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The Dutch Foreign Ministry does not rule out revising the government’s position on the EU-Ukraine association

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The Dutch government will reconsider its position regarding the association of the EU and Ukraine, if the majority of citizens in the upcoming referendum will be against this treaty, reports RIA News Statement by the Foreign Minister of the Kingdom of Bert Kunders.




“The upcoming referendum is not binding, but the majority of the Dutch parties have already confirmed that they will respect the opinion of those who voted,” comments the situation to Reuters.

According to the agency, “55% of citizens are going to vote“ against ”, fearing the competition and the influx of migrants from Ukraine, besides, many politicians are confident that if the agreement is signed, the European Union may be in even greater crisis, and relations between Moscow and Amsterdam will worsen significantly ".

In an interview with journalists, Kunders said that he personally would vote “for”, but did not make predictions about the outcome of the referendum. At the same time, he added that "the treaty will contribute to stability in Ukraine."

The diplomat also noted that in itself the signing of an association agreement "will not be Ukraine’s first step towards EU membership."

According to Reuters, “the agreement with Ukraine is only one of the problems of the bloc from 28 countries, which are much more concerned with the unprecedented migration crisis, sluggish economic growth, the British referendum on secession, and the struggle with Russia for regional influence.”

A referendum in the Netherlands is scheduled for April 6, citizens will be asked to answer the following question: "Are you for or against ratification of the Association Agreement of the European Union and Ukraine?".

The Netherlands is currently the only EU country that has not yet ratified the association agreement between the European Union and Ukraine.
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  1. sir_obs
    sir_obs 7 February 2016 12: 45
    19
    If everything will be honest, they will not manipulate anything, then the Dutch will speak out against the association. More precisely, the Dutch will definitely speak out against the association, but how the results will be presented is a question.
    1. Finches
      Finches 7 February 2016 12: 47
      38
      As they say in Washington, they will act ... They will respect my promises, the opinion of their people is not a decree for you! Independent men in skirts and high heels ... laughing
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 7 February 2016 12: 49
        13
        It doesn't matter how they vote, it's important how they count. This golden rule has not yet been canceled. There are also courts bought by the Americans on the vine. In the election for President Bush II, the American judicial system has shown all its "objectivity."
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 7 February 2016 13: 00
          11
          Quote: oleg-gr
          No matter how they vote, it is important how they count.

          And it will be the same as in the referendum of Scotland! Counting votes turned right in the right direction!
      2. cniza
        cniza 7 February 2016 12: 52
        +9
        Here there are some but ... The USA will push, but they have their own choices ... The Netherlands knows something (the truth) about the downed plane and the role of Ukraine, etc. so we will see.
      3. sever.56
        sever.56 7 February 2016 12: 57
        +6
        New hit of "Svidomo":
        - "GOOD BYE HOLLAND, OOOO ...
        - WHERE WAS NEVER "... !!! wassat
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 7 February 2016 19: 05
          +2
          New hit of "Svidomo":
          - "GOOD BYE HOLLAND, OOOO ...
          - WHERE WAS NEVER "... !!


          Yes, complete. They are called the local nation of shoplifters.
      4. Sid.74
        Sid.74 7 February 2016 13: 04
        +8
        Quote: Finches
        As they say in Washington, so you will act ...

        It's not all that simple ... Americans march Ukraine already funeral ... what
        1. avt
          avt 7 February 2016 13: 45
          15
          Quote: Sid.74
          It's not all that simple ... Americans march Ukraine already funeral ...

          If in the next couple of three months they don’t give the promised IMF billion tranches promised in 2015, then yes. They will throw themselves at self-survival, which is equivalent to dividing the territory into uluses controlled by local gangs, which will already tear pieces from each other from what remains. Fragmentation of the Ruins will already be obvious to everyone, even the banderlog itself. In short - they’re going on children and in general Svidomo Banderlog again howl that Ukraine has never lived as badly as under the control of .... Putin! wassat
          1. Alibekulu
            Alibekulu 7 February 2016 14: 37
            -21 qualifying.
            Quote: avt
            Fragmentation of the Ruins will be obvious to everyone, even by the banderlog
            Fragmentation of the Ruins did not occur even in 14, with the power vacuum in Ukraine, now even more so ..
            And the example of "Donetsk basements" and "people's power" of Donetsk organized crime groups is sobering better than any propaganda and most of all contributes to the unity of Ukraine ..
            Better is not worse, as grit hi
            1. avt
              avt 7 February 2016 15: 09
              13
              Quote: Alibekulu
              Fragmentation of the Ruins did not occur even in 14, with the power vacuum in Ukraine, now even more so ..

