MiG announces a contract for the supply of more 50 fighters to one of the countries of North Africa

Deputy Director General of MiG Corporation Alexei Beskibalov confirmed the earlier information about signing a contract for the supply to North Africa of more than 50 MiG-29М / М2 fighters of new construction, the blog reports bmpd with reference to RIA News.

The prototype of the MiG-29М2 fighter (MiG-35, type 9-67, tail number "747"). Zhukovsky, 27.08.2015

This Beskibalov told in Nizhny Novgorod at an event dedicated to the 84 anniversary of the plant "Falcon".

"Rosoboronexport signed the largest contract for the entire history military technical cooperation, on which we have to deliver more MiG-50М / М29 aircraft to 2 ... This will load the capacities of our joint venture and Lukhovits and Nizhny Novgorod before 2020 of the year ”, He said, adding that “the contract was signed in April 2015 of the year” and the customer is “one of the countries of North Africa”.

“This contract is already in force, an advance has been received for it and financing has been arranged at the Nizhny Novgorod plant,” the general director said. “We have to ship the first two aircraft at the end of this year.”

According to the blog, we are talking about the supply of aircraft to Egypt. For the first time about this transaction reported in May last year, the newspaper "Vedomosti".

Comments

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Algeria will not buy them, only Egypt remains.

[Inok10]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Algeria will not buy them, only Egypt remains.

... about this and there was news back in 2015 ... that was confirmed ... definitely Egypt ...

[Pravdarm]

Great news, no matter who buys! The main thing is that the train will go to the Mikoyan Design Bureau!
And then, basically in the SU partners partners open their mouths!
And MIGs are also great planes! Moreover, they are also developing the 5th generation!
They also need finances for this!
I am very glad to see in our system both MIGs and DRY and YAK! Brothers!

[VP]

I don’t know, there are rumors that the MiG was blown away a long time ago, as a company they lose to Sukhoi in all respects, both in design and production, and just in organizational. Will they overpower this contract?

[Kasym]

VP Given the size of Russia, which car would you bet on? Definitely Dry! MiG, although a fighter, but has its own tasks - a front-line fighter, which should control the air. space on the battlefield, and if necessary, support troops on the ground. Because of its size, it is better for him to work on the earth than Sushki.
Money was not given to Mikoyanovtsy or there wasn’t !? The market for such a machine is much larger than that of this. Su-27. Small countries are much larger than large ones. Yes, and poor countries can not afford heavy fighters, they would be cheaper.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Inok10

Algeria will not buy them, only Egypt remains.

Algeria has money, Egypt has only what the Saudis will throw

[veksha50]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Algeria has money, Egypt has only what the Saudis will throw

In Soviet times, we also supplied weapons to Egypt almost on loan ...

But the Saudis' payment for the acquisition of our weapons is something I don’t like ... I just don’t understand the reasons that prompt the Saudis to pay for OUR weapons, rather than some Amer, French ... Indeed, for Russia, the SA is practically an enemy ...

[cap]

Quote: veksha50

Quote: Stirbjorn

Algeria has money, Egypt has only what the Saudis will throw

In Soviet times, we also supplied weapons to Egypt almost on loan ...

But the Saudis' payment for the acquisition of our weapons is something I don’t like ... I just don’t understand the reasons that prompt the Saudis to pay for OUR weapons, rather than some Amer, French ... Indeed, for Russia, the SA is practically an enemy ...

The Saudis are looking for allies and are ready to pay for it. The coalition has been put together to the peak of the American. They are getting ready for an otvetka.

[veksha50]

Quote: Inok10

about this and there was news back in 2015 ... that’s confirmed ..

But a month ago there was information about a powerful reduction in the personnel of the MIG corporation ... Thank God, it means that it was not confirmed ...

[nik13]

it’s a pity they only cut off almost half the contract, because initially it was about a hundred

[seti]

Why not buy ..? The plane is excellent and more than modern. Not expensive. The country is not called, but I think sellers / buyers already know where they are delivered. We will soon find out - you can’t hide such a contract in a bag.
The customer receives modern weapons, our factories orders, workers work and the country replenishes the budget. Everyone is happy.

[Bongo]

Quote: seti

Why not buy ..?

