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Why Ukraine will be Southwestern Federal District

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Many people doubt that Ukraine will reunite with the rest of Russia in the foreseeable future.


The economic reunification of Ukraine with the rest of Russia is inevitable for many reasons, of which the main one is that Ukraine as a producing structure is not needed by anyone except the rest of Russia in principle. And what's more, it will never be needed by anyone except the rest of Russia - for natural reasons.

The point here is not even that Ukraine initially, at least for almost four centuries, has been developing within the framework of a single all-Russian manufacturing complex, it could still be somehow replayed. But it is important that the natural conditions characteristic of the whole of Russia, including Ukraine, impose requirements on the product that differ sharply from the requirements of all other currently available markets.

I will give only one example, a small but sufficient. While the average distance of a car trip, which is typical of modern Western Europe, it is advisable to invest a lot of money in maintaining, improving and developing the road network of the highest technically possible quality. While the average distance of a car trip, which is typical for the European part of Russia, including Ukraine, not to mention Siberia or Central Asia, it is advisable to invest the same money not in the creation of technically advanced roads, but in the creation of cars that do not need technically perfect roads. Perhaps the only exception to this general rule is the Donbass, where, in view of the very dense location of urban-type settlements, it is advisable to maintain the road network according to Western European type. But, besides Donbass, it is impossible to name such regions to the east of the Curzon Line.

There are a great many such examples, and they all boil down to the same thing. The requirements of the Russian market, including Ukraine, are radically different from the requirements of any other market with a comparable population.

And at the same time there is a so-called threshold of recoupment of new developments. If the market, which produces a new development, the population is below this threshold, it certainly will not pay off. In the current post-Soviet space, it is about 200 million people, in present-day Western Europe or North America, about 400 million people, this threshold depends on several factors, including the overall level of technical excellence achieved and the ratio of developers 'and serial manufacturers' salaries.

So: it turns out that if Ukraine will be guided, say, to the market of Western Europe, then it simply will not have enough opportunities to simultaneously develop and produce products that meet the requirements of its domestic market. Whereas the all-Russian market in general is already sufficient for Ukraine to cover all its needs with its production efforts. Well, since, as Comrade taught us. Ulyanov, politics is a concentrated expression of the economy, it is clear that economic unity sooner or later requires political.

This is illustrated by the example of the current European Union. Before the collapse of the USSR, the EU was developing in the direction of growth and economic and political unity, but when several post-Soviet countries that were politically adherent to pro-American were included in the EU, problems immediately began with the economic unity of the European Union.

Well, considering also that Ukrainians are an integral part of the Russian people, which is evident from the fact that for the clear majority of citizens of Ukraine, the native language is Russian and the native culture is Russian, the question arises: is it worth keeping several states for the sake of one Russian people?

Of course, there are such precedents - the English people have five states, while the Arabic has 22. But, as experience has shown, only those who benefited in one way or another from destroying Great and Small and White Russia insisted on political separateness of Little and White Russia from Great Russia. Therefore, it is obvious that we can oppose them only in the format of a single state. For only then can we coordinate not only our own interaction, but also opposition to external forces.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 9 February 2016 10: 31 New
    98
    On the one hand, Russia needs Ukraine, and on the other, this huge amount of money will have to be thrown in there. This will have to start the fight against Svidomo and corruption. And these twa_ri will crawl to Russia.
    1. sniper
      sniper 9 February 2016 10: 43 New
      88
      Quote: Wend
      On the one hand, Russia needs Ukraine, but on the other ...

      A very difficult question ... Over the years, Russophobia has been driven into the heads of the population so firmly that it will take decades to neutralize it. In addition, now in / in Ukraine there are thousands of unaccounted for combat trunks and a huge number of people who are used to solving their problems with weapons. With any development of the situation in Ukraine, this will be a very problematic region for a very long time. IMHO
      1. killganoff
        killganoff 9 February 2016 11: 16 New
        -15 qualifying.
        A very difficult question ... Over the years, Russophobia has been driven into the heads of the population so firmly that it will take decades to neutralize it. In addition, now in / in Ukraine there are thousands of unaccounted for combat trunks and a huge number of people who are used to solving their problems with weapons. With any development of the situation in Ukraine, this will be a very problematic region for a very long time. IMHO

        Everything is solved, a vivid example is Chechnya. Although now Russia fully serves Ichkeria; provides recreation for children of Chechnya on the coast of Antalya. But the ruling elite of the Russian Federation has a faithful electorate!
        So it will be here. Reduce, cut wages and pensions, increase taxes in the rest of the country.
        PS By measuring the size of tariffs / taxes in Chechnya and the rest of Russia, the Highlanders are freed from bribes to the state.
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 9 February 2016 11: 50 New
          111
          Quote: killganoff
          Everything is solved, a vivid example is Chechnya. Although now Russia fully serves Ichkeria; provides recreation for children of Chechnya on the coast of Antalya. But the ruling elite of the Russian Federation has a faithful electorate!

          Chechnya is a very bad example. Clan and semi-feudal structure of society. In Chechnya, the clans who sympathize with Kadyrova won. The rest are simply afraid to vote - cut off the language, at least. The people are armed and if for some reason the Kadyrov’s clan is overthrown, the massacre to seize power will begin.
          Ukraine does not have a clan device. This secular state and the Nazis are trying to seize power completely. The common people are armed somewhere, but not somewhere. For Ukraine to be asked to join Russia, it must go through a bloody civil war with the Nazis and Bandera and defeat them, cleanse themselves of this brown plague. Until then, there should not even be any talk of joining Russia. Because if Russians from Russia begin to cleanse Ukraine of this scum, then Ukrainian nationalism will only increase, because innocent and relatives of the Nazis will always die, and the Nazis will take advantage of this. No, let them clean themselves of the dirt into which they themselves entered. And the more weapons in Ukraine, the sooner this cleaning process will begin.
          And as for the seizure of weapons from a population sympathetic to Russia, Ukraine went through this process twice - after the Civil War and after the liberation of Ukraine from the Nazis. There are no big problems.
          1. vladimirw
            vladimirw 9 February 2016 12: 34 New
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            For Ukraine to be asked to join Russia, it must go through a bloody civil war with the Nazis and Bandera and defeat them, cleanse themselves of this brown plague. Until then, there should not even be any talk of joining Russia. Because if Russians from Russia begin to cleanse Ukraine of this scum, then Ukrainian nationalism will only increase, because innocents and relatives of the Nazis will always die, and the Nazis will take advantage of this. No, let them clean themselves of the dirt into which they themselves entered. And the more weapons in Ukraine, the sooner this cleaning process will begin.
            THIS IS WITH THIS FULLY AGREE BY YOURSELF AND ONLY BY YOURSELF
            1. severniy
              severniy 9 February 2016 15: 51 New
              +5
              Author plus per article hi
              I hope it will come true, it's scary to call "there" relatives with questions even about the weather ...
              Py.Sy. Glad to see on the resource good, or earlier just didn’t get on your articles.
            2. aleks700
              aleks700 11 February 2016 20: 09 New
              +2
              Yes. now not 2014. Time is lost. Now for yourself.
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            4. sergius60
              sergius60 11 February 2016 20: 32 New
              +7
              Interesting, and who?
              1. Power - the president, prime minister, speaker, government almost completely, 306 deputies out of 450 = JEWS. And where did you find Ukrainians?
              2. The oligarchs and the media completely and completely controlled by them ("freedom of the press", yeah) = JEWS.
              3. It was similar already in the 17th. 80% "nAgodnoe pGavitelstvo". The Generalissimo managed to clean it up quite well only after 20 years ... Do you suppose the possibility of the appearance of "Stalin" in Ukraine? ;-))
              4.90s in Russia ... The role of the Jews? Or were the "Martians" robbing the country? A chance for "Putin 2.0" to appear in Ukraine?
              5.Butter yes, like Ukrainians. Galicians. Carp tribes are mountain Dacians (Romanians) according to Suetonius. Which are already hundreds of years as CATHOLIKS. Haven't you seen the photographs when dad kissed the "chief ravine "'s foot? It's not a secret at all. bully

              Conclusion: the Jewish kagal with the Catholics in the wings occupied Little Russia with Novorossiya (two regions are firing back from such a "united Ukraine"). sad
          2. user
            user 9 February 2016 12: 40 New
            +4
            For Ukraine to be asked to join Russia, it must go through a bloody civil war with the Nazis and Bandera and defeat them, cleanse themselves of this brown plague. Until then, there should not even be any talk of joining Russia.


            I definitely agree, only under such conditions.
          3. frame 184
            frame 184 10 February 2016 17: 33 New
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            At the very beginning of the civil war in Ukraine in 2014, Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General of the United Nations, made
            a stunning discovery, the distribution of which in the Ukrainian media and on
            Internet resources were immediately banned. It's about a conflict between two states,
            Russia and Ukraine, which was put on the agenda of the UN Security Council. It revealed
            the following: Ukraine has not registered its borders since December 1991.
            In other words, the borders of Ukraine, as a sovereign state, were not
            declared and registered with the UN. Therefore, no offenses
            in relation to Ukraine from Russia was not, and cannot be in principle. AT
            According to the CIS treaty, Ukraine is the administrative district of the USSR.
            Consequently, accuse anyone of separatism or violent change
            the integrity of the borders of the state of Ukraine is impossible to anyone at all.

            To cope with this problem, Ukraine needs to carry out demarcation
            work, and be sure to coordinate them with neighboring countries. The EU is already
            He agreed and expressed his desire to provide technical assistance.

            Now, the most interesting thing: will Russia go towards Ukraine in this difficult
            situation? ..

            However, the demarcation has been started, currently on the solution to the problem
            there are two groups of qualified specialists designating the border on the ground
            and comparing facts with cards. Despite all the efforts of the Kiev junta, her
            patrons, Russia can only make a statement and declare Ukraine its
            territory, since Ukraine used to be part of the USSR, and the Russian Federation is
            successor of the Soviet Union. And everything that happens in Ukraine is
            internal affairs of the Russian Federation, any attempt to intervene may
            regarded as aggression against Russia. Of course, the election results 25
            may be canceled and Petro Poroshenko still remains only
            Chocolate hare.