              laughing De facto, with the elections and the henchmen of the local oligarchs who won them, and in the west it generally coincided with ethnicity in Transcarpathia, there was fragmentation. Kiev has ALREADY lost the first round and judging by the throw-in from the Kalomoisky protectorate - Kernes land from Kharkov for Slobozhanshchina, and not the first run, however, which will give a profit to the local budget of UAH 3 billion due to NOT DISTRIBUTION TO KIEV. The second round is not far off for the Carpathians, but actually Biden told them about this. ...
              Quote: Alibekulu
              And the example of "Donetsk basements" and "people's power" of Donetsk organized crime groups is sobering better than any propaganda and most of all contributes to the unity of Ukraine ..

              Resident of Ukraine, temporarily in immigration in Kazakhstan wassat and in real life can you compare the situation on both sides of the barricades with the self-bombardment of militants from the organized crime group "themselves? laughing You do not clearly see the difference between the Donetsk basements "and the SBU basements", I don’t romanticize, like some, the situation in the LDNR, but you don’t see the difference .... you have to try very hard, or listen to Karasev, Kovtun and Yakhno without interruption with the company of ukrosvidomitov. Well, at least look at the old videos of the exchange of prisoners who are changing whom and how, at least like a man in winter with gloves on his feet went from “united Ukraine” united to the “organized crime group” of Donetsk. Personal fear of Russia is understandable, but not to the same degree to distinguish reality from glitches. laughing
              1. Alibekulu
                Alibekulu 7 February 2016 16: 20
                -13 qualifying.
                Quote: avt
                Kiev ALREADY lost the first round and judging by the injection from the protectorate of Kalomoysky
                Come on lol Kolomoisky with enough call to the US ambassador to deliver to the edge ..
                Quote: avt
                Do not clearly see the difference between
                Well, in Ukraine, though small, but they give pensions ..
                Quote: avt
                The personal fear of Russia is clear
                Who the hell to be afraid, you have "KrymNash" for a long time .. And all the "good" is still ahead .. repeat
                Quote: avt
                walked on his feet from the United Ukraine "united to the" OPG "Donetsk
                Here about rossiyansky TV show that from the "people's" republics all in Ukraine stick for food and social services. And the indignation that they missed it badly, although what they climb, because they wanted to be independent from the junta request
                1. avt
                  avt 7 February 2016 17: 10
                  12
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  Kolomoisky with enough call to the US ambassador to deliver to the edge ..

                  They set it up only when he decided to get on the level with Petsya in KIEV, and in his patrimony he wants to do what he wants - look for and consolidate the current position of Filatov.
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  Well, in Ukraine, though small, but they give pensions ..

                  And in LDNR they give as much as possible - the Lord of the Sith does household reviews, just do not forget to look at the map and estimate the possibilities, while limited and not achievable as in the Crimea.
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  Are you afraid of hell

                  So I say, do not be afraid.
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  you have "CrimeaNash"

                  “And we have gas in our apartments, And you?” In the sense of Ukraine? A cat pissing into the wood - is that two?
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  ... And all the "good" is still ahead ..

                  The hopes of the young men feed, but something tells me that if something, God forbid, goes wrong in Russia, then Kazakhstan and Central Asia will not seem like a whole,
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  Here about rossiyansky TV show that from the "people's" republics all in Ukraine stick for food and social services.

                  They don’t spin, but drive. And why, in fact, to the same pensioners not to receive pensions from the state of Ukraine and not to squeeze money on food products that they honestly worked for this state and paid in the form of taxes ??? So, for reference, even when they bombed Chechnya under the EBN, the Russian government, unlike the current Ukraine, PAYED pensions to Chechen pensioners Krali and didn’t get it all - it’s for sure a fact, but PAYED as citizens of the Russian Federation. And what? I would like a full-fledged blockade, including at the border, so that it would be complete, so that they die of hunger? Well, do not wait.
                2. V.ic
                  V.ic 7 February 2016 18: 32
                  +6
                  Quote: Alibekulu
                  Here about rossiyansky TV show that from the "people's" republics all in Ukraine stick for food and social services. And the indignation that they missed it badly, although what they climb, because they wanted to be independent from the junta

