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Syrian "birdhouses" successfully "jammed" American missiles TOU-2

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Earlier it was reported that appeared on the Syrian tanks systems of optical-electronic suppression of domestic production. Now, thanks to the production established in Syria, these products, nicknamed "birdhouse", have already begun to be installed on cars, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


Syrian "birdhouses" successfully "jammed" American missiles TOU-2


Thus, a photo appeared on the Internet with the image of a pickup truck made in Japan, in the back of which an automatic gun ZU-23 was installed.

“Behind the fighter's back is a bar, the top of which is crowned by the above-mentioned opto-electronic system. This photo shows that the production of complexes has become so widespread that it is possible to put them even on light trucks, ”writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.

According to Russian experts, the use of “birdhouses” in cars is justified, since “terrorists recently received from their sponsors from the Persian Gulf and Turkey such a number of guided anti-tank missiles that they could even afford to hunt for trucks and SUVs of the Syrian army and allied forces” , notes Romanov.

According to the data on the Internet, the power of such a system is 24 B, its power is in working condition 120 W, however, this is enough to “jam” the xenon tracer ATGM TOU-2.



"We must pay tribute to the Syrian specialists, who in the most difficult conditions of war could find an" antidote "against the missiles, in the development of which the leading designers of the largest defense industry in the world took part," the author concludes.
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  1. DarkMatter
    DarkMatter 8 February 2016 11: 21 New
    85
    The Messenger of Mordovia, as usual, breaks the covers wassat
    1. user
      user 8 February 2016 11: 24 New
      39
      Well done!
      How many problems will the TOU deliver.
      1. Temples
        Temples 8 February 2016 11: 25 New
        41
        Needle for invention is cunning.
        Well done.
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 8 February 2016 11: 28 New
          97
          Again, the "Russian trace" probably did not do without!
          The name "Birdhouse" indirectly confirms, hints!
          And then there are probably not very many starlings in Syria, but "birdhouses" multiply like mushrooms after rain (again - in Syria - rains, mushrooms!, (There are, of course))
          laughing
          1. Igor V
            Igor V 8 February 2016 11: 46 New
            30
            Starlings winter there!
            1. Pravdarm
              Pravdarm 8 February 2016 11: 57 New
              13
              Yes, that’s understandable! Only birdhouses there have never been made for them and do not even know what it is!
              1. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 12: 16 New
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                Quote: Pravdarm
                Yes, that’s understandable! Only birdhouses there have never been made for them and do not even know what it is!


                So, colleague, they do not breed there, they only winter there, and they breed in their homeland, in Russia. yes
                1. Mahmut
                  Mahmut 8 February 2016 14: 01 New
                  11
                  Again, the "Russian trace" probably did not do without!
                  The name "Birdhouse" indirectly confirms, hints!


                  The name "birdhouse" was invented by those Russians who first saw them on Syrian vehicles. Those Syrians who invented the device itself probably have a different name.
                  1. Pravdarm
                    Pravdarm 8 February 2016 14: 08 New
                    15
                    We came up with this device in our research institute "..."! And they equipped it with plywood and bolts to hide it. and the Syrians to raise their self-esteem! Do you really think that the Syrians have made it (I don’t argue that they also have engineers, but ...) And the fact that in their language it is called NOT a "birdhouse" is natural. They don't even know such words!
                    1. King
                      King 8 February 2016 14: 43 New
                      +4
                      Could themselves on the model. Or without.
                      1. Throw
                        Throw 8 February 2016 16: 54 New
                        0
                        Like a birdhouse.
                        A starling with a shock anti-nucleus crawls out and extinguishes a rocket.
                        wassat
                2. Semen Semyonitch
                  Semen Semyonitch 10 February 2016 12: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vladimir 1964
                  So, colleague, they do not breed there, they only winter there, and they breed in their homeland, in Russia.

                  So he's never an ornithologist laughing
              2. Inprom 62
                Inprom 62 8 February 2016 20: 47 New
                0
                Well, now, they build them themselves!)))
            2. Inok10
              Inok10 8 February 2016 12: 00 New
              25
              Quote: Igor V
              Starlings winter there!

              ... in, in, and those documentation in the beak was pulled when flying past the Kolomna Design Bureau of Engineering, captured along the way ... laughing
              1. Pravdarm
                Pravdarm 8 February 2016 13: 55 New
                +1
                Not!!! For the winter (now it's winter!) Birdhouses took with them (or: they flew into them! laughing )
                They responded, so to speak, to the call of the leadership of United Russia for help to a friend Assad! fellow
                And technical documentation - you can’t! Treason is! wassat
              2. demchuk.ig
                demchuk.ig 8 February 2016 16: 00 New
                +4
                Quote: Inok10
                Quote: Igor V
                Starlings winter there!

                ... in, in, and those documentation in the beak was pulled when flying past the Kolomna Design Bureau of Engineering, captured along the way ... laughing

                I think the Syrians are making a screwdriver assembly and nothing more!
            3. SPACE
              SPACE 8 February 2016 12: 37 New
              +7
              Quote: Igor V
              Starlings winter there!

              The second homeland, also in the service of the videoconferencing.
            4. Pravdarm
              Pravdarm 8 February 2016 16: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: Igor V
              Starlings winter there!
              Pancake. Yes, I know !!! He said "not very much"!
              what? it was necessary to indicate in parentheses that I know that starlings winter there ????
              It's about birdhouses that have never been there! there’s nothing to hang them on! (I know that there, too, trees meet yayaya !!!!!)
              hi
              1. 56_br
                56_br 8 February 2016 18: 34 New
                +7
                The main thing is that these birdhouses work, so they (birdhouses) are in the right place and at the right time. And one more disadvantage to this exceptional state is that the assembled device on the knee suppresses their "high-tech weapons" of which they boast. GLORY TO RUSSIAN ENGINEERS !!!
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 12: 14 New
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            Quote: Pravdarm
            And then there are probably not very many starlings in Syria,


            Maybe not in the subject, colleague, but to your deep disappointment, I have to report that the Russian starlings, or rather that part of them, which is "based" in the north-west of Russia, winters in the Middle East. Well, what to do, colleague, they do not want to fly far from Russia, and the Middle East is still the cradle of Christianity. hi
            1. technical
              technical 8 February 2016 14: 25 New
              +2
              Especially! Then we and the starlings have a common Motherland.
              1. King
                King 8 February 2016 14: 50 New
                +1
                But they don’t need either a passport or a passport sad Although lower than the person "dignity". Rather, it turns out that it is higher.
            2. Pravdarm
              Pravdarm 8 February 2016 16: 03 New
              0
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Quote: Pravdarm
              And then there are probably not very many starlings in Syria,


              Maybe not in the subject, colleague, but to your deep disappointment, I have to report that the Russian starlings, or rather that part of them, which is "based" in the north-west of Russia, winters in the Middle East. Well, what to do, colleague, they do not want to fly far from Russia, and the Middle East is still the cradle of Christianity. hi

              Pancake. Yes, I know !!! He said "not very much"! You are already the 2nd connoisseur!
              what? it was necessary to indicate in parentheses that I know that starlings winter there ????
              It's about birdhouses that have never been there! there’s nothing to hang them on! (I know (to your deep disappointment) that there are trees too, they are found !!!!!)
              hi
          3. GAF
            GAF 8 February 2016 13: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: Pravdarm
            Again, the "Russian trace" probably did not do without!