            There is no sovereign state of Ukraine.

            And it never was.


            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 10 February 2016 21: 58 New
              +7
              There is no conflict between Russia and the so-called Ukraine. There is a conflict between Russia and the so-called "Western world". Most of the current Russian problems were created and paid for by our "sworn friends". Ukraine is only a consequence, the problem lies further to the west. And this has been going on throughout history.
          4. ver_
            ver_ 11 February 2016 06: 52 New
            +3
            ... Ukraine can be admitted to Russia, but carefully, and most importantly - in parts .. as the regions "mature" .. both politically and economically ...
          5. El_Alma_Herida
            El_Alma_Herida 11 February 2016 09: 07 New
            +2
            In Ukraine, the clans of the Akhmetovs and Kolomoisky. And the Nazis are a way to achieve power, control and oppression of the population. In the end, the clans will have to divide the territory, and some will join us, while others will join Europe. Well, or stay on the crucifix.
          6. North Christmas Tree
            North Christmas Tree 11 February 2016 11: 04 New
            +2
            For Ukraine to be asked to join Russia, it must go through a bloody civil war with the Nazis and Bandera and defeat them, cleanse themselves of this brown plague. Until then, there should not even be any talk of joining Russia.

            I totally agree!!!!
            But Chechnya-can be considered as a similar example. There is simply a difference in the mentality-religion-particular.
          7. lopvlad
            lopvlad 11 February 2016 22: 10 New
            +2
            "Chechnya is a very unfortunate example. The clan and semi-feudal structure of society. In Chechnya, the clans that sympathize with Kadyrov won."

            clan rule is primordial in the Caucasus and has always been so. It was in Tsarist Russia, the USSR, and today's Russia.
            The authorities in Moscow simply chose which clan to bet on depending on their strength in the region and their devotion to it.
            Clanism is the most stable form of government in the Caucasus and in general in the Muslim republics.
            An attempt to impose liberalism and other forms of "democracy" in them leads to an explosion and a mess.
            So in Chechnya, the most acceptable form of government of all possible.
        2. Douglas
          Douglas 9 February 2016 11: 59 New
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          Everything is solved, a vivid example is Chechnya. Although now Russia fully serves Ichkeria; provides recreation for children of Chechnya on the coast of Antalya. But the ruling elite of the Russian Federation has a faithful electorate!
          So it will be here. Reduce, cut wages and pensions, increase taxes in the rest of the country.
          PS By measuring the size of tariffs / taxes in Chechnya and the rest of Russia, the Highlanders are freed from bribes to the state.


          My friend doesn’t help. Putin is right that he doesn’t bring troops into Kiev. The Ukrainians themselves must understand what Europe is. They must be cooked in this boiler. Otherwise they will think that they have been torn from a good life. And it doesn’t matter what RUSSIA will do everything for the prosperity of Ukraine. People will evenly think that they were deceived. Therefore, patience, patience.
          1. avdkrd
            avdkrd 9 February 2016 13: 42 New
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            Quote: Douglas
            Ukrainians themselves must understand what Europe is. They must be cooked in this pot. Otherwise, they will think that they have been torn from a good life.

            Right I agree 100%.
            Donbass is ready to return to Russia, but not the fact that we are ready to accept. To support, integrate into the economy — yes, into Russia — is difficult, although it would be fair.
            As for the non-brothers, including Russian-speaking ones, do we need it? I don’t. When SAMI will get rid of the current gang, when the Nazi on Kiev street can walk a maximum of ten meters without a brick in his head, when Bandera and Shukhevych will be called murderers, not fathers of the nation, when history will be taught at school at historical events, we'll see. Even if they start shouting all over their 404 Ukraine and Russia, there’s no faith for them. A whole country of freeloaders. They ruined what they had for the sake of lace panties, let them now wear it. The difference in mentality really makes us different nations.
            1. Douglas
              Douglas 9 February 2016 13: 55 New
              +8
              The difference in mentality really makes us different nations.

              There is only one mentality. They are simply confused. We will understand this, but later. They try to scold us. Because they know when we are in the place we are strong. Therefore, patience, patience.
              1. Mula
                Mula 11 February 2016 06: 48 New
                0
                Something long they got confused! Ukrainians, as well as Poles, became parostitutami. Some were drawn to Evropa, others became panes, but they just got rid of them as always, and they blamed Russia for this!
            2. demchuk.ig
              demchuk.ig 10 February 2016 16: 16 New
              0
              Quote: avdkrd
              . Even if they start shouting all over their 404 Ukraine and Russia, there’s no faith for them. A whole country of freeloaders. They ruined what they had for the sake of lace panties, let them now wear it. The difference in mentality really makes us different nations.

              You can still remember how many times they betrayed Russia in the past!
          2. Dry_T-50
            Dry_T-50 9 February 2016 20: 42 New
            +9
            100500
            Already, people in Ukraine are nostalgic for the old days of Yushchenko-Yanukovich. And Europe has refugees, so they will not accept Ukrainians
        3. KVS
          KVS 9 February 2016 12: 31 New
          +1
          and why on us these freeloaders?
        4. Belgorod
          Belgorod 9 February 2016 12: 35 New
          16
          My brother lives in the North Caucasus. Last year, we had a rest in Chechnya; we were shocked; we carried it on our hands.
          In general, I will tell you the North Caucasus for us it is terra incognita (especially for young people).
          The beauty!!!! Honey and Chegem waterfalls, Blue Lakes, etc., etc.
          What about jaul baur?
          There is an urgent need to hold the Olympics (or something similar)
          That is, invest money and we will rest there
          1. user
            user 9 February 2016 12: 48 New
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            That is, invest money and we will rest there


            Oh oh
            In my youth, I also thought exactly about the Pamirs and the Tien Shan, but what do we have in the end? Civil war, mass exclusion from the Central Asian republics. And my parents remember, they play two boys, about 3 years old. One loves Uzbek, the other speaks no Russian and they don’t need any translator, they understood each other anyway, and they drink tea with axokal and also without an interpreter, they removed the wattle and daub from him .
            Question: and where did it all go?
            1. shuhartred
              shuhartred 9 February 2016 13: 37 New
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              Quote: user
              And my parents remember, they play two boys, about 3 years old. One mates in Uzbek, the other in Russian and they don’t need any translator, and so they understood each other

              And children generally understand each other. They communicate with emotions, not words. Small 4 now, he says more or less. But two years ago, I came to the kindergarten, and he was there "talking" with the same toddler. There is no such language on Earth at all !!!! And they nod to each other, laugh at something. The most interesting thing is that educators understand them, but I do not !!!!
            2. LeftPers
              LeftPers 10 February 2016 12: 54 New
              +6
              I completely agree, in 1973, as a child, I was relaxing with my parents in Dushanbe and Leninabad, as the locals were bombarded with watermelons, tortillas, etc. They treated us very well.
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 9 February 2016 23: 01 New
            +5
            I have many friends of immigrants from the Caucasus. A people with their own mentality, friendly, with character. And we have something to learn from them.
        5. pinaeff pizdez wsem
          pinaeff pizdez wsem 10 February 2016 23: 13 New
          0
          Chuvaaaaaa ... and you're right
        6. Pasha
          Pasha 11 February 2016 19: 33 New
          +1
          Not true. The bandits came to Chechnya and bent everyone, the weak leadership of the country could not do anything, some of them helped. "Comrade" Berezovsky & Co., the partition of divided Russia was planned. The fact that Chechnya was restored for Russian money, what's wrong with that, or is it necessary for the states to be restored.? There, bandits and those who joined them were slaughtered and cut out, we still learn a lot what happened there, and how the heroes of our time sawed through the country. People who disgraced their ROD, their troops. The hardest time, God forbid that our children never see or feel the 90s.
      2. Thrall
        Thrall 9 February 2016 11: 16 New
        42
        The paradox is that in its current form, Ukraine does not need anyone.
        1. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 9 February 2016 11: 26 New
          +7
          That's for sure, the political crown of Ukraine first of all cares about their pockets ..... and the country does not interest them at all, confusion and vacillation in the whole state, except for Russia, this country is not needed by anyone! who needs a bunch of "democratic crap" and even of Russian origin - Europe ??? I deeply doubt that the project itself was needed to annoy Russia, and now nobody needs nafig ...
      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain 9 February 2016 11: 34 New
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        Quote: sniper
        A very difficult question ... Over the years, Russophobia has been driven into the heads of the population so firmly,

        Exactly, Novorossia as a part of Russia should be this, and let the Galicia together with the junta from Kukuev go wherever they wanted, even to Europe, to hell, even to Obama’s ass, all of them are problems first of all to Ukraine itself. hi
      4. Ostost
        Ostost 9 February 2016 13: 29 New
        -23 qualifying.
        Russian dreamers - you need to reconcile that Ukraine has long been by you, that is, lost, and the faster you and your leadership understand this, the less problems there will be in Ukrainian-Russian relations. I understand that phantom post-imperial pains are very strong, but make an effort on yourself. Ukraine has made its civilizational choice and it is clearly not directed towards the Russian Federation, for one simple reason - you have nothing to offer as a center of attraction - there is no ideology, a commodity economy that depends on oil prices, rampant corruption and theft, lack of freedom, etc. Unfortunately for you, this is true. Happy to stay.
        1. Hecate
          Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 36 New
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          But I do not need any relations with Bandera Ukraine and Bandera is not needed in the Russian Federation, do not come to the Russian Federation. Patriots of Ukraine have to go home, stop wiping your pants in the Russian Federation and paint Russian fences in the colors of the Ukrainian flag. Your Ukraine, this is what in 1654 became part of Russia and not a centimeter more. Dnepropetrovsk, this is Russian Yekaterinoslav, and your Ukraine is beyond the Dnieper, in the West, and not everywhere.
        2. Douglas
          Douglas 9 February 2016 13: 41 New
          0
          Russian dreamers - you need to reconcile that Ukraine has long been by you, that is, lost, and the faster you and your leadership understand this, the less problems there will be in Ukrainian-Russian relations. I understand that phantom post-imperial pains are very strong, but make an effort on yourself. Ukraine has made its civilizational choice and it is clearly not directed towards the Russian Federation, for one simple reason - you have nothing to offer as a center of attraction - there is no ideology, a commodity economy that depends on oil prices, rampant corruption and theft, lack of freedom, etc. Unfortunately for you, this is true. Happy to stay.