                  Nobody from the Russians rushes to the independent Kazakstan for food and social services? And indignation that "poorly missed" for some reason is not observed.
                3. Karlovar
                  Karlovar 7 February 2016 22: 28
                  +8
                  Pensions are not alms, not handouts, pension is the OWNERSHIP of pensioners, honestly earned with a hump! And not one dog has the right to deprive a pensioner of his property! By the way, this is 100% consistent with all democratic standards (inviolability of private property). Yes, the state for which the pensioner has worked all his life is obliged to pay pensions ...
                  1. Alibekulu
                    Alibekulu 8 February 2016 15: 39
                    +1
                    Quote: avt
                    And in LDNR give whenever possible
                    Yak blockade Leningrad?
                    Quote: avt
                    what else something, God forbid, will go wrong in Russia, then in Kazakhstan and Central Asia as a whole will not find it enough
                    And what will become of her Mother? laughing?!
                    Still not such ordinary colonels survived, and here will not die ..
                    Quote: avt
                    And why, in fact, the same pensioners should not receive pensions from the state of Ukraine
                    So w mother independent there request For example, pensioners in Kazakhstan do not receive pensions from the state of Russia as a legally recognized successor to the USSR. After all, the majority of pensioners in Kazakhstan honestly worked for this state and paid it in the form of taxes, and why then the Russian Federation does not pay Kazakhstan pensioners in the same way ???
                    Somehow it's not kosher to take a pension from Bloody Petit amat the bloodthirsty juntaangry Doesn't the blood of Donetsk babies surrender to righteous anger in the chest? No. ?!
                    Quote: avt
                    I want a full blockade
                    What is the "blockade"? The border with Russia is open - from there it is well blown by the "north wind" laughing
                    Quote: avt
                    to starve to death? Well, do not wait
                    And I don’t wait .. And they don’t even want them to die in Cueva. And just the opposite, to feed there nourishing at the expense of the Russian budget ..
                    Quote: Karlovar
                    it is on 100% meets all democratic norms (inviolability of private property)
                    What about the Ukrainian property in Crimea .. recourse?! Since I started talking about immunity?
            2. vovanpain
              vovanpain 7 February 2016 18: 15
              13
              Quote: Alibekulu
              Fragmentation Ruins did not occur even in '14 under the vacuum of power in Ukraine

              And the fragmentation of Russia did not occur, not in 1991, not in 1999, no matter how much you would like to.
              Quote: Alibekulu
              And an example of "Donetsk basements" and "people's power" of Donetsk organized crime groups

              You just sat in the "Donetsk basements" and greeted Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky by the hand, mister sovramshi.
              Quote: Alibekulu
              Well, in Ukraine, though small, but they give pensions ..

              Yes, and in Donetsk and Lugansk, although not big. But give pensions.
              Quote: Alibekulu
              Who the hell to be afraid, you have "KrymNash" for a long time .. And all the "good" ischo ahead.

              Absolutely tak.Krym ours, And you and ukraine all "good" ischo ahead.
              Quote: Alibekulu
              Here about rossiyansky TV show that from the "people's" republics all in Ukraine stick for food and social services.

              Yes, and in Rostov with the surroundings, too, drop in. Do not la la dear, correctly told you colleague avt
              Quote: avt
              The personal fear of Russia is clear, but not to the same extent as to distinguish reality from glitches.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 7 February 2016 18: 49
          +2
          Quote: Sid.74
          amerikosy campaign Ukraine already funeral.


