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Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff Muzhenko reflects on the topic of "possible personal presence" of Sergei Shoigu during the operation in Debaltseve

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The head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Victor Muzhenko, reported to the military attaches of foreign countries on the progress of his inspection visit to the Donbass, which Muzhenko continues to call the “ATO area”. According to Muzhenko, he visited several strongholds of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and found out that “the Ukrainian servicemen are motivated and ready to perform all the tasks facing them.”


UNIAN cites a statement by the head of the Ukrainian General Staff:
I have a pleasant impression of this visit. We have really motivated personnel, really professionally trained and ready to carry out all the tasks that they face.


At the same time, Muzhenko added that Kiev "will react to a surprise check of the Russian troops" near the border with Ukraine. True, the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine immediately stated that the Russian army was conducting a "readiness check in connection with large-scale exercises scheduled for the summer." That is, Muzhenko’s message, to all appearances, should be interpreted as follows: the exercises of the Russian army take place under the tireless vigil of the Ukrainian “motivated” troops, and therefore everything is under control ...

Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff Muzhenko reflects on the topic of "possible personal presence" of Sergei Shoigu during the operation in Debaltseve

Photo from October 2015. Muzhenko - right


During the same speech to foreign military attaches, Muzhenko said the following:
We have confirmed (by whom? - approx. "IN") the facts of the participation of Russian troops in the battles for Debaltseve - this is clear. Whether Russian Defense Minister Shoigu was there directly at the time, we did not have such information. But there is no doubt that everything was done with the knowledge of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

I think that all the actions of the Russian troops take place on the relevant orders and orders of the top military-political leadership of the Russian Federation.

It is strange that Muzhenko did not reflect on the topic of whether the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces Vladimir Putin was personally in Debaltseve? ..
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 February 2016 16: 34 New
    30
    "Photo from October 2015. Muzhenko - on the right"

    In the photo, the Ukrainian military (having peeped at the damned mkalivat idea) lit up the latest weapons - war koloboks. smile
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 8 February 2016 16: 37 New
      26
      You confused them with tactical colored hedgehogs, you need to know the materiel of motivated troops of Ukraine))
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 8 February 2016 16: 38 New
        11
        Quote: Thrall
        x with tactical color hedgehogs

        Hedgehog, it seems, was eaten a long time ago ... in the Moscow region for sure! laughing
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 February 2016 17: 01 New
          11
          As they are already tired, do not they really see how they look from the side, the "amusing" troops, and then they were more serious, and Muzhechko, from the magnitude of the stars, already has a hernia of the brain.
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 8 February 2016 18: 15 New
            14
            Quote: cniza
            As they are already tired, do not they really see how they look from the side of the "funny" troops and then they were more serious

            there is someone to learn from - although recourse and you won’t understand
            who is the teacher and who is the student
            ========
            video how the French media give out air strikes of the Russian aerospace forces for their
            http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=65a_1454863600
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. EvgNik
          EvgNik 8 February 2016 17: 43 New
          +6
          Quote: AlexTires
          Hedgehog, it seems, was eaten a long time ago ... in the Moscow region for sure

          And we are starving in the Urals, we have almost no hedgehogs. True, there are pigs, cows, hens and so on, even snakes, though occasionally, but they are not visible from Ukraine. So we are definitely starving. request
          1. northern
            northern 8 February 2016 19: 47 New
            +2
            We still have here on the banks of the Neva, and buckwheat and Internet coupons are issued on time, so we are welcome :-)
          2. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 8 February 2016 20: 06 New
            +2
            EvgNik "And we are starving in the Urals, we have almost no hedgehogs."
            Wait a second, what about beavers ?!)))
      2. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 8 February 2016 17: 25 New
        +8
        And Shoigu, and Putin, and Lavrov, and Medvedev. Everyone was and led.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 8 February 2016 17: 43 New
          12
          Shoigu, and Putin, and Lavrov, and Medvedev. Everyone was and led.
          all led and went on the attack themselves. bully
          Where was Muzhenko? Why not on a white horse ahead of ukrobanderlogov?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 8 February 2016 20: 33 New
            +3
            Muzhenko did not have time to mount his horse - the horse was flunked and eaten by hungry VSUshniki.
      3. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 8 February 2016 17: 26 New
        16
        It seems that there is a reason to fasten on the wretched, but there is no strength left for this. Apparently the leaders of the oldest tribe decided to take us by their antics.
      4. meriem1
        meriem1 8 February 2016 17: 29 New
        +3
        Ah ha ha !!!! Tactical hedgehogs, this is ukatayka))) Yellow-blue probably? Guessed?
        1. Darek
          Darek 9 February 2016 02: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: meriem1
          Ah ha ha !!!! Tactical hedgehogs, this is ukatayka))) Yellow-blue probably? Guessed?