          Yes, buddy, you are 100% right. But in RUSSIA, understanding is slowly coming that they were going the wrong way. While not everyone understands this. This is a slow process. The crisis and oil at 10 per barrel. It will help RUSSIA. I hope there will be no revolution in RUSSIA, and Putin will take the liberals away from economic management. Then my brother, we will flee to RUSSIA. Therefore, we will wait.
          1. tolian
            tolian 9 February 2016 17: 16 New
            +4
            A good word is "wait." But ...... neither me nor you will have to live in this wonderful time. Only after a few generations can one hope for the epiphany of the galloping.
        3. tolian
          tolian 9 February 2016 17: 12 New
          +4
          How clearly in your comment you can see the processing at the cost of 5 billion green of your brain! Have you studied history? Have you read Hitler’s works? Or are you just a black-and-white writer?
          1. pinaeff pizdez wsem
            pinaeff pizdez wsem 10 February 2016 23: 27 New
            0
            Cho for replies to non-existing comments? Moders, good thump! Do you even delete the branch completely ..
        4. Dart2027
          Dart2027 9 February 2016 18: 56 New
          19
          Quote: OstOst
          Ukraine made its civilizational choice and it is clearly not directed towards the Russian Federation

          I want to tell you, panov, what is our partnership. You heard from fathers and grandfathers that everyone had our land in honor: they let themselves know to the Greeks, and took chervontsy from Constantinople, and the cities were magnificent, and princes, princes, princes of the Russian family, their princes, and not Catholic distrusts . Everyone took the Busurmans, everything was gone. We only stayed, orphans, yes, like a widow after a strong husband, and our land is lilac, just like us! That is the time at which we, comrades, gave a hand to the brotherhood! That is what our partnership stands on! There are no holier partnerships! A father loves his child, a mother loves his child, a child loves his father and mother. But that's not it, brothers: the beast also loves its child. But only a person can become related by kinship to the soul, and not by blood. There were comrades in other lands, but there were no such comrades like those in the Russian land. You have happened more than once to disappear in a foreign land; you see people there too! also a man of God, and you will converse with him as with yours; and how it comes to telling a heartfelt word, you see: no, smart people, but not those; the same people, but not those! No, brothers, to love like the Russian soul, to love not only with the mind or with anything else, but with all that God has given you, whatever is in you, but Taras said, and waved his hand, and shook his gray-haired head, and blinked his mustache, and said: No, nobody can love like that! I know that a vile thing has now begun on our land; they only think that they should have bread stacks with them, ricks and their horse herds, so that their sealed honey should be intact in the cellars. Adopt the devil knows what Busurman customs; abhor their tongue; he doesn’t want to speak with his own; he sells his own, as they sell the soulless in the trading market. The mercy of an alien king, and not a king, but the meager mercy of a Polish magnate who, with his yellow forelock, hits them in the face, is more dear to them than any brotherhood. But the last bastard, whatever he may be, even though he fell all out in soot and worship, has that, brothers, a grain of Russian feeling. And someday it will wake up, and it will hit, miserable, on the floors with his hands, grab itself by the head, cursing its vile life loudly, ready to atone for the shame with torment. Let them all know what partnership means in the Russian land! Well, for that matter, to die, so none of them will ever die like that! .. Nobody, nobody! .. They don’t have enough of their mouse nature for that!
          1. ver_
            ver_ 11 February 2016 07: 18 New
            -6
            ... Constantinople = Constantinople was founded by Dmitry Donskoy = Constantine the Great, This is the capital of Russia after the fall of Troy and is located 40 km from it ... The fall and destruction of Troy is the "merit" of Christ = Prince Andrei Bogolyubsky .. He deserved his reign crucifixion .. that is what his relatives sentenced him to. This is the mentality of the Khokhlov (a vigorous mixture of Jews and Slavs ..)
        5. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 9 February 2016 20: 46 New
          +2
          No problem. But we will take into account the criticism.
        6. demchuk.ig
          demchuk.ig 10 February 2016 16: 28 New
          +1
          [quote] [/ quote] [quote = OstOst] Ukraine made its civilizational choice and it is clearly not directed towards the Russian Federation.
          Yes, about the "civilized" choice, you very precisely noticed! On the Maidan, "civilization" was overwhelmed! And in Donbas, how rushing!
        7. GriggoT
          GriggoT 10 February 2016 18: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: OstOst
          Russian dreamers - you need to reconcile that Ukraine has long been by you, that is, lost, and the faster you and your leadership understand this, the less problems there will be in Ukrainian-Russian relations

          Most likely, it is YOU, from Ukraine, who - will have to come to terms with the fact that Russia cannot or will not want to forgive YOU. You would understand your phantom pains! ABOUT YOURSELF you can tell the truth, or not given ?! I got your nonsense!
      5. SuperVodka777
        SuperVodka777 11 February 2016 00: 34 New
        -11 qualifying.
        You yourself drove it better than anyone, and yes, we still have one problematic region in the world, Russia is called.
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 11 February 2016 06: 47 New
          +2
          You yourself drove it better than anyone, and yes, we still have one problematic region in the world, Russia is called.

          If everything is clear, why sit on the websites of the invaders? belay
          From Ukraine, it seems that in our eyes, the specks are more visible, you are our problem-free. Yes, ours, because nobody else in the world needs you anywhere else, only Russia has been wandering with you for several centuries.
          Didn’t you try to grow up?
        2. Mula
          Mula 11 February 2016 06: 58 New
          0
          You would better understand the pander banderlogs with the Farther, they left you without missiles and submarines, not many more and they will take the lead in digging out the Black Sea at the same time they will take fat! Drisci pestrozade!
        3. yuriy55
          yuriy55 11 February 2016 15: 42 New
          0
          Quote: SuperVodka777
          You yourself drove it better than anyone, and yes, we still have one problematic region in the world, Russia is called.


          This is yours, this region is problematic. You have one problem with this region, you can’t make him dance to the American Saxophone, you can’t call the black crow into your flock. Just like in the song:
      6. El_Alma_Herida
        El_Alma_Herida 11 February 2016 09: 05 New
        +1
        Let’s open all the propaganda textbooks together and quickly drive the love for us into the Ukrainians. As practice shows, creating public opinion is not so difficult. if it would be beneficial for our leadership that we hate Ukrainians, then during the month of propaganda in the media we were about the same aggressive. At least most of us.
    2. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 9 February 2016 10: 43 New
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      And we don’t need all of it ... nafig ... let the Zapadentsy bring to Poland ... the central and southeastern part to Russia ...
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 9 February 2016 11: 19 New
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        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        let zapadentsy bring to Poland ...


        Is it in vain that blood was shed for this land? All Russian land must return to Russia. Whoever doesn’t like it, can go wherever he wants.
        I applaud this article standing!
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 9 February 2016 11: 43 New
          +3
          Does Russia need it in its current form? Ukraine needs this, especially after the final plundering of all resources. The oligarchs there do not mind clinging to the Russian economy. the population is waiting for handouts, their own Russia "robbed, and then raped during the USSR."
          The possibility of entering certain regions can be discussed, but then, when these regions themselves mature, and Russia can integrate them.
        2. Inok10
          Inok10 9 February 2016 11: 51 New
          +8
          Quote: Sergei Medvedev
          Is it in vain that blood was shed for this land? All Russian land must return to Russia. Whoever doesn’t like it, can go wherever he wants.
          I applaud this article standing!

          ... I completely agree ... only in its entirety ... well, let the good banderlogs bring down to Poland they will be very happy there ... simple Poles ... they will quickly explain to the broad ones that their place is at the bucket ... hi
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 9 February 2016 12: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        And we don’t need all of it ... nafig ... let the Zapadentsy bring to Poland ... the central and southeastern part to Russia ...

        As an economic and trading partner, we must work with everyone. As a subsidized and dysfunctional region, at the moment, it certainly does not make sense. Taxes are already on tires and soda is introduced. The budget is empty. Efforts should be concentrated on the restructuring and revival of our economy, and only then take on the neighbors.
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        2. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 9 February 2016 17: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Al1977
          focus on the restructuring and revival of our economy, and only then take on the neighbors.


          And who undertakes them? Managed, let them clean themselves.
    3. Marconi41
      Marconi41 9 February 2016 10: 43 New
      25
      Quote: Wend
      On the one hand, Ukraine needs Russia,

      And from which side?
      If Ukraine will become the South-Western district of Russia, then in the very, very distant future. At the moment, the hatred of the people of our countries is double-edged. Russia is now Ukraine (if it becomes part of the Russian Federation) and will not stretch, and itself will tear. So, let this suitcase without a handle still lie on the European expanses without our participation. Few Slavs exist in the world without our participation.
      1. Vend
        Vend 9 February 2016 10: 55 New
        21
        Quote: Marconi41
        Quote: Wend
        On the one hand, Ukraine needs Russia,

        And from which side?
        At the moment, the hatred of the people of our countries is double-edged. Russia is now Ukraine (if it becomes part of the Russian Federation) and will not stretch, and itself will tear. So, let this suitcase without a handle still lie on the European expanses without our participation. Few Slavs exist in the world without our participation.
        Hatred exists in a small number of people. It's just that they are mostly in sight. I have relatives in Donetsk under the militias and in Krasnoarmeysk under the APU. There is something to compare. You may not tear yourself up, but you will have to pour a lot of finances there. The main thing if this happens is that there should not be any Ukrainian republic, but a Russian district. There will be a lot of work.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 10: 58 New
          +8
          Ukraine will be the Southwestern Federal District
          not in this life... No.
          1. 17085
            17085 9 February 2016 11: 53 New
            10
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Ukraine will be the Southwestern Federal District in this life ...


            Never say never"
            About Crimea, too, they thought so, only not many believed ...
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 12: 11 New
              +2
              Quote: 17085
              About Crimea, too, they thought so, only not many believed ...