          As a state, it’s possible, but as a springboard for its own and NATO forces, in no case.
          Teeth will hold. stop
          1. akims
            akims 8 February 2016 00: 07
            0
            Now, with the money of the US State Department, preparations are starting to digitize large cities in Ukraine within the framework of the Second Cities program. That is, all more or less large, except for the capital. Probably Kiev is either already digitized, or striped penguins have already buried it. Why does the State Department need detailed maps of Ukrainian cities - the conclusions are yours.
      5. Blondy
        Blondy 7 February 2016 13: 22
        +7
        One would think that someone in Europe and even in the USA is eager to implement this association, as it is now fashionable to express. They need this Ukraine hurt, all the more, it turned over. The main goal, on which the main blow was inflicted, is Russia.
        Let's remember - before the Kiev coup, during the Winter Olympics, despite all the wishes, they could not think of anything but oppression of the unfortunate LGBT people. But then, screaming about our monstrosity (you are huge - we are great), they hung up the shot down plane and aggression in the Donbass and Crimea (it never even occurs to them that people there just wanted to live a normal life and did not want to be stabbed or burned like in Odessa) , and with great pleasure they betrayed us their "righteous anger" in the form of sanctions.
        But the Ukrainian Moor did his job, and well, fuck him.
        1. captain
          captain 7 February 2016 14: 00
          21
          Citizens commenting, I am surprised by your desire for the citizens of the Netherlands to vote against. Yes, let them vote "FOR". This does not give any benefits to Ukraine in comparison with Algeria. 17 countries have signed, among them is Moldova, then what? Heavenly manna will not fall on Ukraine. Adding a list of associated countries with the EU, Albania - Stabilization and Association Agreement (2009)
          Algeria - Association Agreement (2005)
          Andorra - European Customs Union (1991)
          Bosnia and Herzegovina - Stabilization and Association Agreement (2015)
          Georgia - association agreement (signed in 2014, pending ratification and entry into force)
          Egypt - Association Agreement (2004)
          Israel - Association Agreement (2000)
          Jordan - Association Agreement (2002)
          Iceland - EEA (1994)
          Canada - Association Agreement (2013)
          Republic of Kosovo - stabilization and association agreement (signed in 2015, pending ratification and entry into force)
          Lebanon - Association Agreement (2006)
          Liechtenstein - EEA (1994)
          Republic of Macedonia - Stabilization and Association Agreement (2001)
          Morocco Association Agreement (2000)
          Moldova - association agreement (signed in 2014, pending ratification and entry into force)
          Mexico - Association Agreement (2000)
          Norway - EEA (1994)
          Palestinian Authority - Interim Association Agreement (1997)
          San Marino - European Customs Union (2002)
          Serbia - Stabilization and Association Agreement (2011)
          Tunisia - Association Agreement (1998)
          Turkey - EU-Turkey Customs Union Agreement (1996)
          Ukraine - Association Agreement (signed in 2014 year, pending ratification, provisional application from 1 January 2016 year [1])
          Faroe Islands - as an autonomous entity of Denmark (1997)
          Montenegro - Stabilization and Association Agreement (2010)
          Chile - Association Agreement (2003)
          Switzerland - Free Trade Agreement (1973)
          South Korea - Free Trade Agreement (2011)
          South Africa - Association Agreement (2000), let them sign an agreement even with China and India, what’s wrong for Ukrainians? Who and what will they buy? The flag is in their hands. Please, on the contrary, sign up as soon as possible.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 7 February 2016 22: 46
            +3
            The population of Ukraine has one concern — a visa-free regime, almost the entire country sits on suitcases (such a kind of patriotism is to be removed from the homeland soon) ... But the joke is that the association does not imply a visa-free regime. But people do not want to admit this, though, maybe they understand that they put on pink glasses and firmly believe in the abolition of visas (like pagans to their gods)), classically wishful thinking, but such behavior didn’t lead anyone to good .... In fact, today visa issuance has been reduced once a minimum of 5-7, maybe 10, that is, the result is 180 degrees opposite, and as a result, you know who is to blame.
          2. Sagittarius YaNAO
            Sagittarius YaNAO 8 February 2016 05: 07
            0
            According to the agency, “55% of citizens are going to vote against, fearing competition and an influx of migrants from Ukraine

            Correctly fear.

            Yatsenyuk: Ukraine can become the leader of Europe thanks to intelligence

            - I think that the new Ukraine, like the new world, is the fourth industrial revolution. This is “talent” from the word talent. This is what can make the agricultural sector stronger; it is what will help the government to carry out reforms, including in the health system. Talent is something that will allow overcoming diseases, talent is that that will guarantee security for people, renew Ukraine, create a new political class, the head of the Cabinet said.

            He added that Ukraine has every chance of becoming the leader of Europe thanks to intelligence. Yatsenyuk noted that ten years ago, oil and gas were considered potential, but now we need to pay attention to the “strong talent and mind” of people.
      6. zanoza
        zanoza 7 February 2016 13: 33
        +3
        The results of the referendum are "optional" for implementation, incl. the ruling elite will decide. The EU and the US will push through the necessary decision of the Dutch parliament and it will be "like all" EU countries.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 February 2016 12: 49
      +3
      Quote: sir_obs
      but how the results will be presented is a question.