In 2006-2007, the Algerian Air Force transferred 15 MiG-29SMT / UB fighters. After receiving the aircraft, the Algerian side stated that they did not meet the requirements specified in the contract. This was a formal reason for the return of the MiG-29SMT to Russia.

[2С5]

... and the "potential adversary" is unlikely to break off, so the "potential allies" in the BV, in Africa and in general wherever possible ... they are NATO to us, we will answer them and see who has what thicker ...

[Maxom75]

Egypt is already reported on Lenta.ru.https: //lenta.ru/news/2016/02/06/esttolkomig/

[tomket]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

only Egypt remains.

Against the background of recent purchases, Egypt begins to turn into a Middle East-hulk-pumped weapon.

[Russian Moldavian]

On de

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Algeria will not buy them, only Egypt remains.

Saudi Arabian money

[Rader]

Quote: Russian Moldovans

On de

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Algeria will not buy them, only Egypt remains.

Saudi Arabian money

What is interesting in twins! With Saudi money, Egypt is pumping weapons from Russia. Either the United States acts indirectly through the Middle Eastern manarchs (although why? Do they make a counterbalance to Israel from Egypt?), Or the monarchs have completely lost touch with the State Department, make a counterweight to Egypt from Israel, their wards from North Africa, and are trying to secure the Suez Canal ...

[Knight Rider]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Algeria will not buy them, only Egypt remains.

Algeria ordered a new batch of Su-30MKA, and put an eye on the Su-34

[Andrey77]

Egypt. Do not go to the fortuneteller.

[Woodman]

Again, probably a loan ... Although I would still have suggested that Algeria would buy it.

[Inok10]

Quote: Lesovik

Again, probably a loan ... Although I would still have suggested that Algeria would buy it.

... quote from an article:

“This contract is already in force, an advance has been received and financing has been arranged.

... well, the rearmament of Egypt is financed by the Saudis ... ... work out "shoals" for the support of the Muslim Brotherhood ...

[seti]

Quote: Lesovik

Again, probably a loan ... Although I would still have suggested that Algeria would buy it.

Ria Novosti reported yesterday that an advance payment by the supplier has already been received. So cash.

[Maxom75]

The Saudis are chattering.

[skrabplus.ru]

rather gold

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Lesovik

Again, probably a loan ... Although I would still have suggested that Algeria would buy it.

What a debt? It is written, the advance is received. The first two aircraft should go to the customer this year. And pays for the banquet, most likely, Saudi Arabia

[Woodman]

Well, if cash, then I'm only glad!

[lysyj bob]

Quote: Lesovik

Again, probably a loan ...

Within a few years, all of our tourists will be accepted for free)))

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Lesovik

Again, probably a loan ... Although I would still have suggested that Algeria would buy it.

Also put on Algeria. Egypt will only give money for some Rafali

[Samaritan]

Friendly, but didn’t try to read the article ???
He is more interested in what forces, this is necessary in 3 shifts, and now the Russian side is completing a contract (concluded in 2010) for the supply of 29 ship fighters in the interests of the Indian Navy - 23 vehicles have already been delivered. This year another 6 pcs. May God give you strength!

[Andrey77]

Only the USSR traded in debt, now it will not work.

[dyksi]

Egypt buys, they have already paid the advance. They also want to buy the MiG-35, but he is just getting ready for testing. This information was voiced on our resource and now it was confirmed. There is also Peru, Syria, Serbia, Iran. Let's hope that everything will grow together with these contracts.

[tomket]

Quote: dyksi

They also want to buy the MiG-35, but he is just getting ready for testing.

And what to cook then? It has long been tested and run-in and even produced in series in the ship version.

[dyksi]

This is understandable, Sergey Korotkov spoke about this, but the state decided to do just that and most likely due to the fact that in the next two years expensive Su-35s will be purchased and the production of the T-50 will begin, which is very expensive. I think that this was the real reason for the postponement of the adoption of the MiG-35, it was ready for the series two years ago.

[DarkMatter]

This is a turn, as they say - but the men did not know.
And AFAR stands on the ship? I thought there’s not even a PFAR, a slot antenna.