              Nothing that the Crimea and the outskirts are different things? Or in the Crimea, too, galloped, and screamed Moskolyakunagilyaku? request and not in this life, it is NOT ever.
              1. 17085
                17085 9 February 2016 17: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: Andrew Y.
                Quote: 17085
                About Crimea, too, they thought so, only not many believed ...

                Nothing that the Crimea and the outskirts are different things? Or in the Crimea, too, galloped, and screamed Moskolyakunagilyaku? request and not in this life, it is NOT ever.


                It doesn’t matter at all what they scream ... Today, one yakunagilaku, tomorrow another yakunagilaku ... Everything is being treated. In addition to AIDS and cancer, and so far ...

                I remember the times when they did not believe, did not even think that the USSR would fall apart.

                After the revolution, too, no one believed that Russia would return to its borders.

                The main thing is to believe and work ...
              2. agbykov
                agbykov 10 February 2016 21: 05 New
                -1
                But have you sent a Cossack? See http://alexandr-rogers.livejournal.com/590816.html
        2. Marconi41
          Marconi41 9 February 2016 11: 07 New
          +9
          Quote: Wend
          Tear can not tear

          Oh well. Do you know what the official debt of Ukraine is? Do you want to take all of it during the period of sanctions? The IMF will laugh at such joy and take off our last pants. As for people, so the main emphasis of the Maidan is made in youth. And to redraw the minds of this generation, you need a lot of time. Otherwise, as in 45, we’ll run through the forests and catch them, so that we won’t be crap.
          1. Hecate
            Hecate 9 February 2016 11: 28 New
            11
            It is necessary to introduce the death penalty for terrorism and no amnesties. And Bandera is the terrorists.
          2. Hecate
            Hecate 9 February 2016 11: 30 New
            +7
            Ukraine’s debt is the problem of the galloping part of Ukraine, to which all Bandera people must be evicted and returned to Poland. They do not want to pay the Russian Federation for the debts of Yanukovych, so the Russian Federation should not pay the debts of the Rabbit and the Pig.
          3. Vend
            Vend 9 February 2016 11: 38 New
            +9
            Quote: Marconi41
            Quote: Wend
            Tear can not tear

            Oh well. Do you know what the official debt of Ukraine is? Do you want to take all of it during the period of sanctions? The IMF will laugh at such joy and take off our last pants. As for people, so the main emphasis of the Maidan is made in youth. And to redraw the minds of this generation, you need a lot of time. Otherwise, as in 45, we’ll run through the forests and catch them, so that we won’t be crap.

            Debt is inherited by the country. If the country disappears, Ukraine will have no one to demand from. Lenders will either take land (the western part of Ukraine), or on some terms will own part of the property there. Judging by the events, they will receive part of the pipe’s shares. Why is Ukraine being kept in order not to fall apart? And then no one will demand debts. So even the ghost of hope that they will pay laughing And svidomye on the head, will defend western Ukraine, as the heir to all of Ukraine. That's who the debt will be laughing
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 9 February 2016 13: 10 New
              +7
              Quote: Wend
              And svidomye on the head, will defend western Ukraine, as the heir to all of Ukraine. That's who the debt will be

              ... only within such boundaries ... maximum ... hi
          4. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 February 2016 11: 43 New
            0
            For us this Klondike: banditry, extremism, devastation, betrayal - the guys will go "forest", and not by joining Russia.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 9 February 2016 12: 02 New
              11
              Quote: Vadim237
              For us this Klondike: banditry, extremism, devastation, betrayal - the guys will go "forest", and not by joining Russia.

              ... well, you don’t want to get the NATO bridgehead with a distance of 480 km. from Sumy region to Moscow ... remember the geography! ... if not us, so us ... recall what Joseph Vissarionovich did in 1940 ?! ... Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Western Ukraine and the correctness of its actions has been confirmed by history ... a map is attached ... hi
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 9 February 2016 19: 55 New
                -9
                NATO does not pose any threat to Russia at all - if at once all the tails are crushed.
          5. Belgorod
            Belgorod 9 February 2016 12: 42 New
            +2
            So Ukraine will remain due (Kyev and Lviv)
        3. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 9 February 2016 17: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Wend
          You may not tear yourself up, but you will have to pour a lot of finances there

          And if we overstrain? Maybe enough experiments already. If they really wanted to go to Russia, one would still think. But in this situation ... let them go ... to Europe. Let the Europeans pull them on their humps. It is a pity if our "non-brothers" will live well, in a European way. They have made their choice several times during the election of their own. And inaction, excuse me for a moment, is also a kind of choice. Full of problems, enough to make happy "gabons with Mozambique".
          And in the end I want to remind you. Actually, according to the Ukrainian authorities, we are in a state of war with them. And they have already "defeated" our army three times, and they simply left Buryatia without a male population, including nursing boys and decrepit old people.
    4. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 9 February 2016 10: 44 New
      34
      Are you kidding me? As after the war 08.08.08. - all Georgians, dissatisfied with the state of things, gathered manat and went from South Ossetia to Tbilisi, where they still live. Open the border with Poland and forward, most Svidomo will leave themselves, the rest will be indicated by our people and their kicks, kicks. Let the Poles hang out for the right to clean the English toilets.
    5. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 9 February 2016 10: 44 New
      +7
      Nooo, these jumping "brothers" let them organize themselves in the Bandera Zoo and live there hohlocompactly. They've almost built the wall, so don't bother ...! If recovery occurs, then the issue of living side by side can be considered, but the fence should not be removed immediately, only section by section, as you receive certificates from psychiatrists in the regions! stop
      1. Simon
        Simon 9 February 2016 11: 43 New
        13
        In 1991, the liberals led our country to almost the same thing, which caused the Union to fall apart. True, our people did not jump, but built barricades, in fact, a civil war was already going on. Yeltsin spoke from the tank, and Gaidar ran around the barricades. After which, for almost 10 years, under the advice of American advisers from the CIA, we were ruining our economy, the army was almost completely destroyed, the soldiers were starving. Gangsterism and corruption developed everywhere, salaries were not given out for months, but where and for years, the oligarchs grew by leaps and bounds and all capital was withdrawn abroad. Fortunately, Yeltsin, realized in time his mistake, resigned and appointed Putin after him. Pot Putin is still correcting his mistakes. I think that Russia is on the right track and Ukraine will soon come to its senses and turn to face us. Because native roots are not so easy to tear, they have the ability to recover. yes
        1. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 9 February 2016 17: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Simon
          Because native roots are not so easy to tear, they have the ability to recover.


          Not sure. The generation of 20 - 25 years old is the "Coca - Cola - Pepsi - Cola" generation. You can't fix them. Unfortunately.
        2. ver_
          ver_ 11 February 2016 07: 26 New
          0
          ... he did not leave - he was very democratically "left" ..
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 9 February 2016 10: 48 New
      +4
      Not ... "died, so died ..." recourse
      1. 2С5
        2С5 9 February 2016 10: 53 New
        +2
        ... What are you, dear? "Shchenevmerla!", But just about ... lol
    7. Proxima
      Proxima 9 February 2016 10: 48 New
      +8
      It is worth hoping for Bismarck's prophetic words that the Russian people are inherently united, they can be temporarily divided up by various treatises, but later they will reunite again like drops of mercury. Let me remind you that for Bismarck, Russians are Great Russians, Little Russians, Belarusians.
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 9 February 2016 10: 59 New
        24
        The article is a lot about the economy - guys, I dig in from morning to night, and I don’t want to feed this horde of galloping Euro-degenerates. hi
      2. Executer
        Executer 9 February 2016 11: 18 New
        -3
        Adlya Bismarck is German. And what is good for a German ...
    8. Finches
      Finches 9 February 2016 11: 06 New
      12
      The reunification of Ukraine with Russia is the right term, namely vossociation!
      There is already Minsk 2, then why not happen and Pereslavl 2?

      But if you recall history, then the agreement on the adoption of Ukraine into the Russian Empire was a difficult and painful decision for the then leadership. Everyone understood that this means a war with the Commonwealth, as now, it can cause a military conflict with NATO! And only after this understanding, it is necessary to consider economic indicators!

      P.S. As I once wrote - Reunion, but only without the geographical Trichomonas - Galicia! Let it remain to the delight of the Europeans!
      1. Hecate
        Hecate 9 February 2016 11: 26 New
        0
        NATO is already laying claim to Russian Siberia, so it’s time to teach them a lesson, and so that the United States is less impudent, deliver a massive missile attack on Turkey, cruise missiles, with tactical nuclear warheads. NATO has become insolent and it’s impossible to tolerate further NATO attacks on the Russian Federation. Enough to back off, and so everyone has leaked, otherwise the Russian Federation will also be salt, as the USSR was leaked
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 9 February 2016 14: 34 New
          -5
          Quote: Hecate
          NATO has become insolent and it’s impossible to tolerate further NATO attacks on the Russian Federation. Enough to back off, and so everyone has leaked, otherwise the Russian Federation will also be salt, as the USSR was leaked

          The author of these lines has already received cons. But still this is a very dangerous point of view. When the solution of internal problems comes down to a war with other states. Examples of history teach how catastrophic this is. It is necessary to build a strong state, then others will be respected and their inhabitants will be happy. The world is full of countries without nuclear weapons and with a very high life. Rockets are one of the tools, not a panacea for problems.
          1. Hecate
            Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 42 New
            +5
            This is not the Russian Federation climbing to the borders of NATO, this NATO is climbing to the borders of the Russian Federation. This is not the Russian Federation that supplied the weapons and money of the militants in Turkey, this Turkey supplied the Islamic terrorists with money and weapons to Dudaev and treated them on its territory. This is Turkey shot down a plane of the Russian Federation. Turkey must pay for all the evil inflicted by the Russian Federation. Nobody keeps you in the Russian Federation, leave for these countries.
            1. Al1977
              Al1977 10 February 2016 09: 56 New
              -1
              Quote: Hecate
              Nobody keeps you in the Russian Federation, leave for these countries.