      This is not a question, this is the answer. wink
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 7 February 2016 13: 02
        13
        Well, what's the question, then?
    3. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 7 February 2016 12: 58
      +4
      Quote: sir_obs
      If All will be honestly, do not rig anything, then the Dutch

      The Golanians have already muddied the Anglo-Saxons in the investigation of the downed Boeing.
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 7 February 2016 23: 02
        +2
        The Dutch to the fullest lie, to falsify the results of the investigation against the DPR or the Russian Federation was not enough! And, I suppose, there were very, very good reasons for that .... I mean that at the present stage of space technology development, the entire globe, and especially problem areas, are viewed by satellites (American, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Indian , german, f
        French and further down the list) .... As well as recordings of radio interception of negotiations between the dispatcher and the board, 100 pounds exist and not in one copy ...
    4. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 7 February 2016 13: 00
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      If everything will be honest, they will not manipulate anything, then the Dutch will speak out against the association. More precisely, the Dutch will definitely speak out against the association, but how the results will be presented is a question.

      They have already smoked all their brains ... what to take from them? And put the results on their government ... The main thing is that the FSP will say ... request
    5. RUSS
      RUSS 7 February 2016 13: 08
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      If everything will be honest, they will not manipulate anything, then the Dutch will speak out against the association. More precisely, the Dutch will definitely speak out against the association, but how the results will be presented is a question.

      The results will show real ones, but they are only advisory in nature, and there will also be a call from Washington and everything will be decided as it should.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 7 February 2016 13: 15
        +9
        Here you argue that they say they recognize the referendum or not ... so the EU is not the same as two years ago ...
        For example, Austria ...

        And every day there are more and more such voices ... Germans, French ... Greeks, Italians have already felt the beauty of such a big wave of migrants from all over the BV and Africa.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 7 February 2016 17: 46
          +2
          And every day there are more and more such voices ... Germans, French ... Greeks, Italians have already felt the beauty of such a big wave of migrants from all over BV and Africa. ,,
          Well, no, they promised to get married, so let them take it, I only can. Sobering up and coming.
        2. beck
          beck 7 February 2016 19: 32
          +3
          however ... there were still men in the west with eggs who are not afraid to tell the truth
    6. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 7 February 2016 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      If everything will be fair, (...)

      If everything was according to UMU, then it was necessary to hold a referendum in Ukraine in 2012-2013! You look, maybe there was no Gameidan. But Yanukovych / Azarov didn’t want to hear about it - by doing so they signed a verdict on themselves.
    7. The black
      The black 7 February 2016 13: 30
      +2
      Honestly, it won’t ... as Mr. Chocolate dad from America says - it will be so ... I don’t believe Westerners ....
    8. tol100v
      tol100v 7 February 2016 13: 36
      +1
      Quote: sir_obs
      More precisely, the Dutch will definitely speak out against the association,

      The Dutch do not need competitors for the use of herbs and other drug products! After all, the Ukrainians have long overtaken them in this!
    9. max702
      max702 7 February 2016 13: 46
      +6
      All these choices. Voting, referenda - a goofy divorce suckers! All this bootleg is invented for one, namely withdrawing liability from the authorities! Type people voted so! on this all the demand from him! Sami voted so! Well, well, there are a lot of ways to bring voters to the right decision (media, Internet, etc.), and if that doesn’t work then you can twist the numbers in the right direction .. Who thinks that? And those who organize all this! When you sit down to play cards with cheaters for some reason you are not surprised at the result .. Elections and other heresy are cheating in a cube!
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 7 February 2016 23: 17
        0
        Even in antiquity, in the Athenian republic, when all citizens (free) came to vote in the city square and voted, throwing white and black stones in the basket, and then these stones were counted before their eyes, they even managed to influence the voting process in different ways manipulated in general !!! Pericles (and his rule is considered the peak of Athenian democracy and power) said, not verbatim, but the essence of democracy is the right of the people to choose the most worthy from the circle of worthy ... That is, the conclusion suggests itself that from the circle of unworthy ( not rich, weak) people do not have the right to choose ... That was such a standard democracy ...
    10. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 7 February 2016 13: 50
      +2
      Yeah .. They are probably afraid that these chipmunks "decent coffee shops" will lower them to the level of ordinary drug dens ..
    11. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 7 February 2016 17: 22
      +3
      It was not necessary to shoot down a Boeing, do not swarm a hole for another, otherwise you yourself into it ...
      Well, nothing, Merkel will put pressure on Holland, and they will surrender. USA
      also not against association.
    12. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 7 February 2016 17: 23
      +1
      EU citizens understand that they cannot economically sustain another beggar country.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 7 February 2016 12: 45
    +6
    "The Dutch government will reconsider its position on the EU-Ukraine association if the majority of citizens oppose this treaty in the upcoming referendum."