            It is impossible without our traces. In 2013, Rostec, using our own loans, launched Production in Jordan for 60 thousand rounds per year for RPG-32. You can't wash them off with birdhouses.
        2. Mihalich17
          Mihalich17 8 February 2016 11: 44 New
          +7
          Yes, what - "need for invention" ... ??? ))))))
          All the filling is "Ikhtamnetovskaya" - do not go to the grandmother! )))))
          And the "cases-boxes" and the Syrians themselves can make!
          ;)
          That would be another video of "work" entogo "product" to watch ..?
          See you soon, I think!
          1. cap
            cap 8 February 2016 12: 02 New
            -12 qualifying.
            Quote: Mihalich17
            Yes, what - "need for invention" ... ??? ))))))
            All the filling is "Ikhtamnetovskaya" - do not go to the grandmother! )))))
            And the "cases-boxes" and the Syrians themselves can make!
            ;)
            That would be another video of "work" entogo "product" to watch ..?
            See you soon, I think!


            I will not live. Looking at this "miracle birdhouse" I will die laughing today))).
            Funny guys in the Mordovian research institute. drinks
            1. cap
              cap 8 February 2016 12: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: cap
              Funny guys in the Mordovian research institute. drinks


              For minusers I will explain.
              The Kurds did without our help, and in the end THIS appeared. Here I believe.
              The birdhouse needs to be soldered, the welding machine is by no means for such work. First you need to find a soldering iron, and much more. Below is the opinion of specialists on the branch. I am a patriot, but not .... t
              Kurdish tankKurdish tank
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              2. cap
                cap 8 February 2016 18: 50 New
                +5
                Quote: cap
                The birdhouse needs to be soldered, the welding machine is by no means for such work. First you need to find a soldering iron, and much more. Below on the branch is the opinion of specialists

                Here, too, a research institute is not required. Everyone did it themselves. I believe
                Grenade launcherGrenade launcher
                Waiting for cons. Long-range grenade launcher. Only welding.
                1. cap
                  cap 8 February 2016 19: 03 New
                  0
                  nesting box
                  Quote: cap
                  Long-range grenade launcher. Only welding.

                  And compare with that.
                  1. cap
                    cap 8 February 2016 19: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: cap
                    nesting box
                    Quote: cap
                    Long-range grenade launcher. Only welding.

                    And compare with that.


                    Holy untouchable. Birdhouse solder in the garage laughing . Minus I'll count.
              3. Manul
                Manul 8 February 2016 19: 31 New
                +3
                Quote: cap
                For minusers I will explain.
                The Kurds did without our help, and in the end THIS appeared. Here I believe.
                The birdhouse needs to be soldered, the welding machine is by no means for such work. First you need to find a soldering iron, and much more. Below is the opinion of specialists on the branch. I am a patriot, but not .... t

                I didn’t minus, but I didn’t understand both of your posts. Maybe for slow-witted people, you don’t believe in this device at all, or that it was made by the Syrians, or that it was made by us? recourse
            2. hawk
              hawk 8 February 2016 21: 00 New
              0
              Not a research institute, but the media ... To understand the watts of what this "birdhouse" emits and how a homing projectile behaves from this ...
          2. Kars
            Kars 8 February 2016 12: 57 New
            12
            Birdhouses have been in sight for more than a month. There is no video about shelling by the smokers. But as an indirect proof of the effectiveness, an increased video stream with shelling of insignificant objects and small clusters of infantry can be considered.
        3. bearing73
          bearing73 8 February 2016 20: 17 New
          +3
          At one time the shortage of pomegranates was made up for by "Molotov cocktails". So here - well done !!!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 8 February 2016 11: 46 New
        20
        Quote: user
        How many problems will the TOU deliver.

        Fuck knows, but they put it. It will be visible with time. Maybe the video will be uploaded.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 8 February 2016 12: 21 New
          60
          Already have a video !!)))

          1. witch
            witch 9 February 2016 00: 02 New
            +3
            neighing long thank you brother
          2. cat hippopotamus
            cat hippopotamus 9 February 2016 00: 21 New
            +3
            Truly Akbar!
          3. serega1512
            serega1512 9 February 2016 11: 14 New
            0
            smile I wonder what they flew in response. Yes, even with such accuracy? have thoughts?
        2. Manul
          Manul 8 February 2016 19: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Fuck knows, but they put it. It will be visible with time. Maybe the video will be uploaded.

          Alexander, I think the launcher for our special services will not be difficult to get. We need to check, and if it really works, then we urgently need to put on our, and especially on the equipment that we are sending to the Syrians.
    2. Smoked
      Smoked 8 February 2016 11: 25 New
      -18 qualifying.
      Something like that yes :)
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        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 8 February 2016 13: 28 New
          +1
          With respect! But take the trouble, please explain. And do not put a minus!
          I put you a plus for commenting on the article: The air regiment in the Southern Military District was replenished with four Su-30SM fighters
          Yes, this is not a typo, it’s just that the article was published ahead of time.

          And here I do not understand!
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    4. Mitek
      Mitek 8 February 2016 11: 25 New
      +1
      Large-caliber sniper and then TOW? From the usual it seems unrealistic, since the thickness of the metal is normal. True heavy sniper to prepare the case is not two days.
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 8 February 2016 11: 37 New
      18
      Quote: DarkMatter
      “The terrorists recently received from their sponsors from the Persian Gulf and Turkey such a number of guided anti-tank missiles TOU,

      And these sponsors declare to the whole world that they are one of the most important fighters against terrorism in the region.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 8 February 2016 11: 54 New
        +7
        Quote: vovanpain
        And these sponsors declare to the whole world that they are one of the most important fighters against terrorism in the region.

        So depending on who has what mentality. For the USA, SA, Turkey, Qatar, the main threat is not Daesh, but Russia. They consider the Kurds and Hezbol as terrorists, and of course Assad is the "bloody killer."
        Our mentality is "a little" different. Therefore, the priorities, so to speak, do not coincide. laughing
        1. El_Alma_Herida
          El_Alma_Herida 8 February 2016 23: 42 New
          +2
          There is another war that was in Afghanistan or Vietnam. Everyone knows the warring parties, but does not officially recognize. Play diplomacy
      2. Gogia
        Gogia 8 February 2016 19: 01 New
        +3
        I think that at a cost of $ 250000 for one launcher with a shot and $ 160000 for one shot, a lot of TOU will not get them. Well, 100-200 pcs ... The main thing is to look at Merkel - she already speaks loudly about the suffering of the Syrians from Russian bombs. As if the Turks would not trample .... Their army is very large and the fleet is large .... Here you can run into big trouble without NATO, and even with them ....
        1. El_Alma_Herida
          El_Alma_Herida 8 February 2016 23: 41 New
          0
          They will not go to the open alone. The gut is thin.
    6. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 February 2016 11: 54 New
      +7
      Anti-tank missile TOW 2B Aero
      TOW 2B Aero has a range of 4.5 km. To increase the range from 3.75 km to 4.5 km, it was necessary to increase the length of the wire and install a new aerodynamic fairing, despite the fact that the engines on the rocket were not changed.