              I am a citizen of Russia and love this country. In honor of what I have to go somewhere.
              You propose to unleash a war with the whole world. From this, my life will deteriorate sharply, up to its stop. So I will ask you to move to another country. War is enough for my country. What you have listed, of course, is not fair, but in no way relates to the standard of living in the country. Why don't you start fighting those who steal government money, manage resources ineptly, use the bureaucratic apparatus for personal enrichment. Or is it a lesser evil. than the Turks in Syria? Judging by your "foreign policy orientation", it is you who have been living outside the country for a long time, not me.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 9 February 2016 11: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Finches
        as now, it could cause a military conflict with NATO!



        Hm ... NATO (in particular, specifically the USA) is already looking for reasons to complicate relations between our countries and practically run into war ... Not Ukraine - so Syria, not Syria - so Honduras, but they will always find a reason ... And I don’t think that it is precisely because of Ukraine that NATO will get involved with Russia directly in the war ...

        Why ??? Yes, because Russia has historical reasons for reuniting, joining territories given over by stupidity, and the United States and NATO, which side of Ukraine belong to ???

        This is me if someone has to make excuses at the UN because of their actions ...

        However, the United States has long been put to the UN, and even if it fools around in the head, the war will not be at all because of Ukraine, but because of mutual non-acceptance and desire to seize our territories and bowels ...
    9. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 February 2016 11: 38 New
      +3
      Yes, this Ukraine has gone to the hell of a damn — for them to give the debts to the European Union — let it devour itself from the inside on.
    10. Douglas
      Douglas 9 February 2016 11: 49 New
      0
      On the one hand, Russia needs Ukraine, and on the other, this huge amount of money will have to be thrown in there. This will have to start the fight against Svidomo and corruption. And these twa_ri will crawl to Russia.

      What kind of corruption, you can’t cope with the pile.
    11. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 9 February 2016 12: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Wend
      This will have to start the fight against Svidomo and corruption.

      Well, we have a lot of corruption, and there is enough corruption, and there are fighters against it (Serdyukov, the Vostochny cosmodrome is just the first thing that comes to mind).

      But with Svidomo how to fight? The only effective option for us Joseph Vissarionych told us - am... So try to catch them now in the woods and put them against the wall - again liberals of all stripes will raise a howl - "The 37th year is back! Aaaaaa!"

      I think, in its current form, Ukraine, we do not need FIG. They must be ill themselves, as we were ill with a chickenpox. Must themselves grow wiser, must themselves Svidomo hang up on posts. All who jumped should naturally die out. Maybe their grandchildren will not be so jumping ... And then our grandchildren will talk to them.

      50 years later ...

      In the meantime, such Ukraine as now is hemorrhoids, which we have enough without them ...

      And by the way, about corruption. Lee Kuan Yew, whose experience and success in fighting corruption in Singapore is hard to deny, once said
      A leader who decides to fight corruption should first make three of his friends. He knows what they can be imprisoned for. And they know ...
      So, while Yakunin, Serdyukov and Vasilyeva and others are walking, and for a ticketless fare on the bus a fine by hanging - it’s better not to talk about our corruption at all ...
      1. Douglas
        Douglas 9 February 2016 15: 59 New
        0
        Well, we have a lot of corruption, and there is enough corruption, and there are fighters against it (Serdyukov, the Vostochny cosmodrome is just the first thing that comes to mind).

        But how to deal with Svidomo? The only viable option Iosif Vissarionich told us was am. So try to catch them now in the woods and put them against the wall - again liberals of all stripes will raise a howl - "The 37th year is back! Aaaaaa!"

        AUTHOR BRAVO good
    12. Blondy
      Blondy 9 February 2016 12: 40 New
      -1
      Let us recall the words of the President: "every year, like fools, we just poured 15-17 billion dollars into Ukraine for nothing." It turns out that we will be more evil than fools and will be invaders until the end of the century, which "ate our fat." Where will the local oligarchs go, will they really carry out nationalization in some places?
    13. Bayun
      Bayun 9 February 2016 12: 58 New
      +1
      Ukraine is like a self-asserting teenager. An American uncle, a prisoner, drags her into the web of criminal "street" romance. What does Mother-Russia not like there? Fascists. I will be a "fascist" to spite her. Work? And why, the uncle-prisoner draws money and will give it to me, it is only necessary for Mamma to crap: drink, smoke, swear.

      How will it end? So, the author is right - uncle-zek will rape, beat and throw. Where to go? To Mom's house.

      PS: Brothers, what is done with the flags? Yesterday I was in the EU, today it is already in the USA, although I didn’t leave Russia;)
    14. Dewa1s
      Dewa1s 9 February 2016 13: 05 New
      0
      I did not expect this from Wasserman, but he frankly distorts the facts.
      The article describes well why Russia is needed Ukraine.
      However, I personally do not quite understand why of Russia may be required Ukraine.
      1. Hecate
        Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 44 New
        +6
        But Russia does not need Ukraine. Russia needs to return the territory of Russia, which Ukraine grabbed from Russia. Ukraine became part of Russia in 1654, within strictly defined borders. With what they came, so let them go ...
    15. Sailor
      Sailor 10 February 2016 12: 58 New
      +1
      And corruption in the independence is an order of magnitude higher, I saw it when Crimea was still part of it.
    16. SuperVodka777
      SuperVodka777 11 February 2016 00: 33 New
      -2
      Yes, you think correctly. Therefore, it is better to leave the Donbass and let us join NATO and live with civilized people. And enclose yourself with a fence, fight homosexuals there and praise Putin and your oligarchs, maybe his daughter will ascend the throne, who knows. It is advisable to do this quickly, until Obama cut your salaries even more and did not write in the doorways.
    17. El_Alma_Herida
      El_Alma_Herida 11 February 2016 09: 03 New
      0
      They will put there a more or less normal oligarch at the head, who will steal in moderation, but the region will completely think of itself and begin to rebuild. and you’ll have to push money. but the most important thing is that all this will quickly pay off. In Ukraine, industry and agriculture can be quickly launched.
    18. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 11 February 2016 13: 58 New
      0
      Russia needs Ukraine only as a geopolitical territory. Let the population go to Europe and America. This is the best option.
      Both Wasserman, Lenin, and Marx are all wrong when they say that economic unity will necessarily lead to political unity. Economic unity was back in 1990, but the Baltic states needed the usual slavish-subordinate unity with Europe, and the Ukrainians had the same unity with Poland. Being equal and free in a free country is unacceptable to them. Therefore, all economic theories of Wasserman must be replaced by socio-psychiatric. Otherwise, do not understand anything.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 February 2016 10: 33 New
    +9
    "In principle, no one but the rest of Russia needs Ukraine as a producing structure. And moreover, no one will ever need it."

    Well, do we need it in THIS quality?
    1. valera
      valera 9 February 2016 10: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Well, do we need it in THIS quality?

      Well, we’re good-natured. Ukrainian starving people will crawl, and we will rebuild the country again and they will call us brothers again. We will hang our ears like fools and forgive. And you need to help, and it’s okay that yesterday your relative wanted to hang you on a dumbbell.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 9 February 2016 11: 09 New
        +1
        "Well, we are kind"
        So in the end it will be, and even the balts will crawl, and we will take them (although it would be better to make a fire at first).
        1. valera
          valera 9 February 2016 11: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Igor V
          So in the end it will be, and even the balts will crawl, and we will take them (although it would be better to make a fire at first).

          It’s a good idea to take back the tragic mistake of the Pribalons under guardianship, but it would be nice to return the Russians and the representatives of the indigenous Russian peoples from their republics. I read the news the other day, the black migrant of a sprat dunked to death, oh, what a tragedy.
          I personally for what would be put in ruin of our governor-generals in the future, otherwise we would do worse for ourselves.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 9 February 2016 11: 38 New
        +5
        Quote: Valera
        Ukrainian starvation creeps in, and we will rebuild the country again and they will call us brothers again



        They crawled already ... But they crawled somehow strangely ... On our territory they are hiding us as soon as they can ...

        Having heard and seen enough of the dashing "refugees", I do not want such brothers and a new federal district with the same thugs ...

        PS A fellow classmate has been struggling for the second year, suffering with the family of his son's mother-in-law, who came from Lugansk ... And he bought them an apartment and provided everything for them - and in response every day: "You got drunk here" (this is the softest) ... And this is said by people with higher education, Russian by nationality (and not by spirit), former members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and leading officials ... They curse Russia as soon as they can, but the current regime in Ukraine does not ... But they do not want to return there either ...

        Where is the logic ??? And people who are grown up on dill propaganda do not have it ...
        1. valera
          valera 9 February 2016 11: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: veksha50
          Where is the logic ??? And people who are grown up on dill propaganda do not have it ...

          And in such cases it was necessary to put in place. To say that in 91 you didn’t want to return to Russia, and as soon as the war started, they quickly ran and needed something, for the beginning, hide the bakery with your requests, otherwise you’ll get boldness according to Mordas. Russians have an eternal problem, they are very avid for someone else's grief.
        2. ver_
          ver_ 11 February 2016 07: 35 New
          -1
          ... these are the followers of Christ - it manifested itself quite well in the army - "a crest without a stripe - what ... without a plug .. - such a mentality .. - read from Taras Shevchenko ..
  3. A-Sim
    A-Sim 9 February 2016 10: 38 New
    +5
    This is a matter of distant perspective. At least a dozen years later.
    And then, with active work in this area.
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 9 February 2016 11: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: A-Sim
      At least a dozen years later.

      I think not one dozen, that's for sure.
  4. sgg
    sgg 9 February 2016 10: 39 New
    +4
    If only it were that simple. If it all came down to economic feasibility. Extremely unprofessional article.
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 9 February 2016 10: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: sgg
      If only it were that simple. If it all came down to economic feasibility. Extremely unprofessional article.