    They will reconsider if the chief gives the command, and not some citizens. request
    1. Wolverine
      Wolverine 7 February 2016 13: 40
      +1
      I can object, it was a year ago, and now internal upheavals are making the authorities think, the time has come to set priorities ...
  3. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 7 February 2016 12: 46
    +9
    Only the Dutch lived for three hours without drugs, and immediately the brain began to think normally, otherwise they would be clogged up and all sorts of rubbish where they do not need to be shoved, a member in the ass, then ukroinu in the EU ...
  4. Sid.74
    Sid.74 7 February 2016 12: 46
    13
    Zrada splendid ... some kind of "changeable" day today. winked


    Look, professional Tatars have everything exploding ... lol


    And they are all so happy about it ..? laughing
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 7 February 2016 13: 17
      +7
      And all of them are so happy ..? laughing

      Eugene! hi
      Gavrilyuk felt insulted, and they did not give the money, and they determined him a fool! laughing
    2. Coconut Tima
      Coconut Tima 7 February 2016 13: 22
      +5
      Quote: Sid.74
      Look, professional Tatars have everything exploding ...

      According to activists, not a grenade exploded in the office of the Mejlis, but inflatable boats prepared for the sea blockade of Crimea!
  5. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 7 February 2016 12: 47
    32
    Quote: Sid.74
    Zrada splendid ... some kind of "changeable" day today.
  6. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 7 February 2016 12: 50
    +4
    It would be more beneficial for Ukraine if Dutch citizens opposed the association of Ukraine with the EU in a referendum.
    The sooner the epiphany comes that they will not be "tse Europe", and the Russian market is lost for them and Ukraine has already been left with a broken trough, the more chances for Ukrainian citizens to survive, although not all.
  7. V.ic
    V.ic 7 February 2016 12: 51
    +1
    I have no doubt that the "hol / lantsy" will vote for the "hoh / lantsy".
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 February 2016 12: 52
    +3
    Not Holland, but some kind of perdose ... sad And also orange ...
    1. izya top
      izya top 7 February 2016 13: 03
      +9
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Not Holland, but some kind of perdose ... sad And also orange ...

      this is because holland has a tricolor.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 7 February 2016 18: 08
        -1
        Quote: izya top
        this is because holland has a tricolor.

        So we have the Russian ensign also called / thanks to Elson and his sponsors /!
  9. Oleneboy_
    Oleneboy_ 7 February 2016 12: 55
    +4
    The Dutch remember the Boeing shot down over the territory UkraineThey will not be on the side of Ukraine. For such a small country this is a strong tragedy.
  10. Moonsund
    Moonsund 7 February 2016 12: 59
    0
    in general, do not care, in the Netherlands everything is decided through w ...
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 7 February 2016 17: 42
      0
      I have not read this book, but I think ... wassat
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 February 2016 12: 59
    +1
    As a result, they will make a decision that is necessary for EU officials, as if the Dutch would not mind.
    . struggle with Russia for regional influence».

    28 EU countries, instead of solving their problems, are also fighting for regional influence? And among themselves or what?
  12. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 7 February 2016 13: 00
    +1
    With whom to argue for beer, what will vote, as Americans say? laughing
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 7 February 2016 13: 07
      24
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      With whom to argue for beer, what will vote, as Americans say? laughing

      With Israel!)))))) But in fact it’s kind of ...
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      2. izya top
        izya top 7 February 2016 13: 17
        14
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        With Israel!
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 7 February 2016 13: 21
          +3
          Quote: iza top
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          With Israel!

          Russians are advancing ..... wassat
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 7 February 2016 18: 14
      +1
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      With whom to argue for beer, what will vote, as Americans say?

