to check his experimental product, including before submitting it to the Customer.
          Quote: Siberia 9444
          St. Petersburg (Kirov Plant - T-80 tanks and self-propelled guns)?

          T-80 at LKZ has not been produced for a long time. Only the chassis on its base for various equipment.
  11. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 8 February 2016 18: 04 New
    +4
    The "Military-Industrial Company", engaged in the development and production of armored vehicles, built in the Nizhny Novgorod region near Arzamas the latest training range for firing weapons mounted on armored vehicles
    So they earn, do not live in poverty. They know better where to put the money. Well, that is not offshore. But renting out is a very interesting topic.
  12. pogranicnik
    pogranicnik 8 February 2016 18: 22 New
    0
    photo promptly changed!
  13. hobot
    hobot 8 February 2016 18: 40 New
    +1
    I think it was created for the purpose of the type of tank biathlon.
    In this case, in addition to fulfilling his main task, he will return a couple of billion to the treasury.
  14. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 8 February 2016 18: 46 New
    +1
    Times are changing, people are changing, ways of hunting are changing ...! In the 80s, on a BMP-1 run-in track in Kurgan, a relative cut off an elk from a coaxial machine gun on a night shift ... Two workshops, 360 and 370 were very pleased! Times, then were hungry ... recoursePlant veterans must remember!
  15. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 8 February 2016 19: 22 New
    +1
    Next to Arzamas we built their own shooting range for armored vehicles. About 130 million rubles have been invested in the project, I believe that it has no analogues in Russia. Special concrete and earthen shelters and bunkers, receiving devices are installed there, the armored car can shoot through special boxes to ensure the safety of firing, ”- told the CEO.

    The question is the CEO, a full businessman (read - goof), but what about the delivery of the products to you?
    Here is an example of yanking our rubles with you (as many as 130 milennas for almost 7 $ from each army). I hope comrade dear to me. Shoigu saw this material !!!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 8 February 2016 22: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      The question is the CEO, a full businessman (read - goof), but what about the delivery of the products to you?

      Most likely, they rented a training ground from the army.
      And what kind of product delivery are you talking about - the landfill is built for factory testing. Not for the military.
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Here is an example of yanking our rubles with you (as many as 130 milennas for almost 7 $ from each army). I hope comrade dear to me. Shoigu saw this material !!!

      They didn’t build a training ground - it’s bad, which means that untested equipment went into the troops.
      Deripaska built a training ground - bad, then cut and rollback.
      What a familiar training manual: Whatever is done in Russia, everything is bad and not so.
  16. afrikanez
    afrikanez 8 February 2016 19: 54 New
    +1
    All the same, we have a lot of people who are responsible and very loving their work. Well done, they even built a training ground. good
  17. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 8 February 2016 20: 22 New
    +1
    Good deal!