      ATGM TOW 2B RF
      Another development of the TOW 2B Aero family is the wireless version of the TOW 2B RF. In September 2006, the US Army placed the first contract for the new TOW 2B RF wireless. The absence of wires in the guidance system removes restrictions on the range and speed of a missile’s flight, imposed by the mechanism of their unwinding from the coils and allows increasing the acceleration in the acceleration section and reducing the missile flight time. TOW 2B RF is controlled by one-way hidden radio commands. The range of the rocket is 4.5 km. The system is compatible with launchers in service.

      http://topwar.ru/10626-ptrk-bgm-71-tow.html
      1. Genry
        Genry 8 February 2016 13: 16 New
        +3
        This TOW-2B is a very dangerous system. It flies horizontally but hits the target from above.
        Two charges of the "shock cannonball" type (in the picture: Fowvard warhead, Aft warhead) are fired successively downward, when the missile passes over the target. The first one removes ERA, and the second one penetrates armor.
        The flight altitude is automatically selected, a couple of meters above the target. It’s enough for the arrow to aim the direction correctly.
        1. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 8 February 2016 16: 52 New
          +5
          Quote: Genry
          It flies horizontally but hits the target from above.


          You seem to have confused her with Javelin?
          1. El_Alma_Herida
            El_Alma_Herida 8 February 2016 23: 39 New
            0
            Yes Yes! I also played CoD)
        2. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 8 February 2016 17: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Genry
          The flight altitude is automatically selected, a couple of meters above the target.

          For minusculers: the cumulative jet, beating 2 meters of air and then breaking through even 20 mm of armor is an interesting novelty. laughing Wikipedia is a storehouse of new products, especially if you literally quote wikis. Everyone knows how to read here.
          And, I doubt very much that the Americans deliver to the Daishaites exactly that2b, the toad will strangle. More likely - to2a (maximum). There are probably a lot of them left in Iraq.
          1. warriordima
            warriordima 9 February 2016 08: 09 New
            +3
            There is an impact core, not a cumulative stream.
      2. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 8 February 2016 16: 57 New
        +2
        Wire or radio channel - there is only one meaning, the rocket is guided and optically guided by the operator. Therefore, the Birdhouse, if effective, acts on the guidance system, not the controls. Blinds? Or does the fuse jam? Some questions, however. laughing
      3. serega1512
        serega1512 9 February 2016 11: 20 New
        0
        a good thing is dangerous. if it’s working against the tank. it’s in a jeep or something like a BMP, you just don’t even have to hit it next to it and the kapets will blow! (((Good luck to the Syrians they need mestizos with contests as a gift to send for more!
    7. CHILD
      CHILD 8 February 2016 12: 13 New
      +2
      And why ... the Syrians they are ... they can)) .. the main thing is working ... still probably they left a place for modernization))) ... and they found the power and the element base .... well, very gifted people)) )
    8. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 8 February 2016 12: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: DarkMatter
      The Messenger of Mordovia, as usual, breaks the covers wassat


      ... a week late, but frustrating.
    9. Pimply
      Pimply 8 February 2016 20: 03 New
      -1
      Quote: DarkMatter
      The Messenger of Mordovia, as usual, breaks the covers

      As always, WATER 8)))
    10. code54
      code54 9 February 2016 09: 19 New
      -1
      Secret Square


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      2. code54
        code54 11 February 2016 13: 47 New
        0
        The video is not inserted "stupid Russian -2", there is about a secret weapon !!! ;))))
  2. Cananecat
    Cananecat 8 February 2016 11: 23 New
    +6
    So on a knee more precisely turns out)))
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 8 February 2016 11: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Canecat
      So on a knee more precisely turns out)))


      It’s more correct to say - On the knees of Mikhalych (Petrovich, Ivanovich) it turns out more precisely)))
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 8 February 2016 11: 38 New
        +8
        In Syria, specialists have a Soviet school ... and in fact Syria is now experiencing what we once experienced in the Patriotic War. Their war is akin to ours. May Imm God stand in it.
      2. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 8 February 2016 11: 43 New
        +9
        Quote: gray smeet
        It’s more correct to say - On the knees of Mikhalych (Petrovich, Ivanovich) it turns out more precisely)))


        Yes cool disguised - Plywood, bolts! laughing Type on his knee, cut down with an ax (Syrian)!
        And inside, this is probably a normal thing from Mikhalych, Petrovich, ... (designers of the Research Institute "...")
  3. ARES623
    ARES623 8 February 2016 11: 27 New
    +5
    It's just that there is a real struggle for their own life. And this gives strength, dexterity and resourcefulness of the mind. From the ersatz laboratory immediately to the combat vehicle. We had something similar during the WWII period. Well done !!!
    1. Sura
      Sura 8 February 2016 11: 40 New
      +3
      So it is during the Second World War, ordinary people made ingenious inventions in the "Technology of Youth" there was a whole section dedicated to such inventions and rationalizations.
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 11: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: ARES623
      It's just that there is a real struggle for their own life. And this gives strength, dexterity and resourcefulness of the mind. From the ersatz laboratory immediately to the combat vehicle. We had something similar during the WWII period. Well done !!!

      And here it is interesting, colleague, why does this invention of the Syrians evoke positive emotions in you, and the Ukrainian "shutspanzer" exclusively negative? I am not a supporter of Petunin's Banderaism, I simply do not observe logic and objectivity. Although perhaps the logic is present: who is the fellow for us, who is against ..., then the question of objectivity remains, but for many it is not interesting! After all, from the point of view of combat effectiveness, that such a "tachanka", that the Ukrainian "shutspanzer" have one practically zero indicator. Those site users who really have combat experience using such means will understand me. In my commentary, there is no politics, an exclusively pragmatic view.
      Something like that, colleague. hi
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        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 12: 42 New
          -1
          Quote: Dangerous
          You exaggerate. Recently, an article here was about collective farm protection of Syrian tanks, so here in Ukraine, that the Syrians got the same G *** about. And in this case, if the thing really works, then honor and praise to the inventors

          Perhaps you are exaggerating, colleague, not me, since I do not give "preference" to one side or the other. As for the question "it really works", I can tell you with full responsibility that neither this nor that works against a well-trained enemy. You may not believe me, but the opinion is purely practical, of an officer of the USSR Armed Forces and the RF Armed Forces with more than 10 years of practical work experience with such "arts".
          I have the honor, colleague. hi
          PSYes, colleague, the total length of service in the army, more than 25 years, it is clear that with preferential, the actual exactly 20.
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 8 February 2016 12: 44 New
            +2
            I actually wrote "if it works". And from the fact that you tell me your biography neither hot nor cold somehow
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 12: 48 New
              -1
              Quote: Dangerous
              I actually wrote "if it works". And from the fact that you tell me your biography neither hot nor cold somehow


              If it’s nice to be on the couch, and you are "trying" to give an expert assessment of what you absolutely have no idea about, this makes you make such harsh comments.
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                  1. Vladimir 1964
                    Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 14: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: Vladimir 1964
                    Quote: Dangerous
                    Essentially - here they wrote the news about a new fight against the enemy's TOW. Everything seems to be fine, at least the Syrians are finally trying to do something in this direction. It will be great if they succeed. In fact, neither I nor you know what is inside and how effective this thing is. But why then your show off "I'm special and you are couch loshki"? Wife didn't give it in the morning? Cheer * then go, you look and your mood will improve!
                    I understood that divandek, but it also turns out to be a boor.