AFAR for the 35th in Fazotron has been sawing for how many years, already the 4th (fourth) version of the radar is being done and still nothing. I hope they’ll finish it, otherwise there will be no MIG-35, at least what it should be.

[Inok10]

Quote: DarkMatter

AFAR for the 35th in Fazotron has been sawing for how many years, already the 4th (fourth) version of the radar is being done and still nothing. I hope they’ll finish it, otherwise there will be no MIG-35, at least what it should be.

.... "Beetle A" has been ready since 2010 ... with a full-fledged AFAR ... do not mislead people ...

[DarkMatter]

I answered you from another thread about this and about 2010

[pavelty]

Well, at least MiGary, you look out of the ass they will crawl out, in which they were recently ...

[veksha50]

Quote: pavlentiy

Well, at least MiGary, you look out of the ass they will crawl out, in which they were recently ...

In the ass, as you put it, MIGi was not driven by the corporation itself (designers-developers-manufacturers), but by the undercover political games ... And this happened in our aviation during the USSR, and now it continues ... He who gets closer to the body gets it government orders and development subsidies ...

Well, and, it seems to me, the military top elite influenced when it decided that our aircraft did not need light fighters ...

Personally, I am glad that the MIG received this order ... I would have been glad even more if Migari went to our VVS-VKS, especially the upgraded Mig-31s, and even better - a new machine that absorbed the 31st all the best ...

[Mikhail Krapivin]

That is, everything is in order in our army with airplanes, a complete set, and now it is possible to trade with foreign countries?

[Inok10]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

That is, everything is in order in our army with airplanes, a complete set, and now it is possible to trade with foreign countries?

... MiG-35 goes to the GS test .. such foreign contracts make it possible to reduce the cost of deliveries to their own air force ...
P.S. ... Comrades, what a way to derogate, where the rules of good form are traditional for VO! ... do not agree, answer reasonably! ...

[Simon]

Money must also be earned!

[veksha50]

Quote: Simon

Money must also be earned!

This is not the point ... Many - including me - have a poor perception of the deal with Egypt paid by the Saudis ... And Egypt, according to modern history, is such a buyer ... Damn, there’s nothing besides damage from him and betrayal of the USSR plainly did not see ...

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

That is, everything is in order in our army with airplanes, a complete set, and now it is possible to trade with foreign countries?

Not everything, but the process is going on ... According to rumors, this year our military will sign a contract with Mig for the supply of the 35s, pah, pah, pah!

[tomket]

Quote: KnightRider

And pays for the banquet, most likely, Saudi Arabia

Here is the question. The fact that the Saudis are paying for the banquet is understandable. The question is that before that they offered us to buy a mountain of weapons in exchange for Syria. Why did they suddenly switch from Rafale to MiGs?

[Knight Rider]

Quote: tomket

The question is that before that they offered us to buy a mountain of weapons in exchange for Syria. Why did they suddenly switch from Rafale to MiGs?

Egypt buys both Rafali and Migi. And they will not get Syria for any mountains ...

[Mera joota]

Quote: tomket

Why did they suddenly switch from Rafale to MiGs?

Where did you get it? January 29, 2016 three Rafales from the second batch flew to Egypt and handed over to the customer, the Egyptian Air Force already had Rafaley.

[Alexez]

Good news! Despite everything, the MiG is rising again !!!

[Thunderbolt]

There is an opinion that the KSA allocates money to the Egyptians for military construction. And thereby plans to find a reliable ally. Then what is the political meaning of this deal? Wasn’t this with the Union or did the world really become global? And why not Algeria? And the contract really grandiose, all the more MiG. And for us it means cheaper.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Thunderbolt

. Then what is the political meaning of this deal?

Well, you yourself have explained. The Saudis pay for the banquet in the hope that Egypt will support them in various military endeavors. Only as long as the Egyptians do not show much zeal in carrying chestnuts for KSA. Plus, the deal was probably approved even when the Saudis were hoping to negotiate with us on Syria.

Quote: Thunderbolt

Why not Algeria?

And nobody pays them
Seriously, they still have enough Su-30MKA.

Quote: Thunderbolt

And for us it means cheaper.