          Eh ... You can’t hide anything from you, you are our informed! Only hedgehogs are not yellow-blue, but blue-yellow! Blue and yellow, understand? This is not yellow-blue for you. This is much more serious!
      5. Persistent
        Persistent 8 February 2016 19: 44 New
        +1
        Yatsenyuk opened a business incubator.
        I don’t know who he will hatch there, but the rabbit chicks will certainly surprise the world.
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 8 February 2016 16: 37 New
      12
      In my opinion, Muzhenko has a pronounced aesthetic underdevelopment, although I can be wrong and everything is much worse! smile
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 8 February 2016 16: 42 New
        +9
        Photo from October 2015. Muzhenko - right

        And from the left, glasses on his forehead climbed! It is interesting that they saw such things there in their letters, or did Putin himself call this Muzhenko? smile
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 8 February 2016 16: 49 New
          +6
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          or to this Muzhenko

          He is no longer Muzhenko, but Divchinko! Gyaky yakny garny!
          1. Roman 57 rus
            Roman 57 rus 8 February 2016 21: 13 New
            0
            It's just that these are two standard combat pidas.
      2. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 8 February 2016 16: 47 New
        32
        Yes, Shoigu was there .. Just calm down!
        1. HUMAN OWNER 1
          HUMAN OWNER 1 8 February 2016 23: 38 New
          0
          In Debaltseve - Shoigu wink they copied it here in VO (damn it, they don’t understand sarcasm)!
      3. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 8 February 2016 16: 53 New
        17
        Quote: kapitan92
        In my opinion, Muzhenko has a pronounced aesthetic underdevelopment, although I can be wrong and everything is much worse! smile


        And where did you meet the "advanced" there ?! The one on the left, a clearly pronounced proto-ukr, he will cut off the oseledets and will be a garny Svidomo lad!

        Anyway, I noticed for a long time that Russophobia leaves an indelible imprint of debility on my face (yes moderators of VO will forgive me), but you cannot say otherwise!
      4. Yura
        Yura 8 February 2016 17: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: kapitan92
        In my opinion, Muzhenko has a pronounced aesthetic underdevelopment, although I can be wrong and everything is much worse!

        This is definitely a more difficult diagnosis, imposed conceit on this underdevelopment
        Whether the Minister of Defense of Russia Shoigu was directly there at that time, we did not have such information.
        Shoigu has nothing more to do than to rub between bribes like this. Shoigu can be in Ukraine only in one case - to accept a parade of his troops in Kiev, and even then he would probably order one of his subordinates to do it, for him Kiev is not a scale.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 8 February 2016 21: 57 New
          +6
          Quote: Jura
          Shoigu can be in Ukraine only in one case

          "There are miracles ... Shoigu wanders there and snipers are sitting on the branches there ... Buryats roam on invisible paths in sandals ..." so forgive me AS. Pushkin!
          1. Yura
            Yura 8 February 2016 22: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Egoza
            There are miracles ... Shoigu wanders there

            Well, that's normal.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 8 February 2016 22: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: Jura
            Shoigu can be in Ukraine only in one case

            "There are miracles ... Shoigu wanders there and snipers are sitting on the branches there ... Buryats roam on invisible paths in sandals ..." so forgive me AS. Pushkin!