                    And what, for their own dignity on the site is already minus. The right is amazing. But it doesn’t affect much, the number of minuses is too small, so it’s still separate sofas, but they are not interesting. wassat
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        2. KVIRTU
          KVIRTU 8 February 2016 13: 46 New
          +4
          It works, why not.
          If you look closely, each radiating element is a standard xenon lamp with a lens (6 pieces), which are installed in the headlights. Power 1st standard 35 or 55 watts, with a constant glow. They have an average consumption of 120 watts, because the lamps flash alternately around, such a stroboscope.
          But. TOU-2 has both a xenon tracer, and
          IR tracer.
          (Dual tracking system provides increased resistance to optoelectronic and infrared countermeasures.)
          Those. this thing does not allow the TOU operator to work on the xenon beacon of the rocket for sure, but there is also IR
          channel, it will be less susceptible to such resistance (for comparison, look at the size of the IR projectors "Curtains", on the site's splash screen)
        3. KVIRTU
          KVIRTU 8 February 2016 13: 46 New
          +5
          It works, why not.
          If you look closely, each radiating element is a standard xenon lamp with a lens (6 pieces), which are installed in the headlights. Power 1st standard 35 or 55 watts, with a constant glow. They have an average consumption of 120 watts, because the lamps flash alternately around, such a stroboscope.
          But. TOU-2 has both a xenon tracer, and
          IR tracer.
          (Dual tracking system provides increased resistance to optoelectronic and infrared countermeasures.)
          Those. this thing does not allow the TOU operator to work on the xenon beacon of the rocket for sure, but there is also IR
          channel, it will be less susceptible to such resistance (for comparison, look at the size of the IR projectors "Curtains", on the site's splash screen)
          1. PKK
            PKK 9 February 2016 08: 34 New
            0
            The xenon lamp gives a powerful infrared stream, a rocket is fired at it. More precisely, a control system is being conducted. And the rocket goes above the target. I hope the Ishilov’s team isn’t smart enough to adjust the shooting.
      2. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 8 February 2016 17: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        And here it is interesting, colleague, why does this invention of the Syrians evoke positive emotions in you, and the Ukrainian "shutspanzer" exclusively negative?

        I will omit the moral aspects ... But I think you will agree that "scalding" the kraz with sewer manholes and making a jammer for a complex anti-tank complex are different things. laughing
      3. ARES623
        ARES623 8 February 2016 22: 43 New
        +5
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        And here it is interesting, colleague, why does this invention of the Syrians evoke positive emotions in you, and the Ukrainian "shutspanzer" exclusively negative? I am not a supporter of Petunin's Banderaism, I simply do not observe logic and objectivity. Although perhaps the logic is present: who is the fellow for us, who is against ..., then the question of objectivity remains, but for many it is not interesting! After all, from the point of view of combat effectiveness, that such a "tachanka", that the Ukrainian "shutspanzer" have one practically zero indicator. Those site users who really have combat experience using such means will understand me. In my commentary, there is no politics, an exclusively pragmatic view.

        Contact a colleague 1. I am so called. Schutzpantsy not discussed at all, so tone your objectivity 2. I do not sympathize with the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Kiev authorities, as with marauders and murderers. As a normal person, I am a priori subjective, and I don't want to talk about Ukrainian masters, because most of them are just ghouls today. I am not going to measure combat experience with you, I see no point. I estimate the "birdhouse" by what I have written, because I have never experienced it. At one time, when the bearded men were doused with "peas" on the armor, I confess, I felt not quite buzzing. Our leadership in those "blessed" about body armor for HP. the head did not hurt. If the "spirits" at that moment had such a "car with zero efficiency", a lot would have changed in my life. The DShK and us were bored. Hope I satisfied your curiosity.
      4. Gemini
        Gemini 9 February 2016 12: 57 New
        0
        the answer here is simple, we perceive the Ukrainians as ourselves, for this we perceive them as shameless technological degradation of the pale-faced brother, and the Syrians are like Bedouins for us and if they come up with something there is something to admire. Like the North Koreans, they themselves are in a hoppa and a satellite launched, and the great meager hegemon cannot already pull into space ...
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      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 8 February 2016 12: 16 New
        12
        Quote: PKK
        Yesterday, China applied sanctions to Russia. Sanctioned comrades.

        To prepare for what? And what sanctions has China applied? In more detail, please, and a reference please to the studio or to the fan just decided to leave? hi
        1. glasha3032
          glasha3032 8 February 2016 14: 47 New
          -1
          Chinese banks denied loans and money to Russian banks and companies.
      2. Gemini
        Gemini 9 February 2016 13: 03 New
        +1
        crowed and there at least do not dawn? can you attach zinc to sanctions?
  4. meriem1
    meriem1 8 February 2016 11: 28 New
    +3
    Necessity for inventions is cunning! This is a blow in the spoon of the American military organization. If guided missiles can be steered off course by a system assembled on their knees, then who needs such ammunition of considerable cost? And they were warned. An almost divine confidence in the "genius" of American technology is splashing!
    PS ... Kasyanosv and KO liberasts grind their teeth. After all, their tales about the backwardness of Russia and the immense power of the United States ... are "slightly" exaggerated!
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 8 February 2016 11: 50 New
      13
      Quote: meriem1
      If guided missiles can be diverted by a knee-mounted system

      Do not take away missiles, but introduce interference to the operator, preventing him from using the ATGM optics.
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 12: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Do not take away missiles, but introduce interference to the operator, preventing him from using the ATGM optics.


        And you are well done, colleague, but I'm afraid the "patriots" will not understand you. laughing
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 8 February 2016 12: 11 New
          +4
          Patamu INTO "patriots" know the purpose of the two illuminators included in the KOEP "Shtora"?
        2. barbiturate
          barbiturate 8 February 2016 15: 09 New
          0
          You licked the test, but neither you nor your colleague nifiga in the Tou's missile guidance system understands the target, but they scribble confidently and brand "patriots" - after all, what a shameful and shameful word, right? laughing
        3. Manul
          Manul 8 February 2016 19: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          And you are well done, colleague, but I'm afraid the "patriots" will not understand you.

          Why did you all go about patriots? People just try to figure it out, especially the topic, well, a very interesting one. If someone understands better than others, we sit, keep quiet and absorb. And even if we ask, it’s not for you to spoil the great mood of those who know the mood for the night and to bring the spleen with dismay into your delicate wounded souls of specialists. And simply because it’s interesting, damn it.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 8 February 2016 12: 08 New
        +2
        Laser suppression systems are needed to "jam the operator". "Birdhouse" is clearly not a system from this opera.
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 8 February 2016 12: 28 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Laser suppression systems are needed to "jam the operator". "Birdhouse" is clearly not a system from this opera.

          Well, the operator doesn't see the "tracer" and can't aim the rocket? Is this a hindrance?
          I just don’t understand how they determine the launch of an ATGM, do not keep it on all the time?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 8 February 2016 12: 52 New
            10
            Quote: Mera Joota
            Well, the operator doesn't see the "tracer" and can't aim the rocket?

            And he does not need to see him. This is the second generation complex. The operator holds the reticle on the target. The missile is controlled by automation located on the control panel. And it is precisely the coordinator from its composition (that is, a device that measures the angular deviation of the rocket from the line of sight) that this equipment creates interference.

            Quote: Mera Joota
            I just don’t understand how they determine the launch of an ATGM, do not keep it on all the time?