      Support!
      Wasserman is aging.
      All these productions, standards and requirements were not invented by the gods and not the gods were observing. During the Warsaw Pact, the Czech Republic was not really needed by anyone else, except for other socialist countries. camps. But in the 90s, Czech manufacturers instantly settled in European markets. Here it is not necessary to write that Ukrainians are worse than Czechs, Hungarians or Poles in something. They are the same. They are spoiled by the Soviet regime. They are aware of this, will begin to work, and they will succeed in whatever way they want.
      Ukraine will join Russia no sooner than Belarus does. Now, when Belarus becomes a subject of the Russian Federation, then it will be possible to reason about Ukraine. Not earlier.
      Only when Russia becomes the strongest and most powerful country in all respects in the world will the rest of the countries objectively reach for it. Especially the neighbors. There are no other conditions for reunion.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 9 February 2016 11: 48 New
        +5
        Have Czech manufacturers adapted to Western markets? They were adapted by pouring a lot of money into it! In the Baltics, the money has run out - de-industrialization (issued as a great change)! What option is waiting for Ukraine? Czech or Baltic? By the way, a lot of money is also needed to adapt to Russian standards ... In the meantime, no one will have free money for a galloping reserve! Maybe, of course, individual regions will spread in different directions, but exactly to the extent that these "sides" are able to digest them!
        IMHO
        PS I don’t understand how the Europeans didn’t think of solving the refugee problem - 4-5 Lard Seine and 1.5 million migrants from above! Or refugees are not a problem. ..
        1. Darkoff
          Darkoff 9 February 2016 15: 16 New
          0
          Quote: engineer74
          Did Czech manufacturers adapt to western markets? They adapted, dropping a lot of money there!

          In the field of machine tool industry I know a bunch of enterprises that are developing without foreign participation.
          It's just that people did not expect anything from anyone, but, without wasting time, began to improve their products.
          And we and Ukrainians should learn from Czech engineers how to quickly and cheaply create and implement new equipment.
      2. Fat
        Fat 9 February 2016 12: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: DarkOFF
        But in the 90s, Czech manufacturers instantly settled in European markets.

        What kind of production? Announce the entire list please. For some reason, nothing but Chezet and Skoda comes to mind. Skoda is now an Eastern European subsidiary of Volkswagen, and zbroevka is still a state-owned enterprise or a long-time joint-stock company is not clear.
        1. Darkoff
          Darkoff 9 February 2016 15: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: Thick
          Quote: DarkOFF
          But in the 90s, Czech manufacturers instantly settled in European markets.

          What kind of production? Announce the entire list please. For some reason, nothing but Chezet and Skoda comes to mind. Skoda is now an Eastern European subsidiary of Volkswagen, and zbroevka is still a state-owned enterprise or a long-time joint-stock company is not clear.

          Enlighten yourself.
          Machine tool building, the production of industrial machinery and equipment - we never dreamed of.

          Skoda develops its bodywork and manufactures itself.
          I have been working closely with Czechs for 10 years and have been there many times. I know what I'm writing about.
          1. Fat
            Fat 9 February 2016 16: 26 New
            0
            Quote: DarkOFF
            Enlighten yourself.
            Machine tool building, the production of industrial machinery and equipment - we never dreamed of.

            We dreamed and not like that. Somehow it happened that most of the information on the Czech industry dissolves in the "tintenwelk" (ink cloud) of the Internet. It is more appropriate now to talk about industry located in the Czech Republic All highly liquid was sold at meteor speed. The same expects the remains of Ukrainian industry
    2. Fat
      Fat 9 February 2016 12: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: sgg
      If only it were that simple. If it all came down to economic feasibility. Extremely unprofessional article.

      And how long has Anatoly Wasserman become a professional analyst? The article is his reasoned opinion and only, not an analytical report from Stratfor or SVR.
      You have extremely high requirements, especially "for a bum".
  5. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 9 February 2016 10: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    "In principle, no one but the rest of Russia needs Ukraine as a producing structure. And moreover, no one will ever need it."

    Well, do we need it in THIS quality?


    Moreover, who said that it will remain a manufacturing structure? request
    1. Samen
      Samen 9 February 2016 10: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Observer 33
      Moreover, who said that it will remain a manufacturing structure?

      The agricultural sector, the same - the "producing structure". And THIS is hard enough to take away or defile. Although, of course, you can. With time. I hope they won't be in time!
      hi
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 9 February 2016 10: 58 New
        0
        Well, the modern agricultural sector, the high-tech industry, backed up by a bunch of all kinds of industries ...
  6. shinobi
    shinobi 9 February 2016 10: 44 New
    +4
    In the form in which Ukraine is now, only the USA needs it, and so far it is useful in the form of a headache for the EU and Russia.
  7. Kupez4
    Kupez4 9 February 2016 10: 44 New
    0
    If such a situation arises, then we will not go anywhere, we will shelter a stupid "sister".
  8. Hecate
    Hecate 9 February 2016 10: 44 New
    10
    Russia needs to regain all the territories belonging to Russia, but it is not worthwhile to attach to Russia regions in which the majority of the population is represented by galloping Bandera scumbags. Such need to be deported to western Ukraine, including from the territory of the Russian Federation and returned to Poland. Enough for Bandera, at night, to paint the Russian fences in the colors of the Ukrainian flag, it would be time for them to clean their sartirs in their historic homeland. This is UNA-UNSO and others who fought against the Russian Federation on the side of Islamic terrorists Dudaev and in Russia such are not needed. If Poland does not accept them, let them die of hunger in their Carpathians ...
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 9 February 2016 10: 51 New
      +4
      ..... Russia needs to regain all the territories belonging to Russia, but it is not necessary to attach to Russia regions in which the majority of the population is represented by galloping Bandera scumbags ...

      ... I’m very disappointing if I say that the residents of the Poltava, Sumy, Dnipropetrovsk regions of Urkaina are very affected by Russophobic sentiments .... Probably more abruptly than the western regions ..... Yes .... I forgot to include the Kherson region .. . Unfortunately, but a fact .... hi
      1. Hecate
        Hecate 9 February 2016 10: 58 New
        +7
        Well these are not our problems. Ukraine, this is what became part of Russia in 1654 and nothing more. And those who do not like Russia, download to the railway. wagons and take them to Galicia, let them jump there, and in case of resistance shoot them on the spot. This audience, from UNA-UNSO and other Bandera gangs, fought against Russia on the side of Islamic terrorists Dudaev, and there is nothing to stand on ceremony with the bandits.
      2. Simon
        Simon 9 February 2016 11: 54 New
        +3
        When there is no money, the stomach is empty, the gas stove doesn’t warm and Europe doesn’t need you, then Russophobic moods end very quickly. request recourse fool
    2. agbykov
      agbykov 10 February 2016 21: 14 New
      0
      and give Kemsku parish ... :)
  9. potalevl
    potalevl 9 February 2016 10: 45 New
    +7
    Article plus. Only in the unity and indivisibility of Russia is its power.
  10. V.ic
    V.ic 9 February 2016 10: 48 New
    -1
    Something "guru" hit the crazy. Our oligarchs need the Russian economy only as a sticky one, and it is not kosher to support Russians in / in Ukraine according to the current "concepts". Minus, perhaps.
  11. evil partisan
    evil partisan 9 February 2016 10: 48 New
    0
    Wasserman - President of Ukraine!
  12. Dave36
    Dave36 9 February 2016 10: 50 New
    +3
    Wasserman used to say a lot, nothing came true ....
  13. Million
    Million 9 February 2016 10: 50 New
    0
    Why not? If you wish the Ukrainians themselves. But after cleansing from Bandera
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 9 February 2016 10: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Million
      Why not? If you wish the Ukrainians themselves. But after cleansing from Bandera

      And for forty years in the Takla-Makan desert. As the West Himalayan Sea will be in the place of the desert, then let them return.
  14. Masya masya
    Masya masya 9 February 2016 10: 50 New
    +7
    First, you need to put their brains in their place, and this is unrealistic in the foreseeable future ... From racing, a concussion ...
  15. Termit1309
    Termit1309 9 February 2016 10: 51 New
    +3
    the fact that Ukraine as a producing structure is needed by no one but the rest of Russia in principle.

    I’m afraid that soon Ukraine, as something producing a structure, will soon order a long life. And then nobody will need her. sad
  16. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 9 February 2016 10: 51 New
    +4
    Enough. They reunited twice and both times, having raised their economy, turned out to be "thieves", "holes", etc. If you add, then over the years, eradicate such a concept as Ukrainians, do not step on the rake of the previous rulers
  17. demo
    demo 9 February 2016 10: 51 New
    0
    "Burn the hearts of people with a verb."
    Correctly says Mr. Wasserman.
    Lies on the soul.
  18. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 9 February 2016 10: 53 New
    +2
    She has such a fate!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 February 2016 11: 48 New
      +2
      B / Ukraine is now the only way - to disappear forever.
  19. S-17
    S-17 9 February 2016 10: 54 New
    +1
    To begin with, let them clean the maydaunas from power and rebuild what they have broken in the last 20-10-5 years, and then you can reunite ...
  20. Colleague
    Colleague 9 February 2016 10: 56 New
    -1
    I think soon the father will be kissing the elda again at the Russian Tsar! Cry and look pityingly in the eyes!
  21. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 9 February 2016 10: 56 New
    +2
    Onotole something began to prophesy a lot. New Russia in its historical borders can still be endured as part of Russia, but dismiss Westernism.
  22. Abbra
    Abbra 9 February 2016 10: 56 New
    +3
    No, really ... New Russia, sooner or later, will become part of Russia. And, I assure you, true Russians will saturate her intellectually, physically and morally. And the capital ones - let them decide: to beat, or not to beat.
  23. nemec55
    nemec55 9 February 2016 10: 57 New
    +2
    Given the average distance of a car trip, which is characteristic of modern Western Europe, it is advisable to invest a lot of money in maintaining, improving and developing a network of roads of the highest technically possible quality. Given the average driving distance that is characteristic of the European part of Russia, including Ukraine, not to mention Siberia or Central Asia, it is advisable to invest the same money not in creating technically perfect roads, but in creating cars that do not need technically perfect roads.