            I think forgive ..........
      5. Militia
        Militia 8 February 2016 18: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: kapitan92
        In my opinion, Muzhenko has a pronounced aesthetic underdevelopment, although I can be wrong and everything is much worse! smile


        You are right colleague. Everything is much worse. Such a caution that Zico's fever (idiocy) has come to be independent, but this is carefully hidden. But here, Muzhenko suddenly showed all the symptoms of this infection. It is getting worse because the antidote serum has not yet been invented. Therefore, you have to endure this nonsense, from these idiots.
      6. PValery53
        PValery53 8 February 2016 19: 56 New
        0
        Muzhenko clearly expressed arrogance in his eyes. Looks dictated by the size of the stars on the shoulder straps. Only for such stars and the number of troops in Dill you can’t scrape together: everyone is fleeing this ATO like hell from incense.
    3. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 8 February 2016 16: 41 New
      +7
      Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff Muzhenko reflects on the topic of "possible personal presence" of Sergei Shoigu during the operation in Debaltseve
      - Shoigu was informed that he was being summoned for questioning in Ukraine. - Wow, did they ask for it? Well, have to come. And interrogate.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 8 February 2016 16: 49 New
        12
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff Muzhenko reflects on the topic of "possible personal presence" of Sergei Shoigu during the operation in Debaltseve
        - Shoigu was informed that he was being summoned for questioning in Ukraine. - Wow, did they ask for it? Well, have to come. And interrogate.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 8 February 2016 17: 00 New
          +3
          In the photo, Muzhenko was so carried away by phone sex that his neighbor's eyes went up: =)
        2. brasist
          brasist 9 February 2016 06: 44 New
          +1
          problem solving recourse
    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 8 February 2016 16: 44 New
      11
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In the photo, the Ukrainian military (after peeping at the damned m.

      There they are, it turns out where they spied! So there is not only Shoigu, there the GDP ahead on a dashing horse should be ...

      Hell is empty, all the devil is here, in Ukraine ... fool
    5. avt
      avt 8 February 2016 16: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      lit up the latest weapons - war koloboks.

      Armored Koloboks. This is what! And estimate how they’ll be offended when Shoigu personally drops a rubber bomb on them from an airplane! This is a natural mockery for a horse of Maidan - to die from a jumping bomb!
      Quote: Thrall
      You confused them with tactical color hedgehogs,

      No. Not ! Colored hedgehogs and a galloping squirrel, as well as green crocodiles on a pinjack, this is to Petsa who is not dry. And here Muzhe ... Lozhenko specifically inserted and pins, so on issues of armored koloboks, armored buryat tank divisions of the Altai police and Pskov paratroopers from the Kubyanka, this is for him, and for colored hedgehogs - to Pets Piglet. Here is the country, as Mikheyev -Maydanya put it recently! wassat That news is in Maidan, then in Russia there is a joke. So we got drunk and went about that under every bush they see Shoigu .... about Putin and I don’t say - they shut up, they see the god beating to anger Ukraine.
    6. Persistent
      Persistent 8 February 2016 17: 13 New
      20
      lit up the latest weapons - war koloboks.

      This is the Ukrainians all hedgehogs shaved in the army ??? laughing

      And Enerel ukrov cool on the rattles on their stomachs !!! laughing
      1. almost demobil
        almost demobil 8 February 2016 18: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Persistent
        And Enerel ukrov cool on the rattles on their stomachs !!!

        Yes, in fact, our Russian srednestatichesky ensign may well lead the Khokhloarmia. laughing
        1. Persistent
          Persistent 8 February 2016 18: 17 New
          +1
          Yes, in fact, our Russian srednestatichesky ensign may well lead the Khokhloarmia.