            That's it!
            Keep on all the time. 8)))
            1. Genry
              Genry 8 February 2016 13: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              That's it!
              Keep on all the time. 8)))

              It is a bad idea. Type of ad: "I'm a great target, fly to me."
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 8 February 2016 13: 43 New
                +4
                Well yes. After all, it is quite possible to drive up on the tank unnoticed 8)))
                1. Rader
                  Rader 8 February 2016 14: 09 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Spade
                  Well yes. After all, it is quite possible to drive up on the tank unnoticed 8)))

                  :). It’s not very easy to put a sneak up on a tank in a dark alley to a moderate opposition member with an RPG wassat But on the defensive, in advance, to provide the enemy with a service, indicating their positions ... And for explored positions, mortar bombardment can be organized ... In general, the decision in my humble opinion of a sofa expert is controversial, but at the moment when the region is inflated by TOW ATGM, and help from the Saudis of the Qataris and other Turks is delayed, this is undoubtedly a useful innovation.
              2. dauria
                dauria 8 February 2016 16: 10 New
                +1
                It is a bad idea. Type of ad: "I'm a great target, fly to me."


                True, it’s a bad idea if the rocket had a second regime - passive homing. But fortunately it is not there, but there is only a semi-automatic command. (wires or radio no difference for such interference). Until it comes down, and then you can come up with a detection of the launch of ATGMs by a simple police Doppler radar smile and include interference.
          2. barbiturate
            barbiturate 8 February 2016 15: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: Mera Joota
            Well, the operator doesn't see the "tracer" and can't aim the rocket? Is this a hindrance?
            I just don’t understand how they determine the launch of an ATGM, do not keep it on all the time?


            Why do you write then, if you do NOT understand? You correct the person with your ridiculous phrase))

            Quote: Mera Joota
            Quote: meriem1
            If guided missiles can be diverted by a knee-mounted system

            Do not take away missiles, but introduce interference to the operator, preventing him from using the ATGM optics.


            Oh, the beach ... laughing
        2. Manul
          Manul 8 February 2016 20: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Laser suppression systems are needed to "jam the operator". "Birdhouse" is clearly not a system from this opera.

          At what distance do xeon emitters work? Could the operator lose sight of the tracer he led at a given distance from the target?
  5. corporal
    corporal 8 February 2016 11: 28 New
    +4
    "Jamming" xenon tracer ATGM TOU-2.
    How effective will it be? Track the effectiveness of counteraction.
    1. Alexanast
      Alexanast 8 February 2016 11: 39 New
      13
      Well, since not only tanks, but also SUVs are installed, it means there is efficiency.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 February 2016 12: 11 New
      0
      And most importantly, how does a xenon tracer jam?
      1. ism_ek
        ism_ek 9 February 2016 12: 14 New
        0
        We read the description of the action of our "Curtains" and everything becomes clear.
        A searchlight of a searchlight installation provides radiation with parameters (modulation frequency and spectral range) that are similar to the characteristics of projectile tracers or missiles used in anti-tank guided weapon systems. This radiation is perceived by the coordinator. The radiation power of the searchlight installation significantly exceeds the radiation power of the tracer, therefore, as the rocket approaches the protected machine, the signal level from the tracer on the coordinator decreases, while the signal level from the searchlight remains constant. At the moment when the signal level from the searchlight installation on the coordinator exceeds the signal level from the projectile tracer, the coordinator intercepts the searchlight signal instead of the tracer signal, and false motion correction commands begin to be sent to the projectile, which leads to disruption of projectile guidance. The power supply and modulation, as its name implies, provides power to the searchlight with the selected modulation frequency. It also provides the ability to change the modulation frequency to counter different types of missiles. The controls of the system on the remote control provide the choice of modulation frequency, as well as the inclusion of a searchlight installation both in the described mode and in the battlefield illumination mode. The display on the remote control notifies the operator of the operating modes and system malfunctions.
    3. ism_ek
      ism_ek 8 February 2016 13: 05 New
      -1
      Domestic system "Shtora-1", which is installed on the T-90A, disrupts the guidance of a guided missile with a probability of 80..85%
  6. askort154
    askort154 8 February 2016 11: 30 New
    +2
    I wonder what characteristics? And read reviews from practice.
    1. bodzu
      bodzu 8 February 2016 13: 09 New
      +1
      Judging by the photograph, the basis of the "jammer" is a powerful light-emitting diode with a scattering lens, the radiation spectrum of which is close to xenon, operates in pulses at the frequency of xenon pulses.
  7. dzzen
    dzzen 8 February 2016 11: 32 New
    +4
    It seems to me that these birdhouses are being collected somewhere in Tula, akurat, for American and Turkish starlings, so that they do not fly.
  8. Dikson
    Dikson 8 February 2016 11: 33 New
    +4
    if it didn’t work, it would hardly be possible to use steel .. Although it may be just a prototype ..
  9. alert_timka
    alert_timka 8 February 2016 11: 34 New
    +1
    I say right away that I am not competent in this matter, but is it not TOV controlled by wire? If so, how can I jam the signal in the wires?
    1. Alexanast
      Alexanast 8 February 2016 11: 42 New
      +7
      You can mute the signal anywhere - in the wires is not much more complicated.
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 8 February 2016 11: 51 New
        0
        ..... You can mute the signal anywhere - in the wires is not much more complicated ....

        ... Well, yes .... That is why we and the anti-tank systems until recently did with the management of the wires .... laughing
    2. engineer74
      engineer74 8 February 2016 11: 43 New
      0
      Quote: alert_timka
      ... If so, how can I jam the signal in the wires?

      Elementary - EMP of a nuclear explosion. wassat
      TOU-2, like, without wires.
      The Birdhouse looks like it is littered with flashlights, but how it detects the trigger is really a mystery ... what
      1. Lanista
        Lanista 8 February 2016 11: 49 New
        +2
        Laser Detector
        200 in any store, is actively used in laser tag.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 8 February 2016 12: 23 New
        +4
        Quote: engineer74
        TOU-2, like, without wires.

        TOW = Tube-launched Optically-tracked Wire-guided.
        That is, optical tracking and wire guidance.

        There are wireless TOUs (TOW-2B Aero RF), but they are not delivered to Syria - too new. In addition, their guidance is still semi-automatic. So - xenon for ATGMs and a receiver for launchers.
      3. Genry
        Genry 8 February 2016 13: 46 New
        0
        It looks like there are 6 heat flux sensors on each face. They record missile engine emissions that occur from the middle of the hull in different directions.
      4. SkiF_RnD
        SkiF_RnD 8 February 2016 14: 41 New
        +1
        engineer74
        TOU-2, like, without wires.

        No, on the wire, including the newest versions in US service. By the way, this is contained in the name itself - "Tube-launched, Optical-tracked, Wire-guided" ("launched from a container, guided optically, guided by a wire")
    3. Makk
      Makk 8 February 2016 11: 55 New
      +6
      The flight trajectory is corrected according to the position of the rocket, which, in semi-automatic mode, the control system determines by the tracer. Apparently the "birdhouse" is needed so that the system, instead of the rocket tracer, would correct the flight based on the position of the "birdhouse". Our 2nd generation ATGM ("Bassoon", "Competition") can also be deceived (I am not aware of the new ones). The way out is to start and maintain in manual mode, but this takes a long and expensive study.
    4. Mera joota
      Mera joota 8 February 2016 12: 03 New
      -2
      Quote: alert_timka
      If so, how can I jam the signal in the wires?