    Logic iron everything wassat
  24. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 9 February 2016 10: 57 New
    +3
    Reasonable. Is logical. Unlikely.
  25. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 10: 59 New
    -2
    How long can you chew this topic - "in whole or in parts"? In general, did anyone ask xoxlov? They want to go to Europe, they don't want to have anything to do with us - and to hell with them, let them bring down. "Low tide will show who swam without panties" (c)
    Quote: Kupez4
    stupid little sister.

    yeah, again the "big brother" pose? Looking at others condescendingly from top to bottom is our everything. We continue to observe the floundering of xoxles with the contemplative "wheel" wisdom of Gogol's men.
  26. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 9 February 2016 11: 01 New
    +4
    Here I sit and think ...
    Will Ukrainians succeed in building
    democratic European state?
    Decided that, of course, succeed!
    Even - as many as five! )))
  27. Izotovp
    Izotovp 9 February 2016 11: 03 New
    +4
    About Ukraine as part of Slavic civilization, you can mostly forget. Even those who came to Russia suffer from this gayropic snobbery to one degree or another, but the vast majority. And so ... in the same ranks as Moldovans, Poles, Balts. They also forgot their story that we all, including East German, Austrian, Italian (although traces remained in many places !!) are from the same Slavic cauldron. Orcs, disfigured Slavs, fiercely hating everything that was originally Slavic and Russian. Another loss to our civilization and it is not clear what to do about it.
  28. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 9 February 2016 11: 05 New
    +3
    In general, guys:
    - If you move the enclosure with a tiger and a goat to Ukraine, and put there a Gazprom cleaner, then this news will occupy 99% of the entire information space.
  29. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 9 February 2016 11: 08 New
    +5
    There is no such country as "Ukraine". There are lands with the Russian people inhabiting these lands, having lost their brains from long-term fooling and belonging to Russia, but pumped by mediocre authorities.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 14: 04 New
      -3
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      There is no such country as "Ukraine"

      and the xoxls don’t know ... There it is ...
  30. magirus401
    magirus401 9 February 2016 11: 10 New
    +4
    But what about “we don’t abandon our own people, there are more than one million Russians, and they live throughout Ukraine, including in the western regions, what about them? I think there are no simple recipes, we need to change the top, let them work themselves not to fight, the people there are hard-working, they will feed themselves, but in what ways and methods to help them in this, this is a question, and there are a lot of people who want to prevent this ...
    1. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 11: 14 New
      +6
      And you don’t need to leave your own. I want to remind you how the Russians were squeezed out of the same Kazakhstan. I have two friends refugees, one from Almaty. Cheerful local guys come, give some money and say that he should get out, in 24 hours, to his Russia. So with these you need to do the same. To accept Russians in the Russian Federation, and to expel Bandera from the Russian Federation, at 24 hours, to Galicia, let them jump there.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 10 February 2016 02: 23 New
        -2
        Quote: Hecate
        I have two friends refugees, one from Almaty. Cheerful local guys come, give some money and say that he cleaned up at 24 o’clock in his Russia


        I myself am from Alma-Ata - but I have not heard of such cases! Nurik is censored sly, he acts much finer: they squeeze out the Russian language slowly but persistently!
        And to the censor who cut out my description of Nurik - I sincerely wish to go to Kazakhstan for the rest of my life and enjoy the wise guidance of Nurik, whom he loved so much! am am am
  31. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 9 February 2016 11: 12 New
    0
    We just do not need NATO forces, read the US forces on the territory of Ukraine. And mattresses need it only as a bridgehead. And the productive forces of Ukraine are completely unnecessary to either side. Especially west. When it comes to dill, then they themselves will bring Svidomo, like cockroaches.
  32. triglav
    triglav 9 February 2016 11: 12 New
    +5
    It's time to return the lost territory ...
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 11: 24 New
      -3
      Quote: triglav
      It's time to return the lost territory ...

      and the way you know? Cavalry attack, I think, is not excluded?
      1. Hecate
        Hecate 9 February 2016 11: 38 New
        +2
        Well, Kharkov, Lugansk and Donetsk cannot be taken away altogether, they are surrounded by the territories of the Russian Federation on three sides and the blow from three sides of the Russian army will be irresistible, and it’s time to take the Kharkov tank factory from Bandera. Matches and tanks are not a toy. All the Bandera herd from these territories deport, and shoot at resistance.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 11: 57 New
          -3
          Quote: Hecate
          and a blow from three sides of the Russian army will be irresistible

          Comrade Moltke, are you serious about the "blow of the Russian army"?
          "When will Comrade Putin send us into battle ..." Old songs about the main thing?
          Quote: Hecate
          and the Kharkov tank factory it is time to take away from Bandera

          Oh well. That is, is it correct to build escarps and trenches near Kharkiv? From an "irresistible blow"? laughing
          1. Hecate
            Hecate 9 February 2016 12: 01 New
            +3
            What do you want ?! Wait until 30000 UNA-UNSO militants again appear in Chechnya on Kharkov armored vehicles, as it was in the 90s ?! The enemy must be beaten on its territory, and not wait until these Bandera thugs again climb into the Russian Federation. If in order to set the brains of Bandera, it would be necessary to launch a nuclear strike on Lviv, I
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 12: 21 New
              -4
              Quote: Hecate
              If in order to set the brains of Bandera, it would be necessary to launch a nuclear strike on Lviv, I

              all clear. Help from a psychiatrist available?
              1. Hecate
                Hecate 9 February 2016 12: 32 New
                +3
                Help from a psychiatrist available - completely healthy. If you do not agree, then as soon as the Bandera again start fighting in Chechnya against the Russian Federation, you, in the forefront, must go to the front and compensate for all the damage done to the Russian Federation from your pockets. You want to start a war in the Russian Federation ... No, they openly write on Bandera sites such as Censor that Russia needs to be squeezed out for example Voronezh and the Kuban, I'm not talking about calls for terrorist acts in the Russian Federation ...
                1. Zeppelin ml.
                  Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 12: 46 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Hecate
                  .On Bandera sites, such as the Censor, no, they openly write about what needs to be squeezed from Russia, such as Voronezh and the Kuban, I'm not talking about calls for terrorist acts in the Russian Federation ...

                  and in one
                  Quote: Hecate
                  Hecate

                  writes quite
                  Quote: Hecate
                  open

                  that you need to bomb the xxlov back to the proto-tanks, and cut off the Kharkov tank from the main consumer of tanks with tank wedges. Question: than, in fact, comrade
                  Quote: Hecate
                  Hecate
                  differs from censor nerds, spreading on their site a crap about the removal of Kursk and Voronezh?
                  1. Hecate
                    Hecate 9 February 2016 12: 50 New
                    +6
                    http://censor.net.ua/forum/404921/plan_napadeniya_ukrainy_na_rossiyu На ссылке статья с украинского сайта Цензор.нет. Создана пользователем Мальбрук в 19 часов 36 мин 01.06.08 года. Статья называется - План нападения Украины на Россию... Я смотрю вам бандеровцы нравятся. Таким как вы стоит переехать во Львов,на ПМЖ... Мне вот бандеровцы не нужны и в Харькове тоже,поскольку Харьков не Украина. Украина ,это то,что вошло в состав России в 1654 году и ни сантиметра больше.
                    1. Dewa1s
                      Dewa1s 9 February 2016 13: 12 New
                      -2
                      Are you writing from a trench near Donbass or from a sofa?
                      1. Hecate
                        Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 22 New
                        +6
                        I was in the Donbass and in the Caucasus, but it’s time for the Ukrainian patriots to go home, it’s enough to wipe the pants in the Russian Federation and paint the Russian fences in the colors of the Ukrainian flag at night.
                    2. Zeppelin ml.
                      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 13: 22 New
                      -5
                      Quote: Hecate
                      So how are you worth moving to Lviv,

                      oh, another adviser to whom to do what and where to go. laughing
                      Quote: Hecate
                      I don’t need Bandera in Kharkov either, since Kharkov is not Ukraine.

                      Well, what is there to crucify? Travel to Kharkov, with a handwritten poster in your hands, where all of the above will be set out in an accessible form for Kharkov citizens. In principle, given the successes of applied traumatology, there are chances to survive.
                      1. Hecate
                        Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 43 New
                        +5
                        With a poster against Bandera assault rifles ?! Do not make me laugh. I was already there, not with a poster, but with SVD-K, although not quite in Kharkov. I served in the Caucasus and in UNA-UNSO I have a big tooth.
                      2. Zeppelin ml.
                        Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 13: 48 New
                        -5
                        Quote: Hecate
                        I have a big tooth.

                        it Your tooth. What does the Russian Armed Forces have to do with it?
                      3. Hecate
                        Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 51 New
                        +5
                        In Chechnya and Ossetia, Ukraine fought against the Russian Federation, killing Russian soldiers, so this is not only my tooth ....
                      4. Zeppelin ml.
                        Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 14: 13 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Hecate
                        In Chechnya and Ossetia, Ukraine fought against the Russian Federation, killing Russian soldiers

                        Well, then what? I apologize - will we take revenge on all hoxlam? Or selectively, divide into good and bad?
                      5. Hecate
                        Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 20 New
                        +4
                        Bandera herd fought against Russia, and the herd must be evicted from the Russian Federation and New Russia, and destroyed with resistance. Enemies are destroyed ...
                      6. Zeppelin ml.
                        Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 14: 43 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Hecate
                        , here is the herd and must be evicted from Russia and New Russia

                        how do you imagine eviction? Especially from New Russia, which, in fact, is not.
                      7. Hecate
                        Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 47 New
                        +5
                        There is Yekaterinoslav, who is still called Dnepropetrovsk and there are the borders of Ukraine, in which it became part of Russia in 1654. The expulsion of the Bandera herd from Russia should be undertaken by the BB and the Russian national guard, which many have been proposing to form since the 90s.
                      8. atalef
                        atalef 9 February 2016 14: 48 New
                        0
                        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                        how do you imagine eviction? Especially from New Russia, which, in fact, is not.