          Even the ensign refuses to lead the rabble under the proud name of the Armed Forces ....

          http://antifashist.com/item/polskij-newsweek-v-ukrainskom-okope-tuberkulez-ubiva
          et-bystree-chem-puli.html
      2. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 9 February 2016 04: 26 New
        0
        Is there a view from the back? )))
        1. Persistent
          Persistent 9 February 2016 19: 14 New
          0
          Is there a view from the back? )))

          Well, just can't sit down laughing there are problems too !!!!
    7. vodolaz
      vodolaz 8 February 2016 17: 22 New
      +2
      Who confirmed by whom? Facebook of course!
    8. northern
      northern 8 February 2016 19: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "Photo from October 2015. Muzhenko - on the right"

      In the photo, the Ukrainian military (having peeped at the damned mkalivat idea) lit up the latest weapons - war koloboks. smile

      Is it his coloring book?
    9. EngineerP
      EngineerP 9 February 2016 07: 05 New
      +1
      Everyone was there - V.V. Putin, S.K. Shoigu, D.A. Medvedev, and G.K.Zhukov, A.Ya. Nevsky, D.I. Donskoy, A.V. Suvorov, M.I. Kutuzov and other comrades !!!
  2. izya top
    izya top 8 February 2016 16: 34 New
    28
    everything, killed !!! I'm dead under the table
    1. Jack-b
      Jack-b 8 February 2016 16: 38 New
      10
      Make a decent picture, we also want a table under the table.
      1. Alexanast
        Alexanast 8 February 2016 16: 55 New
        11
        I just read the bottom and then fell ...
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 8 February 2016 17: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Jack-B
        Make a decent picture, we also want a table under the table.

        In a new tab, open.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 8 February 2016 18: 24 New
          +5
          Quote: Vladimirets
          In a new tab, open.

          Or Ctrl + mouse wheel .... helps yes Hi Eugene hi!
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 8 February 2016 19: 19 New
            0
            Greetings, dear. hi
      3. kotvov
        kotvov 8 February 2016 19: 36 New
        +1
        if the picture is displayed on a small scale, press the left Ctrl and use the wheel to set the desired scale. return the scale in the reverse order.
    2. marna
      marna 8 February 2016 17: 53 New
      +1
      Nda ..., read your picture. It’s not under the table; here it’s just right to cry, as it takes them apart. Storytellers.
      By the way, to read, you can save and enlarge when viewing.
  3. Pravdarm
    Pravdarm 8 February 2016 16: 34 New
    +5
    Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff Muzhenko reflects on the topic of "possible personal presence" of Sergei Shoigu during the operation in Debaltseve
    I have only one question about such thoughts: What? Reflects!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 8 February 2016 16: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: Pravdarm
      I have only one question about such thoughts: What? Reflects!

      If there is something to sit on - it means he can think ....
      - And here, such, Shoigu, in front of the tanks, on a dashing horse .....
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 8 February 2016 16: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: lelikas
        - And here, such, Shoigu, in front of the tanks, on a dashing horse ....

        And the battle continues again !!!
        And the heart is unwell in the chest !!!
        And Shoigu is so young !!!
        And steal the boiler ahead !!! (with)
  4. KOH
    KOH 8 February 2016 16: 35 New
    +1
    Ready for new boilers !!!
    1. Samen
      Samen 8 February 2016 16: 48 New
      +1
      We have really motivated personnel,

      ... On what, the personnel, otmAtivat the chief of staff, for unsatisfactory conditions of service and worthless "harness"!
      laughing laughing laughing
  5. Tusv
    Tusv 8 February 2016 16: 36 New
    +1
    Well, that’s it. True Putin and Shoigu full of Svidomo
  6. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 8 February 2016 16: 37 New
    +7
    We have confirmed (by whom? - approx. "IN") the facts of the participation of Russian troops in the battles for Debaltseve - this is clear. Whether Russian Defense Minister Shoigu was there directly at the time, we did not have such information. But there is no doubt that everything was done with the knowledge of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.


    Why did you forget the rest?
    1. cap
      cap 8 February 2016 17: 10 New
      10
      Medvedev against ukrokiborg nothing.
      The cyborg dog is a new development of Ukroboronprom, created in cooperation with NATO partners. Of foreign components, only PES. The performance characteristics are classified, the commands are understood in 3 languages, including Ukrainian. wassat
      cyborgcyborg
  7. Appraiser
    Appraiser 8 February 2016 16: 37 New
    +5
    Muzhenko's brains are clearly not men's ... "Like flies, here and there rumors go from house to house. And the toothless old women carry them to minds! soldier
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 8 February 2016 16: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Appraiser
      ... "Like flies, here and there rumors are circulating in houses. And the toothless old women carry them through the minds!