      The TOW missile is really driven by wires. This system also interferes with the operator, as if blinding him with bright light.
      1. barbiturate
        barbiturate 8 February 2016 15: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Mera Joota
        The TOW missile is really driven by wires. This system also interferes with the operator, as if blinding him with bright light.


        laughing laughing laughing wassat
    5. Lopatov
      Lopatov 8 February 2016 12: 06 New
      30
      They do not "jam" the control signal, they "jam" the optical coordinator located on the launch site, which tracks the position of the missile relative to the line of sight (launch-target line).

      The principle is quite simple: imagine a flashlight. You see his light. If you turn on the spotlight behind it, then the light will no longer be visible.

      So it is here: a powerful source of light / infrared radiation, against its background the xenon tracer / lamp-headlight are not visible. Effectiveness increases with range. It can work both against TOU and against "Metis" / "Fagot" / "Competition", also used by the "opposition"
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 8 February 2016 12: 27 New
        10
        Quote: Spade
        They do not "jam" the control signal, they "jam" the optical coordinator located on the launch site, which tracks the position of the missile relative to the line of sight (launch-target line).

        In short, they break the feedback of the ATGM-PU, depriving the guidance system of the current coordinates of the ATGM. And without them, it is impossible to work out trajectory corrections.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 8 February 2016 12: 56 New
          +8
          Yes. Deprives the current angular coordinates of the rocket.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 February 2016 12: 41 New
        10
        Finally an understandable explanation - thanks!
        1. Gemini
          Gemini 9 February 2016 13: 15 New
          0
          And then the Jewish brothers screwed the Old on the pace)))) joke
      3. aleks26
        aleks26 8 February 2016 14: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        It can work both against TOU and against "Metis" / "Fagot" / "Competition",

        But you don't need to whistle, the "bassoon" which shoots "competition" also controls this device via wires. Metis did not see live / did not shoot, if I remember correctly, also wired.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 8 February 2016 17: 11 New
          +2
          Quote: aleks26
          But you don't need to whistle, the "bassoon" which shoots "competition" also controls this device via wires.

          So no one encroaches on the PU-ATGM communication line. smile
          The Syrian COEC suppresses the feedback of the ATGM-PU, more precisely, the sensor on the PU, which tracks the current position of the ATGM. It is impossible to work out the exact corrections of the trajectory without this data - there is nothing to calculate the difference between the current ATGM position and the target from.

          On "Fagot" ATGM tracking is also optical.
          A lamp with a light filter installed along the axis of the coil transferred most of the radiation energy to the IR region. An incandescent lamp was used in place of the tracer so as not to damage the unwinding two-wire bimetal wire. When the blow-out installation was triggered, the reflector and the lamp were protected by shutters that were opened after the rocket left the container. At the same time, the combustion products of the expelling charge heated the reflector mirror, eliminating the possibility of fogging. The lamp was varnished, which prevented the operator from blinding in low light.

          And "Metis" too:
          During the flight of an anti-tank missile, the tracer moves in a spiral, and the ground equipment of the complex receives information about the angular position of the rocket and makes adjustments to the commands issued via a wireline to the PTR control bodies.
      4. Manul
        Manul 8 February 2016 19: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        They do not "jam" the control signal, they "jam" the optical coordinator located on the launch site, which tracks the position of the missile relative to the line of sight (launch-target line).

        The principle is quite simple: imagine a flashlight. You see his light. If you turn on the spotlight behind it, then the light will no longer be visible.

        So it is here: a powerful source of light / infrared radiation, against its background the xenon tracer / lamp-headlight are not visible. Effectiveness increases with range. It can work both against TOU and against "Metis" / "Fagot" / "Competition", also used by the "opposition"

        By no means do I want to dispute the opinion of a specialist, but cannot this illumination interfere primarily with the operator, and only then with the optical sensors of the launcher?
    6. Alex_T
      Alex_T 8 February 2016 12: 26 New
      11
      A searchlight of a searchlight installation provides radiation with parameters (modulation frequency and spectral range) that are similar to the characteristics of projectile tracers or missiles used in anti-tank guided weapon systems. This radiation is perceived by the coordinator. The radiation power of the searchlight installation significantly exceeds the radiation power of the tracer, therefore, as the rocket approaches the protected machine, the signal level from the tracer on the coordinator decreases, while the signal level from the searchlight remains constant. At the moment when the signal level from the searchlight installation on the coordinator exceeds the signal level from the projectile tracer, the coordinator intercepts the searchlight signal instead of the tracer signal, and false motion correction commands begin to be sent to the projectile, which leads to disruption of projectile guidance.
      Original article: http://btvt.narod.ru/4/shtora1/shtora1.htm
      1. Retvizan 8
        Retvizan 8 8 February 2016 12: 57 New
        +3
        Thank you for the clear explanation.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 8 February 2016 13: 01 New
        +5
        Well, yes, that's what I wrote in a simple way. In real life, everything is more complicated due to the fact that the tracer / lamp-headlamp of a rocket does not just constantly shine, but with a certain frequency and modulation. It is in order to increase the noise immunity.
        And in order to create an obstacle, you need not only a strong light / infrared source, it also must have a certain frequency and modulation to provide the coordinator with incorrect data on the position of the rocket relative to the line of sight.
  10. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 11: 38 New
    +5
    The very fact of installing the ZU-23-2 on such a vehicle is interesting. Interesting because of the issue of efficiency. To hit something if possible, but only with the first shot. From my own practice: Zushka is next in line and MTLBU slightly shakes after the first stage, and on a similar vehicle, it is more effective for moral suppression than for practical destruction of targets. I do not in any way detract from the merits of the people involved in the production of such optical suppression systems, I emphasize that it is not possible to talk about "electronic" suppression at all, this is an exclusively optical means. And of course the Syrian craftsmen are great.
  11. GEV67
    GEV67 8 February 2016 11: 39 New
    +3
    During the war, such products appear naturally, namely simple and reliable. Well done Syrians!
  12. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 8 February 2016 11: 40 New
    +2
    Since ours shared such technologies with the Syrians, then our birdhouses will definitely be more serious!
  13. vglazunov
    vglazunov 8 February 2016 11: 43 New
    -2
    Birdhouses are good, especially if the starling flies back to the TOU launch coordinators.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 13: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: vglazunov
      Birdhouses are good, especially if the starling flies back to the TOU launch coordinators.

      Colleague, Valery, excuse me, but how is it? belay
      This system, according to the declared characteristics, is "overwhelming", but certainly not "striking".
      Something like that, colleague. : hi
      PS The minus is not mine, colleague, I do not suffer from this. Just wondering. what inspired you to this comment.
      1. vglazunov
        vglazunov 8 February 2016 16: 48 New
        0
        A colleague, a conditionally blinded rocket will fly by and on ... Why not at the launch site? There is such a possibility :)
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 8 February 2016 18: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: vglazunov
          A colleague, a conditionally blinded rocket will fly by and on ... Why not at the launch site? There is such a possibility :)

          How everything is running ...
          1. vglazunov
            vglazunov 9 February 2016 11: 23 New
            +1
            Rumata, if Israel heals and sends a part of ISIS to Syria, violating borders and sneaking airstrikes on the peaceful cities of Syria. Is there little land or blood for you?