                        That damn dilemma, the herd is, but there is no place to evict. angry
                      9. Hecate
                        Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 51 New
                        +3
                        Should be evicted to Galicia and galloping Kiev, let them eat each other there, stop giving them loans and work in the Russian Federation.
    2. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 00 New
      +4
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3clyAFHDh4 На ссылке документальный фильм о уничтожении в Москве русским спецназом бандеровской банды террористов,готовившей несколько терактов в Москве.
    3. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 07 New
      +4
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNjJtsoW6BI На ссылке программа Военная тайна за 18.09.09 в которой бывший глава УНА-УНСО Дмитрий Корчинский сам признается в том,как он и его банда воевали против РФ на стороне исламских террористов Дудаева.
    4. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 17 New
      +4
      http://www.ruarchive.com/archives/3909 На ссылке программа Военная тайна за 11.09.09 о том как Украина воевала в 2008 году против РФ на стороне Саакашвили,снабжая его военной техникой и отправив ему на помощь свои войска.
    5. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 23 New
      +4
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJiFzpmdjsQ На ссылке программа Специальный корреспондент,о том,как Украина снабжала оружием и оказывала военную помощь Саакашвили в войне против РФ 2008 года.
    6. agbykov
      agbykov 10 February 2016 21: 20 New
      -5
      it seems that Hekata is a mishandled Cossack who works for the State Department, or just *** t.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 February 2016 11: 18 New
    +4
    Anatoly Wasserman, as always, is logical and not trivial. Do we need Ukraine in the form in which it is now? Of course no. They will understand what they have done. And I remember an old Texas joke. How to eat a bull? "Piece by piece! In my opinion, they have already begun."
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 11: 23 New
      -4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      and not commonplace.

      Yes? Which part?
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 9 February 2016 11: 20 New
    +1
    Ukrainians are an inalienable part of the Russian people, as can be seen from the fact that for the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian citizens their native language is Russian and their native culture is Russian,


    Yeah, the very part that with frenzy destroys the last monuments of the times of the USSR.
    No, thanks - we don't need such a "completely integral part"!
  • Stinger
    Stinger 9 February 2016 11: 22 New
    +1
    I do not know. Yesterday they already had tomorrow. And now, he and the rabbit seem to be fine. They make ugly armored monsters for victory in an imaginary war with Russia, dig anti-tank ditches, bask in the bourgeoisie. All are sent on. What else is needed for happiness?
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 9 February 2016 11: 22 New
    +4
    Quote: triglav
    It's time to return the lost territory ...

    Well, if only the territory, without Bandera scum ....
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 13: 50 New
      -5
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      Well, if only the territory

      wasteland? And who to populate? laughing
      1. Hecate
        Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 56 New
        +3
        And you free your apartment and advertise that present it to those who wish, but taking into account that they live in it. There will be many who wish. Many Russians will come to the Russian Federation from the republics of the former USSR if they are given housing that was freed up after the Russophobes were expelled from the Russian Federation.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 15: 08 New
          -4
          Quote: Hecate
          And you free your apartment and advertise that

          why me and not you? Actually, the idea of ​​migrant exchange of Russophobes for Russophiles is yours. So start with yourself. Is there somewhere to move out of the apartment?
          1. Hecate
            Hecate 9 February 2016 15: 10 New
            +3
            You claim that after the expulsion from the Russian Federation and Novorossia of Russophobes in these lands there will be no one to live, but I am sure of the opposite. If in doubt, free your apartment and see for yourself how many will be willing to live in your place.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 15: 46 New
              -4
              Quote: Hecate
              free your apartment and see for yourself how many will be willing to live in your place.

              Yes, I have no doubt that there will be plenty of people willing to enter my Moscow apartment. For this, no experiments with
              Quote: Hecate
              free your apartment

              But in general - it sounds quite Shvonder-style - "in the order of labor discipline ..." You, my friend, have manners just like a leather jacket and a Mauser. Good luck with the evictions.
              1. Hecate
                Hecate 9 February 2016 15: 57 New
                +3
                Well, my friend was evicted from Almaty like this, according to Shvonderovsky, they came and said to roll to their Russia. He drove off and now lives in the Russian Federation, only Russophobes in the Russian Federation are also not needed, let them roll from the Russian land to their villages, farms and eat each other there, stop wiping your pants in bad Russia, the bad Russians, independence from whom they so wanted in their Ukraine, Kazakhstan and the like, independent and proud countries whose population stubbornly does not want to exhaust from the Russian Federation.
  • skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 9 February 2016 11: 25 New
    +4
    UNTIL WE ARE ONE - WE ARE UNBEATABLE!
  • mpzss
    mpzss 9 February 2016 11: 30 New
    +1
    in principle, we don’t need Ukraine now, you think how many people have been plundered there on behalf of the state, individuals, respectively, if it becomes part of Russia, then we will have to pay! But is it necessary !?
    With the author, I agree that we are ONE people, as with Belarus, but the question is how much time has to pass for it to reach "Svidomo" !?
    Anyway, such things should be done after the referendum is held in both countries, and upon its completion, conclusions must be drawn!
  • Wolka
    Wolka 9 February 2016 11: 31 New
    +4
    not enough, dill is like an ulcer, it will always moan and bleat, and spit behind it and malevolently Russophobia against Russia, and why do we need such eternal hemorrhoids, let Ukrainians live on their own as they want and do not climb over the fence with their worries ...
    1. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 11: 40 New
      +1
      That evict Bandera from the Russian Federation and New Russia, and with resistance to shoot on the spot. Let them jump in Galicia
  • region46
    region46 9 February 2016 11: 40 New
    0
    and what will Russia get in return? what are the pluses to all of us from this? strategic? economic? no! we will get millions of hungry Bandera, who must be fed at our expense.
    no really. fire me.
    I read an interesting article that during the USSR, the RSFSR consumed 1 ruble for each ruble produced, no republics had such an indicator, the rest produced 1 ruble, and consumed much more. So the banquet was at our expense. enough once passed this.
    1. Hecate
      Hecate 9 February 2016 13: 47 New
      +4
      The Kemsk volost of the Russian Federation will not hurt, and Bandera’s people already need to be evicted from the Russian Federation and not only them, but the herd that has all come with Russophobia.
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 14: 19 New
        -4
        Quote: Hecate
        already now it is necessary to evict from the Russian Federation and not only them, but the herd that has all come with Russophobia.

        correctly. Under Russophobia can be attributed a lot of human material. Then we will burn books and heat stoves of dissidents. Adik also started from this.
        1. Hecate
          Hecate 9 February 2016 14: 23 New
          +3
          And what, only Russians can be burned in Odessa ?! It would be time for Russophobes to go on fire, the Russian Federation is not Lviv, let them roll home and jackals, with Bandera flags, until Poland kicks in, but these are already problems of Poland and the Bandera herd. I remember Ivano-Frankivsk is the Polish city of Stanislov.
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 9 February 2016 11: 42 New
    +4
    Quote: TVM - 75
    When it comes to dill, then they themselves will bring Svidomo, like cockroaches.

    In order to get it, we need brains!
    And Ukrainians galloped on the Maidan .... laughing
  • sledge
    sledge 9 February 2016 11: 43 New
    +3
    And what to do with Russophobia that has been planted in Ukraine for decades?
  • Begemot
    Begemot 9 February 2016 11: 47 New
    +4
    Ukraine will never return to its pre-existing production levels. The whole point of what is happening in the world today is the lack of sufficient sales markets. The production of a certain type of product at the enterprises of 2-3 companies is capable of providing the whole world, there would be demand. That is why the economies of all countries falling into the millstones of "democratization" and "association" are being intensively destroyed. Czechs, Hungarians, Poles - this is not an indicator, their economy did not collapse, because it was very quickly bought out, look better at Bulgaria, Romania, the Balts and the former Yugoslavia. I had been there a year before the war. They produced consumer goods for the entire socialist camp of quite decent quality: clothes, shoes, furniture, food, chemicals, machine tools, agricultural machinery, equipment for the food industry, etc., etc. Now there is none of this. So, for a few more years, not only us, in general, no one will need Ukraine as a producer, only as a garden bed with farm laborers weeding.
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 9 February 2016 11: 56 New
    0
    Late! This territory and population are lost for Russia!
  • A.Lex
    A.Lex 9 February 2016 11: 56 New
    +4
    Until Ukraine "gets sick with hatred" for Russia, it has nothing to do with Russia.
  • Alfizik
    Alfizik 9 February 2016 11: 58 New
    +2
    A single country with Ukraine? And this after the fact that they "rode"?
    They were zombified, deceived? It is impossible to deceive one who does not want to be deceived.
    First get rid of your shit. We will learn about this when we see their new, non-foolish history textbooks. In the meantime, through the Crimea and the Donbass, we will show them what they lost.
  • Winnie76
    Winnie76 9 February 2016 11: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Douglas
    What kind of corruption, you can’t cope with the pile.

    Can you with the "pile"?
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 9 February 2016 13: 50 New
      -4
      Quote: Winnie76
      Quote: Douglas
      What kind of corruption, you can’t cope with the pile.

      Can you with the "pile"?

      Pile of discord. This is how to score.
  • pts-m
    pts-m 9 February 2016 12: 00 New
    -3
    The author of the article is trying to bring the minds of people under the patriotic mood of a repeated attack on the rake by Russia, which we have received little from these traitors. That Russia has so little space and nowhere to put the money. Let the gentlemen at the top of power wake up from "noble" thoughts. Or let them finance the entire company for the formation of the southwestern district from their own pocket, and not their Russian budget.
  • Mercenary
    Mercenary 9 February 2016 12: 17 New
    0
    An example of the quality and length of roads did not convince! Good roads are needed not only to the west, but also to us. But it turns out he builds-stole, he took (the road) - he took a bribe. And there is no master on the road - no one is responsible for anything, asphalt in the snow, a trench across the road and the Duma with an important view adopts laws that no one needs at best, and even worse at worst
    Example? (The Law on Pedophilia was adopted for 12 years).
  • Irbis5974
    Irbis5974 9 February 2016 12: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: triglav
    It's time to return the lost territory ...

    I beg you ... Why the hell are these territories and the electorate in their current form and with such a mentality? Do we have nothing to rebuild and restore? Wasserman, of course, speaks the commonplace and most understandable truth. But ... this truth is for people not subjected to mass psychosis! And psychosis, especially massive, among other things, requires a very long treatment with initial isolation from others (a hefty dangerous thing belay )
    1. ioann1
      ioann1 10 February 2016 20: 08 New
      +1
      You, unfortunately, are mistaken. The CIA reasoned in exactly the same way. But the Lord will rule and all deceit and filth will come down. Already coming off. Believe those who communicate with the population of Ukraine ...