      Yes, in this case V.S. Vysotsky would speak differently! And Shukshin would not have lagged behind him! And for Bykova (only old people go into battle) and there is nothing to say!
  8. Wheel
    Wheel 8 February 2016 16: 38 New
    +3
    Of course it was!
    Right at the head of the Buryat armored vehicles.
    Ahead, on a dashing horse!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 8 February 2016 17: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Wheel
      Of course it was!
      Right at the head of the Buryat armored vehicles.
      Ahead, on a dashing horse!

      You were somewhat mistaken, there were Khakass Nijia-zya-za!
  9. AlexTires
    AlexTires 8 February 2016 16: 38 New
    +8
    We can’t comment on this nonsense, eh?
  10. lysyj bob
    lysyj bob 8 February 2016 16: 38 New
    +3
    This hell, that on the left, what did he see there, that his glasses got on his forehead? He would take off the Suvorov crab, so as not to disgrace.
  11. Jack-b
    Jack-b 8 February 2016 16: 39 New
    +4
    And the stars on uniform do not fall under the struggle with the communist past?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 8 February 2016 17: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Jack-B
      And the stars on uniform do not fall under the struggle with the communist past?

      Soon crosses will grow there!
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 9 February 2016 01: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Jack-B
        And the stars on uniform do not fall under the struggle with the communist past?

        Quote: Tol100v
        Soon crosses will grow there!

        Crosses are not crosses, but epaulettes in terms of themselves are quite German. with rhombs. Only there is no money yet, and the case is just such that America, even through laughter, will not give money for it ...
  12. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 8 February 2016 16: 40 New
    +2
    Mudenko smoked some rubbish again ...
  13. fanntomas
    fanntomas 8 February 2016 16: 41 New
    +1
    Already not even joking forces. It remains to quote Lavrov ...
    1. demo
      demo 8 February 2016 16: 48 New
      +4
      Anyone put in the place of Sergei Lavrov, so he generally ceases to use normative vocabulary ..... to!
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 8 February 2016 17: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: fanntomas
      . It remains to quote Lavrov ...

      Give the person a rest!
  14. Dembel
    Dembel 8 February 2016 16: 41 New
    +3
    Kazan took, Astrakhan took, Crimea took, Debaltseve ... did not take.
  15. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 8 February 2016 16: 43 New
    0
    Lavrov stood on a riffraff, Medvedev shot on an iPhone ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 8 February 2016 17: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Lavrov stood on a riffraff, Medvedev shot on an iPhone ...

      And Putin was doing business at that time!
  16. drags33
    drags33 8 February 2016 16: 43 New
    10
    Shaw, they smoke there in dill, huh? Or maidan smoke breathed? No, just interesting...
    1. avt
      avt 8 February 2016 16: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: drags33
      Shaw, they smoke there in dill, huh?

      Tires have not yet been released.
  17. Achilles
    Achilles 8 February 2016 16: 44 New
    +5
    The Ukrainian military continues to make a fuss about the Russian army, even if they couldn’t admit that the miners in Debaltseve pushed them in full
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 February 2016 16: 46 New
    +2
    It feels like this Svidomo "strategist" is either drunk or thoroughly stoned. sad
  19. Taygerus
    Taygerus 8 February 2016 16: 48 New
    +1
    only euthanasia and only it, definitely, medicine is powerless here laughing
  20. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 8 February 2016 16: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: kapitan92
    In my opinion, Muzhenko has a pronounced aesthetic underdevelopment, although I can be wrong and everything is much worse! smile