            As for the trajectory of the rocket, this is humor or promising development.
  14. Lator kron
    Lator kron 8 February 2016 11: 44 New
    +1
    It's funny, but nonetheless how much this device of Syrian lives saved. I wonder if ours helped there with the manufacturing instructions?))
  15. ohtsistem
    ohtsistem 8 February 2016 11: 45 New
    +1
    Forcing to review all strategic and tactical schemes for the combat use of armored vehicles, and not only in conflicts of low intensity, such as in Syria or Yemen. If this anti-ballistic missile is massively stamped in Syria, then you can argue about anything, something even more sophisticated, will appear on every Russian army SUV. And this is a completely different calico

    http://warfiles.ru/show-108014-aleksandr-zapolskis-kak-siriyskie-skvorechniki-iz
    menili-mir.html

    Well done no more words !!!!
  16. triglav
    triglav 8 February 2016 11: 45 New
    +1
    If this is not a fake, then the Syrian specialists are great!
  17. Hooks
    Hooks 8 February 2016 11: 47 New
    +1
    So there was a device for a cunning nut. An excellent answer to "the leading designers of the largest defense industry in the world." The main thing is cheap and cheerful. Another would be to teach the "birdhouses" these TOW politely to see off to the house)
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 February 2016 11: 47 New
    +1
    Circumstances will force to find a way out. It seems that without the help of our experts it still could not do. The main thing is that there is benefit.
  19. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 February 2016 11: 54 New
    +6
    I'd like to believe that it works. I remember from the traffic police radars hung on the front glass smile
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 8 February 2016 12: 00 New
    0
    One well done. And it doesn’t matter where the factory is where they are made, in which country. The main thing is that he prevents all these starlings from Turkey and America from flying.
  21. Mera joota
    Mera joota 8 February 2016 12: 04 New
    0
    It is certainly good, but I wonder how this system detects the launch of ATGM. Or is it kept on all the time?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 February 2016 12: 57 New
      +1
      Judging by Lopatov’s explanation, they keep him on.
      constantly in the war zone. Birdhouse is very simple -
      there is no electronics in it. Just a few bright
      lights around the perimeter of the birdhouse, not allowing the operator ATGM
      make accurate missile guidance at the last moment.
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 8 February 2016 21: 07 New
        +4
        No, not really. Ideally, the "TOW" operator simply holds the target in the crosshairs and the missile is guided by the complex coordinator. As the coordinator approaches, he either loses the signal from the rocket (cannot recognize where he is) or re-captures the signal from the "birdhouse". Further, false signals begin to be given to the rocket.
        Considering that the region, thanks to the efforts of the mattress makers, is oversaturated with "TOW", it became clear that the "Middle East Democrats" will "TOW" in all the neighborhoods and "TOW" from under each bush. Your engineers decided not to rely on one "cape" and apparently thought that in such conditions a little plagiarism like "Shtora" would not hurt.
    2. hawk
      hawk 8 February 2016 21: 13 New
      0
      Sure. 24 volts from the side of the network is not a problem ...
  22. Pompeus2005
    Pompeus2005 8 February 2016 12: 05 New
    -5
    They interfere with the sight of the TOU gunner’s sight, which leads the ATGM along the laser beam to the tank. With good accuracy and power, you can burn out the matrix or retina.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 February 2016 12: 14 New
      +4
      This is not a laser setup to burn the matrix.
      1. Pompeus2005
        Pompeus2005 8 February 2016 12: 19 New
        +1
        And how can you drown the eye, except for the laser? A sight is a lens system and therefore any light will be focused on the eye that is looking through the eyepiece, and the more powerful the light stream, the greater the risk of damage to the eye. It’s like looking at the sun or attacking the plane from the sun. You will not see anything with your eye. Bright light hides the technique. This is a source of large luminous flux, and if you add a laser to it with the possibility of light in the optics of the enemy. then it will be impossible to aim with the eye.
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 8 February 2016 12: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: Pompeus2005
          And how can you drown the eye, except for the laser?

          Excuse me, colleague, but to a similar question on the Military Review website and a similar answer.
          FINGER! wassat
          Don’t be offended, but if you think it is possible to make such comments:
          They interfere with the sight of the TOU gunner’s sight, which leads the ATGM along the laser beam to the tank. With good accuracy and power, you can burn out the matrix or retina.
          , then get ready for a similar answer.
          I have the honor. hi
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 8 February 2016 12: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Pompeus2005
      They interfere with the sight of the TOU gunner’s sight, which leads the ATGM along the laser beam to the tank.

      What is the laser beam? PTUR TOU has wire guidance.
      Syrian KOEP clogging the receiver on the launcher, tracking along the tracer in the aft part of the ATGM its current position. And, not knowing where the ATGM, it is impossible to adjust its flight.
  23. nivander
    nivander 8 February 2016 12: 07 New
    +1
    at the beginning of the Second World War, on the IL-2 aircraft, front-line craftsmen mounted a turret called FT-1 (Front Requires !!!)
  24. duchy
    duchy 8 February 2016 12: 08 New
    +3
    laughing +++ Well done, and no matter how and by whom, but it's done. Bravo!! fellow For victory drinks .
  25. Petrov K.
    Petrov K. 8 February 2016 12: 08 New
    +1
    Glory to the Russian designers! )))
  26. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 8 February 2016 12: 08 New
    +1
    Russian technology. Cheap and cheerful.
  27. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 8 February 2016 12: 18 New
    0
    Here it is - the confrontation between sword and shield in action. If the Syrians really managed to create a protection device against TOU-2 and analogs, then respect and respect them. We are waiting for video from the scene. If the "birdhouse" is used en masse, then soon a confirmation video should appear.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 8 February 2016 12: 34 New
      +2
      Some unknown device such as this appeared on Syrian Shilka.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 February 2016 16: 06 New
        +5
        Rather, it is a television sight with a laser rangefinder.
  28. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 February 2016 12: 28 New
    +2
    The system blinds the operator, and very much. It is turned on either manually or by a sensor signal. But Tou's laser is not aiming, and laser sensors are not suitable. Since the "booth" is all-aspect, that is, the assumption that all automation in this booth is reduced to zero. But the brightness of the light source is very high. The modulator is still there.
    The average power is not large, it can be assumed that they use LED light sources. In ancient times, arc lamps were used on our system for these purposes, and the power was kilowatt.
    1. Genry
      Genry 8 February 2016 13: 55 New
      +1
      IMHO. On each facet there are 6 sensors for lateral emissions of the rocket engine.
  29. Pompeus2005
    Pompeus2005 8 February 2016 12: 37 New
    +2
    BGM-71 TOW specifications
    Principle of action: Launched from a pipe; optically induced; wire driven
    Overall length: 2210 mm
    Cartridge diameter: mm 127 (mm 152 -TOW-2)
    Cartridge length: 1170 mm (mm 1450 -TOW-2)
    Wingspan: 450 mm
    Charging system: single cartridge, reusable launcher
    Rate of Shooting: 2 Rocket / Min

    Firing range: 3000-4500 m (depending on model)
    Armored penetration: 600-1000 mm (depending on model)
    Speed ​​(all models): 300 m / s