The Mig-29M2 in the form in which it is now is not so needed by the Air Force. So it is more relevant to load production capacities, plus means for finalizing the aircraft.

[Thunderbolt]

Thank you, Odysseus, everything was explained logically and competently.

Quote: Odyssey

. That's just until the Egyptians show special zeal in carrying chestnuts for KSA.

Now the main thing is that the Egyptians continue to imitate "loyal allies" and do not change the vector of their policy as a result of some military coup or "spring."

[Odysseus]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Thank you Odysseus

Well, not at all

Quote: Thunderbolt

Now the main thing is for the Egyptians to continue to imitate "loyal allies" and not to change the vector of their policy as a result of some military coup or "spring"

That's for sure. Their current policy is just optimal for us. By the way, in addition to the Mi-29M2, they also buy the Ka-52, plus a few other little things.
And they are now engaged in imitation of violent activities to support KSA in Yemen. The main thing is that they should not be seriously harnessed seriously for the Saudis.

[Nikolay71]

If this contract really will ensure the utilization of the enterprise’s capacities until the 2020 of the year, then excellent. And there you look and some new MiG will appear.

[tomket]

Quote: Nikolay71

If this contract really will ensure the utilization of the enterprise’s capacities until the 2020 of the year, then excellent.

And will something fall into ours? By the way, I wonder what is there under the SMT contract?

[Odysseus]

Quote: tomket

By the way, I wonder what is there under the SMT contract?

They make a squadron with a hook that will most likely go to Erebuni to replace the old 29s.

[2224460]

“Rosoboronexport signed the largest contract in the history of military-technical cooperation, according to which we must supply more 50 MiG-29M / M2 aircraft ... This will load the capacities of our combined enterprise and Lukhovits and Nizhny Novgorod until 2020 year”

Do you say sanctions? In isolation? Torn to shreds?

[triglav]

For migrants - a good help. Again the prestige of the power ...

[Yuuki]

I wonder what is the amount of the contract?

[red joni]

we will sell the old twigs to the Africans and with this money we will make new ones.

[Andrey77]

We’ll sell 1 (new) and build 2 for ourselves. You can’t give a junk to anyone.

[Odysseus]

In the case of receiving both the MiGs and Rafaley, Egypt will become the owner of a brilliant but incomprehensible collection of multi-role fighters from all world manufacturers.Tut and the F-16 and Rafal with the Mirage 2000 and MiG-29M2. It remains for the sake of completeness to purchase Chinese clones of the MiG-21 (for replacement) J-7) something like J-10B.
And there will be a full package so to speak

[red_october]

In addition to military motives, there is also politics.
If the government is capable of implementing serious trade contracts, the chances of being overthrown or bombed are reduced significantly.
Gaddafi did not buy Rafali, for example.
Well, here we are talking not only about "Rafals" and their service for a decade ahead, but also about the whole complex of trade and industrial ties that need to be developed.

[Odysseus]

Quote: red_october

Gaddafi "Rafali" did not buy, for example

Gaddafi had to create nuclear weapons and the West did not believe a penny. Rafali would not have helped him.

Quote: red_october

Well, here we are talking not only about "Rafals" and their service for a decade ahead, but also about the whole complex of trade and industrial ties that need to be developed.

So, who would object. There are means, let them indulge. Another thing is that it is not entirely clear why Egypt needs such air forces. From the West and Israel it still will not help, but for other opponents it is redundant. But this is their business.

[Belarus]

Egypt feels guilty for the attack on a Russian passenger plane and therefore does everything to make amends - conscious apparently.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Belarus

Egypt feels guilty for the attack on a Russian passenger plane and therefore does everything to make amends - conscious apparently.

The contract was concluded before the attack - in April

[red_october]

"Rafali" - for show-offs, MiGs - for work

[Odysseus]

Quote: red_october

Rafali "- for show-off, MiGi - for work

Most likely: Mig-29M2 as a replacement for the Mig-21 for the air defense system, F-16 for gaining air supremacy, Rafal and Mirage 2000 as projectiles.

[samoletil18]

The Syrians would rent several MiGs. You look, and someone else will be interested in buying ... Dreams, however. And design bureaus and factories for a very long time were almost inactive. This contract would be fulfilled without jambs.