      This beer was given to you ... With the advent of Elson in the expanses of Russia, beer as a drink ordered to live long. This is a substitute for alcohol / tapericha, but during the USSR there was a lively and beneficial drink because it strained only the bladder, and not the whole organism.
  13. sichevik
    sichevik 7 February 2016 13: 05
    +1
    As the State Department says, they will vote. But the zrada is still on the face. In the process, the Europeans do not really want to let Svidomo. There are enough problems with migrants, and then these schenevmerlyki climb.
  14. shelva
    shelva 7 February 2016 13: 06
    +3
    Before falling apart, the EU can accept anyone in its campaign, even Ukraine. Europe has few migrants from the Middle East and North Africa - will be added by Ukrainians from Ukraine.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 7 February 2016 13: 07
    +1
    Of all nations, only the Dutch can really understand the information field? I won’t believe the stakes are too big in the game. They will crush this Holland, for the first time or something. We have already seen how Scotland came out, how the Basque people gave self-determination. In this case, the main precedent is, and then everything will collapse like a house of cards. If only one country cuts down this signing will be at stake for all further education of the EU. That’s why this referendum has no chance and its decision will mean nothing to the authorities, despite their declaration of respect for the opinion of the population
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 February 2016 13: 13
    +2
    An original way to drain Dill, showing her that, they say, I (Europe) have nothing to do with it, they are such people, zradniki, they do not want to forget the downed Boeing.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 7 February 2016 23: 22
      0
      As one of the possible options, it could even be ...
  17. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 7 February 2016 13: 24
    +2
    They tortured and abandoned Ukraine.
    Again on the track? ..
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 7 February 2016 14: 55
      +1
      Nothing, she’s not used to it .. :)
  18. YohanPalych
    YohanPalych 7 February 2016 13: 34
    17
    But there’s still a chance ...
  19. denni
    denni 7 February 2016 13: 39
    +2
    Let them fear the export of Ukrainian grass)
  20. Hey
    Hey 7 February 2016 13: 39
    +1
    Ours threatened Holland, if they do not vote correctly, then we will stop buying their flowers. And it’s like death for them. Therefore, Holland will vote as it should Russia.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 7 February 2016 18: 15
      0
      Quote: MUD
      we will stop buying their flowers. And it’s like death for them. Therefore, Holland will vote as it should Russia.

      The clonophilia will pay!
  21. vell.65
    vell.65 7 February 2016 13: 48
    +1
    Yes, it is not Europe who decides, but Washington, and they are no longer these geypolitiki.
  22. Artem shlykov
    Artem shlykov 7 February 2016 13: 48
    +2
    So, imperceptibly, under a mess in Ukraine and the Middle East, the United States leads Europe to its logical conclusion, to the completion of its unity, its stability and prosperity. If we look back and carefully look back, we will see direct consequences of the technology of molestation and depersonalization of the population, similar to the one launched by the Americans on our land.
  23. Gunther
    Gunther 7 February 2016 14: 17
    +3
    This "association of the EU and Ukraine" is like that carrot in front of the muzzle of a donkey, and soon it (the carrot) is transformed into another object, but not mentioned in vain on the VO website :-)
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 7 February 2016 15: 52
      +1
      Well, they are in Kiev and not only sacredly go for this self-satisfaction items laughing
  24. Neophyte
    Neophyte 7 February 2016 14: 53
    +2
    The captain (1) is right! No freebies are shining for Ukraine! Just there, zombies live, that is,
    new subspecies of H.sapiens-H.ukropitek!
  25. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 7 February 2016 14: 54
    +1
    "55% of citizens are going to vote against."