    The weight
    BGM-71A / B TOW / TOW- total 18,9 kg; 3,9 warhead kg
    BGM-71C ITOW- general 19,1 kg; 3,9 warhead kg
    BGM-71D TOW 2- total 21,5 kg; 5,9 warhead kg
    BGM-71E TOW 2A- total 21,6 kg; 5,9 warhead kg
    Wireless TOW 2A- kg total 28,9
    BGM-71F TOW 2B- total 22,6 kg; 6,1 warhead kg
    Anti Hopper TOW 2- 28,9 kg


    The main disadvantages of the second-generation ATGMs are as follows:

    - susceptibility to natural (dust, smoke from bursting shells) and interference organized by the enemy, this is especially true for ATGMs using laser illumination of the target;

    - the operator must continuously monitor the target during the entire flight of the rocket;

    - relatively low missile flight speed (200-300 m / s), long flight time, low rate of fire (3-4 rds / min);
  30. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 8 February 2016 12: 38 New
    +1
    Well done Syrian specialists, as they say, a goal for inventions of cunning
  31. Pompeus2005
    Pompeus2005 8 February 2016 12: 42 New
    +3
    If the laser - then there is a photodetector on the rocket, it is looking for a laser point.
    Then you need to set the fog - the laser mark is lost. guidance is useless (in theory)
    Or you can make a fake laser dot nearby for something else.

    As I understand it, those thousands of tou that are now - they are wired.
    When they fly, a light shines behind them. For the operator - the system understands where the light of the flying TOU is - and adjusts so that the light is in the sight.

    If you turn on the searchlight, the operator’s console will think that the light of the rocket (actually the searchlight of the tank) is exactly in sight.
    And will not adjust.

    But in fact, the rocket has already deviated (it’s sausage-like) and it flies unknown to where.

    Everything will work.
    The main thing is that the remote control thinks that a searchlight is the corrective light on the tou.

    Perhaps (this is elementary) Americans will be able to come up with new tou that will take this into account.
    But development + mass production will take years.
    By then it will be too late.
  32. Engineer
    Engineer 8 February 2016 12: 42 New
    0
    xenon tracer PTUR TOU-2

    Hand face
    Needle for invention is cunning.

    Goal in artisanal conditions will not do. From where the ears grow and so it is clear.
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    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 8 February 2016 13: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: Engineer
      Hand face

      What is wrong here? Indeed, at the TOU there are two radiation sources, xenon and IR, located in the stern of the rocket. Serve to provide the coordinator of the missile position control system.
  33. aviator1913
    aviator1913 8 February 2016 13: 27 New
    +1
    Interesting idea. Well done that brought to life. With these low-cost enhancements, if everything is working properly, the 2 generation ATGMs have been negated.

    Maybe in such a way, soon the 3 ATGMs like Javelins and Cornets will be able to suppress.

    The eternal confrontation of the sword and shield continues.
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 8 February 2016 20: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: aviator1913
      Maybe in such a way, soon the 3 ATGMs like Javelins and Cornets will be able to suppress.

      "Javelin" and "Cornet" are complexes that are seriously different from each other, and the approach to each is somewhat different.
      For example "Javelin" will be able to tarnish its reputation with technologies from the 80s.
  34. bad
    bad 8 February 2016 13: 35 New
    0
    IMHO, albeit clumsy and ugly, most importantly to work .. hi
  35. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 8 February 2016 13: 41 New
    0
    Is it possible to create protection against all weapons? Interest Ask. If so, then the fighter’s physical strength will soon be appreciated again.
  36. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 8 February 2016 13: 45 New
    +2
    Today in 1: 00 heard from the window the distant roar of a column of military equipment. A roar was heard for approximately 40 minutes. And for sure, there is confirmation on the local portal: http://www.e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-437545.html
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 February 2016 16: 08 New
      0
      Today, sudden exercises in South Administrative Okrug have begun.
  37. Ngauro
    Ngauro 8 February 2016 14: 05 New
    0
    He doesn’t jam anything. This device simply REPORTS radiation and shows the direction from where the rocket will fly. And this is not enough.
  38. Horn
    Horn 8 February 2016 14: 29 New
    0
    Suddenly: cunning ... sensed the approach of a certain organ with a screw ...
  39. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 February 2016 15: 55 New
    0
    Well, so far, then an improved birdhouse will appear.
    It’s clear that the filling itself was not made in Syria,
    Well, this is not an attack weapon,
    although what is there after Solntsepekov say ...
    It is possible that there is a parsing from Russia to Syria, and only there they collect it.
  40. complete zero
    complete zero 8 February 2016 16: 26 New
    0
    Bravo Syrians, recalled the option with lattice mounted armor (currently used) based on .. nets from beds that our soldiers welded onto the armor of tanks (in Berlin), minimizing losses from cumulative charges
  41. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 February 2016 16: 31 New
    0
    In the Second World War, fighters attacked by the sun. The headlights blinded everyone at night. That's the whole principle. We made the "sun" over the target.
  42. Hammer
    Hammer 8 February 2016 17: 44 New
    +3
    I hoped "The Professor" - the local TOU specialist would rip the veil from the totalitarian bloody damned propaganda. But you can't see him.

    I still did not understand how the birdhouse would interfere with the TOU. The TOU is controlled by wire, not by the tracer, and the first TOU do not have a laser range finder. Visual guidance, that is, the position of the rocket, in my unprofessional opinion, depends on the mechanical position of the crosshair on the complex with the operator. What will the birdhouse do? Turn on the flashlights? Day does not help. An expert look is required, and an article for this case. Yabprochel.
    1. Makk
      Makk 8 February 2016 18: 15 New
      0
      Above in the comments, about control and guidance, everything is popularly painted. How the "birdhouse" works is only speculation. But if...
      I didn’t understand ...
      Military unit 88612, go there.
  43. CRASH
    CRASH 8 February 2016 20: 04 New
    0
    It’s hard to believe that in Syria they have graduated, but in brotherly help, or by camels from Iran, this is believed.
  44. Seal
    Seal 8 February 2016 21: 12 New
    0
    “We must pay tribute to the Syrian experts
    Or third-year Baumanki :)))
  45. Olegmog
    Olegmog 8 February 2016 21: 14 New
    +1
    How a birdhouse works is really incomprehensible!
    But if they put him wherever he gets, then he
    effective. I agree with the opinion above that this
    Early warning of missile guidance
    by the principle of DPS radar.
  46. Arandir
    Arandir 8 February 2016 22: 18 New
    0
    "Give us javelins and we will defeat the armada of the Mongol-boys," shouted the infamous descendants of the ancient ukrov. The key word here is give. You need your little head to think. Then everything will be of its own. And a nut with a cunning thread, and a bolt on this cunning nut. And Russian engineers again showed the superiority of both Russian weapons and Russian engineering genius. So far only in Syria. While...
    1. El_Alma_Herida
      El_Alma_Herida 8 February 2016 23: 44 New
      0
      I am sure that the Javelins and Tou have ukropatriotov. It was not for nothing that they were trained in the Western women by the valiant US Army men.
  47. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 9 February 2016 00: 25 New
    0
    Well done Syrian kulibin.
  48. alauda1038
    alauda1038 9 February 2016 03: 37 New
    +1
    It seems to me that our little idea threw
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  50. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 February 2016 07: 33 New
    0
    Or maybe someone told them how to do it cheaply and angrily. In any case, the reaction deserves respect.