    To me, his mug reminded me of a wounded man in the duplex Semenchenko. Probably the level of development is the same fool
  21. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 8 February 2016 16: 53 New
    +4
    A good photo in the article, and especially an explanation for it: Muzhenko - on right. This warrior could well be him on the left as well. it is deeply the same for us what kind of hairy snout it is and what they sing together in the manner of carols.
    Until he, like Geletey, calls upon the volley fire of tactical nuclear weapons, it’s not enough for us to talk with such a minister. (at the last I really want to replace the word the last letter).
  22. Igor V
    Igor V 8 February 2016 16: 57 New
    +4
    In the photo, the one on the left wears Soviet medals for length of service with ** a.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 8 February 2016 17: 15 New
      +3
      Not only that, but also from the Suvorovites. Cadet EPRST!
  23. sir_obs
    sir_obs 8 February 2016 16: 57 New
    +2
    What Shoigu, everyone knows that there was the GDP itself!
  24. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 8 February 2016 17: 15 New
    +1
    After Geletey said that Russia delivered a nuclear attack on the Lugansk airport, no nonsense from the Ukrainian military is no longer surprising.
  25. Leo7777
    Leo7777 8 February 2016 17: 16 New
    0
    I personally saw Shoigu there.
  26. VVM
    VVM 8 February 2016 17: 19 New
    +1
    There is no limit to human stupidity. VNA Ukraine forgot about it
  27. Stinger
    Stinger 8 February 2016 17: 31 New
    +1
    Whether the Minister of Defense of Russia Shoigu was directly there at that time, we did not have such information. But there was no doubt that everything was done with the knowledge of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    No, they could not command there. The forces of three fronts defended the captured bridgehead in the Crimea from superior enemy forces. And Putin, at the head of two Yakut armored divisions, was eager for Kiev with the support of the Mongolian fleet, which had been concentrated in advance and secretly off the coast of Belarus.
    Uniform slander! Actually.
  28. Flat5160
    Flat5160 8 February 2016 17: 50 New
    +1
    How highly they value themselves, you just sometimes refuse to believe in this nonsense. "We have confirmed (by whom? - approx." VO ") facts of the participation of Russian troops in the battles for Debaltseve - this is unambiguous. Was the Russian Defense Minister Shoigu there directly at that time, we did not have such information. But the fact that everything was done with the knowledge of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the RF Armed Forces - there is no doubt about that. " The Minister of the RF Armed Forces himself gave us a punch, so we have an excuse.
  29. AlexB
    AlexB 8 February 2016 17: 51 New
    +2
    they never cease to amaze you with insanity .... it seems that it’s not where, but the Ukrainian authorities have kept the dope for a hundred years.
  30. oldzek
    oldzek 8 February 2016 17: 55 New
    +2
    what does Shoigu have to do with? under Debaltseve were Vasilevsky, Zhukov, Rokossovsky .... next in the list
  31. rus-5819
    rus-5819 8 February 2016 17: 56 New
    +1
    I was left with a pleasant impression of this visit. We have truly motivated personnel

    You will be "motivated" here if you have "evil militias in front of you!" And "good pravoseki" behind!

    Muzhenko did not reflect on the topic of whether the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces, Vladimir Putin, was personally in Debaltseve? ..

    And who did not see him there: on a white horse, but with a saber in his hand ...
  32. Balagan
    Balagan 8 February 2016 17: 56 New
    0
    But Muzhenko himself was not in Debaltseve at that time? Oh, how the new Paulus would lift the spirit of the militias!
  33. X Y Z
    X Y Z 8 February 2016 17: 58 New
    0
    And sho they have some kind of leaf-berries in buttonholes? There would be a good shmat of fat with a cucumber, and instead of stars on shoulder straps bunches of dill. It would be so delicious!
  34. Old shoe
    Old shoe 8 February 2016 17: 59 New
    0
    I think that all actions of the Russian troops take place according to the relevant orders and orders of the highest military-political leadership of the Russian Federation
    Here is a thoughtful observation !!! But what else ?! Damn, it would be strange if it was somehow different. Although ... For Gulyaypol (Ukraine), this order of things is probably incomprehensible.
  35. Papapg
    Papapg 8 February 2016 18: 01 New
    +1
    Was the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces Vladimir Putin personally in Debaltseve?
    The answer was, along with Shoigu, and both in separate submarines, accompanied by equestrian divers.