    Who cares how they vote, the main thing is how they think. There will be a team from the black gentleman - and only 5% of those who voted against and who the hell will prove something to anyone, at least sweat it later.
  26. Belarus
    Belarus 7 February 2016 15: 51
    +3
    As for me, this whole circus with the Dutch comes down to only one thing: Ukraine apparently does not want to do something that says terrorist No. 1 in the world - the United States.And this fuss with the referendum is simply blackmailing the "leadership" in Kiev.Mall do not do this or that, Holland will vote against the association (filthy word) with EU uSrainy.Banal blackmail and nothing in common, plus everything Holland refused the UN Malaysian Boeing Tribunal - as they say, the pressure is increasing.
  27. Unexpected
    Unexpected 7 February 2016 16: 19
    +3
    Holland got into trouble with the crash investigation. No matter how the West and the United States kicked, ours very quickly and promptly presented the results of their investigation. Now all attempts to blame us are far from straightforward. The Dutch want not to quarrel with us, and not to trample against the US-Europe. Yes, and selfish interest - to return paintings from Ukraine and pocket Scythian gold. Will play in public - will hold a referendum. The people will be pleased. But in the end, the government of the country of tulips will vote on the go-ahead overseas benefactor. Well, imagine for a second how this tiny state can resist all of Europe and the New World. They are shut up, like nonsense. And no sanctions will be needed. I think that you should not count on Dutch independence
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 February 2016 16: 55
    +3
    Well, everyone clearly understands that you can’t buy potatoes and lard for these signatures and agreements?
    That is, in fact, I don’t care what the results of the vote will be,
    if Europe continues to pull out loans to Ukraine.
    Well, okay, they will vote "For", Ukraine will even arrange a holiday about this.
    And then denyuzhkov ... Nem. Europe is forced to contain Ukraine because
    passing through its territory gas transit.
  29. Alex ..
    Alex .. 7 February 2016 17: 26
    10
    Poroshenko died. He enters with a suitcase into the gates of paradise, and Saint Peter says to him: “Have a seat, now let's see where the place is reserved for you.” So ... The main list is not ... The additional one is also missing ... I can’t do anything, now it’s the season, people are dying in batches, not crowding in paradise, go to hell, dear. Nothing to do, Porroshenko descends to hell. Lucifer himself meets him there with open arms: - Hello, hello, we have been waiting for you for a long time! We have here for you a separate room prepared with all amenities. Would you like a glass from the road? They sit, drink, talk for life.
    Then Poroshenko recalls that he forgot his suitcase in Paradise. Lucifer calls two devils: - Have you heard? Blow to Paradise and bring the valued president’s suitcase. Lively, one foot here, the other there! Devils run to Paradise. And there, at St. Peter's, the shift was over, he locked the gates of paradise and went to rest. Little devils back and forth, what to do? Without a suitcase, it is not ordered to return. They climbed to Paradise through the fence. And on guard of Paradise are two archangels and observe this picture. And one says to the other: “You see what is being done!” Only 20 minutes, like Poroshenko in hell, and we already have refugees!
  30. samarin1969
    samarin1969 7 February 2016 17: 40
    +3
    mothers from Ukraine wish "natalok"! ... Assonizers from Europe will push all loving new "genosses" away from Frau Cologne to "Square" ... they will refuse "non-European".
  31. beck
    beck 7 February 2016 19: 37
    +1
    Quote: max702
    Elections and other heresy is cheating in a cube!


    absolutely agree! in 89, while serving in the army somehow got into the election commission at a referendum on the issue of preserving the Union - this has seen enough, enough for the whole life
  32. Olegi1
    Olegi1 7 February 2016 19: 55
    +4
    Quote: oleg-gr
    It doesn't matter how they vote, it's important how they count. This golden rule has not yet been canceled. There are also courts bought by the Americans on the vine. In the election for President Bush II, the American judicial system has shown all its "objectivity."


    By the way, I read somewhere that in the United States 11 times in history, the president who received the fewest votes became. Including Lincoln and Kennedy, I don’t remember everyone.
  33. Altona
    Altona 7 February 2016 20: 45
    +2
    What is there to comment, I do not know. I’ll post a demotivator on Petsyu.
  34. Roman Ivanov
    Roman Ivanov 7 February 2016 22: 15
    +2
    no need to deceive yourself, they will vote for, because all the power of their infolrmation machine works for it, and progress is evident
  35. konvalval
    konvalval 7 February 2016 23: 07
    0
    Then they will jump.
  36. atamankko
    atamankko 7 February 2016 23: 30
    +2
    The EU seems to have cramps, and then it’s agony.
  37. Papapg
    Papapg 7 February 2016 23: 56
    +2
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    "55% of citizens are going to vote against."

    Who cares how they vote, the main thing is how they think. There will be a team from the black gentleman - and only 5% of those who voted against and who the hell will prove something to anyone, at least sweat it later.

    55% probably know that - the higher the fence, the better the neighbors!
  38. old pioneer
    old pioneer 8 February 2016 04: 41
    +1
    If, according to the results of the referendum, the Dutch will be FOR the association, then this Netherlands should be read like the Nigerglands ...
  39. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 8 February 2016 06: 13
    0
    Dutch government to reconsider EU-Ukraine association


    Position ... What position could there be? If only "role-playing games" ... in the favorite style of modern geyropa ... "Country" is a parasite (dill), how regrettable it sounds ... He doesn't want to do anything, but eat from the belly and sleep sweetly - the first ones .. What is the association? Who would climb on the scruff of the neck and dangle their legs? That's all the tasks ...
  40. 4ekist
    4ekist 8 February 2016 21: 43
    0
    Mr. Burt Kunders cannot have such an opinion, as Uncle SAM says so. And this is just idle chatter.