    I’m surely wondering, do these people really think such thoughts or is this what the correspondents come up with?
  36. Foresterer
    Foresterer 8 February 2016 18: 06 New
    +1
    Yes, they all sat there in the dugout, who does not know this. There are pictures from a secret Svidomo underground satellite. In the satellite Tom Shkiryak sat, saw everything. But seriously, after such revelations of these assholes in the form of at least someone takes for adequate?
  37. tor978
    tor978 8 February 2016 18: 11 New
    +1
    I don’t understand something, but why do these generals from Ukraine have stars on uniform? They also have a kind of desovetization there and they are obliged to wear all their Ukrainian clothes instead of stars.
  38. vobels
    vobels 8 February 2016 18: 14 New
    +2
    "..I think that all actions of the Russian troops are taking place according to the relevant orders and orders .." Here is a statement I liked the hubby. Apparently, they do not think and do not give orders to the troops, and this is a curiosity to him.
  39. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 8 February 2016 18: 15 New
    +1
    It is strange that Muzhenko did not reflect on the topic of whether the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces Vladimir Putin was personally in Debaltseve? ..

    So ... it does not require proof. The God of the Khokslovs is omnipresent and omnipotent by default, for everything in Ukraine is happening with his knowledge and his will. Do not believe? Read Ukrosmi! smile
  40. wow
    wow 8 February 2016 18: 18 New
    +1
    A bunch of mindless ukroppenfuehrer - the "general staff" of the APU for "work ..."
  41. Mercenary
    Mercenary 8 February 2016 18: 18 New
    +1
    Well yes! And the medics he had was Medvedev.
    With all due respect to S. Shaig, he is primarily an ORGANIZER and an unconditionally talented administrator, but not Suvorov A.V. (generalissimo, not that zas..ranets free historian)
  42. BABAY22
    BABAY22 8 February 2016 18: 37 New
    +3
    Something like that.
  43. cergey51046
    cergey51046 8 February 2016 18: 48 New
    0
    Muzhenko has gigantomania. This is not a royal matter - some kind of Debaltseve.
  44. KRIG55
    KRIG55 8 February 2016 18: 58 New
    +3
    If the former Minister of Emergency Situations led the APU into such confusion, I’m afraid to even think about what will happen if General Shamanov arrives there .......
  45. sounddoc
    sounddoc 8 February 2016 19: 07 New
    +5
    Here you are, quilted jackets! Shoigu personally led the operation to create the Debaltsevsky boiler!
    PHOTO FACT !!!
  46. obama
    obama 8 February 2016 19: 30 New
    +1
    Small for Shloigu. Well, what a serious opponent he was, then you can still understand. And then pissing shit))) a lot of honor!
  47. ivanych
    ivanych 8 February 2016 20: 03 New
    +1
    ... well, ... if you omit all the nonsense of this general, then ... what did I notice? And what are they dressed up in "m ... ysky zbryu", here you have shoulder straps, here you have the stars, and the cut of the tunics is all hated Russian, and where, one wonders, decommunization (or what?) ... how something needs to be brought to them, that's all
    will have something to do. am
    ... Ask for Zverev’s sergeant, he’s bobbing their uniform. ... gee ....
    1. gergi
      gergi 8 February 2016 23: 24 New
      0
      Seryozha Zvereva can only make him a fashionable one.
  48. madjik
    madjik 8 February 2016 22: 07 New
    +2
    raziebaltsovo under debaltsovo everything haunts the Ukrainians laughing
  49. gergi
    gergi 8 February 2016 23: 22 New
    0
    He reflects! Great strategist. Aphid. The rope is crying for him.
  50. sergant67
    sergant67 8 February 2016 23: 23 New
    +1
    Tell me what the title of the clown on the right? guess army general or marshal?))

    And I would call the picture not "Council in Fili", but "Under external control"